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#158: Scream 6 (2023) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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movie? Not every movie names of post
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credits Sam. Welcome to Watch A Least Scary
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Movie, The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the
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ugly and the absurd, and all of our favorite and least favorite
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scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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movie rightfully has its fan base.
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Even if we don't always get. It my name is Travis.
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My name is Jesse. And today, sadly for now, we are
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closing out our coverage of the Scream franchise with 2020
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Three's Scream 6. Yeah, but at least we're gonna.
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We know that a 7th is coming eventually, so whenever that
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comes out, we'll cover it. Yeah, we'll get to it
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eventually, but yeah, so we're gonna go ahead and we're just
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gonna hop right into. Brought into the newest
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installment, it's kind of interesting having one that's so
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fresh for us. Yeah, I know, right?
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It feels. I know it came out this year,
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but it doesn't feel like it, you know?
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It feels like it's been forever ago.
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Yeah, no. When I was getting movies to
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compare it to like, I had a moment where I was like this is
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weird and I realized we haven't covered any 2023 movies so far.
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Are you sure? In 2023, Yeah, cuz.
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Terrified too. That was 2022.
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Holy shit, you're right. Wow, for some reason I thought
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we. Would know cuz I went through
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the same thought process. OK.
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Well, I I guess because we did so many 2022 movies before and
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the beginning of the year. Yeah, I thought like, oh, sure.
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Yeah, we've been like deep into 2023 content.
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That's cool. I'm glad that this is a first
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then. Yeah.
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All right. Yeah.
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We're kind of far enough into the year now that I guess we can
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start doing that. Yeah, yeah.
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It's, I don't know, halfway point.
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Kind of wild. Yeah, yeah.
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All right, cool. Well, do you have any
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announcements or anything? I do not, other than we'll have
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our Patreon bonus episode for budget level patrons out
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sometime probably this weekend, I think.
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Yeah, I think so too. And is what we'll try and do.
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We know it's going to be too. We're going to cover one of the
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Friday the 13th fan films. Never Hike Alone.
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I think that's what it's called. Don't ask me.
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Yeah, I mess it up every time. It's the one that is like the
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most well known, and from everything that I've heard, I've
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not seen it, but I've heard it seems pretty much like studio
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quality. It even has Tom Matthews
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reprising his role as Tommy, So that's pretty sweet.
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I'm excited about that. Yeah, so that'll be over on
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Patreon if you choose to donate at a budget level.
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Yeah. Okay so.
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If you know what, you need no budget or Patreon subscription
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to do what? Vote in our polls.
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That's true, which that just requires you to go to social
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media. So I've got our results too,
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Okay from last week's poll. So last week we talked about
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I'll Always know what you did last summer.
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Which the resounding feedback has been, huh?
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I didn't realize this movie existed.
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Yeah, so. That still blows me away, that
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people didn't know about that. But you know, I mean, sure like
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it. I guess that's a testament to
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how forgettable the movie itself is.
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I'm sorry for people who are like big fans of it, but it just
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seems like people don't know it exists.
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Well, you even forgot to do a tagline for it.
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That's how I forget the. Movie is Well, I feel like the
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movie itself also forgot to do a tagline for it because it just
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had those two that were. I feel uninspired.
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OK, well the poll for this is we wanted to know who moved the
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mattress. Who moved the fucking mattress?
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We never got resolution on that and I'm still furious.
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OK, so first the options. Yeah, the options are PJ Sheriff
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Davis, the fisherman or someone doing their job.
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Yeah, somebody's just doing their job because there's a town
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fair going on. See a mattress lying around?
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Yeah, you're going to clean that up.
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Yeah, somebody littered. Somebody just put their old
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discarded furniture here. That is not.
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Listen, they have a generous like public waste policy, They
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will pick up furniture on trash day as long as you have it at
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the curb. It's got to be at the curb.
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Maybe that's where it went to. That's where your.
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Tax dollars are going to people. So, OK, Twitter nobody thinks
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it's PJ, nobody thinks it's Sheriff Davis, 25% think it's
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the fishermen, and 75% just think it's somebody doing their
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job, OK? And Instagram, 17% think it's
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PJ, 17% think it's Sheriff Davis, 33% think it's the
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Fisherman, 33% think it's someone doing their job.
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I want the head cannons of the people that think it's PJ or
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Sheriff Davis. Well.
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I want to know what background they're writing for those
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characters. I'm not mad about it, to be
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clear, I am. Intrigued because.
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I'll provide one for PJ, OK? Because I just came up with one.
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I don't think that he would have wanted to just like, you know,
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jump off the building and just, you know, die I.
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Don't think he wanted to impale himself.
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On track? I don't think so, but I think he
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did want to come off with some stylish trick.
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I think he was planning on jumping off there and grinding
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on it, going full of Tony Hawk. Or he briefly covered the fact
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that he was forced to enlist in the Marines.
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His. Dad.
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Yeah, yeah. So maybe he was like, trying to
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get an honorable DC before he even, like, really got started.
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And maybe Sheriff moved it because he didn't want to join
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the Marines. So he's like, you know what?
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If you're not gonna join the Marines, you're gonna get
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impelled. Yeah, OK.
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I mean, it's somebody doing the damn job.
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Come on. Yeah, that's definitely what it
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is. Yeah, as much as I want to
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believe it's PJ trying to do a sick skateboarding trick, I know
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in my heart that somebody is just responsible there that day
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at the fair. Yeah, I just want like the
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deleted scene of like, somebody over there.
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Like moving equipment and feeling why?
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Why are these mattresses here? It's gonna be one of the most
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uneventful deleted scenes over essential to the plot, but so
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boring to watch. I can see why it would be
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deleted. OK.
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OK. That's it.
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That's their poll. All right.
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All right. Let's talk about Screamy.
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Let's talk about. Screamy.
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Yeah, I love how they still call The Scream, but it's like
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screamy, like they're stretching real hard with the titles this
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time. I don't know if you noticed in
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our document where I put like all of our like show
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descriptions. Yeah, every so often when it
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gets too full, I start a new one.
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I did notice I. Don't know if you noticed the
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name of the newest one. I forget what it was called.
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What was? It show V notes cuz we're on.
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That's. It for work, yeah?
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Or show V notes I guess will in case I have you for four.
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OK, so stream six. Wait on me, Jesse.
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OK, release date March 10th, 2023.
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We watched it on Paramount Plus, but it is also available for
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streaming as of July 22nd on YouTube Prime.
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Or Prime Premium. Or you can rent it through Red
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Box, Google Play or Voodoo. It is gonna be one of the more
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expensive rentals of a movie we've covered on the show
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because it is so new, but it's only $6 cheaper than a movie
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ticket. That's not too bad, yeah.
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Yeah, it's worth the price of admission.
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Or just get a free trial to Paramount, just if you really
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wanted to watch it. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of
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good stuff on Paramount. You can catch up on Jackass.
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That's. Literally, we got a Paramount
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Plus subscription because we went and saw Jackass Forever in
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theaters and decided we wanted to watch more Jackass that
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night. And also Ink Master.
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And Ink Master. And then we were watching
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Survivor, and there's just a bunch of stuff on there.
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It's. Just stuff.
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It's just solid, Yeah. Written by James Vanderbilt and
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Guy. Music based on characters by
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Kevin Williamson. Directed by Matt Betanelli Open
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and Tyler Gillette of Ready of Silence.
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Music by Brian Tyler. This time they brought in Sven
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Falconer to help. Who's that?
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Just the other music person. Oh, OK.
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I didn't know if it was like a recognizable name or something.
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No, I'm just all of the the writing and direction of music
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team were all the same from last time with the addition of Sven
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and Falconer. I got you.
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OK, Just the way you said that I was like and spin.
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I was like, ooh who's spin sounds important.
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You're welcome, Spin. Special effects makeup.
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I'm assuming it's some sort of a group because there's like 10
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million names. Oh yeah, but we have Caroline
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Aquin, Matthew Binyon Dalton, Kutch, Adrian Morat, Kathy C,
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Mona C, and Vague Varthurian. Is it Kathy C, Mona C or Kathy C
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and then also Mona C as another person?
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They're those separate people. OK, Kathy C, Mona CII like that
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as a name. CC.
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Kathy C. Kathy.
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Ohh Boiler C We're off to a strong start on this one.
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Kathy TSC. OK, Mona TSC.
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OK, OK, I gotcha. I gotcha.
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I can't handle names. Today, I'm sorry I'm when doing
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the reading. You shouldn't even be having a
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problem today. It's already blowing my mind.
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Starring Melissa Barrera, Sam Carpenter, Jenna Ortegas, Tara
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Carpenter, Courtney Cox's GAIL Weathers, Jasmine Savoy Brown as
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Mindy Meeks, Martin Mason Gooding is Chad Meeks Martin.
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And I'm going to go ahead and stop us now because we talked
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about this off air last time. Travis didn't learn until after
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we recorded our episode on screen 2022 that.
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Mason Gooding is Cuba Gooding, Junior's son.
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Yeah, right. I.
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And I had fully expected you to ask about it on air, and you
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never did and I never brought it up, but yeah.
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I I just like, I don't know the Gooding name didn't.
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He doesn't even really look like him.
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Honestly. Like I feel like he probably
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favors more his mom's side of the family because we we covered
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prom ride. That's Cuba Gooding's brother
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was there. That's definitely, you know Cuba
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Gooding genes right there. But this guy right here?
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Not so much. Roger L Jackson is the Voice
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Dermot Mulroney is Detective Bailey, Jack Champion is Ethan
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Landry, Jack Champion. Leanna Liberto is Quinn Bailey.
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Josh Segarra is Danny Bracket, Hayden Panettiere as Kirkby Reed
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and Max Laferrier as Ghostface. Goddamn, there's a lot of people
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in this movie. I know.
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And I left that one I got. Yeah, yeah.
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And she's so she's like, she's there, but she's like not much
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of. It he has like 2 lines.
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Yeah, she has a cool death. Yeah.
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But like, other than that, what kind of impact does she have?
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You know, she doesn't really have much of an influence in the
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movie. She's barely even a love
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interest to Mindy. Like, you know what I mean?
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We see him cuddle on the couch. That's it.
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Like they don't even see him close other than that.
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OK, now it's time for our favorite game.
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Budget or. Budget.
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Definitely budget. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, super
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budget. I bet it's even more money than
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five. $35 million. OK, I can't remember what Fives
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was. I don't remember off the top of
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my head. Opening box office of 44 million
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Worldwide gross of 168,000,000 IMDb of 6.6 out of 10.
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OK, so Scream 6 gets 6.6. That's great.
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Good for them. I picked 3 movies that released
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this year, 2023 and my theme was movies that we all saw in the
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theater. OK, not we all saw, but like you
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and I. That we did, Yeah.
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Everybody listening. Yeah, we in.
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The theater. Cool.
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OK. Wow.
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OK, this is gonna be fun. First one evil dead rise.
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Ooh, yeah. OK.
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That released April 21st, 2023. Budget of $12 million and a
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worldwide growth of $146,000,000.
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Damn, 12 million. That's like, barely budget.
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Yeah, that one was gonna be straight to streaming for a
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while. I'm glad it went to theaters and
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I'm glad we went and saw it in theaters.
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I think I would have enjoyed it just as much if it went straight
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to streaming, but I'm glad that it did so well, because that
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means we'll likely get more Evil Dead.
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IMDb score also a 6.6 out of 10 Really.
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So I think we're seeing kind of what the people want this this
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year. Seems like it. 2nd movie
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Infinity Pool. Ohh wow.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. That did come out this year.
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Yeah, sure did. Sure you did.
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One of the scars Guards and Mia Goff.
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That one is a little piss baby. That one.
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One. Of my favorite lines I've ever
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heard of it. Was it?
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Was it was fine. You know, like it didn't blow me
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away it everybody hyped it up as this like crazy fucking
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experience. And then I watched it and I was
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expecting it to go so over the top, but then it really didn't
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really. It didn't take full advantage of
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the concept, I don't think. All right.
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Plus me and God's character gets really fucking grating after
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like a little bit. Like, especially when she's on
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the hood of the car. I can't.
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I love it. I love it.
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All she's great. She's great as an actor, like,
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and she knows that right there. I'm sure that's what it was
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supposed to be, but God damn it. Like it was like getting to love
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all. Of it.
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OK, I'm happy for you. That could not find a budget
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listed. Really.
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Yeah. Wow.
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Yeah. You would think it would be
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somewhere, cuz that's David Cronenberg's son.
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Yeah, right. Cronenberg You would think he
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he's it's not his debut movie so.
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Yeah, still haven't seen the first one, Pisaster.
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I really wanna watch that one though.
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Infinity pool had a worldwide gross of 5,000,000.
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Only $5,000,000? I don't know.
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Holy shit, I thought it did way better than that.
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It currently has an IMDb rating of 6.1 out of ton.
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So they're all in the sixes. That's good.
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I think it's on its way to becoming a cult classic.
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I don't think you can call. Maybe that's only six months
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old. A cult classic.
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But too soon. But it's on its way.
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I think a six is right for that. And then finally M3 again.
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Hey M3 again. Yeah, that was released January
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6th, 2023. That just tell you something.
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I generally can't call that movie.
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Megan Yeah. It's like in my hand I only read
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it as M3 again M. Three again, yeah.
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And whenever people say yeah, Megan, I'm like.
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Uh, oh. Oh, yeah.
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In three. Yeah.
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Yeah. OK.
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We had a cat named Megan, and so I like, physically can't call
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this movie Megan because then it becomes like a cat in a little
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Victorian doll dress in my head. I like that I do.
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Potential sequel? Um, that had a budget of 12
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million. So same as Evil did rise.
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Wow. OK.
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And it had a worldwide gross of 179,000,000.
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Mmhmm, I remember that. One fucking killed, yeah.
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Well, 'cause that one like. It was a little bit more
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accessible for like a wider audience.
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Yeah, definitely. It has a 6.4 out of 10 on IMDb.
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Damn. OK, wow.
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So another It seems like another solid year for horror.
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Yeah, I mean, we're not having like release, release, release,
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release, like in your face. But yeah, everything that's come
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out has been pretty solid. Yeah, it's like the worst movie.
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You see this year's Infinity pool like it's a really solid.
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Yeah. Although I'm sure I've seen the
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worst one so far. I can't remember though.
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You've blocked it out. And you're gonna hate them.
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Yeah, OK, only two taglines. No Boo.
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Only two. What's I know the one on the
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poster? New movie, New rules.
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Nope. New city, new rules.
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Nope. New York.
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New rules. Ah, fuck you, God damn it.
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New York. And you know what?
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That one's just stupid enough to work like New York.
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New Rules, baby. OK, sure.
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It's just saying it's unique New York, unique New York.
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Yeah, OK. In a city of 1,000,000, no one
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hears you scream. Well, they do.
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They just kind of ignore you. Yeah, they're like, that's not
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our business. Yeah, they're not gonna get.
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It's space, man. It's like, you know, they can
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hear it. They just don't give a shit.
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Yeah. OK, so Are you ready for some
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fun effects? I sure am.
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OK, so this is the first of the Scream franchise where there is
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no appearance by Neve Campbell. There was a pay dispute and I
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want to go ahead and just read the snippet.
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I'm sure most people have seen this quote posted around the
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Internet because it was kind of a big deal around the time that
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this was announced. As a woman, I've had to work
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extremely hard in my career to establish my value, especially
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when it comes to Scream. I felt the offer that was
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presented to me did not equate to the value I have brought to
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the franchise. It's been a very difficult
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decision to move on. To all my Scream fans, I love
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you. You've always been so incredibly
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supportive to me. I'm forever grateful to you and
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to what this franchise has given me over the past 25 years, and I
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thought that this was kind of an important point to bring up
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because we are still. Witnessing the strikes going on,
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lots of strikes happening. We've got WGA, SAG, AFTRA, we've
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got UPS gearing up to do a strike, pay people what they're
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worth. That's, I mean they're they're
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the people doing the work, are the ones that are making a
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business or a franchise or whatever profitable.
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They deserve to be able to. Live without constantly
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struggling and like breaking their backs, trying to work
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overtime or pick up multiple jobs or anything like that.
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Like you shouldn't have to do that to survive.
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Yeah, definitely. And I 100% understand where
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she's coming from with this right here.
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Like, yeah, you need like, that's her franchise right
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there. Yeah, and especially.
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I mean, I'm, I'm going to speak to this as well.
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The the pay gap is a very real thing.
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I know people try to say that like it's not true and that oh,
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women typically work this kind of job versus the men working
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that I'm. I'm not going to go into how
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incorrect that analysis of the the wage gap is, but it is a
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very real thing. You know, there's a glass
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ceiling unfortunately for a reason, and I think it's really
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like. Her comment in regards to that
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hits home still and then in terms of just being valued for
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the work you do is also very relevant right now.
