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California is Falling into the Ocean | Job Interview Tips · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to KFI AM 640, the Bill Handel show
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  Speaker 2: Neil Saavedra with the morning crew handles out on vacation. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: San Clemente, we all know San Clemente, right? Small beach
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  Speaker 2: town here in SoCal and forever, you know, people walking
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  Speaker 2: in the sand, enjoy miles of beach, all of that.
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  Speaker 2: The beach is getting smaller. The ocean is rising. And
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  Speaker 2: I know there's, you know, people are like, what does
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  Speaker 2: that mean? Where are you getting more water? How are
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  Speaker 2: they not getting into that? What we're getting into is
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  Speaker 2: that it's happening. It's rising. The waves are washing the
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  Speaker 2: sand away. The erosion is big. Talking to our APD here, Oscar, yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: he was in Hawaii. And, you know, they're having all
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  Speaker 2: the intense weather in Hawaii. And he was saying one
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  Speaker 2: of the beaches that was he's been to the same place.
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  Speaker 3: Family has timeshare there.
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  Speaker 2: And he he said you would walk out to this
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  Speaker 2: beach like you just walk right out there. And he said,
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  Speaker 2: because of the weather, it's it's moved these massive rocks
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  Speaker 2: and all the sand away where you can't even negotiate.
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  Speaker 2: You can't navigate down to the beach anymore.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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  Speaker 2: In San Clemente, they're seeing these waves and everything washing
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  Speaker 2: the sand away. It split the town's north beach in two.
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  Speaker 2: So the cliffs near the water are falling apart. It's
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  Speaker 2: even hurt some homes right on the coast. It's forced
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  Speaker 2: a busy train line to close over and over again.
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  Speaker 2: Their fear is that it's going to fall into the
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  Speaker 2: ocean there. And it's happening in other California beach towns
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  Speaker 2: as well. So scientists are now looking at all this.
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  Speaker 2: And they're saying that by the year 2100, more than
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  Speaker 2: half of Southern California's beaches could wash away if things
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  Speaker 2: keep going like the path they're going. So there's this
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  Speaker 2: one scientist who comes out and says that the ocean
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  Speaker 2: will just keep rising. The beaches will just keep moving back.
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  Speaker 2: And California is getting ready for this big El Nino
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  Speaker 2: that we keep hearing about. Now, I have my suspicions
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  Speaker 2: about El Nino because I'm a man who loves weather
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  Speaker 2: and I love wet weather. I love the sun and everything, too.
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  Speaker 2: But I just love the coziness and, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: food and the beverages and baking, all that, the romance
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  Speaker 2: of wet weather.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And so I get excited, and I can mark every time,
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  Speaker 2: the first time I ever heard El Nino and all
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  Speaker 2: those things, and it didn't pan out. And now then
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  Speaker 2: they're saying it's going to be the super duper one.
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  Speaker 2: And just recently, within the past couple of days, I think,
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  Speaker 2: there's some folks coming out and saying, well, maybe we
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't call it super anymore. Maybe that shouldn't. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: always leery whether these things are going to pan out
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  Speaker 2: or not. And of course, I don't want to see
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  Speaker 2: people hurt or homes or destruction.
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  Speaker 1: But.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting ready, apparently, for this El Nino with the
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  Speaker 2: governor already putting in a defensive stance prior to it
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  Speaker 2: hitting us, claiming a state of emergency before the emergency
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  Speaker 2: even gets here. So it could bring more flooding, more landslides, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 2: There's a pier in Pacifica had to close. Homes in
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  Speaker 2: Long Beach got flooded. In San Clemente, that train, those
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  Speaker 2: train tracks along the coast have been closed many times already.
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  Speaker 3: That's just in the last five years or so.
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  Speaker 2: The waves hit the rocks that were put there to
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  Speaker 2: protect the tracks, but that's just washing more sand away,
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  Speaker 2: making things worse. And now people who live there are
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  Speaker 2: saying that the beach that they once loved, they once enjoyed,
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  Speaker 2: and they once dug is gone. So this train line
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  Speaker 2: is going to be a concern. They're thinking about moving
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  Speaker 2: the tracks away. But the ocean will always win in
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  Speaker 2: these circumstances. Bigger, badder, stronger. You know, seeing the kind
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  Speaker 2: of elections coming up, we got so much going on.
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  Speaker 2: We're looking at a new governor eventually. And the big
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  Speaker 2: joke is the Casper situation going on with Democrat Becerra.
