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#150 - Unleashing the Sound of Gibson & Co: A Dive into Outlaw Country Rock · The Chris and Mike Show

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And we're live. Welcome YouTube and Twitchers.
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YouTube and Twitchers. I don't know what they like to
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be called. They're Twitchers.
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I really could just listen that song all day, every day for the
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entire length of the song. And then just, you know, we
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wrote about our, our, our, yes, we did write that song.
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That's us. Gibson and Co, They said that's
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us. Like we wrote that song like 30
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years ago, man. Watch how impressive.
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Watch how impressive this is. We have Steve on my left and
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Adam on my right. Welcome fellas.
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Oh, right on, right on. I was practicing while you were
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restarting your computer. Steve on my left, at him on my
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right. So Gibson whoops.
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Gibson and company is live now on Twitch.
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I'm I'm I'm sharing your photo. All right on.
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So, so people can come on and listen and all that kind of fun
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stuff. We put it on our our Facebook
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page every time we have a guest. So you know, it's all about
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making you guys more famous than you already are because that's
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why we do this. We have our recent guests
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reached 1.5 million views on something.
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The other one just won an award at the Grand old Opry, I think 2
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days ago. And it's it's strictly because
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they come on our show. There you go.
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We're taking full credit. We're taking full credit, man,
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because. They're not here to tell the
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real story. Right, right.
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Absolutely it is so. Awesome that that happened
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though. Congratulations, Dave Nudo.
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Yeah, yeah. Oh, and then we have and then
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Lamoine Alexander. His stuff's charting like crazy.
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And again, it's all because he comes on the Chris and Mike
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show. There you go.
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You know, you know. So yeah, you're for world
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domination. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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So that's why we always get backstage passes and and VIP
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treatment when you guys explode, because you know, we help launch
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you. So welcome.
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Welcome to the Christian Mike show.
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I'm Chris, He's Mike. And as as Mike said, who were,
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who were we talking to Mike? We have Steve on my left, Adam
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on my right. I don't know how they look to
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you, but cowboy hat is Steve. And there you go.
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Derby style hat is Adam. There you go and and they are
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Gibson and they are Gibson and Company and I love the names.
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I do too. I you know what?
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Ironically, when we first started chatting, I thought, I
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thought it was something completely different than an
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actual Me too. I, I thought you were like,
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like, I don't know, like, I don't know, like build guitars
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or something. Like, 'cause I get flooded with
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so many people that want to be on the show that you know.
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So now I know that's why I asked you before Mike showed up.
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So there's the picture of the band.
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Can you see that? Yes.
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Yeah, OK. Can, can can you guys see that?
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Yeah, that's, that's what I said.
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That was a that was a very cool picture.
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Go ahead. I said that's in the other room.
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That's it's a little dim, but that's the live room that we
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were talking about earlier. Oh, right on, right on.
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And then we have our our Michael Castillo day guest, Mikey
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Castillo has been joining us on this thing since day one.
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So he just chimed in saying hi, guys.
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Hope all is well. So let's let's let's just dive
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in. And yeah, I want you guys to
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kind of tell our listeners and our viewers of 27 countries, you
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know what Gibson and Co is all about, your music, your style,
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your brand, and then we'll just start having a conversation from
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there. Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, we were kind of a country rock band, pop influence, very
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guitar driven. And if you listen to any of the
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songs, it's all starts with good raunchy riffs and good beats and
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all of that kind of stuff. And yeah.
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Talking my language. Raunchy riffs man you.
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Got me right there. Yeah, we'll go with that one.
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And then I mean, you see the model you comment about that
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earlier. They live like an outlaw
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dialect, you know, and that's kind of what we're.
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Like go for. Rebels, you know.
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Yes, thank you. There, Now you're talking my
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language too, even even more, right?
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I love these guys. Yeah, I I figured you would, you
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know? That picture is out.
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I mean, all your photography, whoever's doing that, all of it.
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So far, the band picture is outstanding.
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It's really cool without being cliche or overdone.
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It's whoever came up with that. Kudos.
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Cool. Yeah, cool, went on.
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Yeah, that's another thing. We've got a good team.
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Everybody offers something different and it's it just
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works. Good chemistry.
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Well, one thing that I always say is nobody wants to see their
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parents up on stage, right? So I like that you all have a
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character. It's just, it flows very well.
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I like it right? On it's good.
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Nice. And that's important to me.
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Chris will tell you images, everything, man.
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Especially when we were coming up, there was no Internet, you
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know, it was the early 90s. We had to go out there and beat
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the streets and get people in. And if they came in and you
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didn't have a product to offer, right, you guys definitely have
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a product to offer. The photography's outstanding.
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Well, that is what a lot of I mean it's marketing, right?
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There's so absolutely everybody is, is a great musician and
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there's, I mean, I could walk down the street and, and, and go
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find an electrician that's a better drummer than I am, right?
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Correct. Right, right.
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Yeah, yeah. Setting yourself art.
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From I always say that it's a given that you have to be able
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to play if you're going to be in a band for a living, right?
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If you want to do that to make money, obviously you have to
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know how to play. So now what's next?
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Right. Yeah, that's right.
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Yeah. Set yourself apart somehow.
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And you guys have definitely done that.
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Right on. That's cool.
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That's cool. Very cool.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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Yeah, you guys keep talking. I'm just sharing.
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I can't believe Chris has not asked Steve, where are you from?
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Carry on. You're from where?
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I'm from new Newcastle, England. OK.
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Oh, right on. Yeah, very cool.
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Aaron yen moved to moved to Canada 19 years ago now so.
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I love, I love the accent, man. Where are you guys at in Canada?
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Saskatchewan. Right in the middle.
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Oh, right on. Yeah.
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I'm going to play Chris's drinking game and talk to me
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about The Tragically Hip real quick.
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Oh well. I love those guys, man.
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Yeah. Yeah, again, raunchy riffs.
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Yeah. Thank you.
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So is that how you would describe your music?
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Kind of like straight ahead rock'n'roll with A twist.
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I would say like outlaw country, kind of.
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Yeah, outlaw country is the best you can come up with.
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Or outlaw rock or something, something like that.
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I know what you're talking about and I really like that a lot.
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I. Love the logo?
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It doesn't fit. It doesn't fit like country,
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like pure Nashville country. It doesn't work raw.
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It's not straight rock. It's not pop.
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Although some of the melodies are like they're really catchy
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and the songs are well, hooked. That's the the songwriters do
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that. So they got good sensibilities
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there. So yeah.
