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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Two Pretty for jail. Yeah,
- 0:18Speaker 1: that is the defense too pretty to go to jail?
- 0:24Speaker 1: And guess what, it's not the first time that I'm
- 0:27Speaker 1: too pretty to go to jail has actually been uttered
- 0:30Speaker 1: in court now. In this case, it starts with skipping
- 0:34Speaker 1: out on a Chilies bill. Have you ever been to Chilies?
- 0:38Speaker 1: They're awesome. Some people call it fast food. It's not.
- 0:42Speaker 1: It's much more than that. But that Chili's bill just
- 0:49Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
- 0:53Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at
- 0:55Speaker 1: Fox Nation and Serious x one eleven. How did the
- 0:58Speaker 1: whole oddyssey began? Take a less to our friends at Klas.
- 1:03Speaker 1: Bostami was arrested at Harry Reid Airport in August after
- 1:07Speaker 1: skipping out on her restaurant check, threatening to spit on officers,
- 1:10Speaker 1: and claiming she was being arrested for being too pretty.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Unusual interactions, neighbors say, we're all too common. She would
- 1:17Speaker 1: come outside and literally spinning her driveway singing songs. She
- 1:22Speaker 1: was wanted for skipping out on a Chili's tab at
- 1:25Speaker 1: read International Airport, but per the arrest report, she claims
- 1:29Speaker 1: she was being harassed because cops had never seen anyone
- 1:32Speaker 1: as pretty as her. This is hen Bustami, who was
- 1:36Speaker 1: arrested near baggage Claim last week. Turns out she had
- 1:39Speaker 1: an arrest warrant from Las Vegas Municipal Court. Bustami was
- 1:42Speaker 1: uncooperative while being detained. She was later booked into Clark
- 1:46Speaker 1: County Detention Center. Two pretty for jail. Well, of course
- 1:52Speaker 1: it's not the first time we've heard that before, but
- 1:55Speaker 1: just hold this thought just a moment, too pretty for
- 1:58Speaker 1: jail joining us David Charns, investigative reporter k l AS
- 2:03Speaker 1: eight News, Now, that's not pretty threatening to spit on
- 2:08Speaker 1: or spitting on a cop and crapping out on your
- 2:12Speaker 1: chili's bill. What's pretty about that? What we saw in
- 2:16Speaker 1: that arrest report that we obtained someone who was hanging
- 2:19Speaker 1: out at the airport. You know, Las Vegas is a
- 2:22Speaker 1: busy place. People are coming in and out all the time.
- 2:26Speaker 1: We get reports all the time of people doing things
- 2:28Speaker 1: at the airport. But this one sort of stood out
- 2:30Speaker 1: a little because on page two it said she refused
- 2:35Speaker 1: to be arrested or she was getting arrested because she
- 2:37Speaker 1: was too pretty, and the whole reason police started talking
- 2:42Speaker 1: to her. Was because she reportedly skipped out on that bill.
- 2:45Speaker 1: David Charns joining US investigative reporter k l S eight.
- 2:50Speaker 1: You know, you think if you're going to commit a crime,
- 2:54Speaker 1: you wouldn't do it at, for instance, a casino, or
- 2:58Speaker 1: at FBI headquarters in Quan, a co or at an
- 3:01Speaker 1: airport where there are surveillance cameras everywhere you turn. But
- 3:06Speaker 1: she did. She skipped out on a chili's bill. Now,
- 3:09Speaker 1: let me understand something was the chilies inside the airport.
- 3:12Speaker 1: The chilies was inside the airport, and there are a
- 3:15Speaker 1: lot of police who walked through the airport. It's a
- 3:18Speaker 1: busy place, millions of millions of people a year, and
- 3:23Speaker 1: this was just someone who was doing some strange behaviors
- 3:27Speaker 1: and police went up and wanted to talk to her.
- 3:29Speaker 1: It turns out she was the sud thief. I wonder
- 3:32Speaker 1: what she ordered. Guys, again, this is not the first
- 3:35Speaker 1: time we've heard the I'm too pretty defense? Does the
- 3:39Speaker 1: name Lauren cut sharing Abelle Let's our friends at Inside Edition.
- 3:43Speaker 1: She said she was just too pretty to go to jail.
- 3:46Speaker 1: When she was arrested for do you want I'm a
- 3:48Speaker 1: pretty girl? Please go in there, and now it seems
- 3:52Speaker 1: a judge agrees. Thirty four year old Lauren Cutshaw is
- 3:56Speaker 1: being given a sweet deal, no jail time, and she
- 3:59Speaker 1: even gets to keep her driver's license. Countsha, a real
- 4:02Speaker 1: estate agent from South Carolina, was pulled over after comp's
- 4:05Speaker 1: state she blew through a stump sign going more than
- 4:08Speaker 1: twice the speed limit. Put an okay, she was DUI
- 4:16Speaker 1: blows to a stop sign, but the judge actually let
- 4:20Speaker 1: her off. I guess he also thought she was too pretty.
- 4:23Speaker 1: Did you hear her whining? I guess in the seat
- 4:27Speaker 1: of her car. I'm a pretty girl. Please don't make
- 4:29Speaker 1: me go in there. Boo hoo woman, Well, let's take
- 4:33Speaker 1: a listen to more her browdy whining on the way
- 4:35Speaker 1: to jail went viral last year. Graduating for a while
- 4:40Speaker 1: really good university, No one was almost able. The Korean
- 4:45Speaker 1: graduated with three point eight. My guys going on getting
- 4:49Speaker 1: his scarship to my college. You're on the owner, good cheerleader,
- 4:55Speaker 1: I mean a beat the wholife. Don't do to jail.