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Yeah, definitely. And I feel kind of bad because
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it's true that this movie doesn't need her.
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Like even though it's the 6th one and like you know, it's her
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franchise, like her character wise, though, it does make sense
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for her to just not be there. Yes, like story wise, I get it.
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But I'm always gonna be sad to not have her.
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I know. You know, it's like it always
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makes it better. It's like having Laurie Strode
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in a Halloween movie. Like, it's always good.
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I mean, and honestly, I hate to say this, I feel like we really
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didn't need GAIL either. We didn't, no.
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But like and she's like, she's. Barely a part of this.
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I feel like the last movie was like, here's a torch and like
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the new cast were like, alright cool, we're grabbing the torch
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and it's been passed. You know what though?
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I will say like, I think there was one good thing about having
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GAIL in here and they even acknowledge it in the movie.
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They never had an interaction like her and Ghost Face ever
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did. And they finally gave her that
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this sign. Yeah, but they didn't kill her.
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Yeah, but GAIL like. Fuck.
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What's her name? Courtney Cox.
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Courtney Cox? Why did I not remember?
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That I don't know. She said that she'll always do
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these movies, so she's always going to be there.
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She doesn't have to worry about the money quite as much because
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she's got that friend's money. Yeah, like she gets like
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millions of dollars a year for not doing anything.
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Well, and you know what? You know what?
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They had like their own little mini strike on set.
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The whole cast banded together to make sure that they were all
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played equally and they were gonna no and friends.
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Oh really? Yeah, cuz they were.
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Yeah, cuz they were gonna give certain.
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Actors more money than others. And they were like, no.
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And again, that is a good reason.
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What companies don't want you to discuss the pay that you're
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getting. If you guys all are on the same
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page, you can. If your company tells you that
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you're not allowed to discuss your pay, they are telling you
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something illegal, you're fully allowed to discuss your pay.
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I've seen it for a second. Yeah, you can.
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Well, good. That's cool.
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Okay, I think the good news about.
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Nev's decision is that she was well supported by her peers,
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like all of her castmates. Like they all like supported her
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decision and they agree that she's she's worth what she was
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asking for. I wonder how much she was asking
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and how much she was offered. I wish that was leaked.
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I don't know, but I also know that she said she wasn't very
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happy with the amount she got for Screen 5 and she just, she
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didn't feel good about it afterwards and she didn't want
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to do that again. I I totally understand it, yeah.
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So here's something a little. Suspect In a December 2022
21:25
interview, Radio silence said that Nev's absence greatly
21:31
affected the script. Really.
21:33
However, in March 2023, they said there was very little
21:37
changed in the script. OK, so a little bit of
21:42
backtracking or inconsist. I don't know something since
21:45
it's a little weird there. Do you think that they replaced
21:48
her with another character? But like, who could have then?
21:52
I don't know, because Kirby was announced like earlier, like.
21:56
Yeah, like earlier on, like, I feel like they were laying the
21:59
groundwork for that in five, you know, when they were like making
22:02
sure that people are aware that she is alive.
22:05
Well, and she's always been like a fan favorite.
22:07
Yeah. So OK, this is the first entry
22:13
in the franchise to earn over $100 million domestic since
22:18
Scream 2. Seriously, I guess it's kind of
22:21
fitting right? Cuz this is the new trilogy,
22:24
Scream too. Yeah, HM yeah, just just another
22:28
parallel. Yeah, Scream too.
22:30
That's so weird. Yeah.
22:32
Principal photography ran from June 9th, 2022 to late August.
22:38
Love the specificity of that okay.
22:41
So two months. So this I thought was
22:43
interesting and I'm really excited for when we actually own
22:46
this on physical media cuz as of.
22:50
Recording this This is the only one we do not actually own yet,
22:55
because it just released, right? Yeah.
22:57
So we haven't had a chance to get it yet.
22:59
I'm gonna be really excited for behind the scenes, the subway
23:02
scene was actually all practical.
23:04
There's no green screen at all. And they shot it like on a set,
23:08
like they pulled like a. The subway car and everything to
23:11
get like the movement for the tracking shots.
23:13
Yeah, that's cool, you know? Yeah, I've heard of those sets
23:16
being built like that. That's pretty cool, though.
23:19
Yeah, interesting. Yeah, so I thought that was
23:20
pretty fun. And it it's probably cheaper to
23:23
actually build that set than to try and get into a New York
23:28
subway station, get that cleared out for filming.
23:31
There are, I have heard and I don't know if I guess is like
23:35
just one city or like, you know, a couple of cities, but like
23:38
they have trains and like subway rails, like railways for that
23:43
purpose. Like it's not used for actual
23:45
like commerce or like travel or commuting.
23:48
I should say it's yeah, it's like just for filming things.
23:52
I forget which podcast it was that I heard this on, but
23:55
there's like this specific bridge that so many commercials
23:59
and movies are shot at that like if you live near it.
24:03
You pretty much have to know an alternate route because, like,
24:07
it's a 5050 of if you were trying to drive that direction,
24:10
you're not going to be able to go through because it's always
24:12
shut down for filming. Let's go suck living in a town
24:15
like Atlanta and LA where there's like a lot of filming,
24:17
and like Canada too, I think like Toronto and places like
24:20
that have that too. I wonder whether this was
24:22
filmed. Do you have that information?
24:25
No, I do not have that information.
24:27
I'm gonna guess mostly LA. Maybe.
24:31
It's on the fact that it's sets. I feel like, you know, well,
24:35
yeah, I got hope that they have the actual outside in the city.
24:38
They're in the city for a good portion of the movie, too.
24:42
Yeah, I don't know. Let's see.
24:44
So the items in the shrine are not actual props from previous
24:50
movies. Kind of.
24:51
That would be really cool if they could have pulled them out
24:53
of the vault, but they're just recreations done by the art and
24:55
costuming departments. By the way, sorry, this was
24:58
filmed in Canada. Montreal.
25:00
Yeah, yeah, I think that would have been cool.
25:03
I mean, they could have done it, I'm sure.
25:05
Unless, you know, the actors took props themselves and they
25:08
couldn't get them back. Well, and sometimes, like movies
25:10
will auction off their old props.
25:12
Yeah, true. I mean, we see that all the
25:14
time. Like Scare Fest, you see them in
25:16
display cases, just yeah. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
25:20
So there was actually some really fun viral marketing that
25:23
happened with this. I think most notable is that
25:26
Ghostfaces would pop up. Ghostfaces would pop up at
25:31
random places. I don't know.
25:32
When was it? A baseball game?
25:35
A Ghostface? MM HM Wait, like people like
25:38
wearing the mask? MM HM?
25:40
Come on, they're. Masking the cloak.
25:41
They're copying the fucking smile.
25:43
Marketing. There was a game of like in like
25:47
a baseball game. There was like actually multiple
25:49
games where there was somebody standing behind the catcher just
25:52
smiling the entire time. This is like up in the, like,
25:56
Bleacher arena seating, OK. I mean it's still like.
26:01
Audience Yeah, this is the audience too, you know.
26:03
You get to see behind them too, at the baseball games.
26:06
No, I'm saying the ghost faces were in the audience.
26:09
Yeah. So where were these people?
26:10
OK, but whatever anyway. That was one thing and it caught
26:15
it prompted 911 calls. Some other viral marketing that
26:18
they did was they did a website where you could get a
26:22
personalized Ghostface call. Really.
26:25
And they also did scream meals in pop up diners, and the meals
26:31
featured props and reconstructed sets and then appearances by
26:36
casting crew members. How the fuck do we not hear
26:38
about any of this stuff? Kinda.
26:41
Well, cuz we did our very best to avoid all forms of marketing
26:44
with us. I guess that's true.
26:45
Yeah, I guess that's one of the one of the downsides.
26:48
Of avoiding advertising. Yeah, I seriously did.
26:51
Like, anytime anything like with this movie came on, I plugged my
26:54
ears and I just closed my eyes. I just did not listen or hear
26:58
any or see anything. Yeah, yeah.
27:00
OK, so that is all of the information I have and that
27:04
means that we're ready to start discussing, hey?
27:07
So Travis, OK. What's good about this movie?
27:13
All right. I think that taking this movie
27:16
to New York is what this franchise needed.
27:20
I feel like they needed to shake things up and give you like, a
27:21
different type of setting. We've had it in the city before
27:24
we had LA, but they focus more on, like, the Hollywood aspect
27:27
rather than it being, like a populated area.
27:30
Yeah, the whole point of this right here is you're around so
27:33
many people, so it gives you these interesting set pieces
27:36
that haven't really happened before.
27:37
Because usually the whole point is like, Ghostface is going to
27:40
isolate you and then that's when he strikes.
27:42
But here there's like so many scenes of him just doing it out
27:45
on the streets in a fucking bodega.
27:47
It's so cool. I feel like this movie is just
27:51
like that right there. Lends it to a more fun
27:53
experience for me. Like whenever he's in that store
27:57
and just like taking the fucking shotgun to the whole place,
28:00
like, I'm just like smiling the entire time because it's so much
28:03
fun. Yeah, I think the acting is a
28:06
whole lot better. I feel like the characters are a
28:08
whole lot better. Melissa Barrera actually is,
28:11
like, great in this movie. Yeah, and I know that she was
28:14
one of people's biggest complaints from 5:00, but yeah,
28:18
I could tell that she really improved upon herself.
28:22
Again, I don't know if it was her or the script or the
28:25
direction or whatever that happened in part 5, but we can
28:28
see in this one that she. She's got the chops.
28:30
I don't, yeah, I don't know what it was.
28:31
But like, I mean, it's like we said in five, like, she can't
28:34
really. She wasn't able to emote with
28:36
her eyes or her, like, eyebrows. But like, watching it this time,
28:40
I was paying attention to it and I saw her eyes and eyebrows,
28:43
like, you know, reflecting her emotion actually, instead of it
28:47
just being like, blank. So yeah, I mean, there's more to
28:51
it, but those are the things that stick out the most to me
28:54
about this one. I This is just it's a fun movie.
28:58
It is. It's a fun movie.
29:00
I know it's long. For a horror movie, it's about
29:03
two hours. But The thing is, like when
29:06
we're watching it in theaters, I just kept thinking, I do not
29:09
want this to be over. See.
29:11
Yeah, and like, this is a slack. People were giving terror fire
29:15
to shit for being a slash. Or that's over 2 hours.
29:17
So this one's over 2 hours. And I couldn't fucking tell
29:19
that. Like whenever I learned that it
29:21
was over 2 hours, I was shocked. Yeah.
29:23
Terror fire, I think. I fully realized it was 2 hours
29:25
until last night when we paused. Briefly and so on.
29:29
Yeah. I think I remember whenever we
29:30
were talking about this with Steve on the decision reel,
29:33
that's whenever I realize. Yeah, you can check out our
29:36
immediate thoughts after our first watch through of Scream
29:40
Six over at The Decision Reel. This is actually our second
29:43
watch. We had not watched it.
29:45
Yeah, well cuz we knew it was coming.
29:46
Yeah, we didn't wanna. We wanted to be able to react
29:50
freshly to it again. Yeah, exactly.
29:52
Recording. Because we don't get to do that
29:53
very often with our franchises. Yeah, true.
29:56
And also with Scream, like Scream 5I loved it whenever it
29:59
came out and then whenever we talked about it, like upon
30:02
second watch, I was a little bit less high on it.
30:05
But this one right here, different.
30:06
Like, you know, I was high on it and then I've I'm still high on
30:09
it today. Yeah, yeah.
30:11
This is when I'm very excited for rewatches.
30:14
I yeah, I like the storytelling of it.
30:17
I like. I I I just like a lot about it.
30:21
I like that we talk about found family.
30:24
I think that's an interesting piece of the trauma that the
30:27
girls are going through, because Sam's situation with the fathers
30:34
in her life was crucial to her character, and I like that we're
30:40
exploring more of that dynamic. Yeah, definitely.
30:44
And I'm I'm a very big believer in the importance of found
30:47
family and that biology isn't necessarily everything.
30:52
The be all, end all of who you should say belongs in your life.
30:56
And I I love it when a movie like acknowledges that out loud.
31:02
Yeah, I I love that. Also, like, I, I, there's a lot
31:06
of really fun parallels between this and Scream, too.
31:09
Yeah, right. I mean, like, it's basically
31:12
another take on Scream two almost.
31:14
You're moving them out of Woodsboro.
31:17
It's like the father. The open and kill is in a very
31:20
public place. Yeah, true.
31:22
Yeah, the killer in the previous movie's parent is the killer in
31:26
this movie. It's a revenge scream by a
31:29
parent. I do like that.
31:34
One of my favorite things. I wanna say that's another thing
31:37
too. Is that the motive in this one?
31:39
It is really good. I just love a good old fashioned
31:41
revenge story and I think it just, it holds up really well.
31:44
Yeah, I like the Tara is more of a part of this instead of, you
31:48
know, Bed Bound. I feel like that's like a thing.
31:51
Like I understand doing that in movies, like, you know, same
31:54
thing with like Warry and Halloween 2 and all the others.
31:57
But I feel like it always kind of like, hinders the characters
32:01
when they're just like stuck like that.
32:02
Injured. Yeah, the entire movie.
32:04
Yeah, You know, like he or she's actually able to, like, be a
32:07
part of the action the entire time.
32:08
Yeah, and we get to have so much more fun with her as a
32:11
character. And again, it's showing like the
32:14
different ways of dealing with trauma because she is very much
32:16
like ignoring it. Sam is trying to deal with it
32:20
head on. Mindy is like, Yep, it happened.
32:23
I'm scared, but I don't think it's gonna happen again.
32:25
She thinks she's ignoring trauma.
32:27
Tara Yeah. Yeah, you think she's ignoring
32:29
it? Yes.
32:30
I feel like she's just trying to like live her life.
32:33
I don't think she's like, you know, pushing it like deep
32:35
inside like, I don't know, I. No, she's ignoring it.
32:38
You think so? She it is explicitly stated in
32:42
the film that she is ignoring it.
32:44
It just doesn't feel like it ever like.
32:45
It just feels like she's like she's the one trying to go about
32:48
a normal life, you know? Like, yeah, fucked up shit
32:50
happened. But like the entire movie, she's
32:53
kind of trying to have a normal life.
32:55
Meanwhile, Sam is the one that is like the most heavily
32:58
traumatized. That's what I mean by She's
33:01
ignoring it. She's trying to act like none of
33:03
that stuff ever happened to her and that it had no impact on
33:06
her. And that is how you have, like,
33:07
repressed memories and shit comes up later and you're like,
33:10
huh, why do I have this particular response to the
33:12
situation? I'm never gonna unpack that.
33:15
Like, I'm just saying like, it's not visible and everybody
33:18
handles trauma differently. So, like, you know, I think it's
33:21
fair. Saying she is handling it
33:22
differently by ignoring it. I'm I'm just trying to say like
33:25
I feel like people handle it a little bit differently and I
33:28
feel like it just because it's not explicitly like shown like I
33:32
I feel like that's not necessarily saying that it's
33:36
like that she is automatically suppressing it, you know what I
33:40
mean? We literally open up with her
33:42
going and getting drunk at a frat party and making bad
33:45
decisions. So college.
33:48
Yeah, but like, it's explicitly tied to her not wanting to deal
33:52
with what happened to her if you say so.
33:55
I don't have to say so. The movie says so.
33:58
OK, whatever. I guess I'm wrong.
34:01
I'm just saying, I'm not saying that it's not a thing that she's
34:04
doing. She is just trying to live her
34:06
life. But like if something like that
34:08
happens to you, it's gonna like mess with your brain.
34:13
Like that's how the brain works. You develop like.
34:16
All of these different ideas of how the world works.
34:18
And so your brain forms these connections and it's like, oh,
34:21
this is the response that you should have to this type of
34:23
thing. So by not addressing the trauma
34:25
that she's going through, she's going to have like responses and
34:28
reactions to different types of situations and she's not going
34:32
to always know what it means. Your brain relies on like schema
34:37
and context and it it's weird the things that will trigger
34:43
things in you. So Travis was the dad.
34:49
They I I don't really feel like the killers.
34:52
I feel like the dad is fine, but I feel like the roommate Ethan
34:57
and the other roommate Quinn. They feel like afterthoughts.
35:01
I don't really feel like they are like, good killers, you know
35:05
what I mean? Like, they're just not really
35:07
build up enough to like, whenever the reveal happens, I'm
35:11
like, OK, whatever. Like, I guess you had to have it
35:14
be somebody. It's not like anybody important,
35:19
which is kind of lame. I feel like it's nice to have
35:22
these things like be impactful. But with this right here, it's
35:26
just like these are three people that we have no history of in
35:30
prior movies. They're introduced in this movie
35:32
and they're the killers, so whatever.
35:34
Yeah, it's always nice when it's actually somebody entwined in
35:38
like the friend group that's actually like a part of them,
35:41
rather than somebody that like just happened to be there and is
35:44
like thrown away because of that.
