Latest / The Downing Arts Podcast / ET25.6 A linguist in Peru
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- 0:00Welcome to the Downing Arts Podcast.
- 0:10Following last week's discussion about the film Paddington in Peru, my guest this
- 0:15week is also in Peru. Thomas Davies will be talking about how his year abroad
- 0:19has changed his approach to his photography in just a moment. And while we're on
- 0:22the subject, don't forget the Alumni association photographic competition is open until June
- 0:2715th. All Downing students are eligible to enter. And the theme this
- 0:31year is what Downing special. So why not take a break from
- 0:35the library, grab your phone or a camera and get snapping details
- 0:38in the show notes this
- 0:48week, all the way out in Peru, my guest is Thomas Davies, who's studying
- 0:52modern and medieval languages at Downing. Welcome, Tom. Hey, nice to see you.
- 0:56You're on your year abroad at the moment, aren't you? I am. I'm about five,
- 1:00six, seven months into my year abroad, staying in Lima in per.
- 1:04Having an amazing time. Wow. Now you and I have kept in touch a little
- 1:08bit this year, but could you just explain to our listeners exactly what you've been
- 1:11doing while you've been in Peru? Yeah, sure. So part of the MML
- 1:16HML tripos in Cambridge has a mandatory
- 1:20year abroad which you can choose to split into
- 1:23two destinations. But in my case I chose to do the whole year in Lima
- 1:28and I decided to study. So I've been doing a placement
- 1:31in the university here in Lima, the Pontecino
- 1:35Universidad Catolica del Peru, where I've been studying different subjects
- 1:40not entirely relevant to my degree, some of them more so than others,
- 1:44and then where I kind of also been trying to see as
- 1:48much as possible of the country. So I've. Across the summer holiday,
- 1:52we had like this long summer break from December all the way into the beginning
- 1:55of March. And in that time I was able to see a fair bit,
- 1:59visit a few cities and yeah, really make the most of being
- 2:03in Peru because it's just been an amazing place. Wow. And was it weird having
- 2:07sort of upside down seasons? A little bit. And, and I think as well,
- 2:11what's been surreal is in Peru because you have so many different
- 2:15ecosystems, what might feel like the height
- 2:19of summer in one place in Lima, for example, then you go into the Andes
- 2:23and suddenly I'm putting on waterproof, some wrapping up. And yeah,
- 2:27that, that's been really strange. You get on a bus and one minute you're sweating,
- 2:31the next minute you're, you know, covered in wind and rain and yeah,
- 2:35that, that's been really strange. And having the summer holiday across Christmas as well.
- 2:40Spending Christmas in summer was,
- 2:44was a. An adjustment, but yeah, yeah. And you haven't been home at all?
- 2:48I haven't, no. I've been here all the time. It's a. It's a long way.
- 2:51And obviously I've been missing family and friends, but I think it
- 2:55felt like a once. Well, it's, you know, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity
- 2:59to be in. In Peru for a whole year, and I just wanted to make
- 3:02the most of that. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Wow. Well,
- 3:06do you study two languages for mml?
- 3:09So in my case, my degree is history in Modern Languages,
- 3:12so I only do Spanish because half of
- 3:15my studies is with the history tripos and
- 3:19I'd already studied Spanish for A level. So I came to
- 3:23Peru with, you know, I'd say a fairly comfortable level
- 3:28of Spanish, but that's, that's improved just through being here and being immersed.
- 3:32And all of my classes are obviously taught through the medium of Spanish, which has
- 3:37been another, you know, a challenge, but also a way of, of improving.
- 3:40And it must be a lot of organization to, to sort out your year
- 3:44abroad. I mean, did that take that much time last year? Yeah,
- 3:48you know, it was a strange one. It felt a little bit stressful.
- 3:53But I also, in my case, it was somewhat simpler
- 3:57than some of my friends that have decided to split it across multiple countries.
- 4:00That's like double. Right. So in my case, it wasn't so bad still,
- 4:06you know, visas and confirming things with the university here
- 4:10and, you know, there was a bit of organization and actually as well, once I
- 4:14arrived Peru, oddly enough, they kind of. You arrive on a tourist
- 4:19visa and then you have to convert that. So there was a whole rigmarole of
- 4:23going to migrations and Interpol and getting various biometric
- 4:28data checks and this, that and the other. I remember,
- 4:31I think it was my second week. I'd been in Peru. I had a meeting
- 4:35at Interpol to kind of begin the process of
- 4:39converting my tourist visa into something more permanent. And I arrived
- 4:43in this building and it was this rundown Interpol office and
- 4:48they gave me this form and there was like a diagram of
- 4:52my teeth and I didn't really understand what it was all about. And I was,
- 4:55I was still kind of adjusting to the Spanish. And I was thinking, have I
- 4:58got the right thing here? Are we in the right place? And it was like,
- 5:01no, no, you have to go into that room and there's like a dental check.