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And then we just add, like, you know, there's a picture of
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Courtney, she adds. You know, banjo, mandolin.
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Yeah. Awesome.
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Bluegrass elements, but it's not bluegrass because it's some
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black and all the things. So real bluegrass people would
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be really upset. But we we just like the sounds
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and the textures and the layers and it just sort of fits
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together. And so she's.
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Playing that style within your guys's style of kind of southern
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rock, country, Blues, that's so cool man.
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I'm going to be a fan for sure. I I have not heard your music
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yet, but I'm excited about hearing it.
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And then a lot of this picture, oh, the amp wall there.
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Yeah, I like the amp wall man. Obviously, I do too.
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Yeah, yeah. Now, now studio wise, go back
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one. Are you recording in Canada?
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Yeah. They're in their studio right
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now. Oh.
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Yeah. Oh, OK, that's right.
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This is the other side of that wall again.
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Oh, oh, yeah, right on. I just, I just put that
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together. Yeah.
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Yeah, that's what I'm looking at though.
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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's cool.
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Yeah, that we're in and you can see through the through the
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glass over into the live room over there, so.
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Very cool. Couple of different couple of
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different rooms, yeah. Nice.
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Now is this a home studio or is this a place that you go, you
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travel to so. This is my home studio.
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Right on. Wow.
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I built it onto the side of my house a few years back.
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Right on. Yeah.
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I need to step up my game man. Yeah, come and come and join me
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in debt. Yeah, right.
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Right, right. True story.
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So how long have you guys been a band?
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I think you've been to get to see.
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I'm going to start doing my my Scottish accent now because it's
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just, it's just, it's just weighs on me.
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Or race player with here as well.
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Roger in in some of those photos there.
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He's from New Zealand. So we just have an absolute
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operea. Ridiculous.
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Not the nation. Right on.
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We've got all kinds of accents going on.
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That's fantastic. I don't know how to say words
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anymore. Oh dear.
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How long have we been a band? Yeah.
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It's it's funny that actually because like they started years
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ago, like we did, the studio is actually a good conversation
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because I worked in, well, I work in construction and Adam we
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recording his living room upstairs, same as what you've
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got going on. Just put the curtains down, tell
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the kids to be quiet and we're recorded in the living room.
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And then you build this, this control room.
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This was the main studio. This was everything, everything
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squished into this one room. Drums and guitars.
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Everything. Yeah, Down.
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There, fellas. Yeah.
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And then, and then Adam phoned me one day and he says I'm going
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to put an addition on the House. Could you bring a a tracker
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around? So I've like I'm a heavy
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equipment operator and a truck driver.
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So I loaded the big excavator on the on the low bed, drove it
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right down his St. here and started knocking his garage down
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and digging a hole. And he built the addition
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because he's a Carpenter and he built the upstairs of the house,
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the big studio and everything. And it just kind of built from
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there. And then you've been recording
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and playing and. We yeah.
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So we've recorded. We like I was in other bands,
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Steve was in other bands and you know, we would just get together
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for random things. You know, I'd have Steve come in
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and do some some session stuff with guitars for other projects
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that I was working on. I record music for for syncs as
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well. So I've got.
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Explain that real quick. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So syncs is like anytime you you're recording music for
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commercial purposes like TV commercials, movies, those types
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of things where it's. Is that your publisher?
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Yeah. So yeah.
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OK. That would be like our BMI or
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our ASCAP. That's Apro.
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So a publisher is going to be taking your songs and actually
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selling them to music directors that work at network studios and
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stuff. I've had songs play on like NBC
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and and a bunch of Canadian networks and no, he'll know, but
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that are big up here and stuff as well.
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So, so publisher is going to get you the placements in in those
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types of things. And then your PR OS are going to
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are going to collect based on how many spins right, that you
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get. But but I write music for for
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that. Don't have Steve come in and and
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do session work and whatever I needed for whatever project.
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And then we ended up, I mean, we, we were working on a bunch
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of music, just a lot of solo stuff.
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And I talked to my publisher and I sent him some demos of some of
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this, some of the stuff for, for Gibson and Co.
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And that he was, they were very excited, we'll just say.
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And they commissioned the whole album sight unseen, just on I
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think 2 demos. I, I sent them and they said,
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yeah, 10 songs. Now we want it.
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I want to push this so, so that's kind of how it started
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it. It wasn't like we didn't set out
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to become a band. We were musicians that we, you
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know, we always, we were in multiple bands, but then it sort
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of came. It's a little flip-flopped.
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You know, normally people are a band and then they'll find a
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publisher at some point if if they're so lucky.
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We were just the opposite. We had a publisher and and then
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we became a band. Yeah, that's cool.
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I have your video ghost playing in the background.
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It's silent, obviously, because I don't want to drown your
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conversation out. But I dig.
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I dig the fill of a video if. That kind of I was totally
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listening to your story, and that's awesome.
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And then I was transfixed on this video that's playing too,
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because I love your look, man. Yeah, you guys nailed it.
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Look at that. They're doing a little a little
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band jam right there. You got the banjo going.
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Yeah. That's that's cool.
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Now, now let's talk about the video.
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Is this something you guys came up with or did you have somebody
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else come in and kind of give you the artist direction?
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This is what we're going to do. This is how we're going to, you
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know, storyboard this whole thing.
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No, we did all of it. We storyboarded everything, got
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the venue. Yeah, we've got a very close
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friend. Well, I guess he's your family.
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Yeah. Who's my videographer and.
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Use the photos as well. So we do everything within our
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team. It's all done in house well.
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Kudos to all of those people. And yeah, specifically the
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photographer and the videographer, because you can
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screw that up so easy. The lighting has to be right.
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All this stuff is just so very well done.
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He's very anal about lighting, yeah.
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Well, what the good thing about that is though, you guys, you
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guys control your stuff, which is good, which which, you know,
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especially this day and age, right.
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Yeah, it's. Nice to have.
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I mean, you feel connected to with the project and then I
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don't know, everybody feels like they like they have something
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that they're contributing to the overall.
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Yeah, product, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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Absolutely every everybody cares about the end result.
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You know, it's not just a job, it's not just pushing, pushing
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out and getting paid. It's they like, like I said,
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family. It's like a family.
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Like it's it's where. A.
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Group we we play together, we work together, we drink
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together. We, you know, it's good.
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It's fun. No question, you know you, you
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share all the same life experiences.
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Exactly how? So where are you?
