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I Saw the Spiritual Realm Around Us for Five Minutes _ Riaan Swiegelaar _ Jesus People · truthunedited

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Speaker 1: Why am I being so tempted recently?
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Speaker 2: It's a massive weapon at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Target children. They're posing as children through games like Minecraft
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Speaker 1: and Roblox.
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Speaker 2: Even on TikTok, Minecraft, Roblox are being targeted.
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Speaker 1: What does that even mean? That snakes are on the
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Speaker 1: same frequency as the demonic?
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Speaker 2: Why would God then not reveal this to you? Why
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Speaker 2: is it the most repeated phrase in the Bible? Do
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Speaker 2: not fear. Do not be fearful. Why do you think?
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Speaker 1: Do you think we're in the end times?
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Speaker 2: How much of the world is under demonic influence at
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Speaker 2: the moment? Do you understand?
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Speaker 1: Can the enemy come in intent with sin to block
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Speaker 1: the blessing that the Lord has for you? If you
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Speaker 1: saw that the demons knew their time was up, what
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Speaker 1: did that even look like?
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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about that.
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Speaker 1: Guys, welcome back to the Jesus People podcast. We've got
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Speaker 1: the great honor of having Rian Suihalar back on the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Round four, man. I mean, shoot, it's been a minute
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Speaker 1: since we've chatted, but Definitely feel like the Lord has
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Speaker 1: done some incredible things in your life. And I always
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Speaker 1: feel connected to you, man. You're just such a great
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Speaker 1: brother in Christ. So thank you for coming back on.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. Absolutely. Such an honor for me to be back.
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Speaker 2: And I forward you some of the voice messages from
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Speaker 2: time to time from people who have reached out after
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Speaker 2: they've seen some of our previous episodes. And just to
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Speaker 2: hear people's testimonies, to hear from other fellow brothers and
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Speaker 2: sisters about their eyes have opened for certain things. It's
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Speaker 2: just incredible. So it's such a blessing. And thank you
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Speaker 2: for your platform, really. Amazing.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's really cool. I've got people coming up to
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Speaker 1: me in grocery stores and being like, I saw you
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Speaker 1: with Rian. It's changed the way I've parented. It's changed
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Speaker 1: the way we watch TV. It's changed so many things
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Speaker 1: about what we do. And that's what I want to
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Speaker 1: get into. You know, we've talked a lot about the
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Speaker 1: very dark and deep things of the world and how
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Speaker 1: the enemy's attacking and What's on the agenda for 2027
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Speaker 1: for the satanic church? And we've gone after these really
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Speaker 1: big topics. We've talked about Halloween. We've talked about yoga.
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Speaker 1: We've talked about all this stuff. But when we were
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Speaker 1: chatting the other day, you were telling me, you're like, man,
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Speaker 1: my calling is to equip the body of Christ to
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Speaker 1: know how to war in the spirit. And that's where
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Speaker 1: I want to go today. I want to go really,
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Speaker 1: really practical for you today. And I know you've got
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Speaker 1: some things on your heart that need to be shared
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Speaker 1: that are being silenced and suppressed today. Right now, online,
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Speaker 1: where people are not listening. And the one thing you
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Speaker 1: can say about Rion is you've got a track record
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Speaker 1: of being right. It's like you've called things in the
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Speaker 1: past that are coming down the pipe, ways that the
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Speaker 1: enemy's attacking, and they've happened. And so now with a
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Speaker 1: bit of history.
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Speaker 1: We can look back and be like, well, we should
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Speaker 1: probably start paying attention to some of the things you're saying,
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Speaker 1: because you're not just like prophesying. You're saying this is
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Speaker 1: what was written. This is what their agenda literally is.
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Speaker 1: And there are some things playing out right now. So
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Speaker 1: would you just tell us for every parent that's watching,
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Speaker 1: for every young person that's watching, for every person that
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Speaker 1: is saying, man, I want to arm up. I want
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Speaker 1: to grow in Jesus as much as possible. What does
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Speaker 1: the church need to be aware of right now that
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Speaker 1: we're not aware?
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Speaker 2: Okay, so I think before I say that, what we
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Speaker 2: have to realize as the followers of Christ, as the
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Speaker 2: sons and daughters of God, is that we have authority,
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Speaker 2: we have victory. We actually don't have to be afraid
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Speaker 2: of these things. So I want to start with that
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Speaker 2: because we might go into some dark things, but I
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Speaker 2: think a good place to jump off when we talk
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Speaker 2: about spiritual warfare is, know who we are in Jesus,
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Speaker 2: know that Christ has conquered the enemy on the cross,
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Speaker 2: the enemy doesn't want you to know that. The enemy
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Speaker 2: doesn't want you to actually know that he is a
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Speaker 2: fallen being. So people put, quite often, they put the
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Speaker 2: devil on this pedestal almost, or they come with this
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Speaker 2: thought that, the devil and God are still fighting on
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Speaker 2: the same level, where in fact, because Satan is a
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Speaker 2: fallen being, he is under our feet. That is how
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Speaker 2: low he actually is. So I think that is a
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Speaker 2: good place to actually stop. Just realize that it's really
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Speaker 2: in the word as well. If you get to know
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Speaker 2: the word, you will know you are in Christ. You
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Speaker 2: will start seeing How deceitful the enemy is. And the
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Speaker 2: enemy and his minions quite often uses fear to intimidate
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Speaker 2: people and especially Christians so that they don't pray. And
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Speaker 2: in a nutshell, the moment the Holy Spirit brings things
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Speaker 2: to the light, we can effectively pray and war against them.
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Speaker 2: So a very good place to start is to say, God, Father,
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Speaker 2: give me more discernment. Let my eyes open to these things.
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Speaker 2: Show me if it's anything in my life, my family's life,
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Speaker 2: that I am not aware of, that I need to
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Speaker 2: pray for and declare victory over. So that is a
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Speaker 2: good place to stop. Because somehow in the, let's call
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Speaker 2: it the church culture of yesterday, These things are approached
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Speaker 2: in a very fearful way or they don't want to
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Speaker 2: talk about it. So let's not focus on that thing.
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Speaker 2: But by addressing this, we are not glorifying the devil.
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Speaker 2: We are exposing his tactics. We are celebrating and standing
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Speaker 2: in our victory. We are standing on a very strong foundation,
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Speaker 2: which is the kingdom of God. I always loved. talking
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Speaker 2: about that and this is something that I significantly realized
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Speaker 2: coming out of a background under a car of Satanism
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Speaker 2: where I've seen real things happening and real tricks that
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Speaker 2: you can do that the devil shows you how to
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Speaker 2: do certain things and then getting to know Christ and
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Speaker 2: by accepting Jesus this is the truth for everybody by
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Speaker 2: accepting Christ We step onto a foundation that is the
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Speaker 2: kingdom of God and it's solid. And I think for anybody,
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Speaker 2: this is the one thing, if you go to anybody
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Speaker 2: that is talking on social media at the moment, coming
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Speaker 2: out of the occult, coming out of Satanism, they will
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Speaker 2: say that there's no comparison. If we compare the one kingdom,
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Speaker 2: if we want to call that side of kingdom, to
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Speaker 2: the kingdom of God. Because the kingdom of God is
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Speaker 2: a solid foundation. And every Christian and every follower of
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Speaker 2: Christ should know that before we go into war. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So what I'm hearing you say is the best way
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Speaker 1: to fight spiritually is to understand ways that you've maybe
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Speaker 1: been off, the ways you're thinking wrongly about the world.
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Speaker 1: And what I think the scriptures would call that is iniquity.
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Speaker 1: It's not blatant sin. It's hidden sin. It's lifestyle patterns
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Speaker 1: where you're just accepting certain things because the culture has
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Speaker 1: been doing those certain things. That's iniquity. So like, hey,
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Speaker 1: yoga is worshiping deities with your body. That would be
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Speaker 1: iniquity that has just seeped its way into the culture
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Speaker 1: as just something that we just do. That's just totally normal.
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Speaker 1: And it's like, no, it's not at all. You know,
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Speaker 1: there's certain things we watch on TV. There's certain things
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Speaker 1: we allow into our homes that are iniquity. And what
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Speaker 1: I'm hearing you say is that hidden sin, that hidden
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Speaker 1: lifestyle sin is the first step to saying we're going
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Speaker 1: to put up barriers against the demonic. And that's how
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Speaker 1: we're going to war first is we're going to ask
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Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit to reveal that. Is there anything in
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Speaker 1: my life where I'm seeing things wrongly, where I'm doing
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Speaker 1: things wrongly? Is there any hidden sin? Is there any
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Speaker 1: iniquity in me? And then the Holy Spirit will reveal
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Speaker 1: certain things to you if you have knowledge and discernment
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Speaker 1: and you have the humility to listen. And at that point,
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Speaker 1: you can start saying, hey, we're going to get rid
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Speaker 1: of that thing. Now, my question to you would be,
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Speaker 1: how does... Let's say someone's listening to this and you're like, man,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I have hidden sin. Maybe I've
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Speaker 1: got some things I'm doing. Maybe I've got some unforgiveness
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Speaker 1: or I'm doing some weird stuff here that I think
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Speaker 1: is just normal. I don't know. First, how does the
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Speaker 1: enemy then attack through that iniquity?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: What is an open door? We hear that term all
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Speaker 1: the time, an open door. What is an open door?