- 5:05And that. That felt like a really surreal, a really surreal kind of crash course
- 5:09in Peruvian bureaucracy. But, yeah, no,
- 5:13there's been a fair bit. But thankfully, now I'm settled,
- 5:17I'm able to go about my daily life and I
- 5:21don't run into too many problems with that. Yeah, brilliant. Well,
- 5:24I'm sure there's lots of people who will be very pleased to see you when
- 5:26you get back. And I know that one of your great passions
- 5:30is photography, and I know when you
- 5:34were Downing, your first couple of years, you produced some really amazing work.
- 5:38So have you had much chance to sort of indulge yourself in that while you've
- 5:42been in Peru? I have. It's been fantastic. It's been quite.
- 5:47I don't know, it's been an opportunity to try out some new things photographically.
- 5:50In Cambridge last year, I was mainly doing portraiture,
- 5:55working with Varsity, the student newspaper,
- 5:59and then some bits and bobs with the Hyon Gallery as well, in Downing,
- 6:02and that was something I really enjoyed doing, but just
- 6:07the practicalities and the logistics of bringing stuff basically from
- 6:11the UK into Peru. I had to slim down everything, right. So I bought
- 6:15this little film camera that can just fit in a pocket. And with that,
- 6:20I've been trying to capture more, you know, streets,
- 6:23landscapes, just. Just capturing my travels, really. And I think more
- 6:27than anything else, I just wanted a tangible memory, you know, of.
- 6:31Of the year abroad. And so I've got a folder here with all of the
- 6:34negatives of the developed films and I'll be bringing that with me back to the
- 6:38uk. And that'll be. Yeah, it'll be a nice memory. It will be a nice
- 6:41memory. It's such a lovely thing to do. And I know over the. Well,
- 6:45your summer break of Christmas, you did some pretty amazing.
- 6:49Well, you went to some amazing places. Do you want to just tell us a
- 6:52little bit about that? Sure, yeah. So I had, as I said,
- 6:56I had about three months of Christmas. Christmas,
- 7:00stroke, summer holiday. And,
- 7:04yeah, in that time, I think I'd made the decision fairly early on that
- 7:08instead of trying to, quote, unquote, do South America and
- 7:12see lots of different countries, I was. I was more keen to, you know,
- 7:16really see Peru. Right. Because that's. That's why I came.
- 7:20So the first place I went to was the city of Arequipa, which is
- 7:24in the south of Peru. And while
- 7:28I was there, I got to hike through the canyon, the Canyon del
- 7:32Colca, which is one of the. I think it's something like three times deeper than
- 7:36the Grand Canyon of Nevada. It's like. It's a really huge canyon in Peru,
- 7:40and I wanted to go predominantly to see the Condors,
- 7:44because the Andean condors are this huge, amazing species
- 7:48of vulture. Anyway, yeah, so that was amazing.
- 7:52I spent a few days there. And what was also good is I've been traveling
- 7:56everywhere on the bus. And I think one of the things I wasn't
- 7:59really aware of before coming in my ignorance was how big Peru is.
- 8:04Right. And so some of these bus journeys I'll be doing have been.
- 8:07Well, I went to Cusco. That was, that was the last trip I did.
- 8:10I went to Cusco, which is deeper into the Andes to the east of
- 8:14Lima. It was a 30 hour bus ride. And to
- 8:18get there, going all the way through the mountains and you kind of zigzags
- 8:23and yeah, I had to take some, some travel sickness pills,
- 8:29but that was also amazing. And while I was there, I saw Machu Picchu,
- 8:32but as I said, that was the last thing I did. And I
- 8:36kind of went there because I was sick of people asking me, oh, have you
- 8:39gone to Machu Picchu? Have you go to Machu Picchu yet? Because it feels like,
- 8:43you know, the destination in Peru. But actually some of, some of
- 8:47my real highlights since I've been here have been, I don't know,
- 8:50somewhat lesser known destinations. So I went to the city of Huaras,
- 8:54which is in the north. It's known for the
- 8:58snow peaks. There's really gorgeous,
- 9:03gorgeous mountains. And lagoons, really crystal blue lagoons.