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  Speaker 2: Because he's literally like no one sees him now. They're
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  Speaker 2: off of the 101 freeway on that building there. It
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  Speaker 2: used to be like the Tropicana or something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It was a nightclub or something. It's got this big
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  Speaker 2: white wall that sometimes you'll see advertisements on. And right
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  Speaker 2: now all it says is vote for Becerra on it.
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  Speaker 3: But otherwise, I don't see him anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: And the thing is, is healthcare is a big issue
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  Speaker 2: at top of mind for a lot of people.
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  Speaker 3: And it's hard to get a clear picture.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you're grasping at nothing to figure out what
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  Speaker 2: these candidates stand on. You've got Steve Hilton and you've
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  Speaker 2: got Becerra. So Becerra says he wants everyone to have insurance.
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  Speaker 3: Great. But he hasn't explained exactly how it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be paid for.
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  Speaker 2: You've got Republican Steve Hilton saying, He wants to shake
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  Speaker 2: up the whole system as a whole. But again, unclear
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  Speaker 2: how much his ideas would actually save people or cost.
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  Speaker 3: The state or any of these things.
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  Speaker 2: So Becerra likes to point to his history of fighting
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  Speaker 2: for health care. Well, I'm not sure what that means.
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  Speaker 2: He defended the Affordable Care Act as an attorney general.
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  Speaker 2: He took on Sutter Health over high prices. But advocates
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  Speaker 2: want him to get specific, to find something that he
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  Speaker 2: lands on, stands there, and about tackling hospital costs. Everybody
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  Speaker 2: says we have a problem with health care in the U.S.
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  Speaker 3: We don't.
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  Speaker 2: Our health care is great. What we have a problem
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  Speaker 2: with is insurance and cost of health care. That is
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  Speaker 2: the problem.
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  Speaker 3: And insurance, by the way, is socialism.
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  Speaker 2: And it's essentially a Ponzi scheme at some point because
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  Speaker 2: everyone's paying into it and the insurance companies are crossing
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  Speaker 2: their fingers and hoping.
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  Speaker 3: That they don't have to pay out.
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  Speaker 2: And if they do, that they don't have to pay
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  Speaker 2: everyone out because there's not enough money to pay everyone out.
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  Speaker 2: So we all pay into it in one form or another,
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  Speaker 2: depending if you are at a workplace as insurance, you're
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  Speaker 2: paying into it. And they just hope that the younger
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  Speaker 2: people don't get sick And if the older people do,
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  Speaker 2: that they don't get too sick. That's the reality of
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  Speaker 2: what's going on, is that any insurance ends up being
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  Speaker 2: socialism to some point, and it ends up being a
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  Speaker 2: Ponzi scheme. If everybody needed it, it would all collapse.
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  Speaker 2: So this comes to the premiums and all of this.
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  Speaker 2: So the big promise with Becerra was, is to keep
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  Speaker 2: covering people who might lose Medicaid if federal cuts go through.
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  Speaker 2: That could cost California a butt-ton, billions. But he hasn't
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  Speaker 2: said where the money will come from. He argues there's
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  Speaker 2: plenty of waste in the system to tap into, which
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  Speaker 2: is fine when Becerra says it. If a Republican says that,
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  Speaker 2: everybody rolls their eyes. It's kind of a weird thing
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  Speaker 2: we do with politicians. Hilton, on the other hand, recently
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  Speaker 2: put out a plan. He focuses on the price transparency
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  Speaker 2: and replacing part of Medi-Cal with personal health spending accounts.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, nobody wants actual personal accountability on this
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  Speaker 2: stuff because that apparently, although built this country, is not
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  Speaker 2: what should continue to run it. Since Democrats control the
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  Speaker 2: state legislator, though, a lot of the ideas from Hilton
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  Speaker 2: probably won't get very far. Because, again, that's how we've
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  Speaker 2: made the system at this point. Hilton also wants to
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  Speaker 2: end state-funded health care for undocumented immigrants, which costs California
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  Speaker 2: about $ 10 billion a year.
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  Speaker 3: It's a lot of money.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not going to get into my views on
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  Speaker 2: immigration because they're deep and intricate.
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  Speaker 3: And I know nobody has that kind of attention span.
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  Speaker 2: So to use that money to help citizens instead, which
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  Speaker 2: is not out of this world to say. So this
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  Speaker 2: all matters because California is stressed to the peak with
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  Speaker 2: what they have in place as systems. And we as
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  Speaker 2: Californians are stressed about dealing with medical bills.
