Latest / Choppin’ It Up by Bloomberg Intelligence / Costa Vida’s Allen on Catering, Tech and AI
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- 0:13Speaker 1: Welcome to Chopping It Up. I'm your host, Mike Hanlon,
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- 0:30Speaker 1: Today we're joined by Wade Allen, president of Costa Vida
- 0:33Speaker 1: Fresh Mexican Grill, a fast casual restaurant chain. Welcome to the.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Pod, Wade, his Michael, good to be here, man, super pumped.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Yeah, Man, good to see you man. What attracted to
- 0:44Speaker 1: the brand?
- 0:44Speaker 3: Ah Man, that is a that's an unpacking story, but
- 0:47Speaker 3: I'll tell you I met I engaged with this brand
- 0:52Speaker 3: in early two thousand. I grew up in Salt Lake City,
- 0:55Speaker 3: and I kind of went out to find greener pastures
- 0:58Speaker 3: and across the country and the world actually, but I
- 1:00Speaker 3: would come back and visit family. And I actually bumped
- 1:02Speaker 3: into Coasta Vida probably two thousand and three and one
- 1:05Speaker 3: of their first restaurants, and the.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Taste was unique.
- 1:09Speaker 3: The whole experience was something I had never gone through
- 1:12Speaker 3: with the freshness and the cues. So I knew about it,
- 1:15Speaker 3: my family raved about it. And then years later when
- 1:19Speaker 3: I was had been with Chili's for a decade and
- 1:22Speaker 3: I had Kevin Hawkman come in and we kind of transitioned,
- 1:25Speaker 3: and I was leaving the brand. Lo and Behold, I
- 1:27Speaker 3: spoke at an event and uh front and center with
- 1:30Speaker 3: the two CEOs for Coasta Vida and they said, Hey,
- 1:33Speaker 3: do you ever be interested in coming back to Utah
- 1:35Speaker 3: and leading this brand as a president? And I said,
- 1:38Speaker 3: sign me up, let me know when and I'll be there.
- 1:40Speaker 3: And that's kind of how it all came together.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Oh that's very cool. You know, I'm not too familiar
- 1:46Speaker 1: with the brand. Can you tell me what makes Costa
- 1:49Speaker 1: Vida unique?
- 1:50Speaker 3: Yeah, So, just to give you kind of a contextual reference,
- 1:53Speaker 3: it is a fast, casual fresh Mexican grill is what
- 1:57Speaker 3: we referenced it. But basically it's it's kind of the
- 1:59Speaker 3: fast as a counter service. So we do all fresh
- 2:02Speaker 3: food in the morning, we make all of our proteins,
- 2:03Speaker 3: we make chop all of our vegetables, and then we
- 2:06Speaker 3: place them on the line and we scoop and serve
- 2:09Speaker 3: throughout the day. The I think the most unique aspect
- 2:13Speaker 3: of Kostavita is this Baja flavor profile. And we we
- 2:17Speaker 3: have a product called sweet Pork that literally is legally addictive.
- 2:21Speaker 2: I mean, it is so.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Good, and we have we have a lot, a lot
- 2:26Speaker 3: of customers who love this product and just live and
- 2:29Speaker 3: die by it.
- 2:30Speaker 2: You'll see that.
- 2:31Speaker 3: You'll find the recipes online. Everybody's trying to copy it
- 2:33Speaker 3: and figure it out.
- 2:34Speaker 2: You know.
- 2:34Speaker 3: We we spend a lot of time kind of marinating
- 2:36Speaker 3: it and creating it in the mornings before we serve it.
- 2:39Speaker 3: But sweet pork, we have phenomenal Keeso, a really delicious
- 2:43Speaker 3: to matill ranch. I'm talking about core equities for the brand.
- 2:46Speaker 3: And then I think we have the best desserts in
- 2:49Speaker 3: fast casual. We have a Traceh's cake that I can't
- 2:53Speaker 3: get enough of, and then a key Lime and I'm
- 2:55Speaker 3: a huge key Lime connoisseur that I think could rival
- 2:57Speaker 3: any other fast casual restaurant or even catch dining restaurants dessert.
