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Jeff Rimer's Broadcasting Journey, New Book, and Live Sports Insights · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  Welcome into the Scene Project Sports Network.
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  I am your host, Bubba Starts, and we have a very special guest with us today, longtime
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  professional broadcaster, Jeff Rimmer.
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  Jeff, welcome to the show.
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  Great to to be with you, Bubba.
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  Looking forward to this, and we have been for a better part of a week when you and I first
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  hooked up.
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  Well and I I I forget that we're gonna have to add a author to your title here very soon as
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  you're getting ready to publish your new book.
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  It doesn't get any better than this.
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  We're gonna talk a lot more about that as we get on the conversation, but I I'd love to open
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  up the show here.
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  Just getting a little bit of your back story, your your lengthy career in the broadcasting
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  world, and we'll pick it up from there.
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  Well, it's been a long, long career, and, I never worked a day in my life.
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  I can tell you that, I knew in high school, the tenth grade, that I was gonna be a professional
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  broadcaster because coming from Canada and growing up for my first sixteen years in
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  Toronto, I wanted to be a national hockey league player.
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  But, unfortunately, my career was short lived.
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  My dad passed away.
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  My mom remarried.
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  We moved to Calgary.
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  Made a good friend of John Davidson, Davidson, who starred for the New York rangers.
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  Met him in the tenth grade in high school.
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  He convinced me to try out.
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  He was an outstanding goaltender, in junior hockey, and he had me try out for the triple a
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  midget team.
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  I was cut before practice.
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  Then how about this?
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  I get tapped on the shoulder before practice, and the first guy off the ice told house league
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  starts Monday, went to House League Outdoor Rink.
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  Next thing I know, I'm on the Snowbank, and it was at that point I decided I was gonna be a
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  hockey broadcaster.
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  But it was a long ways from the, tenth grade in a snowbank to, eventually making it to the
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  National Hockey League.
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  But I also spent a good deal of time in baseball and the Olympics.
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  I did the Olympics in '76 in Montreal for the Canadian network, CBC, working alongside ABC
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  and Chris Schenkel, hall of fame broadcaster.
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  Jim McKay was right there as well.
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  That was the seventy six Olympics, and I had the feature event, which was gymnastics with
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  Nadia Komenech in all her tens.
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  And I was pronouncing, the names correctly because CBC was kind enough to send me to
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  events before the Olympics, and then they asked me to, help out with ABC and the pronunciations
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  of the Russians and, the Romanian names.
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  And, boy, that was an asset now covering hockey for as long as I did.
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  But forty eight years in the NHL, twenty years in in baseball, both in Montreal with the expos
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  in those early eighties where they had Gary Carter, Andre Dawson, Tim Raines, all hall of
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  famers today.
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  And then on to Baltimore with my good friend Cal Ripken junior.
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  And there's a funny story, in my book about, Cal and I and being renamed Jeff Ripken as
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  opposed to Jeff Rimmer, but there's a story behind that as well.
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  We may have time, but, certainly, the book is there, and it's a great all encompassing book,
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  not only for, sports fans of hockey, baseball, Olympics, and whatever, but it's also a bit of
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  a tutorial for young people that wanna get into broadcasting or journalism on how to do it and
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  how hard you have to work and how to set it all up.
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  But, that's certainly something we can discuss later.
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  Well and I love that because we are new in this space as broadcasters and journalists around
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  sports, and and really anyone has that ability to do it.
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  It's a reason that we started the sports network on the YouTube channel and on the
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  podcast feeds because we have our own takes.
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  We wanna talk about sports.
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  It's what we're doing anyway.
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  And with the proliferation of fan generated content available on the Internet, it was why
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  not?
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  If you have the ability to do so and you have you know, whether it's just yourself doing a
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  solo show or you have guys that would love to get together and share that experience and talk
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  about, you know, whatever sport it is.
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  Right?
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  We we talk football.
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  We talk golf on this network, baseball, and and hockey coming later this year, which is why I
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  reached out and and but I didn't know that we were gonna get to have this conversation.
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  And and I love that in your book, the tutorial of of teaching young people how they can do it.
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  The the barrier to entry is much lower now than it ever was for you growing up.
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  Absolutely.
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  Absolutely.
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  It's, it's hard work.
