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Ep215. Behind the Retreat Curtain— Grief, Growth, and the Inner Wealth Mastermind with Angie Kitko and Kara Dossey. · The Inner Wealth Podcast

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Do you ever wake up feeling like there's something missing in your life?
• 0:07
  Speaker 1: Do you ever feel the need to escape your business?
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Are you running your life or is your life running you?
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: I'm Mike Kitko and I'll help you design and create a life so authentic and aligned with who you really are that you'll get excited just to wake up.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: I'll help you create real wealth, success and freedom from the inside out.
• 0:23
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Inner Wealth Podcast, where we learn and choose to live inspired each and every day.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Inner Wealth Podcast.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: We are doing something a little bit different today.
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: As you can tell by my voice and for those of you watching, I am not my Kitco, I am Angie Kitco and I am not my Kitco either.
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: And this is Cara Dossi.
• 0:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, so we are here in Park City, utah, for our fall mastermind retreat and Mike and I were discussing you all know that we he and I really love to record episodes together when we're traveling and I said to him I was like, why don't me and Kara do an episode together?
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so you guys hear us talking about Kara a lot on our podcast and I thought it was time to bring her out from behind the camera, which she was not very happy with me.
• 1:21
  Speaker 2: I wanted to say that and I just wanted everybody to get get to know Cara Dossi.
• 1:26
  Speaker 2: Cara, cara, you she's.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: She's the backbone of our business.
• 1:30
  Speaker 2: She does all the behind the scenes stuff.
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: She does all of our client onboarding, offboarding, our SOPs.
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: I mean she's she's our Google drive wizard with putting documents and spreadsheets and stuff that just make Mike and I both just nauseous.
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, I just think it's time for our audience to get to see and know Kara Well.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: I'm happy to be here.
• 1:59
  Speaker 2: Happy to do this First podcast ever, guys, very first podcast ever.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: This is so cool, and what better place to do it?
• 2:06
  Speaker 2: I mean literally huge massive trees behind us.
• 2:09
  Speaker 2: I mean the huge massive house in front of us yeah, you, but if we could man yeah, yeah but, you, jelly, it's, uh, it's.
• 2:15
  Speaker 2: It's amazing.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: Our clients are coming in today, everybody anxiously awaiting all of their arrivals yeah, fun yes, and then tomorrow and friday we'll be session, and then Saturday we we head back to the good old Midwest, but anyway, so, yeah, so there's a funny story of how Kara even got introduced to Mike and I told her that I definitely wanted her to tell that story.
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: So here you go, take it away, ms Dossie.
• 2:40
  Speaker 3: Well, my husband worked with Mike first my husband, justin Dossie.
• 2:44
  Speaker 3: He owns his own marketing companies and stuff and live in that entrepreneur lifestyle.
• 2:48
  Speaker 3: And in 2020, my dad passed away unexpectedly and I just my whole life kind of fell apart it didn't really fall apart, but it felt like it was falling apart and COVID had happened.
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: I was a hairstylist working at a salon and the salon had shut down for like six to seven weeks because of COVID and I just I happened.
• 3:04
  Speaker 3: I was a hairstylist working at a salon and the salon had shut down for like six to seven weeks because of COVID and I just I quit, I quit the salon.
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: I just I literally had to change my whole life.
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: Um, and Justin knew I was struggling, um, and he kept trying to push me to work with Mike and I was just like it's fine, like obviously I'm not the problem, Everyone else is a problem, not me.
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: You didn't need help, everyone else did Right.
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: So I was just like, yeah, you know, it's fine, that's, I don't need it yet, I'm fine, I'm fine.
• 3:30
  Speaker 3: And it got to the point where he was just like I think it would really help and I was just like fine, whatever.
• 3:36
  Speaker 3: But he made it sound like Mike was a financial manager, Like we were going to be meeting with somebody to help us with our money.
• 3:41
  Speaker 3: And so when I met with Mike and we met at a restaurant and it was me, Mike and Justin, and he's like asking me like okay, well, what's your like deepest fear?
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: And I was just like I just met you, I don't know Like what's your deepest like joy?
• 3:54
  Speaker 3: I was like joy, I don't even know Like.
• 3:58
  Speaker 3: So that was my first introduction to Mike and I was just like that was not what I thought it was going to be at all, but he had a lot of good points, he made good things that he was able to explain to me even in just a short period of time.
• 4:15
  Speaker 3: So I then began working with him one-on-one, Um, and it was just.
• 4:16
  Speaker 3: It was like it changed my life.
