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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, this is a special Big Game Week bonus
- 0:04Speaker 1: episode of the Buckheyest Tomorrow Morning Podcast. This is one
- 0:07Speaker 1: of these weeks, a lot of the Oregon Week, a
- 0:08Speaker 1: lot like the Michigan Game Week will be in a
- 0:10Speaker 1: few weeks. There's just a little too much to talk
- 0:13Speaker 1: about for just one show a day, So we're gonna
- 0:16Speaker 1: give you a bonus episode now. And this is going
- 0:19Speaker 1: to be the rest of the stuff from the James
- 0:21Speaker 1: Franklin press conference on Monday. Let you hear earlier about
- 0:24Speaker 1: all the stuff he had to say about Ohio State
- 0:26Speaker 1: and OHI related topics. This is going to be much
- 0:29Speaker 1: more Penn State focused, but he's going to be talking
- 0:32Speaker 1: about a bunch of stuff that is very, very important
- 0:35Speaker 1: potential storylines for this game. Let's start with the one
- 0:38Speaker 1: that probably is going to get the most attention, and
- 0:40Speaker 1: that is the status of quarterback Drew Aller. Drew Aller,
- 0:42Speaker 1: of course, has been the starter for the nine Allons
- 0:45Speaker 1: all season long, suffered an injury against Wisconsin. Will he
- 0:49Speaker 1: be able to go and really more on, more to
- 0:52Speaker 1: the point, what does James Franklin need to see from
- 0:55Speaker 1: Drew Aler this week before he's ready to make a
- 0:57Speaker 1: decision on whether to start Aller or Bo Prabu.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's played enough football for us that
- 1:04Speaker 2: that that timeline will go all the way up to
- 1:07Speaker 2: the game. Really, I do think from a practice perspective,
- 1:12Speaker 2: we're gonna have to no matter where we're at on Tuesday,
- 1:17Speaker 2: we're gonna have to get both of those guys reps
- 1:20Speaker 2: Tuesday and Wednesday. But it's just it's it's too early
- 1:25Speaker 2: to tell at this point, but he's played enough football
- 1:28Speaker 2: that I think that.
- 1:28Speaker 3: Decision will go all the way up to game time.
- 1:31Speaker 2: But the reality is we're going to have to have
- 1:34Speaker 2: both guys ready, and you could even make the argument
- 1:37Speaker 2: all three guys ready, which is challenging to do in
- 1:41Speaker 2: a game week, is to try to get all those
- 1:43Speaker 2: guys ready. So I have had some conversations with Danny
- 1:47Speaker 2: and Andy about that already. We'll continue to have conversations
- 1:50Speaker 2: about it. But I do think Drew has played enough
- 1:53Speaker 2: football that that it'll go all the way up to
- 1:57Speaker 2: game time until we make that decision.
- 1:59Speaker 1: A big game means a big game week for distractions
- 2:02Speaker 1: as well. Give me a big recruiting weekend for the
- 2:05Speaker 1: nine Lions. It's also a big week for nil, for
- 2:08Speaker 1: players and for media attention. So how does James Franklin
- 2:12Speaker 1: deal with that to balance the fact that there's a
- 2:14Speaker 1: lot more interest, a lot more opportunities, but also that
- 2:17Speaker 1: can mean a lot more distractions.
- 2:19Speaker 2: Nothing changes for us. We have our same process with
- 2:24Speaker 2: the players in terms of how we operate, you know,
- 2:28Speaker 2: with those topics in season, and our guys do a.
- 2:32Speaker 3: Good job with that.
- 2:33Speaker 2: I think that's probably it's funny because I just talked
- 2:36Speaker 2: about that.
- 2:37Speaker 3: This morning in the staff.
- 2:38Speaker 2: I think that's a big part of my job, right
- 2:39Speaker 2: is we have some media policies kind of just how
- 2:44Speaker 2: we govern ourselves and how we go about our business,
- 2:46Speaker 2: which is magnified all weeks like this when everybody reaches
- 2:51Speaker 2: out and wants to do interviews with specific players, and
- 2:55Speaker 2: by saying, hey, players are only going to do two
- 2:58Speaker 2: interviews mac per week helps with that, helps manage that.
