Latest / I Think Less of You Podcast / We Count Those

Transcript

We Count Those · I Think Less of You Podcast

• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: Uh,
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: yeah,
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_00: so the,
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: um,
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_00: I don't,
• 0:20
  you're having issues with your nail polish this morning and
• 0:22
  smearing all over the
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: place.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: I don't wear nail polish.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_00: I think less of men who wear nail polish.
• 0:27
  There are YouTube people who I like,
• 0:29
  there's a couple of people who I watch part of that.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: youtube video and it's a man i was like thought it was a very interesting
• 0:36
  interesting youtube channel and then i eventually that shows
• 0:40
  the guy's hands he's
• 0:41
  wearing and he's wearing nail polish and i ain't watched more
• 0:43
  of that because guys
• 0:44
  in nail polish not not cool there was like goth people in the
• 0:49
  90s sometimes were
• 0:50
  black nail polish and that was part of the whole i can like i
• 0:52
  can deal i can deal
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: with that um but no i
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 0:57
  Like,
• 0:58
  also,
• 0:59
  I'm fine with guys getting manicures and pedicures,
• 1:02
  but no polish.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_01: I don't.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think guys should be getting me.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: Guys 100% should be getting pedicures.
• 1:10
  SPEAKER_01: Y'all have nasty feet.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: Gay men.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: Gay men operate in a different way.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know what a pedicure is?
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_01: They just soak your feet.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they scrape at your feet.
• 1:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: They run a cheese grater on your feet.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: Basically.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: That is no man.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: No man who calls himself a man.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_01: I've tried to get my husband to do that with me, and he won't.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: Good.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_01: I think my son would, just because he loves both massages.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_00: No, don't do that.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_00: Do not do that to your son.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: To have clean feet?
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_00: If you do that to your son,
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_00: then don't be surprised when he comes home with a boy and says,
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm in love.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: That's pedicure.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: No, manicure, pedicure, man, straight man.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, absolutely not.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: Lee has spoken.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: Also,
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: I don't wear nail polish a lot,
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: and I just wear this stuff that,
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: like,
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: because I'm doing the stupid TikTok and Instagram cooking videos.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's important how your hands look.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, yeah, and mine are always busted.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I bite at my nails.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: I always, like, cut myself.
• 2:25
  So I'm trying to hide some of that and look a little bit more
• 2:28
  like I am pretending to be a lady.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_01: But my dudeness...
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: My dudeness shines through.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_00: Hard to shake the dudeness.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
• 2:38
  SPEAKER_01: It really is.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying.
• 2:40
  Luke laughed at me the other day because I was painting my
• 2:42
  nails the other day.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: And he was like, you never do that.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: He was like, oh, it's nice.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I might barf saying this, but he was like, oh, it's nice.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: You're pretending to be soft.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, what?
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: You could wear press-on nails.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_00: You remember Lee Press-On Nails from back in the day?
• 3:02
  SPEAKER_01: I know, but those came back in.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_01: Did they?
• 3:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I have a friend who actually runs a company and does them.
• 3:10
  And I have actually tried them somewhat recently,
• 3:14
  but they're just really ghetto-looking.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: I thought they went out of fashion,
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: I thought,
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_00: because there was some kind of big thing where women were getting,
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: some kind of infections in their,
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: some kind of,
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: weird bacterial buildup in their nails from wearing them too much.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, probably.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I remember there was a thing.
• 3:31
  There was an old swing band that I liked back in the day called
• 3:35
  Lee Presson on the Nails.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_00: I always thought that was a good name.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: That is a good name.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's a weird name, but it's a good name.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of niche.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: It was the 90s, man.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_00: The 90s swing revival was a whole vibe.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: Dang it.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: Now I just messed up a whole other finger.
• 3:50
  SPEAKER_01: This is why I don't usually look ladylike.
• 3:55
  SPEAKER_00: My wife, she never wears nail polish.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: She doesn't like nail polish.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_00: No, I hate it.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure I've ever seen her wear nail polish.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_00: My daughters will sometimes wear nail polish,
• 4:08
  thinking their friends will do their nails when they're over at
• 4:12
  their houses and
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: whatnot,
• 4:13
  SPEAKER_00: and they're always very excited about this.
• 4:15
  SPEAKER_01: I just have, like, it's actually not even called polish.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's called, like, nail blur.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: Because it just makes your nails look like uniform and even.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: Again, this is solely for Instagram cooking videos.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: I understand.
• 4:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's not something I normally do, which is why.
• 4:32
  The video influencer's life,
• 4:33
  you have to care about how you look and these sorts of things.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_00: I look horrible.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: The written influencer's life is so much better.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_01: I put up a video the other day and I was not wearing makeup in it.
• 4:46
  And I'm eating in the video and I was like,
• 4:48
  oh God,
• 4:49
  what am I doing to myself?
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_01: The things I do for money.
• 4:53
  Was this the...
• 4:54
  No,
• 4:54
  you were wearing makeup in the...
• 4:56
  No,
• 4:56
  in the La Majune one?
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: No, I was not.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't notice.
• 5:01
  Yeah,
• 5:02
  but you also say I look fine,
• 5:04
  and I look like I just crawled out of a gutter.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I would post a video of myself eating something.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_00: That's just weird to me.
• 5:12
  I understand you have to do it,
• 5:13
  but I don't think I would bring myself to doing that.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't do them for every video,
• 5:20
  especially because then I have to do stuff like brush my hair
• 5:23
  and put on makeup.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_01: Although I didn't.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_00: You felt it necessary to demonstrate how one is supposed to eat.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because you have to like fold it up.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: But also just every few videos,
• 5:36
  it's helpful to have me in it because a lot of the people that
• 5:40
  follow me don't know
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: who I like.
• 5:43
  SPEAKER_01: They've followed my website forever and they get my emails,
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: but they're like,
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know who this person is.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_01: So for brand awareness, I guess it's good to like show my face sometimes.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_01: But of course, that is what it's all that much.
• 5:59
  Twitter,
• 6:00
  or X,
• 6:01
  as it likes to be known now,
• 6:02
  is they are trying to get more of those videos.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_00: They are prioritizing videos that have a person talking or doing...
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: Videos of a person, which, again, I think is stupid.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think that that is not Twitter's wheelhouse at all.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: They're not going to be Instagram.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_01: It used to be Twitter's wheelhouse.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_01: They could get Vine back.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, they own Vine.
