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EP 18 - DILEMMAS: AGE GAPS ? YES/NO · Relatables

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  Speaker 1: Coming up on Relatables. I'm twenty at university and I've
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  Speaker 1: been in kind of a relationship with someone for a
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  Speaker 1: while now. He's forty three, No Relatables. The Relatables podcast
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  Speaker 1: is hosted by myself, Jake Craig aka Daddy, and my
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  Speaker 1: partner in crime, mister Odie Clark aka Mummy. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I justed I've noticed I've never say your middle name. Yeah, No,
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  Speaker 1: I actually really like my middle name Conrad. Yeah. With
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  Speaker 1: the C, I feel like the summer I turn pretty
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  Speaker 1: ruined it a little bit for me. But has he
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  Speaker 1: got an e on the end? Though? I don't know?
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  Speaker 1: I actually don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We should look into that because I would, and Cassie
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  Speaker 2: loves the name, would happily call my son Conrad.
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  Speaker 1: But then it seems a bit eager.
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  Speaker 2: Egotistical is the word I think I'm looking for a
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  Speaker 2: bit egotistical.
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  Speaker 1: You were just egotistical. You wanted to call your kid
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  Speaker 1: Jack Junior. At least mine's the middle name. Hey, But
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy to say that that's full blown egotistical.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't want to keep the name going. What
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  Speaker 2: what does it depend on? The place is coming from?
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  Speaker 2: Though yours is coming because you like, like you want
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  Speaker 2: it to be like you're fucking blown. But mine's because
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  Speaker 2: not that it's because.
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  Speaker 1: I like the name. It's actually a good question. Does
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's still pretty egotistical because you could
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  Speaker 2: you could make it funky and say.
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  Speaker 1: Comrade of a k yeah, or could you because I
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  Speaker 1: used to have a dog named Comrad with an M
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  Speaker 1: for mum in the middle.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But I feel like that's like comrade okay, like
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  Speaker 2: on a walkie talkie like comrade.
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  Speaker 1: Or true, like a comrade is like a friend, like comaraderie, camaraderie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they used to fuck with me. I was like, Comrade.
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  Speaker 1: All I can hear is Conrad. The proof the English
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  Speaker 1: weird can't talk, proof the English language is clapped is
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  Speaker 1: that we have have L M, N, M and N
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  Speaker 1: both exist and they just sound the same. Yeah. I know,
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  Speaker 1: it's pretty confusing.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I reckon if I was I was gonna, I
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  Speaker 2: was trying to like give myself a bit of credit.
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  Speaker 2: I feel that the English language is the hardest one
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  Speaker 2: to learn, even as an English natives English speaker. Oh
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  Speaker 2: what it is, twisters, no wonder so many people have
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  Speaker 2: speech impediments is that where I don't even understand why.
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  Speaker 1: We go to English class at school, Like it's the
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  Speaker 1: language we speak, how do we not know it? Why
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  Speaker 1: more English? You're not getting taught English?
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  Speaker 2: I reckon, we got taught Japanese in school, like great
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  Speaker 2: language and all, but I reckon we should be taught
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  Speaker 2: how to like announciate English words better, or.
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  Speaker 1: Do you I remember in Japanese we one of the
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  Speaker 1: assessments was you and a friend had to have a
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  Speaker 1: conversation in Japanese and you were allowed to rehearse it. Like,
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  Speaker 1: but for some reason, we all sucked so bad at
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  Speaker 1: it in my class, at least we all sucked at it.
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  Speaker 1: And so the tea and like everyone that would go
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  Speaker 1: up in front of the class and do it just
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  Speaker 1: like wouldn't stop laughing. And so she was like fuck it.
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  Speaker 1: She goes every single every single person doing the assessments
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  Speaker 1: are just coming out in the hallway and doing it
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  Speaker 1: and directly in front of the teacher. And so everyone
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  Speaker 1: just had to like one whole lesson just wait and
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  Speaker 1: sit there the whole time and just wait until it
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  Speaker 1: was your turn to go out into the hallway and
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  Speaker 1: do your assessment.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny because in school I got dropped to Jake's class.
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  Speaker 2: That's how we became in the same class. I was
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  Speaker 2: in the top class.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll let me just say, let me do the wall.
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  Speaker 1: But the word that dropped dropped to my classes is
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  Speaker 1: a funny one because we actually entered the class at
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  Speaker 1: the same time. I didn't. I were you got dropped
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  Speaker 1: to the class I got put in.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so our school name was King Kombat and it
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  Speaker 2: went like k was the best, I n cum whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and Jake was in I. But I stayed in my
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  Speaker 2: Japanese class for some reason. That was the only class
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  Speaker 2: I didn't change too.
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  Speaker 1: But I thought that none of the classes were graded
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  Speaker 1: apart from like maths. No, they were. I'm pretty sure
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  Speaker 1: they were.
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  Speaker 2: But I think you just stayed with the same class
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  Speaker 2: for like cohesiveness.
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  Speaker 1: I remember Japanese. But do you remember anything? Yeah, do
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  Speaker 1: you remember any of it? No? No, once you start speaking,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I know one thing, go on, hi augumus. That's
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  Speaker 1: all I know. I remember this, assuming Missenna not to
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  Speaker 1: work sign dez. Yeah, I don't remember that. All I
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  Speaker 1: remember is ohiozmos and I remember thinking like, what does
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  Speaker 1: that mean? Not to work sign. It is Hawaii. What
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  Speaker 1: is ohiozamos? Oh? Hello? Oh really I don't know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. I remember thinking it was the sickest
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  Speaker 1: language because whenever you say something it sounds angry, you
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  Speaker 1: can be like, oh, you just sound so angry. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's good morning because I know more. I know, I
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  Speaker 1: know more Indonesian.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, actually, I've been thinking, actually, in my later life,
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  Speaker 2: I don't do many leisurely things, like for no purpose
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  Speaker 2: of benefiting myself.
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  Speaker 1: I've realized, right, like I try and like.
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  Speaker 2: Do stuff to like optimize is like I grind the gym,
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  Speaker 2: think about think about the podcast, try and get the
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  Speaker 2: podcast better.
