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Patriots Unfiltered 7/14: N'Keal Harry Trade Reaction, Mac Jones Leadership · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Little Stranger Things roundtable. Prior to the show, we all
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  Speaker 1: finished up, so we were free to say whatever we
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  Speaker 1: wanted to say. Yeah, yeah, good season, Yeah, great job.
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  Speaker 1: Kate Bush and Metallica all over the radio. It's this
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  Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, Yeah, it was good. I think, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I think we're all mostly I don't know how you
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  Speaker 1: felt about the five. It was good, it was good.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't like I didn't feel like the end was
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  Speaker 1: blown away magical, but I mean it was good. I
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  Speaker 1: had some issues though, I think Almus had some people
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  Speaker 1: some issues. Yeah, I might get up into the A
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  Speaker 1: minus area maybe just I think that episode with Max
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  Speaker 1: and episode four kind of sold it for me that
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  Speaker 1: that was I thought excellent, and maybe it kind of
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  Speaker 1: ran on that steam a little bit. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: get to the end of these shows, it's it's hard
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  Speaker 1: to wrap it up and satisfy everybody, right perfect. You
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  Speaker 1: know you're wondering in how much longer can they go? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: You know, would I know they have another season, but
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  Speaker 1: I kind of hope that's it. Yeah, that's the last one. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think I would have liked it better because I
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  Speaker 1: thought they were that's where they were going. They were
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  Speaker 1: wrapping it up, and I think I was prepared for that,
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  Speaker 1: even though I knew at the time, like I already
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  Speaker 1: knew there was going to be a fifth season, Like
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  Speaker 1: how much can you build up to the next the
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  Speaker 1: next season? Couldn't you have just made the big conflict
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  Speaker 1: with Vecna bang a couple more episodes out if you
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  Speaker 1: need to, But are we gonna do a whole other
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  Speaker 1: season of setting up. Yeah, how Vecna is going to
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  Speaker 1: come back? Sorry for anyone who hasn't seen it yet,
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  Speaker 1: but how much more can the town take it? How
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  Speaker 1: much more? What can I do? Anyway? All Right, so
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  Speaker 1: Patriots nikkil Harry, what happened? Oh yeah, it finally happened.
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  Speaker 1: Finally happened. Yeah, well, we had talked about it on
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  Speaker 1: the show a little bit. I mean, I think we
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  Speaker 1: were right in step with they're either going to release
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  Speaker 1: him or maybe maybe a seventh rounder I think was
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  Speaker 1: and that's what they ended up getting for Chicago, who
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  Speaker 1: has no no real receiving weapons, no idea what they
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  Speaker 1: were doing, kind of for Justin Field. So I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: Bears fans are looking at those uh nikkil Harry highlights
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  Speaker 1: in college, and if I was, if this was Bears unfiltered,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, he was a bust, but he
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  Speaker 1: was a first round pick. He had production in college.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see what we can do with him. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's that would be my mindset. Yeah, I just I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've seen some people with a little bit of revisionist history.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of put my Paul hat on a little
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  Speaker 1: bit when I was reading some people be like you know,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he was really good at the at the
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  Speaker 1: point of the catch point, I'm like, what what were
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  Speaker 1: what were you watching? Like? I saw more like stuff
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  Speaker 1: of him screwing up and saying this was so sad, right,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean I think that was what was
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  Speaker 1: most uh disappointing about it, was that, all right, I
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  Speaker 1: get it, he's not he's not a really fast guy,
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  Speaker 1: but he's big, and you know, maybe he can use
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  Speaker 1: that size to his advantage and win some physical matchups,
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  Speaker 1: but he just never was able to do it consistently.
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  Speaker 1: You know, maybe once or twice, but for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of it he's just getting beat out physical by guys interceptions.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was maybe the first or second year
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  Speaker 1: Paul really remembers maybe one specific there's one I can
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  Speaker 1: picture in my mind of just him getting beat to
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  Speaker 1: the spot and the guy. You know, so those things
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  Speaker 1: that we're supposed to be a strength just never never
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  Speaker 1: really were got behind the eight ball with injuries early
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  Speaker 1: on in camp, and I don't even know how much
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  Speaker 1: that really mattered because ultimately it never really flashed. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for him, it's a clean slate and maybe
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  Speaker 1: you know, st an opportunity there with field may better,
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  Speaker 1: maybe he can do better. And they're here too this year,
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  Speaker 1: aren't they? So Halloween Monday Night, the return of Spooky Harry,
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  Speaker 1: Scary Harry, Scary Harry. Yeah. The only thing that I
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  Speaker 1: would give him is the the injury his rookie year.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he gets put behind the eight ball with
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  Speaker 1: training camp, he missed time, took him. You know. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's part of the problem with young guys here,
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  Speaker 1: like so, you know, he had an injury, he missed
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  Speaker 1: some time, and all of a sudden they have to
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  Speaker 1: put him on, like I R and he misses half
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  Speaker 1: the season, Like I don't think it had to be
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  Speaker 1: And and part of that is on Brady, not that
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  Speaker 1: that's just not that's not just the team that you know,
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  Speaker 1: Brady kind of freezes you out if you're not there
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  Speaker 1: right away from him. And I think it was tough
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  Speaker 1: for him. It was an uphill climb from there. But
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  Speaker 1: obviously if he had the ability in the mental toughness,
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  Speaker 1: he would have overcome that. Yeah. I think Brady's thing
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  Speaker 1: was making the same mistakes over and over again. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like, Okay, you make a mistake,
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  Speaker 1: learned from it, but he was a repeat offender. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think about the play against Kansas City here that
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  Speaker 1: first year that was you know, they incorrectly said he
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  Speaker 1: stepped out of bounds. Not that that would have changed much,
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  Speaker 1: but he just they would have changed Mike. He just
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  Speaker 1: he just couldn't catch a break. It felt like it was, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it was make a good catch and get hurt. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there was always something. It's just he could never quite
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  Speaker 1: you know. I think with some of those players, maybe
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  Speaker 1: like Jacoby Myers last year, where you know, we just
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  Speaker 1: started to stack success. As they say, he'd have a
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  Speaker 1: good day and he'd be back out there the next
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  Speaker 1: day and he'd have another good day with a couple
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  Speaker 1: you know, impressive catches, and you know, Harry just seemed
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  Speaker 1: like it was kind of always something. And then last
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  Speaker 1: year when they brought in all those other guys, he
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  Speaker 1: became kind of the blocking wide receiver, somewhat of an afterthought.
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  Speaker 1: But it's a it's a disappointing end. I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was certainly a huge miss in the draft and and
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  Speaker 1: something that you know, the last few years that has
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  Speaker 1: played a big part I think in their struggles. You know,
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  Speaker 1: had that been a hit at wide receiver. Then you know,
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  Speaker 1: who knows where where things would be right now if
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  Speaker 1: you if you had a legitimate first round wide receiver
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  Speaker 1: on this team that you know, I don't know, could
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  Speaker 1: do everything that there was a big mess. I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you the guy. When you invest that capital and a
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver, it's got it's gotta work out. I always
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  Speaker 1: ask myself what they saw on him, and I remember
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  Speaker 1: hearing not too long ago that they love Vincent Jackson
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  Speaker 1: at some point like that they always had a thing
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  Speaker 1: for Vincent Jackson. I don't know if you if you
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  Speaker 1: remember that ever hearing that. I remember just hearing that
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  Speaker 1: that though they think he's the best receiver in the
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  Speaker 1: league and that and maybe that's what they thought. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't remember Vincent Jackson or not. But
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  Speaker 1: a big, big, physical guy, right like you could run
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  Speaker 1: yeah and catch well yeah, I mean those things. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I it just it was a bad
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  Speaker 1: all around like no need to no need to belabor it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's been on the way out for two
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  Speaker 1: years and finally he's out. Yeah. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to like dwell on it. But in
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  Speaker 1: terms of worst picks, in the Belichick era uas Dominic
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  Speaker 1: Easley might be number one, Chris can't or no Canty
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  Speaker 1: was before um, but I think that, you know, Harry's
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  Speaker 1: up there, especially with who they missed out onto, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the whole other receiving class. Yeah. To overall, well, that's
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  Speaker 1: what makes Harry to me really stand out because it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, like Rossie Dowling, you know Harry, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but it's to me, it's all the guy, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Deebo Samuels of the world that they could have
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  Speaker 1: had Terry in the fifth round. Yeah, yeah, that I
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  Speaker 1: always thought though at least with easily injury issues, for sure,
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  Speaker 1: that's a big red flag. But at his best, when
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  Speaker 1: you saw him really great get off the ball and
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  Speaker 1: seemed like you were getting up. Not that he's the
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  Speaker 1: same size as barm More, I don't think, but that
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  Speaker 1: kind of guy, like an interior disruptive, That's what the
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  Speaker 1: thought was with Harry. I never really looked at it
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  Speaker 1: and said, oh, this guy has a skill that I
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  Speaker 1: see him on tape in college that I think will translate.
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  Speaker 1: And it never did for Easily either. But at least
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  Speaker 1: I understood that pick Harry I was just never really
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  Speaker 1: that high on him. And you know, I would agree
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  Speaker 1: with Mike on that, like I think easily was a
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  Speaker 1: roll of the dice obvious. You know, in retrospect it
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  Speaker 1: was a bad one, but you could understand the skill
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  Speaker 1: set what they were looking at. Yeah, yeah, and they
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  Speaker 1: never got to see it here, but they understood, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that was that whole tennement they were searching for that
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  Speaker 1: athletic interior defensive lineman. I could sort of penetrate and
• 9:09
  Speaker 1: you know, go back to like Jonathan Fine and guys
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  Speaker 1: like that, another injured guy who never panned out for
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  Speaker 1: the Patriots. But I just didn't see what they were
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  Speaker 1: looking at with with Harry, especially with Brady. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when you're drafted, and for Brady at that points, it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't that wasn't his kind of guy. You know. Too
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  Speaker 1: bad we didn't have duced on the draft podcast. Then
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  Speaker 1: he could have told us at the time. You mean
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  Speaker 1: matis oh I thought you said, Oh, I meant, I
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  Speaker 1: meant he would not have been on tusig. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't pay much attention to this big boy, but
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  Speaker 1: Ta takes. He's came right out the gate with the
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  Speaker 1: with a couple of years. Strange Marcus Marcus Jones, Marcus, No, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no one, it's strange, all right. Eight five five past
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  Speaker 1: five hundred is the A ticket hot line? Eight five
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  Speaker 1: five past five hundred, Web radio at Patriots dot com
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  Speaker 1: is the email address? What else we got? So Harry's gone,
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  Speaker 1: Harry's gone. We're checking out the Bengals new Nifor Bengals
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: got white helmets, some white white uh albino tiger. I
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: guess it's like to go to the color rush. It
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  Speaker 1: looks pretty good. I like it. I saw somebody put
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  Speaker 1: together a little mock up of the full black Ravens
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  Speaker 1: uniforms against the white Bengals. That'll be be pretty cool,
• 10:23
  Speaker 1: be nice for color blind people, for you soccer people.
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: FC Baron Munich came out with a new kit white
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  Speaker 1: and gold. Oh the with white with the black stripe
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  Speaker 1: down it. Did you see that? That is sharp? Clean?
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: That's a sharp jersey. What's your take on that jersey?
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  Speaker 1: Just laughing that friend that came up with a new kid,
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  Speaker 1: isn't that? That's what they call it? Fred? But it
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  Speaker 1: was sharp sta. I really liked it. I might I
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  Speaker 1: might get one. So I like about soccer you know,
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  Speaker 1: they dropped new kits every year. KI, do we know?