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Where's everybody from? Like you?
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We got New Zealand, we got Canada.
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Is it, is it just a barrage of locations?
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England. OK, that's right.
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England, yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah, Roger was he? He was, yeah.
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He's from New Zealand. You're from Newcastle,
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Courtney's from Manitoba, I'm from Saskatchewan, Joel's from
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Me and Joel are kind of from around this area here in
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Saskatchewan. OK.
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Is that? Everyone.
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That's everyone. Do you have any more members?
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Yeah, Hiding, I guess. PR the video from South Africa.
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South Africa. Yeah.
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Oh, this This video is in South Africa.
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No, no videographers from South Africa.
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Oh. OK, OK.
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This is very much Saskatchewan. Yeah, this is like 10 Mile Rd.
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kind of thing. That just yeah, that scream.
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Saskatchewan there, hey. And this is moonshine.
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Yeah, yeah, right. That's the last thing that went
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out. Yeah.
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Radio Car. This video only come out like 2
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weeks ago I think. Oh cool.
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Yeah, pretty new. Yeah, right.
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On So you guys are getting radio play like across Canada then,
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yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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Don't play too much of that or we'll get pulled.
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I know, I know, I know. I got.
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Just get a royalty for it, it's fine.
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But no, dude, we can shut down, man, when we try to showcase
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bands like this and try to show you your music.
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Yeah, YouTube. Here's a quick.
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Example, we had a guy named Joe Altier on here and Joe,
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hopefully you get an e-mail and you can sign off on it.
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But Spotify sent me a cease and desist and then I sent them an
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explanation. I had to do an appeal that's
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going to go to Joe's publisher who's got to get in contact with
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him. And I'm sure it's going to be
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fine because he was on the show. But that's the process.
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Even though you guys are sitting here saying it's OK, your
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publisher doesn't say it's OK and neither does YouTube.
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Well, thanks APM. Yeah, and.
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No, right. But it's messed up because.
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Just take your take your royalty, yeah.
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But but, but think, but think about it.
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OK, so we're in 27 countries and when we do the show right now,
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we're live. OK, so we're live.
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Right. We're not monetized either.
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Right, right. So all those, all those
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countries that could be watching us right now, we could be
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showcasing your music and driving them to go to your
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YouTube channel, go to Spotify, go to Apple Music, wherever and
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buy your stuff, right? That's the whole point.
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Like in our musicians, we, you know, we were in a band, all
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that kind of jazz, we had development deals with labels,
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everything. So we've been there, done that.
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So it's, you know, it's the brotherhood of music.
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We're sitting here talking to you guys.
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So our whole thing is let's let's help push these bands out
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to the forefront. Let's help promote them, let's
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help them. Like we, we have a label that
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just feeds us artists now because they like how we do
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this, but it sucks because every time we'll play a song or do
18:13
anything that's that's music related and we allow that to
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bleed through the, the show, we get shut down.
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Like YouTube will block that content.
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They'll they'll erase it. I've appealed stuff too and it's
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come back and they're just like middle finger not going to
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happen. It's it's ridiculous because all
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we're doing is pushing you out. We're we're pumping you up and.
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So what we need and our responsibility in this is we
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need a middle man between your publisher and us, just like you
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have your publisher to protect your music.
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I'm a ASCAT member myself, so I understand.
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I want to get paid as well. But what we need, Chris and I,
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is a middle man between you and your publisher to Duke it out
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behind the scenes before that ever happens.
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So you get your money, we get our money and everybody's happy.
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Because where our situation is a little different, usually
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publishers quite often are, are just doing, they're doing
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commercial music, they're working with composers, not
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artists and bands. So we have a, a deal where like
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they, their, their realm is anything that's sync license
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related. And then anything that we do as
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far as like, you know, radio and, and Spotify and all that
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stuff is all controlled by us as the artists.
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So they don't actually like, they don't do any of the
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streaming stuff. They don't do any of the YouTube
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Music. They don't do any of that kind
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of stuff. That's us.
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So in your case, you might be a great test example of what Chris
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was just talking about. So that little bit of music that
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he played will probably be enough to trigger something.
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When he sends you an appeal, it's going to come right to you
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so you guys can communicate through text or whatever.
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Let's I would be curious to see how this plays out.
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Interesting because. Actually play another one of
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their. Songs just so that's what I was
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going to do. That's no, I was that's exactly
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I'm going to go back. I'm going to go back to the
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page. Hold on.
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And I'm glad, thank you, Adam, for explaining that because you
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could see it wasn't going through my thick skull that you
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are controlling your own stuff. So thank you for pushing that
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through. How you Otherwise we wouldn't be
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allowed to use our music in that video for example.
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The publisher has nothing to do with that video being OK.
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OK there we go they will make money off of it.
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Aren't they getting their lit? Their portion and we want you to
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make money and we want to make money.
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We want to make everybody happy. We just trying to do the right
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thing, like Chris said, is getting us flagged all the time.
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Well, let's let it RIP. Yeah, so here.
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So here's, so here's so so let's watch about 15 seconds of
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moonshine so we can have it just on the on the clip and see what
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happens. Yeah.
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Go through. Go through the chorus.
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Turn it up a little bit. OK.
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We like the planes and a raging fire.
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We light it up, make the noise if you make the moon shine.
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Singing right along to a radio song That I can change you.
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Every kiss I'm stealing from your lips.
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The sun has been out on fire in the sky.
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Bill Gates down and the nights coming alive like sun goes back
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in time baby. They're making his story like a
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planes in a raging fire. We lighted up like gasoline.
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Times are coming up. I like it, Singer.
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This is on the guitar solo, man, Did you see how quick that
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happened? Did you see how quick that
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happened? I wasn't I?
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Wasn't intentionally dissing on the guitar sole.
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I just, I just wanted, I wanted to go.
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Guys playing his heart out and you're looking at.
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Him. There you go.
22:43
There you go. There you go.
22:53
I love this guy. It wasn't a purpose, man.
22:57
I know man. I dig it though.
22:59
I dig it. I like it, man.
23:01
That's the one of the things that Mike and I like to do.
23:03
We don't we we don't really like to to researchers come on the
23:07
show because we want everything to be real, raw and organic.
23:09
So the reactions that we're having is legit reactions.
23:12
This is the first time we're hearing the music, which to me
23:14
now you're all on Apple Podcast, Spotify, all that kind of stuff,
23:17
right? Or not Apple Podcast, but iTunes
23:19
and stuff. Yeah, all those.
