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Hello and welcome to another episode of Anime Club.
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As as usual, my name is Chris and I'm joined today by Phoebe
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and kind of a a regular now it's Lee from Straw Chat and top
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Grubs. You're right, it's.
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A pleasure to be back. Yes, I'm I'm look kind of loving
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introducing it into new anime as well.
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I know. I'm a lot more of an expert than
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I was last time I was on. I mean, experts pushing it, but
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I think I've seen about five more enemies since the last
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anime club I was on. Since the last time you came on
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where you'd seen 2. Yeah, Dragon Ball, the One Piece
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for life. And JoJo, actually you had seen
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last time. You came out.
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It is weird because we did have we did just like a list of anabe
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for you to add to a list. All of them that you've watched
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so far been hentai. Well, do you know what the only?
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One Bible black. The only one that was anywhere
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close to that was 1 you recommended, which was that Dan
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that Dan that's. Different.
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That's good. And like Biebs recommended stuff
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like attack on Titan, which was I mean fair enough there is
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naked giants like flopping about and stuff like that.
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But then I'll stuck down to that ongoing or Chris like put the
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bigs this up and like 5 minutes in turbo granny shows up like.
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The difference? Between Chris.
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Chris is recommending you his favorite anime, whereas I'm
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recommending you anime that I think you will like.
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Yeah. Yeah, you're watching Naruto.
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Yeah. I know you did recommend Naruto
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and it is amazing. I love it.
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It's it's proper turn in the tables as well, because when I
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talk to you about one piece, you always give us our face where
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kind of tell you anything and you've been asking about Naruto
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and I've been like kind of say a thing.
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Spoil it, I don't think it's horrible.
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Your your your favorite character so far is Sasuke.
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Sasuke. Yeah, you've destroyed us this
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afternoon with that, where I'm like, oh, Saskia is mint.
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Like I love him. And you're like, yeah.
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He's great. He's greatly you've.
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You've picked a good horse to back, don't worry.
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Yeah, it will never backfire on you.
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We're going with the emo one. Never go.
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You'll never go on that one. You know what, even Vegeta was
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evil for a while. So if Saskia turned bad, that's
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still fine by me. He's still my boy.
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I. Think you'll like it?
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I think you'll like his story. Anyway, so.
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That's not why we're here today. Yeah, this week we're going to
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talk about a new Animate Old Way.
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It's still getting released at the minute and it's called Gachi
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Akuta. I sound not sure about that
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because I'm not Gachi Akuta. It is Gachi Akuta.
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Yeah, well. Haven't been able to pronounce
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it all like for the past two weeks when we've been planted
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like it's been like, oh, have you watched any more of Gatchi
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Zuza and stuff? Until about 5-5 minutes ago
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where I YouTube how to pronounce it.
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And then was like, right, this is it.
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I had a proper moral panic about it this morning because I've
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been calling it a gatchi Kuza. And then I was like, no, that's
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not AZ, that's AT what the fuck? It does look like AZ or AT the
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the logo and then you look at the graffiti underneath for that
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way it's AT got you a computer, sorry.
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Which means legitimate trash. Lee looked it up because he's an
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actual podcaster. Professional.
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Oh, podcaster. Yeah.
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Yeah, we didn't look at it. No, no, we probably would have
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just made it up. Yeah, actually means Whitehead
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did. You guys get snacks?
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Well, I was going to go into that.
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I thought because if the enemy that we're doing this week, they
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channel their powers through a special item that they hold dear
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to them. So I thought, why not show up
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with our own item? What they're called again?
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Vital Instruments. Vital instruments or why don't
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we show off what we would class, what we think would be our vital
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instrument? So, Lee, do you want to go first
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for you being the guest? See mine, I was going to say
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it's like how the size of mine, but you'll just clip that and
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have me seeing stuff about things being little.
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So anyway, I didn't know we were doing this until 5 minutes
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before we started recording. And you're like, oh, find
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something important here and I'm like rummaging me shelves and
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I've got this, which was me. You taught us this how to do it.
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I mean you cannot really say it very well, but it is a Rolls
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Royce pin badge which I got from me Grande and I think I think
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you got that for 25 years service at Rolls Royce.
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Nice. Who knew that I would be have a
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connection to something so elegant?
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So elegant and fancy. He's a fancy boy.
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He's. A Rolls Royce so.
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What about you Phoebes? Got a ruler and I OK, so I've
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had this ruler since I was a kid, right?
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It is, it sits next to my desk. Are you?
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I reach for it with alarming frequency, frequency.
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And also I was looking through it because I do attach a lot of
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sentimental value to objects. So there are a lot of things I
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could have picked as a vital instrument as a low key hoarder
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and materialistic girl living in a material world.
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But I thought this is one that I could actually probably like
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whip a monster with because it just feels good in the hand.
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Can I just use, can I just use my powers of deduction here and
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just say that? Peeps, you must have been a
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right little nerd in school, right?
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Because I don't. Think.
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I don't think that's exercising any power.
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You have met me. Well, it's just the fact that
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you're going, oh, I've had this ruler since I was a child, which
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means you actually paid attention in school instead of
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holding the ruler off the side of the table going and I.
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Also used this like but. You didn't snap it.
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Would you slap my leg? No, I didn't snap it.
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Why would I snap it? I've got.
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I know the limits my. That always happened with
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rulers. Like the plastic rulers.
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You would twang it and then make it move further up so the
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vibration gets a higher pitched note until it goes by and you
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push it up too hard and it goes Duke and the whole ruler just
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shatters. Or it is.
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You don't understand the tensile strength of your of your
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equipment mate. I can't believe you would say
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that on National Men's Day. If, if there's any day where I
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can talk about Lee's equipment, today is the day.
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Oh, oh, what have you got as your tool?
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So I've got a nice little case here which contains one of my
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most prized lighters. It's my little win lighter.
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I don't, I don't know why it's sentimental, Lewis.