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  Speaker 1: Why is it a kid? You know, I'll google that
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  Speaker 1: real quick because I guess it's you know, it's the shorts,
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  Speaker 1: it's the shirt. I don't know if the tweets are included,
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  Speaker 1: the socks, the whole kit. So it's a whole kit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I still don't like it. Uniform. It's a uniform, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so it's not the shirt and the pants and the socks.
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  Speaker 1: For football they call it a uniform. I know, but why,
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  Speaker 1: like you, maybe it's the kid because it's the shirt
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  Speaker 1: so we can have a kid we got They call
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  Speaker 1: it a kit because of that. It includes all those things,
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  Speaker 1: the helmet part of the European term. That's why it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. Yeah, I think that soccer just has
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  Speaker 1: to be different. They can't say, they have to say,
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: they can't say the field, and they've been around longer
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  Speaker 1: than American football, so maybe it has to be a match.
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, maybe maybe we're different. Maybe we're
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: the ones that have to be different. You might be
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  Speaker 1: right about that, but every other you know, they stop
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  Speaker 1: the clock when you know the ball's done to play
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  Speaker 1: that you just let it run like they have to
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  Speaker 1: be different. I got a good little Patriots thing on
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  Speaker 1: Nice to Clip this morning with Gardy and Pioli talking
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  Speaker 1: about Mac um Poli's contention, Max got to find his
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  Speaker 1: guy this year, his go to guy that he can
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  Speaker 1: rely on. And you know, I think Scarnecki has said
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  Speaker 1: it last year. Yeah, and right didn't he Yeah, he
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: needs his binky and yeah, and you already just you know,
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: saying what we kind of already knew. Mac going around
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  Speaker 1: the country going to different receivers, not just you know,
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  Speaker 1: the top guys, but you know, even guys like Wilkerson
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  Speaker 1: and Um, but you know, going to them, and I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's just reinforced. I think, well they've had Max.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they've had or Mac did it
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  Speaker 1: on his own, but he's gone to different climates. And
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: I hear he's going to the Upside Down to practice
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: this week. So that's bringing it all the way around
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: to stranger things. That's a gold mine. The gold mine.
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe he can find barbed and uh, save Edie. It
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: was that was a quick barbed sighting. Yeah, in the
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: last one. Yeah, then when they were he was getting
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: into what's her face's mind? Whoever designed Barb And I
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: mean like from a character to you know, costume, like
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  Speaker 1: the glasses and the hair. I mean, she just looks
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  Speaker 1: like a girl right out of my high school as
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: a Barb. Like I just like I have all the
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  Speaker 1: characters I think she is, just like I even said,
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  Speaker 1: I think I said this to you. I even give
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: them credit, you know, So it was like what eighty
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  Speaker 1: three I think when it started, and I think of
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: some of them. You know, it's it's Nancy Joyce. Those
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: are names right from that era, right, you don't hear anymore? Right, Oh, Mike, Well,
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: And I said, miss people like still talking about this show.
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: I think I think they've done a good job and
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: that show. Every character in that show is kind of
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: weird looking like there's no one that's like they're all strange,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they did a good job, like not
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: bringing in like a really good looking kid to play
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  Speaker 1: any of the parts. Wow, yeah, that's Lucas. Lucas is
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  Speaker 1: the only one seems kind of normal to me, like
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  Speaker 1: probably a little bit. You know, they're all Dustin is
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  Speaker 1: Dustin of course, and will Is. They're all like well
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  Speaker 1: even Will like they of them that like, none of
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  Speaker 1: them are like a cool kid, right, but they're not
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be kids. And I think they've done a
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  Speaker 1: good job. But even there's some shows that even then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like even those kids are good looking. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but like, didn't you have like when when you were
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  Speaker 1: in school, didn't you have kids that like didn't go
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  Speaker 1: to recess, they stayed in and liked I know, Fred
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  Speaker 1: was probably one of them. I mixed with all the groups.
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  Speaker 1: I yes you were. I was like, yes, you were
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: always a bridge building. It was the ferrest fueler. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But those I mean, I'm not being disrespectful because some
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  Speaker 1: of those kids were like Fred's points. Some of those
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  Speaker 1: kids were my my friends. I went to school with
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: them from the fourth to the twelfth grade and my
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: geek geek classes. I like to call them the indoor kids. Yeah,
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: they were the They were the indoor recess kids. No
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: matter how nice it was, they were staying in playing
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: D and D like fifth grade, sixth grade, seventh grade,
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  Speaker 1: like it went on for a while and then finally
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  Speaker 1: they were like, we can't do this anymore. But those
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  Speaker 1: were the kids. Yeah, and they kind of looked like that. Yeah,
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: I think D and D's had a little resurgence because
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  Speaker 1: of the show, you know, not like hate your bag
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  Speaker 1: of Dice. I know that's so cool. I mean, what
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: a great song. I mean it's just as you know,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: go driving home yesterday. They're all over funny, like how
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: much money is that show? I didn't know the song.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: You listen to the music radio, Yeah, some terrestrial music radio.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: You don't know, kiss one away in the morning. You
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: are the snobbiest snob in the history of snobbery. All right,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: it's Eric. You don't have a podcast. Makes Eric look humble.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: But like like when you when you listen to music,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: you don't go to like Spotify, No I do. I
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: usually had to go Apple Music. But sometimes it's just
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I don't really feel like dealing with hook on my
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: phone up and going and finding stuff. I just throw
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: on the radio for question. You know, I just don't
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: know how I don't. Paul, I know, loves Mattie in
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: the Morning. He's been a bud. He's gone. That's one
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: of your shows. Maddie's gone. It's not anywhere ears. But
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: now you like Romero and Pebbles. I don't listen to
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: a ton of that anymore. Well, I mean, I listen
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: to some stuff with Billy and that crew, but it's
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: not the same without Maddie. Yeah, even though he got
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: like Morning Zoe, he got really cranky at the end,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: but he was still falls into the Morning Zoo radio.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: But you know, you I click around, listen to It's
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: got a Long Drive, you got a little music. Yeah,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: but I was listening. I listened to my shows as
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Fred calls checked the weather on twenty seven. Yeah, I'm
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: not listening to the weather on the threes here. Yeah,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: that'll be busy, not not doing any of that. That'll
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: be busy. In his time, Kate Bush has made two
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: point three million in royalties so far. Yeah, it's amazing.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I honestly I didn't know the song. Yeah no, I
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: don't know. I've heard it before, but not like I've
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: ever paid attention to it really, But I mean it
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: was just I always love when I was writing movies
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: and stuff that, like, I just love trying to find
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: the perfect song for a scene or something. And that
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: was what was so cool about that song, Like a
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: captured Max's character of you know, wanting to switch places
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: with Billy. I mean maybe even it's a little two
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: on the nose but you knew exactly why the character
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: would respond to that song. And I think that's what
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: they sold to Kate Bush too. I don't think is
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: one to give out a lot of permission to use
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: for music. So I guess that's paid off four an hour.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: Good good decision, good decision. It was funny because in
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: the season with Never Ending Story, my kids were constantly
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: singing that song and there's million tiktoks and all the
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: you know the things with that song. And I was
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: like what and I what do you do? Like why
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: are you singing that? But did you guys just see
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: that movie or something like why are you singing that?
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: And they told me no, it's it's a big part
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: of the you know whatever. And then the next season
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: comes and it's this Kate Bush song and they were
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: singing that and I'm like what, I go what is it? Like?
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I literally had I had no idea what what they
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: were singing. He goes, no, no, seriously, this was like
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: a big song. You should know this, And I'm like, no,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Iver heard of hearing it? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: definitely distinctive. Yeah, oh yeah when you hear it, like,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: because now it's even I mean Fred doesn't listen because
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: he's get big spiking. I think they didn't want to
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: as well. But shoot, I was last night. We were
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: watching because I'm doing season three now. But when Max
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: and Eleven are kind of having in like girl time,
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: and you know, when they're kind of becoming friends, they're listening.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I think it's another Kate Bush song. I want to
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I meant to check it, but I like, I like
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: when that stuff tracks. You know that's our favorite artist, right,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you know it's consistent. Yeah, Walkman, Yeah, I had a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: walker I did. Oh I did? You had a Walkman
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: for like a couple of years. Surprise at that, I got, well,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: you're a little erroldednt. Yeah, I had a Walkman with
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: the orange foam on the hall. Yeah, I had the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, Sony Walkman in original with the orange
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: foam on the on the Yeah. All right, five five
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: passive hundred thought those were long gun by the time,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you guys web radio at a uh at web radio
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com. Uh, let's go to the phone.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Let's see what people are thinking about, what they want
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: to talk about. UM Joe's and Raleigh, North Carolina. Hey Joe, Hey,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: what's going on? Jen? Hey, hey, hey, so, uh look,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I'm getting married in November. Congratulations and thank you very much.
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: He's a her and her family die oard Philly fans,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: so you know it's true love. Um. So we I'm
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: the homely I'm the only relocated Yankee in the family,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: so taking me and my buddies up to the Motherland.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: We had scheduled the bachelor party, and we're waiting for
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the schedule to come out and found out that we
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: were playing the Lion And immediately, you know, it just
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: had me thinking like how much time to have changed?
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Because I sent it to the group and my cousins
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and I said, Wow, if there was any game that
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: we wanted at home, it would be the Lion, one
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: that we definitely will win. And that quickly turned into
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a should uh well, it is senior day here for
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: that game, so they think they're gonna win. Yeah. I
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: can only hope. It'll be our first trip up there,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and we're gonna be staying at Patriot's Place on Saturday
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: with you know, ten guys, twelve guys. I know there's
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Bar Louis up there, but I don't know. Just get
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: kind of a read on the scene at Patriot's Place.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: What might you recommend, um, just for the surrounding area. Yeah,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I mean is Bar Louis. There's Six Strings, which is
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: like a kind of a country western bar, but they
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: have live music there. Um Skipjack skip Jack. Well, you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: if you want to go to a bar, I wouldn't
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: recommend skip Jacks, although they have a bar, Scorpion Bar. Yeah,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: it's some Margarita's. Yeah. If you're looking for older women,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Davio's at the bar. I got a few buddies that
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: might get over. Yeah, Zach, Zach Wilson COOKI Yeah, Zach
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Wilson's all over our group chat. Yeah you might if
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: if it's like, you know, ten to twelve guys, you
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: might want to venture down to Providence, which is about,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: you know, thirty forty minutes away south. Um, there's some
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: good establishments down there. It's the train still is the
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: train still running out of here to go up into Boston?