23:21
Things cool, cool. So you're going to see some
23:23
purchases in Arizona, man, because because I like it and I
23:26
don't fuck around with just one song.
23:28
I'll buy the album because I'm that guy, because I'd rather be
23:31
able to to get the whole album because the little Nuggets,
23:34
right, You only released a few songs and and you end up finding
23:38
some really cool music if you buy the whole album.
23:41
At least I found that way. So I like, I like buying the
23:45
whole thing and checking it out and say, OK, cool, you know, and
23:48
you just kind of go from there. So.
23:50
I like you guys a sound a lot, man.
23:52
Very cool. Yeah.
23:53
Yeah. So yeah, for sure you could tell
23:58
Steve's duty or heavy machinery operator.
24:01
Yeah. Is that what I was going to ask?
24:03
Who's the response for the stuff in the background?
24:05
Whose truck was that? And all, all them hoes in the
24:10
house in the back there. Yeah.
24:13
I was just like, Yep, I'm setting these up, yeah.
24:17
That's right on. I figured it was, it was
24:19
personal. You know how somehow you knew
24:22
somebody had the, the, the back hose in the in the truck in the
24:25
distance with the lights on and shit like that.
24:27
So that's. Literally.
24:28
Yeah, the video was outstanding. Crushes rocking, crushing,
24:31
rocking it and then. We set up.
24:33
And then we set up and then it rained right before so.
24:37
Right. Oh, that's perfect.
24:38
Absolutely. It's perfect that it rained
24:40
before. There's nothing wrong with that.
24:43
Yeah, the drums were sinking into the slowly outside.
24:47
Really. No shit.
24:50
It was super. That's that's fantastic, man.
24:53
Yeah. So here's a little bit more
24:54
about the bandage you guys are talking for the those of you and
24:57
us. I like the, I like the word
24:59
stellar. Good job.
25:00
I like saying stellar all the time.
25:02
So I appreciate you have stellar musicians in there.
25:04
One of my favorite words as well.
25:06
Right on Stellar. Stellar, even.
25:08
Noticed that before. You're the drum, Adam.
25:11
Yeah, I am. Yeah.
25:13
How long have you been playing drums?
25:14
Oh boy. The 20, the 2030.
25:20
Thirty years, maybe. What's your kid?
25:23
So it's a a sort of a Frankenstein's monster at this
25:26
point of, of drums. I love it.
25:29
I actually have a set of, you know, the company D drum.
25:33
Oh yeah, yeah. OK, so I bought a set of ash D
25:37
drum shells back in like 2000. I.
25:39
Love ash. My favorite guitar is made out
25:42
of swamp ash. Oh, nice.
25:44
So I bought these shells and this was back when D drum was
25:47
like they they're better now, like they've gone through some
25:50
company changes, but this was back before they had quality
25:52
control and so they were were really horrible.
25:56
The bearing edges were all over the place and Long story short,
26:00
I learned to like regrind edges and and do a bunch of work on
26:05
shells. And so I, I, I did a ton of work
26:08
to get the, the the bearing edges just how I wanted them.
26:12
Made them a little bit more rounded over like Ludwigs drums,
26:15
a little bit more than the sharp this is.
26:18
If any drummers are listening, they'll appreciate this.
26:21
You guys, maybe not. I know what you're talking about
26:23
for sure. Yeah, so it activates a little
26:25
bit more the ash shell with the rounder.
26:27
There's a little bit more contact surface on the on on the
26:30
on the brains. So anyway, I I did a bunch of
26:32
work on the shells to make them sound really good.
26:34
And my kick is is huge. If you saw in that video, it's a
26:36
24 by 20. That's.
26:38
Why? I was asking about your kit for
26:40
sure. Absolute cannon.
26:44
So yeah. So that's that's what I use for
26:47
my, my shells, just one up, one down.
26:50
And then I use my main snare that I use is a is a Tama and
26:56
it's it's a 6 1/2 by 14 and it's a a walnut.
27:03
So it's a yeah, it's just a nice absolute shotgun of a of a
27:07
snare. And I put like, yeah, and I put
27:10
like those like 24 band or 24 string snares on the bottom,
27:15
real snappy, sizzly, because I like that big.
27:19
You'll hear it in the recording. Big shotgun, massive snare.
27:24
That's why I'm asking these questions.
27:25
I've recorded a lot of really good drums and a lot of really
27:28
bad drums. Mino visance symbols I'm I'm a
27:32
fan of Minos except for my I've got a crope Zilchen ride with a
27:37
really tiny bell which is real washy and.
27:41
That's what I like to. I hate that Ting Ting.
27:43
I secretly wanted to be a drummer.
27:46
So then I just started kind of asking my drummer to do all
27:50
these things that I heard in my head that he wanted to do
27:53
anyway. Like he always laughed and said,
27:55
you're the first guitar player that ever asked me to play
27:57
harder and more, right? I'm like, yeah, but I, I wanted
28:01
to be a drummer. Yeah, that's awesome.
28:05
But my wanting to do so and my ability for.
28:08
Different, I've got a few different iterations that
28:11
depending on what I'm recording in the studio, I'll I'll break
28:14
out, but that's kind of my, that's my go to.
28:18
I love the sound and the feel of it so.
28:21
And for Steve, the Telecaster was my favorite in that first
28:24
video that we were watching without sound.
28:27
That telly is bad ass dude. Yeah, 62 Bigsby.
28:31
Yeah. Beautiful.
28:33
Yeah. Just the the top, the finish,
28:36
it's it stands out. There was a couple times I was
28:38
fixated on that while Adam was talking.
28:40
I'm not going to lie. I think the three.
28:43
Tom Sunburst, Yeah. Me too, yeah.
28:48
It just screams. You better be a good player,
28:50
which you are. You know, if you're if, if
28:52
you're going to manhandle that thing, you better be able to
28:55
make it sing. And you definitely do that for
28:57
sure. Nice.
28:57
Thank you. What are you looking at back
29:04
there? I'm, I'm, I'm dropping a review
29:07
for Gibson and company on their on their Facebook page because I
29:09
only have two and, and now that we've talked to them and
29:12
listened to their music, I can, I can honestly do a badass
29:14
review for them. Yeah, I like.
29:19
Keep talking. I like that organic too, man.
29:22
I'm, I'm sorry I didn't listen. I liked you guys on Facebook and
29:25
you were one of the ones that I was like, I got to go back and
29:27
check those guys out because I liked your logo.
