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Spitballin’ Your Magic Ideas! #213 · The Magic Guys

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Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to episode 213 of the Magic Guys.
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scott link is in the house,
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i like how the comments show our friends faces now in the comments that's awesome gutbuster mike.
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With no photo so that takes back what i just said
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tim askin hello all scotty p who
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we met in person again over the weekend look
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this is great to have you all here and uh doug's
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got a new setting there doug you were telling us that
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they gave you a that you got a day off now
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in in your shop so yeah we're working it out you know
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we figured out some shop hours so at
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trick supply we're open like the brick and mortar is open now so
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it's wednesday to saturday noon to six if you're
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in las vegas come pick a card and uh yeah so
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now yeah it'll be great seeing you guys
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there for sure but i'm off sunday and monday so maybe sometimes i'll go into
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the shop and do the podcast from there for kicks or you know if we got a product
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promotion but this is not the new space this is the working space that will
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evolve into the new space over the next month or two. We are still unpacking.
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Look what I just unpacked. I unpacked this just for you. You know what?
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You've seen it before if you're a Magic Guys fan.
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It is the algorithm appeasement generator.
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You're talking about arts. There we go.
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Now, if you're not hitting the like button now, I don't like you. So, there we go.
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I bet that slays on TikTok when you, especially that line. If you don't like
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the video, I don't like you. Oh, no, I just wrote that.
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I'll let you know about this thing. You know the name of this?
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You know what this prop is?
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It's red, it's square, it's got windows, it's got this for the listeners at home.
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If I had to guess, for the listeners at home, it's basically a square box with
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three walls missing and looks like a little temple on top. I'm going to call it the love temple.
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Whatever its name is that's its new name for sure
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it's the love temple the love temple or as i like to call it my apartment oh
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no i didn't mean to end that you need to hit that there we go jason was here
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we'd have the porn hub theme you have that one on yours,
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no he used to play that all the time yeah maybe that's why his roadcaster pro
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died because it got sticky. Anyway.
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It's the Chinese pagoda box for reference. That's what it is.
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The pagoda box. What's a pagoda?
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I think it's this thing. I think it's like, I think this makes it a pagoda.
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Like this, this whole area is the pagoda.
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We should make an Australian version. That'd be like, oh, it's the veranda box.
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And you just have someone's veranda on.
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He knows it's a pagoda box yeah then we can make like a tiki box I'm still going
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to call it the love temple so it will never be referred to as a pagoda again in my universe.
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Excellently known as the Chinese building is a pagoda. Okay.
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It's a much more marketable name is what we're saying.
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Heck yeah. Well look guys I was going to say there was a time where like so
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many cool things in the magic realm were all based around it being like the
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mysterious Chinese something probably due to this cat here behind me the Fu
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Manchu and Chunling Su as well but like it was the,
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Chinese linking rings and the you know and the mystery of the Chinese whatever
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else and like especially of the Japanese influences with coin magic using the
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Aikido boxes as well so it's,
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now you come into trick supply you look at the top shelf all
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around the shop it's nothing but wooden props
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with Chinese ornamental designs on them
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where do you think the fascination for the
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chinese realm of magic kind of came through
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that whole chungling su period yeah it makes
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sense right i mean it takes magicians 200 years to figure out that isn't even
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like topical when it was topical you know yeah it's just some chinese crap on
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everything yeah it's some greasy guy from rhode island just come over and be
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like you know No, I'm Chinese.
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Yeah, I guess. You know, it's, I mean, you know, it's fine.
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We found tuxedos somewhere in the mid-50s, and then we did that for 800 years,
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and thank God we're out of the tuxedos, and back to Robert Houdou,
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where we can pretty much wear whatever we want, you know, a modern style of.
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Of uh clothing as opposed to
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the robes with the dunce hat or something like that
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yeah well you know costume wise we've we've
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gone from like the wizards with the giant sleeves robert hudan
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which we've spoken about in in the previous podcast we did
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and that was one of my things to do actually as far as history
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lessons goes he was the first to go no no we're tucks we're
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high end we're like if it wasn't for him we'd probably
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still be looking like stupid wizards and and we'd all be performing
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that we'd have the square circle with the fu manchu
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on it you know yeah yeah no indeed but like
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everyone would have the pagoda love temple yeah and look and nowadays bro like
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i've dressed up in so many different facets for magic you know like i most recently
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had to dress up as the mad hatter which kind of leads me into a question for
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you josh there is an amazing magician in town,
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your town of Brisbane, who lectured yesterday.
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That was an amazing segue.
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Let me just say. That was perfect.
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I'm getting really good at this. Brisbane has the Cirque du Soleil show called
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Cirque Alice playing right now,
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the Alice in Wonderland themed, and it is emceed by none other than,
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well, the Mad Hatter character is being played by magic legend, Jeff Hobson.
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Jeff. Yeah, Sean Piper, who runs Piper Magic in Australia, shout out to him,
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organized like a legend for Jeff on one of his nights off in Brisbane to come
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and lecture for the Brisbane magicians,
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which Jeff, they told us last night, Jeff has not lectured in Australia for 25 years.
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So this is the first time since then that he's ever like shared his goodness live in person.
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So people flew from everywhere. we had people
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flying from there was one guy that flew from melbourne like just
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he flew from melbourne straight to the venue
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just to see the lecture and it's and is then getting like the first flight back
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like he literally just came for that and uh it brought all sorts of people out
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of the woodworks to listen to this great guy just you know i walked in i sat
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front row and i was like you know what he can talk about the price of apples for all I care.
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I just want to like be around his good vibes and, you know, just enjoy this
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time with him pretty much. You know what I'm curious about?
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I mean, the guy is so well known for his egg bag. And if you've not seen his
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egg bag routine after the show, give it a quick Google YouTube lookup because
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you will see it is probably one of the most funny and entertaining displays of the egg bag.
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There's got to be a bigger repertoire outside of that. I know it's what he's
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known for, but if I was to ask you guys, oh yeah, the Hobson egg bag and the
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Hobson, finish that sentence. I got one.
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I'm pretty sure it's his. It's the balloon dog routine.
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Oh, that's him. You're right. Yeah. That is killer. He walks through it last night as well.
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And gave tidbits. I didn't know that.