35:45
I think it would have been better for Ethan to be the one
35:49
that was killed earlier because he doesn't seem like he actually
35:52
cares about being part of the friend group.
35:53
He only gets pulled in because he's Chad's roommate, whereas
35:56
like. Quinn seems to have a connection
35:59
with Sam and Tara. Like, we do get those moments
36:01
with her early on, but she gets killed off, so we don't really
36:04
get to see more of her. She gets killed off like, way
36:06
too soon. Yes, yeah, I think.
36:08
I think I would have swapped them.
36:10
Yeah. I think you're right.
36:11
Yeah. Yeah, I guess she had more
36:13
potential. But still, like for me, I wanted
36:16
like I would want this to be somebody closer.
36:20
You know also, I don't know. Again, it's kind of like in
36:24
Scream too, where it's just like, yeah, and they're probably
36:28
the 2nd weakest batch of killers.
36:31
You know what I mean? I don't feel like that's like
36:33
saying anything good. Like, you know, it's just like
36:36
Billy's mom and fucking Timothy Olyphant, who is kind of there
36:42
but not really that important. He just kind of like, is another
36:45
movie nerd, you know what I mean?
36:47
Like, OK, cool, like, whatever. I also feel like the franchise
36:51
they're they're grasping at straws to make like new rules
36:56
that are relevant to the movies anymore at this point, like, OK,
36:59
you're making it a franchise rules.
37:00
I mean, it's still just like fucking slashers and sequels,
37:04
Like it's all the same at this point.
37:06
There was nothing new said. Yeah, it it was the same rules
37:09
as in the requel basically. And it does, it feels like a bit
37:15
that's forced in there cuz that's what people are used to.
37:18
I wouldn't have been mad without that.
37:21
Yeah, I don't feel like you need to come up with like a new set
37:23
of them every single time. I just feel like if you were
37:25
living by normal slasher movie rules and like they're
37:28
acknowledged, that's enough. Yeah, yeah.
37:33
I think it would have been interesting if like they had
37:34
taken a true crime approach, since that's the hot thing right
37:38
now, and GAIL even, like, makes a comment towards that at one
37:41
point. I think that would have been a
37:42
little bit more interesting, but that's what happened.
37:45
Or even like fan films because we start off with like, the two.
37:51
Film students are like, we're gonna finish this project like,
37:54
yeah, I guess an. An expansion on what happened in
37:58
part five. You know what I mean?
38:00
You can take it that direction, but ultimately it's the same
38:02
thing. You're gonna be playing by the
38:03
same rules no matter what. It's a it's just a slasher at
38:06
this point. Yeah.
38:07
Once you get like, the three, cool.
38:08
And I guess, I guess re cool is like, that one's fine that it's
38:13
fresh, but like, other than that, it's just really not.
38:16
Yeah, there's something to add. Anymore.
38:18
And The thing is, in part four, they weren't.
38:21
They just acknowledged that a decade had passed.
38:24
So it was like, hey, here's you know how things have changed in
38:29
movies since then. And then in part five, they kind
38:31
of were even like, OK, well here's this new term.
38:33
It's re cool and this is what it means.
38:35
But then this one it's like. I mean, it was already a
38:39
franchise. Yeah.
38:40
It's been a franchise for like decades at this point.
38:43
And also Four had like the remake rules, which that was
38:47
different too, you know, because, I mean, they were
38:48
basically doing the remake. Yeah, I just yeah, it's fine.
38:59
So my thing that really upsets me is that I've been wanting to
39:02
have three Ghostface for a while, and I'm very happy that
39:04
we're going to go back to an even number of Ghostface in the
39:06
franchise. Like, yeah, But if that's the
38:54
weakest thing about this movie, I think that and The Killers, I
38:57
think it's a solid. But it obsessed me that we never
39:09
actually see Detective Bailey in a Ghostface mask and Cloak.
39:12
I really wanted to see three of them on screen at one time.
39:16
Doesn't he have at least the cloak on at one point or does he
39:19
not? I can't.
39:20
Remember, he does like, I'm counting him as a Ghostface
39:23
because he's there, he's doing the killing, he's helping
39:25
organize all of this, but like, we don't ever actually see him
39:28
in the gear. We don't know if he did any of
39:30
the kills or not. It's possible he did, but like.
39:35
I don't know, I it was such a missed opportunity to see three
39:38
of them on screen at a single time.
39:39
Yeah. Although I will say the moment
39:41
with the siblings simultaneously wiping off the knife.
39:46
So it was pretty cool, you know, if there was any moment with him
39:50
being the killer, I feel like it had to be whenever he attacked
39:53
them in the apartment because he could then swap the body of
39:55
Quinn there. I know he says, like he was
39:57
first on the scene, but but I mean still I I feel like it
40:01
makes way more sense for him to have swapped the bodies then.
40:04
Yeah yeah, I mean I guess it's weird cuz like we never actually
40:08
see him in a Ghostface suit, but I will call him a Ghostface.
40:12
But I on the other hand, I won't refer to Jason as a Ghostface
40:15
because I don't see him as a real Ghostface, even though he
40:18
actually wears the costume and does a kill.
40:19
He doesn't kill. Yeah, yeah, you know, that's we.
40:22
So technically we have 4 Ghostface in this movie, Five if
40:26
you count and Greg. Which he was helping playing
40:28
one, but he never kills. He was already dead before the
40:30
movie even started. So yeah, this We're getting into
40:34
a weird numbers game. I like it, though.
40:36
It's making it fresh. Yeah.
40:39
All right. What is the ugly?
40:43
Ugly. What is ugly?
40:45
God, I don't know. I don't really know if there's
40:47
really anything ugly about this movie.
40:49
I hate that this movie made me think about the current sect of
40:53
conspiracy folks. Oh yeah, which don't get me
40:58
wrong, I think that some conspiracies are interesting and
41:01
worth talking about. But I also think that some
41:04
people do it in a way that they want to blame a certain type of
41:11
person for a thing that makes no reasonable sense for that person
41:17
to be responsible for. It's just they want to believe
41:19
it. So then they just do all of like
41:23
the mental gymnastics to make it seem like we, and I'm going to
41:27
say this, and this is potentially a trigger warning
41:30
depending on how much this issue upsets you.
41:36
It is upsetting. But you know, some people can
41:38
handle hearing things some people can't.
41:40
The people that refer to school shootings and all of the folks
41:44
involved in that as crisis actors pisses me off to no end.
41:49
Because you're talking about actual people's lives, actual
41:53
death, actual tragedy, and trying to pretend that it's some
41:57
big government cover up to try and push the liberal agenda of
42:02
gun control. It's not even like people.
42:03
It's disgusting. I.
42:08
It's fucking children. Exactly.
42:12
It really upsets me and we kind of get like a micro dose of this
42:16
with Sam here and she has just survived this whole big ordeal
42:23
with her little sister and their group of friends, the Core 4, if
42:27
you will, Core 4. And the Internet has twisted it
42:32
to be that she is the bad guy, she orchestrated it, she is the
42:37
villain. And stuff like that really does
42:40
get out of control very quickly in today's age with our
42:45
technology and everything available.
42:48
And it's like when we've got true crime documentaries and
42:50
everything like that and people will go online and be like,
42:53
well, I don't know, I've got like my suspicions about this
42:56
person, cuz they didn't act the exact right way that I think
43:00
they should have. And yeah, like.
43:02
Also in this movie shows how it can be weaponized because it's
43:05
started as a rumor by Quinn in a way to like destroy her
43:09
character. And it's like, because sometimes
43:12
these theories are right, people think that it's okay to just say
43:15
whatever they want, and they forget that the people behind
43:18
these theories are actual real people and they are dealing with
43:21
stuff. Yeah, it's also like the thing
43:23
with Reddit where they did the Witch shine with the Boston
43:26
bomber. They got that wrong.
43:27
Yeah, like somebody fucking died because of that.
43:30
Yeah, it's just fucked up. Yeah, and like, it's just, it's
43:35
really upsetting because it's like an actual real thing.
43:39
And this is the kind of meta commentary that I expect from
43:43
Scream, but it's not fun. You.
43:45
Know what This kind of brings me to like my story that I just
43:47
realized, But I think it's like fucking weird how essential
43:51
Reddit has become to scream like in both movies.
43:56
It is the catalyst to like everything happening.
44:00
Just fucking Reddit. Yeah, it's so weird.
44:04
My absurd, I guess would be what's a good absurd?
44:09
Oh, the fact that Danny lives in a tiny little apartment in New
44:14
York City and has a 12 foot ladder.
44:19
Yeah, I was wondering about that too.
44:21
Like, what are you using that for it?
44:22
Does it have something to do with your work?
44:25
Like you, you were in a fucking Do you use that ladder to get up
44:28
into your bedroom? Do you is that?
44:30
Do you have a loft? Do you have a loft room?
44:32
Is that how he goes and sneaks in the Sam's room where Sam
44:36
sneaks in the his room? They just like throw the ladder
44:39
to each other? Like, come on over.
44:44
That's why. Like when he pulls it out, it's
44:45
like a yeah, exactly. A little wink.
44:48
No, not right now. I'm getting attacked, Danny.
44:51
I am so not in the mood right now.
44:56
Oh, that reminds me. We were talking about him.
44:58
You said he reminded you of somebody.
45:00
Yeah, he to me, he looks like a younger version of OB and saw
45:04
two. The fellow that has to climb
45:06
into the furnace for some of the antidotes.
45:10
All right, well, we can maybe make this part of like a a
45:15
secondary poll. Like who do you think he looks
45:17
the most like? Because I'm gonna tell you he
45:19
looks like enter in Ciarte, the guy that played for the Braves.
45:24
Yeah, you said you were gonna show me a picture, cuz I don't
45:26
know who you're talking about. He looks like him, doesn't he?
45:29
He's a bit more like his facial structure is very different.
45:33
It's very It's similar to me. I don't see it.
45:36
I see it. I don't.
45:37
Come on, dude. Same fucking brow eyes, but the
45:42
rest of the face. I said that backwards right brow
45:45
eye. I thought you meant like the
45:47
brow, like the brow bone. And then the hair.
45:49
And then you were also talking about the eyes.
45:51
That's how I said that's how I meant it.
45:53
But then I realized brow eyes. That's not what they're called.
45:56
Brow eyes. Okay okay.
45:59
So what is your rating? You know what?
46:02
As crazy as it sounds, I think that this one.
46:08
I wouldn't say it's my favorite, but man, it's so hard.
46:11
Like, it's so close to one. For me.
46:12
It's my second favorite. This one's my second favorite.
46:15
It's so weird, but like, it's just like you said.
46:18
It's so fun to watch. It's just so different and it's
46:22
just action-packed and the set pieces are awesome.
46:24
I love it. It's great so.
46:27
I'm gonna give it 9.5. All right?
46:30
I'm gonna give it a 9.75. Whoa.
46:32
Yeah. I have a lot of fucking fun with
46:35
this movie. So we're starting off with an
46:37
average of 9.635. Nice.
46:39
No. No, 9.625.
46:43
No. OK, now, All right.
46:45
Are you ready to talk about it? Yes.
46:46
OK, so we start off at a restaurant called Aste El Fuego.
46:51
Is that what it was called? Yeah, I caught it, like, very
46:54
briefly. OK, that was one nice thing
46:56
about watching it at home is having subtitles like.
46:59
Yeah, true. Yeah, I think.
47:01
I think maybe we need to normalize subtitles in movie
47:03
theaters. I wish it was a thing.
47:05
I wish it was too. So Samara Weaving is there.
47:09
Yay. Also, we saw Barbie yesterday
47:11
before going home and watching this and I was like 2 blonde
47:17
actresses from down under in one day.
47:19
That look remarkably similar. Yeah, she looks a lot like her.
47:22
They look so much alike. And she was allowed to use her
47:25
real accent. Yeah, that was so jarring for
47:28
me. Like, I've only ever heard her
47:29
in her English accent. Yeah, I also remember whenever
47:33
it was announced that she was gonna be part of this and
47:35
everybody was like, yeah, we're gonna get her in a screen movie.
47:38
It's gonna be awesome. And then?
47:39
The radio silence is like, yeah, she's only gonna be in the
47:43
opening and she's gonna die immediately.
47:45
She's this movie's famous person that we're.
47:48
Gonna She can't, right? She is.
47:50
She's definitely that. Yeah.
47:51
She's like, I guess they know that.
47:52
Well they had worked with her previously with thready or not.
47:55
But I guess people know that she's kind of like, I guess
47:59
she's. Would you call her Scream Queen?
48:00
Yeah, yeah, she's. I'd call her scream Queen for
48:02
sure. So she is waiting for a date.
48:06
They had like, met online, like whatever.
48:08
This maybe his version of Tinder or Bumble or whatever it is.
48:13
Binder. Is that what it is?
48:14
No, I'm just calling. Yeah, it's called something
48:16
dumb, like flirter or something flirter.
48:18
Yeah, Okay. Yeah.
48:20
Anyway, she was like, waiting for her date.
48:22
He picked this place, but he's like, this is embarrassing, but
48:25
I'm lost. Can I call her real quick so
48:27
she's like, I don't know where you are, but I'll try and help
48:31
you. Yeah.
48:32
And she's like, you can tell she's like, really nervous.
48:36
Like, she's kind of adorably babbling, which I get because
48:39
I'm a nervous babbler, too. Honestly, it's super cute.
48:43
Like this stuff right here. Like as like if I were like the
48:46
guy on the other end of the phone.
48:47
Oh my God, this is amazing. I would date her based off of
48:50
this conversation. She's like rolling her eye.
48:52
She's talking about being a an associate film professor and she
48:56
teaches like a slash request 20th century slashers.
48:58
Yeah, she likes talking about how the tropes in the movie
49:02
reflects society and culture at the time.
49:05
Interesting. And she doesn't like Stab
49:11
because the guy says what's your favorite screen?
49:15
She goes, not that one. And then when they're talking
49:19
about tropes like one of them is don't answer the phone.
49:22
So they're like, I mean, if it wasn't the beginning of the
49:26
movie anyway, we'd here we have a hint that he's not who he
49:30
appears to be. Honestly though, for somebody
49:33
who should be knowing all the rules here, she's really fucking
49:36
dumb. Yeah, but she probably doesn't
49:39
think she's in a horror movie like she.
49:42
Thinks she's on a blind date. I don't care if you're thinking
49:44
if you're in a goddamn ROM com, like if you're going down a dark
49:47
alleyway. No.
49:48
Yeah. I do not agree with the dark
49:49
alleyway. Yeah, come on, man.
49:51
And even then, dark alleyway. My motherfuckers.
49:54
Well, I can see every inch of that alley.
49:57
Yeah, like enter the dark alleyway.
49:59
No thanks. You know what?
50:01
But that dark alleyway has its own dark alleyway.
50:05
This is like such a clean alleyway too.
50:07
It is. This is not in New York.
50:09
This is clearly Canada. That's how you know this is
50:11
filmed in Canada. I like to imagine Canadians like
50:14
hear that there's filming going on, There they go.
50:16
That's a rough part of the city, yeah.
50:19
Yeah, yeah. So the guy's pretending to be
50:22
watched. So he's like, I'm in an
50:24
alleyway. Do you see me waving?
50:25
She's like, no, she's like well. There's somebody chasing me.
50:29
Oh my God, he's got a knife. Oh my God.
50:30
That's not even the worst part. The worst part is you believed
50:34
that I was in an alleyway or something.
50:36
No, the worst part is you're a film professor and you just came
50:40
willingly into the alleyway. Yeah, cuz Roger Jackson takes
50:44
over the phone. Yes.
50:46
So smoothly, yes, and she doesn't.
50:50
She is like she gets that reveal and she doesn't immediately
50:53
hightail it out of there. She just stands there, staring
50:55
into the darker alleyway within the alleyway, and she gets
50:59
distracted by somebody screaming who?
51:01
Also, another thing I love about this movie takes place during
51:03
Halloween. Yeah, a scream set on Halloween
51:06
is awesome. Yes, and I like that it adds to
51:08
it because people are shits and are wearing ghost face masks.
51:12
And screaming and just hooting and all, and it distracts her
51:16
and they're all wrong turn fans. I wish we would have gotten a
51:18
wrong turn Cosplay. Here it would have been nice.
51:21
I mean, maybe there is. We're gonna have to like, slow
51:23
down through that scene one time.
51:24
Yeah, the the only bad thing about.
51:28
Watching this on streaming is if you pause on Paramount, it gives
51:31
you an add instead. So you can't just analyze the
51:34
scene. Yeah, but yeah, so she gets
51:37
stabbed and we don't get the knife wipe, which at first I was
51:42
like, this is weird. And then we see a face.
51:47
Yeah. And there was a part of me that
51:49
was like, is this a false opening?