29:30
I liked your sound or not your sound.
29:32
I liked your look and your logo of, you know, with the skull in
29:35
the background. And I just like Chris said, we'd
29:39
started getting inundated with people that wanted to be on the
29:42
show somewhere around June. And probably that's about the
29:47
time that I liked you guys on Facebook and then ended up
29:52
getting in contact with you. And I just never heard your
29:54
music. So it's really cool to hear it
29:56
while you guys are here because you're getting an honest
29:58
reaction. Yeah.
30:01
Yeah, we would tell you if it sucked.
30:02
I never lied a. Musician.
30:04
I just don't. I would, I'd say, you know, I
30:08
mean. Good luck sounds.
30:09
Good, I like it. Well, I'm glad that you picked
30:14
up on that for sure, because one of the things that you in like
30:18
that I do in the studio is I, I never, I never use loops.
30:23
I never use other people's samples.
30:26
Anytime I'm doing synth work, I, I don't just cycle through
30:30
presets. I build a, I build a sound for
30:36
that every single time. Like if, yeah, if, if we need
30:40
one of the, oh, maybe not ours, but for collect assembly.
30:43
We're in another band as well. You know, we have this real
30:48
spaghetti western kind of thing going on and we wanted a whip
30:51
craft and we got a whip. Found somebody that we lent us a
30:58
bull whip and we took it outside and strung a microphone out into
31:02
the backyard. YouTube how to crack a whip
31:06
because we were almost killing ourselves every time and there's
31:11
a real technique to it. Honestly, the people that do it,
31:13
it's impressive, but we had, yeah, we figured out how to
31:16
crack a whip and we recorded ourselves cracking a whip
31:19
instead of just downloading this I.
31:21
Love it. That's yeah.
31:22
Everything is maybe you make you made me think of Devo man, crack
31:25
that whip. Even that even thought I.
31:30
Just I just dated myself, right? No, I was with you.
31:34
OK. OK.
31:36
How old are you guys? Oh, I am 37, I believe, Yeah.
31:42
OK. Oh, you're young man, 40.
31:45
Yeah. 05250. 5555 Gen. X.
31:51
Yeah, there you go. Gen.
31:53
X yeah brother fucking a man. Rock'n'roll.
31:56
That's the fucking lutely. We're we've talked about it
31:59
before. We're the generation that that
32:01
actually, when you saw the band live was the first time you
32:04
actually saw them live. Like you didn't have the social
32:06
media. All you had was the vinyl jacket
32:09
or the cassette tape, you know, jacket and you could kind of
32:12
like, oh, or in the magazines, the hip Raiders and all that
32:15
shit. Then when you actually saw them
32:16
live, it was like one of those moments where, you know, the
32:19
lights go down and, and the energy, you can feel it in the
32:22
crowd. Everybody's like rising to their
32:24
seats. They start cheering and, you
32:25
know, lights come on. Oh, there's the band.
32:27
And it's just like. What?
32:30
And everyone was watching you and not.
32:32
Yes, yes, for. Sure.
32:35
Yeah, I wish I had a lighter because that's what you saw was
32:38
lighter, right. And I, I don't think Chris,
32:42
there you go. You saw 10,000 of those.
32:46
Yeah, yeah. And the cool thing, like I guess
32:51
until you said that, man, I just never thought about this.
32:53
Like, so him and I are from that generation and you guys are from
32:57
the next generation. That was that just That's never
33:00
going to happen for anybody younger than us, you know?
33:03
Right. No, the millennial generation
33:05
was the one that was in between. So some, you know, you had some
33:10
analog and some digital so. I would put you guys in the same
33:14
generation as us as millennials, only because you really couldn't
33:18
download very much quality video back then, you know?
33:21
Definitely not in Saskatchewan either.
33:23
Not here either, trust me. We were still like, yeah.
33:28
But Netflix was mailing out DVDs in the early 2000s, so the
33:31
Internet was not ready for streaming, no.
33:34
Yeah, for sure. If you were watching porn, it
33:37
took you like 1/2 hour to get a 2 minute download.
33:40
I'm gonna go take a shower and make a steak and I'll be back in
33:45
my video. I'll be ready at that.
33:46
Point you're on the mood anymore Exactly.
33:49
You know, there's something more productive.
33:52
I go play my guitar. Play guitar.
33:57
That's funny. Where's this at?
34:01
This was in my hometown, well, where I live now, Theatre
34:05
Saskatchewan. It's just, that's another thing
34:07
why the studio worked so well. It's 5 minutes down the road for
34:10
me. That's very convenient.
34:12
So yeah. So we this was like our debut
34:14
show when word got out there we were starting a new band.
34:19
So. Yeah, this was the first, the
34:21
first hometown, hometown show kind of CD release party thing
34:26
that we did. How many people did you get to
34:28
come out to that? A small town, maybe What, 400?
34:34
This is not bad. It's in the town that's good.
34:36
For a small town, yeah. Yeah.
34:38
Town has like 500 people in it. Yeah, exactly.
34:41
That's why I asked the question, because I'm I'm from a way
34:44
bigger town than that, but relatively small, like 1012
34:47
thousand people. OK, Yeah.
34:49
Yeah, when we would have one or two local bands, if we were
34:51
lucky enough at the time when I was a kid growing up, you would
34:55
easily get a couple 100 people. Mm, hmm, yeah.
34:58
On a Saturday night, 2300 kids would show up.
35:01
Yeah. Yeah, and by kids, I mean
35:04
teenagers. Yeah, yeah.
35:08
Just want the party. Hopefully the.
35:09
Yeah. Just with a little bit of
35:11
spendable income. Right.
35:15
We sold. Them.
35:16
So how many albums? How many albums?
35:17
How many albums do you guys have?
35:19
Or this one, just one for Gibson.
35:21
OK. Just for Gibson Company 1 and
35:23
that's ghost. And ghost, yeah.
35:25
I like the name. And and that came out when?
35:28
And well, what? How do I answer that?
35:31
It's not technically Oh. Yeah, March.
35:33
Oh. OK.
35:34
Oh, OK, OK. It's it's out by our publisher,
35:39
so it's getting like, so I think what was it one of the songs on
35:44
it? What's your excuse if you are
35:45
listening back in like August or something?
35:51
It played on some like Yankees games and stuff on MLB.
35:55
Not so like, like, so it's it's it's out.
36:00
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, it's it's out.
36:03
But it's not like we haven't released it.
