Latest / Gone Cold - Texas True Crime / The Murder of Mickey Bryan Part 4: Joe Takes the Stand
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- 0:02The Gone Cold. Podcasts may contain violent or graphics subject matter. Listener discretion
- 0:07is advised. It wasn't only Charlie Blue and Bud Saunders Late Night Country Drive
- 0:21on which prosecutors depended in the state of Texas versus Joe Dalebrien. According to
- 0:28the case built by Texas Ranger Joe Wilie, District Attorney Andy McMullen, and
- 0:34Special Prosecutor Gary Llewellen, there was also Joe's theorized drive. It goes something
- 0:41like this. At approximately nine to fifteen pm on October fourteenth, nineteen eighty
- 0:48five, Joe and the victim, his wife, Mickey Brian, got off
- 0:52the phone after talking for several minutes. Joe then left the High Regency in
- 0:58Austin, where he was stayed while in town for the annual meeting of the
- 1:02Texas Association of Secondary School Principles. He was to return home the following day,
- 1:10but instead of rolling over and going to sleep, authorities speculated Joe began
- 1:15the perpetration of a crime he'd been meticulously planning for some time. He climbed
- 1:22in his nineteen eighty four black Mercury Grand Marquis and headed to his and Mickey's
- 1:27house in Clifton, Texas a trip Clifton Police Sergeant Chuck Ford testified to clocking
- 1:34as either a two hour thirty three minute drive or a two hour twenty six
- 1:40minute drive, depending on the route. Either way, Joe just so happened
- 1:46to arrive not long after, or perhaps just before, a telephone call between
- 1:52Mickey and her mother ended, managing not to be seen by a soul.
- 1:57Both himself and his vehicle parked somewhere near his home on the nine hundred block
- 2:02of South Avenue O in Clifton, and entered, using a flashlight to blind
- 2:09Mickey of his identity. Joe got in close proximity to his wife and shot
- 2:15her four times, once in the left side of her face, from a
- 2:19distance of about six inches. They'd have you believe he moved to a different
- 2:23position each shot. He then turned on the ceiling fan, which, like
- 2:30nearly the entirety of the room, had been spattered with small spots of blood.
- 2:36The implication here was that the fan was turned on to dry the blood
- 2:40faster and obscure the time of death. In the master bathroom, Joe then
- 2:46cleaned off the massive amount of blood. Investigators insisted he'd have had to be
- 2:53covered with After he shot, Mickey wiped it down and changed clothes and shoes.
- 2:58As there was no blood tracked around the Brian home, but not before
- 3:02discarding his underwear, which he'd for some reason ejaculated in the state maintained this
- 3:10extremely intelligent shrewd man, as Special Prosecutor Llewellyn referred to Joe had made his
- 3:19first supposed mistake. It wasn't the last. Next, Joe returned to his
- 3:24car with a few valuables he'd taken from the scene. He then put those,
- 3:30the flashlight, gloves, his bloodied presumably theorized bagged clothes, and the
- 3:37murder weapon in the trunk. On the way back to Austin, Joe ditched
- 3:42the valuables, the clothing, and the murder weapon somewhere, leaving behind.
- 3:46The prosecution argued the flashlight spattered with apparent blood. He was back at the
- 3:53Hyatt Regency Hotel by sun up, bright eyed and bushy tailed. Technically it
- 4:00was possible for someone to have done this, but there were issues with Joe
- 4:06making this trip, of which the drives to and from In themselves would have
- 4:11taken about five hours. Considering the downpour and thunderstorms. Joe would had to
- 4:17have driven through that night. It would most likely take longer. Joe would
- 4:24have undeniably driven the entire way to Clifton in relatively heavy rain, and then
- 4:30in heavy fog the entire way back to Austin. Add to that the man's
- 4:34eye condition, which made it difficult for him to see at night, and
- 4:39you'd need to add considerably more time. The cleanup of the master bedroom was
- 4:45done so well investigators could not find evidence it had been done. It's not
- 4:50an easy thing to put a specific amount of time to, but presumably that
- 4:56and changing clothes would have taken a decent amount of time. Joe would have
- 5:01surely left evidence he'd been in his car during the thunderstorms, if not mud,
- 5:08perhaps wet leaves, which would have been very present at every turn in
- 5:13a Texas October. But the Mercury was clean scrupulously so the man who drove
- 5:19it to Waco from Austin testified, the man to whom Joe handed over his
- 5:26keys without hesitation. Did Joe Brian also have time to clean the car,
- 5:33leaving behind much more invaluables than what he took. Was not a very smart
- 5:39thing to do while staging a burglary, especially for a man who prosecutors would
- 5:44have you believe was basically a super criminal, capable of a meticulously executed act
- 5:50of violence while pooling literally everyone he'd ever met. Then taking up more time,
- 5:58he ditched those his blome clothing and the murder weapon, which would presumably
- 6:02have been with the flashlight spattered with apparent blood, though he neglected to dispose
- 6:10of that last thing on the list, all without leaving a trace of blood
- 6:15in his car or trunk's interior that Texas Department of Public Safety crime scene technicians
- 6:20could find. While a few things might have justifiably given jurors pause during the
- 6:27state's presentation of the case, there was no hard evidence introduced, though possible.