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Yeah. For those that don't know what it is, he takes a twisty
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balloon makes a little dog does a whole bunch of jokes with it
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and then he does this whole bit where it's like lay down play dead
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and then he pops the balloon and always a
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kid or a lady on stage right so he's got this six-year-old
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just bang kills the dog and the
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kids like oh like they get kind of like there's this moment
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where i've seen it be done and like the kids almost about to cry because they wanted
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that balloon but then what you do is you take the balloon that's been
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popped you put it in a bag and you give a cpr like you
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breathe into a bag like you were hyperventilating and then
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when you blow it up pop the bag the dogs
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come back to life you literally and then you give it to the child or or
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spectator and away they go just so good and
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it sounds you know it sounds it sounds weird when we're describing it but it's
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a thing it's so freaking hilarious when you watch it i look at this yeah i'm
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looking the first time i saw him performed the balloon bag was when I went to
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see the illusionists as a very new magician.
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And I, that was my introduction to Jeff Hobson was walking into the QPAC theater
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and just seeing this happen. And it's so funny.
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And he performed it last night for magicians and it still brought the house
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down because he's like, look, yeah, you bring up kids, but this kills with adults
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too. Look, I'll show you.
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And he brought a guy up and just treated him like a kid.
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Like he's like, now I need someone who's seven. You're seven,
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right? And he's pointing at like this 17-year-old. He's like, yeah, you'll do.
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And he kept throughout the routine just being like, and you're seven, right? He's like, yeah.
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And he just made it funny, him acting, treating him like a kid.
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My buddy, Dante does adult shows.
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He works for the burlesque environment, Sean Dawson, and he uses it there.
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He gets a nice attractive female on the stage and gives her the dog and,
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you know, it kills for adults. It's no problem.
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Here's something I was impressed with. He doesn't use a balloon pump.
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He can straight up just blow up the balloon from his mouth. Bro, that's work.
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And he said, one of his tips was, if you do this routine, he's like,
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that's the way you got to do it.
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You can't be bringing out a pump as well and all this crap. It's like,
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it's way funnier when you can just go.
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And he said, the way you do it, because it looks like I just have a power set
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of lungs. He said, the way you do it is you get your balloons and you get your balloons.
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And you pre-stretch them. He said you stretch them by actually stretching out.
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Like he stretched this balloon as wide as his arms would go outstretched to the side of him.
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And he said you do that and you hold it for at least like 10 seconds.
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And then do that like three times. And that will wear down the strength of the
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balloon so that you actually have a chance of blowing it up.
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That was a hot take I'd never, ever been told. I'm just saying that's why you
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fly across Australia to listen to Jeff Hobson talk.
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Hell yeah. The real work. Talking about his repertoire, right?
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So he's known for his card-to-mouth comedy routine, his dog bag, and his egg bag, right?
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But I was watching his cruise ship show, which he has available for purchase
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on his Dobson Choice website.
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Is this performance only?
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Performance, yeah. It's performance only. That's right. And you know what his
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opener is for a 45-minute show?
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Fire eating this guy i had no
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idea he eats fire he you know
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he lights one the other one with his mouth like he'll grab
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the flame move it across he will use his hand
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to like grab fire put on the next one he has
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this whole one minute bit to music and eating
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fire it like blowing it out then like
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getting the fire and this whole shtick like talk
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about a visual opener like that is so
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unexpected from him and you know i remember paulie
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now he he did us he did a ensemble act
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with kaylin and ginger the carnival of wonders where
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he was kind of the ringmaster or the leader
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i bet he did sideshow and that yeah yeah
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and that show man he's done so much work in
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his life like you know major theater shows
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in the states for sure long runs in vegas yeah
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is he still doing the watch seal in the egg bag that's
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the finale he did it last night yeah and
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he gave some caveats to that too and he said it's so funny apple you know apple
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is such a you know trillion dollar company but they made apple watches to be
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so easily stealable he's like no doubt literally just flick it and the whole
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thing comes off so he's very grateful for that but he did say if you're going to do watch deals.
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That comes with knowing you will get caught 5% of the time and it won't feel good.
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And occasionally you will break a watch, like you will break a watch band or whatever.
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And you have to know that going into it, that could happen if you're dealing
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with people's personal items.
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So he's like, so he like does this whole thing on how to steal watches and stuff.
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But then he explains that and says, so I don't recommend stealing watches anyway. And then moves on.
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It was quite funny. I feel the same.
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I don't, I wouldn't do that because I don't want that 5% on me,
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you know, much less actually damage someone's personal property.
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Yeah. Yeah. And, um, he, he, he also does cigarette manipulation acts,
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which he probably doesn't need to do so much now, but I remember in the illusionists,
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they would open the show by doing a, you can't smoke in here thing.
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And it's while he's doing a manipulation act and then make, and like,
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he's like tonguing cigarettes and all this great stuff.
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He did a billiard ball act last night in the lecture. So he does like,
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he can, you know, manipulate billiard balls.
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And, uh, he basically said he's done it all. Like in his time,
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he's actually done hypnosis shows. He's done illusion shows.
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He's done like manipulation acts. Like he said, he had a manipulation act, but what happened was,
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oh my God, what's the gentleman who had the, he's retired now,
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but had, you know, one of the greatest Vegas shows ever that's in his era with
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Matt King and Lance Burton.
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So he said, I had a manipulation act, but every time we'd enter a competition,
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Lance Burton would come first I might come second he's
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like it kept happening so much I was like oh freaking hell all
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right but he had Yuho Jin's manipulation cards
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last night and was showing us a mini-pact
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and an ending which he does which is in his cruise ship show which I had not
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seen which is he's producing all the cards into a box and then at the end he
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puts his hand through the box turns it over and shows that it's hollow there's
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no floor to it collapses to slice shows how to make it you know,
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very easy thing that's in his online lecture notes too. You can get this guy.
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That's a great finish for a nice card minute sequence. Yeah.
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Yeah. Like it was really eyeopening how much versatility this guy has and knowledge
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aside from the things that we know about him so much. Yeah.
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Man. And one little tip he said, which I'm sure I can share with you guys because
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you can learn how to do it through his lecture notes.
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But at one point he just like he unzips his fly, reaches inside and then pulls
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out a lit match to light a prop.
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And like just talking about getting the most out of things. But he said he showed
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us a little way to rig just with
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a match box, but how to like rejig it and stuff to become a match pull.