- 3:01Speaker 2: So that's kind of the rundown.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Makes me hungry, man, it sounds great. How would you
- 3:07Speaker 1: describe the company culture at Coasta Vida at Coasta Vida
- 3:11Speaker 1: and how do you maintain it as you grow.
- 3:13Speaker 3: Yeah, we're very entrepreneurial, pretty scrappy. We punch away above
- 3:18Speaker 3: our weight. We're only just under one hundred restaurants. I'd
- 3:21Speaker 3: say we're probably mid nineties, depending on if we get
- 3:25Speaker 3: these next two in the ground here in the next month.
- 3:28Speaker 3: But we are very entrepreneurial, so we wear a lot of hats,
- 3:31Speaker 3: we play a lot of different roles.
- 3:33Speaker 2: It is a super fun culture.
- 3:35Speaker 3: So we take everybody to Mexico every year, back to
- 3:38Speaker 3: our roots of the Baja into Fort Devarta, and we
- 3:42Speaker 3: spend a week at Lake Powell here in Utah on
- 3:44Speaker 3: houseboats to engage as a culture and to kind of
- 3:47Speaker 3: learn about each other off and outside of work. So
- 3:51Speaker 3: it's very vibrant, it's very collaborative, and we're scrappy, right,
- 3:56Speaker 3: That's how i'd explain it.
- 3:58Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like fun. How many restaurants and what's
- 4:02Speaker 1: the split between corporate and franchise units.
- 4:05Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're ninety two today, hope to be close
- 4:07Speaker 3: to ninety five by the end of the year. We
- 4:10Speaker 3: may push into the beginning of the year with that
- 4:13Speaker 3: ninety five mark. We corporate owns thirty one and the
- 4:18Speaker 3: rest are franchised. Amongst about thirteen fourteen different partners. Most
- 4:23Speaker 3: of our franchise partners will own three or four, some
- 4:28Speaker 3: own as many as twelve. And we're scattered across the
- 4:31Speaker 3: western US, So we have been in Canada for a while.
- 4:34Speaker 3: We've kind of divested those restaurants, but really California, Nevada, Utah, Idaho, Arizona, Texas,
- 4:41Speaker 3: a little bit in Washington, and that's kind of kind
- 4:44Speaker 3: of the core set. We have a few east of
- 4:47Speaker 3: the Mississippi, but only a few right one of Tennessee.
- 4:51Speaker 3: We have one up in Minneapolis, Minnesota. That's kind of
- 4:55Speaker 3: one in Kansas City. That's kind of the rundown.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Okay, what are the demographic So the typical Coast to
- 5:01Speaker 1: Beat a customer.
- 5:02Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
- 5:04Speaker 3: She's the customer scuse female and is about feeding a
- 5:08Speaker 3: family of two or three kids. The focus is really
- 5:11Speaker 3: she's trying to eat healthy herself and feed her kids healthy.
- 5:15Speaker 3: We tend to compete best against the QSRs of the world,
- 5:20Speaker 3: So rather than feed your family out of a sack,
- 5:21Speaker 3: come to Coast to Beat and have fresh food for
- 5:23Speaker 3: roughly or close to the same price point.
- 5:27Speaker 2: And she's.
- 5:30Speaker 3: You know, when you look at that archetype she's super
- 5:33Speaker 3: engaged in her kids' lives, what they eat, what they consume,
- 5:37Speaker 3: tends to be kind of the mom, the soccer mom.
- 5:40Speaker 3: That's kind of the angle. I think household income is generally,
- 5:43Speaker 3: excuse a little bit higher than middle class, So I
- 5:45Speaker 3: would say kind of eighty to ninety thousand dollars household range.
- 5:49Speaker 3: But we do kind of run up and down depending
- 5:51Speaker 3: on the areas that we're in and the locations we're in.
- 5:54Speaker 3: As most economics, if you can afford it. That demographic
- 5:57Speaker 3: wants fresh food if they can get it. So that's
- 5:59Speaker 3: kind of the kind of the look of our customer.
- 6:02Speaker 1: And are you so, are you mainly targeting targeting those
- 6:04Speaker 1: soccer moms or do you have some some ways to
- 6:07Speaker 1: target the kids as well.