- 9:08And that was actually where I've done some of my favorite photography while I've been
- 9:11here, hiking around some of the lagoons,
- 9:15seeing that. And then over Christmas I spent,
- 9:19I was, I stayed with a Peruvian friend in his hometown called
- 9:24Muruguay, which is, I mean, it's, it's a tiny little town in
- 9:29the middle of the Andes. It's not really on the tourist track per
- 9:33se, but I think that was an amazing opportunity to see a side of Peru
- 9:37that I don't think I would necessarily have seen were it not been for having
- 9:42made this friend. Right. And so that was, that was a
- 9:46real opportunity. And beautiful. I was stunningly beautiful. And because we were over
- 9:50there for Christmas, it was interesting because Perusa, you know, it's a Catholic
- 9:53country, it's quite traditional, particularly in the, in the Andes. And so
- 9:58spending Christmas time in this little village,
- 10:01seeing their traditions and their dances and the masses and.
- 10:04Yeah, that was amazing. I really won't forget that. Wow.
- 10:08And you said that the photography you've done this year has been quite different from
- 10:13what you've done in the past in Cambridge. Do you think having this experience will
- 10:17affect what you do in the future when you come back to the
- 10:21uk, Whether it's choosing to do a different type
- 10:25of photography or whether it sort of will affect the way that you do the
- 10:28portraits that you're talking about. I think that's definitely true. I think
- 10:32more than anything else, it's been getting used to film.
- 10:35Right. Because before in the uk, I'd never shot with film before. It was all
- 10:39digital, relying quite heavily in my portraiture on external
- 10:44lighting, on flashes, diffusion, things like that. And I
- 10:48think the time I've spent just with my little camera has kind of shown
- 10:52me the more trimmed down way of doing photography.
- 10:57And that's something that I'll definitely try and incorporate in some of my portraits because
- 11:01I think there's a value to using natural light shooting on
- 11:05film, which is a more deliberate medium. And,
- 11:09yeah, I'm keen to get back to portraits. I think I'm more.
- 11:14I find it more rewarding than doing landscapes. Having said that,
- 11:18I think on the technical side, I've definitely taken things from
- 11:21this year that I will apply to my portraits later. Has that been a.
- 11:25Has that been a real mindset shift? 100.
- 11:29100%. Yeah. I would. Before, I would be taking hundreds,
- 11:33if not thousands of photos on my digital camera. And the hit rate,
- 11:37if you like, the percentage of those photos that were actually good, that were usable,
- 11:41that I would be putting on social media or whatever will be really small.
- 11:44Whereas with film, I found that because I'm much more
- 11:48deliberate about taking these photos,
- 11:51perversely, although I'm taking far fewer, I'm probably getting
- 11:54better photos and getting more usable photos from that
- 11:59than I would if I'd have been using a digital camera. And I know you've
- 12:01submitted some of your photos to the Leaves anthology, but you don't know
- 12:05which ones have got in. No, no, I'm excited to see.
- 12:09I've. I sent them. This was about a month or so ago, I sent
- 12:13them some photos from my travels. I think at that point I hadn't yet been
- 12:17to Cusco, so the photos are predominantly of Arequipa
- 12:22and Jura Grass. But, yeah, excited to see what the editors do
- 12:26with them, how they. How they actually appear. It will
- 12:30be a departure because I submitted last year as well, but that was all my
- 12:34portrait work, so it will be interesting to see. It'll be my first
- 12:38time seeing my landscapes in print, so I'm excited to see how
- 12:41they turn out. Well, that'll be a treat for you when you get back here.
- 12:45Yes. Back to college. And I know that yeah, we'll be very glad to have
- 12:49you back and thank you so much for chatting today and see you soon.
- 12:58This week in College Tonight in the Howard Theatre at 5:30,
- 13:01History of the Present will be screening. See the show Notes for details on
- 13:05where to get your ticket. And at 9:30pm The Chapel Choir sing
- 13:09the final choral Complin service of the year with beautiful music by William
- 13:13Bird and Lucy Walker, followed by port and hot chocolate. What better way to
- 13:17wind down at the end of a long day? On Sunday at 6pm there'll
- 13:21be a choral Eucharist in the chapel on the theme of the Ascension, including Finzi's
- 13:25classic anthem God is Gone. Up. Take a break. Choir is back on Monday at
- 13:295 this week with music from Mamma Mia. Whether you're being a super trooper powering
- 13:34through exams or you're feeling like a dancing queen, come along and let off steam
- 13:37for half an hour. The next exhibition in the Hyung Gallery opens on Friday next
- 13:42week and will showcase the work of major British abstract artist Gillian Ayres.
- 13:46Tune in again next week to hear more. Thanks for listening.