36:05
So we're slow rolling like the digital releases and kind of put
36:09
in the loop the time and at least to kind of, you know, get
36:13
some music videos together and stuff and sort of, I don't know,
36:16
we're playing with it a little bit.
36:19
Yeah, it is. It's out and not at the same
36:21
time. So so when I so but when I, when
36:25
I go to iTunes and I look you up, what am I gonna be able to
36:28
buy? Am I gonna buy the whole album
36:29
as a pre-order and just get a couple of the singles that are
36:32
released or what? That's a good question.
36:34
Yeah, I don't think. Find out.
36:36
Yeah, yeah, definitely. Oh, he beat me to it.
36:39
I was gonna do it too. Definitely find out and tell and
36:42
tell us what we should be doing. OK, I will.
36:45
I will. I will.
36:46
Because we got we got Dave Nudo's marketing manager to have
36:49
him rerecord his, his fucking amazing song on the Lord of the
36:53
Devil. Yeah.
36:54
You guys recommend that for sure.
36:55
You should write this down. Write this down.
36:57
Dave Nudo, the Lord of the Devil.
36:59
Trust. NUDO nudo.
37:01
Yeah, you will be like, why isn't this guy out in
37:04
mainstream? You it'll be you'll it'll blow
37:05
your mind. I mean that listen to this song
37:07
is. I've listened to it, I'm not
37:09
shitting you, at least 200 times.
37:11
And he was on the pod like a month ago.
37:14
Is that Lord, Lord. Just any the Lord, Lord of the
37:16
devil, The Lord of the devil, dude, it's I'm telling you.
37:18
Oh. I'll check it out.
37:23
And we're going to find one of those songs that does that for
37:25
us, of you guys, and we'll never shut up about that one.
37:28
So that's just how these things work, yeah.
37:30
Yeah, in fact. In fact, I picked that song when
37:33
I pulled him up on the show because I like the title.
37:37
Oh yeah. Right.
37:37
So, so kind of like kind of like some of your stuff, like right
37:40
here. Like I love the moonshine.
37:42
And it was a cool visual backdrop, him with his back to
37:45
the scene with a cowboy hat and a long trench coat on.
37:49
Very. Cool.
37:51
Yeah, but but for Moonshine and Ghost, I like right away
37:54
Moonshine, especially now that we listen to the song a little
37:57
bit on on the channel, YouTube channel, you automatically think
38:01
it's about Moonshine, but it's not about Moonshine, which is
38:03
which is clever on your part. It's a very good play of words.
38:07
Twist in there, love. That, Yeah, total twist in
38:09
there. So moonshine's on here.
38:11
Gibson and Co Moonshine's on here.
38:14
From an album standpoint, that's the single.
38:18
Yeah. It's just, it's just moon sign.
38:20
Ghost this rain. Ghost is there.
38:23
Ghost is there. This is who I am.
38:25
Is that you guys? Crazy life.
38:27
The rain, this rain, I'm sorry, this rain.
38:30
So now just a now just this will this will kind of I don't know
38:33
if you like this or not, but you're you're wrapped up.
38:36
You're looped in with Waylon and Willie when I pull it up.
38:40
How can that I typed in Gibson Co.
38:42
I don't know. It's not bad Waylands man, but
38:46
right away Gibson Co you have you have your moonshine signals.
38:50
The third one down hires the second one, which I don't think
38:52
is you guys, that's Chris Stapleton.
38:56
Tom Petty's greatest hits comes up and higher than Stapleton
38:59
than you guys, which is weird. So but you had the the moonshine
39:03
the did. You mean Chris Stapleton when
39:05
you typed in? Yeah, yeah.
39:07
No, I didn't. I didn't.
39:08
I just typed in Gibson, a company man.
39:10
Maybe you meant? He's just telling you who's all
39:13
around you when you. Come up.
39:14
Who's around you guys? Yeah.
39:16
So it's kind of, it's kind of cool that you come up with you.
39:19
Guys, same with algorithm with all those other artists, right?
39:23
Right. So if somebody's going to type
39:24
Chris Stapleton, for whatever reason, you guys popped up, so
39:27
does Waylon and Willie. Four of your songs are here, but
39:30
then you have these other things that pop up.
39:32
Brooks and Dunn's on there. I speak his language.
39:34
That was his way of answering your question.
39:36
Yeah, yeah, it's a trip. I don't know if you see it, but
39:39
it legit. It legit gives you gives you
39:42
ties you in with those with those artists, which is pretty
39:45
bad ass, Yeah. Rubbing elbows, that is.
39:49
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Company.
39:51
Nice without even realizing it, man.
39:55
Yeah. Well, thank you.
39:56
Yeah. Well, it's well deserved, man.
39:59
You guys put forth, the people don't realize how much work goes
40:04
into all of what we have just talked about for the last 40
40:07
minutes. You know, this is years of all
40:09
of our lives talking about music.
40:11
Yeah, Yeah. So.
40:13
Kudos, man. It's all well deserved.
40:15
You guys put together a great product.
40:17
I'll buy it. Chris is gonna buy it.
40:19
I mean, we, we wouldn't do that if we didn't like it.
40:22
You know, I'm not gonna add something to my playlist.
40:24
It's gonna cause me grief. I love music too much.
40:27
Yeah. We greatly appreciate that.
40:30
Thank you. Well, you got great guitar tone.
40:32
Like I asked about his drums because I really like the sound
40:36
of his drums on the recording. So I'm like, this guy's got to
40:39
have something other than just. I went to Guitar Center and I
40:41
bought a fucking drum set. You.
40:43
Know right? That's a that's a custom built
40:47
weird nonsense kit, yeah. I'm getting ready to have my own
40:51
fuck finally custom built guitar for the first time so I'm super
40:54
excited about that. But that swamp ash guitar I have
40:58
was a Charvel STX Custom. There's something about that
41:02
wood that you found in the drums that I found in my guitar that
41:07
you just don't find in other woods, man, It's just so unique.
41:10
It's a very mid range, but it's got balls and the high end is
41:17
it's shimmering enough without being piercing.
41:20
You know, there's so many things that are important that we're
41:24
nerding out on talking about instruments, but these things
41:28
are what give people the final product that they're hearing,
41:31
right? That's important to us, that.
41:34
And a lot of. Deliver I.
41:36
Was going to say like jumping on the back of that too.
41:39
A lot of it too. As a musician, if that's what is
41:42
inspiring you, you're going to perform better using that.
41:46
You're going to like there's going to be something there.
41:49
That's that's why I like to do everything analog if I can.