- 6:09Speaker 3: Yeah, we do. We have a great we have a
- 6:12Speaker 3: great kids meal. We have a great cinnamon tortilla that's
- 6:15Speaker 3: free with every one of our kids meals that comes,
- 6:17Speaker 3: which is really delicious, kids love. It's probably the number
- 6:19Speaker 3: one dessert resell. We play a lot in high schools
- 6:24Speaker 3: and junior highs and middle schools. We always talk about
- 6:28Speaker 3: being close to the action for the school, and that's
- 6:31Speaker 3: football's or football programs and basketball programs, sports programs we're in.
- 6:37Speaker 3: You know, we're part of the banquets at the end
- 6:39Speaker 3: of the year for all of the sports but also
- 6:41Speaker 3: all of the music departments. And we place our restaurants
- 6:45Speaker 3: pretty close to high schools because we know, I'll use
- 6:48Speaker 3: a bad term here, but we like to indoctor and
- 6:50Speaker 3: nate them young on our food. Right, Like, you get
- 6:52Speaker 3: them in and they love the food and it becomes
- 6:55Speaker 3: a staple for us because they stay with the brand.
- 6:58Speaker 1: And high school boys can eat I say that from experience.
- 7:02Speaker 3: Yeah, massive burritos and those guys will choot that they'll
- 7:05Speaker 3: pound their two of them.
- 7:06Speaker 2: Right.
- 7:06Speaker 1: So it's been widely publicized that fast casual sales are
- 7:10Speaker 1: under pressure this year. How it is close to Vita performed.
- 7:14Speaker 3: It has been a tougher year than last year. Last
- 7:17Speaker 3: year we had a marquee year. I mean we made
- 7:19Speaker 3: more money last year and drove more profitability than ever.
- 7:22Speaker 3: This year has been tougher, stiffer headwind, but we've also
- 7:25Speaker 3: had a steeper hill to climb to get over year
- 7:27Speaker 3: over year sales in traffic right now, where as a
- 7:31Speaker 3: year to date we're up about half a percent in
- 7:33Speaker 3: sales and our traffic's about down about zero point seventy
- 7:36Speaker 3: five to a percentage point in traffic, though I will
- 7:40Speaker 3: tell you August was a little slow for US September
- 7:44Speaker 3: thus far, two weeks in, we're ripping.
- 7:47Speaker 2: I'm looking to be off on our good run.
- 7:49Speaker 3: So I'm hoping the back half of this year kind
- 7:52Speaker 3: of rebounds a little bit better to closer to the
- 7:54Speaker 3: three and a half percent we were up last year.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Very cool. Have you what have you seen? Have you
- 7:59Speaker 1: seen any sort of benefit from Chipotle's recent troubles or
- 8:02Speaker 1: is there not too much overlap with them?
- 8:04Speaker 3: I mean our markets with Chipotle, they're they're definitely present.
- 8:09Speaker 3: They're not the ones that I that I believe we're
- 8:11Speaker 3: still in market share from there, but they're in their
- 8:15Speaker 3: Their wabble, obviously is to our benefits, so we give
- 8:18Speaker 3: big portions. We always had leaned into the portions, but
- 8:21Speaker 3: we also have them early on priced in and and
- 8:24Speaker 3: in in our core set, so it wasn't as if
- 8:28Speaker 3: we had backed off of that kind of volume of food.
- 8:32Speaker 3: So I think there's probably some benefit there. I think
- 8:34Speaker 3: the bigger benefit for US has just been local players
- 8:37Speaker 3: that here have started to wabble. We've been able to pull.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Markets share from and grow our business on our cop set.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Yeah, and and just in generally, you know, casual dining,
- 8:47Speaker 1: it's lapping easier comps, but also supply and demand is
- 8:52Speaker 1: probably better in that space than QS are and fast
- 8:55Speaker 1: casual right now. I think that's part of the outperformance.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Do you have any uh, any other theories or thoughts
- 9:02Speaker 1: about why you think casual dining has been able to
- 9:05Speaker 1: outperform this year?