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  Speaker 3: They're horrendous. It's insane.
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  Speaker 2: So two out of three worry about unexpected costs. Many
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  Speaker 2: have skipped care because they can't afford it. And federal
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  Speaker 2: cuts expected to kick millions off Medi-Cal next year. Whoever
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  Speaker 2: becomes the next governor is going to have to deal
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  Speaker 2: with the mess right away. And again, we're left here
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  Speaker 2: scratching our head because no one's really coming out with
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  Speaker 2: a clear plan to say this is what we're going
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  Speaker 2: to end up doing. And Becerra, you can't see anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love for him to bring a plan out. I'm
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  Speaker 2: still up in the air as to who I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to vote for. I'm not particularly crazy about either of them.
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  Speaker 2: And it sucks that we continue to have horrible choices
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  Speaker 2: here in California and Southern California and here in Los
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  Speaker 2: Angeles in particular.
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  Speaker 4: We do have a debate between Steve Hilton and Javier
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  Speaker 4: Becerra tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: Is he going to show up?
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  Speaker 4: Don't know. It's on CNN starting at six.
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  Speaker 2: If Becerra doesn't show up, what does that mean? We're
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  Speaker 2: going to have a longer fall or a shorter fall
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  Speaker 2: or a... I can't remember all that. Apparently, somebody posted
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  Speaker 2: on TikTok. I hate when new stories start with TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: So guess what happened on TikTok? So apparently someone posted
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  Speaker 2: a recruiter for a job. was posting on TikTok about
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  Speaker 2: do's and don'ts, like for a job interview. And she
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  Speaker 2: goes on to say, hey, here's a new one as
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  Speaker 2: part of a list. If you're going to put a
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  Speaker 2: list together, maybe your mom or dad gave you a
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  Speaker 2: list at some point saying, hey, listen, man, you're going
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  Speaker 2: out for your first interview. This is what you got
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  Speaker 2: to do for a job interview. And they give you
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  Speaker 2: a list. Well, Caitlin, this job recruiter introduced this new one.
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  Speaker 2: Don't carry an iced coffee into an interview. And at first,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I think that's weird anyways. Personally, as someone
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  Speaker 2: who's done a lot of hiring, don't come in with affectations.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, of any kind. And if.
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  Speaker 2: You're don't eat and drink in front of me, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to eat and drink in front of you.
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  Speaker 2: And if I and if I'm going to have water
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  Speaker 2: or something, I'm going to offer you some. And I
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  Speaker 2: know there's a lot of huffing and puffing of young
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  Speaker 2: folks that are like, why? I need my latte or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: my boba, whatever it might be. But she says it makes,
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  Speaker 2: you bring in your iced coffee to an interview, you walk,
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  Speaker 2: you go to shake hands, you're juggling the drink, all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of things.
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  Speaker 3: And you make.
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  Speaker 2: This big moment. You're taking someone's time and you're going
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  Speaker 2: to be asking them for money. And you made it
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  Speaker 2: look like they're one step on your day. Listen, I
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  Speaker 2: got a lot of errands to run today. You're my
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  Speaker 2: two o'clock and I'm going to head out. No, I'm
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  Speaker 2: judging you. I'm literally judging you. You're coming in so
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  Speaker 2: I can judge you. This interview is me judging you.
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  Speaker 2: And there are some things that are turnoffs. And I
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  Speaker 2: try and give, you know, when I was doing the hiring,
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  Speaker 2: I try and have you know, a little bit of leeway.
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  Speaker 3: I'm looking, I'm not.
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  Speaker 2: Looking at resume stuff unless it's helping me piece together
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  Speaker 2: your life a little bit, like what you've done, what
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  Speaker 2: your interests are.
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  Speaker 3: I don't look for those gotchas.
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  Speaker 2: People say, oh, if it says like, I love, you know,
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  Speaker 2: surfing or, you know, snowboarding or whatever, then you go, oh,
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  Speaker 2: someone's going to be gone during the summer months or
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  Speaker 2: during the winter months. Like people try and trap you.
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  Speaker 2: That's not, to me, that's not a big deal. But
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  Speaker 2: the whole question got asked, what's okay now? Iced coffee,
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  Speaker 2: this is a Washington Post article. Tattoos, thank you notes.