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Speaker 2: So the first thing I want to say is, is
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Speaker 2: that I just want to explain this misconception about legal rights.
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Speaker 2: Because so many Christians who have come to our ministry
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Speaker 2: for deliverance, who have been oppressed by the demonic, or
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Speaker 2: who is under severe attack, or whose family is under attack,
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Speaker 2: they will say, but somewhere I gave the enemy legal
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Speaker 2: right to do that. Now, it says in the Word
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Speaker 2: that Jesus canceled all legal rights. And legal claims against us, right?
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Speaker 2: It was canceled on the cross. It was nailed to
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Speaker 2: the cross. All right? Yeah. But we need to look
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Speaker 2: at it this way. If we think of your home
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Speaker 2: in the physical world, when somebody breaks into your house,
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Speaker 2: do they have a legal right to do that? No. No.
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Speaker 2: So that's what they do. And the enemy, the enemy kills, steals, destroys. right?
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Speaker 2: So any opportunity to do that, the enemy will take,
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Speaker 2: and that is open doors. So I like the way
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Speaker 2: that you brought up hidden sin, because we had a
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Speaker 2: couple two weeks ago, where they say they don't understand
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Speaker 2: why there is this financial block on their life because
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Speaker 2: they go to church, they have an active prayer life.
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Speaker 2: So when we started with, let's ask the Holy Spirit
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Speaker 2: to reveal to us where is the open door, where
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Speaker 2: is the healing sin that the devil doesn't want you
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Speaker 2: to even see. And so the husband then admitted that,
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Speaker 2: He looks at certain things on his phone that he's
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Speaker 2: not supposed to. Other friends send it to him, so
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Speaker 2: he doesn't actively go and look for these things. But
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Speaker 2: other friends of his send it to him, or it's
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Speaker 2: in a group or whatever. But he opens it. After
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Speaker 2: knowing the first time it was sent, this is what
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Speaker 2: happens in the group. So the righteous thing to have
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Speaker 2: done would have been to leave that group. So instead,
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Speaker 2: he stayed in the group and still opened every link.
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Speaker 2: And God showed him that you knew second, third, and
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Speaker 2: fourth time, this is what these links are when you're
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Speaker 2: going to open them. So you were supposed to then
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Speaker 2: listen and be obedient. And people think these small things
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Speaker 2: don't matter, but those would be the forms of being
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Speaker 2: in sin. And having severe trauma in your life, I'm
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Speaker 2: not saying being a victim of trauma. I'm saying about
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Speaker 2: having any type of trauma in your life that you're
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Speaker 2: not dealing with and you're putting things on the shelf.
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Speaker 2: One day I'll deal with this. Or one day I
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Speaker 2: will give up this thing or that thing. I'm not
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Speaker 2: ready at the moment. The enemy will bank on that.
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Speaker 2: And those are quite often the ways in which the
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Speaker 2: enemy finds an open door to do that. So people
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Speaker 2: are also... confused when we talk about occult activity because
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Speaker 2: I think that means going to a dark chamber under
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Speaker 2: the floor where there's an altar of candles burning. No.
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Speaker 2: It's bringing loaded objects into your house. It's doing things
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Speaker 2: that you should not actually be engaging with. And God
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Speaker 2: is very clear about this in His Word that He
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Speaker 2: does not want us to feast from another table whilst
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Speaker 2: we're supposed to be at this table. And it has
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Speaker 2: never been to control us. It's to keep us safe
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Speaker 2: and keep our covenant with Him safe. And it's also
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Speaker 2: a very good idea to spend time with God and
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Speaker 2: then ask, like I said earlier, reveal to me, what
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Speaker 2: is compromising my relationship with you? What is it that
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Speaker 2: is in my flesh, or what if me still has
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Speaker 2: to die to have the covenant that you want with
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Speaker 2: your children? And again, why would God then not reveal
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Speaker 2: this to you? Yeah, yeah. Many people walk around with
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Speaker 2: this lie from the enemy that we can't speak to
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Speaker 2: God directly, or we are not good enough. And just
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Speaker 2: remember something, is that Jesus doesn't love us. because we
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Speaker 2: are perfect. Jesus loves us because we belong to him.
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Speaker 2: So the enemy loves using guilt accusation, especially that accusation voice.
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Speaker 2: And there's a difference between how the Holy Spirit will
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Speaker 2: reveal things to us as opposed to the voice of
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Speaker 2: the accuser. Especially if it's about you're not really such
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Speaker 2: a good follower of Christ. And people go into a
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Speaker 2: real space and they avoid conversations with God. But guess what?
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Speaker 2: God already knows everything. So when we get conflicted, it
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Speaker 2: is so important to repent immediately. And if you have
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Speaker 2: to do that every day, you do it every day
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Speaker 2: because then there's not an open door. And we overcomplicate
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Speaker 2: a lot of these things where it's really simple. When
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Speaker 2: we are convicted, we repent. Jesus called people to repentance
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Speaker 2: all the time for a reason, all the time. And
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Speaker 2: it's to have that closeness so that there is nothing
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Speaker 2: between me and Jesus that the enemy can use against me. Right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I was walking the other day and I
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Speaker 1: was having this prayer walk and I asked the Lord,
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Speaker 1: I said, Lord, is there any hidden sin in me?
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Speaker 1: And I knew it was from the Lord what the
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Speaker 1: Holy Spirit whispered to me because it wasn't on my
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Speaker 1: radar at all. He said, yes, he said your phone
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Speaker 1: at night. And I go, my phone at night? And
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Speaker 1: to your point, it's not that being on my phone matters.
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Speaker 1: is like, where's chapter and verse on that? You know
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Speaker 1: what I mean? But what he was saying is he's like, man,
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Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to connect with your wife and
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Speaker 1: to connect with me. Once you get those kids down.
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Speaker 1: And you have a space of two hours. So the
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Speaker 1: repentance in me to get off my phone at night
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Speaker 1: was not necessarily like, ooh, I need to stop sinning
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Speaker 1: because he'll be really mad at me for sinning. It's no,
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Speaker 1: I need to repent of this so that I can
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Speaker 1: experience more of his presence and more of his nearness.
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what people misconstrue about repentance is
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Speaker 1: repentance is a joy. He's moving us back to himself,
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Speaker 1: and he's lifting the veil from our eyes to see
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Speaker 1: that there are some ways we've been walking that are
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Speaker 1: actually pulling us from him when he's desperate to get
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Speaker 1: us nearer to him.
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Speaker 2: Because he wants covenant. He wants us to turn our
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Speaker 2: hearts onto him to have that covenant, that relationship. Because
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Speaker 2: we are his children. We are the sons and the daughters.
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Speaker 2: And Sonship and compromise is a massive, massive tool at
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Speaker 2: the moment where the enemy is full on attacking Christians.
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Speaker 2: It's with compromise and with, I just forgot the word, compromise.
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Speaker 2: And not wanting to speak to God or thinking that
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Speaker 2: you are too dirty or too bad. We can always return.
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Speaker 2: We can always come to Jesus. And it's because of
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Speaker 2: Jesus and what Jesus did that we can go to
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Speaker 2: the Father. There's a reason the vial was torn at
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Speaker 2: the entrance of the temple when Jesus was on the cross.
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Speaker 2: I love it. It is a symbolic, it's symbolic that
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Speaker 2: we can now come to the Father. And it also
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Speaker 2: speaks of that in Romans 8. Jesus is our advocate,
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Speaker 2: sitting at the throne of God, interceding for us until
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Speaker 2: he comes. So I love it. When God looks at
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Speaker 2: you and me, he doesn't see Ryan and Ria. He
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Speaker 2: sees Jesus when we are in Christ, because he's our advocate.
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Speaker 2: And that is the thing that he doesn't want us
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Speaker 2: to know.
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Speaker 1: Guys, I have written a book. It's called A Meek
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Speaker 1: is a Mustang. This is maybe the most important thing
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Speaker 1: I've done in my life. A labor of love, a
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Speaker 1: labor of suffering, where the Holy Spirit taught me what
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Speaker 1: this word really means, where I think the devil has
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Speaker 1: completely shielded our eyes from what I believe is the
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Speaker 1: most important virtue for Christians to learn. You see, there's
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Speaker 1: only one time Jesus describes his heart and he says,
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Speaker 1: my heart is meek. And yet we think meekness means weakness.