- 9:06Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think I have to give credit
- 9:09Speaker 3: where credits due. I think the Chili's team has awakened
- 9:12Speaker 3: a lot of the younger consumers, the young millennials and
- 9:17Speaker 3: Gen Z population to a form of restaurants that they
- 9:22Speaker 3: weren't aware of, right. I don't think they played. I
- 9:24Speaker 3: don't think a lot of that generation spent a lot
- 9:26Speaker 3: of time going to an Applebe's or hanging out in
- 9:28Speaker 3: a Fridays or walking over to the Chilis. And so
- 9:31Speaker 3: the work that's been done at Chile's on the social
- 9:33Speaker 3: side and being part of that cultural zeitgeist has woken
- 9:37Speaker 3: up a generation to, oh, my goodness, there is another
- 9:39Speaker 3: option for us other than eating out of a sack
- 9:42Speaker 3: or going and paying pretty close to the same price
- 9:45Speaker 3: for food on a scoop and serve and so I
- 9:48Speaker 3: definitely think that's driving some of it, you know, from
- 9:51Speaker 3: the data I've seen, And Mike, we can correct me
- 9:53Speaker 3: on this, but it really feels like Chili's is a winner.
- 9:55Speaker 3: Roadhouse continues to deliver maybe all of Garden a little bit,
- 9:58Speaker 3: but the rest of the group I'm kind of watching
- 10:00Speaker 3: and they I don't know if they have the same
- 10:02Speaker 3: run or lift those those players were getting.
- 10:06Speaker 2: And so what's driving casual dying?
- 10:08Speaker 3: I really have to give the credit back to Chile's
- 10:10Speaker 3: to waking up the group and outperforming.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's a big part of it.
- 10:16Speaker 1: And then Darden talked about value a little bit today.
- 10:20Speaker 1: You know, when QSR was able to raise prices before
- 10:24Speaker 1: everyone else in twenty twenty and early twenty twenty one,
- 10:28Speaker 1: you kind of and and then kept pace with the
- 10:30Speaker 1: price increases of everybody else. You know, they their prices
- 10:33Speaker 1: just kind of their price increases led the entire industry,
- 10:37Speaker 1: that's for sure.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, they were got way ahead of themselves, for sure.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Yeah. What are what are your AUVs and what do
- 10:45Speaker 1: you have planned to boost SAM store sales in the
- 10:47Speaker 1: next twelve months.
- 10:49Speaker 3: So our our AUV is a brand, franchise and corporate
- 10:54Speaker 3: together is about two point one million. It's kind of
- 10:56Speaker 3: where we sit. We do run slightly better evs on
- 11:00Speaker 3: our corporate stores at about two four or two five,
- 11:03Speaker 3: depending on the area that you're in in our our
- 11:06Speaker 3: So that's that's kind of lifting us a little bit
- 11:08Speaker 3: as we go through, and then it's about two million
- 11:12Speaker 3: with our with our franchise partners. My focus really has
- 11:14Speaker 3: always been on comp store set and it's about operational excellence,
- 11:17Speaker 3: and so I'm super dialed in on brand standards and consistency.
- 11:21Speaker 3: When we run the standard and we stay close to
- 11:23Speaker 3: our brand's commitment of quality food and uh, you know,
- 11:29Speaker 3: portion size, we do really really well. I think we've
- 11:33Speaker 3: got We're working on empowering and engaging our team members
- 11:35Speaker 3: more so. We're working on getting our turnover down. You know,
- 11:38Speaker 3: we're kind of hovering in that one hundred plus mark
- 11:41Speaker 3: managers excluded, kind of just slightly over the hundred marked
- 11:44Speaker 3: with our team members, and I think we can do
- 11:45Speaker 3: a better job there and empower them when they're on
- 11:47Speaker 3: the line working with the guests to make the right
- 11:50Speaker 3: decision to give a little bit more knowing that we'll
- 11:52Speaker 3: get a return transaction out of that and not Nickel
- 11:54Speaker 3: dime our customers.
- 11:56Speaker 2: And then the last one.
- 11:56Speaker 3: Is I really really talk about systems and efficiencies in
- 12:00Speaker 3: systems and process and when we run the same systems
- 12:04Speaker 3: and processes with our restaurants and our I team can
- 12:07Speaker 3: support those KDS systems and the POS systems and making
- 12:11Speaker 3: sure that we're doing all the right stuff from the
- 12:12Speaker 3: HRS systems, that then we have success. So I think
- 12:16Speaker 3: the the one thing I am really working on for
- 12:18Speaker 3: next year on this comp number is we were really
- 12:22Speaker 3: smart on pricing. We're not going to overstep ourselves. We
- 12:25Speaker 3: always are very conservative, but we know what the impacts
- 12:28Speaker 3: can be. And then I so I take I do.