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I just really like it. It's got a good blame, the good
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damn good feel in your hand and if anyone nicked it I would do
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horrible things though. You would corner a child in an
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alley and try to beat them up until they attacked you with a
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poo plunger. Poo plunger.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
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You, you forced me to cough their mind.
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That's so weird. Just when you did, held it up
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and you did. You.
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Put your like throat. I must have had a cough there
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and it went and it made me cough.
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Oh my God, are you guys thinking up?
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Yeah. Oh dammit, Chris, you haven't
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flipped me camera. It's the wrong way round.
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Like to shake it up a bit. So we've, so we've watched
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nearly all of the Gotcha Kuza series now, haven't we?
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Haven't just watched all three episodes?
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The first 3 episodes, no. Of course, I've only watched the
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first 3 episodes. I've watched them today.
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Well, I mean, two hours ago I finished watching them.
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I mean, I'm just glad that someone should commit because
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Lee probably watched about 5, didn't you?
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Yeah, I watched 5 episodes. Yeah, yeah.
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So you'll where are you up to? No, I don't spoil off for food.
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I want to choke it. But let's spoil it because I
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actually really enjoyed this and I do want to keep watching it.
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I know sort of that this this was.
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A complete I'm only up to where he meets his dad.
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Oh yes, do. You know what?
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That hasn't happened that that hasn't happened.
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That's not till the 6th episode man.
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Oh, but yeah, this is a complete punt in the dark because I saw
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this when I logged into Crunchyroll and I was like, ah,
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quite like the poster that what it looks like.
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So I tried it. I was watching this to be spare
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time and I thought, oh, well, that's quite an easy episode.
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If I do something I'm already watching.
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So I'll just suggest that. But what were what were your
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guys first impression? First episode?
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I really liked it. I really loved the animation
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style. I think I messaged you and I was
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like, this reminds me of the gorillas like the like it's kind
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of got sharp. It like, if I say that this is
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an anime that has sharp edges and like, very extreme camera
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angles, I know it's they're not actual cameras, but the angles
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they choose to go in, particularly on faces and really
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like, it kind of really distorts facial features and makes it
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incredibly expressive. And then you were like, oh,
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yeah. It's because they had a graffiti
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artist consulting on the show, which makes perfect sense
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because not only is there loads of amazing graffiti in the
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backgrounds, but it does feel like, it does feel like a bit of
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street art, the way that the characters are designed.
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I think it's really cool. And it's got big monsters.
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Yeah. I love it.
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I'm so into it. Yeah.
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So that was my initial impression was like, oh, it
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feels good. What about you, Lee?
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Well, obviously everything Phoebe said, all of the
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animation style is amazing, but I'll expand on it as well and go
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towards the story also. So the first episode, a lot of,
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well, not just anime, but a lot of shows, they'll always start
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and they'll have just so much law through that year and it'll
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be like, oh, this is the world and these are the people in it.
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And this has been happening and it just convoluted so much, but
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this just shows it. Is it called Rudo?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah, it just has Rudo collecting some trash and then
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he goes back and he's cleaning his trash and it shows.
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You like the kind of modern at the hierarchy society, like the
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upper class and then the lower class and just gives you an idea
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of what kind of world he lives in without throwing in a million
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characters that you have to remember.
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And then even the ones where it does introduce them, it's like
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these aren't going to be important because he's going to
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get thrown in the pit. So here's somebody that he lived
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with, and here's a girl that he's got a crush on, and within
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about two minutes, you're just straight past that.
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And it's like, throw the trash in the pit or something.
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Like out of the shop, Yeah. In the pit.
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Trash in the pit. So it just gets straight to the
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point and hooks you're in to go like, Oh my God, like this is
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intense and what's happening and it easy, easy into it really
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well. So you like the you like the
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piercing then? I think he's going to say
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Twilight easing in very well. No, no, because.
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Don't lower yourself on International Wednesday such
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Audrey comments. Yeah, and the the piercing is
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really it's perfect. It's it doesn't go too fast.
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It doesn't go too slow. Also the episode 2323 minutes
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each, which I'm a huge fan of because that's the kind of anime
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you can squeeze into your life in a very easy manner.
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Yeah, yeah, especially, especially 5 minutes before
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podcast about it. And also it was.
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At least it was at least an hour before a podcast because I had
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to watch 3 episodes. And a 23 minute episode.
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It is about 20 minutes of episode as well.
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Yeah, compared to a lot of other enemies where it looked like
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previously on Attack on Titan. Yeah.
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Yeah, 10 minutes of thing and then a 5 minute outro and you've
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watched a 7 minute episode. Right, it's quite.
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Nice. Like I've I've said to you in
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the past, that is why I do not like Attack on Titan.
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I think it's got a good story, but I just don't like the
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episode structure. It is 10 minutes of recap, 5
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minutes of story, and then another 10 minutes of what's
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happening next time on Attack on Titan.
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And I saw that. I am understating this.
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It's probably less story. So then what?
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One day I've got where I was catching up because I was
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watching like four or five episodes in a row and I was
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like, one thing's happened in this, Tata Paddy threw it away,
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never watching this again. And that's why I've never
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watched Attack on Titan again. I watched the first series and
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no sorry, a bit of the second series and that's it.
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But you could speed it up and just watch episode 5 and see the
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recap and then skip to episode 10 and watch the recap and then
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episode 15 and watch the recap and you'd get the full story.
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Exactly. I can't believe you have that
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criticism about Attack on Titan, but you are currently watching
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One Piece where a character sleeps for five full straight
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episodes. Yeah, but at least it doesn't
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say. Next time on One Piece, this
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character will. Sleep Luffy's still asleep.
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Main character still out for the count.
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Why could he ate too much? It's not even asleep for a good
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reason. He just didn't.
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He's just, he's just relatable. Everyone's had a meet nap to.
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Be fair, that is quite relatable.
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Actually, actually, so I did do the first impressions.
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Should we go into the story of what it's actually about?