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Still or not? Now? COVID killed it? Yeah, I figured, yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: cod really helpful to still the humulial stuff. I um,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: you know, winner loose, gonna be a lot of diet
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: millers shout out the ball. I'll leave it with a
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: fun little game, because I heard you guys talking about
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: it before you got me on if you had to
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: put a song on to protect you from Bevecna, because
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I do love that cake. Let's let's grove tonight. This
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: has already been discussing. Ahold oh oh. So what would
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: be my go to song? Right? Yeah, yeah, so tough.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I think it would be long cool woman in a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: black dress by the Hot Yeah, not bad. I got
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: offer You by Janet Jackson. Here's a good song. It's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: a jam. Yeah, I think maybe a little immigrant song.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I like Zepttle hard rock all right, maybe anybody has
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: a look less hard inside on the inside. On the inside,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I'm a rock side on the answer doesn't mean look
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a little like Lars and Metallian. You know that that
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: metalli a documentary ruined Metallica for me? Did you see
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that some kind of monster back in the day where
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: it was like you. It went from like Metallica being
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: these larger than life, scary metal heads to like a
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: bunch of artsy guys sitting around trying to figure out
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: how to write a song, right, just like completely undercut
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: everything that I thought about Metallica being total badasses. And
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it's like, Uh, what's this the guitarist? I'm blanking? I
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: was day, But you know he's just like this, like
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: very harmless, nice guy. I don't know, it's just perception
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: in reality. All right, Joe, thanks for the call. What
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: was your song? Paul? Forget? Let's grove, Let's groove, Let's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: groove tonight? All right? Share the spice of lad uh.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Jean Luke is from Tennessee, but previously from Rhode Island.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I wonder if with the name like Jean Luke, he
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: probably does. He's one of the few people Eric talks
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to him. What do you guys think of the depth chart?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I know it says official, but I find it interesting
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: that the offense is now set up with a two
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: tight end formation, So could that open up the possibility
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: of four tight ends or more on the roster. Don't
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: don't put anything into that, just as people that are,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you know, involved in the formations of such depth charts,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: please do not read anything into it. It's just basically
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: listing all the players at the positions that there. There's
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: no strategy involved. Now, they don't tell us, hey, you
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: might want to switch from the three wide receiver look
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: to the two tight end looks. In fact that they
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: in fact, they would probably prefer us not to even
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: put it up there because we get questions like this.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: He goes on to say, is there an official name
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: for the defensive scheme of three defensive line three linebackers
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: five dbs? And is it a new type of defensive scheme?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: If not, how long has it been around? Three? Five? Yeah? Yeah,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: two five, three, three five? Those are probably the two
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: most is sort of turn into their base Yeah, yeah, Last,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: but not last, but not least always watching those video games. Sorry, last,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: but not least, Fred, you seem to be on a
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: roll when it came to uniform ideas. White helmet with
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the flying of his's logo, with blue jersey, white pants.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I would love to see a red, white and blue
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: uniform combination. Yeah, I would too. I mean, I know
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: they're gonna have to throwbacks. They had the jersey reveal,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: but I'd love to see the red jersey with a
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: white helmet. In the elvis like a mix, like a
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: like a mash up kind of Yeah, a little a
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: little something old something borrowed something blue ye something elvis something. Okay,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: you're going to um get a long show, Bradley writes
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: in uh, he says, hey, ladies and gents and deuce,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I'm finally getting to watch a Patriots game at Foxboro
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: this year, nice um, and hopefully watch them beat the Colts.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: This will be my first time taking a trip to
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the area. I'm looking for some advice. Would it be
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: best to stay in Boston or elsewhere? Are there areas
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: to avoid and other fun things to do on a
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: long weekend. Good food places would also be greatly appreciate.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna come way in advance, like a few days,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I would say stay in Boston too, right, and then
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: if you can transfer down to Foxborough. But you know,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: you you know, there's not much here other than Patriot
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Place in the stadium. Yep. Yeah, if you can stay
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: here maybe the night before the game or even after,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: just have a place to go, not have to worry
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: about getting in getting out. But if you're gonna be
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: here and visiting, I think Boston for sure. And they
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: do the train out of Boston, so you know there
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: is there are ways to get down here. Yeah. It's
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: also not a bad drive. Yeah. Now, but if you're
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna get the experience. I think Boston
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: is the place to go. Yep, No North then there's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: so many things Newberry Street, the whole Back Bay area,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: you know, freedom people, lots of restaurants. Now ye make
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: way for ducklings. I mean, I'll forget Dorchester, right Westy
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: any other part of the city that we haven't mentioned, North,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: south End, South h Mitch's in Albany. I gotta say,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit sad about Nikil Harry being traded.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I always liked him and thought he could eventually turn
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: out to be a good receiver. I guess I'm just
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: an idiot because he was absolutely useless for the Patriots.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Seeing him make the occasional contested catch gave me false
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: hope that he could do anything as a receiver in
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm surprised we even managed to get a
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: seventh round pick Farewell in the Kiel Well that turned.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. The whole beginning of
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: the email, I was thinking it was one of those
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: sardcastic emails. Yeah, so he was just thinking it was genuine.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I think he kept waiting every year. Tony writes in
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: The Harry Debacle is even worse then were the Chad
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Jackson Dopson picks. At least those two were second round picks,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: overruling his scouting staff to instead heed the recommendation of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Harry's college coaches. Frankly general manager malpractice. Maybe the atrocious
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: pick of the legendary Dominic Easley, who limped onto the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Patriots training camp fields that first year like he was
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Walter Brennan or Jed Clampett, was equally horrific. But no
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: first round pick by coach Goat has been quantifiably worse
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: than Harry. To think Deebo, samuel A. J. Brown, DK Metcalf,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Dion Johnson, Terry mcglau were all available on the draft
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: board at wide receiver makes me want to throw up
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: in my mouth. To paraphrase Bill Parcels, tell us how
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: you really feel? Yeah, yeah, I mean it's hard to
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: argue that that Harry doesn't set atop the moves, especially
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: not even just because of the player, I think because
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: of the timing of it at this kind of critical
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: juncture as you were getting at the end of Brady's career,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: and you know, had they hit on that one, one,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: had it you know, been one of those players that
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: that he mentioned, like I said, things might have been
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: a little bit different. So okay, So if if that
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: story is true that Bill leaned on the recommendation, wanted
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: to get to that. Yeah, if it's true, does Bill
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: go back and say you screwed me? Or you know? Sure?
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: You know? I mean, I hope. So just my whole
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: feeling on these kinds of things always, I'm pretty consistent
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: with it. It's like, I understand that that story's out there,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: and I think we all can interpret ourselves like which parts.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: And you know, Mike was teasing me earlier, like you
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: know the things that I sort of I treat. Yeah, no,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: I buy that on things that I don't buy. But
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: what I never do is just completely accept everything as fact, right,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: like that story. And this is going to be strange
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to you guys, but I'm gonna be very defensive of
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Bill here. That story has become fact. It was all
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent Bill Belichick's fault, right, had nothing to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: do with any Scout, any recommendation from from the Personnel
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Department GM, whatever, nothing. It was all Bill. They told him,
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: you better go get DK metcalf Y, you better get
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin, You better get Deebo Samuel and Bill said no, right,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: this is the guy I'm taking. And that has been
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: like absolutely accepted as fact around here. Right. I don't
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: think there's much chance that it went down like that,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: but that's the way everybody I know views it now,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I know, But again, like I think that who who
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: would be telling the writers that that's what happened? Like,
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: what what's the sword? What do you think would be saying? Like,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: because I think Albert Brier was the first one who
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: started writing about writing about it now, like Albert Brier
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: wrote about it in twenty nineteen. You know, it's typical
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: of the way that's done around here. But whatever that
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that came out and everybody just accepted it maybe exactly
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: what happened. I'm not telling you what didn't happen. And
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I do think Bill overrules the Scouts at times. But
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: where do you think that information came from? Like Albert
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Brio just writes about this decision to take if Gail Harry,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: if it's a Scout, right right, And why would the
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Scouts be saying that cover my ass? Don't blame me
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: right exactly? Now, if it really went down like that,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't need to do that because Bill knows. Yeah, hey, Mike,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I know you gave me the recommendation. That is my bad.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You know, we went against it. The Scouts wouldn't need
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: to defend them. Well, okay, But here's the other thing.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, these guys move around, these Scouts. You know,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: this isn't going to be their last job, probably any
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of them, and they're worried about their own reputation. So
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: they don't want just Bill to know it. They want
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: everybody else to know it wasn't me. I know, But
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: that's an easy one to do. Like what I'm saying
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: is if you as long as Bill knows the truth,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: he's going to back you. Yeah, is my point, And
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: he's gonna You're gonna have a job with him, certainly,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: if as long as you're doing your job right. I
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: just so, here's another thing. It's too easy to just
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: sit there and say, ooh, it was all Bill's fault.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: So here's another one like that. Back when urban Meyer
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: was the coach at Florida and Bill took Jermaine Cunningham
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: and he was the second of the two good linemen there,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and the first lineman was Carlos and the narrative is
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: Bill looked at the tape and said, no, it's Cunningham.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: That's the guy. You know. Now, in this case, it
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: wasn't a recommendation of Meyer. This was it was all Bill, Yeah,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: you know, yeah, like and like, I don't know if
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: that's true or not, but that's that's and again and again,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I just want to just you know, I don't I'm
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: not taking Bill off the hook. Yeah, Like I think
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Bill is ultimately in charge. I give him credit for
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the good picks, and I give him blame for the
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: bad ones. He deserves the vast majority of the blame
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: for all of the picks that we're criticizing. To that
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that Bill should be given a pass,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: but I just think that, like sometimes I think we
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: simplify it too much in a story that comes out
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: becomes fact down the road, right, and then it's and
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: then it gets rolled into all the draft picks are
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: his fault, you know, like like I just think he
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: can't he can't draft, and I think, I mean, I
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: think you've been consistent with this, Paul too, Like, I mean,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I don't. I wasn't surprised to hear you say that,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and you know, and what what about the times? Was
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: there ever a time that nobody wanted a guy and
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: he wanted him and he actually turned out good? Like
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: did the scouts go to Albert Breer and say that
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: we didn't want Rob Gronkowski. We thought the back was
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: a problem with guy Bill and Bill overruled us. Because
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: if if that story came out now, I'm a little
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: bit more willing to say, Okay, Bill, Bill flexes his
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: muscles a little bit at draft time, and again, ultimately,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: Bill is the he's the final say, he's the guy
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: in charge. When they make a good pick, it's Bill.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: When they make a bad pick, it's Bill. And I'm
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: pretty consistent with that, but I just it's it's the
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: other stuff around the edges that I'm not always fully
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: on board with. I think something interesting it would be
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: to look back at, you know, maybe when he's done,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: is how how things changed based on like his coordinators,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: how you know, general managers, just little nuances in how
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the organization maybe like I don't even know what you
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: would find, but just you know, I mean, I think
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: we can say with you know, Bill, Billy, Oh, there
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: was a certain kind of style offense when Josh came back,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you know, a certain kind of style offense. We know
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: between Patricia and Brian Flores, those kind of subtle changes.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: But it's just interesting that that a guy can run
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: a football team for twenty plus years and there's new
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: guys faces coming in GM up front office level, on
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: the field coaching level. How do those how how did
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: those things kind of change subtly over over those different
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: tenures out a little little piece that's kind of interesting
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: to me. Let's get back to the phones, um, the
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: stacked phones, I should say, Dan's in Virginia in Michigan.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: What's up, hey, guys. Your discussion on Tuesday of uh
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: tip making the Hall of Fame and the struggles that
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: some players have because their teams don't have the wins
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: during the time that they were on the team has
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: me asking the question, how do you factor in wins
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: or you know, team success into evaluating a player, because
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I've had I've seen people on social media pushback on
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Brady being the greatest because they say that wins aren't
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: a individual stat, they're a team stat. So how do
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: you balance, um, you know, I had the success of
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: a team versus the ability of a player in his
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: studability for the whole of fame. Yeah, I think I
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: think you have to just look at you. It's the
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: eye test, all perfects. Joe Thomas on the Browns, like
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: they lost for his whole career, and he was but
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: he was great. And you know the you know, one
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: of the ones that everyone brings up, Dan Marino. He
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: was a great quarterback, you know. And it's not like
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Miami didn't win games. They beat the Patriots every year. Um,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: they just didn't go all the way, you know. But
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: Joe's amis is a good one. The tea springs up
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: because I mean he was on bad teams and was
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: considered a great tap to shake his quarterback's hand and
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: introduce himself in the huddle. Like that's how dysfunctional it
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: was so player. I just don't know how anyone could
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: watch the actual games of Tom Brady and not and
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: not acknowledge that he is well and I know it's
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: a team game, but he's the quarter when it's all
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: on him. And I just think that you have to
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: take it all into consideration because I would say that
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I'm probably not as much, you know, I don't like
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: the like the strict record for a quarterback, and I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: know a lot of people do it, and yeah, like
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I look at you know, some other factors and some
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: of them are tough because, like I think Garoppolo is
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: like as average as average can be. I don't think
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: there's anything special there. I've said this for years. Right,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: his record is ridiculously good, and the Niners record without
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: him is ridiculously bad. But I still think he's kind
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: of average. Right, Brady's record is tremendous, and they've been
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: a five hundred teams since he left. You know, I
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: don't I don't think that those two things are the same.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: You know. I think there's a lot of stuff that
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: goes into it, and you gotta just kind of watch.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: That's why it's subjective. You gotta watch. You gotta look
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: deeper than the record. Freddy and I love Elway. Yeah,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: he might not have numbers that are as good as
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: you know, Drew Breeses. You know, to use the guy
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: that we talked about on Tuesday, but you know which
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: is as far superior is the complete guy had everything,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: he had the cannon, he could run, he was strong stones. Yeah,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: you know, so, so it was like that quote fred
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: had before he was courting somebody else. But it's like pornography,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you know when you see it, right, it's true, It's true.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Have you seen lately? Dan? The other the other question
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I had, following off from the Whole of Fame discussion,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: was so, who's a player from any time, any team
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: that you think should be in the whole thing? Who isn't. Well,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: we talked about it the other day. Stanley Morgan. You know,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: I'll be oh, yeah, I'll go full full blown Homer
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and say Stanley Morgan, Yeah, I love the guy. I
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: think Rodney should be in, Rodney Harrison. Yeah, well, let's
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: give him time. I mean, Stanley's had a long time
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: to get in, and Rodney could get in. Yeah, it's
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: not like he's been snubbed at this right. Yeah, yeah,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: you know an other guy. I don't know. It's hard
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: to take inventory other teams. You have a list in
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: front of you. Yeah, I'm not a huge spite my
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: shirt today and my presence on the Patriots Hall of
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Fame committee, I'm not a huge home. I have more
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: guys that I think shouldn't be yea, Yeah, I find
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: that much easier. Yeah, all right, thanks, Dan, appreciate it.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Let's go to Dominique in New York. I hope it's
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: not Dominique easily, what's up? I think it's dominic No,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: it's not. All right? Good, So I got two questions.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: My first question is, um, what's your most random Patriots memory?