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_01: Vine is the reason we have the scourge that is TikTok.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then they got rid of Vine.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: Twitter also should...
• 6:41
  I mean,
• 6:41
  if they're doing stuff like that,
• 6:42
  they could also prioritize original pictures.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: But their photo...
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: Their compression is awful.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: Their editing that they have in Twitter is awful.
• 6:56
  SPEAKER_01: Same for videos.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: In Instagram,
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: if you're posting a video in Instagram or in TikTok,
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_01: built into their engine,
• 7:03
  SPEAKER_01: they have editing.
• 7:04
  SPEAKER_01: editing software, like, built in.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_01: And it's really, really good editing software that's built in.
• 7:11
  Twitter also doesn't have the music partnerships that Instagram
• 7:17
  and TikTok have.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_01: So, it just...
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: They can say they want this.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_01: All they...
• 7:23
  want to say but it's not practical I can say from experience
• 7:27
  Twitter also doesn't
• 7:28
  especially police the usage of music on the platform I have
• 7:37
  posted many videos with
• 7:38
  random music attached that I just ripped off of somewhere on
• 7:40
  the internet and I've
• 7:41
  never had any trouble about it at all and I'm aware that on
• 7:44
  like Instagram you can
• 7:46
  SPEAKER_00: get they're very diligent about looking for that sort of thing
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: I had a copyright flag thrown at me yesterday.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, really?
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which isn't a huge deal.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: You just replace the music.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: And actually, it happened on TikTok.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_01: And on TikTok,
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_01: their AI now will edit out music,
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_01: even if you uploaded that music in,
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: but it won't cut the other sounds.
• 8:09
  Like,
• 8:10
  they'll just remove the music so you can swap for one of their
• 8:14
  brand safe things.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, music things.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: I have TikTok on a different phone.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even have it on, like, my personal phone.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: Smart.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: I have a separate,
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_01: like,
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_01: other phone that isn't connected to anything,
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: but I just,
• 8:28
  SPEAKER_01: like,
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_01: upload via Wi-Fi for that.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_01: But I have to keep my TikTok going, although my TikTok sucks.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's dead.
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: TikTok in general sucks.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: It does.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: And my TikTok is, like, extra dead, right?
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_01: I have a lot of followers there, but...
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody ever sees anything.
• 8:48
  Do followers do does whether or not you actually follow someone
• 8:51
  on TikTok really matter?
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because my understanding with TikTok, it's just like the endless scroll.
• 8:56
  So I'm assuming that it's just peppering in your followers
• 9:00
  amongst whatever is
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_00: trending when you're endlessly flipping to the next video.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so like it should do that.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: And if you sign up,
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: this is my,
• 9:11
  SPEAKER_01: we've talked about this in the past,
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: but this is my problem with so many social media platforms.
• 9:16
  If you are giving a platform your consent to follow someone,
• 9:20
  that should show up in your feed.
• 9:22
  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, it doesn't
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: happen like that.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_00: They all have their algorithms.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: No, I totally understand.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: Especially,
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: you have people,
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_00: I assume this is as true on the other platforms as on Twitter,
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: there are people who are following like 30 or 40,000 accounts
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: How are you going to,
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_00: like,
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: the algorithm has to just be,
• 9:47
  and there's a lot of people who are following a ridiculous
• 9:49
  number of accounts.
• 9:50
  I follow 2,500 accounts,
• 9:53
  I think,
• 9:54
  and I feel like I've got way too many followed.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: On TikTok, I am following 272 people, and I have 84.4 thousand followers.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's nice.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: You got a nice representation on TikTok.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, except how many of those followers ever see any of my videos?
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like maybe 10,000.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: They don't have a metric so you can see how many.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: No, you can.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_01: No, you can.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm looking at one like I did this one and it's not a very good.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually going to delete it because it didn't perform well.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: But it had like 25 views.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_00: No, no.
• 10:32
  You can't see how many followers of your followers see it
• 10:38
  versus just random people
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: organically seeing it.
• 10:43
  I could do the math because it'll tell you following versus not
• 10:47
  following.
• 10:50
  Twitter doesn't show you any of these things,
• 10:52
  but Twitter famously has extremely opaque metrics.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: Instagram does.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_01: Instagram has the best metrics.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: They just can...
• 11:00
  kiss my butt the most because their their algorithm is horrible
• 11:05
  facebook in general
• 11:06
  is very talented at building back ends um i the or i guess meta
• 11:11
  yeah um the the um
• 11:14
  i don't like how they build front ends but it's my
• 11:17
  understanding that they build
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: back ends very well yeah like see i can see views from followers versus
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: non-followers that's handy um
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: Which just makes me angrier because like this one,
• 11:30
  it was like 40% of my viewers were my followers and 60% were
• 11:35
  not followers.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: But again, these are people who have said they want to follow me.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like...
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: With Twitter, I know that there's all sorts of crazy things.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_00: My de-boost on Twitter finally ended.
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_00: I sent you a screenshot.
• 11:58
  of my analytics where you can see the moment that my dboost
• 12:03
  ended because my views
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_00: on everything were very low,
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: then suddenly it just shoots up out of nowhere.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: So as far as with Twitter, I know there's all
• 12:13
  sorts of things going in that had to do with your account's
• 12:18
  social points,
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_00: like the social point system in here,
• 12:22
  how many social points your account has for it versus against
• 12:25
  it for what gets
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: shown regardless of if people follow you or not.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: So Twitter does that separately.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: They do different
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: It could be like super extreme for that to happen.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: Or you have to repeatedly post stuff that goes against their guidelines,
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: which their guidelines could even just be disclosing paid content.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: People that are influencers that don't disclose when they're paid.
• 13:06
  that would like go against your social credit but say you are
• 13:11
  just like me posting
• 13:12
  I am really a regular and when I post and I don't really post
• 13:18
  that much anymore
• 13:19
  it's kind of my own fault so I'm sending negative like virality
• 13:25
  signals to the
• 13:26
  platform saying like well I don't post all that often so maybe
• 13:30
  don't show it to
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: people
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's fair.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: They want people who are consistent content creators.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: Also,
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: the more active you are in the app,
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: if you're going around liking other people's things,
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_01: it helps your virality score.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: Twitter does that well.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: When I go out of town or I'm busy for a week or so and don't post much,
• 13:54
  it takes a while for my analytics to go back up because it's
• 14:03
  devalued me because I
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: haven't been posting regularly.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's definitely built to reward addicts.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it rewards heavy users.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_01: It rewards heavy users and it gives you,
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean,
• 14:15
  a lot of this is actually part of a lawsuit that is going
• 14:21
  through right now.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Or did they find Meta was culpable?