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I know we'll just go into the first 3 episodes, so it'll be
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very vague concept. So you've mentioned rude or
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lives at a place called was it the the sphere?
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The sphere, Yeah. And which is a floating city
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above in the sky. And they've got an upper class
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and a lower class. And the criminals in the lower
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class get launched off as a sort of like execution style where
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that's where they go. And all the while, you see the
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city of the sphere throwing trash bags and everything out
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down below into a big pit that they call it.
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And the pit and so sorry, Rudeau gets framed for the murder of
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his adopted dad. Caregiver guardian who?
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Yes, I can't remember his name now, it's like Ruto.
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Or some ragto, yeah. Ragto, yeah, and he was kind of
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important because Rudo's got some dodgy hands.
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So to to remedy that in this dirty place that they live, he
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just gives them a pair of gloves.
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And yeah, so he gets chucked off because he's framed the murder
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and he ends up at the ground, the bottom of the pit.
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And then you realize. I was really sad that like just
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you see, brutally seemed very upset.
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He was, he was very down in the dumps.
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I could see it coming and I couldn't couldn't look away.
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Like a car crash. I've been waiting all episode to
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do that. 17 minutes I've had that prepared.
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That's a lot. You've been waiting for days to
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say that you thought of that. You just see Lee underneath,
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just crossing off one of his puns off his pun paper.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't wait to hear all the
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trash buns. He doesn't off talk rubbish this
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guy. Damn it, after get rid of that
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one now it's not enough after talking delete.
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Oh yeah. So Rudo goes down to this, this
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garbage filled pit and he's attacked by some trash beasts,
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which it doesn't really explained at the time, but he's
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in like a really toxic environment where he kind of
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breathe, He's slowly dying from toxic inhalation from all the
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shite. And a mysterious masked man
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saves him. Then you find out he's called
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Engine, which is a cool name, and he is a, he's a, he's a
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giver, which I thought was a wild name for a for a for.
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A Well, you said one of the questions you messaged me before
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we went on was do you think you'd be a giver?
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And I was like, excuse me, I don't think you could ask that
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kind of question. Well lady, I didn't realize, but
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this was what, halfway through your first episode?
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So you had no idea any of this? No, I do.
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Literally. I thought you were being
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incredibly overly familiar. I didn't even realize that you
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hadn't. I didn't realise you hadn't seen
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any of this until recently. Fibs and.
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Literally today. I actually got a bit worried
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because I think last week we're talking in our DMS and you
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mentioned like someone that you've been hanging around with.
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And then I started quoting this show saying throw the trash in
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the pit just to say just. I thought you were.
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Just saying that I was trash like.
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I was just saying like. The kind of thing you message me
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on the regular. I was just saying that like as a
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reference so Chris knows that I was watching Gachi Yakuta but
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then I looked at the previous messages and was like oh I hope
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like previous isn't thinking I'm talking about her.
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Oh, I see the messages. I don't know whether to be.
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And she was like, Can you believe Lee?
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What's? Oh my God he's so rude.
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I mean normally he keeps the trash talk to like our private
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chat. The fact that he would do it in
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front of other people is really offensive.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, it's fine.
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I assumed, to be fair, I assumed it was to do with that because
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you had been talking about it and I kind of just tuned out
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because I was like, I'll watch it and I don't want spoilers.
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So that's fine. Don't worry Leah, I wasn't
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paying attention. No one pays attention to it.
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I'd slow that link go a little bit.
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Yeah. Yeah, you're going to really let
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lease doing it. Oh, don't.
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He's so sweet. Leave, Leave and be.
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Oh, Oh yeah, engine. Oh yeah.
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So so engines a giver, they basically go around defeating
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these trash monsters and making it safe for the civilization
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down below. So yeah, that is the basic story
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of Gotcha Kuza without spoilers. So what were your initial
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expectations going in? Like, you know nothing from
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looking at us, but from the first episode you'd get this
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site and that's just changes after that.
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Yeah, so I was, oh, sorry, carry on.
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I was really glad in episode 1 where they were chanting throw
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the trash in the pit because I up until then I thought Lee was
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being really rude to me. But also I thought it I really
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like. So it's it's set up very early
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on this idea of like a divided society where you've got people
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who have and people who have nothing.
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And that the laws are all geared towards like keeping this kind
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of very shiny behind the wall part of the city, all shiny and
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nice and every with everything outside of that, whether you're
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on the sphere in the tribal area of the city or whether you're on
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the ground, which is what the world in the pit is called.
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Yeah, is shit, but also the other thing that I thought going
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into it was that I was like, oh, well, obviously you want to get
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back to the sphere, but after episode 3 I'm like, why the fuck
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would you want to go back to the sphere?
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Apart from like the toxic waste and the monsters, this the city
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on the ground is so much more fun.
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Yeah, do you know what genuinely what his motivation is to get up
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top again? Kill again to kill revenge.
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Yeah. He just wants to slap my boat a
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bit. He needs to give that she were a
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slap. Oh the she the little.
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What a bitch. She turned on, she turned on
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zero evidence, someone who she was previously previously
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willing to stand up for and ignore everything that they were
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saying. And then suddenly she's like,
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how could you? I thought you were different.
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And it's like he is clearly different.
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Well, she got a teddy, got a teddy out of it.
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She just. The Teddy.
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Discards it, so she's no better than the rest of them.
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Yeah, smudgy teddies. Yeah, look after your stuff,
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people. Yeah, because there's a big
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thing kind of like a when you when you look after an object in
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this in the anime, you kind of like you kind of give it life.
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It inhabits a soul. And some people can draw power
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through or use it to channel their power, which is their
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their objects, like with lighter or Rolls Royce pin or ruler.
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And so I forgot where I was going with that, with that
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conversation as soon as I soon as I said ruler.
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Well, that's part of what you learn in episode 2 is that you
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have like, so you have to get so he gets like chased by monsters.
