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2 Chainz on Biggest Wins & Losses, Million-Dollar Independent Grind & SpaceX Investment · Earn Your Leisure

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  Speaker 1: All right, e y l We're back special episode. We
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  Speaker 1: got the Good Brother. Two chains in the building and
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  Speaker 1: Tony Man. I ain't know he was doing this, man, Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know I would have came. I would have came.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was just you know, we got the
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  Speaker 1: book coming out. I ain't know what he was.
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  Speaker 2: Doing putting that energy out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, jumping and play a partner partner.
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  Speaker 2: No, man, it's cool. It's cold.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in We're in New York, so I could just
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  Speaker 4: paint the picture for the internet, those who are watching.
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  Speaker 4: We're in New York. I think the lower in his teens,
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  Speaker 4: highs in its upper twenties or something. I'm from the
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  Speaker 4: lane tip, y'all don't know. I'm from the South, so
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  Speaker 4: it's it's extremely cold to me. And then when you
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  Speaker 4: have a when you have a fit like this, it's
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  Speaker 4: not too many places you can wear.
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  Speaker 2: That's a fa.
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  Speaker 4: When you see something say twenty three degree, grab, grab
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  Speaker 4: my hat.
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  Speaker 5: Hat, boots, pan out so we can see. We got
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  Speaker 5: to get the boots, can we see?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Bo, that's the shot.
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  Speaker 1: Well, first and foremost, congratulations, my brother, thank you, we
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  Speaker 1: got the book. This is uh the voice in my
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  Speaker 1: head is God, so we're gonna talk about this. I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad to see it come to fruition because you did
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  Speaker 1: invest fast for us last year. Thank you for doing that.
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  Speaker 1: And I was talking to Tech, your manager about the
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  Speaker 1: book last year last summer, so I know how long
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  Speaker 1: these book cycles work. So to see it come to fruition, now,
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  Speaker 1: how does this make you feel?
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  Speaker 2: Just eager?
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  Speaker 4: You know, it feels like an album, even the rollout,
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  Speaker 4: what I'm doing, different podcasts, different interviews. You know, the
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  Speaker 4: subject that I'm touching on, maybe new to a fan
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  Speaker 4: of mine. Some of this the material in the book
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  Speaker 4: I haven't discussed and uh in music or in interviews,
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  Speaker 4: but just the release, knowing that it's here, just I'm
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  Speaker 4: just seeing. I'm excited for people to not only read
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  Speaker 4: the book, but to to check out the audio book
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  Speaker 4: because I'm a I'm I'm a great reader.
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  Speaker 3: You read it, yeah, I read it.
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  Speaker 2: That's hard. And then I also added production like a
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  Speaker 2: score to it.
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  Speaker 4: Right mm, So when I'm reading these certain scenes, you
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  Speaker 4: able to feel the actual scene is very cinematic because
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  Speaker 4: I have the sound effects of what's going on during
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  Speaker 4: the different scenes. So I I'm excited about the audio book,
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  Speaker 4: but it's a good read.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I say the the clip dropped earlier with the
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  Speaker 5: the the cartoon uh of you at the All Star
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  Speaker 5: Game out though this is dope.
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  Speaker 3: This is exactly what it should be.
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  Speaker 2: MM.
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  Speaker 5: I wanted as you went into the process, obviously you've
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  Speaker 5: put out album before you compared it to the rollout?
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  Speaker 3: What was it like?
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  Speaker 5: Oh, why that wasn't necessary to put out literature at
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  Speaker 5: this point?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Like we know the legendary music career. Why literature right now?
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  Speaker 4: I I said this previously, but I think growth without
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  Speaker 4: reflection is just noise. Just keep growing, so you have to.
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  Speaker 4: For me, this book is about me reflecting. It's about
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  Speaker 4: me giving myself grace, acknowledging my longevity, acknowledging the things
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  Speaker 4: that I did that I did right.
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  Speaker 2: It's not.
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  Speaker 4: So much about me pivoting away from anything. It's just
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  Speaker 4: about me being more intent in this stage of my career.
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  Speaker 4: Me putting out you know, musical compositions, me even putting
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  Speaker 4: out a short feelm So literature was another uh, creative
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  Speaker 4: risk that I wanted to take to express myself.
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  Speaker 2: But to also I I.
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  Speaker 4: Look at it like, uh, my way of giving back
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  Speaker 4: to my community, right because hear me out. This voice
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  Speaker 4: in my head is God. It's a real thing to me,
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  Speaker 4: to me personally, It's the reason why I'm sitting right
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  Speaker 4: here where I am now. I feel like my consciousness
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  Speaker 4: led to my success. Me listening to the voice when
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  Speaker 4: it told me to do certain things led me to
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  Speaker 4: a successful place. So this is a book that I
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  Speaker 4: I could not wrote this book when I was twenty
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  Speaker 4: or a teenager. I had to r truly go through
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  Speaker 4: different experiences. I had to win some enough to get
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  Speaker 4: the wisdom, and I had to lose some, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: So this book is it's it h It.
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  Speaker 4: Humanizes me and I'm excited to put some literature out
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  Speaker 4: so people can really see how I think and why
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  Speaker 4: I moved to where I move.
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  Speaker 1: Heard that before, somebody said that your intuition is God's.
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  Speaker 1: Is God whispering to you man like? So I'm assuming
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  Speaker 1: that we're.
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  Speaker 4: On the same people. That's it, bro, That's that's I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we could. I don't want to end it right here,
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  Speaker 4: but we could. I've really been I've been on that.
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  Speaker 4: I've been using my intuition as sort of a navigational
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  Speaker 4: tool for a very long time, and I look at
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  Speaker 4: intuition like a sixth sense as as you know, I
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  Speaker 4: look at it like once you really tap into this
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  Speaker 4: and believe because right' it's you believe in and you're
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  Speaker 4: listening to something that that can't nobody else here it's
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  Speaker 4: trying to warn you about something that you something that
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  Speaker 4: you can't see. It's a lot of what else and
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  Speaker 4: what end and question marks. So the average person don't
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  Speaker 4: got time to sit back and even deal with that
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  Speaker 4: inner monologue or that divine divine guidance is I.
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  Speaker 2: Like to call it. I'm here to tell you that.
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  Speaker 4: My divine guidance has helped me make business decisions, properties
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  Speaker 4: and different in certain locations. Man, my divine guidance has
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  Speaker 4: helped me do everything from a large scale to a
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  Speaker 4: small scale. So this book is like something I'm giving
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  Speaker 4: back to my community on trying to trying to motivate
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  Speaker 4: them to tap in and the listener what they have
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  Speaker 4: inside of.
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  Speaker 5: Them into intuition, setting in like Stee's vision when you
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  Speaker 5: said that's what you think? Was there a moment or
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  Speaker 5: a series of moments when it came to you like, Yo,
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  Speaker 5: this is God talking. He's using me right, giving me
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  Speaker 5: the footsteps that I just gotta follow the path. Or
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  Speaker 5: was it like a specific moment at time and you're like, yo,
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  Speaker 5: this this, this is something happening here right like cause
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  Speaker 5: you said you couldn't have done it in your early twenties,
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  Speaker 5: you couldn't done your thelies it had to be in
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  Speaker 5: this Was it compounding or.
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  Speaker 3: Was it just like a specific time?
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  Speaker 2: So you know, they came to me, would you like
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  Speaker 2: to write a book?
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  Speaker 4: At that moment when the approached me about writing a book,
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  Speaker 4: I have so many levels and different ideas that I
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  Speaker 4: thought I could tap into. I see artists do autobiographies
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  Speaker 4: all the time, so I didn't want to do but
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  Speaker 4: I see a lot of people were doing. So when
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  Speaker 4: it came about this book, I started thinking about a
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  Speaker 4: lot of my journey, a lot of stuff that I've
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  Speaker 4: been through, and all of it kind of funneled back
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  Speaker 4: to this voice saying, man, something told me don't even
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  Speaker 4: go over there, or something told me to go over there,
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  Speaker 4: And so it was something that I would not aware
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  Speaker 4: of early on, but when I thought about these stories
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  Speaker 4: that I'm talking about in the book, it was something
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  Speaker 4: that told me to either do it or don't do it.
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  Speaker 4: And when I look at the outcome. I gathered all
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  Speaker 4: the data, my personal data, and I realized that when
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  Speaker 4: I listen to this voice, and the voice comes to
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  Speaker 4: me out of love, because that's what God is. It's
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  Speaker 4: a blessing from within. And all I got to do
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  Speaker 4: is be patient and wait to see what that is.