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  I think it's a little tougher now to get to that upper echelon, and you see all these cut
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  cutbacks.
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  Look at ESPN yesterday.
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  Carl, ravaged thirty three years.
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  Ravaged that he was their number one broadcaster on Major League Baseball.
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  Cut.
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  He's out of ESPN when his contract's up.
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  It's, it's a very, very tough situation today, and that's why you've gotta work.
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  You've gotta work to get there.
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  And as I've said to many young broadcasters and journalists that I I get tapes and talk to a
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  lot of people along the way, you have to be committed and prepared to really pay a price.
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  But guess what?
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  When you get to the top of the mountain, it's very, very rewarding.
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  Well and and a life well lived.
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  Right?
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  I I don't know any broadcaster, and I know most of them feel exactly like you do that they
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  never had to work in a day.
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  They never dreaded going to the office because you got to go and to, you know, not just call
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  the games, but to become friends with some of these players and and absolute legends of the
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  game.
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  You obviously dropped Cal Ripken Junior's name out there and and others and Muhammad Ali while
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  we were off.
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  And so many people that you've had a brief interaction with and you don't become best
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  friends with all of them, but you get to kind of I equate it to, you know, touching the sun a
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  little bit.
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  Right?
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  You you get up close and personal and get to have these conversations and ask that one
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  question that maybe now becomes a clip that lasts forever.
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  Bubba, let me say, from the outset here, and this is something that I learned very, very
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  young in my career.
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  And in fact, had a executive actually applaud me for my take, and that is you never break a
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  confidence.
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  And I've made a lot of great friends along the way in sports.
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  I've maintained a lot of friendships.
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  And, again, it's illustrated in the book as well.
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  You don't ever break a confidence.
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  If you can gain the trust of these athletes, these performers, these entertainers, you're in
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  for life, and they will respect you beyond your belief.
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  And that is something that I've cherished since early on.
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  And as I had a young executive tell me early on in my career, it is so important it is so
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  important to maintain professionalism, but also the confidence of the people that you're
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  talking to that you're not gonna burn them.
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  And, yeah, I mean, I'm not the kind of guy that's and and there are broadcasters that are
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  very successful today that, they're poison pens.
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  They're poison broadcasters.
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  They don't care.
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  They'll tell you what they believe, and they may expose a thing or two.
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  But those are the guys that, well, they live their life, but I choose to live it differently
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  than I have throughout my career.
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  Yeah.
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  And without any regrets, I I don't think that any of us as broadcasters and sports
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  journalists that, I'm never doing it for the clicks or for some notoriety and a brief flash
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  in the pan.
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  I'm doing it because I love the access.
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  I love getting to to hear the stories.
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  And for me, being someone who works, for a nonprofit, Operation Combating Veteran Suicide,
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  which you can see behind me here as director of marketing and PR, I'm always looking for an
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  angle maybe to have these people help us with their foundation, but also to help them with
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  theirs.
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  So I'm much more interested in getting to know them on a more personal level and finding ways
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  that we can serve them in their foundation and doing some good in the world rather than just
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  betraying their confidence and printing something that you would know they would never
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  want out there or, you know, be smirching someone's name just for a few clicks and a a
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  quick bit of notoriety on the Internet.
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  Well, good for you, Bella.
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  And for coming on with you and finding out a little bit more about you, I really appreciate
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  and respect what you're doing, not only on the air and these podcasts and whatever, but what
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  you're doing in your community and communities around.
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  Good for you.
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  And, I I know that, you're a first rate person, and a lot of success is gonna already come your
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  way.
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  There's even more ahead.
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  I appreciate that.
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  Means the world to me coming from you, Jeff.
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  I I I I know it's hard to narrow it down to just a few moments, and that's why your book is
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  as extensive as it is.
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  But is there one call, that sticks out with you, among the, you know, tens of thousands
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  that will just be something that, you know, in your later years that has just stuck with you?
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  And what's that really that one moment that you'll live with forever?
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  There's the book, and there is the call.
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  It doesn't get any better than this.
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  There's a backup, title as well, unforgettable calls in the booth and unexpected turns in
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  life.
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  But that call was ruled on, TSN in Canada, the goal of the decade.
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  ESPN used it on their promotion for hockey for quite some time.