- 4:59Speaker 1: I'm pretty cal all pleased to be going there. We're
- 5:03Speaker 1: now learning she has pled guilty to mister meaner duy.
- 5:06Speaker 1: She was find one hundred and eighty seven dollars in
- 5:09Speaker 1: order to perform twenty four hours community service and take
- 5:12Speaker 1: alcohol safety classes. Okay, let's make sure I understand this.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Joining me kirk Nermi, legal analyst and former league counsel
- 5:20Speaker 1: too none other than miss Jody Arius, who was called
- 5:26Speaker 1: a bombshell Gorgias, sexy, seductive, blah blah blah. He's author
- 5:33Speaker 1: of Trapped with Miss Arius and you can find them
- 5:37Speaker 1: on Twitter and Insta at Nurmi. Unshane kirk Nurmi, your
- 5:41Speaker 1: client is also guilty of thinking she was too pretty
- 5:47Speaker 1: to be prosecuted. That she just believed everybody's going to
- 5:50Speaker 1: fall for her line about the murder of Travis Alexander
- 5:55Speaker 1: line and sinker because she was attractive. Other people think
- 5:58Speaker 1: she's attractive, not me, but apparently she did too. What
- 6:02Speaker 1: about it an army, Well, let me tell you. I
- 6:05Speaker 1: think one thing I see with a lot of femail
- 6:07Speaker 1: criminals when they've heard it just here in the tape
- 6:09Speaker 1: you just played as a level of narcissi that they
- 6:12Speaker 1: believe that they should be able to get away with
- 6:14Speaker 1: anything in their excuses will hold water, and when they
- 6:17Speaker 1: start to not hold water, they become the victim of
- 6:20Speaker 1: their own actions and don't realize or don't think that
- 6:23Speaker 1: anyone's going to hold them to account. I think we
- 6:26Speaker 1: see that over and over again with a lot of
- 6:28Speaker 1: these female Karen started joining me. H now psychologists joining
- 6:31Speaker 1: us out of Manhattan at Karen dot com. That's Karen
- 6:34Speaker 1: with a C. Karen, have you seen those studies? I
- 6:38Speaker 1: have the show When a defendant or a person in general,
- 6:42Speaker 1: not necessarily criminal defendant are attractive, they get better treatment,
- 6:47Speaker 1: just like that Braddy woman Cutshaw you here whining I
- 6:51Speaker 1: had a three point eight average. I was a cheerleader.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Don't see me in jail. I'm a pretty girl. They
- 6:56Speaker 1: actually do get away with it. Well, people who are
- 7:00Speaker 1: good looking to get away with a lot more than
- 7:03Speaker 1: other people. Nancy, what you have here, and remember it
- 7:06Speaker 1: was the same covering. Jody is somebody who has a
- 7:11Speaker 1: narcissist without a doubt and has such a strong sense
- 7:14Speaker 1: of entitlement, and that's not uncommon. I mean, she really
- 7:19Speaker 1: fits the textbook where she's preoccupied with fantasies of beauty
- 7:24Speaker 1: and believes that she's special and she needs admiration, envious
- 7:28Speaker 1: of others, and believes that they're envious of her. It
- 7:31Speaker 1: all fits who this person is, and she's dangerous because
- 7:36Speaker 1: she feels that she's a buzzer. Just a quick question.
- 7:40Speaker 1: You and Nermie are throwing around the term narcissistic, which
- 7:43Speaker 1: of course is named after the mythological character of Narcissus
- 7:49Speaker 1: who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool.
- 7:54Speaker 1: But didn't Narcissus die in the end of the story.
- 7:58Speaker 1: What happened to Narcissus at the end of that? Does
- 8:01Speaker 1: anybody know? I mean, Karen start you throw around the
- 8:05Speaker 1: term narcissistic all the time, but Sidney has just refreshed
- 8:09Speaker 1: my recollection. Narcissus died staring into his own reflection, and
- 8:17Speaker 1: it reminds me of the mirror of Earra said and
- 8:21Speaker 1: Harry Potter, where you see yourself and your deepest desires,
- 8:26Speaker 1: your see yourself as you want to be, and people
- 8:30Speaker 1: look at it so long they just starved to death
- 8:32Speaker 1: and die. They can't leave it. So my point is,
- 8:36Speaker 1: Kurt Narmy, let's talk about Jodi Arius, your client for
- 8:40Speaker 1: much longer than you wanted, so attached to her looks.
- 8:45Speaker 1: I remember she's charged with murder in the States, seeking
- 8:48Speaker 1: the death penalty. She gives an interview against your wishes,
- 8:54Speaker 1: and she's caught on camera putting on face powder and lipstick.
- 8:58Speaker 1: She's worried about her face powder when she's looking at
- 9:04Speaker 1: death by the needle, She's staring into the mirror literally
- 9:11Speaker 1: to her death. I mean, did she ever try to
- 9:14Speaker 1: use her charms her beauty on you? And did it work?
- 9:19Speaker 1: Let's be honest just a little bit. Well, I don't
- 9:21Speaker 1: know if she tried, but I certainly know it didn't work, Nancy,
- 9:24Speaker 1: because the nice didn't know somebody to kill her any
- 9:26Speaker 1: charms or fallen by the wayside. But you're right, you know,
- 9:30Speaker 1: and we talked about narcissism. Image was always very important
- 9:34Speaker 1: in this areas. You talked about the clothing, the interviews.