• 4:17
  Speaker 3: It really did.
• 4:18
  Speaker 3: It allowed me to let go.
• 4:21
  Speaker 3: It allowed me to work through a lot of the grief I was dealing with.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: Um, after losing my dad that was a that was a really really tough time for you, I remember it was really hard.
• 4:30
  Speaker 3: My dad was my favorite person and that's okay.
• 4:36
  Speaker 2: Oh, you can cry, though, that's no.
• 4:38
  Speaker 3: no, he was just my favorite and I I it's hard when you lose parent unexpectedly, but you know I was able to work through it and there was a lot of other stuff in my life, that is, you know, I've got a sister who's a drug addict and who's in prison and her son and figuring out what to do with him and stuff like that.
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: So there's just been a lot of things that I that working with Mike has helped me realize that I don't have to figure it all out.
• 5:02
  Speaker 3: It's not me to figure everything out, helped me realize that I don't have to figure it all out.
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: It's not me to figure everything out.
• 5:07
  Speaker 3: And I got to think about myself again.
• 5:08
  Speaker 3: For me it was more of a.
• 5:08
  Speaker 3: I worked through the grief and stuff, but then it became a journey of like self-love, like I didn't give myself the love I was giving to others in my life and it just it did.
• 5:18
  Speaker 3: It turned into more of a journey for me and that's when I was like, oh, this, but it helps.
• 5:23
  Speaker 3: All my mindsets just changed.
• 5:25
  Speaker 3: Like it helped me with the entrepreneur journey Cause, as somebody who wasn't drawn to that first, like I never wanted to own a business, I love being an employee.
• 5:34
  Speaker 3: I love people telling me I need you to do ABCD and I love checking it off the list, like I thrive on it and doing your own thing.
• 5:43
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of discipline you have to have.
• 5:44
  Speaker 3: I just never wanted to do it.
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: But then it's like, now that I'm in it and I've left the salon life and I've, you know, ventured into helping Justin with the business, helping you guys with the business, it's like I can't imagine my life any differently, like the freedom I I have in the, I don't know, just the I don't want to say control, cause that makes me seem like a control freak, which is something I'm working on.
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: Control freak, but not control freak.
• 6:09
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely a control freak but I'm working through, not I don't have to have control, but like you get to control your schedule.
• 6:15
  Speaker 3: I guess that's what I like the freedom of yeah, I can do this at this time and like I have autonomy to do my work in the business as needed and there's no like hey, you have to have this done like by five o'clock today right hey, this is what we're working on this week.
• 6:30
  Speaker 3: It's just really and I'm not.
• 6:32
  Speaker 3: I will say I loved working at the salon and I miss the girls I worked with, but it was a very different type of relationship there and.
• 6:41
  Speaker 3: I've not ever, until I worked with you guys, like I didn't truly feel um like it, like we would say it's a work family, but like I feel like you guys are my family.
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: It's like you are and I don't know just well I'm you're.
• 6:56
  Speaker 2: I, you, okay, yes, you work for us, but you're more like my little sister, which is which people also think.
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: They actually think we are they think we are sisters, which is is really, really cute.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, we even have little nicknames for each other.
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, we do.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, we are, we are the Griselda sisters, and whenever we go out on our little retreat shopping, we call Griselda's on the loose.
• 7:15
  Speaker 3: Yes, and I think that's I didn't realize.
• 7:18
  Speaker 3: Like I've always like hosted parties for like my family and friends and I had a lot of like obligation and working through a lot of my own mental stuff.
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: It's like now I do this stuff for fun and then it became part of my job, like getting to plan these events with you and getting to set up the snacks and like I love it so much.
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: I love doing that stuff.
• 7:36
  Speaker 3: It's just I have so much fun it doesn't feel like work.
• 7:39
  Speaker 2: So two fun facts, that that I that that just that I want to talk about, since you mentioned the control thing.
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: So we're in Utah, right, and we have, over the past 24 hours, we have learned an awful lot about the very interesting liquor and alcohol laws that they have here in Utah.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: And, Carol, I can order a gin and tonic, but not a double.
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: You can't order a double, but I can order a side of gin on the side but I can order a gin and tonic, but not a double can order, but I can't order a side of gin on the side.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: But I can order a shot of tequila on the side right and it's just been so fun and karen's like I could never live here, you're?
• 8:13
  Speaker 2: They just try to control me.
• 8:15
  Speaker 3: The anarchist in me is like I would never submit to these rules.