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  Speaker 1: That's about my whole life.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't really do anything that, like
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, isn't about benefiting myself. But in a
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  Speaker 2: way this is I was gonna say, I really really
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  Speaker 2: want to start going to like I know they've got
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  Speaker 2: du A Linga and we wanted to get sponsored on
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  Speaker 2: the pod, but like going to an old dude who
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  Speaker 2: teaches me Indonesia and like once a fortnight or something
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  Speaker 2: that that'd be cool, and I feel like it'd be
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  Speaker 2: such such a good thing for my brain too. Just
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  Speaker 2: to use like a part of it that isn't worked.
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  Speaker 1: You should move to a different country for a year,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll just like set up virtual and just do
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  Speaker 1: virtual pods while you're sitting there and just like immerse
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  Speaker 1: yourself in the culture and learn the language.
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  Speaker 2: True, true, true, But I'll start with learning it first
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  Speaker 2: before I go over there, because apparently like deep end,
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  Speaker 2: full on going thrown in the deep end. Apparently I
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  Speaker 2: would go to Indonesia, barley, which everyone speaks English, like,
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  Speaker 2: I'd be fine.
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  Speaker 1: No, you'd have to choose a different country obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the language I want to learn, I
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  Speaker 2: reckon out of Okay, let's go, let's just say, what's
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  Speaker 2: your top?
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  Speaker 1: What's your second? Man? Fuck a good question if I
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  Speaker 1: had to. Are we talking about moving there? Yeah? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's say you're moving there, and you also wouldn't mind
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  Speaker 1: learning the language England? Yuck? You want to that's crazy? Nah?
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  Speaker 2: I really like Asian countries, but I haven't been too many.
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  Speaker 2: South Korea was cool, but I wouldn't live there.
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  Speaker 1: Japan's honestly up there, I reckon, I mean fair. I
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  Speaker 1: was going to say, in South Korea or Japan, and
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  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't want to live where we went in
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  Speaker 1: South Korea. We just want a soul. Ye, it's just
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  Speaker 1: the city. So it was like Sydney. It felt like
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  Speaker 1: Sydney but bigger. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It was just like like where I feel like everything
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  Speaker 2: the way to describe. So everything was square, Yeah, everything
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  Speaker 2: was square and rectangles their favorite shape over there.
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  Speaker 1: But I'd like to go maybe a bit more like
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  Speaker 1: rural and just spend a year really just like connecting
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  Speaker 1: with the land. That's that's another hard word. Rural. That's
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  Speaker 1: a really hard word. I would say if you didn't. Apparently,
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  Speaker 1: apparently r's and l's are actually really hard for people
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  Speaker 1: of Asian descent to learn. Oh well, I guess people
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  Speaker 1: that natively speak and.
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  Speaker 2: They're really good at rolling the tongue, which I can't
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  Speaker 2: do it all. How they go like, I don't give
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  Speaker 2: me what's the word where they you know?
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  Speaker 1: How they say like, I don't think that's the case.
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  Speaker 1: I actually think you're wrong. No, I'm not the roll
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  Speaker 1: on the tongue. I can't roll ship. I think they
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  Speaker 1: can't roll the tongue. I think that's what you mean.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a hundred because my dad owns owns nos Indonesian, my.
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  Speaker 1: Dad owns Indonesia facts anyway, bad. This is a massive
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  Speaker 1: sidetrack too, a dilemmas episode. Why we love doing these Jake,
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  Speaker 1: with the prompt being, what is it? Should I do it?
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  Speaker 1: Should I do it?
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  Speaker 2: Often a big question on this podcast, and we are
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  Speaker 2: the people to say yes, but also say the hard truth.
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  Speaker 1: It's kind of like should I I guess it's kind
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  Speaker 1: of should I do it? You'll see. There's a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a theme to these.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're doing something a little bit different today.
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  Speaker 2: Jake's reading them all Yeah, yeah, yeah, I chose them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm unbeknownst unknown anymore more English describing words. I
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  Speaker 2: am in the dark, I am ignorant, ignorant, I am blindfolded, naive,
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  Speaker 2: I am tied up, blindfolded and.
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  Speaker 1: Ready stupid Yeah, stupid one. All right, take it away, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: dilemma submission. But that's what they called this, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: they titled it dilemma of their proper Hi. I need
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  Speaker 1: help because I fear I have become emotionally attached to
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  Speaker 1: a man who was never once given me so, who
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  Speaker 1: has never once given me a clear reason to be
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  Speaker 1: There is this guy I've had this weird, drawn out,
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  Speaker 1: year long, confusing crush thing with for way too long,
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  Speaker 1: and I genuinely cannot tell if there's unfinished business between
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  Speaker 1: us or if I'm just addicted to the ambiguity. Oh
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  Speaker 1: big word, nothing ever fully happens, but also nothing ever
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  Speaker 1: fully ends. Will have moments that feel weirdly intimate, or
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  Speaker 1: he'll say slash do just enough to make me spiral
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  Speaker 1: into thinking maybe there is something there, typically at parties,
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  Speaker 1: and then he'll go right back to acting casual, detached,
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  Speaker 1: or like I imagined the whole thing. And unfortunately I'm
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  Speaker 1: not innocent here either, because I act like I'm chill,
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  Speaker 1: mysterious and above it all. I have also embarrassed myself
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  Speaker 1: plenty once I heard he was into this girl, and
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  Speaker 1: I went through the account of the sorority she was
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  Speaker 1: in and cross referenced every girl with his following. The
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  Speaker 1: worst part is that I can't even fully call him
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  Speaker 1: toxic like my friends do, because that would make this easier.
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  Speaker 1: He's not awful, and he's not even consistently bad enough
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  Speaker 1: for me to hate him. I'm not even a thought
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  Speaker 1: in his mind, but somehow he manages to stay in
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  Speaker 1: my life. In this low effort, high impact way that
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  Speaker 1: keeps me from ever fully moving on with his little
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  Speaker 1: comments that mean so much, like texting me from two
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  Speaker 1: am the next morning after seeing him out at a bar,
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  Speaker 1: or asking me to do girl friend favors as a
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  Speaker 1: joke if he wanted to be with me. Sorry, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if he wanted to be with me, he would have
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  Speaker 1: by now. And yet every time I'm almost over it,
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  Speaker 1: it comes back to me in a dream or a memory.