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: It was a lawsuit in California that was alleging that virality,
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: like the addictive nature built into a lot of this tech.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I know they lost that way.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: They lost a lawsuit recently.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if it was that one.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: It might have been that one.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's usually with kids that they get that.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because you look at kids are sitting on meta all day,
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: sitting on Instagram all day,
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: are not in classes,
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: are not really learning in school.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I know we have some side takes on this that we wanted to get into.
• 15:12
  But kids are just absolutely addicted to social media and tend
• 15:19
  to sit on it all day.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, they it is giving them short attention spans.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: That was my daughter is currently taking tests in school.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: They're like their annual tests.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: And she always complains every time she does these tests.
• 15:37
  She complains in her class about this periodically,
• 15:39
  too,
• 15:39
  that her class like that.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: They only give her snippets to read.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, I want to read more.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_00: But they just give us these snippets to read.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: She calls them little chunks, but she's talking about snippets.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: But that is because most children can't handle reading.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_00: It's been in the news,
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: and I think we've touched on before,
• 16:06
  that a lot of schools are having issues because kids don't know
• 16:11
  how to read books.
• 16:13
  They're at this point not used to the concept of actually
• 16:16
  plugging through with a
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_00: plot to read an entire book.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: Meanwhile, I homeschool my kid.
• 16:24
  My kid has problems reading books,
• 16:26
  but that's because she's severely dyslexic.
• 16:28
  And we are doing dyslexia therapy,
• 16:31
  which is going really,
• 16:31
  really,
• 16:32
  really well.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: Good.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: she's like desperate to be,
• 16:35
  she sits down to read and she's so excited to read and she like
• 16:39
  wants to be a book
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: nerd.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's like her greatest goal in life is to be a book nerd.
• 16:45
  But,
• 16:45
  you know,
• 16:46
  when the letters are flying all over the page,
• 16:48
  it's a little tricky.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, I would imagine.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_01: But if I gave her that SAT question, the SAT question was like,
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: so-and-so is going to camp and he's scared and excited.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_01: And then down below, how does he feel?
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: How does he feel?
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: He was scared.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_01: He's excited.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: He's scared and excited.
• 17:10
  And it's like,
• 17:12
  yeah,
• 17:12
  I'm pretty sure my kids could answer that in like kindergarten.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: I saw somebody in the replies popped up with,
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: well,
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: was this an early question,
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: an early baseline question?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_00: I thought the original poster on that was,
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_00: it doesn't matter,
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: this question should not be on the SAT.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have warm-up questions on the SAT.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: I would like to take the SATs now as they are just to see what I'd get.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to pay to do this.
• 17:44
  I'm not going to be responsible for an adult to just go take
• 17:46
  the SATs for fun.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_01: I think you could.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: Why can't you?
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_00: They tend to be administered in schools and whatnot.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: It would be kind of weird.
• 17:58
  Yeah,
• 17:58
  but I feel like you could take one maybe like you could take
• 18:02
  last year's.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I could just buy an SAT book and just do it.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I think you can do it online.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think you can do like last year's online.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_00: It was just curious to see.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: I would do it except I don't want to see how dumb I am now.
• 18:19
  i don't well i don't want i don't want to see my my uh math
• 18:24
  score would have
• 18:25
  dropped precipitously dude my math score would be so bad i did
• 18:30
  i did really well on
• 18:31
  the verbal uh and very poorly on the math and i feel like that
• 18:35
  would just be
• 18:36
  amplified to an extreme degree i did okay on the math and
• 18:41
  really well on the verbal
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_00: so i i so the only
• 18:45
  The only reason I did as well on the math as I did is that I
• 18:49
  took the SAT the last
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_00: year that you could use the Texas Instruments 89 calculator,
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: which is their super souped-up,
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_00: most advanced calculator that does everything for you.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_00: They banned it the year after I took the SAT.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_00: So that thing—
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: It was like St. Christopher carrying Jesus across the river on his back.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: That thing carried me across the river.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: It makes me really sad that I don't think our kids use those anymore.
• 19:26
  SPEAKER_01: The giant Texas instruments.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: My kids do.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: Years ago at Goodwill,
• 19:34
  I felt for some reason they were selling two TI-83s in perfect
• 19:40
  condition for five
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: bucks,
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: which is a really good deal on Texas Instagram.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_00: What are you doing?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: Me?
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, it got really loud.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_00: Now I'm hearing a loud whoosh sound coming from you.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: Is that the wind?
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, that's my microphone volume.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Stop monkey with your microphone volume.
• 19:58
  The whoosh you hear is the heat that I had to turn on this
• 20:02
  morning because it's
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: cold this morning.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: What's the temperature?
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_00: What are we talking cold here?
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: The high today is going to be like 60.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's perfect.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_01: No, agreed, but that's not what temperature it is now.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: It was 63 in my townhouse, and I was like, cool, I'll freeze to death.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_00: 63 is perfect temperature for hanging out.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_00: Sure.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: Wonderful.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: It was like 30 when I came over.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's fine.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I was just cold, okay?
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_01: I turned the heat on, and I just increased my microphone sound.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_01: You were in the middle of it.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: I could hear you before, then suddenly it got really loud and whooshy.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: Luckily, we use Riverside, and they have a really cool AI sound.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: They clean up, I believe.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: I will press the magic button and it will clean up this audio.
• 21:00
  So hopefully other people don't hear this loud whooshing that
• 21:03
  you just heard.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, the kids are not learning to read properly, which is a shame.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: They're not.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I...
• 21:16
  It's kind of a double edged sword because I'm like,
• 21:18
  OK,
• 21:20
  how are they supposed to go to college?
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_01: And then I'm like, oh, right.
• 21:22
  They don't learn anything in college except for how to protest
• 21:25
  anyways and how to
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: go into massive amounts of debt.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe it's good that they're completely.