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Speaker 1: We think it means like this kind of soft, mamby-pamby
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Speaker 1: personality type. But the Greek word for meekness means to
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Speaker 1: tame a wild Mustang into a war horse. So what
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Speaker 1: if the enemy has shielded our eyes because the key
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Speaker 1: that unlocks adventure in the kingdom of God is actually
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Speaker 1: losing your life and becoming meek? Going from being that
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Speaker 1: autonomous wild Mustang that the Greeks would go into the
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Speaker 1: mountains and They would find these wild Mustangs and they
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Speaker 1: would gentle them into war horses. And the process of
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Speaker 1: it all is so prophetic. I believe the only way
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Speaker 1: the Lord is going to use a man or a
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Speaker 1: woman on this earth is if they lose their life,
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Speaker 1: if they become meek. So my encouragement to you would be,
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Speaker 1: would you click the link in the description or the
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Speaker 1: link in the show notes? Get this book, Meek as
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Speaker 1: a Mustang. I think it's going to bless you and
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Speaker 1: it would mean a lot to me. Amen, bro.
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Speaker 2: Amen.
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Speaker 1: That is such a good foundation for this conversation. Because
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Speaker 1: I want to get into specifics and practicals because there
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Speaker 1: are some ways that the enemy is operating right now
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Speaker 1: that the children of God need to be made aware of.
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Speaker 1: I do, if you could just humor me for one minute,
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Speaker 1: I have one personal question. This might be weird to share,
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Speaker 1: but I don't really care. I was telling this to
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Speaker 1: my wife last night. Like, I've been really tempted to
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Speaker 1: look at porn recently. I confess that. It's a massive
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Speaker 1: waste of time.
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Speaker 2: Right. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And, and I, I was just, I was like literally thinking,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, man, why is this? Why is it? This
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Speaker 1: hasn't happened for a while where I've been tempted. I
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Speaker 1: haven't fallen. I haven't, I haven't looked at anything, done anything,
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Speaker 1: but I felt like I needed to share it with
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Speaker 1: my wife. And just because we have a, we've gone
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Speaker 1: through this enough now where she realizes, Hey, this, this
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Speaker 1: isn't about me. It's not that Ryan's not attracted to
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Speaker 1: me anymore. We have a great sex life. We have
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Speaker 1: a great marriage. But I felt like I needed to
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Speaker 1: communicate this to her. And the only thing I could
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Speaker 1: think of is like, why am I being so tempted recently?
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Speaker 1: You know, we we just moved and we've got you
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Speaker 1: know four kids going on five kids and there's stress
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Speaker 1: and there's all this stuff and my other thought was
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Speaker 1: maybe the Lord is about to do something maybe maybe
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Speaker 1: there's a breakthrough that's about to happen Do you think
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Speaker 1: that's maybe why he's tempting me with porn right now
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Speaker 1: is because there could be a breakthrough coming? Is that
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Speaker 1: how the enemy, does he know those things? Can the
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Speaker 1: enemy come in and tempt with sin to block the
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Speaker 1: blessing that the Lord has for you?
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Speaker 2: Is that a thing? Because he said he steals, kills,
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Speaker 2: and destroys. So whatever blessing God wants for us, and
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Speaker 2: it's not that God has the same plan for every person,
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Speaker 2: because God knows us intimately and personally. more than anybody.
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Speaker 2: But whatever blessing you are aligning to by aligning to
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Speaker 2: the will of God, by aligning to the righteousness, the
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Speaker 2: enemy is going to want to steal. Because that is
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Speaker 2: the enemy's modus operandi. It's never changed. And it will
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Speaker 2: be like that until the end of time. So we
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Speaker 2: have to keep that in mind. And I've spoken about
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Speaker 2: this as well, where in Ephesians it speaks about the
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Speaker 2: fiery arrows being shot at in our mind. So, tempting,
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Speaker 2: if we look at the devil since Genesis, temptation. So,
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Speaker 2: the idea to look at it is not the sin.
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Speaker 2: Doing it, following through on that is the sin. Do
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Speaker 2: you understand? So, the very first, if you want to
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Speaker 2: call it entry level of spiritual warfare from the enemy's
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Speaker 2: camp is shooting that fiery arrow putting that idea in
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Speaker 2: we are supposed to then say i acknowledge this and
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Speaker 2: we say it out loud because the enemy can't hear
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Speaker 2: our thoughts so demons come and they shoot that arrow
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Speaker 2: at us those those thoughts at us and they sit
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Speaker 2: and wait back you see are we going to follow
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Speaker 2: through on that where we are supposed to recognize this
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Speaker 2: is not from God. My major issue is anger and impatience, right?
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Speaker 2: So that is a sin that I've been guilty of
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Speaker 2: so many times to get these fleeting thoughts and to
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Speaker 2: especially guard my heart against it. So I have to
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Speaker 2: be consciously aware of my thoughts and it's a fleeting
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Speaker 2: thought from God or is it from the enemy? If
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Speaker 2: it's from the enemy, I say, David, I see you.
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Speaker 2: I rebuke this thought in the name of Jesus. I
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Speaker 2: take it, capture. It's done. But now see, people don't
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Speaker 2: do that, and they now follow through on that idea,
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Speaker 2: and they escape and fall into sin. Wow.
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Speaker 1: How do you know the enemy... Go ahead, keep going,
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Speaker 1: keep going.
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Speaker 2: So when we follow through... And we open that door.
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Speaker 2: And the enemy is going to use that. And next
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Speaker 2: time it becomes the next thing. All we have to
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Speaker 2: do is say, I know I am in Jesus. I
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Speaker 2: recognize this thought. And it's not from God. And I
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Speaker 2: rebuke it in the name of Jesus. Because, and I
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Speaker 2: know I've said this in a previous podcast. But I'm
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Speaker 2: going to say it again. Because it's important, especially for Christians.
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Speaker 2: We have to realize that the word of God is
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Speaker 2: the final authority on this earth, in heaven, even over hell.
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Speaker 2: It's the final authority. It is a contract. The enemy
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Speaker 2: and demons are bound to that contract as well. Their
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Speaker 2: destiny is in that contract. Our victory is in that contract.
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Speaker 2: They don't want you to know the fine print. So
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Speaker 2: read the Bible. Read your Bible. I can't say this enough.
23:47
Speaker 2: Read your Bible because the more you get to understand
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Speaker 2: the contract, the modus operandi of the devil and the demonic,
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Speaker 2: who we are in Christ, who Jesus is, who God is,
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Speaker 2: and why he's worthy to worship, how almighty he is.
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Speaker 2: The more you know that, the more you know the contract,
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Speaker 2: you can say it. And if you only know Psalm
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Speaker 2: 23 by heart, you've got one bullet in your gun
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Speaker 2: when it comes to spiritual warfare. Know your scripture. Quote
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Speaker 2: it to the enemy. Say it out loud.
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Speaker 1: Win.
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Speaker 2: Victory. Thank you, Jesus.
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Speaker 1: Ooh, it's good, man. I told you we're doing a
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Speaker 1: Bible in a year plan, right?
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Speaker 2: Yes, you did.
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Speaker 1: No, I talked to you. You got to come on it, man.
24:36
Speaker 1: Like you've got to come be a guest on it.
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Speaker 1: So we've got, man, I feel like the Holy Spirit
24:41
Speaker 1: has just been like pushing me on this. Like know
24:44
Speaker 1: the word of God, teach the word of God, embed
24:46
Speaker 1: the word of God into your life. And so, you know,
24:49
Speaker 1: there's these, there's some Bible in your plans out there
24:51
Speaker 1: that are amazing, but I'm, I'm looking at them and
24:54
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, Rion needs to teach on spiritual warfare.
24:58
Speaker 1: And Philip Anthony Mitchell needs to teach on the cost
25:00
Speaker 1: of discipleship. And Bryce Crawford needs to teach on the gospel. Dude,
25:03
Speaker 1: we've got Jonathan Picluda. We've got Jenny Allen, Lisa and
25:07
Speaker 1: John Bevere, Phil Wickham, Tiffany Hudson. Oh, gosh, Tyler Staten. Like,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to miss so many names of who we
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Speaker 1: have doing this with us. But all of these people,
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Speaker 1: all these Christian leaders are coming together to create this
25:21
Speaker 1: Bible in a Year plan that we're launching in 2027. Actually,
25:24
Speaker 1: we'll put a link in the show notes for a
25:26
Speaker 1: signup link so you can get early access to some
25:29
Speaker 1: of this content. You can get journals and all these
25:32
Speaker 1: things because my heart has been so stirred recently. Like,
25:36
Speaker 1: I believe we are in the end of times. I
25:39
Speaker 1: believe that we can see the birth pains. And I believe, man,
25:44
Speaker 1: if we're not picking up our sword, our only offensive weapon,
25:49
Speaker 1: how are you going to fight? So I guess my
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Speaker 1: question to you, Rian, would be, Do you think we're
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Speaker 1: in the end times?