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  Speaker 1: Even when he moved away for a half for half
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  Speaker 1: a year and we weren't in close proximity, I would
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  Speaker 1: go periods without thinking about him, and it would come
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  Speaker 1: back to me. At this point, I think I have
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  Speaker 1: been outright rejected. Oh no, she said, I think I
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  Speaker 1: haven't been outright rejected. So it feels like there is
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  Speaker 1: still a chance, even though I don't ever see this happening.
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  Speaker 1: He is leaving and I might never see him again.
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  Speaker 1: What if I just grow up and confess like Conrad
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  Speaker 1: did to Belly at the beach and get awkwardly turned
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  Speaker 1: down in order to move on, Because as much as
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  Speaker 1: I imagined it, I don't think I will ever get
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  Speaker 1: the satisfaction of him being like it was always you.
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  Speaker 1: I thought you knew. So my dilemma is how do
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  Speaker 1: you let go of someone you never dated but absolutely
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  Speaker 1: did enough to alter your rain chemistry. When he came
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  Speaker 1: into my life, I thought he would be a love interest,
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  Speaker 1: but instead he lives in this in between space. And
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  Speaker 1: more importantly, how do I know if I'm sensing unresolved
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  Speaker 1: tension or if I just need to stand up and
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  Speaker 1: destroy any thought of this in my mind? Interesting? This
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  Speaker 1: is very poetic. Yeah, she put this in Chatwood and
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  Speaker 1: just be like, make me sound like a Shakespeare Quite
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things to unpack here, my dear friend
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  Speaker 1: j e O. Malfoy. I don't know why Malfoy sounded
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  Speaker 1: poetic to me. It just kind of sounding good. How
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  Speaker 1: do they talk in Shakespeare? Oh? No, like thy doth
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  Speaker 1: thy damsel needeth the help? Yes, damnsel damsel. Damsel is
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  Speaker 1: in a pickle.
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  Speaker 2: She is caught between a rock and a hard case
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  Speaker 2: that she's her self end.
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  Speaker 1: The damsel is stuck in a jar, brining for a time.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I like that one. Firstly, Okay, let's see if
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  Speaker 2: I can remember everything. First one, sororities have Instagram accounts.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: America is a different world. What do you do?
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  Speaker 2: What do they post like fucking blind, blindfolded, like fucking
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  Speaker 2: pissed on?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the fuck?
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  Speaker 2: I think that would be more of a men's what's
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  Speaker 2: the man's one called?
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  Speaker 1: So sororities, there's like usually a women's house and a
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  Speaker 1: men's house. Yeah, so they both. Yeah, so like she
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  Speaker 1: she was going and looking in the women's sorority Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: What are they doing? Probably crazy ship. Yeah, they're doing it,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know if they're posting the crazy shit
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram. They're not.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably just like it's probably a ship for their parents,
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  Speaker 2: like make it seem like it's a normal place.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's just the craziest thing to me that sororities
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  Speaker 1: exist and it's still the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, second thing to break down, How funny is it
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  Speaker 2: we we spoke about Conrad at the start.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even know. I didn't. I know it's funny.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't read up to that part of the dilemma
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  Speaker 1: when I chose.
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  Speaker 2: It because you brought up your fucking liar. No, I
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  Speaker 2: actually didn't actually brought up my middle name.
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  Speaker 1: Did you subconsciously do it? Because I told you I
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  Speaker 1: didn't read up to that part of the dilemma before
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  Speaker 1: I chose to Jake before we started. This is a
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  Speaker 1: really good dilemma and you didn't even read off of it. No,
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  Speaker 1: I did. I definitely read up to the last paragraph. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she said that in the last paragraph, and there's three
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  Speaker 1: four paragraphs and I read the first three. This damnsel
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  Speaker 1: was probably like I shot up and fucking helped me.
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  Speaker 2: Look, honestly, this is tough because like, you never dated,
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  Speaker 2: and then like I guess that should we just treated
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  Speaker 2: as if she did date him, because she did in
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  Speaker 2: her head and that's all that matters. I mean, maybe,
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  Speaker 2: or because you could say the harsh truth. But also
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  Speaker 2: I kind of don't believe that in the fact of like, it.
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  Speaker 1: Should be easy to get over him because you never
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  Speaker 1: nothing ever actually happened. Here's why I kind of think
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  Speaker 1: she should do what she said, and I think she
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  Speaker 1: should go confess everything to him and just see what.
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  Speaker 2: Happens it's true, because there's that little percentage that it
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  Speaker 2: could be true, and then also closure if you're more
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  Speaker 2: likely wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Like because if he denies you, then at least you
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  Speaker 1: have closure, but he doesn't. He doesn't have a Scooby Doo,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on? Surely do you reckon? Though?
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  Speaker 2: Surely you know how Conrad said in the summer, I
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  Speaker 2: term pretty it was always you, Brey.
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  Speaker 1: Was that Conrad or Jeremiah? I don't know one of them.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he was lying. I feel like he
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  Speaker 1: was just saying that to get her.
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  Speaker 3: Honest Yeah, that's what.
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  Speaker 1: I thought, And it wasn't always her because at one
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  Speaker 1: point he was like, like, she was like a fucking
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  Speaker 1: five and he was like ten. Yeah, it was a
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  Speaker 1: bit older than her.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we can actually help this damnsel a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I think what's what's the time period?
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  Speaker 1: I think, like, to be honest with you, like years,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy. Let's just say a few years.
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  Speaker 2: Being relatable though, I remember, hm, I remember like my
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  Speaker 2: first in quotes.
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  Speaker 1: Love was really really hard to get over because.
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  Speaker 2: Like we've said it so many times, you build up
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  Speaker 2: this false version of them in your head and then
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  Speaker 2: you become obsessed with that a little bit. You don't
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  Speaker 2: actually become obsessed with them, Yeah, which is so normal,
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  Speaker 2: And I guess you've just done it prior to dating,
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  Speaker 2: which is still the same fucking thing. Because I remember
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  Speaker 2: that my partner that that partner was not what I
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  Speaker 2: thought they.