• 21:31
  math illiterate because well it depends so like there there is
• 21:35
  a college that i was
• 21:36
  unaware of its existence i where is i think it might be in
• 21:39
  annapolis maryland we
• 21:41
  were uh trucking and are going around to different state
• 21:43
  capitals we were we uh i
• 21:46
  came upon this weird little college campus i was like oh i
• 21:49
  wonder what this school
• 21:49
  is i looked up and it's this place called st john's college and
• 21:52
  apparently their
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_00: whole thing like they they are
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_00: The college form of great books,
• 21:58
  literature colleges like what they do is they read the
• 22:04
  important works of Western
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_00: civilization and then their classes are discussing the books,
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_00: which had I noticed.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_00: If I had known this place existed when I was looking at colleges,
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_00: I would 100% go on to that college.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like my kids are inclining more towards the sciences.
• 22:19
  And I believe St.
• 22:20
  John's does do sciences,
• 22:21
  but it's not their specific area.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know that they would necessarily want to go to this.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_00: I'd probably go to this school now.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: If I was looking to get another bachelor's,
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be like,
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: oh,
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: yeah,
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'll go read great books and discuss them.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: I love that.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like,
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if my kids are going to go to college,
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: but we are literally moving to a college campus.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_00: At some point.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_00: In Baston.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:47
  I'm still not technically sure if we are moving with my husband
• 22:52
  or if he's moving.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: Or just he's moving.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: You can visit sometimes.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's not going to be my favorite thing.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think I've said before, I haven't been to Boston for what...
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_00: 20 years now, probably, maybe more before the big dig.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: The big dig had not happened.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure the big dig had started the last time I was in Boston.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: So it's been a while.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: I lived there when I when my mom had a fellowship at Harvard.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: I lived in we lived in Cambridge, but I was two and I don't remember.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: Memories.
• 23:36
  My mother always talked about how she'd be pushing me around in
• 23:39
  my stroller,
• 23:40
  and she always swore to God that Boston drivers would actively
• 23:43
  try to swerve to hit
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: my stroller.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: Probably.
• 23:53
  really fun for my kids who love to jaywalk because that is like
• 23:58
  second nature for Coloradans.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_00: Although that was, I mean, have I told you my Jesse Jackson story?
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: I don't remember if I told you the Jesse Jackson story when he died.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: You should tell it again because I don't think you did it on here.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_00: I was at daycare,
• 24:15
  and she went and picked me up from daycare because Jesse
• 24:17
  Jackson was giving a talk,
• 24:21
  and all the kids loved Jesse Jackson because he speaks in this
• 24:25
  very rhythmic
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: fashion that they were.
• 24:26
  at all we get very excited about so she picked me up from
• 24:29
  daycare to go uh to go
• 24:31
  listen to jesse jackson talk and she uh the other kid like as
• 24:36
  she was walking up
• 24:37
  all there were all these other kids there and they're all like
• 24:39
  happily bopping
• 24:40
  along to the cadence of his voice uh and apparently i slapped
• 24:43
  my hands to my ears
• 24:44
  and started to scream atop my lungs and wouldn't didn't stop
• 24:47
  screaming until we
• 24:48
  were out of earshot at which point i just completely stopped
• 24:50
  screaming um so you've
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: always been this way
• 24:55
  I was I remember being quite young and watching Family Ties and
• 25:01
  being very taken
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: with Alex B.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_00: Keaton.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_00: I thought Alex B. Keaton was a fantastic character.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: He was.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: I loved it.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_01: We loved him growing up.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: And who would think that Mallory ended up being the conservative?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: I know, it's true.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I don't actually know Michael J.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: Fox's politics.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think he really necessarily has politics.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_00: So he's probably somewhat conservative.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: There's the 30 Rock joke where,
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_00: what's it,
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: Liz Levin says,
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: they're talking about some celebrity,
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: and she says,
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: well,
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_00: we don't know his politics.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_00: And Jack says, we count those.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: No, we do count those.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: You have to count, though.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't know,
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: if a celebrity doesn't discuss their political views publicly,
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: they're probably at least somewhat conservative.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_01: Or are not offended by conservatives.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_00: that's why that Friends of Abe group existed,
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_00: because it was...
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know about Friends of Abe,
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: right?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but give another...
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_00: Basically,
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_00: it's a group of semi-secret conservatives in Hollywood who they used to,
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_00: and I believe they actually still do exist,
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: but on the down low more.
• 26:26
  They have dinner parties where they have talks,
• 26:29
  where they have people in to give talks to them.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: And they existed because it was difficult for people,
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: for actors to find work and be openly conservative.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: There was some issue with them.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_00: The whole, the whole club blew up.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and, um, I think that it is still out.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: No,
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: it was,
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_00: it was known that it's known that it exists,
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: but,
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_00: um,
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: whether or not people acknowledge their membership in it is voluntary.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_00: So there are people who we know where like Gary Sinise started it.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um,
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: And apparently Robert Duvall was in it, the late, great Robert Duvall.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: But we don't know.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, we don't know the member list.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_00: I say that I know it still exists because I tweeted about it.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_00: This was a couple of months ago.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: I tweeted about it, having been a former organization.
• 27:27
  And there are a couple people I have mutuals with who are in
• 27:31
  Hollywood and
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: One or two of them sent me messages saying, oh, it still exists.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: We just don't really talk about it anymore.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_00: We still hold things.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: They're just trying to be more DL with it.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they didn't do this on the timeline.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_00: They direct messaged me.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: But again, these exist because it is so difficult to be a celebrity.
• 27:58
  If you are a conservative celebrity,
• 27:59
  you become just a conservative celebrity.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_00: You have people like James Wood.
• 28:04
  who is an excellent actor who basically found himself unable to
• 28:08
  get work.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_00: Now, his Twitter presence is kind of unhinged.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to say it isn't.
• 28:14
  But also,
• 28:17
  you know,
• 28:18
  I think that's just partly because he had his career more.
• 28:21
  He's said repeatedly he had his career blown up because he was
• 28:26
  a Republican.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah,
• 28:29
  I feel like the people that will come out and identify
• 28:33
  themselves as Republican or
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: as conservative tend to be a little bit nuttier.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: They have nothing left to lose.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty much, yeah.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, okay, yeah, I am.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's really sad.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: I wish that we would start pushing back on this leftist.