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: For example, for some reason, I had a random thought
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: of Wint even really got knocked out against the Buffalo Raven.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I think it was infamed over at that end of
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: the game, game over drop. Yeah, So what are your
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: most random Oh god, there's so many. I mean, welcome
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: getting hurt in Houston. I haven't. I just was so
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: pissed about that. Yeah, the wild Card get Wildcat. That's
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: a good random memory. Yeah yeah, yeah, that was weird.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Who was the coach to Morano with his glasses? That
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: game was so weird. Yeah, it was just like what
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: was it? What was the reaction in the press bar?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: We were frustrating? Like what it was frustrating? Just start
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: it again. They just kept doing it right over and
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: as soon as they kind of get a beat on it,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: then they shift and like throw the pass for a touchdown. Yeah.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I remember he held the ball like it was like
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: a like a like one of those boxing bags. He
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: held the ball up and punched it. That was a
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: rough weeks. I know I did have my first child
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: in matt Air, but you lose Brady and then they
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: pull out the way I was going to say the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Brady when Brady tours ACL I mean not, I know
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: that's not that random, but that's a clear memory of
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: feeling like, well, what am I going to do for
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: the next four months? Well, I remember kind of a
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: random one. It was the end of the Pete Carroll era,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: like the writing was on the wall and they were
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: playing the Eagles in there was a screw up, and
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: there was a loose ball and special teams and Larry Wigham,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: who backed then was kind of the special teams guy
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: instead of like jumping on the balls, like doing this
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: celebration dance while there's a loose ball behind him, And
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: it was like it encapsulated the whole season. It absolutely did.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: It's a great random memory and as I often do
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: do so I'll fill in the blanks. And they blocked
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a punt. Wigham blocked the punt and celebrated as the
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: ball was rolling right. The Eagles picked it up and
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: ran it for a first down right, and Wigham was
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: in full celebration mode. Yeah, it did. It just kind
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: of the last half of that ninety nine season in
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: that one play was all Peter kind of lost the
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: team and it was yeah, wow, that must be That
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: must be weird feeling walking out of the press box
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: after the game and feeling like this is it, Like
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: this is the Era is about the end? The kind
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: of feel that way he was getting fired, this was it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: I like I have so many Like I remember being
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: in a press conference post game in Atlanta, Bill Parcels
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Era and the Patriots had lost the game, they had
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: a chance to win it. They had like two thirty
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: left on the clock, and to me, it seemed like
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: they were rushing and they didn't need to. They had
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: timehouse and they just seemed to be rushing. So I
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: actually asked Parcels about that. I seemed like, you know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the team was kind of rushing through that final drive,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: and you know, he really and he like jumped all
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: over me, like and just dismissed, you know. And the
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: next day Board just backed me up and wrote what
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I said in his column like the Patriots are absolutely run,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: you know. So I felt a little vindicated, But you know,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: consider the source. But yeah, but but that you remember
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: that right? That game? I don't remember the altercation with you,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: but I don't know the game that you're talking. No,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: but do you think that do you remember the end?
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Do you think that they were rushing a little bit? Oh? No,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember the game. Okay, I
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: don't remember. You don't remember this. I don't remember every
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: other game because because Drew didn't play Zalac, I'm out. Yeah,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's what I thought I had
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: mentioned that was Zola game. That's something that's stuck with me.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I remember about that game. Maurice
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: Hurst stepped in front of a guy for a pick
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: six and they called back in deference and it was
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: a terrible call. How's that terrible? Yes? What about Champ
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Bailey the pick six? Yeah? Looking at the TV analyze
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: that you went over the Yeah, I always credit that game, Like,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think I would be doing what I do
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: right now if not for that game. And how much
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: that game, like just like they hadn't lost yet, you know,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: like and you knew that was the reminder that all right,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: you got Bill and Tom for a certain amount of time.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: How many can you get? And this is a reminder that,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: all right, it's not going to always go great. But
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: that game, you know what that game was to me,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: It's a team that was out of gas. Yeah, from
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: like they had fourteen and two Super Bowl fourteen and
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: two Super Bowl. Here we are again. Now we won
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the wild card because they didn't get to buy that
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: year and they had to go to Denver, and I
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: just think they looked like a tired I'll give you
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: a Denver random. I think that these things happened in
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: the same game, and Paul will correct me, but Logan
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Mankins was battling with this guy the whole game and
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: he ended up on both knees in front of the
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: guy and just hauled off and punched him in the nuts,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: a full blown I think that was a Denver game.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: It wasn't. I know, it was a Denver game. And
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: I think in the same game Chad Brown getting folded
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: in half then, yeah, yeah, folded in half, like literally
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: off the ground where his toes were at his forehead. Yeah,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: and they've never seen any Those are the seasons, you know,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: people talk about Bill Belichick and his greatness and as
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: a coach. Those are like the individual seasons that to me,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Bill and Tom's greatness really shine through because he's that
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: was the Monty Bizel. Chad Brown. Yeah, they had to
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: move like Rabel from outside to inside. Like they couldn't play.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: They didn't have NFL players to like to play like.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Chad Brown had a really good career, but he was
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: done when he came here. He had nothing left and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: he was a guy that clearly just rushed the pad
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: like he couldn't do the things they needed them to do.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: They would just plug in holes left and right. They
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: still found a way to win a lot of games
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and go to the playoffs and go to the second
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: round of the playoffs, even just because of the greatness
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: of Bill and Tom. Yeah, I mean it feels like
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: those are the teams that can't beat the good teams.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Like when you like a bad Patriots team, they're gonna
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: still beat the bad teams. But it's a current Red Sox. Yeah,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: you know current Patriots last year. You know, the good
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: teams the big games, those are the ones that they
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: couldn't quite But I've never seen someone from his knees
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: haul off and just punch somebody in the nuts the draft.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Do you remember that, Paul? I remember, but I don't
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: remember like who it was, and I can't remember it
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: was psych Did I just see that he got called for?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't remember Denver enough. There was
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: one with Channing Crowder. I remember he got into him
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and Matt White, and I think that was the one
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: that he was good to see Mett pounding on his head.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: What was it like in the press box when that
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Champ Bailey play happened and Watson out random, like I mean,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: because you guys probably could have seen wattsiliary press. I
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: was in the right. It was only a division around game,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: so I was able to watch that one. I don't
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: think any of us ever really like they're like, oh yeah, yeah, whatever,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Like I don't really on those kinds of plays. I
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: don't really look. You know, this is going to surprise you,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I know, because everybody thinks I'm so negative, But like
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: I don't generally look for like the technicality to bail
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: me out. Like to me, it was a terrible play.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: They got the pressure off the edge and one of
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: my favorite Patriots of all time, Tom Ashworth, caused that play.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: He missed the block can write in Brady's face. Brady
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: rushed it through it before without looking and got victimized
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: by a really, really good corner who made a play.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: And like, to me, Okay, yeah, you might have been
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: able to win the game if it was actually a
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: touch back and you get the ball in the twenty
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: huge momentum change. But to me, like, I'm not looking
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: for the technicality. I'm not looking for the touch rule
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: every time. Like, yeah, I don't think at the time,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't think of it play. When the replay, everybody
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: in the press was amazed by Watson's hustle. Yes speak, Yes,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: that's right, But I don't think there was an uproar
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: even among the local media about the call. Now, if
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: that had happened today, it certainly would have been. There wasn't.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: But at the time Fred's right. It was Ron Borges,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Kevin Mannix, Ron Hobson, all guys that have been around
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: for they they they you know, they were covering games.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: They were covering games. They weren't like rooting, they weren't
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: covering a dynasty. Yeah, there wasn't like that's a terrible call.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that at all. I mean, it happened
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: in the aftermath. That's what you know, everybody's like, you know,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: in retrospect, they probably should have overturned that. I mean,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I've never seen a play, and that's what I was
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: just gonna say, even as like a diehard, crazy Patriot
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: fan at the time, like I was still like, and
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Bill has said the same thing that led to Bill's
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: famous you know, maybe we can have yeah, and we
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: can have a bake sale and put some cameras on
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: the goal line. Yeah, because because the angle didn't give
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: you the definitive look. But the amazing thing was Watson's
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: speed and hustle. Oh yeah, well that's why I meant
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: from up above you must just end mean, I know
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: it exists. Well you know you didn't realize you see,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: like where he had to come from and like he
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: was hauling at it was. That was the aftermath, was exact. Fred, Yeah,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: you tied that all up like that. Everybody was like,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: did you see? But watching just did. Yeah, And that's
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: what I found a coach in any level. I'm this
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: is what happens when you have anything can happen. You
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: don't know that happened like two years ago in the
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: Seattle Uh oh, the Cardinals game, Buddha Baker, um kalf
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: got yeah, chased down from behind by d don't stop,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: don't stop the whistle? Ye? Uh? Does that answer you
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: a question? Dominic gave a lot of a lot of
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Randomness's enjoying Yeah, I'm just enjoying it. I'm you know,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: I'm a younger fan of twenty seven, so hearing kind
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: of throwack. I remember Ben Bot company, but not really
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: much after maybe or before two thousand and one. My
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: last question, I might hop and y'all get back to it. Um,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: will be your top five quarterbacks not including Brady, Garoppolo
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and Bloedsow since two thousand that have played for the
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Patriot since two thousand? Wow? Okay, well let you go
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: top five? Well, top five can come up from five.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: But Castle I don't have a top Yeah. I mean
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: who who top five quarterbacks other than Brady and Bledsow
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: and Garoppolo. I can't even use Garoppolo, No Edelmans to
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: be max number one for me. Castle. Yeah? I like Castle,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: but but you know they play it. I'd have Castle.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I hated that season though, because everyone said, oh, you know,
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: they ended up eleven and five and you know, almost
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: making the playoffs even with Castle, but they beat up
• 47:58
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• 48:00
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• 48:27
  Speaker 1: you can't put Cam in? No, you know who Damon
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• 48:35
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• 48:37
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• 48:48
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• 48:50
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• 48:52
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• 48:54
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• 48:58
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• 49:00
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• 49:02
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• 49:06
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• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he played quarterback. You kicked that
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• 49:15
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• 49:19
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• 49:21
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• 49:23
  Speaker 1: they played. Arm Just who do you like? Davy? Terrible look,
• 49:29
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• 49:34
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• 49:37
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• 49:40
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• 49:45
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• 49:50
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  Speaker 1: Don writes in from Calgary, still getting enough? You know
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  Speaker 1: Calgary pretty well? Yeah? Sure. Do you remember a few
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  Speaker 1: years ago when Cleveland had those bud light fridges that
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  Speaker 1: didn't open until Cleveland broke their windless street? Bonus point
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: if you remember the first team they beat? Yeah, it
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• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I was thinking that we should get fridges of diet
• 50:39
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  Speaker 1: team punt. Paul missed that one. Oh my god, I
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  Speaker 1: week two, but when hopefully finally Pittsburgh has to punt
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: and I won't, Paul, I can already Phil, Paul leaning
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  Speaker 1: on the phone, Williams and Philham? What's up? William? What's up? Brave?