- 3:03Speaker 3: And then it's kind of the same with the staff.
- 3:05Speaker 3: You know, we're not a Bill.
- 3:07Speaker 2: Belichick level of program in terms of it's a one
- 3:10Speaker 2: voice deal. We don't go to that extreme, but we're
- 3:14Speaker 2: also just not wide open either. So trying to keep
- 3:17Speaker 2: this thing is consistent and is structured as possible uh,
- 3:23Speaker 2: so that we can stick to our normal routine. But
- 3:27Speaker 2: all the other things, you know, the stadium, you know,
- 3:34Speaker 2: different things that that are going on, we don't deal
- 3:38Speaker 2: with that. That's where Vinnie and Pat and the administration
- 3:43Speaker 2: handle all those things. For me, I'm you know, I'm
- 3:46Speaker 2: worried about the last football building and the practice facility
- 3:49Speaker 2: and and then Beaver Stadium, the playing surface, in the
- 3:53Speaker 2: locker room and all those other things outside of that.
- 3:57Speaker 3: We we try not to spend.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Uh any if not very little time on it.
- 4:04Speaker 1: If Drew Aller is not able to go on Saturday,
- 4:06Speaker 1: it would be Bo Pribula getting the start for the
- 4:08Speaker 1: Nitney Lions. What was the most important or impressive part
- 4:12Speaker 1: of Prebula's performance in the win at Wisconsin where he
- 4:15Speaker 1: had to come off the bench and sort of save
- 4:17Speaker 1: the day for the Nidney Lions. And how is the
- 4:19Speaker 1: offense different with him at end quarterback? Then when they
- 4:22Speaker 1: have Drew Aller in there and you're going to hear
- 4:25Speaker 1: him talk about Andy here, that would be Andy Kittle
- 4:27Speaker 1: Nikki depend State offensive coordinator.
- 4:30Speaker 3: Well, a couple of things.
- 4:31Speaker 2: If I'm understanding your question correctly, I think I think
- 4:34Speaker 2: as a defense, it's It's difficult because I think when
- 4:39Speaker 2: your play you're preparing for.
- 4:44Speaker 3: You know Drew and and you know.
- 4:48Speaker 2: Bo will have his few plays that we sprinkle in
- 4:52Speaker 2: there per quarter.
- 4:55Speaker 3: That's difficult.
- 4:56Speaker 2: But when when the kind of the game play on
- 4:59Speaker 2: flips right and Bo's in there, it changes it dramatically,
- 5:03Speaker 2: I think for the defense, and that is difficult.
- 5:06Speaker 3: Most people aren't built like that, right.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Your quarterbacks are all similar type guys, and ours are
- 5:13Speaker 2: are very different in a lot of ways. I don't
- 5:17Speaker 2: think we're in a situation where the offense totally changes.
- 5:22Speaker 2: But what's nice about us, and it was a big
- 5:25Speaker 2: reason and bringing Andy here, is we do enough things
- 5:29Speaker 2: and we have enough diversity within our playbook that we
- 5:33Speaker 2: are able to focus on the strengths of the players
- 5:36Speaker 2: that are in there. And that's all I really did
- 5:39Speaker 2: on Saturday was just remind Andy of that, because this
- 5:43Speaker 2: is a little bit of a problem in the past,
- 5:45Speaker 2: in practice and in games that you really should strategically
- 5:51Speaker 2: call the game differently now with Boe in the game,
- 5:54Speaker 2: and just reminding Andy of that, let's call this game
- 5:59Speaker 2: playing to Bow's strengths. So obviously, the threat of the
- 6:07Speaker 2: quarterback run impacts the defense. The spike of more quarterback
- 6:13Speaker 2: possible runs and scrambles affects the defense, and then obviously
- 6:20Speaker 2: the strength in the passing games. You know, Bo still
- 6:24Speaker 2: can do all those things as well, So it's just,
- 6:28Speaker 2: you know, it's it's another kind of level of concern
- 6:33Speaker 2: that I think it creates for the defense of things
- 6:35Speaker 2: that they have to deal with. So I think the
- 6:38Speaker 2: other thing I think that's really important I probably has
- 6:40Speaker 2: not gotten talked about a whole lot, is just the
- 6:44Speaker 2: way Bo has gone about his business since he's arrived
- 6:47Speaker 2: on his campus. He's got everybody's respect and confidence and trust,
- 6:53Speaker 2: so that when he went in the game, I think
- 6:55Speaker 2: there was a lot of confidence from our team that,
- 6:59Speaker 2: you know, we are blessed and fortunate to have a
- 7:01Speaker 2: guy like Bo here in that role.