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Speaker 2: So I've mentioned this before. If we look at the
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Speaker 2: world at the moment, and again, if we read our Bible,
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Speaker 2: we see what's going on. It's biblical. It's terrible. Terrible
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Speaker 2: things are happening, but it is in the Word. Just
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Speaker 2: read Revelation and look at the world, and you tell
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Speaker 2: me we're not in the end times. So I believe
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Speaker 2: we are because the Bible tells me so.
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Speaker 1: Hmm. And I remember you were telling me that it's
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Speaker 1: all inverted for Satanists. They're anticipating the coming of the
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Speaker 1: Antichrist like we're anticipating the second coming. And I remember
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Speaker 1: you saying both parties know something's up. Did I remember
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Speaker 1: that correctly?
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Speaker 2: I think so. That sounds like me. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So what were you seeing? when you were in Satanism,
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Speaker 1: and what are you seeing now from a Christian lens,
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Speaker 1: both of which communicate to you that something's happening, that
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Speaker 1: we might be in the end times right now?
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Speaker 2: Okay, so I will explain maybe what I used to
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Speaker 2: believe about the end times when I was involved in Satanism.
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Speaker 2: So I was on an absolute mission with other people
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Speaker 2: to make the world as rotten and terrible and encourage
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Speaker 2: so many people in sin and indulgence so that it
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Speaker 2: can be so bad that the Antichrist will come. Because
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Speaker 2: many scientists believe the world has to be at a
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Speaker 2: certain level of evil for the Antichrist to come. Then
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Speaker 2: he will come when the world is sufficiently prepared for him, right?
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Speaker 1: Whoa.
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Speaker 2: Whoa.
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Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So then... Years later, so over four years ago, when
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Speaker 2: I met Christ, and I went through months and months
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Speaker 2: of deliverance, and almost a whole year later, I was
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Speaker 2: called into ministry very clearly, and I was very resistant.
28:06
Speaker 2: I didn't want to do anything, and I got confirmation
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Speaker 2: from people at church, and I got confirmation from an
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Speaker 2: intercession group that I'm supposed to get more involved in ministry.
28:19
Speaker 2: So I said to God, if he wants me to
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Speaker 2: step into ministry in whichever way, he needs to show
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Speaker 2: me what is going on in the spirit world. And
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Speaker 2: if the way I perceive the spirit world for 20
28:36
Speaker 2: years in the occult, is that accurate? Is that how
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Speaker 2: it actually looks? And I had to fast for five
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Speaker 2: days before God answered me. And I remember the day
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Speaker 2: I came back from a walk speaking to God, almost
28:54
Speaker 2: being irritated because I said, God, you are giving me
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Speaker 2: all this confirmation. You are giving me word from different
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Speaker 2: people who have no idea what the conversation between you
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Speaker 2: and me is. So if you want me to do this,
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Speaker 2: remove the veil between the worlds, let me see what's
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Speaker 2: going on in terms of the times, in terms of
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Speaker 2: Why does the spirit walk? So I remember falling on
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Speaker 2: my bed, almost saying that I'm done. I just, you know,
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Speaker 2: I will serve and I need more confirmation. And God
29:30
Speaker 2: didn't remove the bangle for about five minutes. And I
29:34
Speaker 2: almost regretted begging to see because I said to God,
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Speaker 2: this is mine. condition. You know, thinking that we can't
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Speaker 2: give conditions to God. So this was more than three
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Speaker 2: years ago. And when God opened my eyes and I
29:50
Speaker 2: saw what's going on around us. And the spiritual isn't
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Speaker 2: somewhere up there as I perceive it in the occult
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Speaker 2: to be. It is here. It is around us. There
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Speaker 2: is a massive wall. And the demons know their time
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Speaker 2: is running out. And when I saw that, that they
30:09
Speaker 2: know there's an urgency. They are more loud than ever.
30:14
Speaker 2: The devil is not hiding anymore like he used to.
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Speaker 2: He is roaring like a lion going around. Yet so
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Speaker 2: many Christians are still blind to seeing him. But He
30:25
Speaker 2: is not shy anymore. He's not operating in total darkness.
30:31
Speaker 2: He's operating with darkness, but He's in plain sight. The
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Speaker 2: enemy's in plain sight. And that is why I know
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Speaker 2: we are in the end times. And I'm not giving
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Speaker 2: a time or an instrument or a date to when
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Speaker 2: Christ is returning. But I know when He's returning, He's
30:51
Speaker 2: not coming as the Savior. He's coming with a sword.
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Speaker 2: His robe will be drenched in blood. And there will
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Speaker 2: be fire in his eyes. And Jesus is the Savior
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Speaker 2: at the moment. He died on the cross for every
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Speaker 2: person on this planet. For God so loved the world.
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Speaker 2: I love every person. That is his creation. And to
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Speaker 2: answer the last part of the question, if we think
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Speaker 2: of people, who are created by God in the image
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Speaker 2: of God, is the way that people are behaving by
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Speaker 2: hurting children and animals and raping and murdering, is that
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Speaker 2: our godly nature? Is that how God created us? Or
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Speaker 2: is that another influence? So how much of the world
31:48
Speaker 2: is under demonic influence at the moment?
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Speaker 1: A lot. So you're telling me the Lord lifted the
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Speaker 1: veil for your eyes for five minutes and you saw
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Speaker 1: angels and demons fighting and you saw that the demons
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Speaker 1: knew their time was up. What did that even look like?
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Speaker 2: So I didn't say their time was up. I said
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Speaker 2: they know that the time is soon. Okay.
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Speaker 1: What did that world look like for you?
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Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about that. Okay. I've written
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Speaker 2: about it in my book. But I don't think I
32:26
Speaker 2: want to open that conversation today. But what I can
32:31
Speaker 2: tell you is, remember demons are, they don't have free will.
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Speaker 2: They are under commission. They have to achieve certain things.
32:44
Speaker 2: It's an army, Ryan. It's an army. And I could
32:48
Speaker 2: see and I know when I work with people that
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Speaker 2: demons The enemy is trying to destroy as many people
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Speaker 2: as possible and to take them to hell. That is
32:59
Speaker 2: his mission. And the devil doesn't care about occultists and Satanists.
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Speaker 2: He hates them as much as any person that's created
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Speaker 2: by God allows. So there's this perception that I had
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Speaker 2: as a Satanist that the devil is going to look
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Speaker 2: after me and the devil is giving me power. No,
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Speaker 2: the devil hates every person. And I think the moment
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Speaker 2: we see people coming out of the occult and out
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Speaker 2: of Satanism and they realize the lies and how much
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Speaker 2: their enemy actually despises and hates them, even before they
33:36
Speaker 2: give their lives to Christ, that's what it's about. And
33:41
Speaker 2: remember that the devil can't copy or create. He can
33:47
Speaker 2: only imitate what God has created. But through deception and
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Speaker 2: through things, it's destroying families. It's destroying people. And this
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Speaker 2: whole thing about pornography, it's one of the most powerful
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Speaker 2: enemies in the weaponry of the devil. More than 72%
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Speaker 2: of men in the church worldwide has pornography addictions.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: More than 70, go and do the research, please. And
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Speaker 2: somebody like you who work with young men, and I
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Speaker 2: feel you do, I don't know why, but I feel
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Speaker 2: that God is showing me that you have a say
34:33
Speaker 2: and a voice. You need to address that with them
34:38
Speaker 2: because there's this shame around it. Something that God created
34:42
Speaker 2: in terms of our sexual side or... For a man
34:47
Speaker 2: and a woman to come together, it is created by God.
34:52
Speaker 2: It gets perverted by the enemy. So many men want
34:57
Speaker 2: to know about sexual things, which they should probably supposed to.
35:03
Speaker 2: But the enemy will use that opportunity. And children of
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Speaker 2: 1911 start looking at pornography. It is a weapon. Married couples,
35:18
Speaker 2: it is a weapon against it. The enemy wants to destroy.
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Speaker 2: And we can take it from Genesis, like I said.
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Speaker 2: The earliest thing we see about the enemy, temptation, temptation, compromise.
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Speaker 2: That is how we open doors, you see.
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Speaker 1: When you were the, well, I guess I'll put it
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Speaker 1: this way. How did you seek to use pornography when
35:47
Speaker 1: you were the head of the Church of Satan in
35:49
Speaker 1: South Africa? Were there specific ways that you tried to
35:52
Speaker 1: proliferate this?
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Speaker 2: Not me personally, but I was around people who did that.
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Speaker 1: That was their role?