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So it lights when you pull it out. And he's like, you know, one thing I helped
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Lance with is he's like, I used to watch his act, you know, you're the greatest
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magician in the world, but then sometimes your match weren't light.
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And what the hell? If you're all this massive magic being, why the hell can't you light a match?
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So his tip was to always have four matchsticks tied together and that's what you pull.
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So you're always guaranteed that one of them will light. therefore
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all of them will light you know every single time great tip another winner yeah
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and it looks like one match from the audience's view doesn't look like a weird
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chunky thing so that's something i do want to explore because you probably have
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two of those right just in case,
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probably if you rip and it doesn't go you want to be able to go back i've seen
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lance miss he does have a second one ready yeah yeah so if he goes it's ready
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to go for number two absolutely oh and And that's what Jeff was explaining was
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by having four match sticks in the same pool,
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you're guaranteed that at least one of them.
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Oh, I see. They're coming out of a row.
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Oh, I see. So they're not all balled up. It's like. No.
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So he uses a match book, a match book, whereas all the match sticks are already
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connected. So all you're doing is taking off four of them that are already connected
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to each other and just sort of folding it over.
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And therefore, every time you pull a group of four at once, that's what I was getting at.
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We can edit this out, I'm sure, is that it can strike at the one time. Yeah, it was tonight.
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Wait for the Theater of Magic clip where I actually use that.
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Maybe not out of my fly, because I'm sure the guys won't like me doing that
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at the Theater of Magic, but from somewhere.
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Your pubes will catch fire as well.
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That's right. That's true. We did talk about using the mirror.
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Josh has no hair on his whole body, but this fulvering, growing in his pants,
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and it'll just be a fire hazard.
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This is actually Sharpie. This is not.
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And then carrie runs into the theater and he's just
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got the the fire extinguisher on
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your nuts that'd be a fantastic yeah and
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the and the last thing he left with advice was he
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broke it down to the acronym it's stuff we've talked about but he the
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acronym of pdf which is every time you work
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with an agent be professional be dependable
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and be what's the f fabulous
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don't suck yeah hang on
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um professional adaptable and
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maybe it wasn't pdf it was something else professional adaptable and easy to
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work with i think is basically what he said like wow god damn it jeff i'm sorry
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i'd be good if the threader was like have a good memory it was yeah i know this.
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Yeah yeah yeah it was basically like yeah
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like be professional with what you do be able
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to work around what happens with the client and i
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think i mean look if anything those things yeah yeah that's right wow i was
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just listening to it on the car home uh his lecture anyway yeah do those things
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so yeah lecture was just fantastic to watch and be around and And if you're
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in Brisbane, he's doing the show for the next week.
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So Cirque Alice. It sounds like a fun show.
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I didn't even know Cirque had an Alice in Wonderland deemed show.
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Yeah. But it's killer. It kind of sprung up for the school holidays is why it's playing here.
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They have so many. I mean, in Vegas, there's like six Cirque shows here or something like that.
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There's several, you know? Beatles, Michael Jackson, O, Mad Apple...
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Ah mystere hey i'm at six already jesus
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that's yeah well well
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yeah like we say i mean like it's been it's been a really good learning experience
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for magic in the past two weeks we obviously had the assembly
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the week prior and then this week we had jeff hobson's thing and
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i think that one thing that i enjoy is sharing the
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knowledge of magic and i think one thing that you guys probably enjoy is learning
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a little bit of magic along the way which is why we wanted
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your guys to to to send us through some spitball ideas
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in which is that if there's anything that you are working on guys in the
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chat if there's a chat even put out there's a challenge if
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you're like hey i had this idea for a thing i need help i want
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you to come up with a trick using matchsticks like whatever it
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might be so go ahead put that stuff into the chat
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and we will do everything we can to use our three bold
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brains together and come up with some good magic for you guys because
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we do have one speak pipe right josh
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yeah we have one loaded up coming in from anonymous feel
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free to leave your name and where you're from when you send these in but
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if you do like being anonymous then absolutely
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do that as well and we have one it's a short one but we'll play it for you now
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hey guys love the podcast i've been thinking of a routine where you produce
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like each suit from the deck like one by one like heart, diamond, page.
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Clubs, but I haven't been able to figure out the method.
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I hope you can give it a try.
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He produced the suits. So you're producing like 13 cards at a time?
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Like if we play around with this to make it something theatrical.
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If you have a deck of cards and you say, name a suit, and they're like clubs,
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a theatrical way to go, boom, all right, we got all the clubs out.
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Well, I used to do this very early in my career when I was studying the works of Leonard Green.
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And Leonard Green has a wonderful blindfold act,
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which is part of a ted talk if you guys haven't seen it it's
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it's probably a decade old by now but it's worth
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having a look at and in this routine he basically
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has a pack of cards and he gets somebody in the audience to select a suit clubs
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heart spades or diamonds and then he and the spectators shuffle the pack together
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they shuffle everything and the cards are upside down and they're and and it's
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an absolute mess and he pulls them all together puts a blindfold on after they've
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been scattered all over the table.
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And then he finds them starting from ace to king, fully blindfolded.
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And I love that. I love that routine. So I using a mixture of his methods,
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my own and so forth, I started coming with things together.
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So I like the idea of having a pack of cards seemingly mixed and somebody nominate a suit.
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Then you've got a premise. You've kind of set something up and then there's
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something at stake there.
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So I feel as far as routining, I think that crescendos a lot better and the
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cool thing is that you've got 13 steps, meaning 13 reveals in order to be able
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to do something like that what do you guys think about that as an idea?
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Love starting with a named suit for sure. And yeah, I think the deck should be shuffled too, right?
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Maybe even spectator shuffled to make this optimal.
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So that might make things a little more challenging. But if you're going to
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produce... I interpreted the challenges and eventually all of the suits.
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But that might have been my magician brain hearing the plot differently.
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I mean, you know... Yeah, sorry, go on, Doug.
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Yeah, I have a... My friend Steve Reynolds recently showed me his version of
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this plot, which is just producing one suit.
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And he has a great take on it where he gets to the queen and he misses.
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But it happens to be the queen of a different color.
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And then all of the other cards change to match that one.
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So if there's the ace of diamonds, two of diamonds, ten of diamonds,
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jack of diamonds, and the queen of spades, oh man, oh well, we'll just make
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the rest spades and finish with the king of spades.