- 9:37Speaker 1: It actually predated my ten year as a lawyer. But yeah,
- 9:40Speaker 1: that was always a big deal to her. And I
- 9:43Speaker 1: think that flows along with this idea of this narcissistic
- 9:47Speaker 1: female criminal that we were talking about here today Time
- 10:01Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. Lisa Daddio joining us for a
- 10:07Speaker 1: police lieutenant Newhaven PD and now the Director of the
- 10:11Speaker 1: Center for Advanced Policing and Graduate Program coordinator University New
- 10:16Speaker 1: Haven Investigation program, Lisa, thank you for being with us.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Lisa talking about being beautiful and using that as a weapon,
- 10:26Speaker 1: believing that you are somehow immune to prosecution. You don't
- 10:32Speaker 1: have to go to jail because you're so pretty. It's
- 10:34Speaker 1: not pretty to spit on police officers. Have you ever
- 10:37Speaker 1: been spat on? Thankfully no, but I've had a lot
- 10:42Speaker 1: of cops. Practically every cop I know, somebody is spit
- 10:45Speaker 1: on this. Well, what I was going to say is
- 10:47Speaker 1: I haven't been, but my partner who had responded with me,
- 10:50Speaker 1: had been, and so you know, Nancy, it's one of
- 10:54Speaker 1: those things that is just so despicable. So whether or
- 10:57Speaker 1: not you think you're so pretty and so beautiful, you
- 11:00Speaker 1: should not have to play the consequences. Spitting on somebody
- 11:04Speaker 1: speaks volumes about the type of person you are on
- 11:08Speaker 1: the inside. I was talking about Cutshaw earlier than one.
- 11:12Speaker 1: You hear whining about her how beautiful she is and
- 11:14Speaker 1: her three point eight great average as she was a
- 11:17Speaker 1: cheerleader in college. Well it worked on a judge, believe
- 11:20Speaker 1: it or not. But I would have to say the
- 11:23Speaker 1: all time winner for I'm Too Pretty for Jail would
- 11:26Speaker 1: have to be Deborah LaFave charged with child molestation. Take
- 11:34Speaker 1: a listen to our friends at crime Online. An argument
- 11:36Speaker 1: made in a Florida court room by Deborah La Fave's attorney,
- 11:39Speaker 1: John Fitzgibbons led to most of the too Pretty for
- 11:43Speaker 1: Jail headlines that ran with most of the news coverage
- 11:45Speaker 1: of her case. Fitzgibbons said in court to place Debbie
- 11:49Speaker 1: into a federal state women's penitentiary, to place an attractive
- 11:53Speaker 1: young woman in that kind of hell hole is like
- 11:56Speaker 1: putting a piece of raw meat and with the lions. Okay,
- 11:59Speaker 1: so she is supposed to be treated differently than everybody else.
- 12:03Speaker 1: I can distinctly remember a photo in which dev Devil
- 12:08Speaker 1: Faith posed in a bikini. I think she's straddling a
- 12:13Speaker 1: motorcycle hog possibly Yeah, Okay that said, Take a listen
- 12:19Speaker 1: to more from our friends at Daily Mail. Debra La
- 12:22Speaker 1: Faith Aflorida a high school English teacher who had sex
- 12:25Speaker 1: with her fourteen year old student. One year later, she
- 12:28Speaker 1: played guilty to two counts of loud and lascivious behavior
- 12:31Speaker 1: involving a minor. The public outcry was tremendous twenty four
- 12:35Speaker 1: years old at the time, but Faith blamed her actions
- 12:38Speaker 1: on being bipolar and hypersexualized, claiming she had been raped
- 12:43Speaker 1: when she was a teen. Her attorney famously told to
- 12:45Speaker 1: judge she was too pretty for prison. In the end,
- 12:49Speaker 1: La Faith played guilty to lud and lascivious behavior. She
- 12:53Speaker 1: was sentenced to just three years house arrest, but branded
- 12:57Speaker 1: a sex offender. You know there was a teacher arrested
- 13:01Speaker 1: two days after me, and I saw her on TV one.
- 13:04Speaker 1: So why do you think you've got all the attention?
- 13:08Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll say it. Do you think it's
- 13:12Speaker 1: because you're pretty? I think so? And sell The other
- 13:19Speaker 1: teacher probably didn't make headlines because she was repentant. She
- 13:24Speaker 1: felt bad about what had happened. She was remorseful, and
- 13:28Speaker 1: she also didn't say I'm too pretty for jail. You
- 13:32Speaker 1: were hearing not only our friends and Inside Edition, but
- 13:34Speaker 1: also our friends at today's show. Debla Fabe is a
- 13:40Speaker 1: child predator, and yet she is saying she's being punished
- 13:48Speaker 1: because she's pretty much the same way as him. Bistami
- 13:54Speaker 1: is right now, and it's not just about a chili's bill.
- 14:00Speaker 1: What's that thirty forty dollars? I want to take a
- 14:04Speaker 1: listen to what this is all about. Why is this happening,
- 14:09Speaker 1: and why is it working? Another thing? You heard our
- 14:13Speaker 1: friend Jesse Palmer at Daily Mill state she had sex
- 14:16Speaker 1: with a student. You can't have sex with a minor.
