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THE MYSTERIOUS DEATH OF BOBBY FULLER: Who silenced the voice behind "I Fought The Law"? · the objective JERK

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  Speaker 1: You are listening to the Objective Jerk and I am so jerk.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: What's going on?
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: This is a man.
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: I've been on like a little bit of a roll here.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: You can tell my studio has changed.
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  Speaker 1: No, I reorganized my room a little bit, so now my thing's obviously a little different.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to have to move the logo from over here to over here, because it'll look better, I think.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, what's up?
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: How's everybody doing?
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: What's everybody doing?
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  Speaker 1: So I think I'm going to try.
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: Well, you know there is no planning with this.
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  Speaker 1: I don't plan anything, I just do.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm trying not to be like too hung up On something whatever.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I did a few political Charlie Kirk stuff and then I did one about Creed and I did another.
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  Speaker 1: Or about Jimmy Kimmel was the last one, I think, and so now I'm gonna.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: Or about Jimmy Kimmel was the last one, I think, and so now I'm going to talk about something else.
• 1:29
  Speaker 1: But before I, do you guys ever seen Black Dynamite?
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: It's actually easier to look at the camera this way, so maybe this is better, so I can look like I'm looking at you.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: But Black Dynamite it's like black, black sploitation, it's hard to say black exploitation, that came out in early 2000s, before 2010, I want to say like 2008, 2009, somewhere around there.
• 1:56
  Speaker 1: I guess I could have looked it up right, but I'm not here to really talk too much about it, but anyway, it has.
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: Michael j white, I think, is his name, so he's a martial artist actor.
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: He he's in lots of stuff, but he was in the, the batman movie, the dark knight rises, the one that didn't like the joker, the black dude anyway.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: So he's in tons of stuff, the black dude, anyway.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: So he's in tons of stuff, mostly, like you know, straight to video type stuff.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: But he's, I don't know, he's always really good and everything he's he's in, I think, as far as you know, martial arts and stuff.
• 2:36
  Speaker 1: But black dynamite is probably the best movie of his.
• 2:42
  Speaker 1: I tried looking for it on Blu-ray a while back.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: Couldn't find it, but it's just it's hilarious.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: Well, the trailer by itself is hilarious Because it's just kind of poking fun about the old, bad editing and just the way they did trailers.
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: So the whole movie is, you know, it's just all.
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: It's pretty funny.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it, watch it.
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: It's just all I don't know.
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: It's pretty funny if you haven't seen it.
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: Watch it.
• 3:05
  Speaker 1: It's got, the action is pretty cool, and then it's just, it's hilarious.
• 3:10
  Speaker 1: But so I, I was like, for some reason, I thought about it again and I was like man, you know what I want to share?
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to just like find the trailer on youtube and share it on like Facebook or whatever, because then it's like people have to click on it.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: I wanted to start playing it right away.
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: So I, you know, using an app or whatever, I recorded the trailer, except for like the very beginning and the very end, but basically recorded the trailer and put it up there.
• 3:41
  Speaker 1: So, you know, people scroll in or if they happen to come across a thing, it'll start playing and they can just either watch it because I think people will watch it more than if they have to click on it, you know.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: But then of course, there's like a copyright strike and all this stuff and I'm just like, oh my gosh, come on, dude, really it's not like I'm a huge.
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe it's because I'm not a huge.
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe if I was a huge, I was sitting there thinking like, you know, I'm not even a huge, whatever.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: So how is it going to?
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: I guess maybe me not being like a big thing, it could be used to help build up my audience or something.
• 4:20
  Speaker 1: I guess Maybe it makes, I don't know, as opposed to someone that, to someone that's, you know, huge.
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: Then they get some free advertising, but still it's just like, dude, it's free advertising.
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: Man, what like I don't know.
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: I know I guess there's lots of, you know, youtube channels that are just content.
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: I say youtube, but it's like you know, there's so many, there's a bunch of different ones and different ones I watch.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: It's just that's kind of like you know, when you say, I don't know what's a word that doesn't mean something but everybody uses it for it's like a genre, but it's not really trying to think of something Like everybody will call, I mean like X, everybody calls it Twitter.
• 4:59
  Speaker 1: Still they call it tweets, no matter what platform you're on.
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: There's something on the tip of my tongue I can't think of anyway, but people will usually take a brand like the first brand of something and that's what they'll call something, even though, like that's, that's not what it is.