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  Speaker 4: And so then it became time to glue at it together,
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  Speaker 4: like how does this add bag to this and how
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  Speaker 4: does this make sense? And that was the kind of
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  Speaker 4: the fun part for me too, because it was just like,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, ma'am. It's just for this right here.
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  Speaker 4: I think I'm being very, very vulnerable. But at the
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  Speaker 4: same time it's therapeutic for me because I'm able to
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  Speaker 4: get out some of these stories that I have been
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  Speaker 4: having bottled up. But I'm also able to discuss with
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  Speaker 4: my fans, fans, old fans, whoever that that is into
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  Speaker 4: reading or into intuition what this has done for me.
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  Speaker 4: I really believe like this is a superpower. I can
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  Speaker 4: really I can really feel eyes, I can feel with
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  Speaker 4: somebody looking at me from down there. I can really like,
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  Speaker 4: I think women are superheroes. These are just some chapters
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  Speaker 4: that I'm ringing off off the top of my head
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  Speaker 4: that's in the book. All this stuff is very relative
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  Speaker 4: to what I have going on in my life.
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  Speaker 2: So some experts some excerpts from the book.
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  Speaker 1: Your mom was a loan officer, Yeah, right, state real
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  Speaker 1: estate loan officer. So how did that exposure to real
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  Speaker 1: estate early kind of shape your mindset on owning real estate?
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  Speaker 2: I know, real estate?
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, I mean, you know at the time,
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  Speaker 4: it's I mean, it just lets you know what you're around.
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  Speaker 4: Like my mama did real estate. My daddy hustle. I
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  Speaker 4: did both. I did both. It was almost like it
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  Speaker 4: was hereditary, right, my mom, I did I did both.
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  Speaker 4: I did both, just like I think you.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of do.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what you're around or what you see
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  Speaker 4: all stuff Like my mama not necessarily taking me to
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  Speaker 4: work every day, but she coming home with them big old,
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  Speaker 4: big Manila folders, the big loan manilla folders with the
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  Speaker 4: yellow stuff marked on, you know, separating the paperwork and
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  Speaker 4: this long paperwork, long paperwork, you know. And I hear appraisals,
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  Speaker 4: and I hear you know, certain words I've been hearing
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  Speaker 4: a long time about properties, and and and she's from
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  Speaker 4: an area where they manipulate a lot of the paperwork,
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  Speaker 4: you know people. She later told me that in order
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  Speaker 4: to get this one job, because you know, I'm writing
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  Speaker 4: this short fem Red Clay, and it's, uh, it's about
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  Speaker 4: my life as well, non fiction. But you know, I
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  Speaker 4: was having these questions about like I remember standing these
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  Speaker 4: apartments like like most of my life, and then all
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  Speaker 4: of a sudden, we just got a house.
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  Speaker 2: And I never knew why. I said, Mama, how we
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  Speaker 2: get the house?
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  Speaker 4: And she said that in order to get this when
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  Speaker 4: she got hired at this real estate company, they made
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  Speaker 4: her get the house. That was like she had to
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  Speaker 4: get the house so they can work up move and
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  Speaker 4: take some money off the property. So I'm like, cause
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  Speaker 4: you know, we didn't have power. It just almost didn't
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  Speaker 4: make sense. We had a house. Book sometimes like this
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  Speaker 4: long extension cord going to the neighbor's house in the back,
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  Speaker 4: like a long downhill. Very embarrassing, very very embarrassing, nothing
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  Speaker 4: cool to even talk. I don't even think I'll talk
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  Speaker 4: about it in my book, but just an extension cord.
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  Speaker 4: And but we had a house, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, so early on there was a lot of
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  Speaker 4: manipulation in that in real estate and then my dad,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, was a hustle. So I think just
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  Speaker 4: being in that environment like really the cliche product of
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  Speaker 4: your environment.
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  Speaker 5: You talk about betting on yourself inside the book as well,
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  Speaker 5: we knew Duffel back Boy, but before that it was
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  Speaker 5: the shoebox Mattress kings right, So talk about the idea
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  Speaker 5: of buying yourself out of your record contract, having that
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  Speaker 5: hundred thousand and saying, look, I'm gonna listen to this
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  Speaker 5: voice again and I'm gonna better myself and see where
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  Speaker 5: it takes me.
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  Speaker 4: I was just about to say something told me to
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  Speaker 4: do that, something told me to like it was time
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  Speaker 4: for me to become my own entity, my own person,
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  Speaker 4: my own I feel like everything happens for a reason.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, before I got to where I was,
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  Speaker 4: I think the natural the courses that I went through,
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  Speaker 4: because I can get in any room and I'll learn
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  Speaker 4: from anybody. I'm not someone that feels like I know
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  Speaker 4: all the information or and I'm not somebody that feels
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  Speaker 4: like I can't learn from somebody that is beneath me.
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I don't have as as ah as much money as
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  Speaker 4: I I'm not wanted. I'm not like ignorant. I think
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  Speaker 4: you can learn from a smoker. I think you can
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  Speaker 4: learn from somebody that is a janitor in a babr
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  Speaker 4: I I don't look at people, so you know, for
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  Speaker 4: the most part that situation something I a voice told
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  Speaker 4: me that it was time for me to move on,
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  Speaker 4: move on with my life and see what else. And
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  Speaker 4: that's another situation of me living a situ leaving a
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  Speaker 4: situation that's right here in front of me.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty cool. It's nothing.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's not moving as fast as I wanted to,
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  Speaker 4: but it's something telling me, like, lead this situation. I
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  Speaker 4: got something better for you around the corner. I can't
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  Speaker 4: see around the corner, but I just have to take
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  Speaker 4: that and believe it.
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  Speaker 3: What what what stage of the career is this? That boy?
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  Speaker 4: This is when I'm leaving the stage. You to mind
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  Speaker 4: when I became a solo artist, when I live. When
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  Speaker 4: I became a solo artist, I literally woke up one day.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't like a bunch of like I'm considering doing this.
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  Speaker 4: I really woke up one day and made a phone call.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, you said, I don't wanna do this. I wanna
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  Speaker 2: be by myself and.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, sound thou the story of a hundred thousand
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  Speaker 1: You literally took a hundred thousand dollars to the reculation.
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  Speaker 2: So nah, So.
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  Speaker 4: I was with uh the the the previous company, and
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  Speaker 4: they told me because at this at this point of
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  Speaker 4: my career, I'm not even really like contract savvy.
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  Speaker 3: MM.
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  Speaker 4: I know I've been in this situation for it seems
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  Speaker 4: like a long time, but I don't know how long
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  Speaker 4: a long time me is Contractually. They're just telling me
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  Speaker 4: that in order for for me to god deal. They
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  Speaker 4: just telling me before even Lloyd's get involved, and man,
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be I don't know if he was trying
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  Speaker 4: to run me off, scare me on, whatever was trying
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  Speaker 4: to do, but it was like, you know, you give
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  Speaker 4: me a hundred thousand and some points or whatever you
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  Speaker 4: can get out of this situation. But at this time,
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  Speaker 4: I had been doing shows in the circuit, in the
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  Speaker 4: Chiling circuit, and I had about around that much, and
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  Speaker 4: I was willing to go to zero because I could
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  Speaker 4: already see dates on my calendar where I was gonna
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  Speaker 4: run the money back up anyway. I could literally it
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  Speaker 4: used to be a time where I could literally like
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  Speaker 4: count how much revenue I was making the much, especially
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  Speaker 4: out of Chiling Circuit when we was doing those.
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  Speaker 2: The Chipland circuit.
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  Speaker 1: How did that cause we We went to Tyler Perry
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  Speaker 1: and he was saying, like, I mean, he pretty much
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  Speaker 1: built his whole career of Chitland circuit, so we only
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  Speaker 1: had too much of that turn.
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  Speaker 4: You man, it's a rich brother, it's a rich folks
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  Speaker 4: down or that man. And when we said the Chilling Circuit,
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  Speaker 4: we mean the lower South, Memphis, the Carolinas, the little
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  Speaker 4: You could literally get in your car and live on
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  Speaker 4: the road in those areas years and there.
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  Speaker 2: They'll show you. They'll show you so much love and respect. Man.
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  Speaker 4: And I made my first million in the in the
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  Speaker 4: Chilling Circle, not when I became, not when I signed.
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  Speaker 4: I was already I had a house and everything when
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  Speaker 4: I signed my deal. But it was just me getting
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  Speaker 4: in that van and uh going to certain places too.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 4: I remember showing I remember I had a show in Memphis. No,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I remember going to Memphis and having three
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  Speaker 4: shows on one night, like a show here, having to
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  Speaker 4: legal here, do a show, then having to do an
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  Speaker 4: after party, and then driving back to Atlanta with all
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  Speaker 4: this you know the.