• 28:52
  And this was really an Obama creation,
• 28:54
  or at least I'm going to blame him for it.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: um,
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: you know,
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_01: before Obama,
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: it was very like,
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_01: you have your crazy aunt and uncle and you don't talk,
• 29:07
  you don't bring up that one political story that you know is
• 29:10
  going to enrage them.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: And we all just kind of go along to get along.
• 29:14
  And,
• 29:14
  you know,
• 29:15
  we don't talk about politics at the table or at home,
• 29:18
  which my family never did.
• 29:20
  We've always talked about politics and we like get in people's
• 29:22
  faces because we're
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: Irish,
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: but,
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: um,
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: I digress.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_01: He was the one who started really pushing me at Thanksgiving,
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: bring up health care,
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_01: bring up this,
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: bring up that and like fight with your family.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: And if your family doesn't agree with you,
• 29:39
  cut them off and stop talking to them until they do agree with
• 29:44
  you and use your
• 29:45
  relationship as a cudgel to force your family to take on
• 29:52
  democratic principles and
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't really seen enough pushback to that.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_01: We haven't really seen the culture shifting back from that.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: It is just like gone full force.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's really sad.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_00: In many ways, Barack Obama put the cult in cult of personality.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_00: No, he totally did.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: No,
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: he really,
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_01: really did,
• 30:16
  because it was this comply or die mindset that we didn't really
• 30:22
  have before that in
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: politics.
• 30:25
  I worked in politics in the Bush White House and in the Obama
• 30:29
  White House,
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: and they were radically different.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_01: It just completely changed everything.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_00: Because Obama and Obama's people bought their—they took their own drugs.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: They believed their own message.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: They thought—and this is why the left has,
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think,
• 30:51
  a major reason the left went so insane and has been so insane
• 30:55
  during the Trump era.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: They believed—
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: That we had reached a new plateau,
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: that the Democratic Party was now ascendant and that we would like,
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_00: they had locked in leadership for basically the foreseeable future.
• 31:10
  And we were moving on into their brand new projects and that
• 31:15
  they then started
• 31:17
  being open about a lot of their what the what the nuts and
• 31:20
  bolts of what their new
• 31:21
  SPEAKER_00: projects were,
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: which caused a lot of the backlash that led to Trump.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_00: There were other things.
• 31:28
  There were systematic problems in the Republican Party that
• 31:30
  also led to Trump.
• 31:32
  But a decent chunk of it was that they firmly believed that
• 31:38
  they had—we were ascending—
• 31:40
  to their shining city on a hill uh and the whole you have to
• 31:45
  talk to you like it
• 31:45
  was basically you you need to like you know make make sure your
• 31:49
  relatives at the
• 31:50
  holidays know this is the this is the helicopter out of saigon
• 31:53
  like you know you
• 31:53
  need to get they need to get on board or else they're gonna be
• 31:56
  left behind and then
• 31:57
  they found out the relatives at the thanksgiving table also got
• 32:00
  to vote and they
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: didn't like this
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well,
• 32:03
  and now they're complaining that the relatives around the table
• 32:06
  at Thanksgiving
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: aren't giving them all of their hard-earned money and savings.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 32:14
  um people are complaining about boomers holding all of the
• 32:17
  equity which like okay
• 32:19
  but they built it like yeah my parents are extremely generous
• 32:27
  um with my brother
• 32:28
  and a little bit with me um a lot more with my brother but it's
• 32:33
  an entirely
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: different story um
• 32:37
  And they are giving very generously of a lot of their savings
• 32:41
  while they are alive
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: because they want to see their grandkids get to experience it.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_01: I say there's a difference in it because a lot of it is like ask for.
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm not asking my parents for money.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like my brother's situation,
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: he's stuck in another country and can't work in Australia right now.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: So he needs help.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: They're trying to move back to the U.S.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: But our immigration is kind of broken.
• 33:06
  But for me,
• 33:08
  you know,
• 33:08
  my dad will be like,
• 33:09
  oh,
• 33:09
  do you need this or do you need that?
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't count on that money.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's great.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's really nice if he helps us.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: But, you know, it's his.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_01: He built that.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's not mine.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_00: No,
• 33:21
  that's I get really annoyed by especially what you have people
• 33:25
  demanding that all
• 33:26
  the older people sell their houses and downgrade to a smaller
• 33:30
  house so that younger
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_00: people can have that house.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, no, this is their house.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_00: All their memories are all their memories are in that.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like my wife's family, my wife's parents live in the house.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_00: My wife spent most of her childhood and she grew up in.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a big house that they don't need that much room,
• 33:48
  but they like having enough room so that if all their kids want
• 33:52
  to come visit with
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_00: all their kids,
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_00: they can put them up.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_00: And it's their house.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_00: They bought it.
• 33:59
  My in-laws bought the farm that my mother-in-law's dad built by
• 34:05
  hand in the 70s.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_01: They bought that from them.
• 34:09
  And my husband grew up in the house that they built out back in
• 34:14
  the backyard.
• 34:15
  And we live in the farmhouse that my husband lived in through
• 34:20
  college and would go
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: and visit when he would visit his grandparents.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: And now my kids' grandparents live there with us.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but they shouldn't be forced to give that up to us.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like it worked out in that there's two houses on this property.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: So we moved in with them.
• 34:40
  It helped with some health issues that we're dealing with for
• 34:44
  my mother-in-law.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it also just, there was rooms.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_01: We used it.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: We also take, um,
• 34:52
  My family and my husband's family are very different in that we
• 34:58
  take more of like a
• 35:00
  European standpoint with helping kids where we do think that
• 35:05
  that is our job.
• 35:06
  Like the only reason I'm making money right now is to be able
• 35:09
  to help my kids later.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: That is my goal in life.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_01: But that doesn't need to be.
• 35:15
  Like if I wanted to hold it for me and I wanted to just go off
• 35:18
  on vacations forever,
• 35:19
  I would.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know that I would call it a European outlook.
• 35:24
  I don't think the Europeans are noted for wanting to leave
• 35:26
  money to their kids.
• 35:28
  They're actually somewhat noted for wanting to tax their kids
• 35:30
  to pay for their own retirements.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: They do that.