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  Never got any royalties, but it was great.
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  It was great to see the sport in that call used.
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  And what it was was the goal in Arizona, the Phoenix Coyotes and the Columbus Blue Jackets,
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  and Rick Nash, the captain and, a player certainly capable of being in the Hall of Fame,
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  the greatest Blue Jacket of all time, their captain, and a good, you know, great personal
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  friend.
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  He got a penalty late in the game.
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  It resulted in a power play goal for Arizona tying the game late.
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  There was maybe more than a little more than a minute left in the game.
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  And what happened next was and I could see Rick Nash, and I read I read his mind.
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  He was so upset about the penalty, which needlessly never should have been called, and,
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  came out of the box, picked up the puck on a pass from Mike Pekka, went through the entire
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  Coyote's team, beat the goaltender after, turning the two defensemen around like
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  turnstiles and put the puck into the net for the game winning goal.
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  It was a thing of beauty.
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  And as I said in calling the goal, and it was spontaneous, it doesn't get any better than
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  this, and it doesn't.
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  Because as I say, it was the goal of the decade.
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  I was just a small part of it.
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  And that's why we watch sports.
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  That's why we're enthralled with with live sports and every bit that we can now having it
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  available on our phones and with us all the time.
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  I know that I have always been a huge fan of being in the stadium, especially for hockey.
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  Those who don't understand the game of hockey, just go watch it in person.
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  It's okay to watch on TV, and it can be exciting there.
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  But being in the stadium for the energy and the elation of a goal, especially if you're in your
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  home stadium.
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  But, you know, as a Blackhawks fan, I've gotten to visit a few opposing stadiums as well, and,
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  sometimes it's even better celebrating an enemy territory.
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  Well, let me tell you that, I've been broadcasting long enough to have called games
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  in the old Chicago Stadium.
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  And you have to go up the stairs all the way to the top of the old building and then climb
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  through the stands and out into a bucket over the ice at the old stadium.
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  And it was great because you were literally hanging over the ice.
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  And let me tell you, you could almost reach out and touch the players below you.
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  And I saw some great black hawks.
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  My youngest memory of, the Chicago black hawks is 1961.
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  It's the year they won the Stanley Cup.
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  And, players like Bobby Hall and Ken Warren, Pierre Polotta.
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  Can go through the entire team.
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  Glenn Hall and Gull.
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  My dad in Toronto let me stay up till midnight to watch the cup being presented to the black
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  hawks, and that was certainly one of my thrills.
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  Of course, the United Center in Chicago is is a spectacular building, one of my favorites in
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  the entire National Hockey League.
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  It is huge.
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  And when they sing the anthem in that building, it's second to none.
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  Yeah.
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  There's nobody better.
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  Jim Cornelius said, I've had those trade.
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  And before him, we've been blessed.
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  Right?
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  Absolutely, as sports fans in Chicago.
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  We've lived in South Dakota for years, but I've always had, attachments to the teams there.
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  And, it's been a blessing for me.
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  It's probably why I am so passionate about, you know, sports to this day.
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  Really no no better sports cities.
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  I don't think there's a very short list of cities that rank up there.
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  Talk about being I know that you kinda came on with Columbus when the franchise was just
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  starting.
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  You had been out of the league, I think, for a little bit during the the lockout you you had
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  mentioned.
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  Talk about coming back and kind of being there for the beginning of a franchise.
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  Well, actually, I was there for the lockout year.
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  They hired me, immediately once word came that, there was a chance at that time that, the
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  National Hockey League would be shut down because Gary Betman, the commissioner, wanted a
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  salary cap, which he got by basically sitting out that entire 2004, 2005 season.
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  I, had a four year contract with Fox Sports in Florida.
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  I did the Florida Panthers through their first eleven years of the franchise and, agreed to a
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  new four year contract that was sent to New York and rejected because they pretty well
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  knew, and, Gary Beckman was up front with all the rights holders that they would likely lose
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  the entire season unless they got that salary cap.
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  So my contract was sent back to Florida.
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  And what they did was they said, we'll pay you two years, and then the other two will kick in
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  once we know there's hockey.
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  Even if there's a partial lockout, we'll pick up the remaining two years and, accordingly,
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  we'll move along.