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  Speaker 2: Back in you know what I'm saying. I just you know,
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  Speaker 2: was that physical CDs time too?
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  Speaker 4: This is running time. I'm just starting to get on.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I had a song called Boo it was
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  Speaker 4: getting on the radio, Spend it when Spending got on
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  Speaker 4: the radio. So I'm not sure if it was see these.
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  Speaker 4: I think we might have been fading out from CDs.
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  Speaker 4: But when that stuff started happening, because Spending came out
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  Speaker 4: before I got the deal too, like riding around and
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  Speaker 4: get that song right there. So yeah, and so I
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  Speaker 4: had pretty much set a lot of the stuff that
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  Speaker 4: I had, Like my mom had her I bought my
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  Speaker 4: mom house before I bought mine because I'm having that
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  Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, that black people mentality,
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  Speaker 4: Like anything go wrong, I always shoot my mama house,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I did that, and
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  Speaker 4: it just took me a lot of getting in different
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  Speaker 4: rooms to I actually just pay everything cash, pay it
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  Speaker 4: all off, just just you know, had to rewire the
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  Speaker 4: way I was thinking.
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  Speaker 3: You make the first million, right, I wonder what the
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  Speaker 3: voice is telling you then, right.
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  Speaker 4: Is it telling me to buy some cars, telling me
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  Speaker 4: about just tell me about Rose Royce.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, man, again, sometimes you gotta go through
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  Speaker 5: things to learn them. So like this is like you're
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  Speaker 5: in the tailer's circle. You make the million, it's like,
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  Speaker 5: let me go spend it.
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  Speaker 4: No, So what I did was this is what I did.
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna keep it clean. I was gonna, oh man,
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  Speaker 4: it just hit me. I was gonna buy a may Back, right,
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  Speaker 4: this is the guy down this tr I was gonna
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: buy may back. And I was in Saint Louis for
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: some reason and and this boy n I don't know
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: why my mind is remembering this right now, but I
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: was around Nelly for something, bruh. And now you you
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: remember this. And I think I'm telling him about the
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: maybag or something. And he really liked at this time, like, boy,
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: you don't he trying to tell me you don't need
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: this mayback. I'm telling you like cause I'm on the
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: road doing the show in Saint Louis when he is
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: telling me this. And he said, he suggested, like a
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: tour bus get something like that. And I listen. I
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: told you, I listened to it. I listen, right, I listen, bruh.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: And I I act like I didn't I wasn't listening though.
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm gonna get this may back. Like I'm
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: telling you that I owe that car. You like, get
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: a bus. So I went and I s I found
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: a bus and put a studio on it, and they
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: got bunks, you know what I'm saying the whole thing,
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: and I started hitting the roll on my tour bus.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: It's before I got my record deal, and uh yeah, man,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: I end up investing my money into something like that.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: That was like an investment because like I got my
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: money out of it through traveling. It happened bunks on
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: there sometimes I didn't have to get rooms for everyone.
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: And then it had a kitchen on there, so I
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: like I had a stove like a hot plate on there.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I brought a chef with me, so I was able
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: to save some of my money from eating out and
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: able to feed the crew.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: And also it had.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: The studio on there. I was able to work, so
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: it was like a really like a mobile home. That
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: was one of the biggest That was one of the
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: things that there. When I first got some money, I
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: bought a bus.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: You mentioned when you brought yourself out of the contract.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: As far as points, we had about points all the time,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: like can you explain like what points are or for
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: like the layman.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: That I cannot explain it. I can't explain, but I
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: cannot explain it without saying a few a couple of times.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: It's like a percentage. It's a percentage. Yeah, that's a
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: great way.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: It's a percentage, but it's not like one percent of
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: one hundred, so it's it's not like that, but it's
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: a percentage of a project. Because me it was only
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: one percent of one hundred. We would just be like
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: that's nothing. But I did have to give up a
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: point from my project for I think the first three
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: abs or something. But whatever, it was, it for my freedom.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I really didn't it was worth it. It was worth it, man.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: And like I'm telling you, when you listen to that voice,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: everything gonna work, except everything gonna be all right.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Back ten everything came back tenfold.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: You would obviously you better on yourself. You win, But
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: then people are coming back to you right now, labels
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: are talking to you.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: At the time. I think this is like three sixty
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: deals become a thing.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: You didn't do that, and.
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Listen to the voice talk about that and saying like yo,
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: I see what people are doing.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing that. How it works out in your advantage?
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: Well, three Sisters came became very popular. I don't know, man,
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: we'll say maybe a little bit over TUNI years ago
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: it was introduced. I think Lee or introduced. I'm not
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: sure you think Lee are Yeah, But basically, what a
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: three sixty is is that artists who make money outside
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: of their music. Like when I say make money, they
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: have deals outside their music that the label is looped
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: into it. And I think it's maybe twenty percent or
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: something like that or something like that looped into that deal.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: So basically what the label is saying and I totally
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: get it. I understand the label. You know what I'm saying,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: blows you up. You get the popping PEPSI call you man,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: I want you to do this Pepps commercial. And then
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: the label like, bro, I piped you up, You're gonna
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: get me. I totally get that. But when I went
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: to go get my deal, I had so much leverage
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: that I was merely trying to find a label that
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: could help me internationally like I needed, Like, like, by
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: the time I got my record deal, y'all, this is
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: on everything A little. By the time I got my
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: record deal, I had already done a show in Idaho
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: and South Dakota.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: I had already been to places like that independently. Yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: oh my own.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: I already like been the eye at the home to
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: my I'm like looking for potatoes to eat.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I'm going, you know, on
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: culture bro, I go to Main, I go to Main.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: What I'm looking for I'm looking for when I go
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: to Philly.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Man, look, so that's what I'm doing. I'm doing this
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: on my home.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I'm going to places. Man, as soon as I'm laying
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: what did choose? You know what I'm saying, I'm going
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: to these places. So when I go do the meeting,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, man, I want to be an international shoit.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: I won't be known, you know, all over the world
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: to change those condemias. And so a couple of labels
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: weren't trying to even let me get to that point
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: of explaining. They just was like, this is what it is,
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: and you know, but.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: We're here now.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: So that was my first run with like death Jam,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: like my first solo deal with Depth Jam was probably
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: like it felt like something.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Lebron would do. Or Rich Paul, would you know it
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: felt that way.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: I had like I had a four album deal, which
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: is like everybody be having like six five album like
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: a four album deal, No, three sixty. Then after that
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: I would just sign for one album. I don't know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: let me think about it. You know what I'm saying,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: just on some some rich part.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Your extension.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just one one more album, man, I'll let you know.
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: And now, I mean I was going I'm independent now,
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: but I remember I was gonna be independent five six
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: years ago. Did the Pandemic hit. And then then I
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: started getting in line. I said this scary. Yes, I'm signing, man,
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: for sure, I'm signing.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: What's wrong with y'all? You're crazy?