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Speaker 2: Yes. So Satanism has a very organized structure and it's
36:07
Speaker 2: a network and there's different roles assigned to different people
36:11
Speaker 2: as they sometimes come into covens and It works almost
36:16
Speaker 2: like a pyramid where there's people at the top and
36:19
Speaker 2: there's certain duties and responsibilities that are assigned to leaders
36:23
Speaker 2: of smaller groups and then to leaders of bigger groups
36:26
Speaker 2: like the Grottos. And I don't know if you want
36:30
Speaker 2: to talk about how children are being targeted through online
36:36
Speaker 2: gaming for Satanism. I don't know if you want to
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Speaker 2: talk about that today or next time.
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Speaker 1: I for sure... I want to talk– here's what I'm
36:45
Speaker 1: passionate about right now. I am seeing the world is
36:51
Speaker 1: shifting and moving and evolving at a rate that we
36:55
Speaker 1: have never witnessed in human history. Elon Musk just posted
36:58
Speaker 1: a graph. of the rate at which AI is progressing.
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Speaker 2: And it's insane.
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Speaker 1: The curve, it's like in the last year has gone 10X,
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Speaker 1: 100X of the progression of AI. What that tells me
37:14
Speaker 1: is that tells me that the demonic is going to
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Speaker 1: start using it and that Christian parents and Christian families
37:20
Speaker 1: are unaware. So I want to talk about online gaming.
37:24
Speaker 1: I want to talk about how to protect our children,
37:27
Speaker 1: how to protect our marriages. Even what you've got a
37:31
Speaker 1: really unique lens. You've got a really unique outlook on
37:34
Speaker 1: these things because you saw the agendas. You had these
37:40
Speaker 1: ideas of how to tempt the children of God using technology.
37:44
Speaker 1: What are you seeing coming with AI as it pertains
37:47
Speaker 1: to how children will be targeted, how marriages will be targeted,
37:50
Speaker 1: and what we can do about it as Christians to
37:51
Speaker 1: guard ourselves?
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Speaker 2: Of course. So again, twisting the truth. giving people false information,
38:01
Speaker 2: it will sound like the truth. Remember, deception is not
38:05
Speaker 2: 100% a lie. There's nine truths and one line in it.
38:11
Speaker 2: So discernment and sharpening your discernment is going to be
38:15
Speaker 2: very important. Because especially in the next two, three years,
38:21
Speaker 2: if you can't get to a point where you look
38:24
Speaker 2: at something on your phone or your computer, any picture,
38:28
Speaker 2: And now immediately if this is AI or not, you
38:31
Speaker 2: have a problem and you're going to be deceived by
38:33
Speaker 2: a lot of things because it's going to look so real.
38:38
Speaker 2: And for some people it already does, but it's going
38:41
Speaker 2: to come to a point. There's a thing with virtual
38:47
Speaker 2: reality that's going to be incorporated into AI where you
38:51
Speaker 2: can literally live in an alternative world, where you can
38:55
Speaker 2: have alternative experiences. You don't even have to go outside
38:58
Speaker 2: your house anymore. And things are going to be fed
39:02
Speaker 2: through that. And it's going to become such an addiction
39:08
Speaker 2: for people, which it already is. I mean, but coming
39:12
Speaker 2: back to the gaming aspect.
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Speaker 1: Can I pause you there, Rian? How do you know this?
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Speaker 1: How do you know that people will be living in
39:19
Speaker 1: these virtual worlds?
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Speaker 2: So that was one of the things that was on
39:23
Speaker 2: the agenda. Really? Yeah, What you will see with virtual
39:28
Speaker 2: reality and the goggles, it's going to become so affordable
39:33
Speaker 2: that anybody can go into a shop and buy it.
39:36
Speaker 2: Whereas now, there's still a level of you have to
39:40
Speaker 2: have a certain amount of money really to have full
39:43
Speaker 2: access to those experiences. So when there's an announcement, that
39:48
Speaker 2: there is now such a new, amazing product with virtual
39:52
Speaker 2: reality and having these headsets that anybody can now access.
39:58
Speaker 2: Children can receive their schooling and education through an interactive experience.
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Speaker 2: Look at that. Pray about it when that happens. If
40:06
Speaker 2: you want to expose your children, your family to that.
40:11
Speaker 2: Couples can go on virtual reality honeymoons. Hmm. Look at that.
40:19
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying listen to me, but pray about
40:23
Speaker 2: these things when it rolls out. And it's something I've
40:28
Speaker 2: been trying to talk about for three years now on
40:32
Speaker 2: my own platforms and videos get removed and people call
40:37
Speaker 2: me a conspiracy theorist is how children are being recruited
40:41
Speaker 2: into Satanism through gaming. Because... So... Like I said earlier,
40:48
Speaker 2: there's certain roles assigned to people when they join covens
40:53
Speaker 2: and grottos in Satanism. So some people are given a
40:57
Speaker 2: role of being called a contact, right? So if you
41:03
Speaker 2: can successfully recruit children into doing certain things on camera,
41:11
Speaker 2: you climb the hierarchy in Satanism. Because there's money behind it,
41:16
Speaker 2: you see. So, if you look at anything, why does
41:20
Speaker 2: it exist? Why does Child P exist? Because there's money
41:28
Speaker 2: paid for it. That's why it's so massive. And it
41:33
Speaker 2: runs through a pyramid in Satanism. Money runs down. It's
41:38
Speaker 2: massive bucks we're talking about. Also, cryptocurrency. And I saw
41:42
Speaker 2: these things. And How they will do this is I've
41:47
Speaker 2: seen people sit in offices where they have, well, 14
41:52
Speaker 2: screens where they can live view children playing certain games
41:56
Speaker 2: at that moment. That child thinks, because that child is 8, 9,
42:01
Speaker 2: 11 years old, that child thinks he's playing games online
42:05
Speaker 2: with another child. He's talking to another friend on Roblox
42:10
Speaker 2: and Minecraft that's giving him game credits to play more
42:14
Speaker 2: games together. And that's how it starts with the kids.
42:18
Speaker 2: Slowly but surely they get ruined. The child gets dead
42:22
Speaker 2: to do things, to hurt animals, to sacrifice animals on camera.
42:28
Speaker 2: And then that gets turned around and they get blackmailed.
42:32
Speaker 2: Then they are forced to do it to other children
42:34
Speaker 2: as well. To start like that. So we have this
42:38
Speaker 2: network around the world at the moment. And two weeks ago,
42:42
Speaker 2: a 16-year-old boy got arrested up the street here because
42:51
Speaker 2: it came out that he's active on this network. So
42:57
Speaker 2: very affluent family, privately stayed. Last year, when I went
43:03
Speaker 2: to schools in this area, I said, please make parents
43:07
Speaker 2: aware of what's happening on online gaming, especially the moment
43:11
Speaker 2: they start talking to other friends. This principal of the
43:15
Speaker 2: school tells me this is not a problem with high
43:19
Speaker 2: socioeconomic world families. And I'm like, excuse me, what happens
43:24
Speaker 2: in affluent families is that children are given devices because
43:29
Speaker 2: parents can't spend time with their children. So they're given
43:32
Speaker 2: iPads and iPhones and gaming devices and computers and laptops
43:37
Speaker 2: to keep them busy, unsupervised. Right now, at this very moment,
43:42
Speaker 2: there's sexual predators, there's spiritual predators after your child. At
43:47
Speaker 2: this moment, right now, it happens around the clock. And
43:51
Speaker 2: they are recruiting children into doing things and drawing symbols
43:57
Speaker 2: on their naked bodies, cutting themselves, sacrificing animals, thinking that
44:02
Speaker 2: afraid is daring them or that they can get more
44:05
Speaker 2: credits to play a game, right? So, and that is
44:12
Speaker 2: really about the majority of people involved in Satanism at
44:17
Speaker 2: the moment know that they are in the 50s and 60s,
44:21
Speaker 2: and they are going to die one day. They need
44:23
Speaker 2: to recruit much younger people into Satanism. They need to
44:28
Speaker 2: desensitize families to the occult by using certain symbols, and
44:35
Speaker 2: hand signals in music videos, online, on social media, that
44:40
Speaker 2: people become so used to it. And that's why I'm
44:42
Speaker 2: saying the devil is not hiding anymore. He is walking around,
44:48
Speaker 2: roaring like a lion. He's proud, but yet people still
44:51
Speaker 2: don't seem to care.
44:54
Speaker 1: Hey guys, I want to take a break and I
44:55
Speaker 1: want to tell you about a ministry that's really near
44:57
Speaker 1: and dear to my heart. It's called Global Christian Relief.
44:59
Speaker 1: And this is the organization that's going into Pakistan and
45:02
Speaker 1: freeing slaves, going into Nigeria and providing support for Christians
45:06
Speaker 1: who have fled Boko Haram and the Fulani and are
45:09
Speaker 1: now living in camps. They're providing food, shelter, medical aid
45:13
Speaker 1: for a fraction of what it costs for us to live.
45:17
Speaker 1: I'm talking a minuscule amount to take care of our
45:20
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters in Christ right now who are being massacred.