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He then encounters some people who I think are going to kidnap
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him and enslave him. But he also meets this character
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called Engine, who's one of the cleaners who are like charged
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with taking down the monsters. And this is where I fell in love
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with this anime. I love a special attack that has
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a name that the character says the name as they're attacking In
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anime, there is no better way to like, like have like a final
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boss killing moment if you're not going to scream if.
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But he doesn't even scream it. He just kind of whispers it into
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the umbrella and then bam. And I was like, OK, this anime
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has everything I'm hooked up in. It's also that's.
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The point we thought, give me the comma mail wave.
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Give me your special attack names.
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I'm in bank eye. Yeah, give me your bank eye.
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Give me your. What's it with in Naruto with
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the eyes. Give me the sexy nojutsu.
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I want to know the names of your attacks.
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Is that is that the thing you thought was with the eyes?
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Sexy nojutsu. No, the thing with the eyes is
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the thing I can't remember. Biaq again.
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Or is that? Yeah.
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Too fair. When I was talking to a lady the
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other day about it, I called it Rezengen, was it?
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That's all right. I was calling it Shinigami, but
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that's the God of death, isn't it?
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That is the God of death, yeah. Yeah.
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So, yeah, so you have the cleaners who come in and they
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realise very quickly that your man who's been thrown in the pit
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is has the is a natural. He can make anything into a
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vital instrument while he's fighting, which makes him
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incredibly impact powerful in this world where there's just
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trash everywhere, including at one point a poop covered
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plunger. And then when I saw that, I was
26:20
like, no, This is why Chris loves this anime, because it's
26:24
got poop jokes. Who doesn't love a poop joke?
26:30
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
26:36
So it is quite funny. It doesn't.
26:38
It's it's funny. It's brightly coloured.
26:40
It's got a cool art style and it's got some very, very cool
26:45
anime trape style fights, which I'm so here for.
26:48
Love it. Yeah, I don't know how much of
26:50
the The World at the Bottom that you saw with you only watching 3
26:55
episodes, but what did you think of it?
26:58
I like so far I've seen the trash heap, the weird little gas
27:03
station where those people try to capture Rudo and are like
27:07
talking about like selling his body parts because he's from the
27:11
sphere and apparently people want to like we'll pay big money
27:14
for stuff from the sphere. And they make him eat that stuff
27:17
and. They eat all The Dirty trash.
27:20
It was here. Did you see what it was?
27:22
I think was there bins on bins on toast?
27:27
And it needs to stop. We need to stop talking about
27:28
that and move past it. And then I fell in love with
27:33
that, where he bites the guy's fingers and it was like, oh,
27:36
good. It's not just family friendly.
27:38
Brutal. Yeah.
27:39
Yeah. Brutal and then I saw the city
27:44
that where he waits to meet the his new trainer and then
27:47
accidentally bumps into him in an alley.
27:49
There's also a sassy anime that steals.
27:51
There's also a sassy anime cat that steals his money which I
27:55
like. When I saw that, I was like, oh,
27:57
this anime has everything. It's also got thieving cats.
28:02
Yeah. Yeah, there is so much more as
28:07
well because it expands a lot of later episodes, but they will
28:11
have seen that more than you. So what did you think as well?
28:18
I mean, I can't go into the bits for the further episodes.
28:21
I don't worry, I'll. I'll just tune you out.
28:25
In general, I wouldn't say specifics.
28:28
In general, I'm loving that. Just all of it's still in the
28:33
set up phase, isn't it? So I feel like this is a story
28:38
of revenge at the moment and it's going to be a case of Rudol
28:43
trying to get back to the upper world to get revenge on the
28:47
people up there. But I'm thinking that there's
28:51
going to be there's going to be some kind of conspiracy thing
28:54
going on. They can't just go, they can't
28:58
make the way to the up of the world, to the upper world, back
29:01
to the sphere and have these powers where Rude was going to
29:05
be amazing with them by that point and just wreck everyone.
29:09
So I reckon the government or whatever is going to have powers
29:12
as well. And there's going to be some
29:14
kind of like upper class magic society thing or something going
29:21
on. And I also reckon they framed
29:23
his dad because we haven't mentioned that his dad got sent
29:27
to the pit for murder, murdering those people.
29:30
He's he's like adopted dad Carrie is carrying a book around
29:36
and he's like making notes in like the fancy part of town at
29:40
the beginning. And when he gets murdered, the
29:43
murderer, the only thing he takes from the father is that
29:46
book. So what's in that book that's
29:49
got to be had? That's got to have something to
29:51
do with this whole thing because like, his last words to his son
29:55
are like, run and like, turn this world on.
29:57
It's like, turn it's this world upside down and make them pay.
30:02
Like, what does that mean? That's such ominous last words.
30:08
Yeah. But there has to be some sort of
30:10
bigger, bigger story to like waiting in the shadows at the
30:14
moment. I'm I'm a little bit further
30:17
ahead than used to and there's no apparent big bad yet.
30:23
So there is stuff that's happening and obviously they're
30:27
still trying to get back to the top with them, with the cleaners
30:31
and they've went with them, but there's no like I've got to face
30:36
this opponent. It's kind of like it's still at
30:38
the mystery stage. You find out something special
30:41
about these gloves because it's got a symbol on it and we don't
30:47
know what that means at the minute, but yeah, it is very
30:50
much is still finding out speech.
30:52
Where am I? I think I'm up to episode 11 of
30:55
about 12. Yeah.
30:58
But yeah, I can't really see anything spoiler on but.
31:02
Loving mysteries being in these things as well.
31:04
Like I feel like every anime to be good has to have a good
31:08
mystery like all out all out experienced before this was the
31:12
biggest mystery was and Dragon Ball was like who is this
31:16
mischievous young man? And it's like 1 episode later,
31:19
Oh I'm Vegeta's son was like oh. Hi, my name is Trunks and I've
31:25
come back from the future. Let me tell you my whole life
31:27
story exactly. I don't know because you have
31:32
you have watched One Piece, it's mysteries and that well.