51:53
But also it would be interesting to know who the Ghostface is
51:56
right from the start. Like that's a different way to
51:58
take this entry in the franchise.
52:01
I was, I was willing to go with them on the journey.
52:04
You know what I mean? No.
52:05
I always want to, like, play the guessing game until we get to
52:09
the end of the movie. I don't want to know who the
52:11
killer is right away, although it would be interesting.
52:14
Like, I guess with this right here is fine because, you know,
52:17
you're getting a Ghostface who's also getting ghostfaced, yeah?
52:20
But also, it's really fucking stupid for this guy to kill
52:23
somebody in fucking New York City and immediately take his
52:26
mask off in costume while standing above the corpse,
52:29
right? But whatever he gets out of
52:31
there undetected, nobody gives a shit.
52:33
We've all seen Jason takes Manhattan.
52:36
Like you can. Like Jason walks down the
52:37
fucking subway line and through times squared, nobody bats an
52:40
eye. Yep, they're just like, Yep,
52:41
that's it's New York. Speaking of Jason Takes
52:44
Manhattan, he goes home and it's on the TV.
52:47
A nice little reference. I love that.
52:49
That's a nice little wink to the audience.
52:51
I'll love it too. Yeah, cuz like, you know,
52:53
everybody's thinking it. And then there's all these other
52:55
horror references in their house.
52:57
Yeah. So on his way back there, he
52:59
passes a group of people, including Tara.
53:01
She's going to the OKB Halloween party.
53:05
Are you going, Jason? I don't know.
53:07
Is your sister going your problem to try and convince her?
53:12
Yeah, I don't even feel like these guys are really like, are
53:15
they friends? I feel like they're like, just
53:17
acquaintances. Yeah.
53:18
I feel like Sam is like friends with Tara's friends that she's
53:22
met, but she's not got friends in New York.
53:25
You know what? I.
53:25
Mean. Yeah.
53:26
Just a cute boy. Yeah, so when he's at his
53:30
apartment, he gets a call from his roommate Greg, and he's
53:32
like, listen, I know we said no kills yet, but I just wanted to
53:35
get an idea of it. Which how do you think he knows
53:37
already? Like, why is his immediate
53:40
response that, like, did he text Greg?
53:42
Like gonna do a kill :)? Maybe he was supposed to be the
53:46
one to meet her at the restaurant, I don't know, but
53:50
he's like shows her. Serves her right for giving me a
53:52
CM minus on my Jalo paper. And in my head I was like, this
53:56
dude probably saw Suspiria one time.
53:58
It decided his whole like horror personas that he loves Jalos and
54:02
later Mindy calls him an Argento fanboy.
54:05
Yeah, the guy who's, like, obsessed with, like, weirdly
54:07
obsessed with Argento. I.
54:09
Was like, God damn it. So that hurt me cuz you know,
54:13
like, whatever, I still got folchy.
54:15
I mean, Jason probably wrote the paper and he's like, I strongly
54:18
relate to these male characters in this Argento movie.
54:21
And she's like, yeah, you're bad news, yeah.
54:26
Yeah, it's also funny that like, he's he's talking about that and
54:30
then like the Ghostface on the other side of the phone, he's
54:32
asking about the kill. He's like, no dude, not over the
54:34
phone. But then he's like, anyways, So
54:36
like, I kept stabbing her and every stab was like, you know,
54:39
less and less alive. I'm like, dude, like you're
54:41
you're still on the phone. Come on.
54:43
And I think it's interesting that like, and granted we know
54:47
that the motive is revenge, but like, I do think it's
54:51
interesting hearing Ghostface like treat these kills like cuz
54:54
they are real people. You know what I mean?
54:57
Like Ghostface acknowledging like, hey, I don't do this for
55:00
sport. There's a reason behind what I'm
55:02
doing and it involves real fucking people.
55:05
Yeah, that's what, he says. Like, it wasn't just a person
55:07
like that was a she was a professor.
55:09
Like she was an actual person and I love that multiple times
55:12
in this movie and I wonder if it's backlash to like the last
55:15
movie. Like the whole point being that
55:17
they wanted to make a new Stab film.
55:19
Like if people were unhappy about it.
55:21
We have multiple characters this movie say.
55:23
Who gives a shit about movies? I know.
55:25
I love it. Honestly, I feel like if that if
55:29
it took that to make this movie, I feel like it was well earned
55:31
because I love the approach that they have with this.
55:33
Yeah. So yeah, Greg is dead in the
55:36
fridge. And by the time Jason realizes
55:40
that, it's too late for him and he said, are you just a piece of
55:43
meat, Jason? Yeah, he just slashes him.
55:46
Yeah, so fucking good. So Sam is at therapy, she's on
55:50
new meds, and she is currently not seeing any hallucinations,
55:53
but she's worried about Tara. And Doctor Stone was like, hey,
55:55
we talked about your sister-in-law, but we don't talk
55:57
about you. So I've got two things.
56:04
Is this therapy session happening in his house?
56:07
It appears to be an actual home because later on his files get
56:11
stolen out of his house and I feel like there's a weird like,
56:15
I get that building rentals are probably sky high, but like, it
56:19
feels like an inappropriate boundary.
56:21
Yeah, I don't really lack of boundary really.
56:24
You know, I don't really know if it's like a if it's an issue
56:28
within the, you know, therapy world.
56:31
I mean, it's clearly an issue that his office is not locked.
56:33
It does not matter that it is in his own home.
56:36
It's still like the files still need to be behind, like an extra
56:39
locked door. Yeah, they're very easily
56:41
accessible. And then, yeah, yeah, yeah.
56:43
Because like, he could have a client over and like, they could
56:45
wander there instead of to the bathroom and get to the files.
56:47
That's that's a definite, like, that's a HIPAA issue.
56:51
And then my other thing is we've established that it's like
56:55
nighttime and there's a frat party going on.
56:57
And you and I are familiar with the concept that shit starts at
57:00
like 1011. Like what?
57:05
What, like, is this? Is this the world's most
57:09
accommodating therapist? Like, is he working around her
57:12
schedule? Because I don't know what Sam's
57:14
job is currently, but we know she was working on a bowling
57:17
alley before. So it's not like she's got like,
57:20
this hefty corporate resume to pay the bills with, you know
57:23
what I mean? She.
57:23
Doesn't appear to have a job at all.
57:25
Honestly. Yeah, I've got.
57:28
I just. I don't know.
57:29
I do not know. Maybe the dad is like guilt
57:32
sending Tara money and Tara's like, OK, cool.
57:37
I'm gonna have Sam live with me, whether or not you like it.
57:39
Maybe she's like making money off of like, TV appearances, you
57:42
know what I mean? Like maybe she's getting fucking
57:44
royalties from Gil's stories. Yeah, I I have no clue.
57:47
I have. Doubted no clue to take all that
57:49
stuff. Yeah, I do that.
57:51
I think it's also like, hilarious that the therapist is
57:54
like, yeah, tell me about hers, tell me about yourself.
57:57
And she opens up, like, hard about herself.
57:59
She feels almost suspicious how much she's pushing for details.
58:04
Like to the point where I'm like, are you gonna sell this
58:06
information? And then she's like, OK, cool.
58:10
So my father's a serial killer. My ex boyfriend's a serial
58:13
killer. He tried to kill me.
58:14
And then I stabbed him 22 times, slid his throat and shot him in
58:17
the head. And it felt good.
58:20
And the therapist says I have to report that, to which I say no
58:25
you don't because that's not her.
58:28
Expressing an intent to harm is saying that in the time the
58:32
self-defense, the killing, it felt good to her.
58:35
She's not saying like oh I am actively planning to go do this.
58:40
You wouldn't put somebody on a 72 hour hold if they were like
58:43
10 years ago. I was experiencing suicidal
58:45
ideation. Like that's not.
58:47
Yeah, I feel like it is. I feel like it's trying for
58:50
those people that want her and like the movies, the movie, the
58:54
entire time is playing like a little game.
58:56
Like will she or what? Would she be a killer?
58:59
Well, and that's why even when he reports that nothing happens,
59:02
because she didn't fucking do anything.
59:04
Yeah, I know. She didn't express any intent to
59:07
hurt anybody. She didn't express any homicidal
59:10
ideation. She was just like, hey.
59:13
Mmhmm. I I It felt good to defend
59:15
myself. Yeah, it's totally, like
59:18
reasonable. But the movie wants you to
59:20
believe that she might be the killer because the rest of the
59:23
movie she's you can see she's having these thoughts, she's
59:26
having these, you know, desires to take on Billy's like
59:32
Ghostface persona a couple of times.
59:34
Like Billy's voice is having a pretty heavy influence on her.
59:39
I'm just saying like there and people want it and I think that
59:41
they wanted to like toy with that a little bit in this movie.
59:45
That's all that is doing there. She calls Tara and it goes
59:50
straight to voicemail and she's pissed because she's like, you
59:52
know, you're supposed to answer the phone.
59:54
She gets to her apartment and there are 5 billion locks on the
59:58
door. She doesn't hear any answer when
1:00:00
she calls out, but she does hear some thumps, which I
1:00:03
accidentally wrote in my note as thumbs.
1:00:05
Thumbs. She hears thumbs.
1:00:08
It's Quinn sexing very loudly with, not Paul.
1:00:13
With Tim Robinson. Tim Robinson say cuz Sam goes is
1:00:19
that Paul? And we just hear who the fuck is
1:00:21
Paul? Yeah, So we never see him, but
1:00:24
it's been confirmed that it's Tim Robinson.
1:00:26
The voices love that. Yeah.
1:00:29
And I kind of like Quinn. It would have been interesting
1:00:34
to see more of her before she's revealed as a before she's
1:00:37
murdered and then later on pop up surprise killer.
1:00:40
You know what I mean? She's She brings an interesting
1:00:42
dynamic to it. She could have been interesting.
1:00:45
She just never had the chance. Yeah, and this is where she
1:00:49
tells her. She's like, don't be mad, but
1:00:50
Tara went to a party. We cut to the party.
1:00:54
We do see somebody dressed as Ghostface, But gay Ghostface, We
1:00:59
got Pride, Ghostface is. It like Rampo, yeah.
1:01:02
So bad taste? Definitely.
1:01:05
Come on, it's really bad and I'm surprised none of the, like,
1:01:08
Woodsboro folks are saying anything.
1:01:10
About I know, right? Like, I feel like they would at
1:01:12
least approach him. Hey, come on, like we have the
1:01:14
Survivor actually at this party. Maybe take that off, although it
1:01:17
does seem like they're kind of trying to lay low.
1:01:19
So at one point, somebody asked Tariff like, oh, hey, aren't you
1:01:22
that girl that was involved in those murders?
1:01:23
And she was like, Nope, I'm from Michigan.
1:01:26
Yeah. So, yeah, we just kind of this
1:01:29
is where we're getting an introduction to everybody.
1:01:31
Mindy says that she figures it's like being struck by lightning
1:01:34
twice, which has happened to people.
1:01:36
So maybe do your research before you make that kind of an
1:01:39
analogy. Yes.
1:01:41
And Annika? Annika Okay I need you guys to
1:01:46
understand we are not making fun of the character Annika.
1:01:48
It is probably the best episode of House Hunters in HGTV history
1:01:53
where this woman moved out to California post divorce, forced
1:01:57
her childhood best friend to move with her, and bullied the
1:02:00
absolute fuck out of her throughout the whole episode.
1:02:03
And the woman's name was Annika, the one being bullied.
1:02:05
Yeah, we hope she that she has a happy ending.
1:02:08
She kept getting houses where it's like, this will be your
1:02:11
bathroom. You'll have to share it with
1:02:12
everybody. Yeah, she's like, she's like,
1:02:15
cool, you have a bathroom in your room in this one, but
1:02:17
there's no door. And she's like, well, I want a
1:02:20
door. And she goes, Annika, it's my
1:02:23
house. You're just also living here,
1:02:25
but it's my house. And paying for half of it too.
1:02:28
But yeah, it's mine. Yeah.
1:02:30
Annika, I know you dyed your hair blonde and it clearly
1:02:34
damaged the shit out of it because you were not.
1:02:36
You were very naturally dark haired and now it's fried.
1:02:40
And you. It doesn't suit your skin tone
1:02:42
well at all. But we match.
1:02:43
We match Annika. Message us if you want the
1:02:46
episode number. We've got it saved.
1:02:47
Oh my God, it's. It's truly a feat of reality TV.
1:02:52
They love it. So Tara is there with date Rape
1:02:57
Frankie who is trying to get his date rape on not even in a
1:03:01
fucking costume. No, he's not.
1:03:03
Maybe, like costume is douchebag.
1:03:04
Yeah, like the date rape is bad. Yeah, it is bad.
1:03:07
But it like it's like an insult to injury.
1:03:10
I didn't know if that was Chad calling him Date Rape Frankie or
1:03:13
if that's his reputation. Like as Date Rape Frankie, Chad
1:03:17
is also a freshman. I'm just gonna to say that's his
1:03:19
reputation. Yeah, I mean, man, what a
1:03:22
reputation to have. Come on, he doesn't seem
1:03:25
bothered. By it, Are you going to weddings
1:03:26
after you graduate later on? Hey, date rape.
1:03:33
Meanwhile, Chad. Sweet little Chad.
1:03:35
He's trying to. He's trying to hype up Ethan.
1:03:38
They're in the corner like. He's jumping up and down.
1:03:41
Ethan's dressed in murder party because he's a fucking nerd.
1:03:44
Deep, deep, deep cut costume right there.
1:03:47
The real ones will respect it. I love it.
1:03:50
Yeah, he's trying to get him a date and the ladies aren't
1:03:53
interested. You know, to be fair, the the
1:03:56
costume's not very appealing. Like, it's not attractive.
1:03:59
But I mean, come on, like, if you find one somebody that if he
1:04:02
wasn't, if he wasn't a murderer, he would have definitely peaked
1:04:08
after college. He would have found his people
1:04:09
eventually. Yeah, you know, Yeah, like us.
1:04:13
Oh my God, I didn't think about this.
1:04:14
But that's probably like Richie's influence.
1:04:16
Like he probably watched that movie with Richie.
1:04:19
Shit. You know what?
1:04:20
I bet you're right. Wait, so going way down the
1:04:25
line, is he actually one of the family members?
1:04:27
Is he ever OK? That's why.
1:04:29
Yes, he is Dad's least favorite. Yeah, OK.
1:04:33
It's very clear he does the murder simply to try and earn
1:04:37
his father's love. And it doesn't work because he
1:04:40
was like Evan. Oh, what?
1:04:42
Whatever. Close it up.
1:04:43
Can you imagine that? Like he has to hear all this
1:04:45
talk the entire time? Like the dad and Quinn the
1:04:48
entire time. Like, yeah, my brother's dead.
1:04:50
Like, I just, you know, I don't have her brother anymore.
1:04:52
And he's like it's. Starting to hurt his son.
1:04:55
Yeah, I feel like like deep down, he's like, God, this is
1:04:57
kind of hurting like a lot. No, a lot of people like a still
1:05:02
of where, like Dermot Mulroney is like there's a special bond
1:05:06
between a father and his only son.
1:05:08
And in the background like it's like on The Simpsons, like you
1:05:11
can see the exact moment. Yeah.
1:05:14
It's fucking brutal, dude. Yeah, OK, so the Chad notices.
1:05:21
Well, any good notices? First, that Tara's being taken
1:05:24
upstairs by the Ray Frankie and she tries to stop, but it kind
1:05:29
of. It doesn't work.
1:05:29
So Chad has to step in and gets it into like a little shoving
1:05:32
match and then Tara steps in and tases him in the balls.
1:05:36
Sam. Sam.
1:05:37
Yeah, yeah. She comes into the party and
1:05:38
she's like, hey, you needing my sister alone, I'm gonna tase you
1:05:41
in the balls now. And she's all very matter of
1:05:42
fact. And I'm like, boom, love this
1:05:45
version of Sam. This is how I knew I was gonna
1:05:47
be 100% on board with Sam this movie.
1:05:49
Yeah, it was great. I like that, she warned him in
1:05:51
advance. Yep.
1:05:53
And of course everybody is filming by this point.
1:05:55
So they all leave and Tara is screaming at Sam about how,
1:05:59
like, she's being way too overprotective and she just
1:06:02
wants to live her life. And Sam's like you need to go to
1:06:05
at least a therapy session, so that way like you don't, you
1:06:10
know, develop really bad coping skills.
1:06:13
Regardless of trauma or not, she is being very helicopter parent.
1:06:18
Yeah, no, she definitely is. And I I see both sides of this,
1:06:22
yeah. Especially like, you know,
1:06:24
terrorists. And that's another thing Tara
1:06:26
hasn't dealt with is the abandonment issue she's
1:06:29
experiencing from both her dad and honestly, Sam.
1:06:32
Like, because she does bring that up.
1:06:33
Like she's like you left my life for five years and now you come
1:06:37
back and you won't leave me alone.