- 14:22Speaker 1: That is statutory rape because a minor is not, under
- 14:26Speaker 1: the law able to give consent. And I want to
- 14:31Speaker 1: go to you, Kurtnermy, you're the high profile lawyer. Why
- 14:34Speaker 1: is it that a minor, anyone under the age of consent,
- 14:38Speaker 1: which in many states is eighteen, Why can't a minor
- 14:42Speaker 1: have consensual sex with an adult? Same reason we don't
- 14:47Speaker 1: issue them a driver's license or the right to smoke,
- 14:50Speaker 1: or the right to drink is because they're not developed
- 14:52Speaker 1: enough to make their own solid choices. And so different
- 14:56Speaker 1: states have different regulations regarding the age of content. They
- 14:59Speaker 1: vary for state, but each state makes that moral choice
- 15:02Speaker 1: of when a person who is able to make an
- 15:04Speaker 1: informed decision in that regard. Yeah, I'm too pretty for
- 15:07Speaker 1: jail defense seemingly worked. And trust me, it's not just
- 15:12Speaker 1: women that are making this claim. Take listen to our
- 15:15Speaker 1: Frank Gloria Gomez Fox thirteen. It inspired a movement, You're
- 15:19Speaker 1: too Cute I follow in love with a criminal? On
- 15:22Speaker 1: social media. Several Allan's reporting that a number of people
- 15:25Speaker 1: talk about his eye is calling him too cute. The
- 15:27Speaker 1: hashtag justice for Cameron Harron and Free Cameron would trend
- 15:32Speaker 1: on Twitter and TikTok. Harron's attorney denies he or his
- 15:36Speaker 1: client's family had anything to do with it. Check experts
- 15:40Speaker 1: say some Twitter accounts are legit, while others are actually
- 15:44Speaker 1: Internet bots. Harron is appealing the judges sentence, calling it excessive,
- 15:49Speaker 1: too cute for jail, I fell in love with a criminal,
- 15:53Speaker 1: Too cute for jail. Hashtag justice for Cameron Harron and
- 15:57Speaker 1: free Cameron because he's quote cute. You know what Cameron
- 16:01Speaker 1: Herron did? Well listen our friend's WTSP. Please say. This
- 16:05Speaker 1: Mustang was speeding northbound along Base Shore in a race
- 16:08Speaker 1: against another car when it hit twenty four year old
- 16:11Speaker 1: Jessica ry Singer as she was pushing a stroller with
- 16:14Speaker 1: her twenty one month old baby. Now, the driver of
- 16:17Speaker 1: that car and the driver of the Nissan it was
- 16:19Speaker 1: racing they did stay at the scene, but it was
- 16:22Speaker 1: too late for that mom. She and her baby were
- 16:23Speaker 1: taken to TGH not far from the scene, where the
- 16:26Speaker 1: mom was pronounced dead. Now the baby is still alive,
- 16:30Speaker 1: but she is really fighting to survive. Yet a movement
- 16:34Speaker 1: ensued online. Now this is after the mom is mowed
- 16:39Speaker 1: down dead and the baby, the baby's life hanging in
- 16:42Speaker 1: the balance at intensive care. I still say he got
- 16:46Speaker 1: a sweetheart deal. Take a little an hour cut twelve.
- 16:49Speaker 1: Cameron Herron would decide to do an open plea and
- 16:52Speaker 1: let the judge decide his fate. The judge had the
- 16:57Speaker 1: final say, So I count one vehicular homicide. The court's
- 17:02Speaker 1: going to adjudicate the defending guilty, sends him to nine
- 17:06Speaker 1: years in the Florida Steep Prison. On account two same charge,
- 17:10Speaker 1: court will the judicate the defending guilty sends him to
- 17:13Speaker 1: fifteen years Florida Steep Prison. So on a fifteen years sentence,
- 17:17Speaker 1: he'll be out in about seven eight years. Yet his
- 17:21Speaker 1: lawyer insists that that was much too harsh for a
- 17:26Speaker 1: client as cute as Cameron Herron. Okay, back to the
- 17:31Speaker 1: current case and as a backdrop the movement of too
- 17:36Speaker 1: cute for jail. You know, to you, Lisa Daddio, when
- 17:40Speaker 1: you deal with cases like Herron's where you see a
- 17:43Speaker 1: mom and a stroller mowed down on the side of
- 17:46Speaker 1: the road and then you have a petition online claiming
- 17:52Speaker 1: the defendant is too cute for jail, and you've got
- 17:55Speaker 1: the little baby and nick you gasping for life. I mean,
- 18:00Speaker 1: how does that make you feel? As the arresting officer.
- 18:02Speaker 1: It's infuriating and it makes me pause and think, what
- 18:06Speaker 1: the heck is wrong with this country when you have
- 18:09Speaker 1: that kind of mentality that it's an excuse why somebody
- 18:14Speaker 1: shouldn't be held responsible for the horror that they've inflicted
- 18:20Speaker 1: on the victims, the families, witnesses, everybody. No David Turns
- 18:24Speaker 1: joining me, investigated a reporter k l AS eight News.
- 18:28Speaker 1: Now I'm looking at the current case Handbastami in her twenties.
