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- 0:00What just happened might confirm that the paper Bitcoin attack is
- 0:04finally over. The entire space has been
- 0:08speculating for a long time that the Bitcoin ETS were creating
- 0:11paper Bitcoin because they were settling transactions in cash.
- 0:15But what just happened literally hours ago changes everything.
- 0:20So what am I talking about? Actually, before I move on, of
- 0:23course I'm here with the wonderful, the great speaking
- 0:27and beautiful Internet Sophie AKA Niko's wife.
- 0:32So what? Again, what am I talking about?
- 0:34So yesterday we got some huge news coming out of the SECI Know
- 0:38everyone in the chat doesn't like the SEC, but hey, they do
- 0:43essentially write the rules of the road here.
- 0:46And for the audio listeners, this is the press release coming
- 0:49from the sec.gov and it is headline SEC permits in kind
- 0:53creations and redemption for crypto ET PS.
- 0:57And so before I move on, for people that don't know what in
- 0:59kind redemptions are, it basically means that this fun
- 1:03like the I bid or the Fidelity one or the Arc shares can redeem
- 1:08their shares and receive actual Bitcoin instead of cash.
- 1:12And of course, this differs from where it is right now, which are
- 1:14purely cash redemption where the fund would essentially need to
- 1:18sell their Bitcoin on the open market to give the investor
- 1:21Fiat. So TLDR here, you know, the
- 1:24short of it is it seems like they've fundamentally changed
- 1:28the rules of the ETF to be real Bitcoin going in and then of
- 1:33course real Bitcoin being sold out and we'll go into the
- 1:37implications and stuff afterwards.
- 1:39I want to read the press release.
- 1:40There is some interesting stuff in this press release.
- 1:42It is, it is pretty, you know, like corporate speak a lot of
- 1:45it. So it will be a little boring.
- 1:46But anyways, the SEC today voted to approve orders to permit in
- 1:50kind creations and redemptions by authorized part participants
- 1:54for crypto asset exchange traded products, AKAETP shares or as
- 1:58more commonly called ETS. And to to be remembered or
- 2:02reminded here, one of the huge authorized participants of the
- 2:06BlackRock ETF is JP Morgan and they have been making a lot of
- 2:10moves into Bitcoin. So this is very interesting
- 2:13stuff even though. This press release is pretty.
- 2:16Cold and boring the orders approved today reflect A
- 2:20departure like I said from recently approved spot Bitcoin
- 2:22and shit coin Etps which were limited to creations and
- 2:26redemptions on an in cash basis basis.
- 2:29With today's approval orders Bitcoin consistent with other
- 2:32commodity based etps approved by the Commission will be permitted
- 2:36to create and redeem shares on an in kind basis.
- 2:39Again, real Bitcoin going in real Bitcoin going out quote,
- 2:42it's a new day at the SEC and a key priority of my chairmanship
- 2:46is developing a fit for purpose regulatory framework for crypto
- 2:49asset market, said SEC Chairman Paul asked Atkins.
- 2:53I am pleased the Commission approved these orders permitting
- 2:55in kind creations and redemption for a host of crypto asset.
- 2:59ETP investors will benefit from these approvals as they will
- 3:02make these products, quote, less costly and more efficient.
- 3:07Again, extra quote. Today's approvals continue to
- 3:09build a rational regulatory framework for crypto, leading to
- 3:12a deeper, more dynamic market, which will benefit all American
- 3:16investors. This decisions align with the
- 3:18standard practices for similar Etps.
- 3:21What the referencing here is in Europe, they already basically
- 3:24have income redemptions here. So it does seem like there's
- 3:27some standard standardization happening across all
- 3:29institutions globally. On the one hand, I think this is
- 3:32really good. Now the paper Bitcoin, I guess I
- 3:35would say FUD of are these ETFs actually buying Bitcoin if
- 3:39they're just settling in cash? I think now it's completely
- 3:43being cleared away. That FUD seems to be going away
- 3:46now. It's going to be interesting
- 3:47what happened on the I mean, I don't know if you guys looked at
- 3:50the price this morning, but it is reacting I would say a little
- 3:53unfavorably. I don't know if it's about this
- 3:55news or really there is some speculation of what's going to
- 3:58come out of the White House crypto report.
- 4:00I will kind of cover that later in the show.
- 4:02Again, nothing definitive there, but it seems like people are
- 4:05very bearish on what's coming out of the report.
- 4:08I think the high as I said yesterday is a buy the rumors
- 4:11sell the news types of that yesterday.
- 4:13Anyways, Jamie Selway, director of the Division of Trading and
- 4:16Markets said, and here is this the one.
- 4:20No, OK, sorry. The next paragraph is where some
- 4:22interesting stuff comes out, which could kind of open up, I
- 4:25think an even bigger paper attack.
- 4:27So let me hold off for a little bit.
- 4:29Quote the Commission's decision today is an important
- 4:31development for the growing marketplace for crypto based
- 4:33Etps in kind creation and redemption provide flexibility
- 4:37and cost savings to ETP issuers, authorized participants and
- 4:41investors, resulting in a quote more efficient market.
- 4:45And I'll break down kind of what they mean by this more efficient
- 4:48market. It's I don't think it's
- 4:49necessarily for the ETF issuers. I think it's really more for the
- 4:53Bitcoin market in general. But there is I believe it's in
- 4:56this paragraph that there is some yes, it's this paragraph.
- 5:00There's some interesting stuff here when we were going over
- 5:02this. On the one hand it does seem
- 5:05like the quote paper Bitcoin attack from the ETFs is over,
- 5:10but from the other other attack. Here, let me let me just read
- 5:16this for you. So the Commission also voted to
- 5:18approve other orders that advance a merit neutral approach
- 5:21to crypto based products, including exchange application
- 5:24seeking to list and trade an ETP that would hold mix spot Bitcoin
- 5:28options on certain spot Bitcoin Etps, flexible exchange options
- 5:32on shares of certain BTC based Etps, and an increase of
- 5:36position limits up to the generic limits for options up to
- 5:38250,000 contracts for listed options on certain BTCETPS or
- 5:44ETS. Additionally, the Commission
- 5:46issued 2 scheduling orders soliciting comments, etcetera,
- 5:49etcetera, etcetera. Anyways, why it does this
- 5:52paragraph in particular make it seem like they might be
- 5:55expanding the quote paper Bitcoin attack is because this
- 5:58emphasis on options. Now the kind of framework that
- 6:03most people have been using is this is very good for the
- 6:06market. Again, real Bitcoin going in,
- 6:08real Bitcoin going out and let's just talk about how much Bitcoin
- 6:12the ETFs or Etps actually have. Again, guys, they have a 1.298
- 6:18million, 268 Bitcoin allegedly in these ETFs.
- 6:24So for a while it was cash redemptions.
- 6:26Now it seems like if they have to do any kind of financial
- 6:30maneuvering, engineering to get all of that Bitcoin, hey, maybe
- 6:35they're going to have to, you know, buy this all on the spot
- 6:37market if they actually don't have all of that Bitcoin.
- 6:41So on the one hand, I would say it's definitely bullish.
- 6:45On the other, it's going to definitely show to us who is
- 6:50swimming naked, AKA. Anyways, Eric Balkun is, of
- 6:54course a senior ETF analyzer. Analysis analysts.
- 6:58Wow, it's early, analysts at Bloomberg says.
- 7:01Opti hasn't had enough coffee. Today I literally have not had
- 7:04enough caffeine. Today he's he tweets.
- 7:06That's my fault. Yeah, totally.
- 7:08Yeah. I I'm not going to say Eric
- 7:11Balkunis tweets an issuer just wrote me quote.
- 7:15This is huge and will create explosion of option based
- 7:18Bitcoin ETFs again. Sounds like more paper Bitcoin
- 7:24again. The the headline story is the
- 7:28paper Bitcoin attack is over because now they actually have
- 7:31to buy the Bitcoin again. Real Bitcoin going in, real
- 7:34Bitcoin going out. It's basically how the gold ETFs
- 7:38have been handled historically. So it's on the one hand it's
- 7:42super game changing for what's going on.
- 7:44This is one of the big caveats. Yeah, literally, Buck 50 says
- 7:49it. I'm pretty sure no one has any
- 7:51idea what's going to happen by the end of the year.
- 7:53So the main take from most Bitcoiners is this is good, you
- 7:57know, more clarity. Now they're actually having to
- 7:59buy this Bitcoin. They don't have to do this
- 8:01financial engineering of cash redemptions.
- 8:04But let's kind of break this down.
- 8:07The more bullish take on in kind redemptions is that they don't
- 8:12have to or they're not required anymore to sell that Bitcoin on
- 8:15the market. And this is key.
- 8:16So before they basically got to sell that Bitcoin and then they
- 8:20pay out their investors in cash. Now they basically just buy the
- 8:24Bitcoin. They don't have to actually have
- 8:26a sell transaction on to the market, which is super bullish,
- 8:30kind of minimizes the sell pressure here.