41:51
I don't use amp Sims. I use a real amp with real
41:55
guitar pedals. We will reamp guitars and we'll
41:58
we'll make sure that it's coming through a actual speaker and
42:03
microphone because there's something that you get as a
42:06
performer when you're singing into a good microphone, into a
42:10
good. Is it, is it the color on its
42:13
own? Can you do something with
42:14
something different? You know, I've seen lots of
42:17
people in the mix, you know, app SIM compares to a real amp and
42:22
it's like once it's buried and there's 1000 layers, yeah, you
42:25
probably can't tell when the song is 3 minutes long and it's
42:28
over and done. But yeah, but there's something
42:31
that you get as a as a performer out of it and I all of those
42:36
little things make for what you astutely hear as an organic
42:42
sound. It sounds like a real human
42:44
played it with a real instrument.
42:45
And it's yeah, 1000 little things that go into making the
42:49
whole album sound like that. And I think that's super
42:52
important. You're you're spot on 100%.
42:56
Well, I was just in so many situations where I'd actually be
42:59
arguing, you know, I got when Chris left Nemesis, it
43:03
eventually dissolved and I formed other bands and he formed
43:06
other bands. But I never had that situation
43:09
again where it was all for one and one for all, right?
43:12
There was no egos there. It was all about what's best for
43:15
the band, what's best for the song.
43:17
And I'd be sitting in these situations where they'd be like,
43:20
what do you mean you can't play without your sound, man?
43:23
You know, it's like we're recording here.
43:26
There's a difference between I could get up on stage and fake
43:29
this right now with this piece of shit setup you have here, but
43:33
I can't do it in a recording, you know?
43:35
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I got to feel the
43:38
air coming out of the speakers, even if it's in my headphones,
43:41
right? Yeah, yeah, 100% yeah.
43:44
Why not make it so that the artist plays to their absolute
43:47
best and is the most inspired to give the best performance
43:50
possible? Like, why would you stand in the
43:52
way of that? That's.
43:53
Great. When I got in those arguments,
43:55
I'd be like. Producer, that's my whole thing.
43:58
Bring in whatever it is you need to feel like.
44:02
My job then when I engineer it also because I just double,
44:06
double duty it, right? But my job then is to make sure
44:09
I can capture that performance the best.
44:12
That's my job. Your job is to be an artist and
44:14
come in. I need a good performance ID, so
44:16
whatever it takes, yeah. Usually I would end those
44:21
arguments by saying and if you can do it, go play it.
44:24
Yeah, I can't. I can't do it, and I'm pretty
44:26
sure you can't either. So can we come to some kind of
44:29
compromise? Just a point so.
44:34
What's on What's on the horizon for Gibson and company?
44:37
Well, we've been pushing the pushing the radio a lot like
44:42
trying to get radio time for the for the singles.
44:46
But in the new year, we're going to start focus on what on my
44:49
live show. We're going to hit the road and
44:51
start focusing on on live live again.
44:54
So yeah. Do you have any dates set up
44:56
yet? Not yet, nothing yet.
44:58
We're putting together, putting together a few, a few things,
45:04
some different packages as well because we also do live
45:06
production. So you saw that in that PK
45:09
there. That was kind of the beginnings
45:11
of the, the setup and it's just grown from that point on to,
45:17
yeah, lights and light and rays and all that kind of stuff.
45:21
So we're putting together some packages for like, like rodeos
45:24
and stuff, you know, like cities have their little, their
45:27
exhibitions, their rodeos and things like that.
45:29
So, so, yeah, that's, that's one of the things on the horizon
45:32
that we're we're working on. That's what the winter's for
45:35
here. Nice and go outside.
45:39
Yeah, you can't. You can't go outside very often,
45:41
very long, I guess, right? Because you get in Saskatchewan,
45:44
you guys are just like so cold. Men have nipples too, right?
45:47
Oh yeah, big time. Yeah.
45:51
Metal plated inside of our jacket.
45:54
She. Gets cold.
45:56
Yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, so, well, cool.
46:00
That's, that's kind of the, that's sort of the idea there.
46:04
So next year, yeah, we'll we'll we'll be doing a few, we'll be
46:08
doing a few small tours, probably Western Canada and and
46:11
then we'll see kind of where things where things go from
46:14
there. But we still got the rest of the
46:16
album to release as well. It'll be some more artistic
46:19
projects that kind of come along with that.
46:21
I'm not sure Courtney has plans. Courtney has plans, so we'll
46:26
just do whatever Courtney wants, OK?
46:30
Right on when, when do you plan on kind of getting an idea of
46:35
the of the tours in 2026? The reason I'm asking that is we
46:39
can have you guys come back on prior to the tour kicking off
46:41
and kind of like showcase, hey, this is where they're going to
46:43
be. This is what you're doing, where
46:45
you're at, that type of thing to kind of help, you know, get the,
46:49
get the buzz out, I guess is the word.
46:51
Yeah, my, my, my, my best guess is it'll probably be like late
46:55
February, March, somewhere in that range.
46:57
Wow, Our year kind of figured out by then, Yeah.
47:00
OK, when you get a better idea, get a hold of Chris for sure.
47:04
Definitely. Yeah, you will, absolutely.
47:06
I'll make a note to poke at you in in middle of January, just
47:08
see where you're at because it'll, you know, we like to have
47:11
folks come back on, you know, just because they love talking
47:16
to us. We love talking to them and
47:17
it's, it's all cyclical. So.
47:19
Yeah, I just thought about that the other day.
47:21
Another year of doing that and it'll just be all repeat guests.
47:24
So it'll be tough to get back on here or it'll be tough to be new
47:27
to be on here. But well, like you, like you
47:30
said, we probably booked these guys in June and then now I'm
47:33
booking in December. So we, I kind of, I kind of
47:36
reeled it back a little bit because it gets a little chaotic
47:38
when you're trying to. Put I know, but I just like the
47:40
fact that these guys are on their way up.
47:43
We're, we feel like we're on our way way up.
47:45
We're we're all headed hopefully in the same direction together
47:48
and it'll just be cool to have that relationship going forward.
47:52
I I like that idea of it too for sure.
47:54
Yeah, for sure, for sure. So where where can people find
47:58
you? Where can they get a hold of
47:58
you? Obviously everything Gibson and
48:00
Cohen it's it's Gibson, Gibson and then the and symbol with Co
48:04
Gibson and Co music.com, correct.