- 18:34Speaker 1: She is pretty. Even I who never think any defendant
- 18:38Speaker 1: is pretty or attractive, I've got to say I think
- 18:42Speaker 1: she is. I think she's attractive. She's got long, beautiful
- 18:48Speaker 1: dark hair, big brown eyes, perfect perfect eyebrows, and a
- 18:53Speaker 1: perfect mouth. I mean, it looks like somebody drew it
- 18:58Speaker 1: on and it's all now natural. So where did this
- 19:02Speaker 1: woman get the idea? Here she is in a swimsuit. Okay, yeah,
- 19:07Speaker 1: somebody's been spending a lot of time at the gym.
- 19:10Speaker 1: So David Charns, Where does this come from? I'm too
- 19:14Speaker 1: pretty for jail. Do we know that Henboostami worked as
- 19:17Speaker 1: a DJ in the Las Vegas area. I believe she's
- 19:21Speaker 1: originally from California, came to Las Vegas with her family,
- 19:26Speaker 1: definitely lives a lifestyle here where she knows a lot
- 19:29Speaker 1: of people. We heard from from past colleagues and friends
- 19:33Speaker 1: who say, you know sort of what you're alluding to.
- 19:36Speaker 1: She's a girl who likes to have fun. We know
- 19:39Speaker 1: that she had a battery charge several months ago at
- 19:42Speaker 1: a nightclub, So I think someone who's young and free
- 19:46Speaker 1: and enjoys, you know, living her life here. Oh wait
- 19:49Speaker 1: a minute, wait at a battery charge at a bar
- 19:51Speaker 1: for what? She has? A battery charge? That was that
- 19:56Speaker 1: original warrant, which is what police were talking to her
- 20:00Speaker 1: about at the airport. Tell me about the battery incident.
- 20:03Speaker 1: So what we know about the battery right now? And
- 20:06Speaker 1: those court documents are are are hard to find and
- 20:09Speaker 1: they're they're looking for them. She was actually charged with
- 20:14Speaker 1: battery for getting to some sort of argument with security
- 20:19Speaker 1: out an events space here in Las Vegas back in June.
- 20:23Speaker 1: And I don't know the exact specifics. Other than she
- 20:27Speaker 1: was charged with battery, and then she went to court,
- 20:31Speaker 1: and then she missed court this summer. Can I just
- 20:33Speaker 1: analyze what David Charns joining us from KLA KLAS eight said, Um,
- 20:43Speaker 1: Catherine Maloney is joining me deput Chief Medical examin out
- 20:46Speaker 1: of Erie County at Saint Buffalo. She's at Nicol City
- 20:50Speaker 1: Forensics dot Com. Now think about this woman hand Bushtami
- 20:55Speaker 1: too pretty for jail. She's at an event where they
- 20:59Speaker 1: have alcohol hall and she actually takes on the security guards. Hey, David,
- 21:05Speaker 1: was that in California? That was in Las Vegas? Vegas? Okay, Catherine,
- 21:11Speaker 1: security guards in Vegas. They're as big as a fridge.
- 21:17Speaker 1: They're huge, they look menacing, They're like beefy Doberman pinchers.
- 21:23Speaker 1: This woman is so convinced of her beauty she takes
- 21:27Speaker 1: on security guards and has a battery claim, not against
- 21:32Speaker 1: the security guards against her. Typically, Kathery Maloney is just
- 21:37Speaker 1: the opposite. It's the other way around. You got a big,
- 21:39Speaker 1: beefy guy beating on a woman. You don't usually see
- 21:43Speaker 1: this reversal, doctor, I mean, it's definitely not what you
- 21:48Speaker 1: expect to see. I mean, especially if you think that
- 21:51Speaker 1: she thought she was so beautiful, you think that she
- 21:54Speaker 1: would try to win him over with honey as opposed
- 21:57Speaker 1: to very good fight vinegar. Yeah, yeah, remember flies with
- 22:03Speaker 1: honey than vinegar exactly. I mean, when you look at
- 22:07Speaker 1: a woman's physique compared to a man, it's almost impossible
- 22:12Speaker 1: for a woman using just her fists to win a
- 22:16Speaker 1: fight against a man. Doctor. I mean, definitely, the average
- 22:21Speaker 1: woman is smaller than the average man. I mean, there
- 22:24Speaker 1: are exceptions to that general rule, obviously, but looking at
- 22:28Speaker 1: the pictures of her that were posted, she definitely doesn't
- 22:30Speaker 1: look like she's the type of person that could take
- 22:33Speaker 1: on a Las Vegas security guards, two of them, Kurt Narmy,
- 22:36Speaker 1: after dealing with murdered defendant Jody Arius for months and
- 22:42Speaker 1: months and months. I guarantee you this is what happened.
- 22:45Speaker 1: She went up to these security guards for what to
- 22:47Speaker 1: get in for getting a joint without allies. It's I
- 22:51Speaker 1: don't know, for something, thinking she could win them over
- 22:55Speaker 1: with her charm, and it didn't work, I guarantee, as
- 22:58Speaker 1: she slapped one of them. What about at Army, Yeah,
- 23:00Speaker 1: I guarantee that that's exactly what happened. Nancy and I
- 23:03Speaker 1: think what we really have here is we're finding a
- 23:05Speaker 1: picture of a woman who can't take no for an answer,
- 23:09Speaker 1: who will not accept no to what she wants, that
- 23:11Speaker 1: kind of narcissistic urge. And once somebody tays no doesn't
- 23:15Speaker 1: fall for her charms, then we have violences too. Have
- 23:19Speaker 1: you guys seen her LinkedIn photo? I mean, this woman
- 23:24Speaker 1: could be a model, jack. Have you seen her LinkedIn?