- 6:33The prosecution's timeline of the murder and events surrounding it was sketchy at best,
- 6:42but Special Prosecutor Gary Llewellyn was saving his special talents for his cross examination
- 6:47of the defendant in a trial, particularly a murder trial. Perhaps the defendant
- 6:56taking this stand is rarely a good idea. It was a mixed bag in
- 7:00the State of Texas versus Joe Brian in nineteen eighty six, but ultimately would
- 7:06not prove to be the exception to the rule. Joe's attorney, Charles MacDonald,
- 7:13started out strong without a doubt, stating right off the bat that although
- 7:17it was not the defense's obligation to introduce evidence, he intended to do just
- 7:24that. Joe Brian himself was their first witness. He described Mickey the victim
- 7:30and his marriage his close friendship with her. The prosecution could find no one
- 7:38to dispute their seemingly ideal union. In fact, they had normal disagreements.
- 7:44Joe testified over stuff like spending practices. Mickey, he said, was quite
- 7:49frugal, suggesting that he wasn't extremely so. Such testimony didn't last too long.
- 7:58It was obvious McDonald was ready to get down to business. The narrative
- 8:03that Joe Brian was secretly a gay man and looking to get Mickey out of
- 8:07the way so he could live as one was created by law enforcement using his
- 8:13gentle personality, lack of socially constructed masculine hobbies and habits, and at Chippendale's
- 8:20Hunk of the month calendar found in the trunk of his car during the execution
- 8:26of a search warrant, Joe testified that the calendar was a gag gift for
- 8:31a friend of he and Mickey's who was widowed. Later, an employee of
- 8:37the Waco department store Joe remembered buying the calendar from testified her store never carried
- 8:43the item. It seemed like a strange exertion of the prosecution's energy to call
- 8:48such a witness, since just about anyone in the world might forget where they
- 8:54bought an item, especially if they'd visited several stores the same day or sin.
- 9:01But in the mid nineteen eighties, while AIDS was still perceived as a
- 9:05gay man's disease, accusations of being a gay man didn't exactly get you a
- 9:11fair shake in smalltown Texas. And there's absolutely no doubt prosecutors and police had
- 9:16used it against Joe With that in mind, they were dead set on keeping
- 9:22that narrative, and it worked in more than one way. After all,
- 9:26if he were capable of hiding such a secret, one da Andy McMullen suggested
- 9:33was perverted behavior than the people of Clifton really didn't know Joe Brian at all.
- 9:41The insinuation, of course, was that he was also capable of murdering
- 9:46his wife. Defense attorney Charles McDonald moved on without much concentration on the Chippendale's
- 10:05calendar. Joe testified that he and Mickey always kept the garage doors open,
- 10:11a claim that could have been easily contradicted by a neighbor, but it was
- 10:16not contradicted in court. The couple had never received any threats or worrisome phone
- 10:24calls. The defendant testified, just crank calls every now and then, a
- 10:30popular pastime of kids of the day. He didn't know of anyone who would
- 10:35want to murder Mickey. The prosecution's case depended on a tight theory, pure
- 10:41speculation that Mickey's killer showered in the master bathroom or cleaned themselves up in the
- 10:46sink. The shower, however, leaked on the floor and had not been
- 10:52in use. Policemen and the pathologist who performed the autopsy had testified that the
- 10:58killer would have been covered in blood, a statement that seems to suggest cleaning
- 11:03up in the sink would have been difficult and almost certainly leave evidence that it
- 11:09happened, but there was no evidence of such. Before leaving for Austin,
- 11:16Joe testified he filled up the tank of his nineteen eighty four Mercury and had
- 11:20purchased no gas after the state could provide no evidence of transactions the night Mickey
- 11:28was killed that showed Joe had purchased gas, Defense introduced such records into evidence,
- 11:35as well as trip odometer readings that showed Joe didn't make the trip.