- 7:04Speaker 1: One of the other big injury questions this week for
- 7:06Speaker 1: Penn State involves Dennis Smith. He is one of the
- 7:10Speaker 1: pass rushers for the Nitney Lions. Looked like he could
- 7:13Speaker 1: be one of the potential mismatches that they might be
- 7:15Speaker 1: able to take advantage of against the banged up Ohio
- 7:17Speaker 1: State offensive line, and then he suffered a groin injury.
- 7:20Speaker 1: It ll appeared against Wisconsin so you know, is he
- 7:24Speaker 1: in the same boat as Drew Aller in terms of
- 7:26Speaker 1: having enough experience to just sort of be able to
- 7:27Speaker 1: take the decision right up the game time and not
- 7:30Speaker 1: necessarily need to practice to play. You're going to heart
- 7:33Speaker 1: Also in this answer, hear him talk about Max. He's
- 7:36Speaker 1: talking about Max Granville, who is a freshman defensive end
- 7:38Speaker 1: out of Texas who might be called on if Dennis
- 7:41Speaker 1: Smith cannot play.
- 7:43Speaker 2: Deny will have the ability to play in this game.
- 7:45Speaker 2: He's played a ton of football. He's super mature, it's
- 7:49Speaker 2: very intelligent, it's thoughtful, he's hard working. He's been in
- 7:53Speaker 2: the training room the last two days. Every time I've
- 7:56Speaker 2: gone down there, he's down there. So same thing. We'll
- 8:01Speaker 2: go right up the game time to see, uh, kind
- 8:05Speaker 2: of where we're at with things. If he's able to go,
- 8:08Speaker 2: he'll go, But if not, we have we have a
- 8:11Speaker 2: ton of confidence in those other guys as well. And
- 8:14Speaker 2: then I think you guys saw we played Max as well,
- 8:17Speaker 2: so we'll be prepared to play Max this week. You know,
- 8:22Speaker 2: he's still under the threshold of red shirting, which we'd
- 8:26Speaker 2: like to try to do if we can. But if
- 8:28Speaker 2: it comes down to you know winning, we're gonna we're
- 8:31Speaker 2: gonna do what we gotta do to win the game.
- 8:32Speaker 3: And Max is on board with that as well.
- 8:35Speaker 2: So too early to tell at this point, but yeah,
- 8:41Speaker 2: those are veteran guys that have played enough football and
- 8:44Speaker 2: are intelligent guys that that we feel like, you know,
- 8:47Speaker 2: they'll be able to go in and get the job done.
- 8:50Speaker 1: You heard him earlier reference Andy cotle Nikki, the new
- 8:53Speaker 1: offensive coordinator.
- 8:54Speaker 3: What made him an.
- 8:55Speaker 1: Attractive OC target for James Franklin to begin with? And
- 8:59Speaker 1: it's again we're gonna give you a little subtext here.
- 9:02Speaker 1: You'll hear him talk about Lance. That is Lance Lighthold,
- 9:04Speaker 1: who is the former Buffalo head coach now at Kansas.
- 9:08Speaker 2: Yeah, so a couple things Andy, Andy has been kind
- 9:15Speaker 2: of on my radar for a while. Actually interviewed him
- 9:20Speaker 2: for our tight ends job when I hired Ty Howe.