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: That's just the brand, that's not, and so so that's why I say youtube a lot, but anyway, so you know, people will do like there's music guys who do like history of music and music reviews and all this kind of stuff and they can't even play the music at all like you used to be able to play like 30 seconds I think, anything longer than that and you could get copyright.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: But now it's like down to like nothing barely.
• 5:43
  Speaker 1: So it's like they're just constantly and the thing that sucks is they change the, the rules, but then those rules apply to all their previous stuff, so it's like they have to re-edit stuff down.
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: It's like it's just stupid.
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: It's like, dude, it's free advertising, man.
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: You know people I've I've learned about some bands and certain things through that kind of stuff.
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: You know the industry, especially the music industry, it's all screwed and it's all jacked up now because of streaming and everything.
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: So I mean I kind of get it on one aspect, but it's just like man, dude, like it's kind of they need to be, it needs to be a little more like they need to prove the copyright, you know, or maybe like the first, so many views, there's no issue.
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: But once it surpasses this many views, then it's like, okay, the money it's making, then it's gonna get, you know, go to the whatever.
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: But it's like it's not even, like I didn't have a thing that said, hey, hey, whatever revenue you make from this, like I may get anything from Facebook, but you know that will go to whoever.
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: And then like that's fine, I don't care, you know.
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: But it's like no, you're going to end up getting in trouble and losing your you know.
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: It's like they're trying to get me in trouble instead of just like, dude, take the money, whatever, but it's like I'm just trying to share a little bit of joy, whatever, but it's like I'm just trying to share a little bit of joy.
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of focusing on all the negativity, you know.
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: So it's like so anyway.
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: So I was like okay, so I deleted it.
• 7:10
  Speaker 1: And then I just got a couple of the funny parts from the trailer and I cut out a lot of the other stuff.
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: So it was still kind of like it was a trailer of their trailer, but there's still music, I guess, and stuff like that.
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: And again that was the same thing.
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: So I was like, oh my gosh.
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: So I just clipped one scene that I think is the funniest scene and it's.
• 7:32
  Speaker 1: I'll do a quick little breakdown.
• 7:35
  Speaker 1: So black dynamite is like a, you know, like a new york takes place in the 70s.
• 7:39
  Speaker 1: New york city cop knows Kung Fu and his brother's killed.
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: The CIA is trying to get him to work for them or whatever.
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: But so he decides to.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: He goes to like a meeting of I want to say it was like drug lords, or maybe it's just a meeting in his community and he's like from now on I'm going after all the people who are selling drugs to the community, and then you have the one drug dealer guy's like but Black Dynamite, I sell drugs to the community.
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 8:12
  Speaker 1: I just always thought that was so funny and that dude is from Reno 911, the actor but, but the whole trailer is hilarious.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: So anyway, if you haven't seen it, at least watch the trailer, black Dynamite, and then you should watch the movie.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: It's pretty good.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: I laughed pretty hard, but that was man.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: That was a long time ago now.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: I wonder if I'd still feel the same anyway.
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: So that's, that's kind of what I was doing.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: But so while watching one of these content creators or YouTube, I I watched this guy.
• 8:46
  Speaker 1: I know his name is Tim, but I can't think of what.
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: I don't have nothing open right now.
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: If you want to know, hit me up and I'll let you know, but it's not hard to find.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: But this dude is like an older guy who's probably I want to say he probably missed the hippie.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: He's too young to be that, but he's older now but anyway really into music.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: He probably was a musician, you know, and he's like he just goes and shows you know places throughout rock history that took place in LA.
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: Basically I think he went to Michigan too once, but you know just different places where things happen, some stories, album covers and just all the people's homes, musicians, rock stars from the 60s, 70s, all the way up until, I think, the most recent kind of band he did.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: He did something on Metallica, but anyway he was doing one and it was about musicians and some Hollywood people that died very young, right, and he briefly talked about Bobby Fuller.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: So who's Bobby Fuller?
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know either.
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think I probably heard his name before, but he was the American rock singer, songwriter and guitarist best known for Let Her Dance, which I know, but in the cover of the Cricket song I Fought the Law, which he recorded with his Bobby Fuller group.
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: So, like in the 50s or 60s, he recorded that I fought the law in the law world.
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: You know, remember that, remember that song anyway.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: So this dude died and he just kind of briefly went over like, oh, he was found in his mother's car covered in gas and he was like his face was all bloody and then just kind of, and I'm like what?