45:23
Speaker 1: And my encouragement to you would be to give a
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45:31
Speaker 1: brothers and sisters in Christ who are being killed right now,
45:34
Speaker 1: who are being ostracized right now, who are being enslaved
45:36
Speaker 1: right now. And know that Jesus said, whatever you did
45:38
Speaker 1: for the least of these brothers, you did for me.
45:41
Speaker 1: So you bless Jesus on this earth right now through
45:44
Speaker 1: the persecuted body.
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Speaker 2: Shoot, man.
45:46
Speaker 1: What you're saying is there is a concerted effort from
45:49
Speaker 1: the satanic church right now to target children. They're posing
45:56
Speaker 1: as children through games like Minecraft and Roblox. They have
45:59
Speaker 1: multiple computer screens in front of them. They're actively targeting
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Speaker 1: them to get them to draw symbols on their bodies,
46:05
Speaker 1: to get naked. That money gets funneled down through child
46:09
Speaker 1: pornography and it's being sold on the black market. And
46:13
Speaker 1: ultimately the goal is to recruit them into Satanism, to
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Speaker 1: sexploit them in order to cause shame to fill them
46:21
Speaker 1: so that you can use them for whatever you want.
46:24
Speaker 1: And this is like.
46:25
Speaker 2: So the children getting erased it is not the keeper
46:29
Speaker 2: that's sitting behind it, but they're getting the children to
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Speaker 2: spread the material. They're getting the children to literally be
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Speaker 2: a puppet so that the people who's actually behind it,
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Speaker 2: the guy who started this network in the state of
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Speaker 2: what's actually in Canada was erased it in 2023 already,
46:49
Speaker 2: but the network has grown so massively. Hmm. This is
46:54
Speaker 2: a very openly satanic network. You can do your research.
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Speaker 2: Go and look at the 764 network. And when I
47:04
Speaker 2: started talking about these.
47:05
Speaker 1: Things, The 764 network.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
47:08
Speaker 1: That's the name of it?
47:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, 764 network. So it's around the world. It's not
47:15
Speaker 2: just in certain parts of the world. It is literally
47:18
Speaker 2: now around the world. Children who are actively participating in
47:26
Speaker 2: online communication, even on TikTok, Minecraft, Roblox, are being targeted.
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Speaker 1: So what's your message to parents? How do parents guard
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Speaker 1: against this?
47:41
Speaker 2: I'm not saying don't let your child be online, because
47:44
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. But again, pray, have discernment, Ask God, if
47:51
Speaker 2: there's anything here that I'm not seeing, reveal it to me.
47:57
Speaker 2: And pray the blood of Christ over your children. And
48:00
Speaker 2: we've spoken about this before as well. It is so important.
48:04
Speaker 2: And you as the parent who have spiritual authority in
48:09
Speaker 2: the spirit world over your children, don't have open doors.
48:13
Speaker 2: Don't compromise your covenant with God so that you can
48:18
Speaker 2: stand in for your family. It's really as simple as that.
48:23
Speaker 2: Because these are the realities of what's going on in
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Speaker 2: the world, in the cyberspace, whatever you want to call it.
48:33
Speaker 2: And it is moving at such a fast pace, as
48:36
Speaker 2: you said, that it is an AI that can create
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Speaker 2: pictures of children where these predators can show that, but
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Speaker 2: this is me. This is how I look. A child
48:48
Speaker 2: with an eight to nine-year-old brain is not going to
48:52
Speaker 2: know the difference. They are going to believe they are
48:55
Speaker 2: playing games with other children. Dude.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so school just started for a lot of parents.
49:02
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about the impact of prayer and
49:07
Speaker 1: certain teachers and the assignment in the Satanic Church. Would
49:10
Speaker 1: you just mind, for people who haven't listened to previous
49:13
Speaker 1: episodes of the podcast with Rion, could you break that
49:17
Speaker 1: down for us again? What parents need to understand?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. So I will, I will answer it again in
49:25
Speaker 2: two parts just to make it practical. So when I
49:30
Speaker 2: was involved in, in the satanic church and, add socials
49:35
Speaker 2: for other people. There were these groups of people that
49:38
Speaker 2: will group together. So the musicians used to group together,
49:44
Speaker 2: have socials and have conversations. And the teachers that were in,
49:49
Speaker 2: that most of them still is involved in cyclism, would
49:52
Speaker 2: group together at socials. And one of the conversations that
49:56
Speaker 2: they used to have was that there's certain children in
50:01
Speaker 2: closets that they can't astral project to. They can't get
50:06
Speaker 2: through to them. So one of the things that people
50:11
Speaker 2: do is, especially that's a lot in the carbon cyclism,
50:15
Speaker 2: they would astrally project to children or whatever, for whatever
50:21
Speaker 2: the assignment is.
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Speaker 1: Is that planting thoughts in their heads? What is astral projection?
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Speaker 2: Yes. Okay. So you get astral travel, which is going
50:29
Speaker 2: into the astral realms, which is a really long conversation.
50:33
Speaker 2: And then you get projection by projecting certain emotions or
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Speaker 2: thoughts or ideas into other people, especially younger people and
50:43
Speaker 2: people who are more open. So this group of teachers
50:47
Speaker 2: would always say, there's certain children in the clubs that
50:52
Speaker 2: you can't ask or project to, that you can't penetrate.
50:57
Speaker 2: And they never understood it because they thought either they
51:00
Speaker 2: must have more gifts or talents that they are born with,
51:05
Speaker 2: or they are going to more powerful witches. Like these
51:09
Speaker 2: are all the jokes and conversations. So after I left
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Speaker 2: the satanic church and where I came to Christ, I
51:17
Speaker 2: met up with one of those women three years ago
51:21
Speaker 2: that also begged her heart to Christ, one of those teachers, right?
51:26
Speaker 2: And she said to me, you will never believe this.
51:30
Speaker 2: God showed her the reason that she couldn't do that,
51:34
Speaker 2: that she couldn't penetrate those children's mind space, was that
51:41
Speaker 2: those were the parents, the children of parents that were
51:44
Speaker 2: prayed over. where the parents covered the children with the
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Speaker 2: blood of Christ before they left for school that morning.
51:52
Speaker 2: And it looked like, she said it looked like a
51:54
Speaker 2: blue porch circle around these children that they just couldn't
51:59
Speaker 2: get through. And God then revealed to her after she
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Speaker 2: came to Christ and after she went through deliverance that
52:05
Speaker 2: these were the children where they were prayed over, that
52:10
Speaker 2: parents took their authority, their manners, and prayed over their children. Hmm. Powerful, man. Powerful. Wow.
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Speaker 1: So as parents, the way we arm up and we
52:26
Speaker 1: protect our children is one, we need to start with
52:30
Speaker 1: prayer ourselves and ask the Holy Spirit, is there any
52:32
Speaker 1: hidden sin in me? Are there any open doors that
52:36
Speaker 1: can allow a crack for the enemy to sneak in
52:39
Speaker 1: my family?
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Speaker 2: That's number one.
52:40
Speaker 1: Number two, what I'm hearing you say is we need
52:42
Speaker 1: discernment to know how the enemy is Not just the
52:45
Speaker 1: satanic church, but the enemy is attacking how he's going
52:48
Speaker 1: after our children. And right now it's happening through online gaming.
52:51
Speaker 1: It's happening through screens in general. And then number three,
52:55
Speaker 1: he's attacking through school. And there are teachers that are
52:58
Speaker 1: part of the satanic church that are literally implanting thoughts
53:04
Speaker 1: into children's minds. Would the satanic church, this is my question,
53:06
Speaker 1: would the satanic church go out and recruit teachers?
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Speaker 2: No, it's done through online platforms. I remember that the
53:16
Speaker 2: way that Satanism and the occult operated in the 80s
53:20
Speaker 2: is vastly different than what we see today because of technology.
53:24
Speaker 2: So if you think of the 80s, people had to
53:28
Speaker 2: meet under bridges or reply to coded messages in the classifieds.
53:34
Speaker 2: That's why Satanism has grown so massively as well because
53:38
Speaker 2: recruitment is so much easier and Putting out where certain
53:43
Speaker 2: locations is where you can meet people to find out
53:46
Speaker 2: more about Satanism is much easier today. The Satanic Bible
53:50
Speaker 2: can be downloaded free on the internet by children. That
53:55
Speaker 2: wasn't the case years ago. You understand? So that's what
53:58
Speaker 2: we're talking about. But besides Satanism, and let's put Satanism aside,
54:05
Speaker 2: the enemy is actively after your children. So we do
54:13
Speaker 2: not have to be afraid of it. And the other
54:15
Speaker 2: point that we should add is that no scripture, no
54:20
Speaker 2: your Bible, no your authority, no your identity. We do
54:25
Speaker 2: not have to be afraid of the devil at all.