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey? Hey? What's up? Paul? Mike? Hey?
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  Speaker 1: Uh okay, I was just listening to y'all basically. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I'm kind of kind of a little late though,
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  Speaker 1: come in with it. But y'all were spoke about Nikill
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Harry correct. Yeah yeah, okay, okay, So as bad as
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: it that makes you so angry war with Bill boy? Okay,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: So I gotta ask you another question. Is it true
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: that Bill knew that A J. Brown wants to be
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: with the Patriots? I don't know, I don't know. I
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: don't know what was that? Was that like an Instagram THINGEO?
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: After he visited, well, he put out of A J.
• 51:46
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• 51:49
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• 51:51
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• 51:53
  Speaker 1: that's that's you know, that that's why they didn't. Yeah,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: you know the story. The myth is that's was a
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: mark against him in a reason why they may not
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: have drafted him. But I don't know if that's true either. Yeah. Right, Um,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: And just one more thing too, I mean, kill just
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: answered me this. I mean, even you, Paul, Um, how
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  Speaker 1: in the hell did you how did you come up
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: picking to kill Harry over all those receiverts? What told you?
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I mean like even even a fan could pick up
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: those over to kill Harry. Why would you? Why would
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  Speaker 1: you do that? I know, are you supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: giving Son Braddy a weapon? Listen, I can't. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to take credit for oh. They At the time,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people, William, You're right, a lot of
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: people said he's not the best of the bunch. He
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: can't get separation. That was said immediately, immediately, Bred, I
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: would doubt understand that. Your boy, I understand that's your
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  Speaker 1: Oh god, I'm like, dude, how did you pass up
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  Speaker 1: on Hollywood Brown, DK Metcam Terry mccorn. Yo, Well, I
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  Speaker 1: think Deebo Samuel is the best football player in the
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: league right now, you know, and guys that fit what
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: they do. That's what's frustrating. Yeah, well yeah, and it's
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: just another receiver added to the bunch with d Johnson,
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Aaron Dops. God, damn Mike. I know. He's kind of
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: a hypothetical though. Do you think if they drafted AJ
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Brown he'd still be on the Patriots right now? Yeah?
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: He wouldn't. If you if they had drafted AJ Brown,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: would he still be on the Patriots right now. I mean,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: he's obviously not on Tennessee. Still, I don't think you
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: would be. But but during those years, would Tom Brady
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: still be? Maybe there's just so many hypothetically what's going
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: to happen? Butterfly alight, thanks William, But it's like, what
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: would make you more matt Like what makes you matter that,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: like you totally whiff on to kill Harry or that
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: you nail A J. Brown totally totally whiffing on Harry
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: makes me more mad because at least if they had
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: drafted AJ Brown and what happened happened, ten had a
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: couple good year, and I would say, all right, we'll
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: just get another one. Yeah, right, Who thinks they just
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: got another one? You know, I don't want to revisit,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: you know, the fight that Mike and I had on Tuesday.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: But aside from Mike, who thinks they got another one?
• 54:13
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• 54:16
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• 54:26
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• 54:29
  Speaker 1: which headline is more likely to be a real headline
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: during the twenty twenty three off season. Headline was Steve
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: adopted because this defense shows no sign of Belichick's genius,
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  Speaker 1: or Steve Belichick is the most desirable head coach option
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty three season. I need the first one. Yeah,
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: but you don't talking about two thousand and five. That's
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: similar concerns turnover at lineback. Yeah, first thing, you don't.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: It's not really his fault. Just there's so many unanswered questions.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: So you gotta see what happened Romandres quote or headline
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Romandre Stevenson is a true bell cow back and could
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: break Dylan's single season team rushing record in twenty twenty three,
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: or it's clear these are long headlines, or it's clear
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: the Patriots are missing a fullback due to the lowest
• 55:16
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• 55:19
  Speaker 1: the first one. We have to have one of those two. Yeah,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: first one. Yeah, Well, questions, but it goes back to
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: what we kind of talked about last week of leg
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: is is there any way that any of those backs
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: could get enough carries and enough of a role that
• 55:31
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• 55:33
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• 55:35
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• 55:37
  Speaker 1: don't think they're going to have I don't think Stevenson
• 55:39
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• 55:43
  Speaker 1: and fifty yards or whatever. But I think the running
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: game will be fine. Like yeah, despite nope, fullback, Yeah,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: headline back at the top. Patriots win division with a
• 55:53
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• 55:58
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty one with two more games again some
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Bills without forcing a single punt. Wow, your punt line
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: just getting a lot of legs, right, I know, we
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: just you missed it, Paul. Somebody said that, Um oh
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: you heard the Miller light thing. I'm all for it. Yeah,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: which one? I think the first one. There's no way
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: they're gonna play two more games and not force a punt.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: No way, no way, say the second swept with punts
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: they punted. Headline Kwon McMillan has the makings of the
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: next great Patriots linebacker or dugger looks lost at safety
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: and will be on the roster bubble for twenty twenty three.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: See this is like it's not fair the way they
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: they've set up. The second thing is almost impossible to
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: happen in every one of these scenarios, So you're forced
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: to take the over the top positive thing that's almost
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: impossible to happen. Okay, I mean I think, just generally,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of McMillan. I think he
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: has to be a three down linebacker for them. I mean,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I you know, Bentley is what he is, but I
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: think I think he's a key, key guy to watch.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: And Howland volved here, I do too. But the most
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: likely thing, I mean, like, I don't think there's any
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: chance that Dougger's gonna look lost and be a roster cood, right,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think there's any chance of that. Right,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: So you're you're forced to say, well, McMillan's the next
• 57:11
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• 57:14
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• 57:18
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  Speaker 1: you guys were talking earlier about nineteen nineties Patriots memories,
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  Speaker 1: so I thought i'd chime in. I want to preface
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  Speaker 1: became a Patriots fan the day the team made the
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  Speaker 1: announcement of his hiring. That said, I'm watching the Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl against the Packers on NFL Network last night, and
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I was floored by something everyone knows about. How poor
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  Speaker 1: to me the decision to kickoff to Desmond Howard was.
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  Speaker 1: But one thing I had completely forgotten about is that
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: in the ensuing Patriots possession, the drive was completely blown
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  Speaker 1: up by Reggie White. If there was any chance of
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  Speaker 1: recovering from the kickoff, it ended right there. Yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: famous site Matt max Lane just getting abused he thought
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  Speaker 1: you had a chance right before that takeoff, and that
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  Speaker 1: just changed it. Um, I don't understand how Parcel slashed
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  Speaker 1: Dante slash rest of the coaching staff could have possibly
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: decided that blocking future Hall of Famer Reggie White one
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  Speaker 1: on one with Max Lane was a good idea. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: that's ain't that the truth with Reggie White? And funny
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: I went back Barmore said, he, uh, he grew up
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: watching a lot of Reggie White, like that was kind
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: of his guy who the coaches kind of put him on.
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  Speaker 1: And I kind of went back to just like as
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  Speaker 1: I was looking him. But what a what a dominant
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  Speaker 1: beast that guy wasn't that I mean? And I'd love
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: to see Barmore be that guy. But like that's what
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: I think is missing from the Patriots, right, Yeah, the
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: other the other kind of legend. But it's kind of
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: true because I have you know, he said it firsthand
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  Speaker 1: about that Super Bowl in the play with Desmond Howard,
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  Speaker 1: but Troy Brown didn't wasn't in on that play, wasn't
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  Speaker 1: playing And he says, I should have been in because
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  Speaker 1: I would have caught him. I would have wouldn't have
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  Speaker 1: argue with Troy Brown. You probably would have, and so
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  Speaker 1: that was a personnel decision that was a bad one.
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  Speaker 1: I remember just being like very young, watching like the
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  Speaker 1: highlights on NFL network but not knowing what happened, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's like second half. I was like, oh, okay, Like, well, O,
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  Speaker 1: what year was that you were here for, like your
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  Speaker 1: second third year? I mean it's my second year, so
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  Speaker 1: I mean you're already going. We were five and eleven.
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  Speaker 1: And then the second year we went to the super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean, a bunch of wide eyed, like
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  Speaker 1: new people. You know, it's funny, like talk about random memories. So,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: you know, back then, it was a much smaller crew.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there was no the web. World Wide Web
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  Speaker 1: so it was really the newspaper that we were focused on.
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  Speaker 1: That that was it. You know, So our staff was
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  Speaker 1: really small. The whole overall organization staff going down to
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  Speaker 1: this was you know, my office or our room was
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  Speaker 1: right next to the owner room. So you'd walk out
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  Speaker 1: and say you need to take us to this party,
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  Speaker 1: like you could do anything. But the thing that I
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  Speaker 1: get screwed on is it like I worked in Boston.
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  Speaker 1: Back then there wasn't room at the stadium, so all
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  Speaker 1: my staff was in Boston, and when we went to
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  Speaker 1: have a hotel woman bring a guest for free. The
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• 1:12:28
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• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: you could have had your own room and all. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: it was a great memory, you know, like you it's
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  Speaker 1: in retrospect to you, I mean, I mean I think,
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  Speaker 1: of course you were kind of wide eyed and just
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  Speaker 1: happy to be there somewhat. But in contrast to the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: when you went to the sixth championship, it like like
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: it was, oh, it was so different, so different, just
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: like the old like we're almost yeah. Of course, I
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  Speaker 1: what we did in ninety six, like the whole television
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  Speaker 1: anything that just like wasn't that good? Is what does
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  Speaker 1: stranger things hot Take. The show should have ended after
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: season one. I think season two is average. It has
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  Speaker 1: good moments, but it's mostly a slog. Season three is
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  Speaker 1: just flat out bad. Season four was really good, but
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: the final episode felt like a reversion back to my
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  Speaker 1: least favorite part of season two and three. I understand
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  Speaker 1: with the hype and love of the show, there was
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  Speaker 1: no chance that Netflix would cancel it after season one,
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  Speaker 1: but narratively, it's apparent the Duffer brothers were struggling on
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  Speaker 1: where they would take the story. Seeah, like I like
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  Speaker 1: season three, I'm on a now rewatch Yeah, I mean too,
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  Speaker 1: me too with them all and see if they did
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  Speaker 1: it like season one just ended it. It kind of
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  Speaker 1: the thick of it right now. Season two and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, season three, Nope, it's done. Yeah. I think
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: every season has its moments or you know, just little
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  Speaker 1: things like for example, um, in the last season when
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: they go um and Dustin has like a hoodie with
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• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Red Don, which is one of my favorite movies. But
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  Speaker 1: just like a little detail like that that a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people wouldn't realize. But there's so much of that
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  Speaker 1: baked into throughout that some of you get, some you don't. Um,
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  Speaker 1: But I don't disagree with with some of the clunkiness
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  Speaker 1: it all makes sense. Now there was a plan from
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  Speaker 1: the beginning, and like we touched on at the top,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: like it does feel a little retroactively jiggered to oh,
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  Speaker 1: now it all makes sense. But you know, did they
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  Speaker 1: really know that? You know, I don't want to give
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  Speaker 1: you much away for people I haven't seen it, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I still have my questions.