- 8:32And then further, if these ETFs still maintain the attention
- 8:37that they they have currently again, they scooped up 1.2,
- 8:40almost 1.3 million Bitcoin, then that just proves that the market
- 8:45has confidence in Bitcoin. That shows the demand for actual
- 8:48Bitcoin is strong, which is obviously a super bullish signal
- 8:52coming from Tradfy here. Now the more con view of this,
- 8:56again you can kind of view this two sides of the same coin is a
- 9:00cash redemption. And if a fund has to sell this
- 9:03Bitcoin for Fiat to refill their redemption, then of course that
- 9:07would increase the cell pressure.
- 9:09Now we've seen this play out currently where I don't know if
- 9:12it would increase per SE, but we've already kind of seen these
- 9:15mechanics play out. But if they did do large in kind
- 9:19redemptions, then there would be immediate dumping, which is
- 9:22maybe what we're seeing on the market today.
- 9:25So that could that could maybe explain it.
- 9:27No, but it would only be dumping on their own hedge fund.
- 9:30It wouldn't be dumping on the market.
- 9:31People would just take Bitcoin into self custody, right?
- 9:35Am I understanding that right? Let's see.
- 9:38If they're if they're going to be paying in kind redemption,
- 9:42right? Like so if I buy an ETF on
- 9:45whatever fund and then I want that I want to cash that Bitcoin
- 9:51in, wouldn't they just have to like send it from their wallet
- 9:55to my wallet? I don't think that's how they
- 9:57work so. Oh, so then what?
- 9:59Like what is that then? I don't understand anything
- 10:01we've been talking about. It's the.
- 10:03ETF issuers, The authorized participants actually hold that
- 10:07Bitcoin. I don't think there's any self
- 10:08custody quote in these ETFs. Damn I was going to say I would
- 10:12pay anything to watch these boomers figure out how to do
- 10:15self custody. Like could you imagine that with
- 10:18their cold card? Just like.
- 10:19No, this is This is why they put their their exposure in the
- 10:26ETFs. The when someone asked when does
- 10:28the in kind redemption start? It's it's it just got approved.
- 10:32So it seems like it's happening now, which could explain for the
- 10:36price kind of movement we saw here.
- 10:38So again, the income redemptions do protect Bitcoin from cell
- 10:42pressure caused by the ETF outflows.
- 10:45And of course, they seemingly at least this is the theory, keep
- 10:47the supply shock intact by avoiding liquidation.
- 10:50And actually here it actually does say this and empowers
- 10:54holders to take custody. So, you know, from our
- 10:56perspective, a feature, not a bug, decentralizes the supply,
- 11:00promote some money ownership. So I guess you're right.
- 11:03I guess you're right. And of course this this is kind
- 11:08of their view. This is of course the, the main
- 11:10movement, or rather the the main narrative we're hearing from the
- 11:14Trump administration and also Gary Genzer from the SEC from
- 11:18the past, and of course what we're seeing now that this would
- 11:21protect investors more and create a more dynamic market.
- 11:25So. Wouldn't this also, just like, I
- 11:27mean, would this turn these hedge funds into kind of an
- 11:31exchange themselves? Would they essentially like act
- 11:35kind of like for example, Coinbase where, you know, they
- 11:39take custody of this Bitcoin and you say, OK, I want to, I want
- 11:42to cash it and they send it to your like account.
- 11:45And then could you take it into self custody if you wanted to?
- 11:49I mean, I have a lot more questions about this as a
- 11:51Bitcoiner than I do as an investor.
- 11:54As an investor, I mean, really as a as a hedge fund manager,
- 11:58like this is great because it legitimizes the hedge fund and
- 12:03it's a win win because, well, I mean, the ones who are lying
- 12:06like they're going to be exposed and the ones who have been
- 12:08stacking Bitcoin are going to be rewarded for telling the truth.
- 12:13But I, I just have a lot more questions as a bitcoiner because
- 12:17like the what does this mean for self custody, which I think is
- 12:21essentially like the most important part of all of this.
- 12:24Like it what, what is gonna gonna separate them aside from
- 12:28like them holding Bitcoin and not being able to like lie about
- 12:32their paper Bitcoin and, you know, number go up and
- 12:35everything that we love to talk about.
- 12:37What what is what does that mean for self custody?
- 12:40And what does that mean for people who are actually buying
- 12:42this? Yeah, I think that would be the
- 12:44ideal case. And so we haven't really seen
- 12:49any of these ETF issuers and I think that's where we will or
- 12:52the authorized participants kind of explain what their strategy
- 12:57would be here. But ideally that would be the
- 13:00case where the ETF issuer can redeem that Bitcoin directly
- 13:04versus just settling in cash. So now we have the approval from
- 13:09the SEC and then I'm pretty sure it's going to be upon every one
- 13:12of these ETF issuers to kind of pick and choose which product
- 13:16they want to do or how they want to handle their product.
- 13:18So I think this is from if you are a boomer out there and I'm
- 13:23I'm only kind of trolling on the boomers.
- 13:26If you are. We love to rag on the yeah yeah
- 13:28yeah. They deserve to be ragged on
- 13:30just a little bit. And if you are an ETF buyer,
- 13:35then I would pressure whoever is the person or the company that
- 13:39is buying those ETS for you, whichever product you're using.
- 13:43This is exactly what I would stress that hey, I want to
- 13:46actually receive this Bitcoin. I really don't think that these,
- 13:49you know, brokerage houses have the infrastructure yet probably
- 13:52to actually give you or deliver that Bitcoin directly.
- 13:56But this is the ideal case, like you said, that people would
- 13:59actually take Bitcoin into custody.
- 14:01As of now, the law has been approved.
- 14:04The SEC has opened up the floodgates and it would on one
- 14:08hand maybe explain why the price of Bitcoin is what it's doing
- 14:12today. Everyone, everyone in the chats,
- 14:14like another day in Bitcoin, another dumping day of Bitcoin.
- 14:19I was promised 150K. It's crazy because the people
- 14:22who are you, you'd expect the people who are dumping to be
- 14:26these day traders, but like, you know, it'd be your own people,
- 14:29bro. It'd be these like OG Maxis who
- 14:32have been holding onto Bitcoin for forever.
- 14:34And hey, I don't blame them. I can't blame them.
- 14:36I can't blame them. I do the same thing.
- 14:38Let's be honest here, but. All right, there's actually.
- 14:40Some some good questions in here.
- 14:42So zero to 1 says in kind would trigger a taxable event.
- 14:47No, it kind of depends it from what I'm reading here on the SEC
- 14:54press release, they're not actually selling the Bitcoin.
- 14:58So I think that's kind of in a Gray area, which does kind of
- 15:02lead us into what we're potentially going to hear coming
- 15:05out of the crypto report, which we'll talk about in about 20
- 15:07minutes. And then we had another question
- 15:09in here. Let's see.
- 15:14Paper Bitcoin is an attack on Bitcoin.
- 15:16Yes bro that's done. Thanks for pointing out the
- 15:18obvious. Someone said I can't find is
- 15:22this only David said? Is this for only the UTF ETFs at
- 15:25yes, this is from the US government.
- 15:28This from the US SEC, but we have seen that in Europe a lot
- 15:33of the ETF or ETP issuers are already kind of doing in kind
- 15:36redemptions. And so again, being that America
- 15:41is, you know, you could you guys could argue this or.
- 15:44Or. You can kind of this is our take
- 15:47here. It's like US is essentially the
- 15:49leader in finance and arguably in culture here.
- 15:52So what the US does, others will follow soon.
- 15:55And if the US does it, it's kind of like if you're offering a
- 15:58better product to the market, then everyone's gonna follow
- 16:01soon. So ideally we see more people,
- 16:04more countries, more companies follow this in kind redemptions.
- 16:08There are already some in kind redemptions in different.
- 16:11Parts of the world. But as of now, the USI think
- 16:14they're the biggest market of this.
- 16:15So this is huge. I think everyone else will
- 16:18follow this. Of course, we are self custody
- 16:20maxi since hence selfies questions of like are they
- 16:23actually going to custody this Bitcoin?
- 16:24We want people to hold actual Bitcoin, but I think this is a
- 16:28good first step towards that. Now we will see how this is kind
- 16:31of actualize how they will actually do this in practice.
- 16:36But now we don't have the SEC fighting us.
- 16:39So there's a lot of things going on here.
- 16:41You know, the US is on the basically within 24 hours going
- 16:45to announce what they're doing with either the strategic
- 16:48Bitcoin Reserve, what they're doing with their regulatory
- 16:51framework in the US. Again, this was part of the
- 16:54executive order from Trump about America embracing Bitcoin and
- 16:59they gave it 180 day delay to do the report.
- 17:03They got it in, I believe it was last week, the 22nd and they are
- 17:07going to talk about it later today at 2:30.