- 23:28Speaker 1: She's perfect, her teeth are perfect. David Charns Klis, Is
- 23:34Speaker 1: she living at home with her mom? She is? She?
- 23:36Speaker 1: We know that she lived at home with her mother.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure how long her mother
- 23:41Speaker 1: lived here, but she had been here for several years,
- 23:45Speaker 1: and they didn't live together in what we would call
- 23:48Speaker 1: the suburbs here in Las Vegas, you know, not on
- 23:50Speaker 1: the strip, far away in a community. Now, so you're
- 23:55Speaker 1: basically telling me, in a much nicer way, that she's
- 23:58Speaker 1: a gorgeous young party girl that is a DJ sometimes
- 24:02Speaker 1: and lives with her mother. Is that right, David Charnes,
- 24:06Speaker 1: is what appears to be true? Yes, So she's basically
- 24:09Speaker 1: got the golden ticket. Mommy's letting her live at home.
- 24:12Speaker 1: She plays at being a DJ, and I guarantee uses
- 24:17Speaker 1: that position as a DJ to get in all sorts
- 24:19Speaker 1: of exclusive parties and gatherings like the one where she
- 24:23Speaker 1: had the altercation with the security guards. And I want
- 24:26Speaker 1: to point out a correct me if I'm wrong, David Charnes.
- 24:29Speaker 1: When she was first taken into custody there, I guess
- 24:34Speaker 1: the baggage claimed at the airport, she claimed the cops
- 24:40Speaker 1: were perverts and that they were trying to rape her
- 24:44Speaker 1: because they had never seen anyone as good looking. That
- 24:48Speaker 1: is correct. I'm quoting the police airboard because I'm looking
- 24:51Speaker 1: right at it right here. Okay, and this is all over.
- 24:55Speaker 1: Bustami walking out on a tab at the Chile's restaurant
- 24:58Speaker 1: inside the airport, she became belligerent and accused them of
- 25:03Speaker 1: wanting to write her because she was quote white, because
- 25:06Speaker 1: they had quote never seen anyone as good looking. Okay,
- 25:12Speaker 1: what more do we know about this person? Take a
- 25:14Speaker 1: listen to our friends. Klis Neighbors waking up around two
- 25:18Speaker 1: thirty am police finding a deceased sixty eight year old
- 25:21Speaker 1: woman covered in lacerations and blood, but they didn't find
- 25:24Speaker 1: her daughter, twenty eight year old hen to Boostami, who
- 25:27Speaker 1: they say first called in the death before abruptly hanging up.
- 25:30Speaker 1: I'm using ten o'clock or later, and we would they
- 25:33Speaker 1: would just be screaming in the backyard, or they'd be fighting,
- 25:36Speaker 1: and adds Moreno, who lives nearby, says the house in
- 25:39Speaker 1: question was the loudest on the block. I could always
- 25:42Speaker 1: hear the screaming and yelling, so I just try to
- 25:43Speaker 1: keep to myself. And of course is shortly after in
- 25:46Speaker 1: all the screaming, their police presence would be involved, and
- 25:49Speaker 1: things were getting on. We'll get settled down, and then
- 25:51Speaker 1: a week later it happened again, police records showing officers
- 25:54Speaker 1: were called their twelve times just this year, mostly for
- 25:57Speaker 1: family disturbances. So apparently her mother did not think that
- 26:01Speaker 1: I'm too pretty to behave excuse was working either. The
- 26:05Speaker 1: neighbors could hear them arguing over and over and over.
- 26:10Speaker 1: They were the loud ones in the neighborhood. Well, the
- 26:14Speaker 1: mother was afraid, and she had good reason to be.
- 26:19Speaker 1: Take a listen to this nine one one call. We
- 26:22Speaker 1: are her friends, but her work called her emergency contact,
- 26:26Speaker 1: which is another friend, and we're all looking for her.
- 26:28Speaker 1: She's not answering, she's not short uppards and would she
- 26:32Speaker 1: called me last night going home, she was skinned and
- 26:36Speaker 1: and that was a less large book. Friend, she's the
- 26:39Speaker 1: one who actually was arrest of of the airport and said,
- 26:41Speaker 1: you're arrestued for good looks as all over the news.
- 26:43Speaker 1: Karen Stark, I don't know if you remember the case
- 26:45Speaker 1: of Heather Mack. This is reminding me of that so much.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Heather Mac's mother was married to us. I believe she
- 26:54Speaker 1: was a college professor. She was married to a famous
- 26:57Speaker 1: jazz musician, and they had Heather their only child, and
- 27:02Speaker 1: they treated her like a princess. But police often came
- 27:07Speaker 1: to the home because Heather Mac had her own mother
- 27:10Speaker 1: living in fear. She would slap her, would yell at her,
- 27:14Speaker 1: would be rate her. Finally, in a lastic effort to
- 27:19Speaker 1: make amends and put their relationship back together, the mom
- 27:23Speaker 1: takes Heather Mac on an all expense paid luxury vacation
- 27:28Speaker 1: to Bolly, and then after they've been there a few days,
- 27:34Speaker 1: the bellhop notices a bag out front, a huge piece
- 27:41Speaker 1: of luggage, and blood is sleeping from it. Heather Mac
- 27:45Speaker 1: and her boyfriend had actually killed the mother light we're
- 27:49Speaker 1: hearing in this case with this Tommy. In the Heather
- 27:52Speaker 1: Mac case, there were eighty six nine one one calls
- 27:57Speaker 1: made and the mom hens up dead. This is quite
- 28:02Speaker 1: a phenomena of the daughter berating and attacking the mother.