• 35:35
  What I mean by that is a lot more involved family where their
• 35:41
  grandparents watched the kids.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_00: That was the American way, too.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's actually a very recent...
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_00: So that is European only because Europe is small and people are...
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: But they're also not as mobile.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're not mobile.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: We move all over the place, so we've gone away from that.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_01: So that's...
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's...
• 36:00
  It's accurate to call that the European way and not the
• 36:03
  American way because we all
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_01: live so much further.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like...
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_01: I guess I went to four elementary schools.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_01: I've lived in seven states.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: I know you moved around a lot, too.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't have roots like that.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: My dad didn't even have roots like that.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: He moved around a lot.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: This is a uniquely American thing.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't really love it.
• 36:27
  SPEAKER_01: I like families to be super hyper involved.
• 36:30
  Well,
• 36:30
  in fairness,
• 36:31
  my grandmother wasn't a person you want to leave kids with.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, I get that.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_00: I get that.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: For me, it feels really normal.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: And a lot of people are like, wait, you live with your in-laws?
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like,
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was, for much of history, that was the norm.
• 36:52
  SPEAKER_00: The problem is,
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_00: if you,
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: you know,
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_00: again,
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_00: it's been pointed out by others and probably by me in the past,
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_00: that any,
• 37:00
  the prescriptions that the American or global left has for
• 37:08
  fixing most things
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_00: involve intense resentment of someone else.
• 37:13
  And that's the whole the boomers have to give their kids all
• 37:17
  their money and
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: downgrade into a smaller house thing.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's to foment generational resentment.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's resentment all the way down.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's the...
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: By and large,
• 37:30
  it's not like the baby boomers were doing fantastically when
• 37:34
  they were in their
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_00: early 30s either.
• 37:36
  It's just they're now in their 70s and there's been 40 years on
• 37:40
  and they've built
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_00: up more assets.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
• 37:43
  and we have stuff like surging immigration causing housing
• 37:48
  bubbles that they will
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_01: benefit from because they have more time on the property.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: Although immigration ain't surging so much these days.
• 37:56
  I don't know if you've seen this,
• 37:58
  but I think it's the lowest point since something like 2001.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, thankfully, we need that.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: And housing prices, funny enough, are starting to come down, too.
• 38:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:12
  It's almost like there might be connected.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well, but at the same time, Trump is so obsessed with markets.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: He would like housing prices to not fall.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, we do.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: If you're not planning on leaving your house in the near future,
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: you shouldn't care what the value of your house currently is.
• 38:38
  I think the world was better when people couldn't endlessly
• 38:40
  monitor the value of
• 38:42
  SPEAKER_00: their investments and the value of their house.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: Or leverage the hilt with multiple mortgages.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: And they have.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_00: You got real loud again.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_00: Why are you messing with this?
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's because my microphone keeps turning itself all the way down.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: I just want to just stay where I turned it to.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so the editing AI is going to have fun with this.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um,
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_01: kind of along this line,
• 39:14
  did you see the New Yorker writer this week who was bragging
• 39:18
  about stealing
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_01: repeatedly from Whole Foods?
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_01: Woman owns a two million dollar
• 39:25
  walk up in New York City and she says it is ethically okay to
• 39:31
  steal from Whole
• 39:32
  Foods because they are a large corporation and large
• 39:36
  corporations are inherently
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_01: evil.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: So it's fine that she steals regularly.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: This mindset rears its head in media periodically.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't see this particular.
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: Hassan Piker gave a very glowing...
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: This was on a New York Times podcast.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_01: No, it was a New Yorker.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: It was on a New York Times podcast.
• 39:56
  A New Yorker writer was like,
• 39:58
  oh,
• 39:59
  yeah,
• 39:59
  I steal from Whole Foods all the time.
• 40:00
  SPEAKER_00: That was totally fine.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_00: The New York Times podcast also interviewed Hassan Piker,
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: who said a similar thing,
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: that he's in favor of piracy and theft of all kinds.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_01: It could have been the same one.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: It wasn't Hassan Piker that said that.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: It was a woman, but...
• 40:15
  But yeah,
• 40:16
  no,
• 40:16
  no,
• 40:16
  that's that's it is a unhinged way of looking at the world.
• 40:23
  It is just morally bankrupt in every that's I don't know how
• 40:31
  you as a human come to
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: that viewpoint as being a valid one.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:40
  I am frankly flabbergasted by the fact that these people can
• 40:46
  believe this and
• 40:47
  openly say these things and consider themselves to be the
• 40:50
  protagonists in our
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: global story.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_01: And they're encouraging other people to do it, too.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like,
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: if you're on a podcast and you're talking about this,
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: you're encouraging other people to do it.
• 41:01
  You're saying,
• 41:02
  hey,
• 41:02
  I can go shoplift from them,
• 41:04
  and it's totally fine because of this.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you can go do it, too.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_00: But again,
• 41:11
  it's a tragedy of the commons thing where the more of this you
• 41:15
  have happen,
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: the worse things overall get.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_01: This is why I'm a fan of monarchies.
• 41:25
  SPEAKER_00: Monarchies are...
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't like the people.
• 41:28
  I understand we're supposed to want representation for all
• 41:34
  people and have a great
• 41:36
  democratic society and i just don't think i like people that
• 41:40
  much i think we need
• 41:43
  to vigorously enforce our laws at all times and i think that we
• 41:48
  need to unwind our
• 41:50
  legal code so that it is not so byzantine to just arrest and
• 41:55
  convict these people
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_00: without
• 41:57
  having random advocate district attorneys in cities decide
• 42:03
  they're not going to do
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: anything about these things,
• 42:07
  or having juries that are purposely nullifying it because of
• 42:11
  the race of the person
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_00: who was caught,
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_00: or just because of some random political belief.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_00: I...
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: Our legal system has been hijacked by a lot of really bad people,
• 42:25
  but we have a high-trust legal system in a country where many
• 42:31
  groups of people are
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_00: not capable of operating in a high-trust environment.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_01: Say less.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: No, you're making my case for me.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_01: I just...
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: Monarchy isn't better, though.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_00: I know I play a monarchist on the internet,
• 42:49
  but the genetic roll of the dice to see if you happen to have a
• 42:54
  good king or a bad
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_00: king,
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_00: there's a reason that you evolve from...