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: The lever started kind of switching when that Pandemic hit. Shoot,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: but yeah, man, you said something, you said something. You
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: said the record label was like creating. They add bulk,
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: but they don't create muscle. That's that's interesting. Some stuff
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: I sing, I'll be saying some yeah, GPT get that
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: stuff from me. I'll be saying some shit, and then
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: I'll be putting in stuff to let you know, like
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of hipping like I've kind of be knowing
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: like the fitness type like that I know what tries
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: and y. You know.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: So that's a good part though, So like like explain
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: that I think you need your own internal team before
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: you plug up to the big machine.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: That's basically what I'm saying. There's so many words.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: I think you get a lot of the details and
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: the stuff that you love as an artist from your
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: internal team. The other, uh, the bigger label as we
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: all know, as people like to call the bank and
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: all that, they're there too. Obviously they hope you win,
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: but if you don't, they got something. They got more
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: things up the pipeline. So it's like, look at it
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: like this, right, look at it like this. A lawyer
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: they have one hundred cases. Then you get in trouble
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: and you're the one person. Then you think the lawyer're
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: only doing them for you. You know what I'm saying.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: And so that's the same thing that somebody might think
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: the label only doing the label got So you have
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: to take in this. You got to call your you
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: got to get involved in your own You got to
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: get involved with your with the same thing with you.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: Like they got all these artists going on let me
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: and so not to say that I'm calling the label,
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: but I got a team that I can funnel my frustration, discramntles,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: happiness whatever too, and they can plug.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: Up to the machine.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: And then I think that's how everything just kind of
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: connects and run smooth.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Well, that's what I wanted to get at too, because
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: That's how I look at it.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: As far as I think a lot of people make
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: the mistake of thinking that the label's going to do
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: everything for them. You still got to get yourself high.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: You still got to do the street work then, and
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: even for us, like we'll do whatever we do with
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: different corporations, that just helps amplify it. But it's up
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: to us to make the Instagram polls, to run around
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to make the relationships, Like if we just relying on
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: somebody else to do it for us, even though that
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: they have multi million billion dollar know arms at the disposal,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: you can't just sit back and say, Okay, I'm signed
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: to a label now, Like.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: But that's what a partnership is, right, That's what it
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: should be. Yeah, I think that's what it should be.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: I think everybody should do their part and then everything works,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: you know, like it should.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: That's what a partnership should be.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: I think we get confused because we grow up in
• 25:18
  Speaker 5: the era where like we hear somebody got signed and
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: that's the celebration.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, But it was because listen, it
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: was so hard to do that once upon a time.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Bro. It's not as hard now, but it was.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: So hard to be First of all, it was so
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: hard to get signed then, it was so hard to
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: even know a person that knew a person that was signed.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: It used to be a the degrees is closer now.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: It used to be like like when I'm coming up,
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: when I'm coming up, I'm coming up in Atlanta, and
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: we got artists like at this time, like maybe Keylo
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: and Sammy Sam. I don't even know nobody that know
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: nobody that then that you know what I'm saying. It's
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: like that. And it's the same thing with like, especially
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: in the South, with my friend Dollar who was in
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: play a circle with. He put me on Wou Tang
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: and even Ja and he would be like, man, you
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: But it's like.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: When fans see see people like me now and I'd
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: be like, yo, it's just me.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: I remember being a fan of people watching them on TV,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: never seeing them in person until I became me, but
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: just watching them on TV wondering how this happened. You know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: you hear these Wu Tang stories now, but I don't
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: know that. I'm just looking at I'm just looking at
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: these I'm just looking at people. I don't you know
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: what it is as when you out here, you don't understand.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: It's a budget.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: You don't understand it's a stylist, it's a you know,
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: somebody had scouted for this location, this car is you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: we just you know, we liked the lifestyle, you know
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: what I mean, And so early on when somebody got
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: a record deal, we automatically soon one that they were rich,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: and two it was just like not the easiest thing
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: to get. And even when I got a record deal,
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know when it happens to you, I guess
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: it's different. I feel like I put the work in,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: but now I feel like a lot of people get
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: record deal based off different things, not just music.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: It was like it was like getting drafted. Get a
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: record okay, right, like right, okay?
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: The percentage probably like I ain't looking at it. I
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: ain't look at it like that. I ain't look at
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: it like that. I ain't look at it like that
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: because I just believed in myself. But I guess when
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: you look at it like that, like like that percentage
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: is so low out of you if you think about
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: like college, the people that are you think about people
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: that go to college, become a student athlete then get draft,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: you know, and playful, it is very a very very
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: small number.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: So if you even put it in that perspective, when
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: double XIL would have the draft class, you beat the
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: top you know what I'm saying, it be the top
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: ten or top twelve people.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Make it out of the class.
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: Then you go back and look at some of those classes,
• 28:01
  Speaker 5: like yo, damn, they were pretty spot on.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people that wasn't on it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, if you look at it, Blake sal that's them,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: like the McDonald's All America exactly, because that's like a
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: I think they say to McDonald's All American. I think
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: eighty percent of those kids go to the league.
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's the best.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: You almost like when you right there on that court,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: you're almost knowing like I'm gonna be there in a
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: couple of years.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: So they're actually making a documentary about it for real.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: McDonald's all American and it's following the history of it
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: and how it evolved just being the number one place
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: to find the next NBA talent. Yeah, you brought up
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: team because I think that's important.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: You got your team here with you today, Vams here
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: with you, and then you brought up Jay.
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: There's a couple of things here that that are important
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: because it's the story here that you talk about having
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: an opportunity to potentially sign with Jane, but realizing that
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: you might have to leave some of the team behind
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: you to do it, and choosing not to do it.
• 28:53
  Speaker 5: So it talks about integrity, It talks about loyalty. Was
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: this the voice in the head that spoke to you
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: at this moment?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: People but ask me that at all the time. That's
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: a good question.
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: Uh, this was before I got my record deal, which
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: is before tweeny twelve.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I don't think I was that tapped in back then.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: I think this is something that I probably acquired twenty sixteen,
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: twenty seventeen and beyond. I think I probably had a voice.
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: I just don't think I maybe listened to it as
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: much as I listened to it now mm hm. That
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: situation along with a alone with just growing up. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: think a lot of situations sometimes I wonder what would
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: have you know, I had situations like that. I think
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: about go back to six or seventh grade. I wondered
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: about it, did this? I wanted did that? But that
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: was one of those situations. But at the same time,
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: I think my moral compass is is in a position
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: to where I wouldn't leave nobody behind that I'm really
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: rocking with, you know what I'm saying in any situation.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: So this was a situation where I'm I'm rocking with
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: someone who's fully supported me, believing in me, and I
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: feel like this person put me where I could be recognized.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: By some of the hierarchs.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: So I just wanted him to wanted my guy to
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: be a part of whatever it was about to go
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: to what I thought was about to happen, and at
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: then and everything still worked out. We still everybody still amical.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Boy is still cool.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: So that that was Rockefeller. It wasn't Rockefeller.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: It was a situation where when I got a call
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: from JD one day, man, forgive me, y'all, I know
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: y'all tied it. I don't even want to keep going
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: into this. But I had got a call one day
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: from JD JD saying hold on.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: He put me on the phone with Jay and it
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: was all of.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Them, and they was just saying like, but at this
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: particular time, it was when I was telling you about
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: having leverage, I was still independent, I'm doing these I'm
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: moving around and they just simply invited me to a
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: meeting and I wanted to bring someone with me, and
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: they were saying, you don't have to bring this person.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: This person it's Tech. But Tech was a DJ. His
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: name was DJ Techniques. And I tell the story a
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: lot too. I think a lot of DJs are bigger
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: than just being a DJ.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: They do more than just DJ right.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: They have a mindset, they have a person out, they create,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: they do different things. So if you think about DJ Drummer,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: we know I mean this guy signed ooh. If you
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: think about cal It, you know what I'm saying. And
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: so when I at this particular time, I didn't realize
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: how much the word DJ maybe pigeonhole or hold you back.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: So I'm just saying, man, man, my dog, DJ Technique.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: They like I think JD like, Bro, you don't need
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: your DJ, you know what I'm saying, Like I get
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: and when I look in retrospect, I look at me like, man,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I'm probably sounding crazy because I'm like, man, I got
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: to brain. DJ says, They're like, man, what the hell
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: you talking about? You're not about to do no show,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So we probably was just
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: it's probably just man cross and the communication just was off.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: I'm partially excited because I'm getting these kind of calls
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: every day. They excited to work with me, and here
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: I am talking about somebody that believed in me. But
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: he you know, he got this name. So I remember
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: after that conversation, I telling me you got to lose
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: that DJ.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Man, you got to get that out of there.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: So at what point, because you got a lot of businesses,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: the rest of our Escobar lounge, you do real estate,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you know, at what point did you say I gotta diversify.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I can't just be an artist or was that always
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: part of the game plan from day one was to
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: just use rap as a way to get your foot
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: in the door, but not to just only focus on music.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the mentality for me was always to
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: have multiple strings of income. Off the off, the rip, off,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: the rip, you know, anything can happen. And then with
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: the restaurant space. Once I understood what consistent passive income
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: could be, then it just changed my life on how
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: I kind of started putting pieces on the board because
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: you had a line of I forget the line, but
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: it was on the Large Junior album. You in Large
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Junior was like the business something like along the lines
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: of like having businesses save me, like you know what
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, Like if I ain't have my businesses like
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: so like that's important because a lot of times when
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: you fly high, you only focus on one thing. You
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: don't think it's never gonna slow down, nothing's never gonna
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: change it in there. Yep, I've had I've had that
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: thinking I'm saying out with bankers and been man, look man,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: I don't yeah, I ain't about to be doing this.
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: I ain't gonna have to do this, you know what
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. But you know, and then it's the same thing. Man, businesses,
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: they they go through a roller coaster tooths ups and downs. Man,
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: being an entrepreneur is not the easiest thing in the
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: world too.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: That's a fact. You have to man you.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Cy, you know, sometimes you get paid lass if at all,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: that's a fat you know. And so I have businesses
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: that that struggle. But I'm just a firm believer about
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: just things that I that I'm involved in, it, passionate about,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: and I believe in a cycle of it just a
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: an nothing, just being great all the damn time. Once
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: you get that out of your head, mm, you can
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: you can navigate life differently, uh, in a better way
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: for me. So I understand, Like I look around the club,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: be be cracking every like. Yeah, it ain't gonna be
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: like this forever. You know what I'm saying. I get it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: You gotta be slightly paranoid at all times.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: Every y you say slightly, man, you crazy, you better
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: be paranoid.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: You have to be paranoid. That's a fact.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: You gotta be paranoid.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: I I gotta.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: I wanna apologize in advance.