31:36
I have now, but like I've only started One Piece maybe two
31:39
years ago I think, but for like the 15 years before that.
31:43
Or hang on, when did Dragon Ball come out?
31:45
Like 1997 or something. But all of that time up until I
31:49
started One Piece, that was the only anime I'd seen and it's
31:52
just flashy lights and screaming.
31:56
I mean when it aired in the UKI. Mean.
32:00
Yeah, Yeah. So you've just said what you
32:02
think could happen. Do you have any theories,
32:05
Phoebe? So I think so.
32:08
I think at the moment it's a story of revenge.
32:10
I think that's a really nice way to describe Italy, that at the
32:13
moment this is this is where he's at in his journey.
32:16
I think it's going to become a story of injustice because that
32:20
theme is so heavy in it in the first episode.
32:24
And then it kind of becomes a story of survival very quickly.
32:28
So they kind of drop the injustice bit and it's then just
32:31
about him, like trying to figure shit out and stay alive.
32:36
But I have a feeling there's going to be some sort of great
32:39
kind of societal tool of a system of oppression or
32:44
something. Yeah, it's going to get
32:45
political, isn't it? It's.
32:47
Going to get political. It can't not.
32:49
It's like a tack on anything. Any time there's a city with
32:51
walls and classism, it's going to get political, even if there
32:57
are giant monsters flopping about.
33:00
To be fair, it does hit us. Yeah, and I don't think that's
33:06
particularly obvious. I want to find out what the deal
33:08
is with that book. I want to know.
33:10
And I think there is some secret in that book.
33:12
I also think that whoever is the masked character who kills his
33:18
adopted father, I think by episode 10 we will have met that
33:22
character without their mask. So that's my theory, is that we
33:27
will meet that character again without the mask and not know
33:30
it's them really early on. And I think one of the reasons
33:36
is because when Engine comes in, he has like that very
33:39
distinctive mask that he's wearing while he's hunting the
33:43
beasts. And I think that whoever that
33:45
character is, they are a cleaner of some sort.
33:49
I think there's something at play there.
33:51
I feel like it'll be someone important as well.
33:54
Like it'll take his mask off and it's going to look like him and
33:57
he's like, no rudo, I am your brother, like, and he's like
34:02
stealing his dad's book back or something like that.
34:05
Yeah, because they don't kill him.
34:07
I don't think they went in deliberately to kill him.
34:10
So I think there's something there about that masked, that
34:13
masked killer is going to be more complex in terms of
34:17
motivation than simply this is bad guy.
34:21
And I think it will, cause I'm hoping Rudo will have some kind
34:25
of like some sort of moral crisis about revenge.
34:33
That's what I'm hoping for, where he has to choose between
34:36
the greater good and his personal vengeance.
34:40
I'm kind of hoping he just thinks I'm just going to give up
34:43
with a sphere above because it's a bit shit, isn't it?
34:46
I'm just sphere that seems The sphere seems really crap,
34:49
especially if you're a tribes person who are the people who
34:52
live outside of the big shiny bit?
34:54
Why would you want to go back? It seems like he he was not
34:57
particularly well liked. He got bullied all the time.
35:02
Yeah, you have to have him going back there.
35:04
This it's like that's the goal. It's like imagine watching One
35:07
Piece and Luffy like in episode 50 went do you know what?
35:11
I really like the Baratia restaurant and working for Zef.
35:14
I'm going to stay here and work in this board for the rest of my
35:17
life. Forget the One Piece.
35:20
It's almost like Can you imagine Luffy being 1000 episodes in and
35:23
having not found the One Piece? Like how long can you sustain
35:30
that for? TV on International Men's Day as
35:34
well. I wear.
35:39
Sorry for some for some reason Luffy has made me angry today
35:42
but I actually do enjoy one because I just would like to say
35:45
that but I've come for him twice now.
35:49
Yeah, we have always said famously that you prefer
35:52
narrative One Piece as well. I do.
35:55
I actually do stand by that. You said you'd win a fight and
35:59
everything, wouldn't it? Did you say that Naruto would
36:03
win in a fight? Yeah, he's got a literal demon
36:06
inside of him. Yeah, you know, I feel like
36:09
Naruto probably could beat Luffy, but Luffy will get
36:11
stronger, so maybe he's later. Could be, I don't know.
36:16
Who do we think that is the most powerful?
36:18
Well actually here's the better one.
36:20
Do you think Rudo could be Naruto and Luffy in a fight?
36:25
Nah, definitely not at the minute.
36:28
He's he's got, he's got some glowy gloves.
36:31
You can turn a keyboard in the word rocket or something.
36:35
He seems like he can take a punch.
36:37
Some of the fights he gets knocked about, it's brutal.
36:41
Yeah, it, it is. It's not gory, this, but like
36:45
any normal human would be dead 10 times over.
36:50
Yeah. There's something going on.
36:51
Here, yeah, but then again so does everyone else that he's not
36:57
special in that regard. I think a lot of them can take
37:00
punches. So you're saying that you
37:03
wouldn't you wouldn't want to live on the sphere give.
37:07
Me, give me the fun Ground City. I'm I'd much rather live in the
37:11
ground city at the moment. So what we haven't mentioned
37:15
that much is the the trash beasts as they call them, or the
37:19
the rubbish monsters or whatever, which is it's like bad
37:25
and isn't it just like a vital object that has like a bad
37:29
energy in it and the tracks trash.
37:32
Yeah. And they've got some kind of
37:33
core in them, yeah. Which?
37:36
Is like so the. Core is that that's all we
37:37
should be in hell. Yeah.
37:39
So in, in the, in the building of this, like in this world law,
37:45
you have anima, which is the energy which is in like given
37:48
out from humans into the universe and can imbue.
37:53
And it's the same thing that imbues vital instruments with
37:56
power. Anima can also like in the form
37:59
of like emotion, imbue other objects.
38:03
So what's happening in the trash, trash heap?