54:28
Speaker 2: The devil was conquered on the cross and by the
54:33
Speaker 2: words of the resurrection and We can stand in that
54:37
Speaker 2: and we can stand on that. We need to know
54:40
Speaker 2: we are in Christ. We need to know that when
54:45
Speaker 2: we surrender and we come to Jesus, we become part
54:52
Speaker 2: of that kingdom. We stand on that foundation. We fight
54:58
Speaker 2: from victory already. We're not fighting towards it. We have
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Speaker 2: no victory in Christ. Amen. Amen.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I have one question that I have to ask
55:08
Speaker 1: you because I think you saw me on Russell Brand's
55:11
Speaker 1: podcast talking about the attack that happened after our first
55:14
Speaker 1: podcast together. And I was telling him this story about
55:17
Speaker 1: how I had you on the podcast. Our family gets
55:19
Speaker 1: crazy attacked. You shared with me that the satanic church
55:23
Speaker 1: in South Africa and in America that our podcast was
55:27
Speaker 1: populating the message boards online. And there was attacks being
55:30
Speaker 1: sent our way. The one thing I haven't been able
55:33
Speaker 1: to wrap my mind around is that there were snakes
55:38
Speaker 1: that were coming out. And you know, this, as I
55:40
Speaker 1: would just be walking, I'm like in a nice neighborhood
55:43
Speaker 1: in Dallas, Texas and snakes, dude, multiple in a 10
55:47
Speaker 1: minute walk would run out in front of my feet.
55:50
Speaker 1: It gives me the willies thinking about it now for
55:53
Speaker 1: like four months, three months, this was happening. And when
55:57
Speaker 1: I called you and I told you this, you go, oh, yeah,
56:00
Speaker 1: I used to do that to people. That makes sense.
56:02
Speaker 1: Snakes are on the same frequency as us. And I
56:06
Speaker 1: never knew what that meant. I mean, it's been over
56:08
Speaker 1: a year now and I've been dying to ask you,
56:11
Speaker 1: what does that even mean that snakes are on the
56:13
Speaker 1: same frequency as the demonic?
56:15
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to go through the steps on
56:19
Speaker 2: how to do it or how we used to do
56:21
Speaker 2: it because I don't want to teach people to be
56:23
Speaker 2: better witches or Satanists. Obviously not.
56:26
Speaker 1: Yes, thank you.
56:27
Speaker 2: I used to do that years ago. But no, because
56:31
Speaker 2: I have an idea of who watches our podcast. But
56:35
Speaker 2: so there's very specific techniques to do that. And what
56:40
Speaker 2: they would usually do, and this is part of curses, right?
56:43
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying that the demonic uses the snakes.
56:48
Speaker 2: I'm saying that the attack is demonic and the demonic
56:52
Speaker 2: gets harvested to make it manifest in that way. And
56:56
Speaker 2: that if we look at the serpent and the symbolic
56:59
Speaker 2: thing of the serpent and what it represents with the
57:02
Speaker 2: occult in the spiritual realm, that is why it's a
57:05
Speaker 2: favorite to go to. So when a person is targeted,
57:09
Speaker 2: they will actually scan the area that you live in
57:12
Speaker 2: and they will look, is there any snakes? That's like
57:15
Speaker 2: I said, the first go-to. Is there any snakes in
57:18
Speaker 2: that person's area that we can utilize as weapons to
57:22
Speaker 2: make them feel fulfilled? Because if they can, if they
57:26
Speaker 2: can get you to a point of having fear, they
57:30
Speaker 2: can start attacking you on a spiritual level. And again,
57:34
Speaker 2: I think a part of my testimony that is absolutely
57:38
Speaker 2: awesome of just know that God will use anything to
57:43
Speaker 2: turn it towards his kingdom is that the Halloween before
57:48
Speaker 2: I met Jesus, so I met Christ in May 2022.
57:52
Speaker 2: So the October before that, I got 8,000 witches to
57:59
Speaker 2: curse Adele in exactly the same way. But almost 8,000
58:05
Speaker 2: witches to throw these curses at her. So not just
58:10
Speaker 2: that nothing happened because she was standing in righteousness and
58:13
Speaker 2: still is, but because she was in that righteousness and
58:17
Speaker 2: had no open doors, it didn't affect her at all, nothing.
58:22
Speaker 2: And God turned that into our ministry today. So the
58:26
Speaker 2: person I did this to is my ministry partner today. Amen.
58:35
Speaker 2: Very cool. Very cool.
58:36
Speaker 1: Well, I think the one thing I've taken from you,
58:40
Speaker 1: and it's not just like I've taken this in a
58:42
Speaker 1: head knowledge way, I've felt it physically. I've felt it
58:47
Speaker 1: like in my confidence is you talk about our authority
58:52
Speaker 1: and you You know, of course, we need to pray
58:56
Speaker 1: before we go into a conversation like this. I was
58:58
Speaker 1: texting prayer partners before we even have a conversation that
59:02
Speaker 1: I know are going to war in the spirit for us.
59:06
Speaker 1: But what I've heard you say multiple times is the
59:09
Speaker 1: enemy attacks first. with fear. And I'm wondering if you
59:13
Speaker 1: could break that down for us a little bit more,
59:16
Speaker 1: because that's what I've experienced with you now being friends for,
59:19
Speaker 1: you know, over a year now is like, whenever I
59:22
Speaker 1: start to feel this fear bubble up, I think back
59:24
Speaker 1: to our conversations. And I think this is actually the
59:27
Speaker 1: first step of an enemy attack.
59:31
Speaker 2: Yes, because there's a difference between having fear for God
59:37
Speaker 2: or fearfully looking at God and fear, right? So God
59:43
Speaker 2: is love. The opposite of love is not anger. It's fear.
59:50
Speaker 2: If we look at a dog that growls at a person,
59:55
Speaker 2: is the dog angry or is he fearful, right? Fearful, yeah.
1:00:01
Speaker 2: It's the opposite of feeling safe. It's the opposite of love.
1:00:05
Speaker 2: God is love. The opposite is fear. It is a
1:00:09
Speaker 2: tactic that the demonic, that the enemy will use to
1:00:14
Speaker 2: make you fearful of who we are in Christ. Am
1:00:17
Speaker 2: I really safe? What if I can't? What if I
1:00:22
Speaker 2: can't do what God wants of me? When God, if
1:00:27
Speaker 2: we look at the word, right? So I'm reading the
1:00:30
Speaker 2: word now the third time from start to finish. But
1:00:34
Speaker 2: how many people where God gave their certain commandments or
1:00:39
Speaker 2: things or commands in the word, how many people initially
1:00:45
Speaker 2: were fearful and they didn't do it? And God had
1:00:49
Speaker 2: to come and say, come children now, come Moses, come,
1:00:52
Speaker 2: you know, Elijah. Why are you hiding here? Yeah. You see,
1:01:01
Speaker 2: because that is from the enemy. And it's such a
1:01:07
Speaker 2: powerful human emotion. So every person on this planet has
1:01:14
Speaker 2: the ability to be in fear so the enemy will
1:01:18
Speaker 2: use that. Because he can use it. But we are
1:01:22
Speaker 2: supposed to say, because of Of God, anything is possible
1:01:27
Speaker 2: because I am in Christ, because I know I am
1:01:29
Speaker 2: in Christ. God didn't call us for a spirit of
1:01:32
Speaker 2: fear to have a spirit of fear. It's in the word.
1:01:34
Speaker 2: Why is it in the word? Why is it the
1:01:37
Speaker 2: most repeated phrase in the Bible? Do not fear. Do
1:01:42
Speaker 2: not be fearful. Why do you think? Because God knows
1:01:46
Speaker 2: the enemy uses it.
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Speaker 1: Guys, I want to take a quick break and I
1:01:49
Speaker 1: just want to share a data point with you. 83%
1:01:52
Speaker 1: of the people watching this video right now have not
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Speaker 1: subscribed to the channel, whether it's on a streaming app
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Speaker 1: or whether it's on YouTube. And my ask, if this,
1:01:59
Speaker 1: if this ministry has meant something to you, the most
1:02:01
Speaker 1: simple way you can support us, the most free way
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Speaker 1: you can support us is just to subscribe. What that
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Speaker 1: does is it gets the gospel out. It gets the
1:02:08
Speaker 1: stories of Jesus, his word and his people out to
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Speaker 1: more people. And that's really my hope with this ministry
1:02:13
Speaker 1: is I just want to reach people. I want to
1:02:15
Speaker 1: reach the lost. I want to tell the stories of
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Speaker 1: of God's anointed men and women on this planet. And
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Speaker 1: so if you would just subscribe, it would mean the
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Speaker 2: Amen.