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: Like, try to tell me I gotta order food.
• 8:20
  Speaker 2: No, so so that's been.
• 8:23
  Speaker 2: That's a bit been fun.
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: And um second thing there is Karen is a master charcuterie board maker.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: We have charcuterie boards at every single event.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: I couldn't put one together.
• 8:39
  Speaker 2: When you said, when you said to put, when you said that we were going to make a charcuterie board and I think it was Gatlinburg was the first place we did that, yeah, that was where we did it.
• 8:47
  Speaker 2: I was like oh no, we did one at my house for the people over.
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, for the birthday.
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a birthday party.
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: We did Shout out to.
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: Kate, that's right.
• 8:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, kate was there, and Kate Woodchuck was with us and helping us make our meat flowers, and then they taught me how to make some things, but still like I can't conceptualize and visualize so it coming together.
• 9:08
  Speaker 3: So and I love that stuff I do get in my little OCD brain and I'm I'm worried about all the little things and I want it to look.
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: It's the perfectionist me I'm.
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: I'm working through some of that, but it does come in handy.
• 9:16
  Speaker 2: It is kind of like a superpower when you're trying to make a perfect charcuterie board, yeah, and that you we've got your little meat flowers and they're so pretty and they're scattered in the perfect little yeah.
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: And then I watch you and you're so happy doing your work and I mentioned this in the podcast a couple of weeks ago when we were doing the book launch.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: Just watching, she's just fluttering around the kitchen and she's humming and she's singing Taylor Swift or something, and and it's just, it's just, it's just it's so cool to watch, it's fun.
• 9:44
  Speaker 3: I didn't realize that you could actually like have that much fun.
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: Making a circuit report.
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but even just in your work, and I think that I had a different mindset while I worked in the salon.
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: I think I probably would have enjoyed a lot of different things, but I was stuck in a very like negative, limited mindset while I worked there and I think and I focused on myself a lot.
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: And I think the more you focus on the self, the more you actually cause yourself more suffering.
• 10:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 10:12
  Speaker 3: You're too focused and like there's a nice balance.
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Like how are you focusing on yourself?
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: Are you focusing on yourself in the sense of like the extremes of vanity, yes, or are you in?
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: the beauty industry.
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: That was a lot of that, because it's just hard.
• 10:24
  Speaker 3: You stood in front of a mirror every day, but it was.
• 10:30
  Speaker 3: There were a lot of like.
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: Getting other people to feel beautiful and feel good about themselves was the biggest reward I could have ever had.
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: But my mind wasn't right.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: My mindset had not stayed how it did.
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: When you first start out and you're all excited.
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: And after 10, you know, 12 years, I was just, I was done, I was burnt out of people and I needed to focus on myself.
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: So I'm thinking now I look back and I'm like I miss my dad, but like him, dying also was one of the best things to happen to me, because it allowed me to be who I am right now, and I like who I am right now for the first time in a really long time, and I don't know if that would have happened had he not died.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: So that might've been a catalyst for your it was a huge catalyst for me, starting my own spiritual journey, for me healing from past traumas, past, just anything.
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: It's it that totally started all of that for me.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: Well, it sucks.
• 11:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when you think of those, those horrible events, because I have several too, where it's like, okay, that was shitty, but it also led to these great things, and your journey to work for us came from a pretty traumatic event itself.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, yeah, without, it was just yeah it was meant to be.
• 11:44
  Speaker 3: I really do truly believe that, because I hadn't.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: I remember when I did start working with Mike one-on-one and we do, we do a lot of soul sciences, um, which you take it or leave it.
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: Some people really love it, some people can't believe in it, they don't want to, and I'm like that's great, I like to explore it, I love it, um, and I think, no, you don't love it.
• 12:04
  Speaker 3: You literally geek out, I do you literally today somebody texted me a question one of our students, Suzanne and she was like what were you talking about last week?
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: And I like send her an entire email like explaining it to her because I just fucking love it, I just do and but I think that also like really sparked me to dive into the work that he was doing and I started showing up on all of the mastermind calls and I really started just to lean in and it just changed my life.
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: And I literally remember saying to Mike during one of our one-on-one calls, like if I could just do this for a living, like that would be the bet, like I get to research soul sciences stuff all day, and like I'm not saying I manifested that, but I kind of did because like six months later, what do you think?
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: about working for me.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: Six months later, we had our former employee found out we were, they were stealing money from us and I immediately fired her.