• 43:02
  There's a reason that you evolved from the Hobbesian worldview
• 43:05
  to the Lockean one.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_00: Hobbes was like, well, if you have a bad king, tough.
• 43:12
  And Locke was like,
• 43:14
  well,
• 43:14
  you know,
• 43:15
  there are things you can do about a bad king.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, you can get rid of a bad king and get a better king in there.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_00: You're just describing American democracy.
• 43:27
  I just feel like the unwashed masses have far too much of a
• 43:32
  right to an opinion.
• 43:34
  Well,
• 43:35
  I think the founders had a lot of good points with how they
• 43:39
  structured who could vote.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: Not necessarily the racial elements, obviously.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_00: The racial elements?
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: No, the gender elements I don't have a problem with.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: And here's why.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: I do in that it was assumed to be one gender.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: It was clear what they were going for was one vote per household.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_00: It was multiple.
• 44:04
  Men voted because it was just taken and taken as a given that
• 44:08
  the man is the head
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: of the household.
• 44:11
  So he's so he's the one who will vote to express the will of
• 44:15
  their household.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think that certainly you could just frame it as.
• 44:20
  Each household gets a vote,
• 44:22
  and they can choose which member goes and places it.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_00: So if it's the wife, if it's a single household, that's your household.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_00: If you're a woman, you can go vote.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_00: But it's just one vote per household.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: Now,
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: this would become,
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_00: in the modern world,
• 44:39
  difficult to do because it would incentivize people to not
• 44:42
  actually get married.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_01: There's way too many.
• 44:45
  Well,
• 44:45
  there's so many unmarried people anyways that it just wouldn't
• 44:49
  work now.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, the voter share.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think we would like the result if we gave just single people.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: Only married people can vote.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_00: Legalize... You'd have to have a...
• 45:15
  You might have to have a codicil because obviously homosexual
• 45:21
  marriages would also
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_00: get the right just under the current circumstances.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: But, yeah, no, no, that's your workaround.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_00: And that would get people getting married earlier.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_00: You want to have a say.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: You want to have a say in governance.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: Find a girl.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_01: I'm fine with just taxpayers voting.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_00: Net taxpayers?
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: I would say landowners,
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_01: but the problem is,
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: as we just talked about,
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: the housing bubble is so oversized.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: And we have BlackRock buying up all of the houses.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm super sick of them.
• 46:02
  It's so anti-capitalist of me,
• 46:04
  but I'm so sick of...
• 46:06
  Also,
• 46:07
  what is a landowner?
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_00: If you own a one-bedroom apartment in a walk-up?
• 46:16
  But do you outright own it or does the bank own it and you have
• 46:21
  a mortgage?
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_00: It gets confusing.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: If you're paying property taxes, I really don't care.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 46:28
  If you have a mortgage and you're paying property taxes,
• 46:30
  you have stake in the game,
• 46:32
  fine.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_00: What about people in Vermont who don't pay property taxes?
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: Vermont doesn't get to vote?
• 46:40
  I mean...
• 46:48
  then then do people in texas where they don't have an income
• 46:52
  tax but they have
• 46:53
  really high property taxes oh i say as someone who lives across
• 46:57
  the street from
• 46:58
  boulder county and my property taxes are just as high um hence
• 47:02
  so are all my
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think Florida is getting rid of both income and property tax.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what money they're going to live on.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: Is it just sales tax?
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: I want a VAT, baby.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_00: I love VATs.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_00: I want a VAT.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_00: No European solutions.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_01: I would end up spending so much more in taxes if you went to a VAT.
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'd be okay with it.
• 47:29
  There is something that smacks of Marxian economic theory and
• 47:34
  labor theory of value
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_00: to do with that.
• 47:36
  The assumption that you could assign a value to each step of
• 47:39
  the transaction that a
• 47:42
  SPEAKER_00: good has taken.
• 47:43
  You think it's that we should rent property that we own from
• 47:47
  the government?
• 47:49
  Yeah,
• 47:50
  the property taxes,
• 47:52
  it was the only taxes specifically authorized by the
• 47:56
  Constitution.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: They had to do a constitutional amendment to make income tax a thing.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, let's make America income taxless again.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's the I'm OK with that.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_00: But no, no.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: Property taxes.
• 48:14
  That was that was the sole the sole means that the federal
• 48:17
  government was provided
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: in the Constitution for raising funds with property tax.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: I just think it's awful.
• 48:23
  SPEAKER_01: Just tax me on things I'm buying.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: You'll get way more money.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_00: People don't like that because it's regressive.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_00: It falls heaviest on the poorest.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's just how it is.
• 48:42
  I mean,
• 48:44
  you have to have exemptions for things like you would for
• 48:46
  income taxes.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_00: But you can't operate the government solely on luxury tax.
• 48:57
  SPEAKER_00: it's just not a thing I mean
• 49:12
  Well,
• 49:12
  that has to do—intuit is the reason that the tax code's so
• 49:18
  Byzantine.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_00: The IRS has wanted to make—has wanted to structure these things.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_00: The IRS years ago had this idea that—
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because they know how much you owe.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: If you ever file your tax and you do something wrong on your taxes,
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: they will then send you a note saying,
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_00: hey,
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_00: you messed up.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_00: This is how much you actually owed.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_00: They know how much you owe from the get-go.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_00: Literally, the reason that...
• 49:47
  We have such a Byzantine tax code is because Intuit and H&R
• 49:53
  Block and all these
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_00: people have a lot of lobbyists in D.C.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: who keep the tax code the way it is.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, some of that is also IRS, their union.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 50:08
  The Federal Employees Union keeps them employed and keeps
• 50:13
  growing their agency,
• 50:13
  things like that.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: Well,
• 50:17
  this rolls into a whole other topic of conversation that has to
• 50:21
  do with whether or
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: not government employees should legally be allowed to unionize.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_00: I say no.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't think they should.
• 50:29
  I was a federal employee,
• 50:32
  but I was not in a position that was union eligible.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_00: You may not unionize when your boss is the American people.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think you should be able to.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 50:55
  But that is definitely a good conversation for another day.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: For another day?
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I think for today, I think we have covered most of our base.
• 51:03
  We didn't get to...
• 51:04
  We didn't get to anything we talked about talking about.
• 51:06
  We talked about nothing.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_00: We didn't get to monitoring the situation.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about that briefly.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly,
• 51:12
  I don't know that there's that much to talk about because I
• 51:14
  don't think it's going
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_00: to go anywhere.