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And so now it's a magician in trouble, which really brings a plot that starts
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to get a little bit dry by the time you produce the 12th card and then hits
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him out of left field. So great.
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Steve Reynolds and his most recent publication has that production in it.
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So, you know, if you're a serious student, go to Steve Reynolds,
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magic.com and you're welcome, Steve.
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I also, I think that, I think that the reason you should nominate a single suit
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and have it going along is that when you have four suits, there's going to be
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this notion that you can't quite remember or like, which one are you up to now?
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Not everyone has in their brain that, oh, we'll just go bridge chase order,
25:08
you know, clubs, hearts, spades, diamonds.
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Like, I feel like there's going to be this level of confusion,
25:11
which will just take away from the entertainment might be impressive to go,
25:14
oh, I shuffle the deck and we'll go clubs, hearts, spades, diamonds.
25:19
And he just sort of makes a pile of Club Heart Spade's diamonds and produces
25:22
all the aces first, then all the twos, then all the threes, and so on.
25:27
I just think that that...
25:29
I mean, that's the cleanest way I can see visually representing it,
25:33
but I just feel like it's not that entertaining.
25:35
So I actually did a version of this plot along those lines, and here's what
25:40
I did. I shuffled the deck clearly.
25:42
The deck is shuffled. I cut the deck into four piles.
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There's an ace at the face of each pile, and then you spread each pile,
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and it's the suits segregated into four different piles.
25:53
So not only have I cut to the aces, but the deck is back in new deck order. Well, that's cool.
25:59
This accomplished was fall shuffles and basically different crimps,
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breather crimps on different portions of the quarters.
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You know, you can do basically two on the edges, two on the ends.
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So if you did want to cut and produce all four suits, there's an option.
26:17
Cut to the aces and then below the aces are all the suits.
26:21
Yeah, almost like an out of this world plot. When you think about it,
26:24
it's like out of this world by four as opposed to just doing a red black separation.
26:27
That could be interesting plot as well but if I someone's.
26:34
Yeah yeah definitely definitely but that's what I was sort of like that's like
26:37
one way to present it I think so that it's more rapid fire but if I were going
26:41
to out of this universe that's the credit out of this universe,
26:47
I think it's Mark Calabrese has a really cool gimmick in which you can kind
26:53
of openly over table wash stuff Yeah, he does.
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Yeah, I have that thing somewhere. Yeah, I don't know what it's called.
27:02
They give it the mix. They do this with the deck. Yeah, but it has this amazing ability.
27:08
Like, this utility that you add to your deck effectively gives you this amazing ability to be able to.
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Maintain a slug of cards i think 13 would
27:17
would accommodate 13 doug designed for
27:21
that if i'm not mistaken yeah so this
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this is if i was going to hand over the routine it's just
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how i would do it because i can only speak for
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my for me personally because i don't know this guy's character or
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so forth but for me personally i would have the
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deck mixed up and then scattered on the table and then
27:39
i would equivocate down to that and i
27:42
would say we have the red cards the black cards which one are we going to we're going
27:44
to choose you know and then lead them down the garden
27:47
path to that equivocate thing square everything
27:51
up after i've removed you know maintain that
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slug and i can move on that that's the way i would
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do it i would do it in exactly that way and because
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you've got that slug you can produce all 13 cards at once
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you could do it incrementally you can do all different
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ways of revealing it but i think that if you wanted to make
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it entertaining i would take influences from
28:12
my calabrese using that gimmick i would take influences
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from harry lorraine and i would also definitely take a
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good look at lennox green's blindfold routine
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and i feel like great that's a great suggestion that lennox green tip yeah so
28:28
in another routine just to just add on top of here rz win in his original repertoire
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book he has a routine called lucky 13 you can see a performance of it on his Instagram.
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Like if you scroll down in his reels, you'll find a live performance with a group of people.
28:47
And essentially...
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You get the deck shuffled, then you have like, I think in the video,
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he has like four different people just grab out bunches of cards from different
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parts of the deck, and then they get stacked on top of each other.
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And then he has someone name a random suit.
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And he said, would it be impressive if that suit, like one of the cards from
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that suit is on at the top of the shuffle deck that's still remaining after you took some out.
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Imagine if like the spade you just named is at the top of this stack, turn it over.
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It's a different suit. Then he goes, oh, maybe the bottom card.
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And it's a diamond. It's like, oh, damn it. And then he spreads that whole deck
29:29
that's remaining and there's no spades in there at all.
29:32
And then you reveal after the deck was shuffled and those people pull that random
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cards and stack them, they're in numerical order with all of the suits that
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were just, that was just named. Oh, that's fascinating.
29:46
And it's in this book, and it's kind of overlooked because it is like a tabled
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card piece, which I think may be why you don't see many people doing it.
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But it threw me. I couldn't predict the premise when I watched the video.
29:59
People were freaking out at a card trick, and it seemed like pretty damn impossible.
30:04
And it was the same kind of idea from our spitball, like name a suit and you
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produce it, but it's like the audience has shuffled, pulled out all these cards,
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and somehow they've all pulled out the suit.
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We have an abundance of great ideas that have come through the chat.
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I'm going to start from the bottom up with these ones. So we can,
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because we only have 30 minutes left before we press on. So I'm going to start
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with one here from Mark Brown.
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Mark says, I'm starting to play with an idea using DFB and the one ahead principle
30:36
with tossed out paper balls to choose people.
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At the end, the three balls are opened up and contain the numbers and selection.
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I assume,
30:48
Selection of a playing card, correct? I mean, this is sounding very much like the effect called?
30:56
Tossed Out Invisible Deck Thingy by Cody Fisher. That's it. Yeah. That's it.
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Yeah. So, Mark, if there is a routine by a gentleman called Cody Fisher,
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and somebody performed this, didn't they?
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At the gala. Martin Bracist did it, yeah.
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Combined with a blank deck revealing only one printed card, which is the throw-off card.
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Exactly. Oh, man. Look at what I brought home off the shelf this weekend.
31:24
All alone. It's exactly that. Any named card is face up in the deck,
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and the rest of the cards are blank.
31:30
So, look, we're giving Trick Supply a plug here. I had a former employee in
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from Trick Supply, and he said, hey, Doug, see anything you like?
31:38
He goes, you know what I always liked was All Alone by David Regal.
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I'd never heard of this trick, so I went and grabbed it off the back.