- 11:41Later, during closing arguments, D A. McMullen called the odometer readings just
- 11:46an effort to create a story for him. As far as the flashlight,
- 11:52Joe told the court it was in his master bedroom on a dresser or nightstand
- 11:56and not in the trunk of his Mercury when he left to attend the conference
- 12:01in Austin. He had no idea, Joe said how it ended up in
- 12:07his car. The three fifty seven Smith and Wesson revolver, loaded with shotshell
- 12:13rounds, sat on top of his nightstand when he left. Joe had no
- 12:18idea, He said where it was now without coming right out and saying it.
- 12:24Joe's testimony suggested both the flashlight and money were placed in the trunk of
- 12:30his car sometime during the five days he was without it from the moment he
- 12:35was told of Mickey's murder. In Austin to his brother in law, Charlie
- 12:39Blue, returning it after a warrant was executed. On the twentieth, during
- 12:45the prosecution's witness testimony, McDonald had cross examined Charlie Blue hard, perhaps proving
- 12:52to be his most effective counter in the trial. The entirety of the States
- 12:58case revolved around the discovery of the flashlight. In other words, the credibility
- 13:03of the victim's brother. Defense wondered how Charlie would prove he didn't put the
- 13:09flashlight in Joe's trunk. The witness insisted he did not. McDonald knew he
- 13:16couldn't prove that, but it was the motive that the lawyer was skillfully aiming
- 13:22for in the long run, and in turn the introduction of Charlie Blue as
- 13:28someone who planted the evidence. For the following reason, McDonald had grilled Texas
- 13:33Ranger Joe Wiley about what the defendant's brother in law had to gain, and
- 13:39the lawman led him write to it. He asked Wiley to affirm that he
- 13:45hadn't come up with a motive for Joe Bryan to have committed the crime.
- 13:48If the defense attorney wanted to surmise a motive. The lawman responded, in
- 13:54defiance of the question, the victim was worth over three hundred thousand dollars,
- 14:00the equivalent of eight hundred and seventy five thousand dollars in twenty twenty four.
- 14:05Now was McDonald's opportunity. He asked Wiley if he knew Charlie Blue had filed
- 14:11a lawsuit in Cleeburn claiming his sister's life insurance and savings. Wiley said he
- 14:20was aware of the lawsuit. McDonald asked the ranger if he knew should Joe
- 14:24Brian be convicted, Charlie Blue stood to gain some money. He didn't know
- 14:31who stood to gain money. Wiley responded, only Joe. Perhaps, as
- 14:35he had just tried to assert, another opportunity was handed to the defense on
- 14:41a silver platter. You haven't checked that out, McDonald inquired. Ranger Wiley
- 14:48responded, no, sir. The implication, of course, was that Ranger
- 14:52Wiley had not covered all the bases. Investigators were not significantly questioned about other
- 15:01viable alternative suspects. However, fast forward back to day six of the trial.
- 15:07Just before resting, defense attorney Charles McDonald asked Joe if he had anything
- 15:13to do with the murder of his wife. He answered, I did not
- 15:18kill Mickey, so help me God. Early in his cross examination, Special
- 15:24prosecutor Gary Llewellen tried to trip up the defendant with questioning pertaining to the Jack
- 15:31Shaw story, but his attempt fell flat. Aware that the day was near
- 15:37its end, Llewellyn's first handful of questions were unremarkable, but he was just
- 15:43getting started. Joe Brian had testified that he indeed threw a pair of underwear
- 15:50away the day before leaving for Austin because they were worn out. As far
- 15:56as any stains on them were concerned, Joe had told Rainy Wiley that he
- 16:00had a leaky bladder condition and that any discoloration might have been the result of
- 16:07the many vitamins he took. No one was introduced at trial to contradict Joe's
- 16:12medical conditions. He denied his seamen could have been found on the underwear.