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  Speaker 1: Were hard one. I would say, you like kind of
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  Speaker 1: when you're young, at least from my experience, you it's
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I had a boss one time tell me I think
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  Speaker 1: I might have recently broken up with my first girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: at the time, and I had just like told him,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he kind of was just like genuinely
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  Speaker 1: asking how I was, and I was like, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of telling him, like why we broke up
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  Speaker 1: and stuff, and he was like and I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I should have broken up with it a while ago,
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  Speaker 1: and he was saying like, yeah, It's one thing to remember,
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  Speaker 1: is like there's a pretty good chance it's just lust
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  Speaker 1: not love, like you're lusting for this person. And there's
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  Speaker 1: a difference.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: And the harsh reality of being older and looking back
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: in hindsight is when you're in it, it definitely feels like love.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: That most of the relationships I experienced anyway was one
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: hundred percent last.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: When I was in it, I thought it was love,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: but yeah, of course, yeah, But.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Now in hindsight, I'm like, oh, wait a minute, like
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: what the hell?
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I look, there's like a level of love
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Different versions of love, I guess, and you grow to
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: love someone differently and more deeply the older you get.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: But I think this is a classic case of that
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: you are thinking about what could have been, not what
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: there was?
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Are you Are you missing out on opportunities because you're
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: obsessed with this guy too? Because if that's the case,
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: then I think you should move on and forget about it.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you're going out and.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Beautiful men are coming up to you and saying like, hey, hey,
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: do you want to fucking go on a day, and
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, in your head thinking about bloody Conrad.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Hey, I still I would still absolutely recommend just telling
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: him the truth and seeing what happens, because there's no
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: better way to get closure than do it. Yeah, exactly.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: And it kind of like I feel like, leave your
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: pride at the door. I feel like the hardest thing
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: about having these conversations is you can never get out
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: truly with how you feel or what you think in
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: the time because you're thinking like you don't want it
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: to be awkward like you said, or you don't want
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: them to think you're crazy, blah la la lah, like
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: fuck all that shit. Leave it at door, Leave it
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: at the door and be unapologetically you you know what,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: I agree, Ondie, and then fuck him true.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: If you can. Yeah. Yeah.
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: At the end, I feel like, yeah, it's cherry on top,
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: all right, big old cherry, Hey love the party.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Got a bit of a dilemma. So I'm a financial
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: consultant and so is my boyfriend. And no line of work.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Once you financial consultant, yeah, in our line of work,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: once you start building a team and recruiting, you move
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: up and earned you earn over rides from your associates
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: on top of your own advisory sales. Okay, sounds a
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: bit pyramid schemey, but okay. Yeah. AnyWho, he's not keen
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: on team building and he just wants to focus on
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: his own. But I have so much aspirations to build
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a team, to help people achieve what they can achieve
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: and eventually promote to be an executive director. But he
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: is comfortable with where he is now. We've been working
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: together for about two years now and we're keen to
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: get a place together. Problem is, houses are like one
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to two million at least, so we need heaps of
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: cash for the deposit and to sort the loan. Here's
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: where it gets tricky. He's been in the industry for
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: four years but hasn't really been doing that well where
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: I've been doing it for two years and I've already
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: done like five x of what he's done. I've pretty
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: much sorted my side of the cash already, but he's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: still quite far behind. He's honestly amazing and does heaps
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: for me, and I know he loves me a lot,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: but I can't help stressing about the financial side, especially
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: since our goal is to get the house by twenty
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: twenty eight. I don't feel right telling him to quit
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: or change careers. I don't want to control his life.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, if this job isn't working
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: for him, maybe his success is somewhere else question Mark.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: The thing is, he genuinely believes what he so, he
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: genuinely loves what he does, helping clients planning their finances.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: All of that. I think what's making it harder is
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: that I'm super career driven and I've been really working
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: towards what we both said we wanted, which is having
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: like three hundred to four hundred K cash saved in
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: the next two years. I feel like I'm doing everything
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: i can to get us there, but he's just not
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: quite on the same pace. So now I just feel
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: really stuck. I don't want to break up because I
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: love him, but the money side is always in the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: back of my mind. What would you do? Oh, what
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: would you do? What would you do? Is a good question.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: No one ever says that, always say what should I do?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like a great dilemma because it's funny
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: that their financial advisors too, and she's asking about advice
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: about finances, because in any relationship, platonic friendship or romantic,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: dealing with money makes everything hard, really hard. And I
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: think if you went back and read exactly what you
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: sent him, I think you could reflect a lot on
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: what you said, because you said he loves what he
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: does and he's like, really enjoys helping people, which to
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: me is worth more than any money. If he's getting
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: up every day and he's passionate about it. I think
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: your versions of success are completely different. And your version
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: of success is making a fuck ton of money. Fair
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: good on you. But his version of success is helping people,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: which is still good in a different sort of way,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: and just the byproduct isn't as much money, which I
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: if I was you liketually said, I wouldn't care at all.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: That's his life and he's happy. Okay, I'm pretty similar
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: to you. The only thing that I would say, I
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: want to flag is the fact that he has like
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: they've sat down and have had a conversation saying that
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: they want to buy a house by twenty twenty eight,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: agreed and and she's pretty much got her half already
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and he's like far behind. So he's still got two
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: years three hundred to four hundred k. Like you guys
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: must be raking it in.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: If she's got half and she did it in two years,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: like unless you already had heaps of money, like two
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: hundred k.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: That's a good point, Like I wonder so, but maybe.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: But so she's obviously like just done a lot better
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: in that industry, So I assume she actually makes quite
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: a bit more money and he is less driven to
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: get to the place where she's at in the same industry,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: at the same company. It sounds like they work together.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: It's a hard one. You need to probably have a
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: sit down and just be like it's hard. I see
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: why you're upset, because if he from the beginning was
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: like I don't want to like I want you to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: know that I love my job, but I love doing
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: it at the pace I'm doing it, Like if he
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: was honest from the beginning, like I'm sure he was,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: but you guys also obviously sat down and said, let's
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: buy a house by twenty twenty eight, that would be great,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: Like that's a goal of ours. And now he hasn't
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: done the right things to be at the same pace
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: as you. That's the issue. Like, I don't think the
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: issue of him not being as career driven as you
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: is bad at all, Like you said, his version of
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: success is just different to your version. The only issue
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: I see in this whole thing is the fact that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: he said he wants to buy a house by twenty
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: twenty eight, and now he's not the same place as you.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but also I think, like you said, a check
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: in is needed because like, is he not at the
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: same place or he's just moving to the place slowly
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: on his own time, because twenty twenty eight, he could
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: just be chipping away fifty k, fifty k, fifty fifty
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: k over four years and that's two hundred k, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: now he's only got one hundred or something, like we
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: don't know where he's at.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Saving fifty k in a year a lot, you guys,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: if you can say fifty k, yes, pretty good. Well.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: The hard thing too, is though, like his version of
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: working is he capped at how much money he could make.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Because it's great in order to have a conversation with
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: your partner and be like, oh, I would love to
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: buy a house in twenty twenty eight, and I think
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: we obviously need four hundred K, But then he's out
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: here making an eighty k and then she's making one
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: hundred and fifty k, like, and there's nothing he can
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: do about it other than join this Pyramids game.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Trure. You know what's actually a good thing to point
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: out is that that is a bit tricky, right, is like,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: so I don't know, I feel like there isn't really
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: anything wrong with both wanting to buy a house by
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, but also like he's happy doing what
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: he's doing. He genuinely loves his job, which but like
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: he doesn't earn as much as you, and now you
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: earn I'm assuming quite a bit more because you said
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: that you five XD what he's done in two years,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, yeah, there's a bit of
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: a blurred line in here. I think I don't know
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: what to do.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm thinking too, like if our partners worked
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: in a bi or a cafe and they made eight
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars a year, and then I'm like, we said
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: we wanted to buy a house and you've only saved
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: forty like, but I'm like, what do you mean? But
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: then she's also captain earning potential, Like there's a there
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: is a very blurred line there, and is his cap
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: because he's doing it in his own way which makes
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: him happy?