1:06:38
For 5 minutes now you moved to New York City to be with me too.
1:06:41
Yeah, and some rando off the street, like comes up, throws
1:06:47
her Diet Cherry Pepsi, which I feel like is not even a thing
1:06:51
anymore. Are you?
1:06:52
Did you actually know that that's what that was?
1:06:55
Danny says it later. OK.
1:06:57
Yeah. OK, they have a whole flirty
1:06:59
moment about it. No.
1:07:00
OK. Did he taste it?
1:07:03
He smelled it. Yeah.
1:07:05
Yeah, exactly. Hint of cherry?
1:07:09
Yeah, and like, it's calling her a murderer.
1:07:11
And Sam's like, step bitch, like she's ready to fight and they
1:07:16
all basically have to drag her away.
1:07:18
Yeah, I like that. We still acknowledge tyranny as
1:07:21
an inhaler. It's much less of a plot point.
1:07:24
But they're like we can't abandon it completely because
1:07:26
she was 110% dependent on it before.
1:07:29
It's just always like a random shot of her doing it, and I feel
1:07:31
like at the end of filming, like, God damn it, we forgot to
1:07:34
get the inhaler. Like it's It's got to be.
1:07:35
Be important some wise. So let's just get some pickup
1:07:37
shots like, I don't know, Jenna, go over there and just use it.
1:07:41
Yeah, we'll get it. We'll work it into the movie,
1:07:44
yeah. Quinn comes in and gives her
1:07:47
like a little pep talk about how you know her dad became super
1:07:51
protective after her brother died and even became a detective
1:07:55
in the NYPD and. Also moved to the city with her.
1:08:00
Interesting that that won't come in at all.
1:08:04
Chad comes in to talk to her and you know, she's like, thank you
1:08:07
for stopping me. Like, I didn't really want to do
1:08:10
that. I didn't realize how drunk I
1:08:12
was. And she goes, But I'm not drunk
1:08:14
now. Yeah, well Quinn comes in and
1:08:18
cock blocks them as and then says cock block a million times.
1:08:22
And I love Chad's delivery of like, stop saying cock.
1:08:28
Yeah, it makes him uncomfortable enough to just leave.
1:08:30
Like she like, I feel like she was intentionally trying to do
1:08:33
that for sure because like just leave.
1:08:36
Like, you know, she could have left.
1:08:37
Everything would have played out fine.
1:08:38
But she's like, Oh my God, did I cock block you?
1:08:39
I cock blocked you. Am I cock blocking you?
1:08:41
Oh my God, I'm cock. I'm cock blocking you.
1:08:43
I can't even fucking say that many times.
1:08:44
She was hoping for a little group action.
1:08:47
Oh, maybe, yeah. She's like, whoa, yeah, I mean,
1:08:50
I'm here. Maybe Tim Robinson could be part
1:08:52
of like a foursome, you know, that's full on orgy status at
1:08:56
that point. OK, so Sam is in the lobby and
1:09:00
we see cute guy who we'd have a we'd had a previous shot of like
1:09:04
her. She could see into his
1:09:06
apartment. Yeah.
1:09:07
He loves to just iron his shirts in the window there.
1:09:11
He likes to iron his tshirts and then immediately put them on.
1:09:15
And I've got so many problems with that, but we do not have
1:09:17
enough time in this podcast to address it.
1:09:19
I feel like it's at least similar to getting a shirt out
1:09:22
of the dryer. You know, that warm feeling.
1:09:27
Whatever. It's weird.
1:09:28
He, you know, he we don't need justification.
1:09:30
It's just he's a fucking T-shirt who irons AT shirt.
1:09:33
He probably also irons his jeans and his socks.
1:09:36
Maybe he. He may.
1:09:38
Regardless, I want more Danny in the next movie.
1:09:41
Yeah, well, they. OK, So they get a like, a new
1:09:45
story going on talking about Jason and Greg's death.
1:09:49
Yeah. And this is when Mindy's like,
1:09:51
Ohh, yeah, that's the guy that's obsessed with Argento.
1:09:53
I love that. Like, we had this whole moment
1:09:56
about this being a secret relationship, and Danny drops a
1:10:01
lot of knowledge. Like, we we understand that it's
1:10:03
not like a recent secret relationship.
1:10:06
Like, he's like, yeah, I get it, You still don't want to tell
1:10:08
your sister after everything you guys went through.
1:10:09
Like, he says it in a very matter of fact way.
1:10:12
Like, he's been patient about it and he's not going to push her.
1:10:15
But he would also like to be public because he's into her.
1:10:17
Yeah. And I like it.
1:10:18
It felt real. And then they call Sam upstairs
1:10:22
because of the news story about the murders.
1:10:24
And Danny just comes with and it's like everybody's like, oh,
1:10:27
OK, hi, cute guy. And he's like, I'm cute guy.
1:10:30
Thank you, my God. And then Quinn calls her dad to
1:10:36
see if he has got any more details, because Sam immediately
1:10:39
is like, all right, pack your stuff.
1:10:41
We'll leave tonight. And Tara's like, Nope, Nope,
1:10:44
Nope, Not doing this. And so when Queen calls, we find
1:10:49
out that Sam's ID is actually at the scene, so she's gotta come
1:10:52
down to the station anyway. So this sparks one of my
1:10:55
favorite, actually my favorite part of the movie.
1:10:58
So her and Sam are going like walking down the street, I guess
1:11:02
to go talk to the cops or whatever, and she gets a phone
1:11:05
call from Richie, which he's dead, shouldn't be calling right
1:11:09
now. But she answers, even though
1:11:11
Tara doesn't want her to. Yeah, she's like, clearly this
1:11:13
is bad news. And Sam's like, well, I never
1:11:15
deleted his information, so maybe somebody else has the
1:11:18
number now. Nope, it's go face.
1:11:20
Yep, Go face, go face, go face. And he actually comes out and
1:11:24
attacks right there on the street.
1:11:26
So they go running into the bodega.
1:11:29
And you know, you think, like, OK, I'm going into a store.
1:11:31
They're not gonna get me like with all these people here.
1:11:33
So first of all, people are really mad cuz they burst in
1:11:36
screaming call 911 and this guy with like a six bag is like hey,
1:11:40
I've been in line. Yeah, come on.
1:11:43
Fuck in New York. Yeah.
1:11:46
And it's also Halloween. So I guess, like, seeing
1:11:47
somebody in a mask isn't super unusual right now.
1:11:50
But what is unusual is when that person in a mask walks up to you
1:11:54
and kills you. I mean, in New York, it still
1:11:56
might not be that. OK.
1:11:58
It might not be, yeah it might be normal still, but he does do
1:12:02
that. He kills like 5 people there in
1:12:05
the store. Or the shop owner takes the
1:12:09
shotgun and is blasting at him, but he manages to avoid and
1:12:13
slash him and take the shotgun and do A1 handed.
1:12:17
Shotgun blast to him. It was so fucking cool.
1:12:20
It's unrealistic, but God damn if it's not like whoo.
1:12:24
See that? I mean, that's cool.
1:12:25
And I feel like that's what this movie is doing.
1:12:27
They prioritize having like fun, cool moments like that.
1:12:30
And it's just fun to watch. Like whenever I saw that, I got
1:12:32
so fucking hyped. Kind of like at the end.
1:12:35
I understand Chad shouldn't have survived all of the stabs, but
1:12:39
am I glad to have my current favorite hymbo available to
1:12:43
return for the next movie? Absolutely, man.
1:12:46
I'll write it off with whatever bullshit.
1:12:48
What makes him a Himbo? Is it just because he's an
1:12:51
attractive man? Like, isn't a Himbo supposed to
1:12:53
be somebody who's like, sexually promiscuous with he's an
1:12:56
attractive man. I wouldn't say that.
1:12:58
Like he's super slutty, but he acts like he's slutty and he.
1:13:02
Was the one that didn't want to have sex in the last movie.
1:13:04
He's a little ditzy. I'm not saying he's stupid, but
1:13:08
he's ditsy. He's ditsy.
1:13:10
Yeah, I just left that bimbo part like bimbo.
1:13:13
I always thought, well, himbo is like same thing as a bimbo.
1:13:16
Like I always thought, I was like tied to, like promiscuity.
1:13:19
Also, I think it's tied more to the illusion of promiscuity.
1:13:25
I just think of him as like the lovable doof, you know?
1:13:28
Yeah, Doofy. He's a little.
1:13:30
Let's call him Doofy and he'll get stabbed about 20 times.
1:13:35
So yeah, no, I like in info is absolutely a term of endearment
1:13:39
with me, so. I know, I know.
1:13:40
It's like nothing bad. I was just curious about, like,
1:13:43
what made you think that he was like that?
1:13:45
Yeah, okay. So Sam, again proving that she's
1:13:50
earned her final girl status, like, throws a can to distract
1:13:54
Ghostface just long enough for them to be able to escape being
1:13:58
killed. And right as we're like, no, are
1:14:02
they gonna get out, Are they not?
1:14:03
Because at this point it's just Sam and Tara and Ghostface.
1:14:06
The cops roll up and Ghostface has escaped through the back.
1:14:10
Yeah, I mean, they pushed the fucking shelf.
1:14:14
Shelf on, yeah. And left the mask behind.
1:14:18
I thought that the person just took off all the mask and stuff
1:14:21
to just get out of there and be a normal.
1:14:24
Person coming in blood. Yeah, surely.
1:14:26
I mean, New York, maybe not that unusual, but rich, naked person
1:14:31
covered in blood? Yeah.
1:14:32
Do you know how many reports we've had today?
1:14:34
Yeah, and it's Halloween. But no, it's actually the mask
1:14:40
from the last movie. It's Richie's mask.
1:14:43
Yeah. And Detective Bailey is like,
1:14:46
no, this is the mask from the apartment was Richie's mask.
1:14:50
Right. And which is Bailey is like,
1:14:53
does the name Richie Kirsh sound?
1:14:56
Am I saying that right? Kirsh.
1:14:58
Kirsh. Right, Chai, right.
1:15:02
Is that it's just so foreign. I've never seen this name
1:15:05
before. Wait, he's.
1:15:06
Telling me. Does this sound familiar?
1:15:09
Yeah, and the one at the scene belonged to both Jill and
1:15:15
Charlie, which is confusing to me because I feel like the other
1:15:17
movies, they get separate masks. Jill and Charlie each had a
1:15:21
mask. I don't.
1:15:23
The countdown is inconsistent and it bothers me.
1:15:25
Yeah, like, so they're doing like one mask per movie, right?
1:15:29
Yeah. Like, yeah, it feels like it
1:15:30
should be two. Yeah, they're saying one mask
1:15:32
per movie is what's happening, but they're saying there's nine
1:15:34
killers that they gotta countdown.
1:15:35
And I'm like this math ain't math.
1:15:36
And yeah, it's not making any sense.
1:15:39
So another detective person is the FBI is claiming
1:15:44
jurisdiction, it's derving. She's currently specializing in
1:15:49
Ghostface attacks. And she had actually already
1:15:54
been looking into Jason and Greg because they're from Atlanta and
1:15:58
she's based in the Atlanta office and she's like, I don't
1:16:01
want to take this from you. I'm open to working together
1:16:04
essentially. That's FBI lingo for cooperate
1:16:07
or I will take this away from you.
1:16:09
To mention the motive and the opening with those two is they
1:16:12
wanted to finish Richie's movie. So they were Richie's friends.
1:16:15
Yeah. And the real ghost face told Sam
1:16:18
on the phone that they were planning to kill her, But he
1:16:21
didn't let that happen because he wanted to make sure that she
1:16:24
suffers. Yeah, yeah, so.
1:16:27
And I love that Kirby came back. I like that.
1:16:29
This feels like a natural way to bring her back into the next.
1:16:33
You know what I mean? And I like, I like that
1:16:35
progression for her character, too.
1:16:37
I like, like this is a better version of Sally Hardesty, yeah.
1:16:41
Yeah, definitely. Even like, reference her in this
1:16:44
movie. Yeah, she's kind of lame.
1:16:45
She dies in that movie, which is crazy, right?
1:16:49
Because that movie just came out like the month that they started
1:16:52
shooting. It feels like, yeah.
1:16:53
Or like a few months before at least.
1:16:55
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, Sam and Tara aren't
1:16:58
allowed to leave town because they are persons of interest.
1:17:02
They're reporters outside. And of course, they're all
1:17:04
parasites. But you know who's the most
1:17:05
parasitic of them? All one GAIL Weathers.
1:17:08
Nay, Riley. And she's it's another.
1:17:12
Scream. Is it Scream too?
1:17:14
Which one is 1 Merced? No, it's first one.
1:17:16
It's several. It's it's a lot of them.
1:17:18
Yeah. GAIL always be getting Dick.
1:17:21
Yeah, it's the same thing. She's like, you know,
1:17:24
questioning Sam as if she didn't have that, you know, shared
1:17:28
moment in the past movie. Yeah, about the whole traumatic
1:17:31
shit going on. So Sam tries to punch her and
1:17:34
Gail's like, I've been through this before and Terry goes.
1:17:38
Boom. Never had a 12 before.
1:17:40
Yeah, that's fresh. That's that's the pirate
1:17:42
sisterhood. So they're mad about the book
1:17:46
that she wrote. She was like, you specifically
1:17:48
said you weren't gonna write about the murders.
1:17:49
You said you were gonna write about the Dewey and he would be
1:17:52
so disappointed in you. And she was like, that's a low
1:17:55
blow. And she goes.
1:17:56
Everything you wrote's a low blow.
1:17:57
I mean, she framed, she basically planted the seed that
1:18:01
terror or not, Terra Sam has killers, blood and like, you
1:18:05
know, the eyes of a killer. Like motive.
1:18:07
You know, like. Yeah, it's They have every right
1:18:10
to be pissed off of GAIL. I like that she quotes Gail's
1:18:13
book but doesn't do like the exact pages.
1:18:15
So we get like a hint of Dewey without like a full Dewey rip
1:18:17
off. Yeah, I know.
1:18:20
And then she said she spoke to Sidney.
1:18:22
She sends her love. She took Mark and the kids
1:18:25
someplace safe. She deserves her happy ending.
1:18:27
Yeah, that just felt like the Riders being like, look, we
1:18:30
tried like you know, she deserves her happy ending
1:18:33
though, and then seems like that's one thing that we can
1:18:35
agree. No hard feelings.
1:18:37
Yeah, so Dr. Stone is at his house watching a movie while
1:18:43
eating cereal and drinking chocolate milk.
1:18:45
So I was right not to trust him. Half the chocolate milk makes it
1:18:49
somewhat better, but I don't know you're still half killer.
1:18:53
Trust. Yeah, he gets a knock at a door
1:18:56
and like, cuz he's got like frosted glass and he can tell it
1:19:01
somebody in a costume and he was like you're a day early for
1:19:04
trick or treating. Yet somehow he still decides to
1:19:07
get closer to the door, and then he gets stabbed through the
1:19:09
nose. Yeah, I'm glad that, like, I
1:19:11
missed that in the theater whenever I watched this the
1:19:14
first time. So this is my first time
1:19:15
watching this go. It's cool.
1:19:17
I like it, yeah. And then goes face breaks in and
1:19:21
steals Sam's file because Dr. Stone doesn't follow HIPAA laws.
1:19:26
Just. Right there.
1:19:27
Just right out in the open, our red right Hanser is playing,
1:19:31
yeah, as Mindy lectures her friends in the park.
1:19:35
Yeah, so she's explaining the sequel to requel rules.
1:19:39
But it's not just that because they've already done the sequel.
1:19:42
It's now our franchise so. The rules are one Everything is
1:19:47
bigger than the last movie. Isn't that the same thing as
1:19:50
the, you know, the sequel rule? Yeah, same thing as the.
1:19:52
Sequel doubled. Whatever, #2 whatever happened
1:19:55
last time will be the opposite. Feel like we've also heard that
1:19:59
before. I can't confirm if that's been
1:20:00
one or not. And #3 nobody is safe.
1:20:03
We definitely heard that last summer.
1:20:04
Yeah, like legacy. Carey three, you're not saying
1:20:07
Yeah. And three, it's also the same
1:20:08
thing. Like Sid, you could die too.
1:20:10
And they even make a point saying like, Sam Terry, you guys
1:20:12
could die too. Mmhmm.
1:20:14
And then they point out why everybody's a suspect.
1:20:17
Ethan is randomly Chad's roommate and he goes, it was a
1:20:20
roommate lottery and she goes, those are super easy.
1:20:22
Hack. Not even concerned about that.
1:20:24
Quinn happened to Quinn the slutty roommate.
1:20:28
And Quinn goes sex positive. And Mindy, I think has a moment
1:20:32
where she goes, that was not very feminist of me.
1:20:35
You're correct. Respect.
1:20:39
And she was like, you just happened to answer their ad
1:20:41
online. How convenient.