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  Speaker 1: I think they I think, like I said, I think
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  Speaker 1: they've done a pretty good job tying up loose ends,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: making things consistent, making things make sense, you know, um continuity,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: making sure that you know, yeah, like you know that
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: contradicts something that happened in the past. I think they've
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: been very careful about that. What's like I think about
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: when I used to write screenplays, and it's such a
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: tedious process, and you know, the first draft is like
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: you just got to get it done, but then so
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: much of going back to it is like connecting those
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: threads or putting you know, foreshadowing things early on or later,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: and you wonder if the Duffer brothers could look at
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: this how much they Yeah, But even if they were
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: to now do a second draft of the series, so
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: to speak, like what would they have changed, you know,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: like what could they put in to kind of foreshadow
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: season four in season one or two, you know, subtle
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: nods to the power of the music or all those
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: things that kind of were revealed then, but you know,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: just things that would pay off. And you look back
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: when you're rewatch and you're like, oh my gosh, I
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: didn't even realize, but right there, you're foreshadowing this. And
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  Speaker 1: I know a lot of people on like TikTok are
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: going back like, well, if you go back and you
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: look at Billy, he like folds his arms a certain
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: way like one does in that. You know, I'm like, really, really,
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  Speaker 1: you think they were like fold your arms like this,
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, it's gonna it's gonna like the
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: hype's gonna die down though it's wrapped up, and then
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, every's gonna be super excited and
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  Speaker 1: it'll be over. That's what's so weird about TV and
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: stuff now though it's like like this show is so
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  Speaker 1: influential now on the music that we're listening on radio
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: and everything, and it's so big right now, and like
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  Speaker 1: you said, it's all of a sudden gonna die and
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: now there's gonna be some other show that that hopefully
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  Speaker 1: is you know, gets all that kind of attention, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's yeah, but that's the beauty of it. There's so
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  Speaker 1: many platforms now that there's places for everything, Like you're
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: not limited to certain channels or you know, like even
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  Speaker 1: when I was growing up, like you had your networks,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, HBO was happening and so that was
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: but now you have unlimited. Yeah, it's unlimited, and it's
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's so hard to break through the noise
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: and to get a hit like that, like I was
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: thinking of you know, who shot Jr? Or those like,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: you know, really huge moments in television history that just
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: reverberated across society and you know, and and and that's
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit what's happening now. But it's just it
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  Speaker 1: is hard to do because there's so many outlets and
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  Speaker 1: it's so hard to get everybody on the same page.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, I think that there's just an element
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  Speaker 1: in nostalgia in stranger things that you know, a lot
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: of people in our generation, it's like we're we're all
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: kind of spread out, but we all appreciate the eighties
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: and those movies and Star Wars and all that stuff
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: that it kind of kind of touches on. So yeah,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: I assume right now everybody in Hollywood is trying to
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: figure out how do we how do we do this?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Like how do you make something stand out like Stranger
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: Things to that transcends streaming and it's just a hit.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: It's a pure hit. Yeah, but it's it's good writing.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: You know, it's the right casting. You know, it's yeah,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: like Stranger you know, breaking bad. You know, you couldn't
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: have anything more different than Stranger Things, but like, it
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  Speaker 1: just resonated. It was just awesome. It's just so well done.
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  Speaker 1: You know, um Speeds and Fresno, what's up? Speed? Yeah,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: Stranger Spece is great. It's it's perfect combination of nostalgia
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: with great writing, great acting, and I'm with I'm with everything,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: and you guys were just saying it's um. To the
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: emailer's point, though, I do think the Duffer brothers kind
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: of had to figure out, you know what, how they
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: were going to continue, you know, it's it's kind of
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: like with the Matrix sequels. They had to pick up
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: and didn't really know that this thing was going to
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: explode as much as it did. What I thought they
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: should have done, even though I totally liked the entire show,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: what I thought they should have done was keep each
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: of these seasons in independent storyline, so kind of like
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: with American horror story Yeah true Detective too. Yep. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: upside Down could have worked until at the end of
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: the first season he vomits the worm or whatever from
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: you know, into in the stink and that's just that.
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  Speaker 1: Then that storyline just ends and so the next season
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  Speaker 1: is the same actors. Maybe you bring them back, but
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: it's a different, other sort of side of that parallel
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: universe to that one. Yeah, one way of doing it. Sorry, yeah, um,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I had a football one. Um. So, what do you
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: guys think about the super Bowl? The super Bowl, the
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: Bengals RMS super Bowl? Do you enjoy it? Yeah? Yeah,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: sure I did? Yeah like that, Yeah, whe's the Bengals
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  Speaker 1: pull up. I'm I'm I did enjoy the game, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm still disappointed with the way that it ended
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  Speaker 1: with that, you know, the the well on the third
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  Speaker 1: quarter with Tehagen's face masking Jalen Ramsey, and they didn't
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  Speaker 1: call it, and then then in the they like didn't
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: call any penalties the entire game until the Rams game
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: winning drive. That the whole thing and the interference that
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  Speaker 1: basically gave them the game as a makeup, it's one
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: of those degregious, disappointing makeup calls in history. Yeah, I
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: agree with that. Yeah, I kind of forgot all about that, honestly,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: you know, now that you're bringing it up, I remember,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: but like to me, even at the time, like it
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: didn't really ruin the game for me, Like you, I
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: guess I'm so conditioned to bad refereeing that, you know. Yeah,
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: it's just referee has been bad in all sports. Yea,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: right now, I've just kind of gotten used to it.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Local you thought it's been outstanding. That was particularly terrible.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: It totally ruined the game for me. I was having
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: such a great time and and then it just happened.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: I thought. But at first I thought the fix was in,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: But then later on, when when the t Higgins thing
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: came up, I was like, oh, yeah, that's what it was.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: But it's just it's pretty pretty I get it because
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: like there's two teams in LA, the Super Bowls in LA.
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: LA's playing in it, so it's kind of like, oh,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: this kind of all adds up. You want LA to win. Yeah,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: but I know it's so funny that like for like ever,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: no team had ever won a Super Bowl at all
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: back and now back to back. You know, thanks to
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  Speaker 1: be appreciate the call. Joe and Wark, New York. Um.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: I love the show, he says. I've heard it said
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: by coach Belichick that the best ability is availability. Here's
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  Speaker 1: a quick one question game. What do you think is
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: the best ability? He's got five of them. Capability, reliability, possibility, affordability,
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  Speaker 1: and pliability. I mean reliability just you know, you know
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  Speaker 1: you can count on a guy. I'd start with the
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  Speaker 1: first one. Capability. Yeah, Like, if you're not capable, then
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  Speaker 1: all the others don't matter, Right, you got to start playing? Yeah,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: you gotta start there. Yeah, availabilities key though, can't make
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  Speaker 1: the right at the top. But if you stink and
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  Speaker 1: you're available, what good is that? It's an unexpected twist
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  Speaker 1: to all the storylines that you spend all year kind
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: of formulating in your head of how it's going to
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: come together in camp, and then all of a sudden
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: somebody gets hurt and everything you talked about about a
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: certain player is just out the window, because you know,
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: especially with the rookies, like we talked to all with Harry,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much it really mattered that he
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: got hurt. Of course it set him back, but you know,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: would he have ultimately caught up. I don't. I don't
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: really think so. But you know, for those rookie guys
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: to not get the experience out of the gate, and
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: I think you see it sometimes, you know, kind of
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: linger into their early career that it's just it, it
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: really it hurts them. And you know that's again to
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: go back to Myers. You know, just a guy who's
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: been consistently out there and does it and you know
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: as it you know, Randy Moss out there. No but
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: he's out there and he's getting better every time. And
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: I think that that's worth a lot to them that
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: they know they can count on him, not only you know,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: to be there, but to know what to do and
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: to you know, when the ball is thrown to him,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: to make to make the play. Breton Toronto from two
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: thousand and three until now, so basically twenty years the
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: only wide receiver drafted by the Patriots which which has
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: over sixty career receptions for the team is Edelman with
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: six twenty. Next is Harry with fifty seven and Dobson
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: with fifty three. Absolutely terrible. Branch and Givens were before
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three. Yeah, and Doug touched a little
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: bit on that on this his PFF right up on
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: Harry too, And you know, I mean hopefully these changes
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: on offense are are geared towards that, because I mean,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: you hear enough about how hard it is to pick
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: up the system and all YadA, YadA, YadA, and I'm
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: sure you know not this isn't a dig at Josh.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: But it's just that Josh knew exactly what he was doing,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: and it was you had to get on his page,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: and you know, I respect that, But now it's you've
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: got a chance to hit the reset button a little bit.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: And I mean, this is the thing, clearly, you know,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: whether they're not drafting the right guys or whether they're
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: drafting the right guys, but they just can't learn the system.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: I think something had to change, you know, So hopefully
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: that equals more success. We'll see with Thornton. You know
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: how Eddie jumps number two on that list Thornton. I mean,
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 1: we'll see, We'll see. I mean it's a stack depth chart,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: and in a way, I don't I prefer this then
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: having to think about you know, if let's say Agelare
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: and Parker weren't here and you're like, we really need
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Thornton to be the outside guy. We need him to
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: step right in. I think that's a lot asking a
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: lot of a guy, and you know someone I think
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: that's what they did with Dobson and when he was
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: a rookie in twenty thirteen that you desperately needed, you know,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: to reinforce the receiver position you signed Amendola. You didn't
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: really know what you had with Edelman. You know, I
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: think he's in a good spot where the pressure isn't on,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: but but I'd still love to see him push the
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: envelope a little bit and make some plays that that
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: make you go, you know, I mean, train Nixon can
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: be out there in mini camp and make you know,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: two to three brilli beautiful downfield catches. I don't think
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: that would be asking too much of of Thornton in
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: this training camp that's coming up here in less than
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: two weeks. All right, we're gonna take a quick break,
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  Speaker 1: Talk about Drew Brees got me thinking, if you ignore longevity,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: how we your top twenty five QB rankings change? Are
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: there any quarterbacks who had a short but amazing career
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  Speaker 1: like Bo Jackson, but he wasn't a quarterback. The only
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  Speaker 1: one who comes to mind is Andrew Luck, but his
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  Speaker 1: per game stats are pretty similar to Drew Brees, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think either of them are in that upper echelant. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I thought it Torrell Davis too, That was another, but
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  Speaker 1: a quarterback position, Like I mean, if they're good, they
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  Speaker 1: lasted right, Yeah, because you don't get as hurt as much.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like look at I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: just we're talking about like Marcus Carson Palmer. Maybe the
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  Speaker 1: guys can continue to get chances, like if you can
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  Speaker 1: even like remotely play like luck is such a unique
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  Speaker 1: one because he was hurt so much and he had
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  Speaker 1: you know, he had to turn it up. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: even average kind of guys get three on a different team. Like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a great one. That's a great one. He lit
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  Speaker 1: up the league that first. That is a great one.