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  Speaker 2: One mother sent her daughter off saying, here's the thing.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the breakdown. Cover your tattoos. No dyed hair. Make
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  Speaker 2: sure that you don't ask questions about salary right off
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  Speaker 2: the bat. Mail a physical thank you note the next day.
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  Speaker 2: Has anyone ever done that?
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  Speaker 3: Anne, have you? Has anyone? Amy's nodding yes, I figured.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so Amy, you've actually, after an interview, mailed a
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  Speaker 2: physical thank you note? Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You're the best person.
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  Speaker 4: And more recently than you might think, because everybody just
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  Speaker 4: emails them. And I know when I was hiring some staff,
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  Speaker 4: I was like, You got to at least call or
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  Speaker 4: you got to send something. And the people who got
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  Speaker 4: an actual letter in the mail, they got bonus points.
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  Speaker 3: Good for you. No, I think that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: I would follow up with certainly an email, but that's
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  Speaker 2: good for you. Kona, are you mocking her because she
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  Speaker 2: does things right?
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  Speaker 3: I hate that. Oh, look at you pronouncing words right
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  Speaker 3: and everything. Doing things right. Nerd. I didn't say that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know those things.
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  Speaker 2: So there but there's things that that have changed. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the hair dye is not a deal breaker. When I.
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  Speaker 2: Back in the day, I had spiked hair. I had hair.
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  Speaker 2: But I had spiked hair and that was a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: That was a big deal when I was in junior
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  Speaker 2: high or whatever. Now you can go to a bank
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  Speaker 2: and the guy's got the same haircut as I did
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  Speaker 2: and wasn't allowed to go through junior high graduation or
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  Speaker 2: whatever because of it. This guy is like the head
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  Speaker 2: of the bank. So colored hair and little different hair
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  Speaker 2: or even tattoos now. You go to Disneyland. You used
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  Speaker 2: to not be able to get into Disneyland with tattoos
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  Speaker 2: and long hair.
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, go look it up. Okay. I like giving new
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  Speaker 3: clay homework. Very diligent. He'll do it now. He'll come
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  Speaker 3: back with a PowerPoint and some charts. This is what
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  Speaker 3: I learned, Mr. Saavedra.
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  Speaker 2: So, yeah, now people work there with tattoos and all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of stuff like that. But the iced coffee, to me,
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  Speaker 2: would be an odd thing. Because, you know, make it
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  Speaker 2: look like you've got confidence. You go into the door,
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  Speaker 2: you shake hands, eye contact, all those things. I'm looking
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  Speaker 2: for that extra something personally. Like I don't judge people
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  Speaker 2: just on their academics or things like that because I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't want people to do that with me. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: an academic guy. I'm a curious guy. And I'm a
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  Speaker 2: studied guy. But not that you're going to see on paper.
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  Speaker 2: And so all those things. But you got you still
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  Speaker 2: have to have some decorum of putting in those extra.
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  Speaker 2: So tattoos, visible body ink. It's more, you know, expected
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  Speaker 2: now and it's not.
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  Speaker 3: A big thing.
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  Speaker 2: Sending a prompt follow up like Amy King on a
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  Speaker 2: note remains a very polite gesture, though expectations have relaxed
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  Speaker 2: on that. Brief, thoughtful email within 24 hours is standard
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  Speaker 2: and appreciated by most hiring managers. So if you're going
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  Speaker 2: out there, those are the things people are looking at.
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  Speaker 2: This was a story we didn't get to yesterday that
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  Speaker 2: raised my eyebrow. I mean, what would it be? What
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  Speaker 2: would it mean to you? I realize when you get
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  Speaker 2: into Palestine and Israel and the conflict there, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people have different feelings. but would it change your
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  Speaker 2: feelings or would it make you even more angry if
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  Speaker 2: you found out that possibly Egypt tried very hard to
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  Speaker 2: warn Israel about the big Hamas attacks coming from Gaza
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  Speaker 2: on October 7th, 2023.
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  Speaker 3: And I got to tell you, it could for me.
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  Speaker 2: And, uh, I want to play this as is because everybody,
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  Speaker 2: I'm a true believer that people listen with their triggers,
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  Speaker 2: not with their intellect anymore. We just want to get
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  Speaker 2: to the emotional place more quickly and start screaming more quickly.