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  Well, we'll make an offer to you, which they did, subsequent to the lockout starting.
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  And, Columbus, which had approached me when the franchise started, said, we want you now.
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  And I said, no.
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  I'm not coming.
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  But when the lockout looked like it was a reality, they made me an offer I couldn't
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  refuse and went there.
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  And that first year, the lockout year, I basically worked in the office and went out.
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  We did a number of personal appearances.
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  We wanted to keep this young franchise out there in the public.
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  So we played ball hockey with kids all around the state of Ohio.
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  We made all kinds of presentations.
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  We were on television.
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  We were on radio.
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  And then when the season started my first, it was great.
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  And, again, I started in, in the NHL in Montreal, the Canadians.
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  I saw four straight Stanley Cups in the late seventies.
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  I went to Baltimore, Washington.
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  I did the Orioles and then, did the Capitals.
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  I actually lived halfway between the two cities, the Baltimore, Washington corridor.
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  If I did baseball, I went one way.
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  If I did hockey, I went to Washington.
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  Ended up with George Michael on the sports machine on weekends and worked at NBC.
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  And then, from there, got this terrific offer to go to Florida and start with the new
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  franchise there.
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  I'm the first broadcaster that first season to do both a partial schedule of the Florida
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  panthers and the Washington capitals.
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  They're two different teams in the same season.
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  There's a story in the book about both teams coming to me and said, okay.
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  The the, Panthers almost made the playoffs in the inaugural season, and they wanted me to do
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  their games.
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  Capitals wanted me to do their games, and they asked me, okay.
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  Who which games you're going to do?
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  Well, I held them at bay as long as I could.
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  Florida fell off.
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  They had the best record of inaugural team until Vegas came in the league, but I ended up
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  doing the capital games and all but three games for the Florida panthers during the regular
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  season, and that's when they offered me another long term four year contract to do not only
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  Florida panthers hockey, but I did arena football.
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  So it was, quite a move to Florida.
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  Loved every minute of it.
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  And, then when the the Blue Jackets came calling, went to Columbus for twenty years, and
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  I gotta say, best move I ever made.
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  Loved Columbus.
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  Reminded me a lot about Baltimore.
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  The Midwest people are the best.
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  You're a Midwestern guy.
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  You know what it's all about.
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  Columbus is the sleeper city in the entire country.
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  Great place to raise a family.
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  Great city.
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  Love the Blue Jackets, and I'm a Blue Jacket for life.
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  Really incredible.
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  And I think something, to point out here because you are already well established.
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  Right?
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  Being with the Canadians organization and then with the Capitals organization, Florida just
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  starting out knew that they needed someone that could be a trusted voice in that booth and no
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  different than Blue Jacket.
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  So elaborate on that a little bit of why it's so important for a new franchise to have that
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  kind of trusted voice in there and and to have that for a new franchise, especially to help
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  introduce new fans in a new city to a game that obviously you you've loved your entire life.
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  What a great point by you, Bubba.
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  And you know you know the point because you're not saying it, I will.
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  That's a very, very classic commentary.
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  And the reason why, you've got to establish roots in that community.
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  You've got to establish the team in that community.
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  And you make the point right here without giving the name.
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  The guy in Chicago, Eddie Olchuck, left the black hawks.
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  Bit of a contract dispute.
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  Eddie and I are really close friends.
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  Wasn't happy with the situation and then left for Seattle, the new franchise.
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  He's still there in Seattle in addition to doing the games for TNT.
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  You ought to talk about an established voice moving to a new hockey market.
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  They've had hockey in the past.
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  They had a minor league team for years.
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  Junior hockey's been there.
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  They've had a professional team way back when, and here they are in the National Hockey
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  League, a great franchise, a franchise that is growing.
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  They wanna have more of an impact this coming season.
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  I've talked to people out there, Eddie, and, they're trying to beef up the team to be a
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  little more competitive in the Western Conference.
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  But you're right.
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  You've gotta have those established people that can help bring the community together, make
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  them hockey fans if they're not, and for the educated hockey fans, give them a little bit
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  more.
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  And that's what Eddie does.
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  That's what I attempted to do when I first went to Columbus.
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  That's what I attempted to do when I first went to Florida.
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  I was fortunate enough in Washington.