- 17:11So we don't have anything conclusive on what they're going
- 17:14to say. They were actually going to do a
- 17:16press conference about it. So.
- 17:19I'll kind of give you in the news kind of the the rumors, the
- 17:23speculations of what's going to go into it.
- 17:25And then tomorrow, I'm sure we'll probably break down
- 17:28exactly what came out of that. I'm sure we'll get some clips
- 17:31here. Let me see.
- 17:32There was one more comment in here.
- 17:34If I can't find it, we'll just keep it moving.
- 17:38Keep it moving. But yeah, OK, I can't find it.
- 17:41I can't. Jonathan Deala.
- 17:43OK, this is a new question, but why not just buy BTC directly
- 17:48then? Yeah, we know that's.
- 17:50That's the big question. And, and again, I keep saying
- 17:53this and I keep stressing this, but I, I guess I don't say it
- 17:56enough on the show. You got to remember from an
- 17:59individual perspective, if you just have cash on the side, then
- 18:03of course buy Bitcoin directly. That's like the easiest thing to
- 18:07be doing, But when you have a lot of capital that is locked up
- 18:11in traditional finance instruments, there is a lot of
- 18:14rules in red tape that you can't actually get your money into
- 18:18Bitcoin. Yes, you maybe you want you
- 18:19could sell it and take a penalty on whatever your investment or
- 18:23portfolio holds, but a lot of people don't want to do that.
- 18:27And so a lot of these various different instruments, Bitcoin
- 18:30exposure products on Tradfi are so people don't get, you know,
- 18:35have to sell their products. They can kind of just roll it
- 18:37over into a Bitcoin ET Yeah, again, I think the metric is 97%
- 18:41of capital around the world is basically locked up in these
- 18:46different credit instruments and they can't actually get it into
- 18:49Bitcoin. So there is a product market
- 18:52need here. But for us, it's like, bro, just
- 18:54buy Bitcoin. I I'm sure none of us have a
- 18:56four O 1K anyways. If you did, you probably cashed
- 18:59it out 'cause you're a true believer in Bitcoin, you know,
- 19:02like the rest of us. That penalty, yeah, exactly,
- 19:05100%. I think, yeah, the the more
- 19:10people are exposed to like at least feeling like they're
- 19:14buying Bitcoin, the closer they're going to be to even
- 19:18thinking about taking self custody and buying actual
- 19:21Bitcoin. Because once they realize that
- 19:24they are completely cooked by these banks and the institutions
- 19:28and their retirement funds, they're going to say, hey, wait
- 19:32a minute, that doesn't happen with Bitcoin.
- 19:34That doesn't happen when I take my Bitcoin into self custody.
- 19:38So, you know, they're getting their feet wet.
- 19:42And this is just another another necessary evil that has to
- 19:47happen for for hyper bitcoinization to get to take
- 19:51hold. Yo, Chad, you guys are going
- 19:54crazy today. But you actually reminded me of
- 19:56a tweet that I saw of Will Reeves, of course from Fold and
- 20:00he basically double s down on this idea and he goes.
- 20:04Bitcoin lending is coming to every person in the US through
- 20:07their brokerage account as a margin loan backed by Bitcoin.
- 20:12It's all bullish for Bitcoin at this point and where this is
- 20:14what winning looks like. As much as we get fought by
- 20:17everyone and it and as much as I have my buddy in the chat who's
- 20:20a doomer and a bear and you guys should throw tomatoes at him,
- 20:24everything is aligning perfectly for more Bitcoin adoption, for
- 20:30more liquidity going into Bitcoin.
- 20:32And we really are, it really is kind of playing out in like this
- 20:35step, stepwise function where like 1, you know, one step is
- 20:40laid and then we kind of the market adjusts to it, kind of,
- 20:44you know, digest it and then the next one is laid.
- 20:47And I think pretty soon we're going to be looking back and be
- 20:49like 2025. Was a super bullish year.
- 20:51Even though Nico's been a bear out there and he's like, it's
- 20:54me. Yes, it is you.
- 20:55It is you. I'm.
- 20:56I'm totally totally putting. You on the spot.
- 21:00I think we're going to look back at 2025 and it really is going
- 21:04to be that defining moment where like Bitcoin entered into the
- 21:08mainstream consciousness. It it almost will be like a pre
- 21:112025 after a after the date of 2025 moment.
- 21:16I'm not going full Kaiser here. I'm not I'm not blaspheming here
- 21:18about Bitcoin. I'm just saying this will be one
- 21:21of those defining. Dates.
- 21:22It's like they say, gradually, then suddenly.
- 21:25Right now we're in the gradually stage.
- 21:27By the end of the year, who knows, We might suddenly be in
- 21:30the moon. Let's hope.
- 21:32Yeah, I believe, OK. I believe I have strong I.
- 21:36Really want to believe. I really want to believe.
- 21:38I'm believing I'm. No, I'm a believer.
- 21:40It's guys again, we've been talking about it like what do
- 21:43you, what do you, what else are you going to go back like as we
- 21:46kind of Chris and I? Already all in, yeah.
- 21:49As Chris and I were kind of arguing yesterday, it's like if
- 21:52you think Bitcoin is being Co opted, what are you going to do
- 21:56go back to the dollar like Bitcoin is still the best
- 21:58system. So we are all true believers.
- 22:00We have already won yes yes, this is the way all right guys,
- 22:05we have a jam packed show. There is a great Jack maulers
- 22:08clip. He actually he did a whole
- 22:10Bloomberg interview. I believe it was like 30 minutes
- 22:12and he absolutely slayed it and Bloomberg TV clipped it put it
- 22:17on Twitter. So we're going to watch that
- 22:18clip. There is some some great signal
- 22:21in it and then I'm going to give you kind of a.
- 22:24I guess a rough. Speculation or you know where we
- 22:27are right now of what's going on with this crypto reserve report
- 22:32or rather crypto report coming out of the working crypto group
- 22:35that is going to be dropped in about 2 1/2 hours and then so we
- 22:41really don't know what's going on there.
- 22:43There is some interesting rumors coming out of it.
- 22:46This might be a full chud nothing ever happens moment.
- 22:49So, you know, don't don't smash by your whole dry powder right
- 22:53now thinking it's going to pump. It could be a dumping, it could
- 22:58be a dumping moment. But yeah, we'll cover that.
- 23:01And then Kaiser really, really going further on the supply
- 23:06shock. And I'm sure you've heard this,
- 23:08but it really is starting to accelerate and it's getting kind
- 23:12of crazy out there. So we're going to talk.
- 23:13About all that today. And of course, before we go on,
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- 26:52OK guys, we're over here on. Clark.
- 26:54Moody's dashboard get fired. This is.
- 26:57This is for the. Record that I can't get fired,
- 26:59OK. See, This is why I.
- 27:01This is why I love you guys this.
- 27:02Is why Opti loves handling the chat because I can pull whatever
- 27:06I want on the show and Nico doesn't even know.
- 27:08Anyways, we are on Clark Moody's dashboard and the current
- 27:12Bitcoin price is $117,900 and actually.
- 27:17This reminds me. Of a tweet I saw this morning
- 27:20from psychedelic Bart and he's like 2.
- 27:22So everyone complaining about the price, guys like get over
- 27:24yourselves. We're at $117,000 Bitcoin right
- 27:28now and everyone's freaking out. We're at a decline from all time
- 27:31high of -4.1% and we are all getting tired here.
- 27:36I, I know we're, we're tired of 120 K.
- 27:39It's like we we were tired of 100K an hour after it happened.
- 27:43Now we're tired of 120 K 30. What's it three months after it
- 27:47happened? We've been going sideways for a
- 27:49while consolidating, but I feel it in my plums that it's going
- 27:53to RIP soon. Guys, it's got to RIP soon.
- 27:57It's actually it's going to do something.
- 27:59It's either going to RIP or you get a discount.
- 28:01I think it's going to RIP though.
- 28:02Anyways, the block height is 907,838.
- 28:05The current market cap and Fiat terms is $2.35 trillion and we
- 28:09have secured the 10% of the gold market cap.
- 28:13There's still 90% to go until we take over gold's 22 ish trillion
- 28:19dollar market cap. So a lot of room.
- 28:22To run. Anyways, as I was telling you,
- 28:25Jack Maulers did a great interview with Bloomberg.
- 28:29They did a whole 30 minute interview.
- 28:32Highly recommend you go watch the whole thing, even Nico.
- 28:35Earlier was like, yeah dude, he freaking killed it.
- 28:37Like it's a great interview, but I got a little clip from it now.
- 28:42The first part they are kind of asking him about what 21
- 28:45Capitals goals are, but the. Second part is kind of what I've
- 28:49been saying on the show, excuse me, for weeks now when we have
- 28:53Luke on and he's talking about Bitcoin, you know, leaving from
- 28:56exchanges and supply shock happening.