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: And I can't do this, this job, by myself, like I just can't, I don't want to and I don't want to either.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: I don't want to, I'm not.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: I like to say I'm not a loaning cat, I don't like to work alone.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: So when Kara talked about not wanting to own a business, I don't either, because I don't want to work alone.
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: But you know, this employee stole from us.
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: We fired them and as Mike and I were talking, mike said well, what about Kara?
• 13:23
  Speaker 2: Because she was getting.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: You were, you were getting, you were getting so heavily involved in the work.
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: You're talking about the soul sciences and you were starting to.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: And it was such a shift because when you first started to show up on the mastermind calls all those years ago with Justin, you know, our calls were early in the morning and Kara would be asleep and she'd have her blankie on and literally, and I was like I don't, and I feel like getting kids up for school and they're like getting breakfast and then I'd have to leave to go take them to the bus stop.
• 13:54
  Speaker 3: So or the early 8 am calls.
• 13:56
  Speaker 3: I'm thankful they're in, yeah yeah, so.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: So that was it was just.
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: But I got to see that whole, that whole progression from, in fact, maybe from even the moment that we had that first brunch together and on main street years ago and you, I think you were still at, was it?
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: You were still at the salon then, or was that?
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I was officially still at the salon, but I had already.
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: No, I had already quit but I wasn't doing any like I kind of had, like six months after my dad died, maybe like five, four to five months where I didn't really but I wasn't doing any, like I kind of had like six months after my dad died, maybe like five, four to five months where I didn't really work.
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: I didn't really help out much in ballpoint either and I just it was like I took a summer off and I ended up painting my kitchen and kind of like a lot of distraction that year.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it was cool to see that progression and and and watching you get into the soul sciences.
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: And now, carol, literally every client that we have, kara's got their whole chart printed out, oh yeah.
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: And she's got a hundred.
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: I print everything out, because what is this digital nonsense?
• 14:55
  Speaker 3: I can't.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: I need to see things too.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: I definitely need to see things too.
• 14:59
  Speaker 2: So, um, so okay.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: So let's talk about you working with us.
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was funny Cause when Mike, you know, brought that up to me and was like you know, would you even be interested in that?
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: And I was like, well, what would it be like?
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: How many hours?
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: Well before that he was like, well, before we even get into all that, he was like take this test and made me take the profile test.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: So if you're a part of the mastermind, we have this.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: It's a personality test that um art.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: He does the personality disc profile.
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: I don't even remember what the disc stands for, but basically it's like mike has a really high, mike and I are both high di and I'm a high snsc because I'm analytical and I like my spreadsheet.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: So consistency.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: But she was like I want to see if this is even makes sense to even pursue, because if we have the same like profile, it's not going to be a good fit.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, I have opposite profiles of both of them, so it's a great fit.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a hundred.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's, there's that, well, the last employee.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: She was a good fit there too, but Kara's not stealing money from us Well.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to steal Scouts on her.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, that that balance of having you know I'm, I'm the, the more scatterbrained, like get shit done Like I I'm that my Mike, mike and I have like almost the same.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: He and I are almost.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: Our profiles are eerily identical and I don't know how we work.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: I really don't sometimes, because that's kind of terrifying when you see the exactly the same cause.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: We're both just such, but we're driven on different things, which, I guess, is where what's good is that like he couldn't plan this and I couldn't do what he does, so it's so, it's really great.
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: It helps too, because it's like a lot of my profiles and my soul sciences like talks about, like the organization and like the like.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: Oh, what is it like?
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: Managing and directing energy, yeah, is a lot of what like a projector is and can be which is what my human design profile is.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: So it makes sense like that.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: I work with people that have like even Justin has like these big dreams and these big visions and like wants to, and sometimes they don't know how to execute it, and I'm like, let me come in and help and I can.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: Sometimes I don't know how to do it, but most often I can at least spark an idea that then like sparks something else in somebody else's mind.
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: And I used to feel like I had to figure it all out like at once, but I'm now realizing it's more about like me asking the right question to help spark them to get to where they need to get.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: So I'm trying to lean into that more and not feel so worried about like finishing or something or finalizing it, but working as a team to really like here, let's direct this energy here and let's direct that energy there.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: And you did that as a book launch party because I in my, in my whatever profile I have, I was stressed out, thinking we're not going to get everything done.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: We're not going to get everything done.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: You're like oh no, we got this and you continued with your flowers, and I know I'm like making the charcuterie board and snapping my flowers and it's like but you, but you, but you had plenty of time, yeah, and you but I.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I didn't like that.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Whatever you did allowed me to, I was.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I trusted that, yeah, yeah, which was, which was really good.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: We give space for each other to be who each other is, you know, and it's like there's nothing wrong with feeling stressed or having that energy, and I'm like here, let me take it, I'll channel it into this flower vase and we will get these.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, our, our arrangements looked really nice.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I had an arrangement in my house for a whole like week after they lasted for a long time Costco shout out to Costco flowers, because those things lasted a while they did, they were pretty and everything.