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Is that the line? Okay, here's what Okay, she said,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: what would you do? Here's what I would do? I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: would This is just me, right. I can't speak for Roddie,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and I can't speak for you Baddie that sent this in.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: But if I in this particular situation, I would sit
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: down with my significant other and I would say, look,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: two years time is when we said we want to
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: have a house board, right, I just want to know
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: if you are definitely planning on getting there or if
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: you know, like where you're at, because like, I'm definitely
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: on track. And then if he's like, oh, look, I'm
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: like not on track, And then you could be like, well,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: let's like are you are you happy like this? Like
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: and if he's happy, like, who are you to say?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: Like speed the thing, like speed this up and work harder,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: because you know it's like if you really want to
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: maybe be with the person, you would just extend the
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: time that you buy the house. Maybe I would.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: I would even break down like taking this taking the
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: right steps into percentages, Like if he's making like a
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: normal amount of money and he's saving a lot of
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: percentage of that to get to your goal that you've
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: talked about, I think that's all that matters, not he's
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: saving the same percentage of your income. Yeah, and like
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: you can tell he's trying really hard to do that.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I think that the trying is all the matters. But
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: if he's making ship money and then he's not even trying,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to say, that's where the problem is. But if he's
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: trying really hard and he's just not making a lot
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: of money, I think you're fine. I agree, And I also.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Want to say, like if this is a deal break
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Like if you are thinking I kind of want to
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: break up with him for this, and you're feeling super guilty,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: it's super guilty about it. Like I understand why you
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: feel guilty, but at the same time, like this is
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: allowed to be a bigger issue for you. Yeah, for
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Audie and myself it's not a big issue, and for
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: him maybe it's not a big issue, or for maybe
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: you've got friends where it's not a big issue, but
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: like if it's a big issue for you, like this
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: is your life.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was going to say too buying a
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: house together. Obviously, how long have they been dating? I
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: don't know, because buying a house together in a relationship,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be fifty to fifty When you
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: love someone.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: It's hard. It's a hard one, ay, Like that's a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: good point.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: It's hard because you're in the same career, Like you
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: can kind of argue that you could make the same
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: amount of money. But like, when I'm eventually ready to
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: buy a house with my partner, it's going to be
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: what can we put up together?
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Like what were like that lump sum is us not?
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Like see, that's that's the way I see it too,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Like if I have one hundred and fifty K and
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Beth has a fifty K, or if she has one
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty K and I have fifty K like
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the way I see it. So say I'm the one
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: with more, I have three times the amount she has,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Like if she's putting in all the money she's saved,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: we're both putting in everything we have, So we are
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: putting in fifty to fifty if that makes sense, because
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: like we're in it for the endgame.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, at that point, it isn't even a split like
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: where one entity, there's not fifty fifty, it's one hundred percent.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: So I also people see that very differently, especially if
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: you're going into it. You'm looking at it as more
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: of an investment prior to like the longevity of it,
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: because we're very techy there. But my passive advice is
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: just check in, talk to him, see where he's at,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: and it might clear everything up itself.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: You never know. Yeah, I wouldn't mind an update on
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: this one, if I'll be honest with you. So what,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I love that all right? Next to a lemma, Hi boys,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of the pod and I'm running
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: in from the UK, I mean year thirteen. Also, sorry
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: if this is a bit long. I even put it
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: through chat CHIPPYTI to tidy it up because clearly us
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Brits can't even use the language we invented properly. Eh,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: we love we love an accountability baddie year thirteen. Does
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: that mean she's like repeating, No, that's a thing? Oh?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Is that a thing in the UK? Yeah? Year thirteen
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: is the thing in Australia. Baddie. That just sounded like
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you're really dumb. It sounds like you did you twelve
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: twice because we finished in your twelve. Yeah. She said. Also,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: please keep this synonymous because he's secretly a baddie and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: also listens what agreen flag, let's go. I need help
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: because I genuinely can't tell if I've made this whole
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: situation up in my head or if there's actually something there.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I'm eighteen, and so is this boy. He goes to
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: private school near me, so I don't see him loads,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: but we've built a pretty good friendship. We actually started
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: off beefing in a group chat, but then it turned
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: into casual messaging and now we talk pretty much all
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the time. We've got the same humor. He's really easy
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to talk to, and he's very much a lad's lad
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and quite popular ooh ooh. For the past year, he
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: was in a situationship, and I was basically his therapist.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: This is getting worse. Yeah, it is. I knew everything,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: including really personal stuff, and he'd always come to me
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: for advice. It ended because she cheated on him, but
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: he also admitted to me that he cheated on her
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: earlier and never told her. And I'm the only person
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: he's ever told that to. Look, why do you want
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: to adding that? Girl? Adding that last bit in there
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: is making like I'm sorry, but you're sliding yourself into
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: being feeling special that you're the only person that knows that,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: but like you know that, and that's insane.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine this baddie like is like on
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: a table like mister Burns with her fingers up, going
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: like yes, I only special, all right?