• 51:16
  That's why I think it's interesting to bring it up in the last
• 51:18
  10 minutes of the podcast.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: There's not all that much to talk about.
• 51:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's this...
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_00: Monitoring the situation,
• 51:27
  it's amazing how few people are actually aware of its existence
• 51:30
  as far as I can
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: tell.
• 51:31
  It is an attempt to have basically a 24-hour CNN-style news
• 51:38
  service on Twitter.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: Well, but it's a video podcast.
• 51:48
  When you say podcast,
• 51:49
  I always think,
• 51:49
  because I'm old,
• 51:50
  I always think Audible.
• 51:51
  You and I both think that,
• 51:53
  but we are probably one of the only podcast guys.
• 52:00
  So they so their whole thing is they're supposed to be sitting
• 52:06
  like it's new.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's 24 hour news, the terminally online.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: So there's there.
• 52:13
  They're supposed to be always monitoring the situation and
• 52:16
  letting you know the
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_00: cutting story that's happening as it's happening.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: They're not doing this at all.
• 52:22
  uh because i've watched the stream a few times what they're
• 52:27
  doing is they're just
• 52:28
  more or less talking about themselves and like it's they've
• 52:31
  hired these completely
• 52:33
  random people to be to be their hosts uh just the most random
• 52:39
  collection of people
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_00: i don't know where they acquired them uh
• 52:46
  No,
• 52:47
  I think they don't have enough hosts to actually fill out 24
• 52:50
  hours yet.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: But it's, okay, what's the name of the company?
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_00: It's like A16Z.
• 53:00
  Andreessen Horowitz,
• 53:03
  Mark Andreessen's company,
• 53:06
  is behind this whole thing.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's a kind of interesting idea, but not really.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's not different.
• 53:15
  I don't think they are tweeting out things like so that such
• 53:21
  like when they
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_00: encounter a situation,
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_00: they tweet out saying like situation,
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_00: situation noted.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then whatever the news story they found is.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen this a couple of times.
• 53:34
  I generally have already been aware of whatever the situation
• 53:36
  they're discussing it
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_00: for at least half an hour by the time they tweet these things out.
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_00: The term only online don't need them.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_00: Because we already know the stuff.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: In the time that we've been talking about this,
• 53:51
  I've been dinking around on my phone on Twitter just trying to
• 53:55
  find their Twitter
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: handle.
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, this is how visible they are.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_00: No, it was MTS Live, I think.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_01: I had to go through a bunch of things.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_01: I had to go through Andreessen's profile.
• 54:05
  Click on it.
• 54:18
  They launched this with a bunch of buzz and presented it as
• 54:24
  though it was the next big thing.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_01: And there's a lot of big names and money behind it, I would assume.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it also kind of seems like it wet the bed out of the gate.
• 54:35
  SPEAKER_00: They had Ayala on yesterday.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_00: Do you see that?
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_00: I am a lot less aware of...
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_00: I did not watch that.
• 54:48
  For anyone who happens to be listening and doesn't know who
• 54:50
  Ayala is,
• 54:51
  don't worry about it.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: My wife will listen to this,
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_00: and I will just preempt her by asking who that is by saying,
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: don't worry about it.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to say this one directly to her.
• 55:01
  Don't worry.
• 55:10
  so yeah no the monitoring the situation is not worth i i don't
• 55:15
  know it's it's just
• 55:17
  not worth the time it might mature i don't know but like i said
• 55:21
  with i i vaguely
• 55:23
  because they're they put out a thing for a host and i was like
• 55:26
  i should given the
• 55:27
  people that are uh hosting these things clearly i should send
• 55:31
  them a thing say i i
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_00: could send them a thing saying like you know hey
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be interested in doing this,
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_00: but I don't think I,
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_00: but I,
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_00: I,
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: I,
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: I mentioned that to a friend of mine.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: He was like, you don't, you don't want to be attached to that shit.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_00: Twitter's favorite statistician.
• 56:08
  SPEAKER_00: What is that kind of chart she ruined?
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_00: The flow chart thing.
• 56:13
  SPEAKER_00: There's a type of chart that she forever ruined.
• 56:16
  SPEAKER_00: Let's not call it a flow chart.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_00: So, monitoring situation, I think not worth monitoring.
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_00: I have,
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know,
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_00: have you seen,
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_00: I've been watching this show,
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_00: apparently Taylor Sheridan created,
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_00: this will be the first Taylor Sheridan show I've actually watched,
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_00: called Lioness.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's on Paramount Plus.
• 56:41
  SPEAKER_00: Surprisingly good show.
• 56:42
  I know my wife wouldn't like it,
• 56:44
  but she,
• 56:47
  I think,
• 56:47
  was watched briefly a couple scenes.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, what is this?
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_00: But it's like a stupid action show.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_00: It has Zoe Saldana in it.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: Good show.
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_00: I have a really full.
• 57:01
  week of TV watching and it's about to get into summer so it's
• 57:05
  going to be even more
• 57:06
  full so right now I have Real Housewives of Rhode Island which
• 57:15
  is a brand new Bravo
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_01: And they're bonkers.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_01: They're so great.
• 57:20
  SPEAKER_01: They're insane.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: My eyes can't roll further back in my head.
• 57:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's like back to the glory days of real life lives in New Jersey.
• 57:28
  I am going to lose my contacts in the back of my eye if you
• 57:32
  keep talking about this.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_01: When we get into summer, then I have Love Island.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_01: And Love Island comes out every day except for one day a week.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, my dance card is full.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_00: And people say there isn't a hell.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, some Bravo shows my husband will even watch with me.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, my husband broke the West Sierra Amanda news to me.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: Don't know what that is.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want you to film me.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: Literally don't care.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_00: No, I don't care.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care.
• 58:05
  I refuse to acknowledge the existence of a person who goes by
• 58:11
  the name Chicken Fry.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_00: No, there's not.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_00: This person doesn't exist.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_00: No one goes by chicken fry.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, absolutely not.
• 58:27
  SPEAKER_00: There's no, there isn't a person who goes by chicken fry.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_00: Goodbye.
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_01: You need to look this up.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to look it up.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_00: Just turn it off.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_00: No one named chicken fry.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: Goodbye.