- 28:58Look, I do. Believe in the mother of all
- 29:00supply Shock is going to happen at some point, but I'm not
- 29:03completely sold on the exchange metrics because of the very
- 29:07thing that Jack Mahler says on this clip.
- 29:10And it also really goes into how few people really understand
- 29:16what a hard capped money really means, what a hard capped asset
- 29:21really means. The importance of the 21,000,000
- 29:24total supply of Bitcoin. And in a way that only Jack
- 29:27Mahler's can, he could just get you even more bullish.
- 29:30So let's play that real quick. What's the end game for you?
- 29:33Is it just to buy as much Bitcoin as you can and hold it
- 29:36for as long as possible and never sell it?
- 29:39That's one of the goals, yes. But I think what makes us
- 29:42different than a lot of these other businesses is we plan to
- 29:45build Bitcoin products as well. I mean, the founding group is
- 29:48Tethering. Myself, I founded in lead Strike
- 29:51is one of the bigger Bitcoin financial services firms in the
- 29:53world. Tether obviously is one of the
- 29:55most impressive companies in the history of humanity, but
- 29:57specifically in building massive cash flows within the space.
- 30:00So Paulo and I, before we were CEO's, we were engineers, we
- 30:04built a lot of products. And so we plan to not only
- 30:06acquire as much Bitcoin as possible, raising capital and
- 30:09all sorts of deep capital pools, but also build products, build
- 30:12technology, build tools. I think when people eventually
- 30:15think of 21, it's are they a competitor to Coinbase, Are they
- 30:18competitor to strategy for us? Why not both?
- 30:20We think we have that potential. Do you envision a future where
- 30:24Bitcoin treasury companies such as Strategy, Mara and You guys
- 30:29end up buying so much Bitcoin that there really isn't actually
- 30:33much left out there on the open market for people to trade?
- 30:36After all, it is a fixed number of bitcoins, so no more will be
- 30:41created once it reaches that number.
- 30:43Right. You know what's fascinating
- 30:45about the asset, and it's not intuitive because it's so rare,
- 30:47is that to your point, it is definitively scarce.
- 30:51So if everyone in the world wanted an iPhone, Apple could
- 30:54make more. If everyone in the world wanted
- 30:56a McDonald's cheeseburger, McDonald's could make more.
- 30:59The fact that Bitcoin cannot increase its supply means the
- 31:03new supply comes from the market.
- 31:04If you want more Bitcoin, you don't go to the Bitcoin factory
- 31:07to get one. You have to go up in price.
- 31:10Is there enough Bitcoin for me at 120,000?
- 31:12No, OK130140150. So I tell you what, there's
- 31:15always Bitcoin available, just depends on what you're willing
- 31:18to pay for it. And So what I think will happen
- 31:20is this price will continue to discover higher because Bitcoin
- 31:24is the scarcest thing. It's inelastic to the amount of
- 31:27demand that searches for it. So the amount of buying power
- 31:30that we're seeing from the capital markets, from the ETFs
- 31:33and potentially from nation states like the United States, I
- 31:36think they'll find the supply they're looking for.
- 31:38They're just going to have to go get it at a high.
- 31:41And that is the signal there. That is what we constantly tell
- 31:45people. And that's even the debate that
- 31:46Luke and I have been having on the show.
- 31:48He's like, look, if you look at the actually here, let me pull
- 31:50that up. Let me see if I can find that
- 31:52real quick. If you look at the Bitcoin on
- 31:55exchanges, actually I think it's on bit bow.
- 31:59It does look like there is a lot of Bitcoin leaving the
- 32:04exchanges. Is it on here?
- 32:06Oh, no, I think it's on coin glass.
- 32:07Sorry guys, I should have had this set up but I like Jack was
- 32:14saying the thing that really makes me counter this.
- 32:17This whole narrative right now of Bitcoin on exchanges is going
- 32:22down. So like the mother of all supply
- 32:28shocks is coming. What's what Jack Mueller says?
- 32:32And again, maybe it's just 'cause I have such a low IQ that
- 32:35I simplify everything here and I and I try to make it as simple
- 32:38as possible. Is, is very simple.
- 32:42Like yes, it looks like the Bitcoin on exchanges has been
- 32:46constantly been dwindling. As of now, we are currently at
- 32:49what is this, the 2.13 million Bitcoin on exchanges and this is
- 32:55all the big exchanges and we had a peak of 2.81 million last
- 33:01year, the beginning of last year.
- 33:03Then it does look like Bitcoin is starting to leave the
- 33:08exchanges, whether that's the corporate treasuries, the ETFs,
- 33:11the institutions, the nation states buying Bitcoin.
- 33:15They would be on the open market obviously.
- 33:17And I, I don't know if this one has the, no, this doesn't have
- 33:20OTC desk, but we're seeing a very similar phenomenon happen
- 33:23over the counter where people are buying them, you know, not
- 33:27on the spot market. The point that I always say is
- 33:30like, there will always be Bitcoin to be bought at any
- 33:33price. You just have to incentivize
- 33:34bitcoiners to sell it. Now, if you're in the audience,
- 33:37you probably have your own price in your head and you're like,
- 33:40I'm not selling my Bitcoin for $120,000.
- 33:44Or maybe you're like, I'm not ever selling my Bitcoin for any
- 33:48price. Maybe you're on the sailor train
- 33:50and you're like, I'm going to, you know, get pass away with my
- 33:54Bitcoin because I want to donate this to the the rest of all the
- 34:00Bitcoin holders. I just think there will always
- 34:02be a price. Now, this is just how the
- 34:04Bitcoin market works. And you kind of see this
- 34:06happening with like limit orders and spoofs and like longs and
- 34:11liquidations. You'll see price points on the
- 34:14heat map where you see either people are willing to buy and
- 34:17then where they're going to sell a big chunk of coin.
- 34:20And that's where you'll see, like, more Bitcoin will hit the
- 34:23exchanges eventually, just at a higher price.
- 34:26And it's funny to see the Bloomberg TV analyst who's like
- 34:30a financial analyst here. You could argue he's probably a
- 34:33Keynesian, too. He's sitting here like, wait,
- 34:36does this mean there will never be any Bitcoin for anyone to
- 34:39buy? You're like, well, you know,
- 34:42that was not necessarily but. That was actually my favorite
- 34:45part. I was like, I love it when
- 34:47Mahler's explains Bitcoin to like people who just don't get
- 34:51it or are starting to get it, you know, that's that.
- 34:54Like, that just indicates how early we still are and like how
- 34:58we're still in the phase of like, oh, there's only 21
- 35:02million that are ever going to be made.
- 35:04And so, you know, when people realize how scarce this is, that
- 35:08this is more scarce than gold and, you know, all the other
- 35:11things that they used to value in this life, I think that's
- 35:15when we're really going to start to see the price pump.
- 35:18But who knows? I don't know.
- 35:19I'm not a fortune teller, but it just it kind of like goes with
- 35:23the logic, right? Yeah, no, 100%.
- 35:29Hold on. We have.
- 35:31Someone's going wild in the chat.
- 35:34Oh. Don't get us banned, chat.
- 35:37Hey that that's them on the chat their.
- 35:39Their comment won't go through because YouTube has filters
- 35:43there. So we we have, we have.
- 35:45Yeah, we have nothing to do with that.
- 35:46Sorry, I'm a little sidetracked. What what what?
- 35:49Can you sum up what you just said again?
- 35:52Sorry, not go up, there's like only a fixed amount and.
- 35:58And. Also, yeah, and also, well, in
- 36:00general, dude, like there's like, isn't it like 95 or 96% of
- 36:05the Bitcoin ever in existence has already been mined?
- 36:09Yeah, yeah. Let me, let me go back here.
- 36:11We'll look at it 94.75%. There you go.
- 36:15Like it's every day there is less and less Bitcoin.
- 36:18I went up, I didn't pull. It.
- 36:20Up everyday there's less and less Bitcoin and while we see
- 36:24that some people like the Ogs, yeah, you see them selling like
- 36:27an absurd amount of Bitcoin because we're watching it from
- 36:29our perspective, right? We're like, damn, 80,000 Bitcoin
- 36:33is like an insane amount of Bitcoin.
- 36:36But I think that eventually, you know, like people, people are
- 36:41going to buy that up. Like especially these huge
- 36:43institutions, they're going to buy it up.
- 36:46Yeah, sorry guys. It's I hope you're not hearing
- 36:49this. That rumble back end is blowing
- 36:52up. But yeah, I think, I think what
- 36:55we're going to see here very soon is this exact phenomenon
- 36:58playing out. Where there, I think a lot of
- 37:02the sellers will eventually get exhausted at this point and
- 37:05they're not going to want to sell their Bitcoin.
- 37:06Now everyone out here is probably not one to sell their
- 37:09Bitcoin. I'm sure.