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Because we're so comfortable. Sometimes it feels like the line
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: between just friends and something else is a bit blurred.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any point in dating right now
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: because of exams, UNI and fresh as, but I can't lie.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I am very attracted to him and would one hundred
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: percent hook up with him if the opportunity came up.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I also think if timing was different, I probably would
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: date him. He has a car and I've literally had
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: dreams about him picking me up and something happening. He
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: also plays golf at the golf course on my road
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: and has told me to meet him there, but we've
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: never actually hung out one on one. Oh, we've got
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: a level. We've got a levels in seven weeks, which
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I assume is tests, then a whole summer before we
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: both moved to London. Different unis though, so it feels
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: like that's the only real chance anything could happen. Also,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: he saves my STAPs, which I barely send, and I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: always ask why and sorry and always ask why I
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: don't send more? What the fuck do I do? Love
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: you guys, anything can happen. What I took away from
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: that in the UK is such a weird place. Fresh
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: as we had schoolies it was called as a level
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: fresh as you took freshes as like a schoolies thing.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that makes sense, that makes sense. A levels
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: or whatever she said is atar, I shure, Yeah, well
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: like ours is called atar.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Like that's weird, like the HC and shit, yeah, okay, okay,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: So we got ourselves a young baddie who's in love.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Should I do it? Yeah? I wish you should have
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: you should have left out that cheated part.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: I would have been more sympathetic towards him in young love.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: But this is quite this is quite a fun experiment.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Let's put our young eighteen year old hats on and
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: how we felt in this situation.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Because I remember being excited about like I'm still excited
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: about my girlfriend, but excited and nervous.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: I phrase that dumb about girls, wasn't going to hang
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: out with him and never hang out one on one
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: with my crush. And then like I sort of talked
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: to him, but I sort of don't and in my
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: head we're hooking up, but then also like he has
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: no idea, but also we kind of do.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Like it's just so exciting and fun. It is. It
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: is exciting and fun. Yeah, do you think she should
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: do it? Here's the thing? Do what fuck him? Why not?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm thinking he's a good fuck. I wouldn't
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: date him. Yeah, he sounds to me like like you
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: should hook up with him, but you shouldn't, like you know,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: she kind of said that too, like I don't think
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I could date him right now, but like maybe in
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: another time I would have, but I do. I am
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: very attracted to him and I'd hook up with him.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And honestly, you would be playing to any boy's
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: dream if all you want to do is fuck. To
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: watch out for emotions. We obviously don't condone fucking too much,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: but there is a time and a place, especially when
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: there's last involved.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't condone like having sex regularly without putting
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a label on it and being like we're friends with
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: benefits because like come on, yeah exactly, but like, honestly,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: this is such a cool opportunity for a young baddie
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: bit to go up to this guy's obviously going to
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: say yes if all you want to do is have
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: sex with him and be like hey, like you want
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: to hang out, you want to pick me up, and
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: like we can go see what happens, like like genuinely though,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: like you set it in here, like if you had
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: the chance to look up with him, you would because
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you're super attracted to him, but you wouldn't date him
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: right now because of all the thing's going on. So like,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Kim just just straight up this message him and be like, look,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: how does she do it? Just be like I don't
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: want anything, but I would like you to know that
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm very open to hooking up. Ooh yeah, like bro,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I would get a bone off. I'm trying to think
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: of eighteen year old Jake, like you know what I mean,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Like it's immature, but you know you've got to do
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: these things and and and girl, like you're the one
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: that is, I guess, in control of the situation, like
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: you just go out and get what you want, and
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: you never know, like doing this might just get you
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: to go out and get whatever you want in life,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: like in Gene. Honestly, fuck it, reckon, that'd be so fun.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I remember that like stage two, though I remember vividly.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know how old I was.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: It was like I want to say maybe, and we
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: didn't have the communication skills to say what we're saying.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And I was out with all the boys, and she
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: like wanted to pick me up and I thought she
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: was just going to give me.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: A lift time.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: So I was like, oh, I don't worry about I
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: don't worry I'll just to stay out. And then I
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: found out, like a couple of weeks later that she
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: wanted to fuck that after.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: We did it, and I was like I would have
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent left. Yeah, I would have left I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: thought she was.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Just being like nice and asked if I wanted to
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: left home, because that was asking if she wanted to fuck,
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: And I was.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Like, what the hell? But if you had the yeah,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: there was no insinuation in that. Yeah, exactly. You something
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: once a major, major thing that I missed when I
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: was younger. It was just a kiss. To be fair,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I hadn't had sex yet. Oh maybe I had, Yeah,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: who cares, doesn't matter. Yeah, but I was. It was
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: still young enough where like you know, just getting a
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: kiss from someone was still just like he yeah right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: So year ten formal, Oh yeah, sitting at the table
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, the girl I went. The girl I
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: went to the former with actually asked me to go.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: She's because she does browns and sit now.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my girlfriend, My girlfriend goes through it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: No, no, I knew she did. I we we actually
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: after school like stayed friends a little bit, and like
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: never ever anything romantic ever happened. But just like if
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: I saw her in public, lab would say hi and stuff.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: But I just remember her at the year ten formal
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: putting some like lip balm or lip gloss on. Yeah,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, I don't even know if
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I said anything. I think maybe one of her friends
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: were like, oh, you know, what's the flavor? And she
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: said the flavor and I was like, oh cool, and
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: she goes, oh, you want to try some M and
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, nah, that you wanted to kiss you?