1:20:43
And your dad's a cop. And she goes, yeah, my dad's a
1:20:46
cop, so I feel like that should vouch for me.
1:20:48
And she cuz gives you access. Also, it was an anonymous
1:20:52
listing. Yeah, what?
1:20:53
Terrace says so and Annika the love interest.
1:20:58
Never trust the love interest and Annika seems a little bit
1:21:01
hurt, but we don't really know because this movie says fuck you
1:21:04
to Annika. Yeah, really like Annika.
1:21:06
Much like the girl in that episode of House Hunters.
1:21:10
Yeah. Oh my God, it's just do you
1:21:11
think Radio Silence also watches House Hunters?
1:21:14
And that is also their favorite episode?
1:21:16
Could. Be I really.
1:21:18
I might interview them. That's.
1:21:19
That would be like one of the deepest customers.
1:21:20
Oh my God, somebody got it. Like what if, like, they
1:21:24
actually showed. That's why she's got the blonde
1:21:26
streaks in. Her hair?
1:21:27
What if they actually showed her apartment and her bathroom
1:21:29
doesn't have a door? Like that would be like, my God,
1:21:34
that's actually it. No, But that's why she dies,
1:21:36
because. Ghostface comes through the
1:21:38
bathroom. Ah okay.
1:21:42
Yeah. Head cannon.
1:21:43
He can't convince me otherwise. Okay.
1:21:48
So Kirby and Bailey are discussing how Stone died.
1:21:51
He did end up reporting Sam supposed threatening remarks.
1:21:55
There's nothing threatening in what she said.
1:21:57
Look, is it something that should be discussed in therapy?
1:22:00
Absolutely. But she wasn't saying, I want to
1:22:03
stab more people right now. Yeah.
1:22:06
Like, I mean the therapist didn't even let her elaborate.
1:22:09
She's like, yeah, so like, I, you know, I retaliated in
1:22:11
self-defense and it felt good. And he's like, OK, that's it,
1:22:14
I'm gonna have to pass you on to somebody else And she's like,
1:22:16
wait, wait, I got more to say. No, no, no.
1:22:18
You gotta go like the guy. Just, like, shut her down
1:22:20
immediately. Yeah, he was hoping to get
1:22:22
gossip and he actually had to do his job and he wasn't prepared
1:22:25
for that. That's.
1:22:26
Too much gossip. He says that the mask left at
1:22:31
that scene was Roman's mask and Kirby's says pretty bold choice
1:22:35
of him to be the only solo killer.
1:22:38
And then Bailey asked her about the movies and she says forget
1:22:41
about the movies growth. I do like this.
1:22:44
They're like reviewing all the killers from the past movies.
1:22:49
Like, yeah, kudos to him. Ambitious, I guess, You know?
1:22:51
Yeah, it's great. Listen, y'all Stu is confirmed
1:22:55
dead. He's confirmed dead.
1:22:56
They say it multiple times in this movie.
1:22:59
We get a little bit of like, I like that they acknowledge it
1:23:02
whenever her and Mindy have that little like chat together and
1:23:06
she's like, if you believe that, he's dead.
1:23:09
Like, you know, there's still like a theory going on in the
1:23:12
universe that Stu is still alive also.
1:23:16
So after Kirby leaves, Bailey has somebody check in on her.
1:23:20
Call the Atlanta office. Get some background Intel on
1:23:24
agent Read. Yeah, you can tell that he was
1:23:27
not expecting her to come into the mix.
1:23:29
No, he was like, what the? Fuck.
1:23:30
Shit, so they have a sleepover, everybody's in the apartment,
1:23:36
and then the Core 4 says fuck you to all of their new friends
1:23:39
and they just bond in the kitchen together and everybody
1:23:42
else that's only joined together through them is awkwardly
1:23:45
sitting around like, So what's your major?
1:23:48
It's just it's just Annika Quinn is in her room having sex.
1:23:54
Yeah. Oh yeah.
1:23:54
And Ethan is in study hall. So yeah, they just leave Annika
1:23:59
out of the entire thing, of course, because that's what this
1:24:02
movie is. Yeah, fuck Annika.
1:24:04
And. They're all like bonding
1:24:07
together and cute boy Danny sees ghost face on the other side
1:24:13
standing behind Quinn and he's trying to warn Sam and everybody
1:24:17
cuz he can see into the kitchen but he can't get their attention
1:24:20
so he tries to call and then. Like stamps used to, phone
1:24:24
departments are surprisingly like soundproofed.
1:24:27
I feel like you would be able to hear his shouting with how close
1:24:30
they. Are again New York?
1:24:31
You gotta be like, used to hearing all the.
1:24:33
I'm sure you drowned. Not that noise.
1:24:35
I'm not saying that they're drowning it out.
1:24:37
I'm saying that we hear the sound of it from within their
1:24:41
apartment. And I was like like.
1:24:46
Well. OK, but I think it's hilarious
1:24:48
that like he calls her and he watches her look at the phone,
1:24:52
see him calling and then just hits hang up like doesn't even
1:24:55
pick it up and that she's like, I'll call him back later.
1:24:57
Yeah, like seeing that, like for him, like, Oh no, Danny, I'm so
1:25:00
sorry. So yeah, then there's a
1:25:03
Ghostface attack. He like they hear sounds in
1:25:06
Queens Room and at first they think that she's just getting.
1:25:09
Wowed sex. Real wild with not Paul, but
1:25:12
it's actually her being murdered.
1:25:14
And once they hear enough sounds, they're like, uh oh,
1:25:17
they run in there, find her body bloody.
1:25:20
They all get texts with an image of her.
1:25:22
Oh yeah, yeah. So Sam tries to get a knife, but
1:25:25
the knife block is empty and Ghostface is like, haha.
1:25:28
And then? Sam uses the knife block and
1:25:30
hits Ghostface, and I love it. I lost my fucking mind when we
1:25:36
saw that in theaters. Yeah, it's amazing because you
1:25:38
know what? A knife block is a heavy, like,
1:25:42
adhesive equipment. It's just wood, man.
1:25:43
Yeah, it's solid. I love that.
1:25:48
So yeah, they he's incapacitated.
1:25:50
They all go into the bedroom and like push some bookcases in
1:25:54
front of it. Tara and Chad, who had like
1:25:56
managed to get out of the apartment.
1:25:57
Yeah, they will went downstairs. So they are now having to cross
1:26:02
to Danny's apartment with the giant ass ladder that you have
1:26:06
because he's got this 12 or 15 foot ladder or whatever, however
1:26:09
close these apartments are. Which lends further credoms to
1:26:12
my theory that they should have been able to hear him shouting
1:26:14
at least a little bit. Yeah, so same goes 1st and
1:26:17
crosses successfully, then Mindy goes.
1:26:19
Annika's been stabbed by the way.
1:26:20
Actually Annika and Mindy have both been stabbed.
1:26:22
Yeah, but Annika is in worst place.
1:26:24
Stabbed in the arm. Annika was stabbed in several
1:26:26
organs. I feel like, do you think that
1:26:29
they were trying to make Mindy? Suspicious here by getting her
1:26:32
like the arm step. No, because it wasn't her
1:26:34
forearm, it was her bicep. No.
1:26:36
OK, yeah, the bicep is not suspicious.
1:26:38
OK, since the forearm suspicious.
1:26:41
Fair enough. So if she gets across and then
1:26:43
Annika tries to, but by that time, Gross Face has gotten into
1:26:47
the bedroom and takes the ladder and starts shaking it and causes
1:26:50
her to fall and that's break her neck on the fucking dumpster.
1:26:53
Like, that's insult to injury. I know poor Annika and she was
1:26:57
just so sad. And that thing is like she got
1:26:59
stabbed because she was protecting Mindy, like Ghostface
1:27:03
came for her, got her arm and then was going for her again.
1:27:06
And Annika goes Mindy no and like jumps in front of the knife
1:27:11
and gets a knife into the tummy. Annika was too good for Mindy.
1:27:18
I just just bad timing. Really bad timing.
1:27:22
And it's never going to get better because she's dead and we
1:27:25
see Mindy actually cry about the death of somebody she cares
1:27:28
about for the first time in this franchise.
1:27:30
Oh yeah, growth for her as well. OK, so now it's the next day the
1:27:37
police are there. I do also want to point out
1:27:39
that, like while Annika was climbing across the ladder, Sam
1:27:42
like grabs her hand and is trying to pull her forward.
1:27:45
But she like because she's bloody it slides right out of
1:27:48
her hand, Yeah. Next morning, cops are there.
1:27:54
The dad is there, Bailey. That's all I wrote him down as.
1:27:57
He's like give him crocodile tears because he saw his
1:28:00
daughter's dead body. Yeah.
1:28:02
Ethan shows up and Chad is suspicious and pins him against
1:28:07
the wall and he starts blaming him.
1:28:10
He was on eco, yeah. And then Sam is like talking to
1:28:15
Danny and she blames herself. She's like, this is all because
1:28:18
of me. I feel like I can't trust
1:28:19
anybody. And Danny goes good, don't trust
1:28:23
anybody, don't even trust me. I love him as a love interest
1:28:27
because he's. He's a full, like, adult about
1:28:31
all of this. Yeah, Because normally, like,
1:28:34
you would see like, Oh yeah, no, you can trust me, babe.
1:28:37
Totally. That would be something Dewey
1:28:38
would have said too, though. Don't trust me too.
1:28:41
Yeah, it's fine. I get it.
1:28:43
We're in a slasher movie now. We're in a franchise.
1:28:47
Yeah, we're in a franchise, okay.
1:28:50
So GAIL also arrives. Yeah, by the way, Bailey's been
1:28:56
taken off the case because he's his daughter.
1:28:58
Yeah, he's too upset. So GAIL was there.
1:29:01
And she has something to show them.
1:29:04
She knows that. Where the master coming from?
1:29:06
Yeah. So she takes them to this secret
1:29:08
building. I also, I want to talk about her
1:29:10
like reacting to Kirby, being in the FBI.
1:29:13
She goes, you're a child. And Kirby's like, I'm 30 and I
1:29:17
relate. It's.
1:29:18
So hard to that line. Yeah, like shit.
1:29:22
Like, I'm 30. I probably should have like a
1:29:23
really good job right now. And then I also had to do a lot
1:29:28
of math because I was thinking about how old I was when I saw
1:29:31
Scream for and how old I am now. And I was like, yeah, if she was
1:29:34
a senior, cuz I was a freshman in college when it came out,
1:29:38
like she could be rounding up fairly, yeah.
1:29:40
Or she could have been held back.
1:29:42
I don't know. She's a tiny person.
1:29:44
She could be, you know, hating Panettiere.
1:29:46
It's just, I mean, if she was, if she was a senior in high
1:29:49
school, she was already 18, so I was 18 by the time I graduated,
1:29:52
so I had a January birthday. I suppose, yeah.
1:29:56
Like, it's it's plausible. It just, it did make me stop and
1:29:59
do math halfway through, which I always have mixed feelings about
1:30:03
in a movie. So they go to this secret
1:30:06
building in New York City that has like a key card entrance.
1:30:09
It's crazy. And somehow, these two college
1:30:12
kids could just afford to run. What is even more bizarre is
1:30:15
like. Kirby couldn't find out.
1:30:17
She checked everything about. She's like I've been tracing
1:30:20
their financials and getting those while I'm good at my job.
1:30:22
Yeah, like, how did a fucking reporter get all of this info
1:30:25
that the FBI couldn't get? GAIL really relies on Dewey to
1:30:28
be her conscience. Like, without him around, she's
1:30:31
just like. I'm still not buying it.
1:30:33
A fucking reporter got this information and the FBI couldn't
1:30:36
get it. Oh no, Bailey reveals later
1:30:38
that, like, he basically led GAIL to it.
1:30:41
Oh really? Yeah, I must have missed that.
1:30:44
OK, it's like a throwaway line, but like, oh, we just need to
1:30:47
get GAIL to find the records or whatever.
1:30:49
OK, I gotcha. So the building is a abandoned
1:30:53
movie theater, I think, and there's like a whole shrine to
1:30:57
all the past ghost faces. It is disturbing.
1:31:00
All of the props and things from the previous killings, crime
1:31:05
scenes, and it has all of the quotes and the masks.
1:31:07
Also back in the case on the stage.
1:31:10
Yeah, in cases it's pretty intense.
1:31:13
Yeah, and Sam goes up to Billy's mask and she sees him for the
1:31:19
first time. And and they did such a stupid
1:31:21
thing. I got they project him, but they
1:31:23
don't project his face where the face would be on the mannequin.
1:31:27
They just like, put it to the side.
1:31:29
I wonder if maybe they tried to do that and it was like hard to
1:31:32
make it legible. I noticed watching this one that
1:31:36
they really didn't try with de aging skiing.
1:31:39
No, they absolutely. They were like, that was a
1:31:41
nightmare last time. We all know that he's older now.
1:31:43
Like, it's fine. Yeah, like Sam just now
1:31:45
realized. Oh yeah, he would have been an
1:31:47
old man. It's like the opposite of what
1:31:49
happened with John Goodman and righteous gemstones where, like,
1:31:51
they got so much better at de aging him and that.
1:31:54
Like this time they're just like, we're not even gonna try.
1:31:56
We never out right see him anymore.
1:31:57
He's always kind of, like, faded.
1:31:59
Yeah, I guess so, they thought. I don't know.
1:32:01
I had noticed it right away, like he, yeah, he's not sitting
1:32:04
in the back seat anymore, you know, he's just in a reflection.
1:32:07
Yeah, but he's, you know, talking.
1:32:09
He's still in Sam's head. So this is where we get people
1:32:13
like talking about their feelings.
1:32:16
Caribbean Mindy are talking about Stew and horror movies.
1:32:20
If you believe they said, yeah, they're really like nerd out
1:32:23
about horror. They have a lot of same
1:32:24
opinions. It's kind of fun watching them
1:32:26
together since they're like, yeah, like they are, you know,
1:32:30
versions of each other. Tara is really freaked out by
1:32:35
all of this to be back in this again.
1:32:37
She's kind of panicking because she hasn't been dealing with
1:32:40
everything that happened to her before, and now she's forced to
1:32:42
confront it. And so Kirby goes to talk to
1:32:45
her, while Sam and GAIL talk about, like, everything that's
1:32:50
happened. Because apparently Sam's mom cut
1:32:53
her off for telling Tara about the truth about her dad and
1:32:58
everything. And so Tara cut her mom off and
1:33:01
it's just everything's a mess. So what happened while we didn't
1:33:05
have the movie going? Like, since the last movie
1:33:07
always happened with their relationship, it seems.
1:33:10
Yeah. And you know, this is where
1:33:12
GAIL, like, talks about, like, sometimes you just have to find
1:33:15
your family. And this is the moment that in
1:33:17
the movie theater, because they played Dewey's theme and you
1:33:20
right next to me, you just went. Well, it's so sad, man.
1:33:26
Yeah. I wish we still get it.
1:33:27
Even though Dewey's not here. Yeah, I like that little like
1:33:30
nod. Yeah.
1:33:33
Kirby is telling Tara about how she technically died for four
1:33:36
minutes when she was stabbed, and then afterwards she got mad
1:33:40
and she decided that she was going to do something about it.
1:33:42
So that's why she's an FBI agent.
1:33:44
She's making sure other people don't have to go through the
1:33:46
same shit and that if they do, she takes care of the situation.
1:33:50
Yeah. And then Bailey also shows up
1:33:53
like, I guess he figured out where they were and he's like,
1:33:55
hey, I have an idea. And then Kirby's like, sorry
1:33:59
GAIL, no press. So now we get so many
1:34:03
references. So Tara and Sam are like walking
1:34:06
through the park hoping to like bait a Ghostface call.
1:34:10
And in the van we have got Ethan eating Cheetos, which is a
1:34:13
definite Kenny thing. And then they also talk about
1:34:16
how Randy died in a van. In a park.
1:34:19
Yeah, and this is in Part 2. Yeah, so they trace the call,
1:34:24
they get another call from Richie, Sam does and she
1:34:27
answers. And the ghost face is like, you
1:34:29
think I would actually show up? I know that you guys are on this
1:34:31
shit, so I'm not even. There I'm West Side, yeah.
1:34:35
Herbie successfully traces it to an apartment like, way up there.
1:34:38
Yeah, but Tara and Sam already know what apartment it is
1:34:41
because it's Gail's apartment. So.
1:34:44
How do they know where GAIL lives?
1:34:47
I don't know. Like, I don't know.
1:34:49
They're clearly not close because, like, GAIL just showed
1:34:52
up out of nowhere and they were pissed at her.
1:34:54
Yeah, that that's a little bit weird, yeah.