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like what was that about?
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: And that there was no.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: That's kind of.
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: It was just like, yeah, they don't know.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: So it's just kind of a crazy.
• 10:52
  Speaker 1: So, based off that, it looks like he was beaten to death and they were gonna burn his car and him in it.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: But then for some reason, somebody walked up on him or something, I don't know so so I was like what?
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: So just from that, I was like I need to find out some more about this.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: And then I look up some stuff and it's not like I'm the only one.
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: They're a crime, true crime people.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: This is what they do for their jobs.
• 11:17
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, but I don't know.
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't really heard about this and so I thought I would share it with my 11 listeners.
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: All right, okay, so I'll do.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, okay.
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: So he, you know, he did the.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: I fought the law and the law won.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: I fought, okay, anyway.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna read the stuff on his death about Wikipedia, and then I've got a couple articles here to talk about.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: So within months, man, come on Within months of.
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, I've got to move my thing so I can see my time.
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: I've got to keep tracking my time on my.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: I'm recording, okay, so I'm good Anyway.
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, so within months of I fought the law becoming a top 10 hit.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: Wait, when was this?
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: So I want to get a year exactly 66, 1966, okay, fuller was found dead in an automobile which which was his mother's, I think parked outside his Hollywood apartment.
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: The Los Angeles deputy medical examiner, jerry Nelson, performed the autopsy.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: According to Dean Cooper's report, it states that Bobby's face, chest and side were covered in pectacule hemorrhages, probably caused by gasoline vapors and the summer heat.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: He found okay, so maybe I misheard, it sounded a little more crazier than it but he found no bruises, no broken bones, no cuts, no evidence of beating.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so I'm a little off there, but I was just going, I haven't read nothing, okay, I was just going off that little thing that, and he didn't say it.
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was just cooper's further explaining that boxes for accident and suicide were checked, but next to the boxes were question marks.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: Despite the official cause of death, some commentators believe he was murdered.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: Kind of sounds like he was.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, who would ever try to kill yourself by breathing in gas fumes?
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: That doesn't sound right.
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: I get the exhaust.
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: You know, taking the hose and the exhaust and putting it in your car, whatever.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: That somewhat makes sense, but this doesn't make any sense, I don't think.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: I think I think he was probably actually Because there was the thing I watched.
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: He said something about the mob.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: Right, the mob was in LA at this time, maybe somebody, a bookie or something.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: He owed people money.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: This is what I'm getting.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: This is just based on the very little bit of information I have.
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: I think he was beaten to death, killed and they were going to burn him and then they were able to corrupt the autopsy report saying there was no bruises or signs of beating or whatever.
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to guess.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: Let's see, fuller was buried in Hollywood.
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: His death was profiled in a segment Unsolved Mysteries.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's one of the articles I pulled up.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: A segment Unsolved Mysteries?
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's one of the articles I pulled up.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unsolved Mysteries are here.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: His death was also explored in a 2015 episode.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: All Things Considered, so I mean, it's not like it's.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: You know, people talk about program references, the book blah blah, blah blah.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: Sometime after the Unsolved Mysteries segment in question initially aired, the cause of Fuller's death was officially changed from suicide to accident.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Huh, well, that's kind of crazy, because it was like.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: You know, people were like hold on a second.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: What was an accident?
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: That he spilled gasoline all over himself.
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: Where's the gas?
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Can?
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: I'm curious.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I'm curious, alright, let's see.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I curious, I'm curious, alright, let's see.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I guess I'll start off with the unsolved mystery one.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Let's see what this one says.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: Alright, police concluded the 60s musician commuted suicide, but it does have a picture of him here.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: But his family suspects he was murdered.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: It's a picture of him laying down and draped over the car seat.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: So he was in the passenger seat, though.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: So he was in the passenger seat and then, draped, fell over.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: That's a legit photo.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: That seems weird too.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: On July 18, 1966, the lifeless body of a popular young rock star Was found in the front seat Of his car I thought it was his mom's car In Hollywood, california.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: His name was Bobby Fuller.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: His band, the Bobby Fuller 4 BFF, hit it big when I fought the lost shot To the top of the charts.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: They were four country boys from El Paso and Bobby was the star, randy Fuller, his brother.