- 9:24Speaker 2: We played Buffalo when him and Lance we're at Buffalo
- 9:27Speaker 2: and had done a good job. And then Lance and
- 9:30Speaker 2: Andy came and visited a couple of times. I got
- 9:34Speaker 2: a ton of respect for Lance and what he's been
- 9:36Speaker 2: able to do. And then you know, Andy's been calling
- 9:40Speaker 2: plays for a long time. You know, I think he's
- 9:43Speaker 2: been doing it for nineteen years, and there's value in
- 9:45Speaker 2: that type of experience. But probably the thing Dennis, to
- 9:51Speaker 2: answer your question specifically, was, you know, we did some
- 9:55Speaker 2: really good things the last couple of years, but where
- 9:58Speaker 2: we were lacking last year blosive plays.
- 10:00Speaker 3: So then we kind of.
- 10:02Speaker 2: Started to look at who are the coordinators and who
- 10:06Speaker 2: are the teams that are producing explosive plays, and not
- 10:10Speaker 2: just because their genetics are better, Like, you know, where
- 10:14Speaker 2: are the explosive plays coming from, how are they being created,
- 10:17Speaker 2: are they happening on a consistent basis, and also are
- 10:22Speaker 2: they doing it against their biggest competition. So when you
- 10:26Speaker 2: kind of looked at those types of things, you know,
- 10:30Speaker 2: the list narrowed down pretty quickly. And then the fact
- 10:33Speaker 2: that we had already had a relationship and been talking
- 10:36Speaker 2: for a while that helped. And then obviously I know
- 10:40Speaker 2: how Lance felt about them, and I have so much
- 10:43Speaker 2: respect for Lance. And then I will say this too,
- 10:47Speaker 2: you know I got to give Kansas and Lance, and
- 10:51Speaker 2: I got to give their athletic director a ton of
- 10:54Speaker 2: credit because it wasn't easy hired.
- 10:57Speaker 3: He's been with Lance for a long time.
- 10:59Speaker 2: You don't make that move unless you feel good about it,
- 11:02Speaker 2: and I think Kansas is committed to winning in football
- 11:07Speaker 2: at a level that we probably haven't seen for a
- 11:09Speaker 2: long time. And that's a credit to their head coach
- 11:12Speaker 2: and their athletic director as well, because it wasn't easy
- 11:14Speaker 2: to hire him.
- 11:15Speaker 1: The third of the potential big injury stories this week
- 11:18Speaker 1: is at right tackle. When Anthony Donka is hurt, will
- 11:23Speaker 1: he be able to go? We'll see Nolan Rucci, former
- 11:26Speaker 1: five star recruit, is behind him as a potential backup
- 11:30Speaker 1: and the guy next man up if Dunko is not
- 11:32Speaker 1: able to play. But it sounds like this is a
- 11:35Speaker 1: little bit of a different situation where with it Donka
- 11:38Speaker 1: not necessarily being able to have as much experience as
- 11:40Speaker 1: the other guys we talked about earlier, they might not
- 11:43Speaker 1: be in the same boat in terms of when they
- 11:45Speaker 1: need to make a decision there.
- 11:46Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously I don't think Anthony's in the same
- 11:50Speaker 2: category of those guys in terms of just a number
- 11:53Speaker 2: of games he's played in. I mean, he's really a
- 11:56Speaker 2: first year starter this year. Both Deny and Drew are
- 12:00Speaker 2: multiple year starters now, so it's a little bit different.
- 12:03Speaker 2: We've already been playing Ruccie a bunch anyway, but we're
- 12:07Speaker 2: going to need both of those guys, so, you know,
- 12:10Speaker 2: living in the training room, and I think there's also
- 12:14Speaker 2: really for all of our players, there's that maturation process
- 12:18Speaker 2: that I think a lot of times comes from the
- 12:20Speaker 2: players of figuring out what can you play with and
- 12:27Speaker 2: should you play with and what can't you and guys
- 12:31Speaker 2: have to figure that out. That's part of maturity and
- 12:33Speaker 2: growth as a football player. Obviously, ultimately the medical people
- 12:39Speaker 2: will step in there when a guy can't play, but
- 12:43Speaker 2: I'm talking about the guys that can play that have
- 12:47Speaker 2: to kind of figure out how to play with those
- 12:50Speaker 2: bumps and bruises and things like that. So that's where
- 12:52Speaker 2: that leadership is really important. I think Donka is working
- 12:58Speaker 2: through that right now. This week will be really important.