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: I like the aesthetics.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: The aesthetics to me matter.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Probably more than they should.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: No, but it does matter to me.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I like things to look a certain way.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I like things to.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: It's like obviously you have a budget or you have whatever you have to work with, but it's still it's important to me that it looks nice and it looks polished and I want everybody in our mastermind to have such a like.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I'm really focused on the client experience and that's important to me at all of our retreats.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: It's important to me on our calls.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: It's important to me on any of our live events, like we're.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: We're really focused on the clients and their experience.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: And it's a valuable part and something we put high importance on.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, so what's your favorite part?
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: of the retreats.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: Oh, my favorite part of the retreats, cause this has been a whole big growth lesson for you, too, was the traveling a lot.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I don't travel well yeah, no, you, I know you, I travel better now um, I'm working on it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I just deal with a lot of anxiety in the airports, but that's my least favorite part of the retreats.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: But once I get like I have no complaints.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it's so fun being in the house.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Our last retreat on the we were in the outer banks and we had the house full.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: We had, I mean, you're with your friends like all day long.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: You're doing hard work and you're doing emotional work and you're doing really, um, vulnerable work.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: So you and immediately create these like deep bonds with these people and it's a small group.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: So you're, you're sharing, you're vulnerable.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: But then it's like, okay, we're going to lunch and you're at lunch with your family and you're taking a break outside, going for a walk on the beach, like here it's beautiful, it's sunny, the trees, the mountains.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: I just I think just being together is one of my favorite parts.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: I think when we're in the room together and we're doing the work, it's so much more powerful than when we're on Zoom.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: I love the Zoom calls and they keep us interlocked and aligned in between the retreats.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: But the retreats are really in person, where we're actively doing the work together, we're meditating, we're talking about deep fears, we're working through some deep fears that we still have or deep traumas, and I don't know.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: It's just really powerful Once you experience it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: I just don't know how, how really to explain it to make you understand unless you experience it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: And when we have new clients come in.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: We cannot stress to them enough how, how important getting to the retreats are, because they are definitely magical, I mean yeah.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, I think those are my most fun, those are the fun times.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: But then it's like once we wrap, like after a whole day of hard emotional work, you know we'll pop a beer and we let loose, like we have hot tub up there that we're probably gonna hang out in later like.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know, some fun hot tub nights in this, uh, and okay, you we three at home.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: When I'm here, I am on like not vacation, but I mean I'm with my brains.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: We're hanging out, we're having a glass of wine or two I think, I feel so, I think that mike, I think that mike really gets the curiosity of this group out to the public and I think he that's a huge service that you all don't realize that we also have a lot of fun.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: We have a lot of fun there, what?
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: what has been your favorite retreat so far?
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: oh, I feel like I don't know if it was just because the last one, we went on, I feel like recency bias.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: yeah, I, yeah I feel like Outer Banks was a lot of fun.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: That group was a lot of fun.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Just the work we did too.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Like we did some shadow work on that second day and that was really uh, that sparked me into like I'm reading that Debbie Ford book, so it sparked me into some of that shadow work.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: But the that house was really fun.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: We had a great hot tub we had.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: It was colder than we thought but like me and Alexis, we went out and like we were howling at the moon.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: We were.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: You know, we were out there with the moon, she was doing her pink lightning shit and it was like it brought tears to my eyes that we were out there like just holding hands, just enjoying like I know that sounds probably crazy to some people Like like I tell Justin, then he's like, oh my God, but we had the best time and I.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: That trip to me was super fun.