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: They said he'd have been like Elvis.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Everybody that knew him described him as a musical genius Bob Keene, owner of Delphi Records.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Bobby was one of the most on-purpose musicians I've ever met in my life.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: He was gonna be it.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Hmm, makes you wonder like what if something happened to Elvis?
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: And Elvis never became Elvis?
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: So there was a gas can in the car Like he was trying to, but, dude, that would take forever, man, it just doesn't seem like that's.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: When the police suggested that Bobby Fuller committed suicide, it was the beginning of a mystery that continues to this day.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: When I heard Bobby was dead and that somebody had said he had committed suicide, I thought that's not the Bobby, I know.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I mean it never is really.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Well, not never.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: You know, I guess a lot of people they commit suicide and it's like oh, okay, yeah, like Marvin Gaye, he had already tried a couple times and so some people say, like that he did death by father.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: You know, you know how people do.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Or death by father, suicide by cop?
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: He was suicide by father because he pretty much knew his father was going to shoot him.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bobby Fuller was born with the music in his blood.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's see.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: So from the moment his body was discovered, police thought it was suicide, even though Bobby's body was in full rigor mortis when they found him.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: This suggests that he had been dead for several hours and, according to Bobby's mother, suicide just didn't make sense.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: She also claimed that Bobby's car had been gone all night.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: So I guess maybe I misheard again.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: So it wasn't her car, it was his car All night and was not there when she checked during the following day.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: It wasn't until 5pm when Bobby's mother went to pick up the mail that the car had mysteriously appeared, with her son's body inside.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he went somewhere.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: Someone beat the hell out of him.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe they weren't, maybe they was.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: That.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Is that a thing?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Do people?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: Do people commit suicide by breathing in fuel fumes?
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Let me see.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Have people committed suicide by breathing fuel fumes?
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Carbon monoxide yeah, that's not the same thing.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Helium, car fumes and maybe gas?
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Okay, maybe instead of fuelfumes.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Maybe gas Okay, maybe instead of fuel, I'll do gas.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: See, I don't think it's a thing.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Dude Carbon monoxide, yes, carbon monoxide Suicide by poisonous gas Authority is responsible for.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: The man committed suicide by inhaling noxious fumes.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Why have people stopped committing suicide with gas by the 70s, when the transition to natural gas was complete, the number of gas suicides had dropped to zero.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: But it seems, I don't know, it's not like it's well known, you know.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: So it does kind of seem weird.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Anyway, for the moment, where was I at?
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Son of a bitch.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Let's pick up our son's body inside, okay, problem here is that dead men don't drive cars.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: But from the picture it looks like he was in the passenger side and bent over.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: So that's weird.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And that car got into that lot and Bobby did not drive it.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: So the question is who did?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Where did it come from?
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Why did they bring it back?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Where did they go?
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, see, it does kind of seem like something's going on.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, some of the things that were setting off red flags for me were apparently not.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: You know, doesn't matter because I was wrong about the information, but still there is something weird.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: The death scene itself was strange.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: There was blood on his face, chest and the car seat, his body and clothes were soaked with gasoline.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: On the floorboard was a partly full gas can with a rubber hose attached to the spout.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: See, it seems like he was going to get torched.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: And then they decided against it.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: And then maybe they were like and then they decided against it, and then maybe they were like, I don't know, we're not going to be able to burn it, or for whatever reason, oh, if we do this, it'll just seem like he inhaled gas, maybe, or I don't know.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: About the same time I got there, the plainclothes detective threw the can of gas in the dumpster.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: He said it's just another rock and roll punk, he committed suicide or something like that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, you know, at least we're not the most astute back then, but then he could have been, you know, paid to do that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: At first it was thought that Bobby died after drinking gasoline, but the autopsy revealed no gasoline in his stomach.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: What about anything else?
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: The gas?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just weird.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: On one page it's marked an accident.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: On another page there's a question mark next to the word accident, the question mark next to the word suicide.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: There was nothing conclusive to suggest that Bobby had committed suicide.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: The other unusual aspect of this case was that Bobby looked as if he had been beaten up.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Now, some of this could have been the result of early decomposition of the body yeah, but that wasn't that quick.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Or it could have been earlier injuries, bruises, what have you.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: But two or three people said that he had a broken finger and that there was blood on his shirt.