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. I never actually found that out,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: but I was thinking, like I remember maybe like a
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: week or two after it, being like, I don't know,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: was she just gonna give me the bottle or was
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: she gonna kiss me? Like I think what I missed
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: was an opportunity. Yeah, you did miss an opportunity. And
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: is this baddie missing an opportunity? I think so? Yeah.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I reckon just say to him exactly what maybe you
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: said to us and be like, yeah, let's just keep
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: this chill with his friends. We're going to hook up
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and be done with it exactly. All right. Last dilemma,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: This one is a loos e Okay, okay, okay. The
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: title is is twenty three years really that big of
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: an age gap? Oh shit? Yes, yes, fucking we're going
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: to dive into that, Jake. I don't know if I
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: want to dive into that. Yehs. Wait wait if you
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: see twenty three quick maps. If he's over forty six,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: that's fucking crazy. I'm twenty at university and I've been
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: in kind of a relationship with someone for a while.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Now he's forty three. No, we met through a wine
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: bar in my hometown where I used to sing and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: still do when I'm back. What started as just chatting
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: turned into something deeper, deeper, and now it's hard to
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: deny how strong it is between us. Before anyone jumps
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to conclusions, I'm not naive and I'm not being manipulated.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: If anything, We've both been very aware of how this looks.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: We've had long, honest conversations about whether it's wrong, whether
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: it's fair, whether it's sustainable. But the truth is he's
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: one of the kindest, most emotionally present people I have
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: ever been with. How many people have been with them
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: twenty Anyway, it doesn't feel toxic or unbalanced. It feels calm, safe,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: and mutual. The complication is we haven't told anyone, not family,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: not mutual friends, the reason our lives. People in our
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: lives just think that we're close. I'm also close with
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: his family, which makes everything feel both more real and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: more complicated. So I guess my dilemma is is something
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: genuinely wrong or is or just something society is uncomfortable with?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: And at what point does an age gap stop being
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: a red flag and start being a relationship.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I need to watch what I say here.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I will point out very quickly that I personally very
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: much disagree with this.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I think hard thing to see when you're in it.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: It happens all through school, when fucking twenty year olds
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: start dating fifteen year olds, especially men the type of
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: forty three year old man to have the mindset to
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: think that it's okay to talk to a twenty year
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: old woman is fucking crazy.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: But also to claim that you're self aware and understand
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: how it looks. And I assume admit that it's slightly inappropriate,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: more than slightly, but I assume in your position that
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: you're just saying slightly like to be quote unquote self
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: aware about those things, but then keep on doing it
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: is a problem.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like it at all, But also like,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I think, like I should tell you to stop, but
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: who's to say if she's I know.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some people would argue that love is love is.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Love like but the hard thing to see is like
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: in your if I was this twenty year old baddie,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: it's like cool and exciting. He's got his life together,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: he's got money, he's talking about the future, and you're taking.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Like three steps ahead really really quickly.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: But if you look like look in his shoes, he's
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: a forty three year old man who's single and he's
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: talking to a twenty year old woman for some reason.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: What is that reason? Because he's fucking creepy. I had
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: to be said. It had to be said.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: He's creepy, like to have the intentions when he first
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: talked to you, to think you were attractive in that
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: he would like to pursue that. Have that cognitive switch
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: is crazy.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: To me, Like I just if my dad this, I
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: would bead my father. Yeah. Like like no, I'm sorry,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: but like forty three and twenty this I feel like
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: can being really mean? But whatever, it's just how we
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: feel like prove us wrong in the comments cool, Like
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: I'm happy to take words back that I say. If
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: you guys can make valid arguments, right, I feel like
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: we've proven that.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: I think the only there's no valid argument. The only
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: valid argument is that the bad is happy to do it,
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: which is fine.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. Like I guess, you know, arguably,
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: we'll not arguably like on in a black and white sense.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: It's legal. You're of age, you can make your own decisions.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: You're an adult, and we want you to be happy.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: But all I want to say is, like if my
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: dad just like started dating someone my age, like, because
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: that's the age gap. I'm twenty six and my dad's
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: fifty five, no excuse me, fifty two. He'd hated it
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: for I said that it's fifty two, so even a
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: couple years younger than me. And I'm like, Dad, what
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: are you doing? And he goes, all right, Look, you
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: just have so much in common, and we can could
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: be like, no, you don't. The thing is you don't
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: have so much in common, Like that's the thing is,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Like you don't like you have more in common with
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: a rock. I'm sorry. Like you guys are in such
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: different places. Like Dad, you've raised four children. Yeah yeah,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: you know, he might have any kids, but it's like dad,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: point like literally or I'd be like Dad, when you
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: were her age, you literally had to call someone on
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: a landline. Yeah yeah, Like she's never known that, I.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Think, she answered her own question too, because she says,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: we haven't told any of our families.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: Is a reason you haven't told any of your families?
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to bring someone home and the
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: people you love most, your mom, your dad, your brother,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: your sister, whatever, you think that they're gonna fucking think
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: he's weird, creepy and whatever you're thinking, that's the reason
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: you haven't told him.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: There's a problem there, there's a major problem. Like I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: again though, like you know how you did like before
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: when you said, like, the only thing that could convince
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: us that it's right is if the baddie makes a choice.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: She's happy and she says it's okay, Like that's the
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: only thing.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and even but like surface deep deep in it,
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: it's weird, but also a surface level like you're going
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: out to dinner and ship people are gonna be thinking
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: you're going to dinner with.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Your dad one like why do you And you have
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: to accept that you can't get mad at people. You can't.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: But look, at the end of the day, end of
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: the day, all that matters is it's your life. And
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: if you're happy, you're happy. But you've just got to
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: be prepared for like family, is going to think you're weird.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Friends are gonna think you're weird. Outlooker is going to
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: think it's weird.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Blah la la la la la lah. But if you're happy, happy, Yeah,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: if you can overlook all of that, right, then cool
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: literally more like more power to you. Yeah, I know
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. You came to the wrong place though,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: to get it, to get the advice where it's like
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: we love is love. Who's gonna suck? Who's going to
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: get that fucking advice? Fuck knows. I don't know someone
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: has done it is Yeah, true, I don't see.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: My biggest age gap is like, go to past thirty
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: and forty ten years?
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Is my max thirty? Yeah, like if you if you
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: were twenty eight and he was like forty, I'd probably
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: be like you look a little little bit weird. But
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: like it's twelve years, Like I have a actually whoa
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: hold up? Hold the phone? What now? Wait? So this
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: is how many years? Was this again in twenty three?