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: Um, just the girls that we had there.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: We were all just hanging out and having a great time.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it was just so fun.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: And we dance.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: We always put on some music and end up dancing in our swimsuits, you know, with a towel, making us look like a butterfly.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Hey, Kara, I wish for those of you listening.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: I would love to get up and like no and uh and just show you all.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: But we were in the hot.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: We got out of the hot tub one night and Kara had her towel on and we had.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: We had our booty music.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: We got our booty music on some Nelly, we're from St Louis, yes, you can take the girl on St Louis.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: Can't take the St Louis out of the girl.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Nelly yeah, we do there's.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: There's always some twerking lessons oh my gosh, the Miami twerking lesson.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we have our retreats.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Get can get wild guys.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: They don't get too wild, but we, we try to dance.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: We're staying young.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're, we're dancing, we're having fun.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: It's important I think there's a balance between all of the emotional and the spiritual work you do and also remembering to have fun.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Yes, it is serious, it is hard work, but it's also like it doesn't have to be so serious and fun.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: You can also have the lighthearted fun with your friends and dance and be silly, which is what we do.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: And I'm constantly yeah you, as soon as five o'clock hits, let's go break out, break out the booze, let's go we don't even need booze.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Mike, right before this he was putting the microphones on us and having us test them and we're like, and she's like guys, can you just sit in focus?
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: We're like, sorry, I don't have a.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I have.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: I have an older stepsister, I have a younger half sister that I don't know, and so this is like I don't have a.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I don't have a sister relationship with anyone.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: My step-sister lives in North Carolina.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: We haven't really seen it.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: We've only seen each other once in 20 some years.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: So this is, this is my sister right here.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: So you know, we're driving out Biscayne Boulevard, miami, wayne, and yes, so we do.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: We have a lot of fun and that's to me, that's that's just I love, I love you so much and I can't we.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you and I wouldn't want to do this without you.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Agreed, and yeah, so what's your favorite band, my favorite band?
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: What's your favorite?
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: band, or is your?
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, I love so much music.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: It's so hard to get to no care okay, my favorite, probably all-time band that I've loved since I was like 15 paramore.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I have like liked paramore since their like day one album.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: They're my, they're my jam, okay, um, but I also obviously like hello mother, taylor, swift I don't care of all you haters out there she is the queen, and you should bow to her.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: Um, she's amazing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Can't, can't stop, won't stop with her ever.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: That was gonna be your answer paramore's really okay.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: She's got my heart.
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: I've had paramore forever.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Taylor.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Swift I've always loved.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: Recently it wasn't until I got.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Really I wouldn't say I'm like a swifty deep swifty, I'm like a surface level swifty.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: I care a little bit, but I try not to go too far down the Easter eggs.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I guess that could have been something after seeing your and Justin's baby emo picture from when you were teenagers, which is probably one of the greatest no he'll just call me a poser, though he says I was just posing and I'm like whatever.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I've got different moods that I like and I went through my little punk rock phase and I still like the music, though I might not look the scene or the emo, but I still love it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we went the other day.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: We were out at, I don't know these bands that we saw Falling Universe, oh yeah, and there are other screamo bands.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I enjoy that stuff, but I'm not going to lie.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Taylor Swift has my heart, so come at me, come at me, come at me, bro.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Torture Poets Department was a great album and I'm looking forward to our next album I'm not a.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Swifty, but I wish Well, there's still time, no it's not there's still time, Angie.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not giving up on you yet.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Swifty.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: So you know, you never know, yes, yes.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: So yeah, we got a couple, we got our friends coming in today.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: We got a couple of new folks coming to a retreat for the first time Olivia and Joanna.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Well, and the?
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I talk about the ladies, the husbands too, but I'm talking about our girls and our pink lightning will be here.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: So it's going to be a smaller retreat and it's going to be.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: It's going to be nice to get to know some and introduce them to, uh, the other side of in a world.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Yes, so get to know them a little deeper.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, we get to make our charcuterie board and, yep, sure gotta go.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I can start getting on that people do right now.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: So well, thank you so much for doing this.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I know this is a note.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: They just thank you for everything I told you.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I love you so much.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: I love you too, and, uh, for all you out there listening.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Mike may or may not be back next week because, this might become the Kara and Angie show.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: The inner well podcast with Kara and Angie, because this is probably a little bit more interesting than the typical Mike Kiko podcast.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Uh, thank you.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: No.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Casseroles and fruit baskets can be sent to the inner wealth address.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: You can find us online, look us up.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so Mike will be back next week.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: And remember, interworld, outerworld is still available on Amazon.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Check it out, and we would love to have some new people here at our next retreat.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: We don't know where that one's going to be.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: No, we don't know yet, but we have a live event too in November.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: November 15th, 14th and 15th in November um outside of St Louis choose your destiny event.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: You can find all of the information on innerwealthglobalcom.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so thank you all.
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: So much for listening, and peace out from Park City, utah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: If you enjoyed what you heard and you want to learn more, go to wwwinnerwealthglobalcom for more tools and resources.