38:05
It's all the negative emotion that's being kind of thrown away
38:08
by the sphere is also kind of turning the the very air toxic
38:15
and the anima itself is becoming corrupted and that's creating
38:18
these huge beasts. And it's very much like if
38:21
you've seen Spirited Away Studio Ghibli with the no face when he
38:28
comes in like as the polluted river spirit into the bath
38:31
house. It gives me that kind of energy
38:34
of like this is like the pollution of humanity.
38:41
In physical. Form.
38:43
Chris It isn't until episode 5 that we start finding out a bit
38:46
more about the core things and stuff like that.
38:52
So so. I was just thinking as you said.
38:54
I'm trying not to get into it too much.
38:56
Oh. It's hard.
38:58
There's a Phoebe. He's only.
38:59
Episode 3. That's my take on it.
39:03
Well, yes, so you was. So you would rather live in the
39:06
lower world, in the pits with all of these giants like trash
39:12
Godzilla things chasing after you?
39:14
Yeah, yeah, 100% what? Rather than have to like either
39:19
live with all of those stuff up stuck up people in the shiny
39:22
White City or spend your life being like in the shitty what
39:29
like shantytown outside of the shiny White City.
39:34
I think I'd rather be in the city where you can make your.
39:36
Own way people are cooler lower down but.
39:39
Yeah. It's definitely safe at the top.
39:42
The the cities are relatively safe thanks to the cleaners
39:45
right? The air is isn't polluted in the
39:47
cities. You can move around.
39:49
They have better food by far. Burgers.
39:52
For for context, Phoebe at the minute is actually in The West
39:56
Wing of her house and she is in the equivalent of the sphere
40:00
compared to us, so that's that's why Lee's confused.
40:09
All right, Mr. I have a spare bedroom.
40:14
Don't think that you're don't think.
40:17
Don't think that you'll have. Oh look at you with Christmas
40:19
decoration, don't think that your happy go lucky accent masks
40:27
the truth of your financial status of having a spare
40:30
bedroom. That's.
40:32
That's luxury mate. Right.
40:42
So do you think you'll watch on? Do you think you'll do you think
40:47
you'll keep up with the series? Because I've, I've seen people
40:52
talking about this as if people who've read the manga and have
40:56
been looking forward to that animal release for a long time
40:58
saying, Oh yeah, this could be the next big shorn like a like a
41:03
Naruto or something else. Could you see it being something
41:06
like that? At the moment, I don't think
41:11
it's got enough lightheartedness to like.
41:13
So at the moment, I think it's too dark to be able to sustain
41:18
this level of intensity because at some point you get like drama
41:22
fatigue. So if in the next couple of
41:24
episodes we have some really like, basically, I need more
41:27
poop jokes. I need more moments like that to
41:33
offset some of the drama. And then yes, I could see this
41:37
becoming like a very big series that could go a long distance
41:40
because it would have that kind of emotional highs and lows.
41:47
Yeah, yeah, I get that. I mean, there is those things I
41:53
would say, but what do you think, Lee?
41:57
I kind of go into it. I don't want to.
42:01
The ass I would say it could have been a big show and become
42:07
one of the next big like shown in sort of like TV anime is, but
42:13
I don't think it's got the right name that I think that's its
42:16
only problem. So right, all of like because to
42:20
hit all the western audiences and for to get big over here,
42:23
you have things like Dragon Ball, one piece, Naruto, and
42:27
it's all of these easy things to pronounce.
42:29
But if yeah, but if kids are going into school and being
42:32
like, oh, obviously Jinpu Karatara and people are like
42:36
what the hell is that? And then like, and if it's got
42:40
like a like proper long Japanese name, like I'm, I'm really, I
42:44
keep like blabbing on about Kaguru Bachi.
42:47
But even that's like, it's just, it's just a word that's to us
42:52
Westerners, does not mean anything.
42:55
Interesting. I don't know.
42:57
Because Naruto doesn't really mean anything to.
43:00
I know, but it's it's short and sweet as well and it's like the
43:03
kids name Naruto. So it's, I think it still works,
43:08
but I think Gachi Acuta where we couldn't even pronounce it until
43:13
5 minutes before this episode. How are we meant to recommend
43:16
that to anyone? That is on us.
43:20
That's exactly I think we could be better.
43:24
But the book itself is amazing. I do hear what you're saying
43:28
about the name. I do think that you could easily
43:30
shorten it and then it becomes very catchy.
43:32
Have you seen Gachi? For example, Yeah.
43:36
And you couldn't translate this because like, oh, have you
43:39
watched literal garbage? Legitimate God.
43:43
Legitimate garbage, Yeah. I don't know, have you watched
43:46
legal trash? Have you seen that time I was
43:50
reincarnated as a vending machine?
43:53
Oh, but but that isn't that is? To be fair, that's a sleeper hit
43:58
of an anime. Yeah.
44:00
I've just used. That as a point, I even think
44:03
that works because it just sounds so mental that people are
44:05
going to be like, I have to see what this is.
44:09
That's that's, that's not really why we picked up a point.
44:13
Yeah. I would never watch it with a
44:16
title, but yeah, I was a bit worried about because I don't
44:22
know, I was kind of hoping this would be bad just so I didn't
44:25
have to say gotcha, gotcha. CUDA a lot.
44:30
But now you're going to have to be like every year, you're going
44:32
to be like, have you seen the new series of Gachi Akuta?
44:35
I think once you get used to it, it's fine.
44:38
Yeah, but it does take or does take a moment.
44:40
Evangelion. I think that's a simple one,
44:47
like a simple name. Also I don't think that's it's
44:52
an all right OK hot take. I think Evangelion is an all
44:55
right anime. I think it's.
44:59
I think it's. Yeah, agreed.
45:03
So we'll never do it because of the hospital ceiling as well.
45:07
Yeah, it fails our one test. Yeah, or M.
45:13
But no, I think this will be good.