• 34:59
  Speaker 5: I don't know how we went this far without giving
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: you a huge thank you for shouting us out in
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: the record.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I did. And yeah, I heard Shot and Troy talking
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: about the tax left.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: So I mean, it talks about being in the know,
• 35:13
  Speaker 5: It talks about their points of financial education in the
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: moment that were in. Talk about how your viewing it
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: from your landscape. Obviously we've seen we've been to the restaurants,
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: but you're seeing a lot of your counterparts.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Now getting into the space. That's right, and you've been here,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: So what is that like for you?
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I already knew this. I already knew I'm not lame,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: so I don't do lame stuff. So I already know
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: that somebody can really look at what I'm doing and
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: get some game from me and get something from me.
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: And I also know that I ain't know somebody be like,
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: oh man, the only reason they did that cause me,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: or the reason they got that because they just this
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: is my personality, not like that. But as I look around,
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: it's starting in my city alone, and how I mean,
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: it was already a black city, but man, so many
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: people that do what I do own so many great things.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: And peace of property.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: And as we all know and and heard a thousand times,
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: you can't buy no more land.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: I mean we're not. You can buy more but they're
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: not gonna make any more land. And so.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: You know, I ain't lame, ain't done no lame stuff.
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: Like I make invest and look cool. I make I
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: make a lot of stuff that people might not be
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: comfortable with. I make it look just. I make it
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: look cool cause it's just it's just it's just really me,
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. It's just I'm so comfort
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: in my hand. I know, like I know, like I
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: don't know, man, I just know, like, well, I listened
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: a lot. I listen more than I talk over the years,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: and I've been in the rooms and so I've seen
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: the ones that do a lot of talking. I see
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: them too. They come across my timeline. But I know
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: that somebody can really get some games just from watching me,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: just from really like a day in like a twenty
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: four hours of me, I know somebody can learn something.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: How how big is Atlanta in your development? Because it's
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: like for us coming to Atlanta and it is the
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: mecca of black business, black entrepreneurship. And I think that
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: that even plays a part as far as like the musicians,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's more of an entrepreneurial spirit from the
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: beginning because of the city of Atlanta kind of cultivates
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and supports black entrepreneurship.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: That's my opinion. Which what's your thoughts on.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: That we we piggyback off each other. I think it's
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: a it's a it's a great city net to network.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Everybody's one phone call away, one DM away. You can
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: you can. You can cut the ribbon on a business
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: at six o'clock, man, and we can send out a
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: few cars and.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: The mayor would be there, like the mayor pull up.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: His crew.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: We can call him. We can call our mayor right,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: you know, like my mayor. My mayor listened to the
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: same album. He heard you, he heard me, give you all.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying, So our see that is
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: different in the fact that, Man, it's so many contributing
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: factors to the success in Atlanta, man, and a lot
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: of it being.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Black people in high places.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: And the follow up on that, Atlanta, you were kind
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: of at the forefront of the music changing. You saw
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: the music change New York had it, and then you
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: saw around your time, your era, that's when it changed
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: in Atlanta took the torch. You saw that coming, or
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: you just kind of like was just in it and
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: it just happened like organically.
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: I saw it coming because it was becoming more and
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: more consistent with Atlanta, having records that got out of
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: Atlanta that iact, that got out of magicity.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: Sometimes we had records that just stayed locally. But it
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: became a time that anything we did, people were gravitated
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: to it. And I come to New York and I
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: hear it like that. I can't believe they planning it,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: because it was a time where music was very regional.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: But then I remember, you know, coming to New York
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: and hearing Atlanta music. I remember hearing it a lot
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: when it first, you know, started happening a lot, and
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: that's when you know it's like your time, because everybody's
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: kind of receptive to what you're doing.
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it was, yes, Atlanta, but at that
• 39:28
  Speaker 5: early two thousands, it's a Southern movement, is Wayne.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Obviously, it's us Tip, it's g Z who she it
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: was just a whole thing, right. But the Wayne thing
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: is interesting to me.
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: Obviously, this is this is a good thing of your
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: This has been in a lot of Wayne talk over
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: the past couple of weeks. He's on record That's one
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: of my favorite mcs of all time. I probably probably
• 39:53
  Speaker 5: probably got in my top five. We used to argue
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: about Wayne's tip all the time. Being around him taught
• 39:59
  Speaker 5: you a lot, right y y you s you speak
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: about learning what work.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Ethic is, talk about how that shaped your career from
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: that point on and to where you at now.
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: I'm someone that learns in any room that I'm in.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: I was on tour with with Bruh and just really
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: kind of watch how he moved and how convenience was
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: at that kind of at the forefront of the success,
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: the convenience of I just told, y'all, man, the bus
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: everything I just described, y'all, a bus with the studio
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: of the ship. I got all that for him. Everything
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: that I just describe, y'all just got it from watching him.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: To drop everything that I just got it from watching him.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: I just I just did, like this, this is what
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: you do. I I guess you know, and I I
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: did it. It was like, somebody's not hiding, you know,
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: the secrets to success. He's not someone that's that's hiding
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: if you pick up on it good. I mean, he's
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: not like take you to the water and make you
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: drink it either. But if you are smart enough to
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: be around one of the goats in real time.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Bro, you can't take nothing from that.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: Bro.
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: I feel like there's not many people that he has
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: the best music relationship with. I feel like you have
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: a music relationship with him and a friendship with them
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: that's very unique and it's been cultivated. Obviously y'all put
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: out the joint album. How are you taking all the
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: talk around him these days?
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: I love him? Man.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: Can't nobody say nothing do anything to change how I
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: feel about him. I love him deep down the side
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: like I love him, man, Dwayne Carter, that's my guy.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: How family, that's something that you know you obviously got
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: the podcast with your son.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought your kids here today? Your wife? How
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: has that played a part in your success?
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Because I just saw something with Ammon Shumker saying, like
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of the NBA players go broke because they
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: start having kids, multiple baby moms. That's like a thing.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: It's broken families. That's a dynamic that has taken down
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of men. We see it now even all
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: over How how has your family played a part in
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: your success?
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: Played a big part of my success? Man? You gotta
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: mm hm.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: My co stars, she plays a great leading role in
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: the household. My kids beautiful and smart, and I'm someone
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: that's very involved and want to be That's the main thing.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: I want to be at the recital or at the game,
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: or at whatever. I'll be wanting to be there. Like
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: it's interesting seeing something that has your DNA grow up.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: And I've been able to watch it up close, and
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: I'm sure watching it from afar, it's pretty amazing too.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: I'm sure if you don't see your kids for a
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: couple of months and you see them, I'm sure that's
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I'm sure that could be pretty amazing too. I'm not
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: gonna knock that, but like when I don't see mine
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks and come back and just like, okay,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like it whatever it is, Oh,
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: it just gives me a great feeling.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I just feel like that that was
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: my way. I think that was in my cars to
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: have a family stay grounded. You know, I think I'm
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: I'm not thinking I'm matured.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Very early. Man.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I was outside very early. I was I had sex
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: very early, I saw drugs very early. I stole cars
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: very I just did a lot of things very early.
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: So By the time I got to an age where
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: people started doing some of those things, I was already
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: maturing as an adult.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And we're getting to see artists mature too, because it's
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: like we see you and your family, we see Ti
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: his family, we see Jay. Like when we first started
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: to listen to music, it wasn't too much of that.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: It was everybody was young. Everybody was just doing whatever
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: they was doing.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: So now it is changing because it's like the music
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: is maturing because your artists are mature.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the music, man, I can't wait to put out
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: my next project. Man, some fly shit man. This project.
• 44:24
  Speaker 4: My next project is with Static Selector, but it's it's
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: produced by Status select I've been talking about it, but
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: I got fifteen hundred and rants doing production on top
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: of his and I just revamped the whole project. It's
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: called Players Only Live Once, But it's it's my best
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: way I describe it is white suit red wine.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: No stain.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Living on the head. Is that it is? That? Is
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: that crazy?
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about no marche white everywhere, only serving read.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to put you down. That's what this,
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: That's what my music, That's what this feels like. That
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: I'm putting out, so I'm excited about it. But I'm
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: right now I'm doing a book tour and this is
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: my first book and it's my first time being an author.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: It won't be my last. But it was a lengthy process.