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  Speaker 1: YEA was that two thousand and twelve, which which which
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  Speaker 1: I think too we should tie it into like let's
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  Speaker 1: Let's throw injuries and also off field stuff. Michael Vick,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Vick, you know, right, Vie, And he came back
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  Speaker 1: it's a weird one, right, he had a very up
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  Speaker 1: and down career. Yeahs, I mean we talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame. A lot of people don't
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  Speaker 1: slam dunk if he had the good knees, you know, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think of anybody else off the top, Carson Palmer
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  Speaker 1: for the O three AFC Championship Game twenty four to
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  Speaker 1: Manning for the Patriots defense during practice. It was directly
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  Speaker 1: responsible for ty Love's three picks. At least that's what
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  Speaker 1: Three Games to Glory says, and good riddance on Harry.
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  Speaker 1: I tweeted Lombardi and asked him how that metcalf slash
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  Speaker 1: Harry evaluation was worth working out for him? No reply,
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  Speaker 1: But now I'm blocked. Oh the Scalabino, Yeah, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to miss the could they move him
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  Speaker 1: to tight end question? Every weekend? Yeah, every week It's
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  Speaker 1: best to just cut ties and move on. Yeah, it
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  Speaker 1: I'm struggling to come up with a good offseason question
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  Speaker 1: for you, So I'm going to circle back to one
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  Speaker 1: I asked three or four years ago. Uh, it was
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  Speaker 1: and wanted to get an updated opinion from Paul and
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  Speaker 1: also here Fred Deuce and Matissa's opinion. If the entire
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  Speaker 1: team was stranded on an island, who do you think
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  Speaker 1: would be the first one to float around the idea
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  Speaker 1: of cannibalism At the time, Paul's answer was Alan Branch.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he would do it. Shoot on, he'd
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  Speaker 1: be nice about it, y'all. Y'all I'm thinking about eating y'all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a good one. I mean definitely, uh, I mean
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  Speaker 1: definitely not Mac Mac guys, guys, come on, we gotta
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  Speaker 1: be friends. Maybe David Andrews. You know, I'm hungry, David Andrews.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good one. One of the big fatties, one
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: of the big fatties up front. Maybe those five guys.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: It tastes our five guys. Uh yeah, maybe like Carl Davis,
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  Speaker 1: like what are those under the radar? Kind of like
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: just guys that look like they're they they had that
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: in them. Maybe, if you know, if Gunner was still here,
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  Speaker 1: I'd say Gunner. He'd be the first one to be like,
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  Speaker 1: I and Trent Brown though, I mean like he's probably
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  Speaker 1: fegeed a lot of us, you know. Yeah, uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they'd want to eat Trent Brown. They eat the whole,
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  Speaker 1: you know. Tim Wrightson from South Carolina, I've been listening
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  Speaker 1: Roberta Okay, wow, Roberta. Also a question for everyone to discuss.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: Do you think the Patriots should have stayed where they
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: were in the first round of the draft and taking
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: a guy like McDuffie or even still made that trade
• 1:35:33
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• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: of Strange. Would love to hear your thoughts, because I
• 1:35:39
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  Speaker 1: I mean at the time I wanted I would want
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: I wanted one of those fast linebackers. I did, yeah,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: and then Ad didn't go. I mean, then you find
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: out Dean had injury issues, I kind of take him
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 1: out of the mix. But yeah, I would have liked
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: to keep mcduffey, especially went to a arrival. I think
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: McDuffie made the most sense. But at the same time,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: you know, size concerns and I don't think that he
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll see how he does in Kansas City.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: But I think, as I said in the radio show,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: just because they took Strange, there wasn't someone else that
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe they didn't take. I mean,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: we could maybe talk about Tamara's guy with Jermaine Johnson,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: which I think, you know, I might have gotten on
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: board with with that one. But it's hard. I mean,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: I think all those guys have do have some questions.
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: But I mean, just a guard that that's what I think.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: I mean. The hope is that you know, Strange is
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: just really solid, you know, like a Mankins, and it's like, Okay,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: it was a guard, but he's been on our team
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: for ten years and that was worth it. Yeah, you know,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: you know, but it's like and also too like you say, Mankins,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: Like Mankins had like a personality, like a like a snarliness.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: He was part of the team's identity, you know. And
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: as much as I think like Strange could step in
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: and be the starter there for ten years or whatever, like,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: I just hope that he's part of that kind of identity.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: Like you know, you're gonna have to be like well
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Man he said. I mean, you talk to Mankins about
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: the field, and he's as nice as some of that. Yeah,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Strange could be the same way. I just want to
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: see a little you know, I wouldn't be I wouldn't
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: be upset with did you say it on the air
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: about Mankins punching the guy? Yeah, you know, like I
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be opposed to something like that, you know, just
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: somebody who has that, yeah, you know, like I mean,
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: and we we kind of saw it a little bit
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: with with Judeon and Mini Camp when you know, Strange
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: came running over. I mean, I think he'd be the
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: classic guy that's kind of aw shucks off the field
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: and then you know, once it's game time, right, just
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: pain in the butt, a little throwing, little extra business
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: here and there. But I'd like to see that out
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: of him. I want to see some kind of you know,
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: presence that that it's not just okay, he's a solid
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: left guard. He's a he's a tough so ob. You
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: know that other teams are gonna be like, oh man,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: with this guy's going to be a dog fight for
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: the full sixty minutes. Justin writes in from Alabama. Um,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: what would I do without you guys? You all have
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: been my ear since the season Brady left. Wish I
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: would have started listening earlier. Hate that I missed out
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: on Andy. My question today for y'all is what would
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: you be doing if you had not gotten into sports?
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: Still be Patriots fans, but made a different career choice.
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: I hate that I missed Paul because I love to
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: hear his take. Hope you guys have a great weekend
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: looking forward to camp. What would we be doing if
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: we didn't get into sports? I always said I would
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: love to have been writing comedy for you know, even
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: though yeah, I'll say I'm not funny. Well yeah, I
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: mean as I said before, usually the comedy writers are
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: like the depressed, morose ones, and drama writers are like
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: really friendly and funny. I don't know, I mean, I
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: gave the whole Hollywood thing a try. I got burned
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: out on that though, So that was my start. Maybe
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: if I'd had more success than that, I would have
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: stuck with it, but I never really felt like I
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: loved it. I remember going to Emerson, you know, and
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: that was like all about TV production and writing and
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. Everybody there was there with a purpose,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: and they're telling us that, like the writers for Cheers
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: made seventy grand an episode an episode. I was thinking
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: probably coaching or teaching, but you know, I just wanted
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: to do sports, So yeah, I could say coaching. I
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: really enjoy coaching, Like having the limited experience I've had coaching,
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: I mean I love coaches in general. But yeah, that's
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: it's definitely very challenging and also, you know, very satisfying
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: in certain ways to the sport you love, you know, yeah, yeah,
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: and just working with kids, and I mean that's what
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: I like about refing, you know, just passing the legacy
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: of the game on and seeing the next generation come
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: up and excel, and you know, the excitement that continues
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: to get regenerated for the sport with these coaching before
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: they get the attitude too That's why I love Peewees.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: That's twelve and under. Give me the twelve one unders
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: all day long. They haven't they know, they know how
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: to play the game. They're not little punks yet and
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: it's just you know, they play it kind of the
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: way I think it's supposed to be played. Yet, um,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: you mean skating with a chair in front of the
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: Pewees are about eleven and ten? N Okay? Yeah, Mark
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: in the UK writes and as you as you are,
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: like myself a man of more senior years, Fred, your
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: memory may not recall what I'm about to tell you.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: Paul certainly won't remember, as it doesn't involve a pre
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: dynastic random Patriots game. Back in late September two thousand
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: and nine, my wife and I attended our first game
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: at Gillette to see the Patriots beat the Falcons. The
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: following week, you kindly allowed me to come into the
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: studio as a guest for an episode of what was
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: then PFW Progress. Most of the talk whilst I was
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: there was about the patriots upcoming trip to London to
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: play the Buccaneers. However, we also talked about soap with
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: a slot back in oh nine, so talking about as
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: the previous night, my wife and I had stayed at
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: the Hotel Buckminster, having been to Fenway for a Red
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: Sox game. In the bathroom of our room, I was
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: confronted with the holy Grail of soap with a slot.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: Knowing that I would be seeing you the following day,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: immediately put it somewhere safe to bring along in the show,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: which I duly did. I still have it as a
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: momentum of that trip, along with other items gathered on
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: subsequent visits to Foxborough with my UK friends. I have
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: attached a couple of photos showing the soap itself and
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: the box that came in with the explanation on the
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: side describing your idea. I must say that the actual
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: bar seems to be more slot than soap. I can
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: confirm that you are perfectly safe opening the photo attachments.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that I may be able to get back
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: to Jelette again this September with some friends for the
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: Ravens game. In the meantime, keep doing what you do,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: especially those offseason shows. Your idea does exist, and he's
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: got a picture of it. It's really it looks more
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: like a donut with like he said, it's mostly whole,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: so I don't know like how this would work with
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: the other soap. It's too the hole's too big. I
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: just realized, Fred, you probably have a lot of respect
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: for this. The guy who came up with soap on
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: a rope? Huh, Like a guy that changed the soap game.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: First guy who changed the soap game, Soap on a rope? Guy? Like, Well,
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: we used to have a thing back when we first started.