31:44
Wow, this is diabolical, this... thing allowing any card to be produced in the
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rest or blank the i don't know that i've seen a.
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A better fully crafted gimmick deck
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than this one like i've only opened it and toyed with it for a few minutes so
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i'm not going to embarrass myself by trying it but good one along those lines
32:05
excuse me for the interruption yeah so if you integrate those two routines both
32:10
available at trick supply i imagine you know yeah get that get that plug in
32:13
even though we're not there today yeah,
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so that's called All Alone by David Riegel yeah reference oh you know what I
32:22
also brought home this we're getting two plugs in how about this one the jigsaw
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deck have y'all seen this is a good thing.
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Yeah, here, I'll crack it open and do it just for a minute. Y'all keep talking
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and people can see, you know, what's going on here.
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And then once Doug does it, let's spitball some ideas for you as well.
32:40
Yeah, just while you're doing that, Doug, there's been a further comment here
32:43
from Mark where it says it's based on Cody Fishers.
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The selection ends up, sorry, let me rephrase that.
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The selection ends is, okay, good English.
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Here we go. The selection ends is from a list of periodic table elements.
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And I say, I'll make the selection appear, which ends up being oxygen for the joke. Okay.
33:04
Okay. Look, it sounds like an idea you're figuring out. Like it's good to branch
33:09
out and try different reveals off of, instead of them, you know,
33:12
the main routine you get with Cody Fishers.
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And if that fits your theme.
33:16
Can I just say, okay, so if you, what you could have is if you're going to force
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the final outcome, you could have a selection, whether it be a playing card or something.
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And then what happens is you can show the deck the deck has all different
33:29
types of elements on the back of it and then
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the and then let's say that when they it's kind of like the what's it called
33:35
like the fill deck you know the fill deck where it's like i got all these different
33:37
names but then if you implement that idea where it's like we have carbon we
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have hydrogen we have whatever and then you go but if we look through we'll
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find the five of hearts which was,
33:50
over this way you guys and on the back of
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this card says oxygen that's
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nice yeah see there you go thanks mark
34:00
that that's a great spitball we had
34:03
one from dom he i think he was the first one i don't know if i'm jumping across
34:06
too many but dom said and great magician dom thanks for being here my friend
34:11
i'm trying to figure out i'm trying to figure out an effect where two spectators
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shuffle one deck each and then the 17th card in both decks is the same alright.
34:24
Does it have to be fully hands off,
34:29
Because if it has to be fully hands-off, then that can be kind of difficult.
34:36
Well, I guess you work on, yeah, what's possible, right?
34:39
So if it was hands-off, then, you know, you're going to need either.
34:45
All right, I got one. Here's one. Both cards are palmed before the shuffle begins.
34:51
So you have them in your hand.
34:54
They're replaced to the top, and then via the pinky count and pass are positioned at that location.
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That's a start. And that's something Dom could definitely do that.
35:03
Yeah. That's within his skill set.
35:05
So there's a few ways that I would go about doing this because I do something
35:10
out of this vein, if I may.
35:13
But what I like to do is I like to bring multiple people, not just two people shuffling this.
35:18
I think when you do it with just two people, I mean, it's cool,
35:20
but a group of people, it's great.
35:24
Yeah. how about this had we just had christian grace
35:26
talking about this idea yeah yeah here you
35:29
shuffle these and you give this person 16 cards exactly well yeah and so so
35:36
the what i would i would let's say that like you want to force an outcome all
35:40
right you could have someone choose a card and put that to the far bottom we're
35:44
going to do four piles when i explain it because this is the way i do it okay
35:46
that selection goes to the bottom.
35:48
You give spectator number one, 17 or 16 cards. Okay. That's it.
35:54
Everyone else, you give whatever.
35:56
So two and three, just give them a bunch of stuff and then make sure that the
35:59
small packet you give to the fourth person to my far right has that selection. Okay.
36:05
They can then give it a mix. You take the cards back, put them back face up
36:10
to show that they're mixed.
36:12
And then, and then to buy some more time, you can ask spectators two and three.
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Shuffle your pack together now.
36:18
And then you can take the small packet to
36:21
the person to your right so that you can give them your attention you show
36:25
them the cards go yeah just make sure like all they're not separated like
36:28
red and black and what you're doing in that moment is you're just restacking the
36:31
deck with the selection that you forced to the very
36:35
back of the pack so that you can just drop it face up and then and then
36:38
that's now in the 17th position and that's something
36:41
that i do for many different effects that
36:43
i do when i'm performing for large scale groups where i want everyone to feel like they've
36:46
mixed it because they for some reason they think they're like if i mix it you're going to struggle
36:49
i'm like i'm nick k it's not going to happen but it's
36:52
a really fun way just get the card in the
36:55
bottom quarter give someone 16 cards and
36:59
position accordingly a call we'll
37:02
get it there yeah yeah so mark
37:05
yeah so one of the one of the things i've been doing
37:08
most recently out of this vein is that i actually spell the
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cards right so what i'll do is i'll i'll
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i'll do dribble peak and i'll turn my head as i show
37:17
the card it goes in so i can see whereabouts it is
37:19
i just give it shuffle i go i cut straight to the card put
37:22
it to the bottom and then i spell the card to spectator one now so if it's nine
37:27
of nine of diamonds i just go four two that's nine of and then eight cards which
37:32
spells diamonds so i go four two eight and then i just move on like and i just
37:36
give people cards and i know that i've i've spelt their selection like it's just.
37:41
Yeah, so it's super quick and easy to do. Because the reason I'm doing it is
37:45
I hate spelling tricks. So I'm trying to create ones that I like.
37:49
I think, yeah, look, that's the outcome. That's a great outcome for Spitzman today.
37:57
Now, where I'm falling short of what Dom is asking for is that he wants it done with two decks.
38:05
So, yeah, the hiccup is getting both of those cards in the bottom quadrant of both decks.
38:11
So doing it with two decks.
38:15
How about this though? Okay. Why don't we just make it even more fun then?
38:21
You know, Steve Cohen does the one Tamariz effect in his show where he's got
38:25
two different decks and, you know, there's like four different times where the
38:29
same card ends up even though they're making choices.
38:32
Well, at the very end of his effect, the red and blue decks get shuffled together
38:37
and then there's still a coincidence.