- 37:10Look, as much as we don't like to talk about Fiat prices, and
- 37:14we get a lot of blowback because we measure Bitcoin in Fiat, it's
- 37:17like, what else? Are we going to measure it and.
- 37:19Do it like jars of mayonnaise or something, Like what are we
- 37:22talking about here? I think everyone kind of has a
- 37:25price point in their head where. They will feel.
- 37:27Comfortable in regards to their Bitcoin holdings and you could
- 37:31think of that as like that's the price that you're willing to
- 37:33sell that Bitcoin. Now, whether you will sell it,
- 37:35whether you're going to be able to just exchange your Bitcoin
- 37:38for goods at that point, it's probably a totally different
- 37:41conversation if this is going to be 5-10 years down the line, but
- 37:45there will always be Bitcoin at any price.
- 37:47It would always hit the exchanges.
- 37:49There's, you know, like we said, there's O GS, that body, that
- 37:51freaking pennies, there's O GS that hold it, held it without it
- 37:54even being a price and now they're like look 120K per coin.
- 37:58That sounds reasonable to me. And if you watch Simply Bitcoin
- 38:01and you know how much Bitcoin to retire with, you'll realize that
- 38:04you won't have to sell it all. You can sell a little bit of it
- 38:07and then, you know, keep the rest of it so that you can
- 38:10actually have some generational wealth.
- 38:13Yeah, 100%. I I really don't believe that
- 38:16anyone that is a true Bitcoin believer will sell their whole
- 38:20bags. Oh hell no.
- 38:21That would be the dumbest thing ever.
- 38:23That's the thing. Like the further down the rabbit
- 38:25hole you go, the more you understand that selling your
- 38:29Bitcoin for what? Like, what are you going to buy
- 38:31it? What?
- 38:32What are you going to buy in exchange for it?
- 38:33You're going to buy real estate. I mean, maybe if.
- 38:36You want a house? Well, yeah, fine if you want a
- 38:38house that's perfectly normal, but you don't have to do what
- 38:41these boomers do, which is say like, uh, I'm a put my entire
- 38:45bag into five different rental properties and they're going to
- 38:48generate me income of it. Like, no dude, like now you
- 38:51literally don't have to do anything.
- 38:52You are the bank in the future. Like people who actually get
- 38:56into this and realize the power of Bitcoin and this scarcity
- 39:01model that we're talking about right now are going to realize
- 39:04like, hey, wait a minute, If there's not going to be enough
- 39:08Bitcoin for even, you know, huge institutions and governments to
- 39:12hang on to, that means that my Bitcoin in self custody is
- 39:17actually worth way more than what I think it's worth because
- 39:21they're going to want my Bitcoin to borrow money from like that.
- 39:26I think that's what the future of Bitcoin is going to
- 39:28ultimately lead to. Like you are going to become the
- 39:31the lenders. You are going to become the
- 39:33banks, not just for yourself, not just for your family, but
- 39:36also for the world at large, because there's not that many
- 39:40people who have Bitcoin in self custody.
- 39:42And that's just the truth. It's too complicated for some
- 39:45people, it's too inconvenient. But you know those that is going
- 39:49to be a reward that we see 10, maybe 20 years down the line
- 39:53when people start to realize is the impact that Bitcoin actually
- 39:59has on global markets and on the value of assets at large.
- 40:05Yeah, 100% and actually guys we got a, we got a new update here.
- 40:08So one Bitcoin I hope you did the math here is equal to 35,000
- 40:13jars of Mayo. So.
- 40:14I want to know how much that is in Boar's Head Chipotle Mayo,
- 40:18because that's my if you don't. Don't don't give them all the
- 40:23sauce here that just go get some but we did get a a good breaking
- 40:28update here. Shout out to Mark Hanna on
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- 40:34send real Bitcoin to your account or withdraw to your own
- 40:37cold storage free of charge starting over the next two
- 40:40months. So again, Fidelity is killing
- 40:43it. This is.
- 40:44Great, this is exactly what I was talking.
- 40:46And actually shout out to Fidelity for being ahead of the
- 40:49curve. Like, weren't they one of the
- 40:51first banks that actually started buying Bitcoin?
- 40:54Yeah, they've been in the Bitcoin space for a long time.
- 40:56Fidelity it again. If you are buying an ETF,
- 41:00Fidelity is the one that's the one you want to be buying.
- 41:02We will not endorse the Black Rock ETF here on the show by the
- 41:07Fidelity one. They're actually in #2 I think
- 41:09the number two position right now, if I remember correctly.
- 41:12I just looked at the chart yesterday.
- 41:15I I forget what I did yesterday every single day.
- 41:18So I'm pretty sure that's correct.
- 41:20You guys can Fact Check me. Anyways, let's let's move on and
- 41:24we will cover kind of the rumors of what we're hearing will come
- 41:27out of the crypto research report.
- 41:30That is been all the hype in the last couple of weeks.
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- 45:02Yes, Bitcoin bowl, I agree. I'm not going to bring that out,
- 45:05but I totally agree with what you said in the chat anyways.
- 45:10Anyway. Anyways, sorry, I thought, I
- 45:12thought I had this up here. All right, so we've been talking
- 45:15about this. This has been the huge kind of
- 45:17speculation of what's going on. Is this going to be good?
- 45:21Actually, most people are like, will this pump the price?
- 45:23You know, Trump promised US150K early in his presidency.
- 45:27He hasn't delivered on that promise yet, but he's, I guess,
- 45:32I guess we don't know what early in his presidency means yet.
- 45:35I, we were, well, I thought he meant like 3 months, six months,
- 45:38but maybe he means a year or two.
- 45:40So I don't know. I don't know.
- 45:42Anyways, we have Eleanor Terrett again.
- 45:44She is a former Fox Business analyst or journalist.
- 45:49Now she is working in the Bitcoin space for her own
- 45:53company, Crypto America. And she tweets out new White
- 45:58House set to unveil digital assets reports today.
- 46:01And then in her report, there is a lot of other stuff going on
- 46:04that I think we will cover tomorrow.
- 46:07But I definitely want to kind of lay the ground where I think
- 46:11maybe set expectations of what we're going on here.
- 46:13A lot of people there, there was actually a lot of kind of rumors
- 46:16going around this morning. Some people were saying that the
- 46:20crypto asset digital report doesn't even mention Bitcoin at
- 46:24all. I don't, I wasn't able to verify
- 46:27this. I saw some kind of shit coin
- 46:28screenshots of Donald Trump tweeting about that.
- 46:31It's not even a Bitcoin reserve anymore.
- 46:33I think there's a lot of noise going on and we really won't
- 46:35know until later today, but there is some concrete stuff
- 46:39that we do know will be coming out later.
- 46:42First of all is literally this is going to be a press release
- 46:47in an hour pretty much right when the show wraps up.
- 46:50They're going to do a press conference about it.
- 46:52And I'm sure they haven't actually released.
- 46:54Maybe they released the report as we were live, but they have
- 46:57yet to release the report. Maybe it's going to be in
- 46:59parallel with the conference that they're doing.
- 47:02Anyways, what you'll read the White House crypto report lands.
- 47:07Alright. Anyways, one of the most
- 47:08anticipated pieces of crypto policy is set to drop later
- 47:11today when the White House releases it's long-awaited 180
- 47:15day report on digital assets. Senior administration officials
- 47:18are expected to attend a press event at the White House at 2:30
- 47:21PM Eastern Time, again an hour from now, where they will
- 47:24discuss the recommendations outlined in the report.
- 47:27And the report stems from the January executive order by Trump
- 47:31directing the president's working group on digital asset
- 47:33markets to, quote, strengthen US leadership in digital financial
- 47:36technology. What's being released this
- 47:39afternoon is the product of 6 months of work by the group led
- 47:42by White House crypto and AI czar David Sacks, Executive
- 47:45Director Bo Hinds and senior officials from Treasury
- 47:48Commerce, the SEC, the CF, FTC and other agencies and their
- 47:53mandate is to develop regulatory and legislative proposals that
- 47:58advance the Trump administration pro crypto agenda.
- 48:01Now This is why everyone's kind of saying this should be
- 48:03bullish, should be a bullish press conference, hopefully in
- 48:07regards to bullish in price terms, but it could just be
- 48:11bullish in terms of the long term effects for the Bitcoin
- 48:15industry. Now, despite widespread industry
- 48:17speculation about what the report might contain, there have
- 48:20perhaps surprisingly been no leaks from any of the
- 48:23participating departments or the White House offering clues as to
- 48:27what's inside. While the details remain tightly
- 48:31held, the group's original mandate including develop
- 48:33developing a federal framework for digital assets, particularly
- 48:37stable coins and effort. Congress has already completed
- 48:39with the passage of the Genius Act and exploring the
- 48:42feasibility of a national digital asset stockpile, which
- 48:46Trump formally established with his EO in March.
- 48:50Now there's speculation of what the report will recommend.