1:34:58
But they're gonna go help her. And in order to do that, they
1:35:00
still Bailey's car. Yeah, cuz he wants to do it by
1:35:04
the book and they refuse to. I also again, I don't know if
1:35:09
this is intentionally a reference, but do you remember
1:35:13
in the new Texas Chainsaw how the one character never got like
1:35:17
a name and a caption? She was always like caption date
1:35:21
such and such as girlfriend. Yeah, I love that Gail's
1:35:24
boyfriend is just caption as Gail's partner.
1:35:26
Yeah, I mean, we don't. He's just there, like, here's
1:35:29
your coffee and it's just like that.
1:35:31
And then he gets killed in the background, just like, OK, he's
1:35:34
just a body. And ATM the captions are
1:35:38
notoriously messed up and I'm fod lead them.
1:35:40
They refer to the segment as captions Crunch, and they talk a
1:35:45
lot about, like, when the captions just say woman, it's
1:35:49
like, we know all of their names.
1:35:54
Okay. Yeah.
1:35:55
So GAIL gets a Ghostface call and it is the first time that
1:35:58
they've ever spoken on the phone.
1:35:59
Yeah, I think it's funny. The boyfriend gets a call.
1:36:02
He's like, yeah, he says he's the killer you wanna talk to?
1:36:06
He's also a Himbo. Yeah, she definitely went with
1:36:10
like, looks over brains with this guy right here for sure.
1:36:16
She knew what she needed at the time.
1:36:17
Yeah, she's like, I've already had the nice guy I need.
1:36:20
Also, I wanna say GAIL is wearing a rubber band in her
1:36:24
hair that has the exact same color as her shirt and tennis
1:36:28
shoes. And that's just such a nice
1:36:31
detail. And it's just so very GAIL, like
1:36:33
even in her lounging workout gear, it's like coordinated like
1:36:38
that. Yeah, she's got a nice
1:36:40
apartment. I got it so nice.
1:36:42
Yeah, well she gets the call, she takes it.
1:36:44
And it's cool that they acknowledge cuz I had never
1:36:47
really thought about it. And they say, yeah, you know,
1:36:50
you're long overdue for a call. We've never had a call before,
1:36:53
so here we go. You've always mostly just been
1:36:55
in the way, never an actual target.
1:36:57
Yeah, but now, now we're gonna, we're gonna change that.
1:37:00
Yeah, so in the background, while the conversations going
1:37:03
on, the boyfriend does get killed.
1:37:05
There's like a chase through the apartment and GAIL winds up in
1:37:08
her closet where she's got a gun safe.
1:37:11
I do like the very realistic, like her fucking up the pin a
1:37:14
couple of times. Yeah, if you're panicked, you're
1:37:16
not gonna nail that right away. Yeah, I mean, I wasn't panicked
1:37:19
earlier today trying to pay our mortgage and I just gave up and
1:37:22
changed our password because it fucking pissed me off cuz I kept
1:37:27
messing it up. So yeah, she shoots through the
1:37:31
door, but obviously it doesn't get Ghostface and so when she
1:37:34
goes out to look for him, she's like, can I put you on hold?
1:37:37
And goes just goes what? Yeah.
1:37:40
That's great. And This is why we needed a call
1:37:42
from GAIL, because, like, she's gonna play it way differently
1:37:45
than anybody else would. And she calls back to get an
1:37:48
idea of where Ghostface is, and she attempts to shoot, but
1:37:52
Ghostface bursts out and stabs her.
1:37:55
They have a little bit of back and forth that ends with
1:37:57
Terrence and bursting in and trying to shoot at Ghost Face,
1:38:01
but Ghost Face running away. Yeah, go good stab three times
1:38:04
and they're all pretty bad stabs.
1:38:07
Yeah, but this is Scream, so she's Hey, OK guys, don't worry
1:38:11
about GAIL. Don't just like tell Sydney he
1:38:13
never got me. Yeah, she kind of dies there.
1:38:17
But then the paramedics come in and like, oh, weak pulse.
1:38:20
When you hear weak pulse in a horror movie, they're gonna
1:38:23
Yeah, they're not. I mean, if there's ever a hint
1:38:26
of life, they survive. Always.
1:38:27
It's kind of like the reverse of like if you don't see the body,
1:38:30
they didn't die. Like if a paramedic says that
1:38:33
they're still alive, they're gonna at least make it through
1:38:35
this, maybe. They could be decapitated.
1:38:37
If there is a swipe pulse, they will make it, yeah, then like we
1:38:40
can. We can sew that shit back on.
1:38:42
It's fine. Yeah, medicines come along.
1:38:45
Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
1:38:49
Which also I forget what movie it was, but it was something
1:38:52
online. And so it was like there is no
1:38:54
way that they would have been able to fix that for her in the
1:38:57
90s, even in 2023. It's unrealistic.
1:39:00
And I'm like I mean. I'm curious what this is.
1:39:05
What is it? Shit, it was Scream.
1:39:06
It was somebody talking about Drew Barrymore did an interview
1:39:10
where she very jokingly said that with creative writing they
1:39:13
could bring back Casey Becker. She very clearly didn't mean it,
1:39:17
but like, people are like, how dumb does she think that?
1:39:20
Like, she was basically had a C-section and there's no way
1:39:23
that the technology in the 90s would have, like, helped her
1:39:26
survive. And I just feel like it's not
1:39:28
the Stone Age. Like, granted, there have been a
1:39:31
lot of advances in medicine since then, but like you know,
1:39:34
surgeries and stuff still existed, like.
1:39:37
Yeah, but she got hanged and disemboweled and all kinds of
1:39:41
shit. This is probably somebody that
1:39:42
was born in like a year that starts with A2 like.
1:39:47
Yeah, probably. OK, so yeah, they're at the
1:39:52
hospital now and cute boy shows up.
1:39:57
They call it Bailey. And who's on board getting the
1:40:01
killer? Yeah, because Sam is basically
1:40:03
about to self sacrifice. She's like Ghostface wants me.
1:40:06
I don't want you guys dying. Like Mindy is actually like I am
1:40:09
really scared. They're all really scared, but
1:40:12
like to actually see Mindy be human.
1:40:14
I think they really took the notes of how she came across
1:40:17
last movie. I I don't know what my note
1:40:19
means though. Who's on board getting the
1:40:21
killer? Oh, OK.
1:40:23
They're all winning the group up and get like, OK, yeah, because
1:40:26
after after Sam is like, I'm just, they're going to give
1:40:29
myself up. They're like, no, we have a
1:40:30
better idea. So Bailey is going to help.
1:40:32
He's going to have Kirby's assistants.
1:40:34
So basically they're going to hole up at the theater.
1:40:39
They have a plan, but they need to take the subway to get there.
1:40:44
This is like, actually, it's really effective because one,
1:40:47
like the absolute crowdedness of this is terrifying to me.
1:40:50
I'm always afraid on a like a train or a subway, like, not
1:40:54
that it comes up with us a lot because where we live we don't
1:40:57
have it. But any time we've traveled a
1:40:58
place with it, I'm always a little bit like so many
1:41:01
strangers. Yeah, we're sure.
1:41:03
Like, there's something about being like Captive.
1:41:06
Yeah, it's also claustrophobic because like, there's barely any
1:41:08
space. But the cool thing about the
1:41:11
scene is we get so many Easter eggs because we're immediately
1:41:13
greeted with somebody in Mojo JoJo costume.
1:41:16
You get Pinhead, you get Michael Myers.
1:41:19
There's a May Queen. May Queen I saw a Billy from
1:41:23
Saw. There's a little Georgie from
1:41:27
the opening of it. The twins from The Shining.
1:41:30
There's just there's a lot. There's probably more that we
1:41:33
haven't even gotten yet. Yeah, but it's really cool.
1:41:35
Everybody in New York's really good at doing costumes,
1:41:38
apparently. I love it.
1:41:39
It's great, but. Mindy and Ethan accidentally get
1:41:43
separated from the rest of the group.
1:41:45
A group that is really trying to like, you know, invoke the whole
1:41:48
safety in numbers. They did a shit job of
1:41:50
navigating through this crowd. Hold hands, people.
1:41:53
Hold hands. Yeah, it's kindergarten rules.
1:41:56
Who's your buddy? Do you have your buddy's hand?
1:41:59
No, Billy. What the fuck?
1:42:00
Get your buddy's hand. That's why we have the buddy
1:42:03
system, Billy. I have a feeling that the subway
1:42:05
system, like just public transportation in general in New
1:42:09
York City, is kind of aggressive, though.
1:42:11
Yeah, like the crowd. Like when people pour out, like
1:42:13
they don't give a shit. If you're in the way, they're
1:42:15
gonna walk where they want to walk.
1:42:16
Well, OK, To be fair to the people coming off the train,
1:42:19
they are they like, in a social sense, have the right of way
1:42:23
because they're it's like when people are coming off an
1:42:25
elevator. You let people get off the
1:42:26
elevator before you get on. Yeah, yeah.
1:42:28
It's common sense. Because you got to clear the
1:42:30
space, yes, exactly. So yeah, they get separated and
1:42:34
they're on different trains now. So they have 10 stops to go.
1:42:39
Yeah, and it's like, I love it because, you know, it's drawn
1:42:41
out and everybody looks super suspicious.
1:42:44
Of course there's a lot of ghost faces dressed up.
1:42:46
It was just and they all love to just stand there menacingly, to
1:42:51
quote Sienna, and terrifier too. It's in bad taste.
1:42:58
Would you dress up at Charles Manson?
1:43:01
These people would. They said Dahmer, which at that
1:43:04
time, yeah, was like actually not when they filmed them, but
1:43:08
relevant when they released. When they came out, they had the
1:43:11
Dahmer. In the universe this is like
1:43:13
super relevant because not only was there a Ghostface killing
1:43:16
you know like a year ago, there is currently some going on now.
1:43:19
Well, and the problem also is that like the STAB movies are a
1:43:22
thing and they made the character look exactly like the
1:43:25
one in real life. Like, you know, in 2023 language
1:43:29
we would refer to the STAB movies almost as biopics, you
1:43:33
know, at least the first two. Yeah.
1:43:36
And that would like give it a different sense of how it is.
1:43:41
But because it's like a dramatic like story, it's a horror movie
1:43:46
in universe. People are dressing up as the
1:43:49
Ghostface Killer from STAB, but it's also, you know, from
1:43:52
people's real lives. I always And it adds A
1:43:54
complexity to it. But also like I doubt the STAB
1:43:58
movies like why don't we see any of the new like the steel face
1:44:01
stab I was. I want to see at least one that
1:44:03
would. Be cool.
1:44:04
I always thought it would be like nice for the stab masks to
1:44:08
be the green mask because that's what the poster always is like.
1:44:11
Give it like something to distinguish it from, yes.
1:44:13
That way we know who is like a stab fan versus who is like a
1:44:16
true crime, not sensitive to actual victims.
1:44:19
Person Yeah, exactly. But yeah, so there's a lot of
1:44:21
them there. And.
1:44:23
One of them is slowly inching closer to Mindy, who is getting
1:44:27
like very creeped out and is moved to the edge of the train.
1:44:30
Panic attack. Yeah, is what's happening.
1:44:32
Like she is like full, like heavy breathing trying to get
1:44:35
into a corner. She's panicking and she gets
1:44:39
stabbed, goes face covering her mouth, and Ethan is so
1:44:43
ineffectual at like, reaching her, like even when they get to
1:44:47
the station that, like, I was fully like, oh, there's no way
1:44:51
he can be a killer. He's so bad at everything.
1:44:55
Yeah, I mean. He mysteriously disappears
1:44:58
during this part right here and then reappears after the
1:45:00
stabbing. I know he's not the one that
1:45:02
does it because daily or Quinn like I was up to it here.
1:45:07
But yeah, so she's stabbed. Could have easily finished her
1:45:11
off, but they don't. They just give her a tummy stab
1:45:13
and move on. Yeah, So the other group gets to
1:45:17
the theater. Danny's not allowed in, and he
1:45:20
looks sad, but he understands. I think mostly he's just pissed
1:45:25
that, like, he had to ride the subway for that long.
1:45:27
You mentioned I was like, why did you wait until now to tell
1:45:30
him he's not allowed in? He went there with them, he
1:45:32
traveled with them, He walked on the sidewalk with them all the
1:45:35
way there, and they're like, you can't come.
1:45:37
Like go, we didn't want to tell you, but like please just go.
1:45:40
And I think honestly, cuz he accepts it pretty willingly.
1:45:43
And I honestly think any frustration we've seen in his
1:45:45
face is like, you could have told me that before we got on
1:45:47
the subway. Right there, he actually, I feel
1:45:50
like he has a little bit of something like, what the fuck?
1:45:51
Really. Okay.
1:45:53
Fine. So Gurby, Gurby, Gurby, Gurby.
1:45:59
Curvy is the only one with a gun.
1:46:02
She says. It's FVS.
1:46:03
I see it with the Gurvy. No, you're thinking gun and
1:46:06
curvy and Gurvy. No, no it's two lines and my
1:46:10
notes ran together cuz the next line is ghost Dad.
1:46:15
That happens to me like, I'm like, I'm thinking of something
1:46:17
that's gonna be in the sentence and then like, OK, Gervy.
1:46:20
Yeah, no. I was trying to read my note
1:46:22
about curvy, but then I started to read my note about Ghost Dad.
1:46:26
OK, because goes dead is trying to give Sam some pointers on how
1:46:29
to survive this and she reaches him to the case and grabs his
1:46:33
knife. That is definitely covered with
1:46:34
about 10 different evolutions of tetanus at this point.
1:46:37
Is that rust or is that supposed to be blood?
1:46:39
Like, I think it's supposed to be blood.
1:46:41
They try and make it look gooey, which it wouldn't be at this.
1:46:43
Point. It was just way dressed hunting.
1:46:45
That she's been drying for decades.
1:46:47
That shit is not goopy. There's no goop there.
1:46:49
Yeah. Bailey calls and tells Sam that
1:46:54
Kirby was like, Kirby was let go two months ago because she was
1:47:00
unstable after the attacks on Woodsboro last year.
1:47:03
She had, like, a relapse. So Sam tries to get the other
1:47:09
kids to leave, but the gate that they came in through is chained
1:47:12
up. Yeah.
1:47:13
And then a film starts playing in the theater and it's like a
1:47:17
stab fan film, a stand film, if you will.
1:47:20
Yes, that must be where the term comes from.
1:47:23
Yeah, I know it's not. Please don't.
1:47:26
Please don't tell us where it actually came from.
1:47:29
So Tara and Chad are out in the lobby talking about the really
1:47:33
old candy, and then they kiss and then Sam runs in and she's
1:47:40
like, we need to go. It's Kirby.
1:47:42
There's a lot of fighting happening.
1:47:43
And then all of a sudden we see two ghost face and Chad gets
1:47:47
stabbed a lot. Like, it's just like Boop.
1:47:49
Boop. It's 20 something times.
1:47:51
At least my man gets fucking fucked up.
1:47:55
I don't understand how he survives this.
1:47:57
Like, sure, I'm all for throwing that stuff out the window, but
1:48:01
like, if you're gonna stab a person that many times do we
1:48:05
would never. Yeah, like.
1:48:08
He got stabbed, sure, but not this many times and never
1:48:11
survived. I just hope, like in Stab Seven
1:48:13
we talked about him like going to dialysis or something,
1:48:15
because he's got altered kidney functions.
1:48:18
Yeah, after being stabbed in his kidneys.
1:48:20
Some organs are fucked up for sure.
1:48:21
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Tara and Sam end up getting
1:48:25
trapped and Kirby comes in shooting, and at first they're
1:48:28
like, what's you? And she goes, it's not you.
1:48:30
And then Bailey appears, He goes, it's her.
1:48:32
And then he shoots her. And then they're like, what?
1:48:35
And then just like. Yeah, of course it's me.
1:48:38
Yeah. And then the two ghost face
1:48:39
comes in. He's like, good job.
1:48:41
And so Ethan takes his mask off and that's his son.
1:48:46
His name. His real name is Ethan Bailey.
1:48:49
Whoa. And then they're like, so that
1:48:51
means the other ghost face is Mindy, which what a leap.
1:48:55
Like, I get that she's only first and left alive, but like
1:48:57
it could have been a total stranger.
1:48:59
Oh, I get it. Because her and Ethan were
1:49:02
separated. But still, yeah, it's it's a
1:49:05
it's a leap. I get it, yeah.
1:49:07
But no, it's Quinn. It's Quinn.
1:49:09
She's not dead. He swapped her out for a fresh
1:49:12
body. Which what the fuck does that
1:49:14
mean? Doesn't make any sense.
1:49:15
He's like a grieving father. Can get away with a lot.
1:49:18
What is? What do you mean?
1:49:20
What did you get? What?
1:49:21
What happened? No, he said.
1:49:23
It's it pays off to be the first sun scene so I can just swap out
1:49:27
the bodies, but even then like. You can't like the be able to do
1:49:31
that and like get her body, like a new body there and identify as
1:49:36
Quinn. There's no way.