1:02:23
Speaker 1: Man, people ask me all the time. They're like, what was,
1:02:27
Speaker 1: what's your favorite podcast you've ever done? And no offense
1:02:30
Speaker 1: to you, Rian, but it's Carol Ward. Carol was a missionary. Well,
1:02:38
Speaker 1: her dad was a missionary in the Philippines. And she
1:02:41
Speaker 1: grew up with the current modern day ISIS fighters. So
1:02:44
Speaker 1: her dad was going after these radical Muslims. And she
1:02:49
Speaker 1: watched her dad sacrifice everything to reach these people. And
1:02:53
Speaker 1: she prayed from the time she was 10 years old.
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Speaker 1: This is a 10-year-old praying this. Lord, would you give
1:02:58
Speaker 1: me the honor of being a martyr one day? Can
1:03:01
Speaker 1: you imagine a fifth grader praying that?
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Speaker 2: It's crazy.
1:03:04
Speaker 1: And for seven years, he doesn't respond to her. But
1:03:06
Speaker 1: when she's 17, he whispers to her. She says, Lord,
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Speaker 1: would you give me the honor of being a martyr
1:03:11
Speaker 1: one day? He goes, not until you lose your fear.
1:03:15
Speaker 1: And she goes, okay, Lord, then give me more faith.
1:03:18
Speaker 1: And he says, it won't be your faith that drives
1:03:19
Speaker 1: out your fear. It'll be your love. And she says, okay, Lord,
1:03:22
Speaker 1: then baptize me in love. Dude, this lady, she goes on,
1:03:26
Speaker 1: she prays this prayer. She says, Lord, send me where
1:03:28
Speaker 1: no one else wants to go. So the Lord sends
1:03:30
Speaker 1: her to South Sudan. When Joseph Kony was terrorizing South Sudan,
1:03:35
Speaker 1: getting child, like kidnapping whole villages of children, turning them
1:03:38
Speaker 1: into child soldiers, brainwashing them, going to the next village,
1:03:41
Speaker 1: wiping them out. She was the OG missionary boots on
1:03:44
Speaker 1: the ground, saving these children. She gets kidnapped by these
1:03:47
Speaker 1: two Dinka fighters. And she knows what happens when the
1:03:51
Speaker 1: Dinka fighters kidnap you. One sits on her left in
1:03:54
Speaker 1: the back seat of this car. One sits on her
1:03:56
Speaker 1: right and they say, drive. They'll drive you five hours
1:03:59
Speaker 1: into the bush. They'll rape you and they'll kill you
1:04:01
Speaker 1: and they'll burn the car and leave. They just do
1:04:03
Speaker 1: this on repeat. And so she instinctually knows, she knows
1:04:07
Speaker 1: that this is about what's about to happen to her.
1:04:11
Speaker 1: And she says, okay, Lord, baptize me in love again.
1:04:14
Speaker 1: How can I love these men right now? And she
1:04:16
Speaker 1: turns to one of them and she goes, what is
1:04:18
Speaker 1: your name? And he like really hardened goes, my name
1:04:21
Speaker 1: is Jacob. And she goes, oh my.
1:04:25
Speaker 2: Goodness.
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Speaker 1: She's like this little Southern lady. She goes, do you
1:04:28
Speaker 1: know there's a whole book written about you?
1:04:30
Speaker 3: And she starts telling this kid, like she's a school
1:04:33
Speaker 3: teacher or this, this man, like she's a school teacher
1:04:36
Speaker 3: teaching a kid goes through Genesis to Jesus for four hours.
1:04:42
Speaker 1: And these Dinka fighters become like little children. And finally
1:04:46
Speaker 1: they get to this point where she asks, she tells
1:04:49
Speaker 1: him the gospel story. She asked him if they want
1:04:51
Speaker 1: to accept Jesus. And they're like emotional. They're like, yes,
1:04:54
Speaker 1: we want Jesus. And then they turned to her and
1:04:57
Speaker 1: Jacob looks at her and goes, do you know what
1:05:00
Speaker 1: we were about to do to you? And she goes,
1:05:02
Speaker 1: oh yes, Jacob, I know. And he goes, can you
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Speaker 1: turn this car around? Can you take us back to
1:05:09
Speaker 1: our village? I want you to tell that story to
1:05:12
Speaker 1: our entire village. She goes, do you know what that
1:05:15
Speaker 1: makes you, Jacob? She goes, turn the car around. Guy
1:05:18
Speaker 1: turns the car around. They put down their guns. Do
1:05:20
Speaker 1: you know what this makes you, Jacob? He goes, no.
1:05:23
Speaker 1: He goes, it makes you my brother and me your sister.
1:05:27
Speaker 1: And it also now makes you a missionary. He stepped
1:05:30
Speaker 1: in that car as a murderer and a terrorist and
1:05:34
Speaker 1: a rapist and left as a missionary. And the whole
1:05:36
Speaker 1: village got saved because she became baptized in love and
1:05:40
Speaker 1: it drove out her fear. That's Jesus. Praise Jesus. I
1:05:44
Speaker 1: want to land this plane because I'm so grateful for you, Rihanna.
1:05:47
Speaker 1: I was just praying this morning. You are one of
1:05:50
Speaker 1: the most pure hearted men of God.
1:05:52
Speaker 2: I know.
1:05:53
Speaker 1: And I'm, I'm so grateful to have you as a brother.
1:05:55
Speaker 1: When I, when I pray, when I pray for you
1:05:58
Speaker 1: and when I'm around you, you know, like I do
1:06:00
Speaker 1: a lot of these podcasts where I'm around a lot
1:06:01
Speaker 1: of people. I just sense this childlike purity and love.
1:06:08
Speaker 1: And I just want you to know that. And I
1:06:09
Speaker 1: just love you so much as a brother, but the
1:06:11
Speaker 1: thing that you have imparted to me more than anything
1:06:14
Speaker 1: in our four podcasts and our friendships, that we've had
1:06:17
Speaker 1: for over a year now is you have inspired me
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Speaker 1: to lose my fear, to become love and to get
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Speaker 1: my eyes. As much as we talk about the demonic
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Speaker 1: and we talk about spiritual warfare, you've actually gotten my
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Speaker 1: eyes off of that and gotten more onto Jesus. And
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Speaker 1: I feel like that's the message you can really give.
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Speaker 1: So I just want to say, thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: You are a blessing to so many Rian.
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Speaker 2: It's all Jesus. It's not me. I'm so not worthy.
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Speaker 2: It's all God.
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Speaker 1: Amen. Amen. Well, you are a willing vessel and there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of fruit coming from your life and from
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Speaker 1: your ministry. So we've got a few projects that are
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Speaker 1: kind of a surprise coming out, you and I, with
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Speaker 1: a film coming out. And then we've got this Bible
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Speaker 1: in a Year plan. Would love to get you on that.
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Speaker 1: That's coming out January 1st, 2027. But Rion, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much. Thank you for being a brother. Thank you
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Speaker 1: for being faithful. Thank you. Thank you, Jesus, for the
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Speaker 1: story you've given Rion, that you have taken this man
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Speaker 1: out of the mud, that you have revealed yourself to
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Speaker 1: him and that he has yielded his entire life to you.
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Speaker 1: And God, we just pray right now for the viewer.
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Speaker 1: We ask for all fear to be driven out by
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Speaker 1: love in Jesus' name. We don't fear the darkness. We
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Speaker 1: just light the candle. We just show your love. We
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Speaker 1: lift the basket off of the light and we let
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Speaker 1: our light shine so that all can see. And that
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Speaker 1: light is Christ, the hope of glory in us, shining
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Speaker 1: through us. And so we reject fear. We say, fear,
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Speaker 1: you can go to hell. They do not belong in
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Speaker 1: our families, in our minds. We take all the flaming
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Speaker 1: darts captive. I pray for any flaming arrows that may
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Speaker 1: have penetrated for the listener, the viewer right now, that
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Speaker 1: they would be aware of them right now in Jesus' name.
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Speaker 1: And they would take them captive and throw them in
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Speaker 1: the trash. And they would pick up the word of
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Speaker 1: God and they would consume it and recognize your love
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Speaker 1: for them and recognize their authority. You've called us children.
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Speaker 1: We carry the aroma of Christ, the same spirit that
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Speaker 1: rose Jesus. from the dead lives in us. The same
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Speaker 1: spirit that stomped the serpent's head lives in us right now.
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Speaker 1: And so Rion, I bless you in the name of Jesus.
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Speaker 1: I just pray for more fruit. I pray for more opportunities.
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Speaker 1: I pray for more encounters with Jesus and more miracles
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Speaker 1: and more of his presence and a deeper understanding of
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Speaker 1: his word and his love for you. And I pray
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Speaker 1: that over the viewer and the listener as well right now.
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Speaker 1: In Jesus name, we love you. We love you. We
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Speaker 1: love you, Lord. Amen.
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Speaker 2: Amen. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1: Rion, you're the man. I love you, bro.
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Speaker 2: God bless you.
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Speaker 1: God bless you guys. Thank you for tuning into the
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Speaker 1: Jesus People podcast. I hope you've enjoyed it. this one
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Speaker 1: as I have. We will see you guys next week.