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  Speaker 2: So Egypt apparently did try, from what we know, stories
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  Speaker 2: that came out yesterday, really hard. to warn Israel about
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  Speaker 2: that big Hamas attack coming from Gaza. It seems like
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  Speaker 2: nobody in charge took it seriously. I mean, this sounds
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  Speaker 2: kind of like things that we heard here in the
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  Speaker 2: US with terrorist attacks. It's like, well, the FBI did what?
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  Speaker 2: Or they shoved that in what drawer? Or any of
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  Speaker 2: those things. This is according to a new report from
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  Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal. Egypt's top intelligence guy actually called
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu just days before the October 7th,
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  Speaker 2: 2023 attack. This phone call was the third time, not
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  Speaker 2: the first, that Egypt had tried to sound the alarm,
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  Speaker 2: but it looks like the warnings just didn't get through.
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  Speaker 2: And in this whole story, This didn't play out very
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  Speaker 2: big yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was on our list.
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  Speaker 2: It was brought to my attention from producer Ann, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, wow. I mean, that's a part of this
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  Speaker 2: story that has to be told. So the warnings started
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  Speaker 2: way back in June of 2023, apparently. Egypt told Israel
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  Speaker 2: that things in Gaza were getting unstable. Then in late September, Kamel.
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  Speaker 2: Abbas Kamal, who is Egypt's top intelligence guy, he actually
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  Speaker 2: flew all the way to Israel to deliver a pretty
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  Speaker 2: what we're told, blunt message in person. He basically said, hey,
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  Speaker 2: situation in Gaza is about to blow up in everyone's faces.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be ugly, right?
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  Speaker 2: Israeli officials told him everything was under control and dismissed
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  Speaker 2: his concerns. Does not make sense, especially I know hindsight
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  Speaker 2: is 50-50, but come on.
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  Speaker 3: Because they ignored him.
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  Speaker 4: Actually, it's 20-20.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, sorry. Yes, of course. Mine is 50-50. But yes, 20-20.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Amy. It's 50-50. Sometimes I only have one eye.
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  Speaker 2: Israel officials told him everything was under control, you know,
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  Speaker 2: gets dismissed. But because they ignored him. Kamel decided to
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  Speaker 2: pick up the phone and call Netanyahu's office directly. Try
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  Speaker 2: one more time. And this story is a big deal
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  Speaker 2: because Netanyahu has repeatedly said he never got any warning
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  Speaker 2: about the attack from Egypt or anyone else. His office
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: is calling these reports fake news. Where'd you heard that before?
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: And say they are just made up to make him
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: look bad. But this new report comes right after another
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: big story that said the president of the United Arab
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Emirates also called Netanyahu personally to warn him about Hamas.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: And these reports together are making people wonder if the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: warnings were just ignored. So the timing and everything coming
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: together is pretty awkward for Netanyahu, obviously. Israel has elections
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: coming up soon. Critics are saying he dropped the ball,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: ignored clear signs of impending danger. and that something terrible
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: was about to happen. And there's even reports that he
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: had a security meeting just days before the attack, but
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: didn't even mention the warnings he had supposedly received. So
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: while Netanyahu keeps denying everything, more and more stories are
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: coming out. Jesse may have actually known a lot more
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: than he's letting onto. So why does this matter? And
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: why was it so important for me to bring up?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Because I have said on multiple occasions, If Hamas did
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: not attack Israel on October 7th, 2023, there would not
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: be the war going on today. That it was started,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: it was horrific. Even, I know people get into the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: oppression and all of these things, which is a big word,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: especially for young people that feel like The oppressed can do.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: Anything they want.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: You can get a gun and you can kill a
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: man on a New York street at night because he works.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: For a company you feel are oppressing people.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: All these things play a part of how we see something.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: It's horrific to think of a mother killing her children.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: But if she was oppressed by chemical changes that go
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: on in a woman's body after pregnancy, then we give leniency.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: So my ears aren't 50-50, so I don't always hear.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: The right thing. Anywho.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: So to me, this does play a huge part because
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the political game that Netanyahu is playing, who's not a
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: likable guy and has arguably done some very horrible things,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: that it does add a piece to the puzzle where
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: you have to say if they had information and they
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: didn't take it, then the blood of their own people
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: are on their hands. And that maybe it was seeing speculation,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: of course, as collateral damage to be able to start
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: a war you wanted to start anyways. And that is
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: hard to push aside if this information is true.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: I haven't landed yet.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: I'm looking more into it, but I thought it was
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: absolutely was something that needed to be put out there.
• 24:06
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