45:14
I think it'll be good, and I think it's got characters you
45:16
can really root behind. I also think there's going to be
45:19
so much fam art of all the different cleaners kissing each
45:22
other. There's going to be like fanfic
45:24
galore. I think it like, and that I do
45:27
think is a really important for series longevity is can the fan
45:34
base get behind it and create their own porn?
45:37
That's that's that keeps this show going.
45:40
Do you know, as I'm getting into it, what a kind of reminds me of
45:43
Bleach is in where the cleaners, they have different divisions as
45:48
well. And every one of them.
45:50
Do you know the the main rule in an anime where you've got to
45:53
tell who the character is from their silhouette?
45:56
You can with every single character, all very unique.
46:00
They have stay in power and I think it's got that going for
46:04
it. But do you think this reminds
46:06
you of any, any other anime like you could compare it to for
46:09
someone who's, if you're recommending this to someone,
46:12
you'd say, Oh yeah, it's a mix between this and this or?
46:16
I would actually say it's a mix between Jiu Jitsu Kaizen and
46:22
Demon Slayer. I think those are other two
46:25
anime where this this sits in the kind of middle.
46:27
It doesn't have the weird bondage sister undertones that
46:30
Demon Slayer has which make it sometimes an uncomfortable
46:34
watch, and it is less. The plot is less convoluted than
46:40
Jiu jitsu Kaizen. More slaughtered.
46:43
Oh yeah. You watch that as well.
46:47
I forgot. What?
46:47
Yeah. But yeah, I think it's like a
46:54
better version of both of those animes, and I quite like both of
46:57
those animes. It's not like a diss on either
46:59
of them. What's that?
47:03
I think if you like those, you'll love this.
47:06
Yeah, Yeah, I do think it's also good.
47:08
Like Bleach is a good, great comparison for it because you're
47:11
right, it does have like, like you have the captains and the
47:13
deputies in Bleach. I think you'll have like
47:16
division team leaders in this. They're going to be really
47:21
missing the mark if they don't meet like the person in charge
47:25
of the whole cleaner army and he's called General Waste.
47:34
That is absolutely amazingly. You can cross that one off your
47:39
list. That one, that one hit the mark.
47:42
I'm just thinking how would that trans translate Japanese with
47:45
that transpose over? How would you say in Japanese?
47:51
So Lee and I wouldn't because I don't speak Japanese.
47:56
And yeah, yeah, you haven't. You're kind of starting to get
48:00
in anime now. Like you've given it a good go
48:03
watching Bleach and all that. Sorry, Naruto.
48:07
Where would you rank this in what you've seen so far?
48:10
Oh. Do you recommend other people to
48:14
watch it? You know what, right?
48:19
The ones that I've watched have been like the really big
48:23
enemies. So I've watched things like
48:26
Naruto, obviously Dragon Ball One Piece and Naruto, Attack on
48:30
Titan, Death Note, Jiu Jitsu Kaizen, Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
48:38
Era. I don't think this is as good as
48:44
any of those. Well I think it's definitely
48:47
better than Jiu Jitsu Kaizen so it is a really good show but I
48:54
need to see more enemies to put this on a list.
49:00
Should we recommend Better than done?
49:03
To done. Don't say that.
49:05
Should we? Should we recommend a crap 1 so
49:08
you know what a crap 1 looks like?
49:11
Oh yeah, sure. Recommend I want to eat your
49:13
pancreas. No.
49:16
Well, actually. Leave it.
49:17
Turn that off straight away. The worst enemy I've seen with
49:21
them I I don't think people are going to be happy with this, but
49:24
the worst enemy I've ever seen was Spirited Away.
49:28
No way. I did.
49:30
I did not like. It like so to be fair, that
49:32
doesn't surprise me because I think that comes down to a
49:34
preference thing, not a quality thing like I just was that's a
49:38
Lee anime and that's OK. I just.
49:40
Didn't resonate with it at all. No, that's fine.
49:46
I do love it though. Visions of escavallones.
49:55
I actually want to keep recommending Lee watch good
49:58
anime and I want him to watch Ghost in the Shell.
50:02
You would like that because you would like it.
50:04
I think he'd like that and the standard.
50:08
It's. Really, it's fun as well.
50:13
What? I didn't hear that.
50:15
Version. Oh, and I've got scholarly
50:17
Huntsman, hasn't it? Yeah, Yeah.
50:19
That's that's a vision we're talking about.
50:23
That is never, never has been, never will be the version I'm
50:26
talking about when I took our case in the shelf.
50:29
Never watching that. To me, that is not Canon.
50:34
It's fine. But I think that's a pretty much
50:38
me for me questions on got you. Do you guys want to add anything
50:42
else or is? OK, do you have a favorite
50:46
character so far? Like who?
50:48
Who do you think is the coolest character and why is it engine?
50:54
It is engine. It is engine, isn't it?
50:57
He's so cool. I love, I love an anime with a
51:00
character where you're like immediately, like, oh, he's so
51:03
cool. I want to be his friend, Yeah.
51:07
Although this is a little bit ahead of where you are, but I
51:10
like the scissor Girl. That's not a sexual thing, by
51:13
the way, but I quite like Scissor Girl.
51:16
Yeah, she's pretty good back. You'll see who she is.
51:20
And that also explains some other DMS that you've sent me.
51:24
Oh, and. I wasn't talking about it.
51:26
Got you good then. I've, I've got 1 and I can't
51:33
remember his name and it's early days, but there's a big guy with
51:37
a hose and who I really like and I think I could, yeah, either
51:45
that or the guy with. The guy with the house, is he
51:46
happy go lucky? No opposite actually.
51:50
He's he's from a section of the cleaners that are caught.
51:56
They're separated into emotion or state or something.
51:59
And this is like, I think it's like motivation.
52:04
So he's all like, yeah, like full on in your face.
52:07
But he's not like happy go lucky and he's a giant of a man with a
52:11
hose and I think he's a gardener, so yeah.