- 12:30Speaker 3: I will take price, but I'll be smart on the
- 12:31Speaker 3: way to take price. And then I'm really trying to
- 12:33Speaker 3: get the brand essence in our in our marketing, which
- 12:38Speaker 3: is really about this term so good.
- 12:40Speaker 2: When everybody eats costavda to go, man, that is just
- 12:42Speaker 2: so good.
- 12:43Speaker 3: And so we've coined that and we're using it hard
- 12:45Speaker 3: in our in our marketing about fresh quality product and
- 12:51Speaker 3: this kind of echoing chime of so good. So I'm
- 12:53Speaker 3: hoping those will all lead to better comp sales next year.
- 12:57Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome. I say so good all the time.
- 13:01Speaker 2: I love it.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Due, that's awesome. So what kind of unit growth do
- 13:06Speaker 1: you expect moving forward next you know, next year, twenty
- 13:10Speaker 1: twenty seven, and where are you really excited about expanding?
- 13:16Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 13:16Speaker 3: So I this year, we've put together a plan. We
- 13:18Speaker 3: call it the H five five five hundred, So in
- 13:21Speaker 3: five years, five step plan to grow to half a million,
- 13:25Speaker 3: half a billion dollars in evaluation across our restaurant set.
- 13:28Speaker 3: So there is a plan in place. The first year
- 13:31Speaker 3: is really about kind of we got to get our unigo.
- 13:33Speaker 3: You talked about it unit growth going. That's a big
- 13:35Speaker 3: part of this equation. And I feel like our opportunity
- 13:40Speaker 3: obviously is to win outside Utah, we just dominate. We'll
- 13:42Speaker 3: open a restaurant and we'll hit three million, you know,
- 13:46Speaker 3: without a lot of work.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Wow.
- 13:48Speaker 3: In Vegas and Colorado and Arizona and Texas, we got
- 13:51Speaker 3: to get our AUVs kind of north of that two
- 13:53Speaker 3: million and starting to rip, and they don't know our
- 13:56Speaker 3: brand as well. And so that for me is I'm
- 13:58Speaker 3: gonna I'm going to open in these outer mark It's
- 14:00Speaker 3: I've got a plan in a strategy in order to
- 14:02Speaker 3: open big and open and be consistent, to drive quickly
- 14:06Speaker 3: to get our return back and make sure that we
- 14:10Speaker 3: hurdle into profitability. We're looking at probably eight to ten
- 14:14Speaker 3: a year in this first in this next year, and
- 14:18Speaker 3: then our goal is to stay on that clip with
- 14:20Speaker 3: our franchise partners also growing at not quite that aggressive,
- 14:24Speaker 3: but i'd say i'd say three to five across the
- 14:27Speaker 3: franchise set every year. And then it's about looking for
- 14:31Speaker 3: acquisition opportunities as they come along that we could take
- 14:34Speaker 3: into our brand. You know, obviously clean those up, make
- 14:38Speaker 3: them coasters, and grow into a complementary foothold that we
- 14:42Speaker 3: don't have today. That's what that five five five hundred
- 14:45Speaker 3: is focused on.
- 14:46Speaker 1: Oh so that's interesting. So it's similar to Kava and
- 14:50Speaker 1: what they did.
- 14:51Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, yeah, just following that playbook and seeing that
- 14:54Speaker 3: that playbook can work.
- 14:55Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it really boosted their store growth and
- 14:58Speaker 1: same source of sales growth, all that good stuff. Very cool.
- 15:03Speaker 1: Your catering business is pretty sizable, man. You know, I
- 15:07Speaker 1: listened to your panel at prosper you know, I was impressed. Uh,
- 15:13Speaker 1: talk to me a little bit about Costavita's approach to
- 15:15Speaker 1: that business.
- 15:17Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I I'm still the term that Noah
- 15:20Speaker 3: Glass used rightature bleachers and uh teachers is what he said, right,
- 15:26Speaker 3: But it's exactly what our strategy has.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Been with Costa.