1:49:37
There's multiple eyes on it, you know what I mean?
1:49:39
Like people surely saw her. I guarantee he had pictures of
1:49:43
his daughter at his desk. I wonder if like he just got
1:49:45
like a close enough looking body, messed up the face and
1:49:48
then because he's the one that would have provided the positive
1:49:51
identification anyway, like they just.
1:49:53
Yeah, don't. Don't do a DNA.
1:49:55
Nope. Yeah, don't need that, Sir.
1:49:57
I mean, why would they utilize that resource if they don't need
1:49:59
to? You know, it's got the dad right
1:50:01
there. It's right here.
1:50:04
So they are the ones that started the rumors about Sam,
1:50:07
cuz they're Richie's family and Richie was definitely the golden
1:50:12
child because Bailey did little to nothing to curb his blood
1:50:17
lust and in fact he actively encouraged it, helped him
1:50:20
collect all of the crime scene evidence so he could build this
1:50:23
shrine and. That's why, he says.
1:50:26
You can get a lie as a cop because he was able to get all
1:50:29
the evidence from the previous killings.
1:50:31
Yeah. By the way, when we watched
1:50:33
this, I fucking knew that he was a killer whenever he told Sam.
1:50:36
You don't fuck with my family. If you do, you're dead or
1:50:38
whatever. Like, okay, that guy's
1:50:40
definitely gonna be a killer. Yeah, so Sam starts insulting
1:50:45
Richie. It caused him like a limp Dick.
1:50:48
Like piece of shit limp Dick. Yeah, like that.
1:50:51
Cried before I slid us the road. Yeah.
1:50:54
Kirby, Sam and Terry start fighting.
1:50:56
Kirby gets knocked down pretty quickly.
1:50:59
Sam and Terry tried and climb up to the balcony.
1:51:02
Terry gets shot and falls and Sam's holding her and she's
1:51:04
like, Sam. Let me go.
1:51:06
Meaningful call back so Tara dropped like Sam gives her her
1:51:11
knife and Tara drops down and stabs Ethan and the throat.
1:51:14
As she gets stabbed in the stomach.
1:51:16
Yeah, we've we completely forget the stab happens later.
1:51:19
Yeah, it was completely forgotten.
1:51:21
It's just a thing in screen movies, especially with radio
1:51:25
silence like these people, Like if somebody gets stabbed, it's
1:51:27
not that big of a deal. It's like that really bad movie
1:51:30
we watched on to be the with Kerry Sultan, the 13.
1:51:34
What the fuck was that called? 9 lives, 9 lives.
1:51:37
No, it's not 9 lives. That's a different.
1:51:40
Man, you're thinking of a different pair of Silver movie.
1:51:42
No 9 Lives is the That's the one with Melissa Joan Hart.
1:51:49
No, no, I was just the one with then we all going to that
1:51:53
Mansion and Scholar, well, it's a different number.
1:51:56
I don't know. Whatever It's Anyway, it's the
1:51:58
rules of that where, like, a tummy stab isn't necessarily
1:52:00
fatal, but a shoulder stab is. Yes, yeah.
1:52:04
So OK, yeah. So they all fight.
1:52:06
She's Terror manages to stab Ethan through the mouth and like
1:52:11
his head, it's calls them to diversion, yeah.
1:52:15
Savage Quinn gets shot in the head and then Bailey comes up
1:52:19
there and charges at Sam with his gun and he he shoots after
1:52:25
they meet and stab each other like into the air, like it
1:52:28
doesn't make any sense. I think he got caught up in the
1:52:30
moment. He's like, OK, we're charging
1:52:31
now. Yeah, So they fall over the
1:52:33
balcony and then he gets up and he's all alone.
1:52:35
He's like looking around for and she calls him.
1:52:38
And then she sneaks up in a cloak and mask, and, well, she.
1:52:43
Calls and is doing the Ghostface voice too.
1:52:46
Like she's fully embraced being Ghostface at this point.
1:52:49
Yep, she's gone full Billy. Yeah, so.
1:52:52
And she stabs him like so many fucking times.
1:52:55
Like even more than she did Richie.
1:52:57
Yeah, it's insane. And like, Tara looks a little
1:53:00
bit concerned, like afterwards. And then Sam goes, are you OK?
1:53:05
And Tara goes, I'm really not. And then Red Right Hand is
1:53:08
playing over the credits of the fan film and they kind of
1:53:12
reconcile their main drama between the two of them.
1:53:17
We've got an Ethan jump scare, but Kirby jumps up from behind
1:53:21
where the TV that killed Stew was displayed, and she pushes
1:53:25
that over on top of him. That TV has got two kills.
1:53:29
That's pretty good for a TV. Yeah, that's a high body count
1:53:33
for probably the highest kill count of TV.
1:53:35
Can you imagine that? TV is like, I'll get my chance
1:53:36
again. All right, the cops and Danny
1:53:41
come in. Save the day.
1:53:43
We got ambulances that are cleaning folks up and taking
1:53:47
people away. Chad is somehow still alive.
1:53:50
Mindy apparently busted out of the hospital and she is very
1:53:54
drugged up and hyper. She's like, I can't feel
1:53:55
anything below my shoulders and Sam has the mask in her hands,
1:54:03
but she drops it before they leave.
1:54:05
Yeah, and the cops, like, hey, we need the there's evidence.
1:54:08
Wow, you couldn't say that to me.
1:54:10
Yeah, like, I mean, cuz again, she's battling like, OK, like is
1:54:15
she gonna be the ghost face here?
1:54:16
Cuz I'm sure that's what the audience is wanting to know to
1:54:18
watch again. And then she just strips like,
1:54:20
yeah, I'm not gonna do that. She's like, fuck that, yeah.
1:54:23
Which is cool. I'm glad that they're dropping
1:54:24
that as like a storyline for the next movie.
1:54:26
Yeah, it's been played out at this point.
1:54:28
I love Skeetel Rich, but I would be fine if he's not involved in
1:54:31
the next one at all. Yeah, me too.
1:54:33
Yeah. OK.
1:54:36
Sorry, that was it. I'm gonna keep mine in on 975.
1:54:38
It's just a fun fucking movie. It's like implausibility is
1:54:42
aside, I I'm not in this franchise for realism.
1:54:45
I don't feel like I have to suspend my disbelief too much
1:54:48
for it for it to be distracting. Honestly, like, I'm glad that it
1:54:52
embraces the unrealistic aspects more than the other movies do.
1:54:57
Because, like, that's it just makes it that much more fun to
1:55:00
watch. It makes it a much more
1:55:01
enjoyable experience for me. What's your score?
1:55:05
I'm keeping 95. Also 95 Okay so 9625 Talia I
1:55:13
think Talia gives us a 10 this. Is a premiere for all of them.
1:55:16
Yeah, they've never seen those. Yeah, it was a all of the girls
1:55:18
were in here. So Zoe did watch.
1:55:19
Scout came out cuz she was like. New screen movie.
1:55:22
Yeah, And Talia, like, she went through all of her squeaky toys.
1:55:25
Like all of them. She was like, I'm gonna squeak
1:55:27
this one. I'm gonna squeak this one.
1:55:28
She's like, I need all my toys to be paying attention to this
1:55:30
movie. She was fucking feeling it.
1:55:32
Yeah, She was so exciting for her.
1:55:34
Yeah, okay. No dream sequel?
1:55:37
Who did you relate to? I'm gonna relate to Jason,
1:55:41
because I would definitely write a thing on Argento for sure.
1:55:46
Come on, I hate that I relate to that.
1:55:48
But yes, Argento is like a great subject for like a slasher Paper
1:55:53
Mindy for the way she looks at Kirby after they have their
1:55:57
little nerd off. Game respecting game?
1:56:00
Okay all right, New tagline? Okay.
1:56:04
Well we are starting from scratch cuz both the ones that
1:56:06
exist are rough. Yeah, okay, how?
1:56:12
They keep saying like, who cares about movies?
1:56:14
Yeah, who cares about taglines? I like.
1:56:18
That that's actually really good for a screen poster.
1:56:21
Yeah, that's awesome. OK, cool.
1:56:24
All right. Do you have an Internet review?
1:56:29
I do. OK, I'm sure you got a -, 1
1:56:32
because we've both been in love with this movie since we watched
1:56:34
it. Yes, this is somebody that saw
1:56:41
an early screening of it. I wanted to make a joke about
1:56:44
how I vetted this one You. Know similar to how you vetted
1:56:47
yours last year or last week. I I still.
1:56:50
I love that. OK, this is a three out of 10
1:56:54
Okay. Time to put this franchise to
1:56:56
bed. Wow.
1:56:56
Okay. Wait, wait, what was the date
1:56:58
that they watched this March 9th?
1:56:59
And when did it release? March 10th.
1:57:01
Wow. Okay just got home from an early
1:57:04
British screening of It just got home from an la British
1:57:07
screening of this. It's like.
1:57:08
Right. Shit, What's up, dude?
1:57:11
My friend suggested we go and see it.
1:57:12
I wish I hadn't good money down the drain.
1:57:16
Just like Jason Voorhees did some 30 odd years earlier,
1:57:18
Ghostface goes to New York for a new killing spree.
1:57:21
Oh, this man is going to hurt when he realizes that it's been
1:57:23
more than 30 years. It is set a few days before
1:57:27
Halloween, but sadly not a pumpkin or any other festive
1:57:30
decoration insight. A train ride on which many
1:57:33
people are dressed up in fancy dress, including several
1:57:35
Ghostfaces, provides the only Halloween element, is also one
1:57:38
of the better scenes. Several of the cast from Screen
1:57:41
5 her back, including Courtney Cox.
1:57:43
She may as well not have bothered that Neve Campbell
1:57:45
wisely stayed away. I enjoyed Part 5 but found the
1:57:49
characters in six neither either uninteresting or annoying.
1:57:53
There's also some bad acting, Dermot Mulroney in particular.
1:57:56
Things do start quite promising with two good separate kills
1:58:00
before the opening credits, but sadly most of the fight kill
1:58:03
scenes are that follow are just laughable.
1:58:06
Same thing can be said for the plot.
1:58:08
Ambitious but equally ridiculous at 123 minutes.
1:58:12
This is too long for what a poor slasher flick.
1:58:14
This is a very flawed movie and in the opinion and in my
1:58:17
opinion, the worst date. But I don't think it will be the
1:58:19
last. Well, OK, I totally understand
1:58:22
not being into it if you can't get into the characters because
1:58:27
I mean five, like they loved five.
1:58:30
I didn't really care for it as much.
1:58:32
And I think part of it was some of the characters.
1:58:35
There was a lot more to it too, but this movie felt very much
1:58:39
like a return of the Core 4 plus new friends like the new friends
1:58:45
didn't feel. The supporting cast was weak,
1:58:47
definitely. I agree with that.
1:58:49
And if you don't like the Core Four, you probably won't like
1:58:52
this movie. I think what these writers in
1:58:56
Radio Silence struggle with, that's Screen One in particular
1:59:00
did really well, is giving you a good idea of who and what a
1:59:05
character is with limited screen time.
1:59:08
Because yeah, the supporting care.
1:59:10
And this was the same problem that we had with Five is like, I
1:59:12
felt very much like, OK, we're trying to introduce these
1:59:14
people, but you don't get a good idea of who they are, how they
1:59:17
interact with each other, how they interact with the world.
1:59:21
Whereas like in screen one, you have a very good idea of what
1:59:24
each character is, even if they only have a total of like 5 or
1:59:27
10 minutes of screen time. Yeah, like, I feel like they
1:59:29
build, like they world build with it a little bit better.
1:59:32
Like you get an understanding of everything like here, like
1:59:35
Annika just like exists as a girlfriend to Mindy and that's
1:59:39
her character. And like if she's not like any
1:59:42
other time she's on screen. It's just purely that, like, she
1:59:44
doesn't have a she's not a person.
1:59:46
Yeah. And like to be clear, I'm not
1:59:49
saying that makes it a bad movie because that's a very like
1:59:52
particular skill sets have like it's something that you refine
1:59:55
over time. You know, I just think and I
1:59:59
think especially there's like a little bit of fall back on the
2:00:02
whole like well this is a franchise.
2:00:04
So we, you know, we know that we can include more details later
2:00:08
instead of like because they do a really good job and say ready
2:00:12
or not. Like you have a good idea of who
2:00:14
all the characters are because they're trying to tell that
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singular insulated story. And I think they need to be
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treating each of these as like their own.
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Individual story and like how do we make these characters matter?
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I just want them to do something different with the killer, you
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know, like the other ones they tie in like the relationships or
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like, you know, family stuff and they this was kind of just a
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repeat of that. Like I want to see them go
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somewhere different with it. It would be nice to see a
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different motive altogether. Yeah, and I think it would be
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kind of cool. Like, I know like maybe they're
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not. Maybe this is the core force is
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supposed to be? You know, Sid, Dewey and GAIL,
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where they're like neither of them are ever gonna be the
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killer. But like, I think it would be
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really fun to see one of them and finally just, you know, snap
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and go be full killer. I love you.
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But your numerology was all over the fucking place with that.
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Not numerology, but like your numbers was all over the fucking
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place with that cuz you said core four and then you named
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three names and then you said neither.
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No, I'm talking about the Core 4.
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When I'm talking about the Core 4, I'm purely about this set of
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characters. I know the original 3 is like
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GAIL, Sidney and Dewey. Yeah, But you know, I would just
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like, I think it would be cool to see it come from within the
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group of, like, people that have built up that trust.
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Yeah, I feel like that would be more shocking.
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Trust and like it makes a little bit more sense with this group.
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Whereas like, I always hated the idea of Sydney being the one to
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snap because we've been through her with so much of her growth,
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whereas there's still something different with this set of
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characters. Yeah, same with Dewey.
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He would never really would have been GAIL.
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I would have been able to see, yeah.
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No, I would love if GAIL was a killer at some point.
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Yeah, and she's still can be since she still is around.
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So I guess you can do that. I kind of like the idea of how
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you thought, how you said at the beginning you liked a Ghostface
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calling a copycat. So I would like the idea of
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seeing like, we know who, like one of the supposed ghost faces
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is, and they're part of the friend group, but they're also
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like trying to dodge the real ghost face.
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I love that concept. Yeah, I do like that too.
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That would be kind of cool to see it cuz that gets what you
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get like wanted, where you know who one of the ghost faces is
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from the get go, but they're not really a ghost face.
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Yeah, yeah. All right.
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Do you have any listener reviews?
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Yeah, I do. We have some this time.
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Well, because people have actually heard of this movie.
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Yeah, they're very well aware this one exists.
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OK, we'll start off with our Instagram review.
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So our Instagram review is from none other than Michael E
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Howard. OK, he says This film is a
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perfect end cap to one of the best franchises.
2:02:53
The returning cast boosts the tensions.
2:02:55
The Killers were a surprise until the end.
2:02:57
The fake outs were great. My main criticism is that GAIL
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is underused. Maybe the next film will bring
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her back in a chunky role. 9 out of 10, all right.
2:03:06
Yeah, she, I mean, I believe she was there to like, show them the
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shrine and then she got her moment with Ghostface and then I
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guess they called it a rap. But I guess, you know, if you're
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gonna have her, like, let her be a part of it.
2:03:22
I guess, yeah. You know, other than just being
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Ohh. And GAIL is also around kind of
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doing her thing. Yeah, but I I I get him over on
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Twitter. Aquili boops.
2:03:33
He says this could be my favorite of the franchise.
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Yeah, I said it. Love.
2:03:37
The fact that it was in the city had me guessing the whole time.
2:03:40
The reveal was a little, really. And don't get me started again.
2:03:44
On the whole, who's doing the killing?
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Shit. But I love this movie, OK?
2:03:48
I do want to figure out who was who in this.
2:03:52
Like which Ghostface was the killing?
2:03:54
I'm going to say I never really tried that hard to figure out
2:03:59
who the killer is. I just try and enjoy the ride.
2:04:02
I usually do too, but like, after the fact, I always kind of
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like the review in my head. OK, like, who would have been in
2:04:07
this scene? Yeah.
2:04:09
OK, and finally we have Tyler, he says, such a step up from the
2:04:14
last as far as tension, building kills and set pieces.
2:04:18
I love the progression of Sam's character and I found her a lot
2:04:21
more likeable now that we know her better also.
2:04:24
Thank you, Radio silence for shirtless cowboy Chad.
2:04:27
Y'all are heroes. So you spelled love.
2:04:30
Yeah, he's on the Himbo train with you with Chad right now.
2:04:33
Choo Choo. OK, that's our listener reviews.
2:04:38
OK. All right.
2:04:39
And that is a wrap on our Scream Six episode and our franchise
2:04:43
coverage of this one. Sometime next month, we'll have
2:04:46
our bonus episode where we rank the Scream franchise before we
2:04:50
go into our new franchise of That's.
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2:05:15
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