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Nothing seemed to point to suicide, but the police were insistent.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: See, it seems like they were kind of paid Corruption was much easier to get away with back then.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like it doesn't go on now, but she did say that he had been, his mom had been upset in recent wait.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: Oh, his mom said that he had been upset in recent days, but she did not suggest that he had been depressed or despondent.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: And she was later very upset that they had concluded that he had committed suicide because she believed that he was incapable of that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: But I mean everybody, most people, when it's kind of a surprise like that, they think that A lot of times you don't know or don't realize it.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Those closest to Bobby admit that in the days leading up to his death he was unhappy with Bob Keene and Delphi, so Bob Keene had him killed.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: He hired somebody and he paid off the police.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: That's it, case closed.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Buddy Holly was his god and he wanted to play like Buddy Holly and I was constantly saying, no, don't do that, because you're Bobby Fuller, you have your own talent.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: We were at odds sometimes.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, see, he's trying to make it.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to look up this.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: What's his name?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Bob Keene.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But if it wasn't suicide, was it murder?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: The answer may lie with a beautiful young woman known as Melody, someone, edna Gunderson.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: His mom says Fuller kept a secret Even Bobby's closest friends and her mother.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: His mother didn't really know much about her, except that he was occasionally seeing her and it was very much a clandestine kind of affair.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Some believe Bobby kept the affair secret because Melody's boyfriend, who may have had ties to the mom.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: So there you go, there's the mom.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Part of it was still in the picture.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: That's probably what it was Ed and Nick Anderson.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: There was a very nefarious character in LA at the time.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: He was operating a number of nightclubs and he had a reputation for being a violent man.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Melody was supposedly his girlfriend.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Bobby did have a certain amount of affection for her and tried to see her occasionally.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: That's all we know.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: But that's all it takes.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Dude, all that guy had to do was see them together one time.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: And you know, I'm still gonna look up Bob Keene.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: But that's probably what it was.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: He probably he probably beat him up and was gonna burn him in his car, but then maybe one of his buddies was like dude man, they might come looking at us or something.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: If we just do it make it look like suicide, then no one's gonna question it.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: That's probably what it was.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Bam case solved, all right.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Randy fuller remembers that bobby had planned to go to a party with melody the night.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: What it was Bam Case solved, alright.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Randy Fuller remembers that Bobby had planned to go to a party with Melody the night before he was found dead.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Melody was going to drive him there and introduce him to a lot of big time people and he said that there'd probably be a lot of you know drinking and everything else going on.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: I told him not to do anything that would get him in trouble, alright.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: What happened at the party is unknown, but soon after Bobby's death there were rumors of a drug overdose and a possible cover-up.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Bob King said he heard the stories.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I heard that Melody had turned Bobby on to do an acid a couple times.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: One of the possibilities is that he was at a party with other celebrities and something happened an accident, possibly a fight.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Of course they didn't want to be involved with it, these celebrities.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: So somebody said, well, look, let's make it look like a suicide.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's possible too.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: However, there were no drugs in his system, okay, and no one could explain why he was doused with gasoline.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, here's an update After the initial broadcast.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: What year did this even come out?
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I don't even know.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Well, here's an update.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: After the initial broadcast of this story, unsolved Mysteries received a call from the mysterious woman known as Melody.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Oh wow.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: She confirmed many of the facts we presented in our story, but she disagreed with two important details.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: First, she says she was never involved with anyone who had ties to the mob.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Damn it All right.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: She was never involved with anyone who had ties to the mob Damn it Alright.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: And second, she insists that she was not with Bobby the night he died and that she has no knowledge of the alleged party.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: She also believes that Bobby did not commit suicide.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: More recently, the cause of Bobby's death was officially changed from suicide to accident.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: His family would like to exhume his body in hopes that new technology might be able to solve the mystery of his death.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Man, the mob wouldn't sound good.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Bob Keene, bob Keene.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: So now it's back to Bob Keene.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Alright, I'm gonna.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: Here's another little article about it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and skim through it, stuff that we've already talked about.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's do in this history.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, bobby, the death of his half-brother.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Let's start our reading with the remedy gone.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Bobby taught.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, so they had another brother, despite the recognition.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: On July 18, 66, the band was to have a meeting, but Bobby never showed up.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: Dan Epstein wrote in his linear notes of the Cidal CD entitled Bobby Fuller, something, something, something.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Nobody knew where the young singer went or whom he had gone to see.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: The only thing the band and his mother knew was that Bobby was not home.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Just kind of reading, because I don't want to just read the same stuff over and over again.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: There was yet other theories regarding his death.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: According to Epstein, thugs were sent to kill Fuller by a mobster who was an investor in Bob Keene's label.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: See, so now the mob's back in it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: All right, the mobster would benefit from life insurance, maybe.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's what it was, because that kind of makes a little more sense.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Something.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Life insurance, the Bob Keene guy I'm going to look him up real quick.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Hmm, okay, let's see.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: One more thing.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Where am I at Dang?