- 28:08Speaker 1: That's the thing that anyone would expect, right, Nancy. Usually
- 28:12Speaker 1: you feel like there's this unbelievable bond between a mother
- 28:16Speaker 1: and a child. But we're talking about a person who
- 28:19Speaker 1: has no empathy feelings, doesn't really understand that kind of
- 28:24Speaker 1: connection or had the ability to even feel for her
- 28:28Speaker 1: mother or love her mother. And so this callous act
- 28:32Speaker 1: which none of us can really empathize with or shared,
- 28:36Speaker 1: this is nothing to that daughter. There's no feeling about
- 28:40Speaker 1: killing a mother, stuffing her in the suitcase. It's absolutely
- 28:45Speaker 1: like she took a doll with the department put in
- 28:47Speaker 1: the suitcase. No difference time stories with Nancy Grace to
- 29:08Speaker 1: Lisa Daddio For a police lieutenant in Haven, PD, matricide
- 29:13Speaker 1: is very very rare, and when matricide that the murder
- 29:18Speaker 1: of your mother occurs, it's usually a son that commits
- 29:22Speaker 1: the murder. A daughter murdering her mother is almost unheard of, Lisa. Nancy,
- 29:27Speaker 1: you hit the nail on the head. We I mean,
- 29:30Speaker 1: it's so rare to see that and you know, if
- 29:35Speaker 1: it does happen, you try to look for those triggers
- 29:38Speaker 1: and the signs, and you know what was there along
- 29:41Speaker 1: the way for a daughter to have that much hatred
- 29:45Speaker 1: to kill her mother. It's honestly just astonishing. Guys. I
- 29:50Speaker 1: want you to take a listen to hand Bastami and
- 29:54Speaker 1: her nine one one call. And this has nothing to
- 29:57Speaker 1: do with a battery on a security guard at a
- 30:00Speaker 1: an elite a sophisticated party, or walking out on a
- 30:04Speaker 1: chili's tab. Listen, you need police, fire, medical, hi medical.
- 30:09Speaker 1: I think I killed my mommy? What's your address? That dooms?
- 30:16Speaker 1: Wis go south? What didn't? False? Guys? Why do you
- 30:24Speaker 1: think you killed your mom? Because I did? I murdered her.
- 30:29Speaker 1: How did you do that? Yes? But looked the table
- 30:34Speaker 1: on the y and I let it? You did? What
- 30:38Speaker 1: with the table? I get medical? Medical? Eight seven five nine?
- 30:48Speaker 1: Where are you and my mom? Well? I do need
- 30:56Speaker 1: to asma? You said what you and flower? Yeah? Okay?
- 31:04Speaker 1: What did you do to her? I killed your How
- 31:08Speaker 1: did you kill her? You said something about a table.
- 31:11Speaker 1: I ruged the table on your hole. You dropped the
- 31:14Speaker 1: table on her head. I rubbed the table on her
- 31:17Speaker 1: head and I taught her, Michael, can you cut? What
- 31:25Speaker 1: where are you at? Now? I'm in the whole. I
- 31:32Speaker 1: can hear her saying something about the water. Take a
- 31:35Speaker 1: listen to our friends Kaylas the nine one one call
- 31:39Speaker 1: a twenty eight year old woman made after she reportedly
- 31:42Speaker 1: killed her mother inside their South Valley home. Now. In
- 31:46Speaker 1: that call, police say, twenty eight year old hen Bustami
- 31:49Speaker 1: calmly described how she killed her mother before hanging up. Now,
- 31:53Speaker 1: we do want to warn you the details might be disturbing.
- 31:57Speaker 1: Why do you think you killed your mom? Because I did.
- 32:01Speaker 1: I murdered her. How did you do that table? Was?
- 32:09Speaker 1: Stammy told police she used shards of glass or a
- 32:12Speaker 1: broken table to allegedly stab her mother. After describing what happened,
- 32:16Speaker 1: was Stammy hung up? Now I remember regardless of what
- 32:20Speaker 1: you may how you may think, she sounds on the
- 32:22Speaker 1: nine one one call. Stami is a graduate of the
- 32:25Speaker 1: University of Nevada, Las Vegas with a full degree in
- 32:29Speaker 1: Hospitality administration and management, and she is also a dj
- 32:35Speaker 1: appropriately who goes under the name Aphrodite or Aphrodite, who is,
- 32:41Speaker 1: of course the goddess of beauty. She named herself that
- 32:47Speaker 1: David Charnes investigative reporter k Las Exactly how did she
- 32:52Speaker 1: allegedly murder her mother? So what we can tell from
- 32:56Speaker 1: the police report and obviously the buried disturbing nine on
- 33:01Speaker 1: one call there is police believe that Henboostami took a
- 33:06Speaker 1: like a glass table that was in a living room
- 33:09Speaker 1: and broke it over her mother's head and then, as
- 33:13Speaker 1: you heard her describe, there, take shards of the table
- 33:16Speaker 1: and then stab her mother with that. We understand her
- 33:19Speaker 1: mom was found with several stab wounds and cuts, and
- 33:24Speaker 1: as Henboostami described in the call herself, she said she
- 33:30Speaker 1: cut her neck off. I'm so definitely a gruesome, very
- 33:35Speaker 1: violent act that allegedly happened in there. And then as
- 33:38Speaker 1: you heard her describe, and you heard the beeping of
- 33:41Speaker 1: the car and then nine one one call, she then
- 33:44Speaker 1: got in the car and drove to California, much like
- 33:47Speaker 1: your client, Kurt and Army counsel to Jodi Arius after
- 33:52Speaker 1: murdering Travis Alexander, hops in the car, drives across the
- 33:56Speaker 1: desert and literally hops on and straddles her next boyfriend. Yeah,
- 34:01Speaker 1: you know, we can see that. You know, even though
- 34:03Speaker 1: she is confessing to this, describing it, you can't see
- 34:07Speaker 1: that she really is that disturbed by what she's doing.