38:39
Is there a way to have two decks shuffled
38:42
but then the last shuffles are happened
38:45
together so so that
38:48
you end up with two decks that are both mixed red and blue but somehow the 17th
38:53
card is still the red and blue matching cards so like so now you're not having
38:59
to only give the red deck to these four people then it can be like because if
39:04
you know they both have six cards each.
39:07
You can go, alright, now shuffle those red and blue cards together and then,
39:10
you know, maybe there's a way to play with it.
39:13
I don't know what it would be if you had two stripper decks and then you reverse
39:17
the selection and you do like your stack of 17 and then when you just put them together using...
39:23
There's a mathematical equation here, which I don't know off the top of my head,
39:26
but you'd have to put that card
39:28
in a certain position, give it a perfect farrow, and then when you strip,
39:31
you just spread, and then you
39:33
could actually have both cards in the 17th position of a different color.
39:40
Yeah. Yeah, see, that's fun. Could one deck be shuffled by one spectator and
39:47
the other shuffled by the rest of the audience?
39:50
I don't see why not. Let me think about that for a sec. i'm terrible with math
39:55
okay that's i appreciate your honesty that's cool.
40:01
Just use one-way force decks and you're fine
40:04
then you can just i would encourage like the cards that
40:07
you wanted to position are physically locatable by
40:10
either crimps or you know maybe they're short cards or long cards so then you
40:16
can maneuver the cards easily in the position needed you know make the card
40:20
a corner short and then after the deck shuffled you can cut it to the bottom
40:24
fourth and just do what you just said nick you know everyone shuffles you get 16,
40:29
throw them their mix call the card as needed and
40:32
you know that's so elegant yeah because i'm trying to figure out like when you
40:38
have two decks i'm trying to figure out the synergy of it and where the strength
40:42
comes from because the idea of having one deck and getting more people involved
40:47
for me creates a beautiful synergy where we're all invested.
40:50
And I'm trying to see if I can maintain that energy and that vibe for using
40:54
two packs. I just feel like it doesn't.
40:57
Doesn't sort of connect with me as much okay
41:01
how about how about this maybe this is just getting too wild
41:04
now but like what if there's something else at play here
41:07
where you've had them think of a number or it's
41:11
the serial number on a bill or their phone number
41:14
or their birthday or the date that
41:17
it is today maybe and the.
41:20
First reveal is you've had red and
41:23
blue deck shuffled then you've had some of the packs shuffled
41:26
together and stuff you've made these two mismatched things
41:29
but then the 17th card and each
41:32
one is the matching cards but then you
41:36
is there a way and maybe this is too convoluted
41:39
you spread the deck out and like you're just.
41:42
Going by the reds because now they're going
41:45
to be separated by more blue cards and then maybe the number
41:48
of red cards each time is a number
41:51
that adds up to like it there's two then
41:54
there's three so it's the 23rd of february so
41:57
like maybe the the randomness of the shuffle now
42:00
becomes actually a bigger reveal and that
42:04
that's a reason why you would have two decks in play because
42:07
now it's that feels a bit like jeopardy remember the
42:09
jeopardy routine oh right i thought
42:12
you're talking about the show uh no the routine you know the routine where
42:15
it's like you're gonna have this many cards of that many cards it's
42:18
gonna to be this of that like oh like a shuffleboard of
42:22
of the black this many are going to have spades of this many
42:24
are going to have i feel like jeopardy right right
42:28
most points yeah in a much more direct
42:31
way yeah you're right and like a shuffleboard right
42:34
that's dominant called it simon aronson shuffleboard
42:37
yes yeah yeah yeah there you go maybe that can like shuffleboard correct yeah
42:43
lots of things to play on with that yeah i'm not against using the two decks
42:49
but i don't know why you would need them dom but my advice to try moving forward
42:54
is to try it with the single deck.
42:56
Like I made mention where you just control the packets because there's something
43:01
really sexy about stacking stuff in front of spectators.
43:05
Like when you're doing it right in front of them, like it's by the way,
43:08
when we were talking about producing cards in suit order, we didn't talk about
43:13
blaze Sarah and what he's able to do with a spectator shuffle deck.
43:17
There is a reason. There's a reason we don't talk about that because in order
43:20
to perform blaze Sierra's routines, you must be blaze Sierra.
43:26
Look, I'm starting to see people attempt what he's doing.
43:30
So he has reached the tipping point. He's starting to change the scales of what
43:36
can be done with a deck of cards.
43:38
You know, shuffle deck in the new deck order within one spread through of the deck.
43:43
Speaking of changing what we do with cards, can we see this jigsaw deck?
43:48
Yeah, we can. And again, I brought a couple of things home.
43:51
I'm off Sunday and Monday, but then all I did was play tourist
43:55
in my hometown and didn't really do my homework properly so this is the jigsaw
43:59
deck by david regal and this might be the fourth time that i've ever handled
44:03
this thing i think maybe david excuse the shaking again on my desk isn't set
44:08
up yet i think david that's a spectator put this thing back together,
44:12
and i don't know i guess this is wood so it's pieces of a jigsaw puzzle that
44:17
look like a deck of cards and i guess they go back in here i recall seeing the
44:22
demo and i think he does a timing,
44:25
on necessary times to see how fast he can get it done.
44:28
Good thing I'm not doing that. I feel like this would be great for hecklers.
44:32
Like, to give them a job, you know? You know what this, I think, is good for?
44:36
It could be good for formal performance, but if you keep it on your desk at
44:40
home or, like, as a segue, you
44:44
know, from a coffee table piece into performing, that's the jigsaw deck.
44:51
Damn. That's real pretty. Yeah. Yeah, so it's, you know, it is probably what you think it is.
44:58
It's like a dove pan for the jigsaw, and I think it's as deceptive as it could
45:03
be to do what it's doing, and super easy to do, and well made.
45:08
And maybe he's mad at me for exposing the obvious right now, but.