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  The franchise was already established, and you wanna talk about the Montreal Canadiens.
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  They won four cups those years that I was there in the late seventies.
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  And I lived on the West Island, the predominantly English part of Montreal, and
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  most of the players were right there.
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  So we were together, whether it was on the ice, whether it was in the dressing room, or whether
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  it was, somewhere on the road, and, those were great years too.
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  Yeah.
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  You probably got another five books in you with all the stories you could tell.
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  Maybe a few.
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  The publisher's teasing another book already, but, I'm I'm happy with this one because it
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  should be going to print this week.
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  As I said, this book, it doesn't get any better than this, should be available on the
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  jeffrumor.com site, which will take you directly, to Amazon or go to Amazon.
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  And, the book should be out in September, and it's a great read.
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  And I think, as I said, it's very helpful to young people that are thinking in terms of
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  their career.
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  I knew very early what I wanted to do, and I'm sure a lot of people that are tuning in here
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  watching this podcast have some pretty good idea where they'd like to be too because I
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  can't tell you how many broadcasters, future broadcasters, podcasters, radio, television
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  people, and, journalists that I talk to and get tapes from that, I can help out.
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  Anybody I can help out, that's my job away from the sport.
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  I wanna give something back to the sports of hockey and, of course, the broadcasting as a
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  whole.
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  Not to mention baseball.
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  I love it, Jeff.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, obviously, you know my roots, being a a Northsider fan my entire life.
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  Love my Cubbies.
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  We've had some of the best.
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  I love the radio broadcast, and listening to the games, especially with baseball because
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  they can be, you know, well, a lot shorter now than they used to be, with with all the changes
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  that they've made.
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  But it it would be much better for me to sit and feel like you're, you know, watching with a
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  friend and having that described to you.
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  That that's very hard to do.
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  And and I don't think that it gets the respect necessarily that it deserves, but kind of
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  alluding to your point about Eddie O and and, you know, coming over to having a trusted voice
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  in that booth is is just an underrated piece of a new franchise.
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  And I think that as fans, we don't because you have to understand that not only is the city
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  you have existing hockey fans that are probably living there that probably grew up rooting for
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  another team.
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  So you can't if you wanna pull those people in, then you have to have someone that they are
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  aware of and that they can trust to know hockey.
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  It's it's a huge piece to that and no doubt why, you know, Columbus made you the offer that
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  you couldn't refuse all those years ago to bring you in.
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  I just love your point on that.
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  I don't wanna keep you too much longer, Jeff, but I really wanna talk about the process of
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  writing the book.
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  How much fun was it to take the trip down memory lane and to go over some of these old
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  calls and maybe reviewing the tape yourself and refreshing the memory in preparation for the
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  book.
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  Lot of work.
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  And, having retired here recently, it gave me a lot of time.
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  And, actually, everyone says, well, what's your hobby?
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  What are you doing now?
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  I put a lot of effort into this.
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  I have a great ghost writer who had written a book previously and and Craig Mers, and we
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  spent a lot of time on tapes, working out.
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  That's my dog there.
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  Hey.
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  Spending a lot of time on tapes and answering questions and doing some research and that kind
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  of thing, but it was a lot of fun.
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  A lot of it was right up here.
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  A lot of it was written down, and it brought back just great memories.
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  And I I'd I'd make some notes, and then in the middle of the night, I'd wake up.
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  I'd wake up and say, oh my.
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  I've got another story.
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  And I get up out of bed, start writing, finish maybe forty five minutes later, then hop back
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  into bed and get up the next morning and then rewrite what I'd written the night before.
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  So it was something.
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  I'll tell you a funny story.
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  As a 20 year old, while I was going to university in Calgary, Mount Royal University,
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  then it was called Mount Royal College, I got my own TV show on cable TV, the community
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  channel.
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  They had just started cable TV.
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  I'd come to Calgary for the first time.
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  And, you might be too young to remember, but Muhammad Ali you're still a young guy.
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  Muhammad Ali was stripped of the title, the greatest of all time, and and the reason why he
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  would not go to Vietnam.
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  Well, he came shortly before his, being reinstated or agreed and actually was there for
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  reinstatement to fight three round exhibitions.
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  And it was a major news conference.
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  There were cameras because he had just, you know, come back and and being reinstated.