- 16:18When Llewellyn returned to his cross examination on day seven, he came in swinging
- 16:25with that very subject. Upon bringing out the underwear, Joe denied that it
- 16:30was the pair he had thrown away. Did the defendant expect the jury to
- 16:34believe Mickey's killer took the underwear Joe had thrown away and left a different pair
- 16:41in its place. Llewellyn asked it was a good question for the jury to
- 16:47hear the state was calling a still moist fluid that stained the underwear seamen and
- 16:53said it shared Joe's blood type. Later, it was discovered Texas rang Joe
- 17:00Wiley, nor any other investigator at the crime scene had mentioned anything about underwear
- 17:07being wet, moist or damp at all, not in reports and not in
- 17:11notes. A Texas Department of Public Safety crime lab technician could not testify as
- 17:18to their state of wetness either. Though the next line of questioning was utterly
- 17:26ridiculous, It played out dramatically in the courtroom, purposefully meant to put jurors
- 17:33in a place none of them had ever been in Joe's shoes after the horrific
- 17:38murder of a spouse, and the special prosecutor was nothing if not a showman.
- 17:45Llewellyn asked Joe Bryan essentially why he wasn't constantly calling and visiting the police
- 17:52asking for a progress report. Then, in what was surely a bizarre and
- 17:57confusing few moments, the special prosecutor made it sound like Joe should have tried
- 18:03to get to know Texas Ranger Joe Wiley. Isn't it important to know who's
- 18:08trying to find the killer of your wife? He asked the defendant. Llewellyn
- 18:14spent time trying to build a narrative that showed Joe had been uncooperative with the
- 18:19investigation, an odd choice since every investigating law enforcement officer had already testified to
- 18:27his cooperation and readiness to help. Again. He attempted to trip Joe up
- 18:33by asking if it was strange that the first items he'd mentioned ended up being
- 18:38the items missing from the scene. It was easily explained he was asked by
- 18:45the police what items of jewelry Mickey wore, and he told them Mickey was
- 18:51killed in the master bedroom, So mentioning the other valuables they kept there and
- 18:56the gun they kept there is not unreasonable response because of the many other missteps
- 19:03and omissions by investigators and officers in their notes and reports. Anyway, it
- 19:11isn't difficult to believe Joe mentioned other items that failed to even be documented.
- 19:17Special Prosecutor Gary Llewellen ended his cross examination of Joe Bryan with rapid fire.
- 19:22Questioning meant not for answers. Rather, it was rhetorical, carefully crafted for
- 19:29a few specific purposes to get the defendant to mix up his words and attempt
- 19:34to catch him contradicting something in prior testimony or police interviews, to hyperbolically make
- 19:42Joe's accounts and testimony sound absurd as a way to disguise their weak case and
- 19:48statements based only on speculation and absolutely no evidence as questions. It was all
- 19:56a show for the jury. Llewellyn, like Lee, didn't care if Joe
- 20:00answered at all. The Special prosecutor ridiculed Joe's Jackshaw story and the defense's insinuation
- 20:10that Charlie Blue could have planted the flashlight and then perhaps the money. Joe
- 20:15Brian testified he never said that, and he didn't He replied mostly with no
- 20:22or I don't know, and that would be turned around on him in the
- 20:26closing arguments. Everything you said was not true, Joe said, I did
- 20:32not kill Mickey. Have you ever wondered why mister Llewellyn would want you to
- 20:48be smart and brilliant and at other times want you to be dumb and stupid.
- 20:55Defense attorney Charles McDonald asked Joe Brian when the witness was turned back over,
- 21:00have you ever wondered why they did not bring in witnesses to say you
- 21:04were not in Austin, Yes, Sir, Joe replied to both. Joe
- 21:11Bryan was dismissed from the stand shortly before noon on the seventh day, and
- 21:15thirty six character witnesses were brought in. The testimony paused only for lunch from
- 21:23neighbors and colleagues to fellow church goers, Joe received glowing and sincere endorsements,
- 21:30as did his in Mickey's marriage. To save time, the jury was informed
- 21:36of an even larger number of character witnesses who'd all agreed about Joe's reputation as
- 21:41a respected, peaceful, and law abiding citizen. The defense rested the state
- 21:49closed their case after short testimony. We've already covered a highatt regency, Austin
- 21:56hotel employee and a Waco department store employee. Court was adjourned for the day
- 22:03and continued on day eight with motions filed by the defense. The first was
- 22:08for a judge instructed verdict of not guilty, since the state attorney, Charles
- 22:15MacDonald said hadn't provided any evidence that might be interpreted beyond reasonable doubt. Judge
- 22:22James Morgan denied the motion. He also filed for the case to be reopened
- 22:29for testimony from Penny Blue, the victim's sister. She'd received reports from a
- 22:34neighbor that a mysterious blue truck had parked on the street across from her parents'
- 22:41home, Vera and Otis Blue. It was three a m. During one
- 22:45of the days Joe's car was out of his possession and was parked in the
- 22:51Blues driveway. The police had been aware of the incident of the blue truck.