45:13
That's the david regal jigsaw deck i'm gonna give it a b
45:16
plus just so we can leave room for improvement on version 2.0
45:19
i don't know what that would be but yeah look super practical
45:22
as an opener like yeah like you were saying could be a
45:25
good sobriety test kind of you know alluding i
45:28
mean like sometimes you know you like to have like
45:31
if you like to have have guests
45:34
to your house and something like this is just sitting on the coffee table
45:37
and they're like what's that you go it's a puzzle i see if you can
45:40
put it together and then they put it together and then bang
45:43
those are the cards and now you're off to the races to do your magics
45:46
you know it's a good social segue perhaps on
45:50
your coffee table yeah and i like the idea of using
45:52
cards in a sort of non-conventional way which kind of leads me
45:55
into a comment here from scotty p if
45:59
i may share this it says here from scotty painter
46:02
i have mini canvases card size
46:05
and mini easels which i'm not
46:08
sure how to use the idea was to leave
46:11
the participant with an artwork souvenir okay i
46:16
have some ideas because i imagine imagine a type of spirit slate type effect
46:26
where you have blank canvas which you cover with a cloth and then you can do
46:33
have a selection have them think of somewhere.
46:36
Just for the sake of explanation, let's go think of a location, right?
46:40
And they go Paris and you go cool deal. And then the handkerchief maybe does
46:44
a bit of movement, right?
46:47
And then when you move it away, that canvas is drawn straight.
46:52
On it, a Eiffel Tower, and then you can then let him keep that.
46:57
Because if we're going to be using the canvas and the easel,
47:00
it's probably going to be more of a parlor piece, and I feel like you could
47:03
do something really cool with that.
47:05
And you could probably even do it laying down. And then, yeah,
47:08
the way I would probably do it is to just have a shell-ish that would go over
47:13
what looks like the blank canvas, and then by removing that shell,
47:16
you'd have something pre-drawn underneath it.
47:18
It wouldn't have to be a shell. It could just be something as simple as something
47:21
that just covers it up, But then you would use the handkerchief to remove it
47:24
as you do the reveal afterwards.
47:27
It'd be cool if there's a way to get them to sign it first as well while it's blank.
47:32
Like maybe the shell only partially covers it and your hand,
47:36
you know, covers the seam or something.
47:38
So I'll sign the corner of it and then, you know, hold it face down.
47:42
Maybe it's some sort of out to lunch principle in which you could probably keep that portion.
47:48
Out to paint by Scott Painter.
47:54
Yeah i think that would be cool great i know
47:58
that that guy from illusionist whose name escapes me it'll come back to me at
48:03
some point he has that beautiful routine with the bottle cap that levitates
48:07
adam ulber he he had some stuff using this magical appearing ink sort of thing
48:12
i don't know how easy it would be to like give away because i imagine it'd be something.
48:18
Relatively gimmicked and and heat activated perhaps
48:21
but yeah the the idea
48:24
of just being able to remove something from a seemingly blank canvas and then
48:29
give it to someone that would be cool there is the friction pin if you use friction
48:33
pin ink on a piece of paper and apply heat to it it vanishes and you can combine
48:37
that ink with regular ink and just the friction ink vanishes is leaving the regular ink behind.
48:44
There's been a bit of exploration in that realm with that pen.
48:48
Yeah that's a great idea too with the friction yeah i
48:51
wonder and obviously you know canvases are
48:54
quite porous so you experiment how easily
48:57
that ink can still disappear i think
49:01
that's great yeah i know that i
49:04
know there's like texture based stuff there's normally like friction pens but i
49:06
do believe it's friction texters which i've used in the past and
49:10
they're really so the friction pen is an ink
49:13
that when heat is applied to it it just vanishes so
49:16
you can write things and then by putting a lighter
49:19
underneath this piece of paper ever so it just vanishes in front
49:21
of your eyes and it looks crazy crazy magical being able
49:25
to give that out it would be semi gimmick
49:28
which wouldn't be the worst thing i don't know if a switch would
49:31
need to be implemented maybe in which you you go
49:34
to your case and you grab a ziploc bag to keep it
49:36
in or something like that i don't know if that would be very elegant to
49:39
do or you know to give someone a canvas but ultimately
49:42
the worst case scenario is that you give somebody a
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gimmicked canvas and they're walking
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back to the car when it's cold and then the inquiry appears because
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that will happen like if you put that if you
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put that back in the fridge the whole canvas will go black you know what i mean
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i didn't think about that that's funny yeah that's funny i mean that's even
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as they get a second effect out of that you know yeah we also have mark brown
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here he mentioned uh you could also use the principle of having what he's written is a dried out sharpie.
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Have them think they're sketching something with it face down.
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And then the predicted thing you mentioned is actually written or drawn into
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their scribble when you reveal.
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And this is a product that we talked about with our guest, Nicholas Lawrence, in a previous episode.
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He brought out a sharpie that can be
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gimmicked in on the on the fly you can rig in to make it not work and then make
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it work so that there's nothing there's no heat on the actual sharpie itself
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but that obviously is another ploy you could you could go in once you've switched
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it you have them creating the scribble or the prediction,
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i like it a lot i like it.
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These are great ideas. You know what? I should be bringing ideas from my show
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in and then spit-pulling it to make my own show better because I love the group
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hive of thinking that comes out of it.
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Yeah, I was – I think – have I mentioned this on the pod before about talking
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about an uncheatable deck?
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I don't think so. All right. So we've got a couple of minutes to wrap this episode up with.
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But I was – I've got a friend of mine. His name is Nathan Hickey, and he works for COS.
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Uh love nathan actually he's a good good good
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guy good care love this guy immensely and he's he he's a magician but also a
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blackjack dealer and i thought there's a funny dichotomy there and when we're
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in vegas this is many years ago where we came up with this funny idea of like
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you know when people say things to you like oh i'd love to take you to the casino,
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this is the whole premise of the routine that i'm putting together now and i've
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i've i'll share some ideas that i've got with it but it's very fun so here's
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what i've got so far the premise is people say that oh you know you'd be great
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to go to the casino with so we can like and i go but people don't know this
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like you can't cheat with the cards of the casino they're uncheatable decks.
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Like what do you mean i'll give you an example then like you pull out like a
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like a jerry jerry nugs casino sort of thing and i'll give you a quick example
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let's say they say stop all right and you show to them the card which is the
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seven of hearts right but then when i look at it it changes to the nine of clubs
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because you can't cheat with this deck and every time you cheat,
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there's cameras you'll get busted look and then i
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want to have a camera go flash and take a photograph in that
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moment like all these unsuspected photographs like every time because there's
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cameras and you can't cheat and then i was going to do examples like i tell
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you what so let's just put there like there's like five of us playing i'm going
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to take this card face up so you can see what i'm doing you put in the fifth
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position and you start dealing to everyone then when you get to that card you
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want to try cheat and deal to yourself so as you're dealing to so you're just
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doing second deals to yourself,
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and you just can't, no matter how hard you try, you can't deal to yourself and
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then I want to use that split gimmick where you go like this and then it splits into like.
