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Hot Topics and Mail bag episode. It's gonna be a good one.
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Anywhere else. And alright, time for the hot
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topics. Before we dive in, have you ever
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seen Breaking Bad? I know it may be like 15 years
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later. On this yes of.
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Course. One of the best pieces of
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television ever. Yeah, I I'm rewatching it now
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with my girlfriend for the first time.
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What a show. Like she's loving it, right?
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So good. She loves it.
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She absolutely loves it. I like it's so good for diving
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into it. Like, wow, I'm in podcast mode.
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Before we were diving before we started watching it.
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Like she wanted to watch it in theory, but we just never got
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around to it. Anyway, at one point I was like,
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I mean, let's just do this, let's watch.
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And she's like, all right, so we started watching and we're just
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completely hooked right now. It's so good, so good.
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And it's just like, it's just as good as I remember it.
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It's only five seasons. Like the like the writers really
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wanted to make it quality. They want to make it drag it on
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and let the quality go down like we see with a lot of television
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shows and honestly just peak all the way through the casting
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perfect. They, I actually saw polls
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recently that said like they cast the people that were like,
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quote, UN quote, like nobody's like obviously Bryan Cranston is
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a huge actor, but. Well, he was on Malcolm in the
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Middle, yeah. Or like not he wasn't Leonardo
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DiCaprio type thing. No exactly.
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He also did mostly comedy like this was his first kind of like
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serious role and every other actor has prominent in this
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series is not like an actor known for anything else besides
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Breaking Bad, right? Like this was their big break
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and they said that they did that to make the show, like, more
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relatable and like more down to earth.
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Think it worked really well. And honestly, it's just it's a
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fantastic. If you haven't already seen it,
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no spoilers here, but go watch it.
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You'll thank us later and we can talk about Jesse and yeah.
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And a non podcast related thing that we can ask you guys to
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comment, what do you like more, Better Call Saul or Breaking
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Bad? And I've never seen Better Call
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Saul. Saul either.
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I feel like I do not want to admit that on live TV even.
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Though people tell us they love Better Call Saul, I think that
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we'll probably even watch it regardless after because you
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have to do this and I just want the last thing before we start.
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Literally as we were talking about this she just she just
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texted me. Wish we could be watching
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Breaking Bad right now. I love it alright.
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If you could recommend one show to the viewers though, before we
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get into it, like you're golden ticket, like everybody's gotta
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watch this one show. It could be mainstream even, and
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it doesn't matter. Oof.
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I mean, like, I'm trying to be kind of cool and original on
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this one. Yeah.
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I don't know. Do you have one that just comes
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to mind, like, right away? I mean, the movie would be
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Miracle on Ice, the Disney version, so let's just get that
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out of the way. At the recommend one piece of TV
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I'm in. Breaking Bad is up there,
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honestly, for sure. To me, I feel like everybody
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would love Ted Lasso, feel everybody would love to hear
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like. I've never seen the bear but Ted
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losses. You gotta watch the bears.
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So good I. Will I'll watch the bear I'm.
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Trying to think of something longer like older but off the
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top off the top of the Dome. I asked the question even have
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my answer already. But if you have a recommendation
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let us know the discord. Let us know the YouTube
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comments. I'm honestly looking for new
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shows to start itself. Something I haven't seen, a lot
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of TV that I have not seen so. I'm going to think about it as
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the episode goes on and hopefully by the end of it, I
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could you call me out if I can't come up with one and then I'll
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yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll try. All right, so without further
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ado, our hot topics. Let's start off with the goalie
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of the Minnesota Wild, who I just dropped.
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But is he still worth holding? We're talking about yes, Spur
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Wolstat. All right, I I'll just start us
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off here because to be honest, I we're in a deep league and I
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still dropped them and I'm fully aware that he may go on an
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absolute tear again. To be fair, they've been dealing
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with some injuries recently, but he's been clearly beaten out, at
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least as far as quality goes by Phillip Gustafson for like the
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past month. But it's still in his arsenal
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that he can beat top tier teams. And it was really scary to draw
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them, especially because I'm definitely not loaded up with
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the goalie decision. Like I got Brandon Bussey and
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Stuart Skinner and I dropped the Walstead.
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So we'll see how that goes. But to me I think he is drawable
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in most leagues. If you're in like a 10 or 8 man
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league, for sure once you get into 12.
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Depends on how valuable goalies are, but for us I felt it was
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the right thing to do. It's so tough, right, because
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this is a guy that like was impeccable when he started
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getting more playing time and we said like, obviously on this
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show we said sell high, sell high, sell high.
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Like he had four shutouts in six games.
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It was ridiculous. Both him and Gus were going
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back-to-back with shouts, shouts.
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It was like who can play even better?
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And we knew Gus was the guy. I think we kind of said that
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unless he completely fell off, which was hasn't happened.
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He he got paid. He was the main starter whilst
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it is the future obviously, but maybe the future is now, right?
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Really doesn't look like it. Do I think that Walstead still
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has good quality in him? Absolutely I do.