- 13:00Speaker 2: He's a great kid, he's a smart kid. He was
- 13:03Speaker 2: in a training room when I left as well him
- 13:05Speaker 2: and Roucci. So we expect to play both of those guys.
- 13:11Speaker 2: But it's too early to say.
- 13:13Speaker 1: I've talked before about the fact that I always like
- 13:15Speaker 1: talking to James Franklin at Big ten media days, and
- 13:18Speaker 1: I know there's lots of other stuff going around around
- 13:20Speaker 1: James Franklin and he's not necessarily universally loved, but you
- 13:23Speaker 1: do get thoughtful answers out of him when you're sitting
- 13:26Speaker 1: down and talking to him in a media setting, and
- 13:29Speaker 1: so this is an example of that. He was asked,
- 13:31Speaker 1: what is the identity of his team right now? At
- 13:34Speaker 1: this point of the season. Do they know what the
- 13:35Speaker 1: identity of the team is? Now? He's not going to
- 13:38Speaker 1: answer the question, but he's not going to answer the
- 13:40Speaker 1: question in a really interesting way because it really kind
- 13:44Speaker 1: of gets into how he approaches preparation for when they're
- 13:47Speaker 1: facing other teams.
- 13:48Speaker 3: Yeah, good question, and I understand the question.
- 13:50Speaker 2: I'm not going to answer that because in my mind,
- 13:55Speaker 2: what I try to do every single week is try
- 13:58Speaker 2: to get the identity of the team we're playing and
- 14:02Speaker 2: use that against them. I think whenever you can say, Okay,
- 14:06Speaker 2: this is what this team's identity is, and we're going
- 14:09Speaker 2: to take take it away.
- 14:12Speaker 3: And use it in our advantage.
- 14:15Speaker 2: So I think you guys got a pretty good idea
- 14:19Speaker 2: at this stage of what our identity is and how
- 14:23Speaker 2: we've played and how we've won games. But I don't
- 14:29Speaker 2: think there's a question of that anymore. I think the
- 14:31Speaker 2: first three to four games there was some questions about
- 14:34Speaker 2: that who we were going to be, But I think
- 14:37Speaker 2: at this stage that that's pretty established, and.
- 14:41Speaker 3: More times than not, it doesn't matter what I say,
- 14:43Speaker 3: it's what it's what you guys say and what you
- 14:44Speaker 3: guys right anyway, that that matters. So I'll let I'll
- 14:48Speaker 3: let you, I'll let you describe that.
- 14:52Speaker 1: If bo Pabula is forced to go because Drew Aller
- 14:55Speaker 1: is not available on Saturday, it will make the Penn
- 14:58Speaker 1: State offense different certainly then it would be under Aler.
- 15:01Speaker 1: Pabula as a much better scramble game, much more mobile
- 15:04Speaker 1: than Aler is. But he's also grown quite a bit
- 15:07Speaker 1: since high school as a passer. Jim Franklin was asked
- 15:10Speaker 1: about bo Prebula's growth in the throw game.
- 15:13Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I even go back to watching him
- 15:17Speaker 2: in high school. I remember, you know, as you guys know,
- 15:19Speaker 2: I try to go out and see all the seniors
- 15:20Speaker 2: if I can, that are committed to us, and I
- 15:26Speaker 2: remember going to watching him play, and I remember coming
- 15:28Speaker 2: back and just being so impressed. The game looks so
- 15:32Speaker 2: easy to him, he was so poised the game I
- 15:35Speaker 2: was at. You know, I mean, you guys can go
- 15:37Speaker 2: back and look at but it was, like I want
- 15:38Speaker 2: to say, it was like fourteen or sixteen or something
- 15:40Speaker 2: like that.
- 15:40Speaker 3: It just looks so.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Easy to him athletically, accuracy, decision making. I came back
- 15:49Speaker 2: and we just really impressed watching him play live, and
- 15:53Speaker 2: then he showed up on our campus. And he's smart,
- 15:58Speaker 2: and he's mature, and he's extremely competitive and attacks it
- 16:05Speaker 2: in every area in the weight room, the classroom, on
- 16:08Speaker 2: the field.