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  He was the heavyweight champion of the world, top of his game when when, he was stripped to
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  the title.
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  So he came to Calgary.
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  So every US network, ABC, NBC, CBS was there.
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  All the Canadian networks were there.
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  And I was 20 years old, and I was gonna get the the heavyweight champion of the world to come
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  and do a half hour show with me.
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  Well, people laughed at me.
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  Now I went to the airport when he came, and I actually met him, introduced myself, shook
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  hands with him.
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  And I'll follow-up on that in a minute.
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  Fast forward to the press conference, and I go to Angelo Dundee, his longtime manager.
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  And, and, Angelo hang on one second here.
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  Sorry about that.
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  You're good, Jeff.
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  You and the champ.
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  Alright.
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  So I go to the press conference.
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  I talked to Ali, Ali's manager, Angelo Dundee, and I said, mister Dundee, I don't wanna talk
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  to the champ.
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  He says, no problem.
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  He says, wait for the one on ones and get your camera, and away we go.
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  And I said, no.
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  No.
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  I don't have a camera, but I got a studio up the road.
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  And, everybody starts chuckling.
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  These people say, oh, yeah.
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  The heavyweight champion of the world is gonna go to this studio.
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  I said, oh, it's not that far.
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  It's just up the hill here on MacLeod Trail.
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  Well, this is at the Stampede Ground, world famous Calgary Stampede.
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  So, fast forward, the press conference is over.
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  It does one on ones.
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  He's magnificent, comes over, taps, Dundee on the shoulder and says, okay, Angelo.
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  Time to go.
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  Ali looks around.
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  Dundee says, one second, champ.
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  This young man here wants to talk to you.
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  So he remembered me from, obviously, from the airport, but he kinda gives me the once over
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  again.
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  And he says, okay, kid.
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  Where's your camera?
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  And I said, sure.
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  I don't have a camera, but I got a studio up the road.
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  Everybody breaks out laughing.
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  He looks around, turns to the limo driver and says, do you know where the studio is?
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  He says, yeah.
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  The kid's right.
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  It's just a mile and a half up the road.
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  He tells me, go.
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  Take off.
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  I'll be up there with the entourage.
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  I race up to the studio.
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  Tell them to get it ready.
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  Nobody believes me.
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  The heavyweight champion of the world is now coming to this little cable TV station.
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  Somehow, word got around the three story building.
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  All the secretaries are in the lobby thinking maybe we'll get a glimpse of the heavyweight
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  champion of the world.
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  Okay?
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  In walks the general manager from lunch, and he says, what's all the commotion here?
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  Jeff Rimmer says, heavyweight champion of the world's coming.
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  Muhammad Ali, he starts laughing.
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  There's not a chance, and you know what?
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  So guess what?
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  Two seconds later, in walks Ali with the entourage.
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  We sit down.
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  We do twenty minutes.
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  He turns to the camera, he says, hey.
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  What did you say your name was, kid?
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  I said, Jeff Rimmer.
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  Goes to the camera, and he says, pointing, this young man here, Jeff Rimmer, has held his own
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  with me, Muhammad Ali.
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  And I predict in five years, after naming Johnny Carson, Jack Parr, Michael Douglas, and
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  everybody else, Jeff Rimmer will become the greatest forecaster in the world.
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  I said, thank you.
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  He said, in your dreams, got up and walked out.
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  Got up and walked out.
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  Incredible incredible way to end this interview, Jeff.
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  Looking forward to reading the book.
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  I encourage everyone else to find that.
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  Jeff Rimmer is r I m e r, jeff common spelling dot com.
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  You can find more about the book there.
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  It's been an absolute pleasure, strolling down memory lane with you, learning a bit more about
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  you, and, I I look forward to working in the future with you.
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  Congratulations on your recent retirement and getting this book out there finally.
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  I know it's gotta be an exciting time for you.
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  It is, Bubba.
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  Anytime you need anything, by all means, just reach out.
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  You know how to get me.
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  It's been a pleasure joining you, and I look forward to talking to you again real soon.
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  Thrilling.
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  That's Jeff Rimmer, everybody.
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  Thanks for being part of the scene, Jeff.
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  My pleasure.
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  Skunked golf.
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  Look good even if your game stinks.