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I'm at 30 minutes already.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Crap.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: All right, this is going to be quick, though.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Bob Keene, let's see Bob Keene, delph see Bob Keene, delphi Records.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Let's look up this guy.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Is this guy still alive?
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, no, it was Okay.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: So he's dead About 2009.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Christian Allen is also sometimes known as Bob Keene.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: He was an American producer.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: He was a producer and manager of Ritchie Valens.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: See, I wonder if you know he probably made a buttload of money when Ritchie Valens died.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Wait, no, ritchie Valens, yeah, that was before.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: You know, come on, let me see.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, so this was six years before, so you know, not realizing it at the time, but he made a bunch of money off of Richie Valens dying because of life insurance and maybe took advantage.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: Who knows, died in 87, that's it.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: And maybe took advantage.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Who knows Died in 87.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: They ain't got no information on him.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I don't trust him.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I don't trust him.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Wow, dean, who died?
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: That's kind of weird.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: There's not much information on him.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Uh, keen, who died suddenly kidney failure.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Put by the time Valens died okay, hold on, let's see he time Valens died.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, let's see.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: He immediately put Valens Shorten his name.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, studio Phil Spector, another great guy.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Valens hurt, come on, let's go by the time Valens died eight months later in a plane crash.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Buddy Holly, he had two more hits.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, so Obama came out after he died.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: That was like during Keene.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just watched that movie with Lou Diamond Phillips not that long ago too.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile he became one of the hottest record producers in business.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: A lot of people came to the door.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, he worked with a lot of people, I guess.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Okay, in the 60s he recorded Bobby Fuller.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: That scene, I thought it was a lot longer.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Just a year after Fuller died under mysterious circumstances, his body was found in his car After holding his record companies.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Oh wait.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So Keane, shaken by the tragedy of Fuller, decided to get out of the business.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Hmm, I don't know about that.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: After following his record companies, he promoted the careers of his young sons.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: Keene was born.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Hmm, hmm, I, okay.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: So, hmm, hmm, I okay.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: So I think I think the producer Bob Keane.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I think he had a hand.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he did it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: You know he hired somebody.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: Obviously that's what I'm thinking, because the whole thing is weird.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: The car wasn't there then.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: It was there.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Unless he did it, you know he hired somebody.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Obviously that's what I'm thinking, because the whole thing is weird.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: The car wasn't there then.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: It was there.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Then he had rig and mortise or yeah, and then, like early stages of comp, I don't know, but he wasn't dead for that long, was he?
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: What are the hours that he was dead?
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Or even if he was, by the time the car was there at 5, it doesn't line up.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: He was murdered, without a doubt he was murdered and I think people tried to hide the fact that he was murdered by making it look like a suicide Because he's covered in gas.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't drunk, there was no alcohol, you know what I mean, like pass out or whatever.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: But the picture shows him with his face and the steering wheel's right there.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: So that means he was on the passenger side.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: So I think he was beat up and they were going to torch him in his car, but they decided against it.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know who they is.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it was.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: I think the producer had a hand in it, but they figured that it'd be better to make it look like stage it as a suicide to.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: You know, stop people from really looking too much into it so they could get away with it.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: And they did, you know.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: They probably, you know, gave some money to some of the, the cops and maybe even the guy that did the, the, the autopsy.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, he put the questions mark there.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: So maybe he wasn't paid, but maybe he was instructed by somebody so he was like whoa, don't put on there that he's whatever.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: So he put questions mark, he put the question marks or something.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: I wonder what happened to that guy.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: He was taken out the producer was probably involved somehow Decided to make it look like a suicide and then this guy gets out of the record.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Business, you know.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm thinking happened.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: What do you think?
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Was it suicide?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: If not, who did it?
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Let me know.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Alright, that's it.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging out.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: This was a little bit of a departure from my regular programming, but whatever, I'll see you next time, alright, god bless, bye.