- 15:30Speaker 3: We we have the distinct advantage of having food that
- 15:33Speaker 3: carries really well, you know, putting it in heat wheels
- 15:36Speaker 3: and carrying it to a work facility or a school,
- 15:40Speaker 3: and a great packaging display goes a long way for
- 15:45Speaker 3: Costa and so we we kind of leaned into this,
- 15:48Speaker 3: you know, this this halo of being in Salt Lake City.
- 15:50Speaker 2: You're around a lot of churches and a lot of
- 15:52Speaker 2: church going people, and so that was.
- 15:53Speaker 3: An easy lean in on, well, every one of these
- 15:56Speaker 3: churches around here are going to have something on Saturday
- 15:58Speaker 3: night or Wednesday night.
- 15:59Speaker 2: Can we cater it? Right? And then we started leaning
- 16:01Speaker 2: into schools, and.
- 16:02Speaker 3: Then we lean into two PTA's and then we've learned
- 16:05Speaker 3: leaned into school districts and that's been a big opportunity
- 16:09Speaker 3: for us to just continues to pay well and pay back.
- 16:13Speaker 3: We have a fleet called fleet. We have a handful
- 16:16Speaker 3: of individuals who are solely dedicated and focused on caterings
- 16:21Speaker 3: across a certain number of restaurants, and so their whole
- 16:24Speaker 3: focus is drum up sales, make connections, be in the
- 16:27Speaker 3: chamber of commerce, talk to schools, talk to people, you know.
- 16:30Speaker 3: So when the phone rings they show up, they white
- 16:32Speaker 3: glove it, they put it out there, and that business
- 16:35Speaker 3: starts to then churn up. And that's been a great
- 16:37Speaker 3: model for us, and it's.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Been really really strong.
- 16:41Speaker 3: I mean, we were probably a four percent catering business
- 16:45Speaker 3: for years and then we made the jump to the
- 16:47Speaker 3: high sixes and now we're knocking on the door to
- 16:49Speaker 3: get into the ten mark, the nine to ten mark,
- 16:52Speaker 3: and that has materially changed our business, and so much so, Michael,
- 16:55Speaker 3: that this is how it looks when I look at
- 16:56Speaker 3: the year to date or every now year to date,
- 17:00Speaker 3: every single day in sales. Sometimes there's volatility, and that
- 17:03Speaker 3: number depending on how big the catering sales were this
- 17:06Speaker 3: year versus last year, and so I have to exclude
- 17:09Speaker 3: catering from that and then look at it again and say, Okay,
- 17:11Speaker 3: the comp sets up slightly, but the catering just got
- 17:14Speaker 3: you know, we just killed it yesterday, and catering across
- 17:18Speaker 3: the brand. So I think it and I said it
- 17:21Speaker 3: at prosper I'll say it again, if you're not paying
- 17:24Speaker 3: attention to this, you're missing a huge opportunity to drive
- 17:27Speaker 3: a revenue stream that you you that is pretty easy
- 17:29Speaker 3: to get going if you're focused on it.
- 17:31Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have the packaging and the display is right.
- 17:35Speaker 1: It's a good way to attract new customers too, right.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 17:37Speaker 3: Absolutely brings them to the brand they've never been to
- 17:40Speaker 3: and they go, Man, I got to get more of this, right.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys are really ahead of the curve.
- 17:43Speaker 2: It's great.
- 17:44Speaker 1: Are you working on any technology initiatives at the moment.
- 17:47Speaker 3: I've got a couple of AI things I'm dabbling with
- 17:50Speaker 3: trying to figure out. We get a lot of calls
- 17:52Speaker 3: into our call center for kind of i'll call them
- 17:54Speaker 3: mundane questions. Do you have a patio, what are your hours?
- 17:58Speaker 3: Kind of bring a dog to the restaurant, you know
- 17:59Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. AI is super good to answer
- 18:02Speaker 3: that stuff right out of the gate and pretty responsive.
- 18:05Speaker 3: I'm looking on I'm working on outdoor boards as well
- 18:08Speaker 3: for our restaurants in the drive through, and it's part
- 18:11Speaker 3: of a bigger initiative to ensure that our POS system
- 18:13Speaker 3: is intimately connected with all of our boards, both in
- 18:16Speaker 3: the restaurant and outside of the restaurant. So if we
- 18:18Speaker 3: eighty six an item on the POS, not only does
- 18:20Speaker 3: it go across our restaurants digitally, but then it sends
- 18:24Speaker 3: that command to OLO and to the third party is
- 18:27Speaker 3: to have it pulled off as well from that particular store.