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Like a three splits into a ace and a two sort of thing, you know,
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like I just do all this really crazy stuff.
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And then I want to explain to them like, oh, with this branded deck,
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when you cheat so many times, it locks itself and you give someone just a block
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of cards that have been all glued together.
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And you got to put it back in the deck to sort of reset. And now if you try
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to take the deck out and you just mime that the deck is stuck in there and then
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you bring it out about like about halfway like this, you know, like about that much.
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And you're like, yeah. And then if you tap the box this looks so cool watch
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this and you try to tap tap the just and they just go.
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And and so and it's just really funny like
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what and so yeah so i've got about like 13 ideas which i've got individually
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created but i'm gonna routine them so i can try and crescendo them i don't the
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biggest problem for me is that as far as direction goes is i don't know what makes,
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this routine kicker i
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don't know what's going to make it a kicker i don't know if maybe like
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you gotta you gotta like reset the deck
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and then you do a thing in which like you spread
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the deck and all the numbers all the pips are
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gone and it just says cheetah cheetah cheetah cheetah cheetah like
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i don't know what is going to be the ultimate crescendo for
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this plot because i think the plot's cool and i think it's a very unique and
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original idea of like you can't cheat with these decks and I feel like in anyone
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else's hands but mine it would be 50,000 times better but I got to sort of get
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this ball rolling on this plot in order to inspire at the very least.
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But how it ends, how it ends. Maybe there's a sum of cash that vanishes at the
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end, insinuating that, you know, you win money, but don't get to keep it.
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It takes it away from just the cards, but, you know, it kind of is a.
54:53
That's an interesting plot because I did play with the idea of implementing
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chips into the equation. And what I did with this was you have a dealer chip
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and the dealer chip knows who's dealing.
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So if I have the dealer chip, I can't cheat. but
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if i give them the dealership i i can and
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then you have this whole idea where i've got this routine where
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we're playing blackjack which is it's okay but we're playing blackjack and i
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say who do you want to win and you go like i want you to win i go great but
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then you're the dealer and then they deal and i win every hand and then if they
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change their mind i just just without touching the deck and it's all in their
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hands just by me changing the dealership.
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Says who's going to win so like that's another cool premise but i think if i was gonna do stuff
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with the chips it might be the type of thing where like and then i win your
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chips and i just keep winning everyone's chips and then maybe i'll take all the chips
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into my hats and you know
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and i give them a juggle like this a little chink chink chink and then when
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i turn them upside down there's nothing in there and i maybe that
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you get a box like the jeff hobson box every time you
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get chips you put them in it could be a dealer's toke or
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something like that and then you open it up and it's something like that yeah
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so maybe that's my kicker but i don't i don't know what the ultimate
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kicker is like i don't know you know
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other than having security guards come and take me away i can't really think
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of any entirely hilarious to to really end the routine with but i like this
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premise a lot and because it's so new i don't know where to take it but it's
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effectively it's for me a fun way to show gambling demonstrations.
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That don't kind of work or work so well that you, you know what I mean?
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Like, yeah, I love it. I love it. Actually.
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It's fun, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So let's read out just a couple of,
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just, just the comments of our fellow listeners.
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So Mark said you could do Franco Pascali's lay down move where you take the
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four aces out of the deck, but then they changed to four random cards.
56:50
Great move. We have the magic buzz. He sanded, he said, And the ending could
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be that you're handcuffed to the deck at the end. Okay, that's a good one.
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Scott Link says, what if at the end you need to replace the batteries and you
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reopen the card box and batteries fall out?
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That's also on my list. It's part of the dead cell routine by Danny Garcia.
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I've got that one on my list too. Yep, it's a beautiful idea.
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And then we have Ifuj says, it could be a lucky charm.
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So maybe the dealer's token, every time the person with that charm always wins.
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That's another fun premise yeah and if you cheat the charm vanishes lots of
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fun things to play around with you know all the cards could turn into the faces
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could be the monopoly go to jail card you know like go to jail go directly to jail collect $200,
57:39
don't collect $200 for god's sakes yeah yeah I look forward to seeing how you
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know where it ends up in your in your show when you consider the Chinese pagoda
57:52
boxes There's a big fan of the routine. Oh, that's it.
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That's it.
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These are Trick Supplies new Sponge Bunnies, by the way. We're going to be releasing
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these. Probably shouldn't even be showing these right now. They look...
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Familiar yeah they are
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not the amar bunnies but they are in the ballpark yeah
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i'll talk about that more soon you know
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what i have some of those but they're in my box over there but because
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i don't use them you know what's really interesting josh doesn't
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do the best magic i know yeah out
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of the period of the great caplan which we did also the
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great kreskin which we spoke about weeks prior it would
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be interesting to actually like bet the fortune of
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the of what i'm getting paid for the event to do a real proper
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maverick moment where you know
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it's like one card one
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card ace of spades whoever gets it wins or if i get below your card you get
58:54
to take my entire paycheck like to do something like that like and and just
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really and like it's just like give them my full Crestwood treatment and make
59:04
and really build the tension of like, it goes in the table,
59:08
you sit there and then you can kind of, like you nail it.
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And then you just put that check back in your pocket. Like that could be interesting.
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I love it. Look, so many great thoughts.
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We, you know, I don't know why we don't do these speedball episodes more often
59:21
because it genuinely helps my magic.
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But it's been great chatting to you all. Look, what a fun-filled episode.
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Thank you all for joining us. Now, we normally do a final word where one of
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us reflects on something we talked about today,
59:36
but because I went to the Jeff Hobson lecture last night, I asked if he would
59:43
kindly give us the final word for this episode.
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Now, it is quick because it was in amongst a lot of people trying to buy stuff from him,
59:50
but please enjoy Jeff Hobson's
59:54
final way so the
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word of wisdom or words of wisdom i think the real secret to success is finding
1:00:04
out how other people the public perceive you as an entertainer so that you can
1:00:11
then present yourself in the best light possible and know who you really are,
1:00:18
thanks for listening it's time for us to disappear now But we'll see you again
1:00:25
on the next episode of The Magic Guys.