- 48:54Ways of fun? The SBR, again, the budget
- 48:57neutral mean we've been hearing around and we really don't know.
- 49:02I think a lot of people are hopeful about it and then going
- 49:05over the block, they kind of did another take on this.
- 49:08There was actually an interesting screenshot that I
- 49:10saw from coined desk this morning, But I, I didn't have
- 49:14the, the paywall and I and I, I, you know, I was able to get
- 49:18around it, but I can't put it on YouTube.
- 49:20So I have a screenshot for you guys, but I'll read the block
- 49:23first real quick. Crypto industry braces for
- 49:25incoming White House quote regulatory Bible on rules,
- 49:29Bitcoin reserve and taxes. So again, they are about to
- 49:34release this report in about an hour and then quote.
- 49:36I do think it's a big deal because this will dictate every
- 49:38rulemaking or guidance document that comes out over the next 3
- 49:421/2 years. And this is kind of the big, big
- 49:45idea here is whether this pumps the price today or not, what
- 49:49does come out of this. We will see whether this is
- 49:52laying the groundwork for very bullish stuff going into the
- 49:55future. This is kind of the initial will
- 49:58we actually be the Bitcoin superpower of the world?
- 50:00Will we get some very favorable regulations coming out or will
- 50:05it be kind of a nothing burger and probably do more damage than
- 50:09good? I'm kind of being a cynic here
- 50:11are. We going to print more money to
- 50:13buy Bitcoin. That's the only thing I.
- 50:15Well, it's, they're not going to print money.
- 50:17They're going to embrace stable coins to expand the money supply
- 50:21and pump bitcoins. It's a, it's a, it's a
- 50:23technicality here. So it will totally print more
- 50:27money. And then, of course, one more
- 50:29quote here. I'm hoping that this drives a
- 50:31lot of legislative efforts going forward and fills in those gaps
- 50:34in the near term just to give the industry the clarity of
- 50:36where they can and cannot act or operate.
- 50:38Now, if you're a Bitcoiner, this probably means like nothing to
- 50:42you. But from what we've heard since
- 50:45like 2017 from a lot of these shit coin promoters, a Coinbase
- 50:48in particular, is this idea like, hey, man, we don't have
- 50:52any regulatory clarity. There's no clear.
- 50:54Rules of the road. Here, you know, the SEC was very
- 50:58famously or infamously with under under Gary Gensler just
- 51:03doing like rules by enforcement. They basically just like get
- 51:08someone in trouble and be like, OK, these are the rules now and
- 51:11you're like, wait, what's going? On because with rules means
- 51:14definitions. They weren't.
- 51:17So good. This they aren't.
- 51:19No, they they weren't good. Oh well, no, they weren't
- 51:22anything at all 'cause there weren't any.
- 51:24Like we just had no idea, like you just said.
- 51:26It was the Wild West. But with these quote UN quote
- 51:30clarifications come definitions and that means, you know that I
- 51:35think that brings us essentially one step closer TLDR to saying
- 51:38that Bitcoin is currency and what happens when the US
- 51:44recognizes Bitcoin as currency? Yeah.
- 51:49Well. Good.
- 51:51All right, good. Segue so, so again, one more
- 51:54quote here from the block article.
- 51:57The, you know, again, nothing's been set in stone in regards to
- 52:00what is going to come out or what they are doing.
- 52:03I think today will be that defining moment.
- 52:06But there has been a lot of speculation going around right
- 52:09now to one of the main things that, as Soph just said, I think
- 52:13a lot of us are really interested in and it's that tax
- 52:16clarity is kind of the number one priority amongst all of us.
- 52:20Just to be clear, I don't think that's happening today.
- 52:22I I kind of agree. I.
- 52:23Giving it a definition will make it one step closer because you
- 52:27can change definitions. Definitions change, as we've as
- 52:30we've realized in this new modern world.
- 52:33Yeah, yeah. What's a doublespeak in real
- 52:36time anyways? Quote, I really think that needs
- 52:38to be tax clarity needs to be one of the most foundational
- 52:41portions of this report and where Washington leads in now I
- 52:45we don't know if we will see that, but pulling up this
- 52:49headline here. Actually, it was a screenshot
- 52:52from the Coindesk article. It was behind a paywall.
- 52:57Again, there's there's rules here on YouTube that I can't
- 53:00actually share this with you from my own browser, but we did
- 53:04get a screenshot coming out of Bitcoin news, which I think is
- 53:08the most interesting part about this.
- 53:10Like Sophie said, I don't think this is gonna happen today, but
- 53:13this is what Coindesk is reporting.
- 53:15Again, Eleanor was saying there hasn't been any leaks.
- 53:18So there's been a lot of speculation of what is going on.
- 53:21Again, people were saying, oh, Bitcoin wasn't even said in this
- 53:25whole digital report at all. Again, no leaks.
- 53:28We really have no clue. But Coindesk reported this this
- 53:31morning when it comes to taxation of crypto, the working
- 53:34group recommends that treasury and the IRS review previously
- 53:37issued guidance on the tax treatment of activities like
- 53:40mining and staking. And there's also a call for
- 53:42guidance on corporate alternative minimum tax, CAMT
- 53:46and de minimis receipts of digital assets, which would make
- 53:49it much easier to use crypto for payments.
- 53:51Now, of course, we have seen. Translation.
- 53:55Translation what? It basically means that you can
- 53:58use up to a certain limit to buy and sell without getting hit
- 54:03with a capital gains tax. So Senator Lummus has been kind
- 54:07of pushing in recent weeks this idea of like AI think, I think
- 54:11it got all moved all the way down to like 200 dollars, $200
- 54:14de minimis tax. So you can basically buy
- 54:16anything under $200.00 but with a $5000 limit for the whole
- 54:20year. So you really can't buy much.
- 54:23They would they also. Buy house with.
- 54:25That, yeah, you can't even buy rent.
- 54:26Can't. Pay rent with that.
- 54:27They, they or you can't even use that for rent I.
- 54:31Think that covers like most people's grocery?
- 54:33No, it's literally she literally said so you can doing with.
- 54:36That she said. So you can buy.
- 54:37Coffee so maybe it's a jab at you know the B cashiers out
- 54:41there but whatever we we want to see something better than that
- 54:44personally. But we'll see if this comes out
- 54:47later again in one hour. But there was an interesting
- 54:51take here from Caitlin long that I I got to bring it up.
- 54:54You guys yell at me about memes all the time, but you know,
- 54:57Caitlin Long dunking here. So quote, tweeting this tweet by
- 55:01Eleanor. Caitlin long goes hilarious.
- 55:03Trump scheduled this pro crypto announcement at the White House
- 55:07at the exact same time as Jay Powell's post FOMC press
- 55:11conference trolling Powell. Gee, I wonder what the
- 55:14president's working groups report will say about the Fed's
- 55:16role in all the hashtag D banking.
- 55:20So hey, some key fabs going on here, you know, some
- 55:26entertainment factor going on. I'm kind of leaning on the
- 55:31nothing ever happened side here. I'm, I don't know, maybe I'm
- 55:36just so burnt out from politics and not trusting the politicians
- 55:41that I just, I'm, I'm starting to think this is all going to be
- 55:44worse for us than better. I do like the narratives around
- 55:48it. It does.
- 55:49I just like that people are starting to care about Bitcoin
- 55:52like that at least we're at least they are talking about it.
- 55:55Whereas the cycle before, you know, they they still thought
- 55:59that this was like pirate money. Yeah, Jet Ski should be the
- 56:03threat. They should.
- 56:03Totally be the threat like yo they should make it like
- 56:09$100,000 minimum that would be like a decent.
- 56:14Well, it that would have historical context.
- 56:17Remember when they did the $10,000 Fiat kind of cash limit
- 56:21at the time I think it was like $700,000 or something like that.
- 56:26So like there is historical precedent here.
- 56:29If we are going to do inflation adjusted numbers, like if they
- 56:33did that, that's cool. Like that's that's golden
- 56:37ticket. We are off to the races.
- 56:39Bitcoin is literally never looking back.
- 56:41We just literally won landlords. Would start accepting Bitcoin.
- 56:46Yeah, literally, like we'd be able to live on our Bitcoin and
- 56:50that would I that, in my opinion, that's what would make
- 56:53the US the Bitcoin superpower of the world.
- 56:55Now, we have seen this play out in various jurisdictions, a
- 56:59couple jurisdictions around the world.
- 57:01So there's still hope. Maybe it's a non zero chance and
- 57:04it's a slim chance of hope here, but you know, maybe we'll get
- 57:07there. We'll get there.
- 57:08Forward we are all crawling towards.
- 57:11Centimeter. Forward Great American Bitcoin
- 57:14dreams. Centimeters.
- 57:16Forward and we're a little bit closer than we were before.
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- 57:36Nico's not gonna fire me. On a rumble dude.