- 18:29Speaker 3: So I know there's others ahead of us on this part,
- 18:31Speaker 3: but this for us is a big initiative. And the
- 18:34Speaker 3: digital boards to reduce missing it incorrect where they read
- 18:38Speaker 3: back in real time what you're ordering, so the guest
- 18:41Speaker 3: understands that is the correct order, which will dramatically reduce
- 18:46Speaker 3: that pain point of I didn't get the extra ranch,
- 18:48Speaker 3: now my salad's ruined, or I got the wrong protein
- 18:52Speaker 3: on the burrito which I'm going to feed it to
- 18:54Speaker 3: the dog now because I'm mad, kind of stuff. So
- 18:56Speaker 3: that's the initiatives that we're really really trying to.
- 19:01Speaker 1: Okay cool, and you know, I know you have a
- 19:05Speaker 1: strong technology background. What roles do you see AI and
- 19:08Speaker 1: AGENTIC AI you know, playing for playing for you right
- 19:13Speaker 1: and and senior management in the restaurant business.
- 19:15Speaker 3: I I definitely think that it will it'll help the
- 19:21Speaker 3: manager be more focused on being hospitable and less being
- 19:24Speaker 3: stuck in the back office.
- 19:26Speaker 2: So there's these processes.
- 19:27Speaker 3: That run or need to be run, or an analysis
- 19:30Speaker 3: that needs to be consumed by the human brain before
- 19:33Speaker 3: they go out on the line to engage with the guests.
- 19:35Speaker 3: And a lot of times we get stuck in the
- 19:37Speaker 3: back office and then we start hiding in the back
- 19:39Speaker 3: office and that becomes our day. What we want is
- 19:43Speaker 3: the AI to run that analysis to present easy solutions
- 19:46Speaker 3: or easy answers to questions they may have in real
- 19:49Speaker 3: time to allow to get out of the back office
- 19:52Speaker 3: and be more on the line, engaging with guests, promoting
- 19:55Speaker 3: the food, promoting the experience.
- 19:56Speaker 2: So I know that's.
- 19:58Speaker 3: General, but I do believe that it's going to start
- 20:01Speaker 3: with GMS in the back office and improvements on how
- 20:04Speaker 3: that works.
- 20:05Speaker 2: I'm a huge buff on computer vision.
- 20:07Speaker 3: I still think you know, we work with Savvy, which
- 20:10Speaker 3: is a group here, but there's a lot of different
- 20:12Speaker 3: computer systems out there that our vision AI systems that
- 20:14Speaker 3: will help you kind of security wise.
- 20:16Speaker 2: And look at what's going on in restaurant. But I
- 20:18Speaker 2: think there's a huge opportunity.
- 20:19Speaker 3: For AI to be involved there to help almost build
- 20:24Speaker 3: like a remember when you played sports, you watched film, right,
- 20:28Speaker 3: and you'd like figure out what happened.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Well.
- 20:30Speaker 3: AI needs to be able to identify quickly where are
- 20:32Speaker 3: the pain points in this camera that we've seen throughout
- 20:34Speaker 3: the day, pull them out, short them up, tag them
- 20:38Speaker 3: to an idea of a transaction, and then let me
- 20:42Speaker 3: brief my team for five minutes in the morning.
- 20:45Speaker 2: Hey, let's look at some film. What went wrong? What
- 20:48Speaker 2: went right? How could we made it better?
- 20:49Speaker 3: Like I started thinking about that and go when when
- 20:51Speaker 3: I played rugby, we'd watched film all day long, and
- 20:53Speaker 3: that's how I got better.
- 20:54Speaker 2: It was because I knew what I was doing wrong.
- 20:56Speaker 3: So there's there's something there I think that we could
- 21:00Speaker 3: tease out at some point.
- 21:01Speaker 2: Very cool.
- 21:02Speaker 1: Thanks for doing this, Wade, it was good to see you.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Good to catch up.
- 21:05Speaker 2: Thanks man, appreciate it. Man, it's been great all right.
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