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: It was, you know, we'd bring in new people. We said, well,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: you know, part of the hazing or the you know,
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: uh indoctrination is you have to take a shower with
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: Bruce Armstrong and soap him up. So and we have
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: one kid like he's buying it. It's like, all right,
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: I can have soft hands. Yeah. Uh, let's see what
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: else we got. Um Reno writes in who are your
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: top five most important or best players going into the
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season? If you had to say, now,
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: who gets extended? Who would it be? You know who
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: gets extended first? Would it be Barmore or Mac? Also
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: shut out to my new favorite member Alex. Haven't had
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: a favorite since Andy left. Well she's not here today,
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: but anyway, two questions five most important or best players
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: going into the season, Macs number one, Macks number one,
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: DeVante Parker's number two, Barmore's number three. For me, I
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: would have Jude on up there. I think Kendrick Boorne, Okay,
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: I could say I mean honestly, I would just say
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 1: one of the receivers, like one of them has to,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: you know, take take a little bittorn. Yeah, Born and Parker,
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: Um couple on the corners down there. Yeah, you got
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: to pick a corner. I don't know, And I'm tempted
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: by by Ray Kawan McMillan. Just you know a guy
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: that might come in and really play a huge role. Um,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: there's a lot. I mean, I think there's a lot
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: of guy. It's hard to boiler. Who's your Cinderella, Who's
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: your sleeper? Who's the guy that you know we're hoping,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: you know, has a great season and actually will, but
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: we don't know, we have no idea. Um, I don't
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: know if he's a sleeper. But I one guy that
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: I just would throw out there is um is Henry Anderson.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: I know we didn't see much out of him, lad
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: one Um and he was kind of on the bubble
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: I think when when when Coutt's happened, he got hurt
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: and we didn't really get to see him. But I
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 1: think in the defensive line group, there's just not really
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: any new pieces other than Sam Roberts and Lebrian Ray.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: So I could maybe there's some some potential there with Henrews.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: He's had a couple of good years with the Jets.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: I know he's a big, tough guy, and I mean
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: I think he's kind of what they need. I don't
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: know for sure though, he could end up cut, but
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: I'm a little bit intrigued just by his return. And
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: you know something that he could offer to this. I
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: think it's Miles Bryant or Butler. I just I need
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: one of the owners to step up, like I know
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 1: I want. Mine is Pat mcgron. I mean, yeah, yeah,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, if cam mcgroan comes in and
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: beats out McMillan and mac wilson and you know it
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: is suddenly getting run, I mean, it'd be huge. You'd
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 1: see it to be kind of meteoric. I don't really
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: expect it. I expect to see I expect Wilson and
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: McMillan to be kind of the two guys with with
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: Jawan Bentley and then the and who gets extended first,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: Barmore or Mac Jones. I think it's tough. I mean
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: if they both do they both do? I mean I
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: think baros an easier Conn. No, I think it's Mac Jones.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 1: You got to get that quarterback early. I agree. I
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: just think there's more paperwork with the quarterbacks. You just
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: don't know how the market's gonna be. Yeah, it's tough.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: I mean i'd like to say Mac, but I mean
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: there is a feeling and maybe they could get Barmore,
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: But Barmore feels like the kind of guy who's going
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: to be keenly aware of his standing. Just he gets
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of hype and there's not a lot of
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: guys getting hype on his team right now. And I
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: think he's won that, especially if he has a great
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: year this year, that's he's People are gonna know who
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: he is and with his skill set. I mean it's
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: hard to pry a quarterback from a team. But but
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: a defensive lineman like that, I mean, I know if
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: I was elsewhere and saw that guy available, I'd go
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: I'd go all into try to get them. Oh yeah,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: But it's hard because they haven't extended a lot of guys,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: like what Adrian Phillips was that the last one? I
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: mean there's you know, there's just not well lately, there
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of you. I mean, I know,
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: a free agency and you bring mcportey back for a
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: couple more. I mean, you know there are guys that
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: they bring back, but guys that they proactively extend right
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: before their contract. I mean that list is I'm thinking
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: fifth year option. They've picked up Jonathan Jones a couple
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 1: of years ago, Shack Mason a couple of years ago. Yeah. Uh,
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: David and Maine writes in uh, I want to add
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: my two cents to the Patriot Place discussion. My buddies
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: and I were impressed with Wormtown Brewery at Patriot Place.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Plenty of open space inside and some great october Fest
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: style beers would be happy shout out where we had
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: a Cecily's Yeah, Sionara, that was a really good. Uh,
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: of course there's cbscne Um. I've never been in there. Actually. Yeah,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: they've got a huge TV, huge, a lot of big
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: TVs in this place. Yeah, he gonna get another big
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: one too. Um, let's see there was one I wanted
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: to oh, Neil writes in um he says, I haven't
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: written in in a while, but the following proves I've
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: been listening. One glad to see the end of soap talk.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: Well you haven't seen it too. As a Canadian, I
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: can confirm number four Bobby or is revered as an
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: all time great Canadian hockey player Parry Sound, Ontario. I
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: mean he's from Canada, so yes, they do have some claim.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: And three Matt Jones's girlfriend seems very sweet and beautiful.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: I hope he sticks with her and stays away from
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: the moms. Like du said, boring is good. I love boring. Yeah,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: she's you know, seems very sweet, just like your classic
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: kind of Alabama Southern Drew Bledsoe. You know he married
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: his high school sweetheart Mara. Yeah, keep it simple. Yeah.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: My question builds on the butterfly effect hypothetical questions. What
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: if instead of picking the kill Harry in nineteen Bill
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: chose one of the following that were picked after him, Deebo,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: Samuel A. J. Brown, McLaurin or DK Metcalf. How are
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: things different today? For example, is Brady still our quarterback?
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: Do we make it to the Super Bowl in nineteen.
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: Every team makes draft mistakes, but it feels like this
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: one's set in motion a lot of future problems we're
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: touching on. Paul asked that earlier, would Brady have still
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: stayed if they had Deebo Samuel or DK Metcalf watching
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: the man in the arena, it just he just seemed
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: like he was burnt out, just you know, kind of
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: seemed to let it out. I don't know, Yeah, I
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: agree with that. I've caught a few of the twenty
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: nineteen games that have been on over the last couple
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: of years, a couple of weeks. I don't know that
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: I've caught a couple, but I don't know. They just
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: looks something off to me about Brady compared to what
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: I see him at Tampa now, Like I feel that
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: like dissatisfied action. But I think it's a good question.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: I just wonder if it's enough, Like, you know, even
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: if A. J. Brown was drafted, came in had a
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: really good rookie year, Let's say, you know, whatever, Deon
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 1: Branches rookie, you know, he had a solid rookie year
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: in two thousand and two. Is it enough? Is it
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: enough to keep him her? Is it enough to make
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: him happy if he's still throwing them Matt Lacosse and
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Ryan Izzo at tight end and you know all the
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: other like the Mohammed Sanu thing. Like it's just that's
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: why I like, you know, when I look at the
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: depth chart compared to that season, it's like, how can
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: you not look at two twenty twenty two and feel
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: this what you and I feel Fred at least a
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: sense of all right, there's something to work with him.
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: You look at that depth chart in twenty nineteen, there's nothing,
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: there's nothing there, and you had to go get Mohammed
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: Sanu who gave you nothing too. That was a desperation trade,
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 1: you know. So I you know, and that you know,
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: this all goes back to why I quote unquote hey Brady,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: But it's like what was there for him? Like even
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: was Aj Brown enough? When I don't know, I mean,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: how how could Aj Brown have even you know, been
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: successful here without a Derrick Henry type running back to
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: kind of help Like he would have been the only
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: thing here. I mean him and Edelman with one leg
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: for what three weeks and then that was it? You know?
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 1: So I mean it's it's fun to play what if
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: you know? And that's even before you get to would
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: these guys even still be here? I mean, debot, you
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: got it? You were they ready to pony ump after
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: year three with these guys as well, and we just
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 1: got done talking about how they don't. They haven't really
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: extended anyone, So it's certainly not an easy, easy projection.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: Pat and aguam right said, praise Jesus Harry's gone. Seriously, though,
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: I wish nothing but the best for the kid, hopefully
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: makes something of his career in Chicago. I wanted to
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 1: also give kudos to Paul for a great article on
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: making the case for Craft for the Hall of Fame.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: One deserves to be in there. And one final thing,
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: I love Kate Bush, but if you get a chance,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: check out a cover of Running Up That Hill from
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  Speaker 1: an artist called Meg Myers from a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 1: She absolutely crushes it. Okay, I mean cover two. What
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  Speaker 1: does that have to do with Stranger Things? Though? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: same song? I don't know. Um, let's see. Matt writes
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  Speaker 1: in was wondering if Paul or any of you can
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  Speaker 1: help me out. We all know Paul's take on the
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  Speaker 1: cap being crap. But I don't understand when he says
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  Speaker 1: it's about the owner paying the money in it not
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  Speaker 1: being the cap. I was on the understanding that you
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  Speaker 1: had the yearly salary which goes against that year's cap,
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  Speaker 1: and you can pay a signing bonus that gets spread
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  Speaker 1: evenly through the years of the deal, so it will
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  Speaker 1: still count against the cap. That is all true. I
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  Speaker 1: think what Paul is talking about is it's cash spent,
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  Speaker 1: so like guaranteed money. Yeah, it's it's the initial outlay
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  Speaker 1: and the initial outlay, like even if it's spread out,
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  Speaker 1: like there's a certain amount of money that has to
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  Speaker 1: be paid in full to the player, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: guarante and the guarantee money. And some owners have more
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  Speaker 1: fluidity there, you know, to be able to do that,
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  Speaker 1: and you still have to fit under the cap eventually,
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  Speaker 1: but you can just keep pushing it out, pushing it out,
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  Speaker 1: pushing it out. I forget what the number was the
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed money they gave out last offseason. I want to
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  Speaker 1: say one hundred and fifty maybe like somewhere maybe in
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  Speaker 1: that ballpark. And I mean, and then I tallied up
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  Speaker 1: this year twenty seven, you know, twenty seven. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that's the contrast of how different the two different free
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  Speaker 1: agent classes were. I mean, yeah, not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: guaranteed money, but I mean there's just there's always ways
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  Speaker 1: around it. I think that's like, you know, the cap
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  Speaker 1: is crap stuff. It's it's certainly a parameter and it's
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  Speaker 1: something that you have to consider, right, but there are
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  Speaker 1: ways around it if you're willing to, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: kick some money down the road. Yeah, it's definitely of
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  Speaker 1: the major sports, well, baseball really doesn't have a cap,
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  Speaker 1: they just have the luxury tax. But of the sports
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  Speaker 1: that have caps, Football's a is the loosest. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can maneuver more, but you still have to make decisions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so it's not totally crap. It forces you
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  Speaker 1: to make decisions, right, you can make there's options if
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  Speaker 1: you like Paulse's if you really want a guy, you
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  Speaker 1: can figure it out. You can, but you have to
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  Speaker 1: figure it out, that's the point. And you gotta be
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  Speaker 1: willing to maybe do some things that you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to do in terms of finances down the road. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, i mean, let's talk in twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: when there's still a dead cap, hit for Devin mccordy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like those are the things that they're doing
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  Speaker 1: to get around some of the cap. But I just think, like,
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  Speaker 1: as I said, the kap of crap. It's a cute
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: you know, hey, it rhymes, but it's well, I think
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  Speaker 1: it's lazy. I think it's code for you whatever you want,
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  Speaker 1: your owner's cheap, you know, um, you know, And I
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  Speaker 1: do think that some times, you know, teams will use
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  Speaker 1: the cap as a crutch. You know, we we you know,
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  Speaker 1: we had cap problems, Like Paul says, if you really
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  Speaker 1: wanted the guy, you could have, but he wasn't worth
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't worth us figuring it out, you know, And
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  Speaker 1: so it I guess it's semantics, but it's it's not
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  Speaker 1: totally crap. It forces you to have to make decisions.
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  Speaker 1: He says. I'm not against how the Rams do business,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't understand how they can have one of
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  Speaker 1: the highest paid quarterbacks, the highest paid non quarterback, and
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  Speaker 1: also one of the highest paid wide receivers and cornerbacks
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  Speaker 1: while still paying the rest of their team when other
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  Speaker 1: teams with a lot lesser player in contracts can't. Is
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  Speaker 1: there another way to pay players that doesn't count against
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: the cap. Well, at the end of the day, you know,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: you have to look at all their salaries and you
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  Speaker 1: know it fits as they figured out how to make
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  Speaker 1: it fit. So there's probably a lot of guys on
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: the team that aren't making even middle class salaries, right,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, or they're just on their rookie deals
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  Speaker 1: and they drafted well and they've got guys that actually play.
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  Speaker 1: For examples, the Seahawks Legion of Boom, like you hit,
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  Speaker 1: you built that whole team through drafting and then right,
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  Speaker 1: looks what happened out to twenty fourteen. They just fell apart.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: You're gonna keep everybody happy, right, There comes a time
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  Speaker 1: in September, just before the season where every team has
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  Speaker 1: to be under the cap. League said, I don't care
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  Speaker 1: how you do it. You can structure your contracts anyway,
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: do whatever you want, spread it out, but at this
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: date you have to be under the cap. And there's
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  Speaker 1: no way and that in that there's no wiggle role.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: You know. The Falcons last year, right, wasn't it Julio.
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  Speaker 1: They couldn't sign Kyle Pits until they got rid of
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  Speaker 1: Julio because of the calf issues. Right, so they had
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  Speaker 1: to make a decision. Yeah. I mean the same thing
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  Speaker 1: with the Patriots right now, where they're like, I know,
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  Speaker 1: up against it with cap space and I think Carry
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  Speaker 1: opened up a million, and you know, but it ultimately
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But I just I don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: that complicated draft. Well, you know, if you draft, well,
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  Speaker 1: you'll have money elsewhere to spend. If you're able to
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: play third fourth round picks on that salary and they're
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: playing significant roles for you, You've got money to keep
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald and to keep Cooper Cup and to go
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: out and get Matthew Stafford. You know that. That's what
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: it is. It's a draft, and it's the same reason
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: why the Patriots have kind of had a down period
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 1: right now. We're talking earlier about quarterbacks who maybe would
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: have been good if they Tony says Burt Jones. Remember
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: him with the Colts. I don't remember. You know, Belichick
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  Speaker 1: I think was a big Burt Jones fan. I think
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: I remember him talking about, yeah, all right, we're gonna
• 1:55:01
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