- 57:39Also definitely Nico's wife. Look at this she she's already
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- 57:55culture because I think if you connect the ETF in kind,
- 57:59redemption news, which is potentially bullish for buying
- 58:04real Bitcoin. With this take from Max Keiser,
- 58:07who's been literally screaming this from the rooftops for a
- 58:10while, maybe we are setting up for the mother of all supply
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- 1:00:15freedom. OK, first of all, thank you so
- 1:00:23much super chat. Sophie is a great singer.
- 1:00:27Can confirm. But hold on, he followed this up
- 1:00:30Sophie and I was going to say Ron P single handedly funding my
- 1:00:34coffee addiction, but he is single handedly funding Sophie's
- 1:00:39boar's Head Chipotle Mayo addiction.
- 1:00:42It's delicious. Highly recommended.
- 1:00:44I don't know, It's probably not seed oil free, but like, you
- 1:00:47know, live a little, live a little it's.
- 1:00:49Really not seed oil free but I'm not going to get.
- 1:00:53Started. It's so good, guys.
- 1:00:55Honestly so good we put it on everything.
- 1:00:57Like literally, you know, we, we do our best to give you guys the
- 1:01:01whole culture is going to be about boar's head Chipotle Mayo.
- 1:01:04No, I'm trolling. Please sponsor us, dude.
- 1:01:06That'd be great that. 'D.
- 1:01:08Be sick. We, you know, we do our best to
- 1:01:10give you guys. Yeah, wow.
- 1:01:12We do our best to ensure that we are promoting healthy topics
- 1:01:16here. You know, the some good signal
- 1:01:19and information. But you know, if you want to
- 1:01:22live a little bit, get yourself some boys head mail.
- 1:01:25Anyways, that's not what we're going to be talking about.
- 1:01:26OK, That we just went on a 2 minute tangent about Mayo,
- 1:01:30Chipotle, Mayo again. Actually, I'm not going to plug
- 1:01:33them. Nico's going to get mad because
- 1:01:34they don't sponsor us anyways. There's also Sir Kensington.
- 1:01:39Just so chill, stop plugging stuff for free.
- 1:01:43I'm pitting them against each other.
- 1:01:44They need to fight to the death to sponsor.
- 1:01:47OK, OK, enough Chipotle mail. So you guys have probably been
- 1:01:52seeing or maybe you have it, maybe you're not on Twitter,
- 1:01:55maybe you're not chronically online like Sophie and I are.
- 1:01:58Yeah, we, we joke about that all the time Anyways, but Sailor
- 1:02:01came out again yesterday and he did a huge, another huge buy in
- 1:02:07Bitcoin. So they bought 21,000 Bitcoin
- 1:02:10for $2.4 billion. Rizza saying the greatest of all
- 1:02:14time. We're going higher now.
- 1:02:18Again, why am I talking about this?
- 1:02:19I'm not really just trying to update you on the Sailor, you
- 1:02:22know, buying tracker chart because we've been doing that
- 1:02:28for a while now. I think we're all we're like,
- 1:02:30yeah, OK, you know, Sailor gets free money, basically free money
- 1:02:35to buy Bitcoin. I wish I had that.
- 1:02:37I think we're just getting jealous at this point of like,
- 1:02:39you know, leave. Leave some for the rest of us,
- 1:02:41bro. But Kaiser's been on this tip
- 1:02:44for a minute. I know Ruston's been on this tip
- 1:02:47for a minute. He's been talking about this on
- 1:02:49his show for a while now. We've loosely touched about it
- 1:02:53on this show. And then Max Kaiser just double
- 1:02:56s down on it. He's been going bananas on this,
- 1:02:59this idea of a forced halving, and I absolutely love it.
- 1:03:02So Sailors scooping up all the Bitcoin on exchanges and forcing
- 1:03:06a move higher as part of his plan to fabricate a halving
- 1:03:09ahead of schedule, effectively eliminating a down cycle.
- 1:03:13The other Bitcoin treasury companies will find it very
- 1:03:15difficult to source Bitcoin. In fact, Sailor may have just
- 1:03:19set the stage for $100,000 God Candle strategies M NAV will hit
- 1:03:25a new all time high. Now I do want to go back here
- 1:03:29because one point actually, you know, Kaiser's making two I
- 1:03:33think important points here. And one point is again, remember
- 1:03:38how much Bitcoin Sailor just bought 21,000 how much Bitcoin
- 1:03:42he's bought this year? And remember how much Bitcoin is
- 1:03:46on the exchanges? Roughly 2.1 million.
- 1:03:49He, you know, Sailor has doesn't have 2.1 million under his
- 1:03:53control yet, but he is buying a lot of Bitcoin.
- 1:03:58Now the interesting thing is this idea of a force halving and
- 1:04:03everyone knows or you're if you're here, you probably know
- 1:04:05about the halving every four years the Bitcoin supply gets
- 1:04:07cut in half. What Kaiser has been saying is
- 1:04:11with all the these new corporate treasuries coming into the space
- 1:04:14again, they haven't deployed all the capital that they have
- 1:04:18potentially raised yet to buy the Bitcoin.
- 1:04:21But if you do add up all of the Bitcoin, they supposedly bought
- 1:04:26again, 3.64 million Bitcoin, a lot of these buys I don't think
- 1:04:32have fully been actualized yet, but we're starting to see that
- 1:04:36increase. I don't think they have closed
- 1:04:38their funding. They haven't been able to deploy
- 1:04:40all of this capital, but we are. Starting to see.
- 1:04:44That there is this supply shock on the horizon.
- 1:04:48Now whether you think we're being hyperbolic that there will
- 1:04:50be a supply shock, who knows what's going on really and who
- 1:04:54knows you know what price people are going to sell their Bitcoin,
- 1:04:58buy the Bitcoin, etcetera, etcetera.
- 1:05:00But with the amount of pressure we are seeing this idea of a
- 1:05:04synthetic halving which is so much capital coming into the
- 1:05:08space. And remember not that much
- 1:05:10Bitcoin is released every day and every year now.
- 1:05:13And of course, that's going to get cut in half again in about
- 1:05:17what is it. Two years, I believe.
- 1:05:19Let me. I don't know if I have it over
- 1:05:21here. I don't think I have it on hand.
- 1:05:23I haven't checked it in a while, but you know, the Halving's on
- 1:05:26the horizon. Let me see.
- 1:05:28Can I find it? No, not quickly.
- 1:05:33I'm stalling, totally stalling right now.
- 1:05:39Yeah, totally stalling. I can't find it.
- 1:05:42I don't know where it. Is anyways you get the picture
- 1:05:46with less Bitcoin being deployed into the market, more capital
- 1:05:50coming in. This is kind of going towards
- 1:05:53the idea and maybe I'm just making the case for myself
- 1:05:57recently that this time is different.
- 1:05:59You know, people are yelling at me that that I make stuff up and
- 1:06:02I'm a liar because I update my points of view with new
- 1:06:07information coming into the market like a normal human
- 1:06:09being. What a concept.
- 1:06:11Yeah, what a concept here, you know, holding me to stuff.
- 1:06:14I said like a year ago when there is more information out
- 1:06:18there to update your point of view and your mentality, It's
- 1:06:21it's a crazy outlandish concept here.
- 1:06:26It is feeling like the amount of capital coming into Bitcoin, it
- 1:06:32might be fundamentally changing the course of how Bitcoin moves.
- 1:06:36And obviously I want to see this because I want to see like I'm
- 1:06:40dopamine fried guys like I. I'm.
- 1:06:42Trying to go back to 2017. Can we get some pumping action
- 1:06:46here? I am dead inside.
- 1:06:48I need some Bitcoin pumping to feel something again.
- 1:06:51This up a little bit and then sideways forever I need.
- 1:06:54To touch some grass, bro. Dude, I really do.
- 1:06:57I didn't see Optic ink on that list.
- 1:06:59Dude, I'm broke. I I, I get a dollar and I buy
- 1:07:02Bitcoin. That's dude, my dollar is not
- 1:07:04holding up anymore. I can't hold up the market on a
- 1:07:07dollar a day anymore. OK, I'm doing my best.
- 1:07:10Well, here we go. Thank you so much, Mr. Thomas.
- 1:07:13Yeah, having in two years and 257 days.
- 1:07:16So that means the Bitcoin supply that we are currently seeing a
- 1:07:20day and a year will get cut in half.
- 1:07:22And with the amount of capital coming in and also the interest
- 1:07:25that is potentially on the horizon, the the, you know,
- 1:07:29tectonic shift that is happening around the narratives of
- 1:07:32Bitcoin, it's hard to see how the market structure will kind
- 1:07:37of maintain the way it has. We have what three data points
- 1:07:41on the Bitcoin chart, 33 bull cycles, and we're all thinking
- 1:07:45it's going to play out like it has.
- 1:07:48I don't know, man, I, I'm kind of leaning into what Kaiser's
- 1:07:51saying synthetic having coming thanks to Sailor and all of the
- 1:07:55strategy clones. I don't know what's worse.