48:06
That's correct, yeah. Yeah, and then you're on the
48:09
Spotify, iTunes, Facebook. I've shared your Facebook page.
48:12
We got the the the website isgibsonandmusic.com.
48:17
So spell it out, boys and girls, Gibson and music.com.
48:20
I'll show their their their website here again.
48:23
There it is right there. We were talking to Steve, which
48:28
is the lead singer and songwriter for the band and Adam
48:33
the drummer. Adam the drummer, right,
48:36
Drummer, producer, drummer, engineer, engineer, bus driver,
48:42
studio builder. So, so so let's go, let's go
48:46
that real quick before we wrap this all up.
48:47
So Adam's A drummer, right? He's 30 years of music as a
48:50
drummer. You got you got Joel 19 years is
48:54
the guitar playing. What is what does Joel do
48:56
outside of out of of? Is he have any other role in the
48:58
band besides what you and you and Adam are doing, Steve?
49:01
He's big into the Morgan side of things.
49:04
OK in the back. Cool.
49:06
Yeah, absolutely. Well, Joel, Joel runs a diesel
49:08
shop. Actually, he's a diesel
49:09
mechanic. Big dies.
49:10
OK. In in in Yorkton, which is a
49:12
city right, right close to us here.
49:15
That's a good guy to have when the bus breaks down.
49:17
Exactly. We've been there.
49:20
He has fixed the bus. Yep.
49:22
On the South. Right on.
49:23
Yeah, so. Right on.
49:24
Love it. Yeah, he brings, he brings
49:28
boiler suits with him or coveralls.
49:30
Yeah, and he can just. Jump right on.
49:32
He earns his rock'n'roll wings there for sure.
49:35
Oh, we all, we all do. Honestly, like everybody, like
49:39
Steve said, huge role to play, Yeah.
49:42
Absolutely, yeah. And what what's what's
49:44
Courtney's other roles in the band?
49:47
Banjo play a mandolin and then she does all the social media,
49:50
the website, all of that kind of stuff.
49:51
OK, OK, cool. Yeah.
49:53
Do you get her involved in the background vocals?
49:56
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah.
49:57
Background. Was she the one I was talking?
49:59
That I don't have my glasses. On yeah, it's OK.
50:01
So was she the one I was talking to?
50:02
That's right, via e-mail. Yep, that's right.
50:05
OK, cool, cool. Because she is.
50:06
She said said, you know, just e-mail this guy Adam.
50:09
I'm like, OK, cool. Yeah, so good job, Courtney for
50:11
setting it up. Yeah.
50:12
Thanks, Courtney. That's awesome.
50:14
Appreciate it yeah yeah, yeah. Roger Plate anything else you
50:19
anything else you guys want to talk about or share why we still
50:21
got some time I. Think we're good?
50:24
Yeah. OK.
50:26
That's fun, right? On lots.
50:27
Of fun like. Yeah.
50:29
Yeah, we're we'll look forward to doing it again when you guys
50:31
are going to release the album and go on your whatever tour you
50:34
got scheduled 1st and. Yeah.
50:37
Looking forward to talking to you guys again man, this has
50:39
been awesome. Your band is outstanding, your
50:41
look is outstanding. Love it man.
50:43
Right. Yeah, so keep kicking.
50:45
We always, yeah, we wrap up every show like this.
50:47
If, if #1 thank you for being on the show.
50:49
We appreciate it. We're going to do our best to
50:50
kind of help, help pimp you out a little bit more.
50:52
Absolutely. Not that you, not that you need
50:54
it. Your music rocks and you're
50:55
going to, you're going to do some great things.
50:57
So if you ever do come to Arizona or Illinois, look us
50:59
both up because we'll come to the show.
51:01
I'm in Arizona, Mike's in Illinois, so be mindful of that.
51:05
Yeah, when you're playing the big arena shows now, remember
51:07
what it gets Calm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
51:14
We'll, I'll come out and introduce the band.
51:15
I'll be the guy that introduces you before you go on stage.
51:17
Lemoyne wants me to do that on New Year's Eve.
51:20
I know he does. Yeah.
51:21
One of our one of our artists have been here once Mike MC the
51:23
show on New Year's Eve in Chicago.
51:24
So I'm. Going to try and make that
51:26
happen. Yeah, yeah, that'd be pretty
51:28
cool. Yeah.
51:29
So we wrap up every show like this.
51:31
If you're feeling suicidal, depressed, you know, or just
51:33
drop. Don't do it.
51:34
Just go. Go, go out for a run.
51:36
Go scream in a pillow. Go journal.
51:37
Go do something. Call somebody.
51:38
If you can't find somebody to talk to, you text 988.
51:40
Somebody's standing by and willing to have a conversation.
51:43
You right now, somebody does love you.
51:45
Somebody will miss you. And you don't want to leave a
51:47
hole in somebody else's heart because you just had to do
51:49
something stupid. So don't do it.
51:50
Be here tomorrow because everybody wants you to be here
51:53
tomorrow as do we for Chris and Mike, the Chris and Mike show
51:56
and the Steve and Adam from Gibson and company.
51:59
Thank you very much for for coming on, taking a listen to
52:01
the show, all the contents. Yeah, you'll get all the content
52:04
and stuff once we get everything edited down the air, the show
52:07
air in a couple weeks. We were on live on Twitch and
52:09
YouTube. So hopefully we got some
52:10
traction for you guys there until we talk to you again in
52:13
the new year. You guys have a a great
52:15
remaining 2025. Wish you the best of luck to
52:17
him. Thanks again for coming.
52:19
On man, absolutely. Thanks guys.
52:20
Thanks for having us. All right.
52:22
Love you brother. Love you too man.
52:24
Peace, guys. Don't leave yet.
52:27
Don't leave. Look at.
53:01
Till you see it, fight the battle.
53:05
That's you boss Wheel. Fight the battle.
53:08
But you boss Wheel. Who is his baby.
53:12
Till you see it. Oh yeah, listen to your.
54:32
Now you're turning come down here.
54:34
You haven't found solids in your sand.
54:38
You just bump fighting. Wait for the dead or.
54:44
When it's going to rave you? Ain't no creature we're playing
54:51
man. You just you quit on the
54:54
almighty day. You gotta dream who in your life
55:01
the people go in every day. Take your turn behind your eyes.
55:10
Feel the soul revolution now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
55:20
yeah, yeah. Take a moment.
55:24
Look at you. See them fight the battle until
55:28
you most clear. You gotta, you gotta.
55:57
You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.