- 22:56Penny testified. The testimony was heard later in the day while the jury
- 23:03deliberated rendering it useless. Defense also filed a motion for the reading of a
- 23:11twenty four page deposition of Joe and Mickey Brian's insurance agent, Terry Spicer.
- 23:17It was denied by the judge. Another denied motion was the objection of Attorney
- 23:23Gary Llewellen, a special prosecutor, a motion the defense had asked for before
- 23:30at the beginning of the trial. During closing arguments, while prosecutors called what
- 23:37they had against Joe Brian a mountain of evidence that proved Joe was guilty beyond
- 23:44a reasonable doubt. Defense co counsel Lynn Malone cited the thirteen sets of fingerprints
- 23:51from unknown individuals, the purely speculative narrative the state provided, and their theory
- 23:56that was sculpted at every turn. That so called evidence the prosecution, Malone
- 24:03asserted, had nothing, certainly no mountain. When McDonald took over closing arguments
- 24:11after lunch, he mentioned the character witnesses, Joe's spotless criminal record, the
- 24:18lack of motive, and he and Mickey's virtually problem free relationship and marriage.
- 24:25There was no evidence at all of Joe being violent. Ever, the prosecution
- 24:30had mentioned during the trial that Joe might have been trying to make the murder
- 24:34look like a suicide. But when the first shot didn't kill Mickey, he
- 24:40was forced to shoot her three more times. But that begged the question,
- 24:44how were those shots accurate as Joe's glasses, which he could not see without
- 24:49covered in blood, As per the state's speculative but stated matter of factly claims,
- 24:56McDonald called that more speculative than an anything that's ever been on a bad
- 25:02television drama. He asked jurors not to lose sight of their common sense and
- 25:07return a verdict of not guilty. In the prosecution's last word, special prosecutor
- 25:15Gary Llewellen went over his cross examination of Joe Brian. At eleven twenty am
- 25:22on Wednesday, April ninth, nineteen eighty six, jurors began deliberations. They
- 25:27returned three and a half hours later with a verdict of guilty. After later
- 25:33and shorter deliberations about a half an hour, the jury returned with a sentence
- 25:40of ninety nine years in a Texas prison and a ten thousand dollars fine.
- 25:45Two days later, Joe Brian was transported to a Huntsville, Texas prison.
- 25:52Nearly two years later, in February of nineteen eighty eight, an appeals court
- 25:57reversed the conviction on a technicality, or, more accurately, a ridiculous mistake
- 26:04made by a judge who constantly seemed to favor the prosecution. Joe was granted
- 26:11a new trial. Before the jury deliberated in the nineteen eighty six trial,
- 26:17Judge James Morgan denied defense attorney Charles McDonald's motion to read for a jury a
- 26:22deposition from Terry Spicer. Joe and Mickey's insurance agent. The document was simple.
- 26:30It refuted the claim made by Texas ranger Joe Wiley that Mickey was worth
- 26:34three hundred thousand dollars to Joe upon her death. She's worth over three hundred
- 26:41thousand to him dead, if you want to surmise a motive, were Wiley's
- 26:45exact words to Attorney McDonald. Spicer himself had talked Mickey and Joe Brian into
- 26:52setting the payouts on their life insurance policies at one hundred and fifty thousand dollars
- 26:57each, half as manch much as the lawman had claimed in front of a
- 27:03jury. The policies were purchased several years before Mickey Bryan was murdered. Joe
- 27:12was not exonerated, and his new trial was set for the following year.
- 27:18We'll discuss that briefly next episode, followed by solid Alternative Suspects, evidentiary hearings
- 27:26based on real science decades later, and then the Killer Cop. But first
- 27:33we're going back to nineteen eighty four, to the second murder committed that year
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