- 1:07:59Copycats are clones, but. I've never, I've never actually
- 1:08:02thought about like seeing the halving in terms of like not
- 1:08:07the, the like mining side of Bitcoin, but just like the
- 1:08:12supply, right? That's like what what this is
- 1:08:15all about. I have to clarify because
- 1:08:17sometimes I'll talk like very confidently, but actually have
- 1:08:20no idea what I'm talking about and people in the chat will call
- 1:08:22me out and like rightfully so. So I have to clarify, what does
- 1:08:28that mean that like all these exchanges are just going to end
- 1:08:31up having to buy Bitcoin from Sailor?
- 1:08:33Like what? What is Sailor going to do now?
- 1:08:35This Bitcoin? That is the like, what?
- 1:08:38What's his $42 million question here is what is Sailor going to
- 1:08:44do in the end game? It does seem like he's trying.
- 1:08:47He's not going to leave his money to anybody.
- 1:08:49He doesn't have a wife, he doesn't have kids.
- 1:08:51He's just, he says he's going to die with his Bitcoin.
- 1:08:53So like he's. Starting a central bank He is
- 1:08:58the new central banker he's our. New that just went dark.
- 1:09:01He's our new overlord. Be nice to sailor 'cause he will
- 1:09:05have all the capital. He will be the richest man in
- 1:09:07the world very shortly. He's a very nice man.
- 1:09:11I've met him before and he's very sweet, has kind eyes.
- 1:09:15I thought you were trolling. Agreed.
- 1:09:16I haven't met him. I haven't met him, but it does
- 1:09:19seem like they actually kind of connecting this to what Jack
- 1:09:24Mueller said in the beginning is, you know, what Jack Mueller
- 1:09:27thinks is going to differentiate 21 capital from micro strategy
- 1:09:32is that they are trying to, you know, create Bitcoin products.
- 1:09:35Now you could argue that Sailor is making Bitcoin products.
- 1:09:38They are just tapping into traditional capital markets,
- 1:09:42which is obviously what I think is a very beneficial.
- 1:09:46I I think you guys saw me learning on the show live last
- 1:09:48week when he dropped the strike, no sorry stretch product.
- 1:09:54And I was like, wait, like, what exactly is he doing?
- 1:09:57I know a lot of a lot of my friends in the chat were saying
- 1:09:59he's just creating more paper Bitcoin.
- 1:10:01This is just VI games. And I'm like, no, I think he's
- 1:10:04creating the straws to drink the milkshake of the traditional
- 1:10:08financial system. So it's hard to see what his end
- 1:10:11game is, but his current game name is a bridge from the trad
- 1:10:15Phi, literally zombie capital markets and bringing that
- 1:10:18capital into Bitcoin. So who knows what what his final
- 1:10:22end game is to be honest. But he is going to have a huge,
- 1:10:28huge treasure chest. And maybe maybe part of that
- 1:10:31incentive isn't just to to hoard all of this Bitcoin because I
- 1:10:36think at some point he's going to realize, like, what am I
- 1:10:38going to do with all of this? And part of his legacy might be
- 1:10:42to spread some of that Bitcoin around to some of the biggest
- 1:10:45companies in the world and have them maintain these Bitcoin
- 1:10:50strategic reserves so that they're permanent part of how
- 1:10:54companies now operate, you know? Yeah, sorry, sorry.
- 1:10:57I was looking at Rumble. Let me pull it out.
- 1:10:59Let me pull it out. You guys, bro Geo Ridge, bro
- 1:11:06Sailor will be running continents in the near future.
- 1:11:09Totally 100%. Yeah, no, it's, it's very
- 1:11:14interesting. Again, I think, I think what a
- 1:11:18lot of us bit corners have to do is kind of our like mental.
- 1:11:23It's like spring cleaning mentally.
- 1:11:25What are you gonna do with that Bitcoin Again?
- 1:11:27It's the Peter Parker. What's uncle?
- 1:11:29Is it Uncle Ben? Yeah, Uncle Ben.
- 1:11:31With great power comes great responsibility.
- 1:11:34Yes, maybe your Bitcoin holdings right now aren't life changing
- 1:11:38crazy money, but again, using some sailorisms here, every
- 1:11:42Bitcoin you don't buy is a $13 million opportunity cost.
- 1:11:45So if you want to kind of start thinking about where you
- 1:11:50potentially could be in the future, just price whatever
- 1:11:53holdings you are by 13 mil and then start thinking of what you
- 1:11:57would like to do with that money.
- 1:11:59This is what we have to do as bitcoiners is not necessarily
- 1:12:02just hoarding Bitcoin to fulfill our greed.
- 1:12:05It's like, what do we want to do with that money?
- 1:12:07We've all committed here to try to give you guys the top news,
- 1:12:11educate you guys on news, learn on the job and and make sure
- 1:12:14that we are updating our mental frameworks as we go along so we
- 1:12:18can give you guys the best insight and analysis on the
- 1:12:22Bitcoin stuff. But we really want to, you know,
- 1:12:26do Bitcoin media and and further go as far as we can with the
- 1:12:29media stuff so we can combat all of the legacy media companies
- 1:12:34and give us some good stuff out there.
- 1:12:36I don't know what that goal is for you guys.
- 1:12:38You know, I know Sophie just wants to chill and have babies
- 1:12:40and and buy buy, you know, nice things for the house, which is
- 1:12:44which is good house. You know, home making is the
- 1:12:46best job period for actually, I can't.
- 1:12:49I don't know if I can even say that.
- 1:12:50But yes, you know, mothers are important.
- 1:12:53Listen, I highly recommend I, I kind of see Sailor is like the
- 1:12:58ultimate influencer right now. Like he's not after these like
- 1:13:02small brands. He's after huge companies that
- 1:13:06are worth like millions and sometimes billions of dollars
- 1:13:10and who are now looking at having a Bitcoin strategic
- 1:13:13reserve because of him. I would call that being the
- 1:13:16ultimate influencer. So for now, I think, and you
- 1:13:20know, on a smaller scale, like he influences a lot of people, a
- 1:13:23lot of plebs to buy as much Bitcoin as you can.
- 1:13:26Saying that every time you don't buy a Bitcoin, you're wasting a
- 1:13:30$13 million opportunity cost is actually like very powerful.
- 1:13:38So for now, I think that he is like the world's biggest
- 1:13:41influencer as like kind of thought he is that sounds but
- 1:13:45like he is. And in the future, I think that
- 1:13:48the way that he maintains that influence and he maintains his
- 1:13:51legacy is by kind of making sure that there is enough Bitcoin for
- 1:13:57all of these companies to maintain a strategic reserve to
- 1:14:00carry that on for generations to come for their kids, for, you
- 1:14:05know, the future generations who aren't going to be able to
- 1:14:09depend on a Fiat system because it's literally crumbling to the
- 1:14:13ground. It's making life worse.
- 1:14:15It's making life more expensive. It's degenerating our moral
- 1:14:19values. So you know, it, it goes way
- 1:14:22beyond, you know, the, the initial opportunity cost that he
- 1:14:26describes, it goes all the way to, and I talk about this in my
- 1:14:30video like, you know, your moral character and what we value as
- 1:14:33the human race at the end of the day.
- 1:14:36True, true. All right, guys, that is the
- 1:14:40wrap of the show. But we do have one last plug for
- 1:14:44Sophie. Dark Maven Gaming says, can we
- 1:14:48get a Sophie show shilling Bitcoin more often?
- 1:14:50Yes, this is what this is what we're doing.
- 1:14:53I'm gonna have another episode come out next week, so stay
- 1:14:58tuned for that. I really want you guys to watch
- 1:15:00that video. Let me know how I did.
- 1:15:02Be brutally honest. I love feedback.
- 1:15:06And I want you to tell me what it is that you want me to cover.
- 1:15:09Because, you know, if I start talking about what I want, I'm
- 1:15:12going to start talking about having babies and like the best
- 1:15:15makeup products and things that I'm actually into.
- 1:15:18But that's not what I want to talk about.
- 1:15:20I want to talk about what you're into and I really want to learn
- 1:15:24with my audiences as as I go along.
- 1:15:27So if you guys could do that for me, hit the like button, hit the
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- 1:15:35and let me know how I did. Let's go.
- 1:15:38All right, guys. So coming.
- 1:15:40It's going on anyways, guys. We will be back tomorrow same
- 1:15:44time as always. Officially 12:15 PM,
- 1:15:48unofficially 12:30-ish. Stay in the live.
- 1:15:53Stay in the live shot at 12:15. It gets really fun.
- 1:15:57Anyways guys have a good one. What's the what would I always
- 1:15:59say? Touch some grass, eat some good
- 1:16:01food, call your loved ones, all that good stuff.
- 1:16:03We will see you tomorrow. Peace out.
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