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: I learned a lot about the book space and I
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: learned a lot about myself while creating it. But my, my, my,
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: this music that I have put together and it's ready,
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: it's getting mixed. I'm done with it. It's like it's
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: some player stuff, but it's like it acts. It acts
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: as age, is what I'm trying to tell you. That's
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: what I'm going back to, that excess age.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's it's pinky and let
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: me get a I might add that to it moment.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: This is one of them like IM make announcement earlierly
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: were moving to Africa whatever, y'all bet So it's like
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: one of them things rock classes. You're real boy, Hey boy,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: I'm finn to go to the studio of the night,
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: but we're doing back rack last night.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Boy, Come on, man, it is you. Uh.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: You talked about the book process. We are fresh all
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: of going through that process. It's interesting because you did.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: The audio book. We also did the audio book.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: What was that like for you being in the studio.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Obviously you are recording artists, right a slash hyphen that
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: you're going to be a New York Times bestseller after
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: the book comes out, But what what was that like
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: during that doing the engineering of you actually having to
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: dictate and pronunciate.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: Like, how was that for you?
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: I'm fine, I'm fire, And I listened and I listened.
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: I listened to audio books. Okay, so I've listened to
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: like the stale ones, and I've listened to something that
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: had a little affliction. And so when I'm reading the stories,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: I'm already knowing I'm damn to change the voice on
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: some of that shit. I'm damn, he said she. I'm
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: doing all that with it, you know what I'm saying.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: And like I said, I I'm one of them kids.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I used to raise my hand when I was trying
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: to read out loud. Yeah, I don't read the word.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: I done read the word before I done got to it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: So I'm reading and looking up at y'all while you
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. I'm doing that up there, you know,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: And I'm doing that very early. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: going yeah, yeah, I'm I'm doing that, so you know,
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I wanted to do that. And then first of all,
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: listened to myself listening to the audiobook back, It's like, damn,
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: it's funny, like because I don't realize I talk like that.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: I don't realize I have an accent. I don't realize
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: any of that stuff. But like listening to the book
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: is like, damn, but you got some words you need
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: to work on. You might not be stephen A, but
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: you know, but I'm genuine man, I'm me, I'm transparent,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: I'm very vulnerable in this and this is a very
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: like introspective piece of work man from me. I think
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: people be very surprised and talk about and reading is
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: difficult because we actually read it. I didn't like the
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: way that I sounded, so I actually had a professional
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: come and do it over for my part real because
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: I listened to audiobooks too, so I didn't like the
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: way I sounded and I felt like it wasn't the best.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: So I know firsthand how difficult. Well it was easy
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: to you, but for me, it was difficult.
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, I'm reading, I'm reading I
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: don't know. I was probably I probably read four chapters
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: a night until it was done right. But they got
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: to set up. They got to set up in my
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: personal space, my personal studio space, so I was comfortable.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: I'm having probably got on slides or something, and they
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: got the mic set up and it was just like
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: reading out loud, and I don't know, I don't know.
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, obviously after you get to reading
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: so long, your energy could fall up, so they have
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: someone letting you know about maintaining the energy.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: But I don't know. I think it was it was
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: very important for me to do read mind.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: It was very important. It's one of those things. It
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: was like you're in the studio all day.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: I think being in education helped me do it because
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: I'm used to reading to kids, okay, and so I
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: remember it's the first time I ever sat down in
• 49:12
  Speaker 5: front of a classroom. The kids were untying my shoes,
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: they were punching my leg, and I'm just like, how
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: do I now focus on these words?
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: I got to show it to them, and then all
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: Prepared you for the moment of now getting in that studio.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: The toughest part is when somebody's in your air. Like
• 49:27
  Speaker 5: you missed the on that last sentence.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Wait wait wait go back. You didn't say, uh wait
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: wait wait go back, go back.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And man, it could get like I said, it
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: got a little lengthy. But and I was knocking three
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: or four chapters out of night and still recording some
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: music though.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: And you work with our friend Charlomagne. Yeah, Black privilege,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: talk about that. How that relationship come about? Man, I'm
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: gonna be truthful.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: Man, I was working on this book and all I
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: know is Charlomagne kepped his way in there. Something This
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: sounds like, Yeah, I think I think he's just smart.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Man. You know, you know, you know, I'm a winner.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: You know, when I put something into the university, most
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: of the time it's successful. So it was nothing Me
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: and him said downn't even talked about me. I looked
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: up I've seen his name or something. I was like, okay,
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: But you also helped him out with crystals? Yeah, yeah
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: about that. Yeah, he has a few crystals. I think.
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: Well, I know down in South Carolina where he's from,
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: and I know the I know the owner of like
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: all the crystals at Baltimore. It's a friend of mine,
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: and uh, you know, I'll be having my hands in
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: a little something and uh he Charlemagne was interested in
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: that that I had my hand in.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: So I introduced him to.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: Just cool, cool guy nature anything, and they built their
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: own rapport and he opened up I think he opened
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: up more than one.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: Think he's doing this thing. So at times I want
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: to ask for a royal chi ray. Let me that black,
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: Let me that black man. You some shoot me son,
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: that black. You can't just let some of that. That's
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: the black affair, offensive black effect. Man, You're gonna shoot
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: me some new black tex.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: Man, but uh, you worked out.
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: For you obviously you've been successful. Shotty mentioned watching your
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: kids and be a part of their lives. I mean,
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: you got one of the top young basketball players in
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: the country. Man, for a guy who loved was basketball,
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: what is that like like watching him be like.
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: Be way better than I want to? Yeah, they have
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: number ten and is he number ten in Georgia or what?
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: You know? He's rand naturally, but naturally he top twenty five. Naturally.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: We just left to get here today. We just did
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: a tournament in Cincinnati. Yeah, they'll probably put out a
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: new ranking cause this youth sports stuff is it's crazy.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy.
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: My son literally graduates in twenty thirty four and they
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: have like a twenty thirty four class twenty thirty.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: You know, and it's it's real.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: It's I mean, I can't even tell you how many
• 52:17
  Speaker 4: fights almost saw at this AU tournament this weekend. I mean,
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: the sheriff came real, real like passion from coaches, parents, kids,
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: and in the fourth grade, I did not have this
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: much passion about anything but these kids. And oh man,
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: it's just man. I love being around it right now.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, if you haven't been around youth sports, well
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: it's football, basketball. If you just don't have motivation anymore,
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: just go around those kids, man. I mean the way
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: they jump up and down, the way they talk like adults,
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: the way they the mannerisms. You mix that with wherever
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: they from, whatever household, you throw that with background music
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: and some Nike it's some Kobe's just John Morans and
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: you got some entertainment going on.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Man. I love watching it. I love having a kid.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: That is just so poised and so humble with having
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: a podcast with my son with him being because he
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: asked me in this tournament, like the games started getting
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: lit and he and womam, he said, Hey, all these
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: people come to watch me play?
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Asked me that.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: I say, I mean, they are some other people they
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: want to come see play, but you know, they want
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: to see you, know, and they want to see you
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: do good, and they want to see you they want
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: to see you fail too, you know what I'm saying.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: They want to see him fail too. But I don't know, man,
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: I think my son his superpower is confidence. I've been
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: installing that confidence and this little black boy for so
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: long that it's hard to really rattle that, you know
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. He got a couple of things to
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: work on, just like I do. But he's only ten,
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: and I'm just very I'm very, very proud of that.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: I'm very proud of that kid. That's a dopeer compans.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: I'm proud of that kid.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: But it's also changed too, Like as far as youth sports,
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: kids have personal trainers now, the NIL deals now at
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: high school kids is getting millions of dollars before they
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: even go to the league. What's your Because you're a
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: sports fan too, So what's your thoughts on like how
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: it was before and how it is now?
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: This is long overdue. You know you're going that long
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: without no kids? Man, literally, bro, we used to be
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: hungry in college, like we used to be hungry. D
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: one full ride scholarship, full ride whoppers were ninety nine
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: cent boy, you know what I'm saying.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: But you was hungry, but you was also hungry. You
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: think these kids is hungry because even I go to the
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: NBA games half of the day just running up and
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: down the court.
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: You think that they're really hungry.
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: Now you get hungry if you know something on the line.
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. Some of these kids know
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: something's on the line. And I think you start identifying
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: those kids by the hunger you see and the way
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: they move and the way they play. Some of these kids,
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: like before, they if they ever don't even go to
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: the league. They can get some money. Now, get the
• 55:24
  Speaker 4: right LinkedIn information, do the right investment. Who knows what,
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: and they can change their life through nil money. And
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: I think, and I know for a fact my son
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: he'll probably get it in high school. But I'm just saying,
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: like this time is way overdue. I mean you got man,
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: you got people that man, we got people that we
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: that went to college.