- 16:10Speaker 3: His teammates love him. He's just done everything kind of
- 16:14Speaker 3: the right way.
- 16:15Speaker 2: And I think probably the thing that everybody talks about is
- 16:19Speaker 2: his ability to make plays with his legs, But I
- 16:24Speaker 2: don't think there's anybody within our program that that that
- 16:27Speaker 2: also doesn't believe that that he can do it with
- 16:30Speaker 2: his arm too. He's got a different throwing kind of
- 16:35Speaker 2: style and mechanics than than what than what Drew does,
- 16:39Speaker 2: but he gets a ton of reps and a ton
- 16:43Speaker 2: of opportunities. And I will say this too, in the past,
- 16:46Speaker 2: there was some challenges where I felt like when he played,
- 16:49Speaker 2: we had to call the game differently, and I still
- 16:52Speaker 2: believe that, but I also think there's some times in
- 16:56Speaker 2: the past where we didn't do that and he would
- 16:59Speaker 2: play more of a style play like Drew, and I
- 17:05Speaker 2: think in a lot of ways that's benefited him too,
- 17:08Speaker 2: because he's had to prepare as if he's not the
- 17:12Speaker 2: mobile quarterback.
- 17:13Speaker 3: That he is.
- 17:14Speaker 2: So I think there's positives that come from that as
- 17:18Speaker 2: well throughout his development. But I think I thought Andy
- 17:22Speaker 2: did a phenomenal job of calling the game based on
- 17:25Speaker 2: his strengths. And then I think the other thing is
- 17:29Speaker 2: I would make the argument, just like we've talked about
- 17:32Speaker 2: in the past, when he goes in the game, it
- 17:35Speaker 2: does impact our running game and forces them to defend
- 17:39Speaker 2: the field, just like Drew's ability to pull the ball
- 17:42Speaker 2: now and run out the backside, I think has really
- 17:45Speaker 2: impacted our running game this year.
- 17:48Speaker 3: I would say the same thing in the past game.
- 17:50Speaker 2: His bow's threat as a runner, just like play action
- 17:56Speaker 2: pass create some opportunities.
- 18:00Speaker 3: People may feel like they have to spy him.
- 18:02Speaker 2: So now you're leaving somebody that you're not dropping in
- 18:04Speaker 2: the coverage, which creates some more opportunities to throw the
- 18:07Speaker 2: ball down the field.
- 18:08Speaker 3: So it's another weapon. It's another thing that they have
- 18:12Speaker 3: to deal with.
- 18:12Speaker 2: And I've been very, very pleased with his overall development
- 18:17Speaker 2: as a total quarterback more than just his athleticism and
- 18:21Speaker 2: his legs.
- 18:22Speaker 1: And finally another name that I'm sure people know already
- 18:25Speaker 1: from the Penn State defense, Abdul Carter defensive end. He's
- 18:28Speaker 1: another guy who I think a lot of people are
- 18:30Speaker 1: sort of looking at with a little bit of concern
- 18:32Speaker 1: this week given some of Ohio State struggles on the
- 18:34Speaker 1: offensive line and what that might look like against a
- 18:38Speaker 1: rush edge like Abdul Carter. And State actually did something
- 18:41Speaker 1: a little different with Carter last week. They had him
- 18:44Speaker 1: play off ball as a linebacker last week. That's something
- 18:47Speaker 1: they had not really shown before. So what goes into
- 18:50Speaker 1: a decision like that for James Franklin and decisions on
- 18:53Speaker 1: when you make a tweak like that.
- 18:55Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is we want to make sure,
- 18:59Speaker 2: just like on off from a game plan in perspective,
- 19:01Speaker 2: kind of like what you do with Tyler Warren, very
- 19:04Speaker 2: similar defensively, Right, if Abdull Carter is always lined up
- 19:10Speaker 2: at the same side at defensive end, then you can
- 19:15Speaker 2: you can.
- 19:15Speaker 3: See what happens.