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Twenty three? Hey? Hold up, I have a case study.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: I have a case study. My cousin was I want
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to say, I'm going to say early twenties. I'm pretty
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: sure she was twenty one though, but early twenties when
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: she started dating her now husband, also father to both
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: of she has two children, father to both of her children. Right,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: he's been part of the family for a long time. Yeah,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: he I believe is I want to say, like fifteen
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: years older than her. A little bit better still, but
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: it's still not great. Yeah. I remember. It's like he's
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the same age as my auntie who's nearly fifty, and
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: my cousin is early thirties, so it's not quite twenty years,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: but it's like kind of getting up there. And I
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: remember when I was quite young when I first found out,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: and I didn't I have an opinion, I had no idea,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: but I remember learning a couple of years later, like
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: her parents were like what the fuck? But then like
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: they just accepted it, and like they're still together and
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: they're happy. Like I like him. I'm happy to admit
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: it can work. But you just have to have all
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: the pieces to the puzzle.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: And I guess the biggest one in that too, is
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: what is your mindset towards having kids? Because his clock's ticking,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: like not be a maid. Yeah, to be fair, it's
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: a good point. I will say this as well.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: When with my cousin, Like I can't speak for her,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: but I think it's like it's pretty it's like sort
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: of easy to observe at least. So you talk about
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: being different ages, right, so it's like you're at a
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: very different place in life than he is, like he's
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: forty three or twenty one. But in the case of
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: my cousin, you could argue, like it's easy when you
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: see it. Like I think even though he was like
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: fifteen years older than my cousin, they were like mentally
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: and what's like maturity level was like they were at
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: the same place in life, which is what they and
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: so they yeah, and so even though there's like a
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: fifteen year gap between them, like they've just been at
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the same place in life this whole time. So like
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: when they had kids was just like when she was
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: ready and he was like also like you know what,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I'm ready, Like I'm nearly fifty, Like we may as
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: well have a kid, like you know what I mean.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, And that's if it's bad. He wants
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: to be because a lot of women as soon as
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: they turn eight, nine and twenty, I think I.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Would love to be a fucking mother right now, and
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: to be fair, like why not.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly there's nothing and that's a good thing, but a
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: lot of But then my girlfriend the opposite has the
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: mindset of like I need to experience things for myself.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: I need to go traveling. I need to learn about myself.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: I need another four or five years by myself. And
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: if you have that long, yeah, there's no wrong way
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: to do it. But if you have that in you
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: and you think I need to go travel I need
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: to do that. I need to find out about myself.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I would say he's not the right man. But if
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: you're ready to be like start a family and that's
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: what you guys are talking about.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: Then maybe he is the right man. But also look, yes,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: his clock's ticking. But like also if you go like
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: connect on a deepest fuck level, like we'll like are
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: falling in love, and where you're out in life is
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: let's say you are like I want to experience the world.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I want to travel, I want to go to Europe.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I want to go to America. Maybe you' from America,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but anyway, like I want to do
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: these things and he's also like that, like he's also
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: at that place, then like you guys are at the
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: same place in life. I think that's the biggest like
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: thing is like when you guys are ready to have
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: a child, I assume you want to have kids. He's
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: forty three. Does he have kids? Yeah? Yeah.
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: It gets tricky too because like it's ambiguous, ambiguous, it's
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: fucking because like, if you have kids him, do you
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: want him to be planning footy with his fucking son
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: when he's twelve and shit because you probably have to
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: have it soon. Or do you want him to be
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: like holding a beer and shit and then like watching
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: his kid play footy when he.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Sees, hey, he might be fit. You never know.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: True, true, But then it takes that out of the
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: equation with normal age differences.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: Our manager fifty two, Yeah, that motherfucker is going to
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: be chilling at sixty. I man to just fit guys.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: He looks great, but also havn't and then it gets
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: in his whole life and all I would my advice,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: would you just fucking just think about it, fucking like actually,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: fucking don't go into something about things. Just think about
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: every single possible which you normally don't have to do
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: too much in a normal age relationship, but just thinking.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you could just jump into a normal age
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: one because it's like the societal norm, you know, like
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: like you said, like in society saying this is bad.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's different. It's just just thinking, I
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: don't know.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to fucking have sex with a man
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: who's fucking forty three twenty three years.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Ouder me he might be a silver fox bro still,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I've got a weird debate with that.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: But anyway, that's my personal opinion. Yeah, you're right, you're right.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's going to come down to a personal
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: opinion and whatever choice you make, it's the right choice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: I hate that advice, but yeah it is. No. All right, badies.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: That was it. That was some great dilemmas. I will
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: give it to you. Should I do it? Fuck? They
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: were tough. They actually were hard at they were fucking hard.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: But if you pause, big pause, if you enjoyed, you
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: know what to do? Five star Patreon actually episode every
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: single week and there will be a link in the
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: description for dilemmas.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: No prompt.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: Just if you're gone through some hardships or you want
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: to fuck someone, or you don't want to fuck someone,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: or your boss is a dick, or you've got a
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: too big of a dick, comment below and help.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: And we posted a log on Patreon not long ago,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: and we're going to keep on.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: I was going to talk to you about this because
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: you don't read Patreon when I told you on patreons,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: do you check what I said?
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Nah? Oh?
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: I asked if the baddies liked the vlog that you did,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: because you've got a passion and I can see when
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: your heart is in something, and they loved it.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: One bad one BADDI loved it. No, no, I got
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: You've got like twenty five likes. That's cool, essent. Should
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: we keep the vlogs up? Yeah?
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, because I want to wise on fucking Patreon. That's
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: quite a good ratio.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: I I like filming them, and I literally I have
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: to show you my new setup. Yeah, I can see
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: there's a fucking flame there. Ign fucking let's go down
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: that avenue. If you like vogs, you go to the
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Patreon guys. I was thinking about doing like Patreon, and
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: then like a week later YouTube yeah too, too too,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: come up, come up with a strad but I also
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: posted it on Patreon for free or like, anyone that's
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: not paid member can watch it.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: Oh did you I didn't know that, Yeah I did that.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I look at us fucking freebies.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: On freebies, we get a free episode and now we're
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: given that.
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: Go over the Patreon and if no, I won't say
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: anything about the book club, but you know what's going
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: on over there.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, fucking five stars and we're there. Thank you
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: for listening. We love you. Stay bad,