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: Man, we we look man, that boy.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: I just seen Jalen Rose Man that man. Say you
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: the first person ever named Jalen in this whole in
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: the world. I'm trying to explain that to Heylo, like
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: what do you mean? You know how we got like
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: Jalen Johnson on our team? And I'm like, hey, you know,
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: like Jalen Brunt. I'm like, broh home the first one ever.
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: The All Star Game they had six Jalens on the
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: court at the same time. For real, you know it
• 56:07
  Speaker 5: was Jail Durant, Uh, Jail Durant and yet to do
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: for Jalen Johnson.
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: Ye, height a man ain't get a nickel, man, ain't
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: get a fire, man, ain't get five man get free dinner.
• 56:22
  Speaker 4: So I think that some kind of way, you know,
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: and it could get out of hand and make certain
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: teams lopside. Just depends on you know, you have these
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: boosters who have they can they can pay for a
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: championship now. But if you can't do it, you know,
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: let's do if you got enough money to buy you
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: a great team, you know, make sure these kids eating though.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: Man, that's what it's about kids. Man.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: Man, them coaches come to your parents' house, they be
• 56:49
  Speaker 4: looking around them. Folks know you ain't got no money
• 56:52
  Speaker 4: when they come and recruit you. Boy, you know what
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. They some coaches are compassionate about that, Like damn,
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: he come from this type environment.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: It in some or not.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: Man, they know to you think that's the way. We
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: watched Indiana do it this year. I mean, this is
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: a team historically has had the worst record in the
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: history of college football.
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you got a big booster like Mark you been
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: coming in. We're gonna bring the coach in national champion.
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: I saw mister b said he's trying to do that
• 57:19
  Speaker 5: for Eastern Carolina to see him do it, right, But who.
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: What about Atlanta?
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: No, But like think about miss what he's talking about
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Carolina East Carolina, right, think about all the little Carolina
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: little the possibilities these kids got now because he buying
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: it now, he can't buy the ref reason and maybe
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: he can't, but he can't. He's like, yeah, but he
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: can bring in the talent. As far as Atlanta, I mean,
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: we have a lot of people that have capital too
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: and Atlanta. Do you know, I don't know if you
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: want to bring him what Tech or Georgia.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: I was thinking Georgia was George's already powered Georgia Tech,
• 57:57
  Speaker 5: which used to be a basketball school, hasn't had to
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: say unfortunate recently.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're from that.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: Kenny Anderson Tech era that Scott Scott, Marlburry, Travis Travis
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: Marlberry Maberry era. Oh my gosh, I remember he caught it.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: I remember when he got named caught this alley opening
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: game and I was like, yo, this he was like
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: laying in the air man.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: It was been a minute. The early two thousand they
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: went to the final four. They was like that all
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: the names we named, that's when they was like that.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: Jack, So it was probably the last time they played
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: for the Chips Jared Jack.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of the book, before we wrap business, what's
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: the what's the worst financial move that you made, and
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: what's the best financial move that you made? Like what's
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: the what's the biggest mistake and what's the biggest Like when.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about the bad stuff.
• 58:50
  Speaker 4: I invested into a dispenser, I invested into this place,
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: called Pineapple Express, and they basically just ran off with
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: my with my money. The reason that or cause it's
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: some millions involved, and the reason that that not only
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: hurts because it's the amount of money, it hurts because
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: I tapped on some of my friends, not like business partners,
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: some of my friends on giving them an investment opportunity
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: to be a part of something that was legal and
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: should have been been having some payouts. And I was
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: just trying to like I went to some of my friends.
• 59:25
  Speaker 4: That's the best way I can articulate that. I went
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: to some of my friends and I was like, you know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: give me fifty or a hundred, and i'm'a put you know,
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: and just and then so for these people at this
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: dispensary to you know, basically fold on the things that
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: they promised. And it's been multiple years. So I'm just
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: trying to get that lawsuit handle. That's a whole lossuit
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: to just get all get everything back from that and more.
• 59:53
  Speaker 4: And then I invested in a spect that I thought
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: was gonna be sc that's from and that junk smacked me,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: smacked me talking about took me, smacked me, dispenser respect,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: I know it's one more.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Spencer.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: Respect man, come on, man, I've made some I've made
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: some bad investments.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: Oh man, come on one more. Yeah. Oh.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: And I invested in a land easement.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: Because it was like what certain billionaires do you know
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: when they hit you with that one? Billionaires do that
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: all the money they hit you with that one. I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: put some money on some land easement that was supposed
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: to give me some kind of tax benefits, and I
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: lost some money there. The land easement was not as
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: much as the SPACs or the dispensary. But I I
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: can't sit in front of you and act like everything
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: I've done.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it's part of it, yeah, part of it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: I I can't let you out on that note, though.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Well what's the best what's the best thing you've done financially?
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we give us the best. And then I got
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: we gotta we gotta talk music, but gotta tell us
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: the best.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: The best investment was first buying the dirt. This is
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: one of the best. It's one of the best. My
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: best investment is those kids education that has private school.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: But I bought the dirt to where Esco is now.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: I bought the dirt, then put a business on the
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: dirt and then turned that into a cash paying business.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: And then so that was that was l that was lucrative.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: My wife I bought her daycare that she's still on.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: She doesn't work there obviously somebody else has. But that's
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: very lucrative too, because AI can't make kids.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's gonna be all right. Those daycares is expensive.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: Tuition them daycare, that's tuition. They care something else. Man,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: that money, that money is different, but that's through property.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: Let me think about something that I did. I invested
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: in SpaceX, yeah, very early on, early early on. Man,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: If I tell y'all what I got in on SPACEXT,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: I know y'all know that too. I'm actually I'm I'm
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: I'm invested in Anthropic too. I saw what they just
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: said about that. I don't know how valuation yeah, or
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: the government situation.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: What do you think? What do you think that's gonna
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: do for my investment? I'm in front of the right guy.
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: I think that topical be okay.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: Uh, there's going to be a part of the segment
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: that's looking at it like great, I'm glad you didn't
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: What happened right after they said no their competitor said, yes, yeah,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: so we got we gotta watch that. But you know,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: you have Microsoft as an investor, you got Amazon that
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: whole ownership in it.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: That they'll be fun. I think they'll be fun.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: How'd you get at SpaceX?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: You can't wait for that ip on?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Hunh, that's a that's a big that's a big one.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: Well and now I'm you're already at a trillion.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: One point Well, it could be up to one point
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: five with the Xai situation being merged.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 4: I just had like a forty minute it was. It
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: was I was in the right place at the right time.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: I know some pe guys that would when it came across,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: they disk they would give me the opportunity to you know,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: and you know with the investments, I gambled, So it
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: kind of feel like gambling with certain investments. So a
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 4: lot of times I wrote shakes too big and certain
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: stuff and not chakes big enough in other things. But
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: you know, the whole thing is like you're just trying
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: to come up with some multiples, man, you know. And
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: I got in with SpaceX very early. Let me go
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: back to that, got in there very early, and man,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: I could I just tell y'all off the air.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: It just felt like I.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: Got in like early bitcoin. Let me just say that
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: I got in very early. But I'm in on that
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: and so that's a that's a good one. But it
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: hadn't I po yet, but so I need I told
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: y'all when we get off, because I got something to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: all right, and then let me see if I got
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: one more that that that could. I think that's a
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: good one, though. I think that's a anthropic zen Water.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you've seen zen Water. It's a
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: water out that uh said water. I said that, But
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: zen Water is h A guy by the name of
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: Lance Collins did zen Water. He did body Armor with
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: that Kobe deal eight million, I think Kobe put in
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: or something. He did that, and uh, if you look
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: at zen Water, you see a lot of investments like
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: me and Harden and Travis Kelse and a few other
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: guys like that. But he is someone that's been in
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 4: the beverage space for many years and have sold different
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: beverages to different companies once they scale. And so I've
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: been with him very early on too, and I feel
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: confident about that. Some other stuff that I invested in,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: I just don't know. I'm praying hope something happens, but
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 4: I think those three right there, I feel like, like,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: like I said, I'm a little skeptical anthropy, but ai
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: ais is gonna.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: You only got to get one out of ten. That's
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: the average, they say. And you got the one, the one,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: like it's like baseball. Yeah, and you're not going back
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: three hundred though. If you bath through hundred, great.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I think Jane Harden told us about this in water right, yep,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: for real, Yeah, he told us about it.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because we were talking about the Kobe deal with
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 5: him and he was one of the people that got mentioned.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: I think Mike trave was involved as well. But yeah,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 5: they did. They did pretty well on that.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And and you see that being like.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: You see like that being a trend with with black
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: athletes that got money. Now they they learning what a
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 4: parlayed and they hearing about these Kolbe deals and you know,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: you some of this stuff wasn't out loud. I think
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: that's the main thing. Some of them wasn't transparent.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: It was not loud. You had no clue.