- 19:16Speaker 2: Right, people are going to make sure they always have
- 19:19Speaker 2: a running back chip into that side, or they line
- 19:21Speaker 2: up a tight end to that side to extend the
- 19:25Speaker 2: length of the line of scrimmage or the excuse me,
- 19:27Speaker 2: the the offensive line to widen him from the quarterback
- 19:33Speaker 2: to now chip him with the tight end on the
- 19:35Speaker 2: way out. It's funny because sometimes people say, well, they're
- 19:39Speaker 2: in an empty formation, but they're really not. Because they
- 19:42Speaker 2: got a tight end in the wing position and a
- 19:43Speaker 2: running back in the wing position, nobody in the backfield.
- 19:46Speaker 3: It's not really an empty formation.
- 19:48Speaker 2: So what you're trying to do is you're trying to
- 19:52Speaker 2: game plan on defense where you can move Abdul around
- 19:56Speaker 2: where the offense can't say we're always going to to
- 20:00Speaker 2: ship with a tight end, ship with a running back,
- 20:02Speaker 2: slide the line to try to create a double team
- 20:06Speaker 2: to his side with the guard and tackle, and by
- 20:11Speaker 2: moving him around from left defensive end to right defensive
- 20:14Speaker 2: end to off the ball linebacker who now can walk
- 20:18Speaker 2: up into like a bear front over the center or
- 20:21Speaker 2: off the ball and blitz. You know, there's obviously an
- 20:27Speaker 2: advantage to doing that. I think the other thing is
- 20:32Speaker 2: his linebacker days help him as a dropper as well,
- 20:36Speaker 2: because although defensive ends typically drop in a lot of
- 20:40Speaker 2: people's schemes, it's not something that they're natural at. Where
- 20:45Speaker 2: Abdul that comes very natural to him. He's made interceptions
- 20:49Speaker 2: and plays in the passing game in that role as well,
- 20:52Speaker 2: but obviously more times than not, we'd preferm rushing the quarterback.
- 20:58Speaker 2: So just having diverse city within what we do is
- 21:03Speaker 2: important schematically, but also to put him in the best
- 21:06Speaker 2: position to be productive and cause challenges and issues for
- 21:12Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator and a quarterback and the center to
- 21:15Speaker 2: id where he's going to be and how they're going
- 21:17Speaker 2: to account for him. So very similar to what we're
- 21:20Speaker 2: doing on offense with Tyler Warm trying to do the
- 21:22Speaker 2: same thing on defense with a duel. Some of those things,
- 21:25Speaker 2: to your point, we've done that week based on our
- 21:27Speaker 2: opponent and where we think there's there's issues.
- 21:31Speaker 3: And then on top of that, some of them are
- 21:34Speaker 3: game plan.
- 21:34Speaker 2: Specific based on who you're playing or you've been working
- 21:39Speaker 2: on it for the last couple of.
- 21:40Speaker 3: Weeks, you know, just waiting for the right time to
- 21:42Speaker 3: use it.
- 21:43Speaker 1: So that will do it for this episode of the
- 21:45Speaker 1: Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning Podcast. We'll be back with more on Tuesday.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Going to get a chance to talk to a high
- 21:51Speaker 1: state head coach, Ryan Day, defensive coordinator Gym Knowles, and
- 21:53Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Chip Kelly, a lot of stuff to talk
- 21:56Speaker 1: about there with all three of those guys. We'll be
- 21:59Speaker 1: back with more or after that episode after those interviews,
- 22:02Speaker 1: and then we'll of course have much more coming up
- 22:05Speaker 1: this week. Again, big game means extra coverage for you
- 22:08Speaker 1: at the Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning Podcast as well as at
- 22:10Speaker 1: Buckeyehuddle dot com. We've got our whole team covering the Buckeyes, Kevin,
- 22:14Speaker 1: Tony and I covering the team, Mark cover and recruiting,
- 22:16Speaker 1: our whole team of x's and those guruz and yeah,
- 22:18Speaker 1: we'll have some shows with them later in this week
- 22:20Speaker 1: as well. It is all at Buckey Huddle dot com
- 22:23Speaker 1: and at YouTube dot com slash Buckeye Huddle.
- 22:25Speaker 3: That'll do it for now. We'll talk to you later
- 22:27Speaker 3: on