- 34:10Speaker 1: She's heading off, she's done with it, and she's moved on.
- 34:14Speaker 1: And I think that just goes to this whole narcissistic
- 34:17Speaker 1: idea that you know, she was justified what she did
- 34:20Speaker 1: and it was time for her to move on and
- 34:22Speaker 1: get on with her life and get away from the
- 34:24Speaker 1: murder scene. Doctor Katherine Maloney is joining US Deputy Chief
- 34:28Speaker 1: Medical Examiner Erie County Medical Examiner's office that's in Buffalo,
- 34:33Speaker 1: and you can find her at Nickel City Forensics dot com.
- 34:36Speaker 1: Doctor Maloney, the force it would have taken to pick
- 34:40Speaker 1: up one of those glass paneled coffee tables and crash
- 34:45Speaker 1: it down over her mother's head, that would require a
- 34:50Speaker 1: lot of physical strength and force. I mean, I would
- 34:53Speaker 1: think so those types of tables are very heavy, and
- 34:56Speaker 1: especially if her mother was even sitting, she'd have to
- 34:59Speaker 1: lift it up several feet in the air and then
- 35:01Speaker 1: taking shards of the glass and stabbing her mother over
- 35:06Speaker 1: and over. Doctor Maloney, I believe, and as a layperson,
- 35:12Speaker 1: you're the MD, I'm just a JD that the mother
- 35:16Speaker 1: had to know what was happening. If she had been
- 35:19Speaker 1: killed by just the blow to the head. I do
- 35:23Speaker 1: not believe that Bustami, her daughter, would have continued to
- 35:26Speaker 1: stab her. I think she was alive, maybe stunned, but
- 35:30Speaker 1: that she knew what was happening to her. Yeah, I mean,
- 35:33Speaker 1: it's it's really hard to know, you know, it's really
- 35:38Speaker 1: hard to say. He would hope that she didn't know
- 35:40Speaker 1: what was happening, but yeah, I don't know. Back to
- 35:43Speaker 1: David Charms about how many stab homes do we know
- 35:47Speaker 1: the mother suffered, Belice described it as multiple lacerations, which
- 35:56Speaker 1: would mean scrapes, and then it was sort of revised
- 35:59Speaker 1: to say that he had had cut as well, because
- 36:01Speaker 1: according to the coroner, she died of multiple stab wounds.
- 36:06Speaker 1: I don't know how many, but as we know from
- 36:08Speaker 1: covering these cases before, and as you sort of alluded
- 36:11Speaker 1: to before, these are usually crimes of passion. So generally
- 36:16Speaker 1: we see multiple multiple stab wounds, and it was enough
- 36:20Speaker 1: for hand boostomy when she was arrested eventually in California
- 36:24Speaker 1: to be as police described, just covered in blood. Guys,
- 36:27Speaker 1: take a listen to Candies, Charles. Around two thirty Wednesday morning,
- 36:32Speaker 1: nine one Dispatch got a call from a woman saying
- 36:35Speaker 1: her mother was dead. Then the call disconnected. When they arrived,
- 36:39Speaker 1: they found a sixty two year old woman dead. We
- 36:42Speaker 1: then started looking for the vehicle and the daughter. CHP
- 36:44Speaker 1: was able to locate stop her taper at custody about
- 36:47Speaker 1: five am this morning in Barstow, California. As neighbors started
- 36:50Speaker 1: to hear the news, some tell me they were shocked,
- 36:52Speaker 1: but that this was not the first time the police
- 36:55Speaker 1: were here. She was in handcuffs in front of the house. Scheme,
- 37:00Speaker 1: I'm guessing she started to fight. Neighbors said that that
- 37:03Speaker 1: incident happened a couple of months ago, so coss have
- 37:07Speaker 1: been called over and over to the home. It culminated
- 37:11Speaker 1: in the murder of Bustami's mother. Take a listen to
- 37:16Speaker 1: our friends at Klaas eight. The twenty eight year old
- 37:19Speaker 1: woman accused of killing her mother in the home they
- 37:22Speaker 1: shared reportedly confessed to the crime and was covered in
- 37:26Speaker 1: blood during her arrest. Right now, hen Bustami is at
- 37:29Speaker 1: a California jail. Police say she called them early Wednesday
- 37:32Speaker 1: morning saying quote, I think I killed my mommy. The
- 37:36Speaker 1: victims was reportedly stabbed several times with shards of glass.
- 37:40Speaker 1: California Highway Patrol caught up with Bustami in Barstow, California.
- 37:44Speaker 1: We don't know yet when she will be brought back
- 37:47Speaker 1: to Las Vegas. Two pretty for jail. We'll see about that.
- 37:53Speaker 1: Nancy Gray's Calm story, signing off good bye friend,