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  Speaker 4: It was like some some of some of us people
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: look like us, got in those rooms and was not
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: passing on the information. It was not becoming or becoming
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: and that and that's how I got caught in the
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: dispensary stuff because I'm trying to be a bridge to
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: my my brothers. I'm like, yo, let me put you down,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: let me help you out, let me give me this,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: you know, and it just and that I'm really salty
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: about that because I was trying to really help some
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: of my friends in that instance.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: Right there in my head, the true just went off
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: when you said they they didn't want to build that bridge,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: because that's what happens, right, which is why like we
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: become kind of a place that becomes the bridge, Like, hey,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: here's the information, here's what we're hearing in those rooms,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: here's how you can execute on it.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: But I y'all keep doing that.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to talk about true because grabby night,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: I'm watching the performance live.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: They didn't have two chains performing. But she's okay. Next year,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: it's okay.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: Biaber's up there, got the guitar, his boxes on, putting
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: the beat together.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: You get to that hook, he pressed it the ad
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  Speaker 3: little button.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I said change what I was celebrating And
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: what was that moment?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: Like for you, man, I was just starting to get
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: text messages because I wasn't watching it when it was
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: going on. But Justin Bieber is a friend of mine.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: We've been friends for a while, and he invited me
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: to a studio session that I could not make because
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: I was in another state. I wish I would have
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: came hindsight, and he ended up sending me the Yukon
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: record to do ad libs on. So when people hear
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: my yeah on Justin Bieber's song, he didn't steal that,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: like that's a new Yeah, that's a that's straight out
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: to plastic. It's brand new, it's brand new, straft to rack,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: no clearance, No, I cleared it, but it wasn't on
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: the clearance rack.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah and yeah man. It was just it's cool
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: to be a part of these little moments. Man.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: I I can't write that type of like I can
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 4: write the yeah, I don't even have to write that,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: but what I'm saying, the story behind and Howard this
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: man up there singing in his draws like you dig
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, and boy he hit him with the yeah,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: and you know, people hear me like, boy, he used
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: your am. I'm like you know, because I don't know.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: People were just not hearter for the first time. But
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: it was a great experience. And it's just like, man,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: like God just be he just throwed me out there sometime.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: I'm doing something right, bro, That's all I can say. Man.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: I was thinking about this on the way here today
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 5: when we were talking about all performance agent right, like maturing.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: I feel like you walk into this base where you
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 5: fit in in every arena, like you talked about the
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 5: day in the life, Like if we saw you at
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 5: the Cardi B concept, It's like change should be there
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 5: also a game on the court, Oh yeah, he should
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 5: be there. If he's invest fast, he should be there.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 5: If he's at Magic City, oh he's like you fit
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: in all these environments.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: So Cardi B.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: I should be at a Cardi B show, I wrote,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: I wrote something on her project. I should be a
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 4: court side at the Halls game because I have a
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: partnership with them through the Skyhawks. I should be an
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: investments because who else I'm investing? What else you said?
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: I'd be doing Magic City. I own my own strip
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: club as well. Let's do that. Candy Land, Candy La
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: forget about Candy Land. So me and Magic we like
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: we work in the same field. Yeah you dig what
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. Magic came to my club for my birthday
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: was like seeing Magic. Mister Magic in my club was
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: like a highlight for me. You know, his sons come
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: through all the time. But a lot of suff that
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: you name and Bro, it's not a reach from me.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: It's it's organic. It's what I'm trying. That's why I'm
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: really trying. It's really organic.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: I know you just ringing it off the top of
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: your head, but everything you name it is so organic
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: to me. I'm not looking out of place. I'm not
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: I'm not controning myself to fit in none of that
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: stuff you're talking about, because it's just really me. You
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: wear many hats I'm trying to keep doing on. I
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: just thought, look, I just thought, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: In New York, you know what I'm saying.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: We used to say, Man, you say, man, your hat
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: drunk when you just throw it on any kind of way, Man,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: you ain't drunk the hat. So I just got the
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: hat on just like look very it's very ghost face
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: killed love you, man, I love ghost Face.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: I love.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I was saying, like last year had
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: at best felt I never forget Shaka Bars. You had
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: you told him to come over to the club, so
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: you had, you had, you had dinner with Chaka Bars
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: and your strip club. That sums it all up right
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: like that, that sums up to alcoholics.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: This is why he he know this why tripped. He says,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: your you're brethren. You know you know so and so
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 4: and so so. I know you know, I know he's vegan.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: I got the vegan pizza restaurant around in a Lima,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: so I said, he man, go trump a vegan pizza spot.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: Man, Okay, he go.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 4: I not already called and order him a piza, but
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: he going there and just order his own. So now
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: he got too much pizza. And I'm like, you know,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 4: you're so. He said, I got this piece for you.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 4: I'm like, no, this is for you. So now you
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: got this piece. Then he meets me at my strip
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: club and you know, he's like, no, you know I
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: don't drink. You know, I say, get the man some water.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: The man trip out because it's akaline water. He's doun
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: no dancers, no nothing, no dj no i'mbient.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: No, Paul.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: This man said, Yo, Virgin, you got alk line water
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: in the strip club. I've never seen this. This man
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: has acholine water. This man did a drop with me video.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: That man do a drop with me at the club.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: Hey man, this man come to this club. This man
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: got alkaline water. I kind of know the benefits, but
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: I mean the way he was acting.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: No more reasons you should show up.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the Alkalie in Candyland and she come through.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: We got akaline one.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: Day in the life. Well, congratulations, my brother. Get the
• 1:12:15
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• 1:12:18
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• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: book dot com as well. Yeah, enter for the sweep
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: stakes I have for people to actually sit courtside with
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: me at a Harts game. I think I'm gonna be
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: running this sweep stakes up till maybe about March eleventh.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: But you go to two chainsbook dot com. I'm taking
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: care of the rooms. If I have to fly you
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: in and all that stuff. One lucky person gets to
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: sit next to me. All this drip, all this demean
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: not at all all this aura. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: And as I have a disclaimer that I put on
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: every platform that I've been on.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: If you are a female and you have a a
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: different situation at home, a situation that is going through
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: whatever turmoil, or you know you have trust issues at home,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: just know that to tell your significant other that do
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: you're just supporting your supporting me, You're supporting the book,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: nothing more and nothing less. If you are a man,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: if you come to this game with me, I love
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 4: the fact that you are a fan. But if we
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: could talk during timeouts and have time, that'll be cool,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: because I really be watching the game. If you want
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: to talk during the game, I'm not gonna be mad
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: at that, but I just want to let you know
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: how sometimes I'll just be locked in and it may
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: seem like I'm ignoring you. But for the most part,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 4: is for any lucky fan that wants to go through
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: the Owners, I have different experiences.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: I go to the owner, the.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: Where I park, where I park at across from it
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: says owners right there, and then I walk through a
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 4: door and then there's another lounge, not the lounge where
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: you got to have.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: A little bit the little thing I say, you got
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: that little band?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: You see a lot of them doing this in the
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: car breaking own you know break. So it's just I'm
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: offering someone an experience own this lounge to change. I'm
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: not sure if you should ride with me or not.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: I gotta figure that out, but just being next to me,
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: it's a great experience for a game.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: Halftime.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: We can run off why I did this song, who
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: I did this song, why I think this person, whatever,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: But for the most part, you know. Once again, and
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: go to two chainsbook dot com. Make sure you check
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: out my new book, The Voice in My Head is
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: God on all platforms. The audiobook is dope too. And
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: once again, thank thank my boys right here, earn your
• 1:14:45
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• 1:14:48
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• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, appreciate it.
• 1:14:49
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• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: This is how we make sure that it's showing that
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: it's crossing different demographics. And we're gonna have you at
• 1:15:01
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• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: And the last thing is who would be the ideal
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: person to read this book?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: That's a good one, I think. Okay, what voice I
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: here reading them on?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 4: You mean to read it, like, who should read the book?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 4: Who should read the book?
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, man, I think the person that good one.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: If you have ever said something told me, I think
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: you should read the book. Let me see the book.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: If you If you have.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: Ever said something mm hmmm fire. Something told me to
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: watch this episode. Something told me to go balenci book.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: Something told me to wear a silk pajamas and public.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: Something told something told something told you not to do
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: it again. Whatever that is, this book is for you.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: We're gonna try to find out what that's something. We're
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 4: gonna tap into it.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: There you have it. Make sure y'all check it out. Man,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you, My brother appreciate it. Thank you man, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: sir yea