52:16
Are you sure you're watching Catching Hooter and not hentai?
52:22
Maybe, I don't know, you send us so many links now, like lately.
52:33
Oh, is there anyone you didn't like?
52:37
Chewer. Yeah, what a bitch.
52:42
She's such a bitch. Yeah.
52:45
She was really quick to just give up.
52:47
Give up on him. Do you know what I mean?
52:48
That's not cool. Yeah.
52:53
Feel like I'll forgive her. Do you reckon when he does make
52:57
when he makes a bug up, I think things will get explained and
53:01
she'll help him. I think he's going to punch her
53:03
right in the Ted. I would love it.
53:07
I would love it if that's the option.
53:12
I think it'll be like, I think it'll be hard to redeem her
53:16
because she's quite annoying anyway.
53:18
So automatically I was predisposed to thinking, oh,
53:21
this is a bit much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair.
53:27
Yeah. So I don't think there's, I
53:30
think anyone can be redeemed. So oh please, please, Saskia,
53:36
please. Don't know what you're going to
53:39
do, but please. For a minute I thought you were
53:41
going to stop praying for your own soul.
53:43
I was like, whoa. Oh no, I'm far beyond
53:47
redemption. Anyone could be redeemed, Lee.
53:51
I thought you were going to end start talking about Bunkley.
53:56
Oh, Bunkley. Yeah, yeah.
53:59
What a man. What?
54:02
No. What's it called?
54:03
What a person. Yeah.
54:06
Oh yeah. OK.
54:07
Yeah, yeah. So what?
54:09
We've got caught up next week, Phoebes.
54:12
Well, next week we're on a break.
54:16
As in Chris and I have decided that our relationship isn't
54:19
working for us. So we're separate now.
54:22
Mummy and daddy still love you very much anime club, but we're
54:26
deciding to live separate lives for a little bit.
54:29
So what we've done is we have been recording at like demon
54:33
speed is the reason that Chris and I look like we've aged five
54:36
years in the last couple of weeks because we have been
54:39
burning the candle at 2 ends and we have now stacked episodes all
54:43
the way up till January the 2nd. And what makes it really fun is
54:48
that throughout the end of November up to December, we are
54:54
doing anime club with with friends.
54:56
We've got a guest on every week. So it's a huge thank you as well
55:00
to all of the people who've appeared on episodes with us.
55:04
And next week I think it's we're doing the creators of Zombiecon
55:09
Volume one are coming on to talk about Spy, Spy X family, Spy
55:15
Times Family. I still call it Spy Times
55:17
family, but. It's just.
55:18
Spy X family. It's also Spy family.
55:22
Yeah, that is the conversation. I've basically just repeated the
55:25
first part of this. Yeah.
55:28
In some sort of weird, huge state of an outro.
55:33
So yeah, we've got, we've got and we've got them coming on.
55:37
So watch this space and we'll see you again, like live.
55:42
The next time we'll be live, we'll be in January.
55:46
Yeah. And we'll, we'll probably just
55:48
talk about what we've been doing and then what we'll be watching
55:51
as well because we've got so much time to catch up on stuff
55:54
that we've only watched 3 episodes of.
55:58
Exactly. And with and we're basically
56:00
sending ourselves off into our break with Lee and then our
56:03
break, we'll finish with Lee having watched Akira, which I'm
56:08
genuinely very excited about because when we went to Sony Con
56:11
together last year, I very excitedly pointed a post to a
56:14
poster of Akira to Lee and he looked at me blankly and I was
56:18
like, I can't believe Lee hasn't seen Akira.
56:20
It's one of the most like body horrory anime films to have been
56:26
made, and it's right up the street.
56:29
So you get to come back and hear what Lee says in the new year,
56:34
what his. Thoughts Next next Sony con, I'm
56:36
going to be pointing things out to you going, oh, look at this
56:39
and you'll be. Cannot wait.
56:41
You're going to be the day that you recommend me an anime.
56:44
I'm going to be so excited. That's that's the goal.
56:49
Should we try to find the worst one, Lee?
56:53
No, I'm, I'm just going to keep promoting Kagura Bachi because
56:56
when that gets made in when anime is going to absolutely
56:59
blow shit out of the water. Yeah, I didn't realize you're
57:02
more of a more technically more of a manga reader than an
57:05
actual. Yeah.
57:06
Lee, Amir. Watcher.
57:07
Lee has actually read more manga than I think either of us have
57:11
read. Yeah, probably.
57:13
Yeah, yeah. Of course.
57:16
Well, that's because you can't read.
57:18
True it, it's my last name. Ironically, in a cruel twist.
57:22
What? What have you got coming up,
57:23
mate? Cruel.
57:24
Twist of fate. This comes out on Friday.
57:27
It is currently World Men's Day. Wednesday the 19th Wednesday,
57:33
International Men's Day. So maybe we would.
57:35
Forget that, Chris. Well, do better.
57:40
So you give us your slack. Don't.
57:45
Well, I think maybe it's an hour.
57:49
An hour ago there would have been just finishing.
57:52
Maybe it's the Alabaster Arc. I think if that's where we're up
57:56
to. I can't remember where we're up
57:58
to on Straw Chat, and we've got some Christmas stuff maybe
58:05
coming up on Top Grumps, but we're also having a break.
58:09
We've got a quiz that we're going to be doing in the
58:11
Discord, I think. I don't know what we've got
58:13
planned and there is just make it 2 secrets, 2 secret things
58:19
that we've got planned. One I've told you about 1:00 I'm
58:22
going to tell you about once we come off this podcast because I
58:24
just remembered it before. But it is also another top comes
58:27
top drum special episode that we are going to have to release in
58:34
12 days time from now from when we record this on.
58:39
The. Name.
58:44
It'll be a short 1. Nothing.
58:45
Nothing too strenuous. If it's fun, I don't mind doing
58:48
it. But anyway, thanks for coming on
58:51
me and see you in January from Anime Club.
58:56
Yeah, yes, bye.