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Do I think Minnesota still one of the best teams?
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Absolutely I do. This rough stretch is rough
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though, and especially if he's getting potentially only one
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star on any given week and there's guys on waivers like,
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you know, Stuart Skinner or some leaks have Tristan Jarry on
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waivers that you know are going to get the quality, like the
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quantity is starts even if the quality might not be there.
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I'm taking those guys over Walstead right now any day,
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right? But then you think about it long
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term, like who do I want on my team, the playoffs if I foresee
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you all said bouncing back? It's a tough conversation
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because maybe he gets one game or two games during the week,
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but they're like, you know, 9 twelves and they're winning so.
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Yeah. It's tough.
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I don't. I don't fault you for dropping
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walls at all. I think in a lot of leagues he's
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droppable right now and you have decisions to make in a really
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deep goalie league. It's it's hard to drop him when
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you know that he's on such a good team.
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And what he did earlier this season, like somebody asked me
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Walstead or Saros rest of season and I was leaning Walstead.
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Interesting. Yeah, because I don't really
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believe in Nashville. But you know what?
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Sarah is getting so many games and he's still playing like,
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well, right now. But do I expect it to last?
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No. But the quantity might just be
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so much more than you know what was getting that makes it
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valuable unless you're only counting like wins, you know,
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save percentage goes against the average thing in the long term.
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One startup Wall said should be able to make up for the
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difference in quantity. But it's it's bad.
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Like if you're walking owner like I, it's really difficult.
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I don't fault you for dropping. Like if you're asking for
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permission, I'm giving you permission.
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Jake is also giving you permission.
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He took his own advice. He did it, just have to
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reevaluate expectations that this is also just a reminder of
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why it's so important to, you know, take advantage of the cell
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highs when you can because it feels so good in the moment, but
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the falloff feels so bad after it happens.
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Yeah. And like, I tried to sell.
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I did. But did you like not hard enough
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hard enough? I mean, like it just cuz what
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was happening is that it still looked like a tandem and that he
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was just getting ridiculous numbers.
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So it did scream unsustainable to be honest.
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But I felt like dropping him was OK because I don't think that
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that many people are looking to pick him up right now.
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It's a really hard thing. That's another reason why I
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think it's OK to draw up. And honestly, I do believe in
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Minnesota, especially with the body injury, things are a little
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bit more murky than they were beforehand, right?
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I mean. Exact as well.
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Yeah, like it's a tough situation for them right now,
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but they should bounce back by the end of the year and
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definitely keep an eye on how things are going because if they
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could still do the back-to-back, I mean, Wall State could turn it
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around at any time. But for now, it's OK to drop.
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That's where I'm at. Goalies are always so elite
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dependent because the position itself fluctuates so often.
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Like if she's like, you know, Monday could be this and then
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Wednesday it could be a completely different scenario
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because of, you know, somebody get to start, they weren't
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supposed to or they get a shout when they weren't supposed to
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and the whole situation is flipped.
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So we're trying to keep a pulse on everything.
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And right now the pulse on Wall Street is bad.
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I'm not it's not a must drop in my opinion, because I do think
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in the future, like there's quality there, but also like
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it's just hard to hold. Again, when you once started is
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not even a good one. So I don't fault you guys if you
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have good options on waivers. Yeah, all right.
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Speaking of let's go to the Columbus Blue Jackets.
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Yeah honestly, it's kind of like that's that's me with walls net.
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So I kinda I totally get where you're coming from here of the
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Columbus Blue Jackets. We're gonna talk about both here
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we got jet grieves. Nothing beats objectives holiday
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unless it's Elvis MERS Lykins, the other goalie on that team.
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So I I'll I'll just give my little profound Che here where I
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think that it's obviously looking concerning, but keep in
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mind it's a small sample size for Grieves, so try not to be
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too upset about it. That being said, I mean, I can't
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just jump out of here and say that Elvis is the guy to own
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100% now, but definitely looking more like that than it was.
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So look at how the own discrepancy is right.
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Grieves is own in 60% of Yahoo leagues.
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All of this is owned in 8% of Yahoo leagues, which is crazy.
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So you'll I would say the first thing just right off the bat in
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a deep enough league, definitely pick up Elvis, but also I would
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not necessarily be dropping grieves.
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Where are you? Where are you on this?
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Well, this hits home right? Because I have two goalies on my
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roster. We plan a deep goalie league
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where there's no clear starters available on waivers.
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MY2 goalies are Jet, Greaves and Asker of.
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So first of all, week 15, I got two starts combined out of two
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of them. I didn't even hit my goalie
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minimum. I had to make a pick up just to
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get one goalie start just to hit the minimum starts because the
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coaching change really changed things for for Greece and he was
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not playing bad. He's been one of the best
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goalies in terms of like goals saved above expected this year.
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And you look at the other goalies on this list, and it's
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studs. And on the ice, he's actually
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been very solid, too. Like, yeah, like, it's not just
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a glazing Buxted. Like, Columbus has not been
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winning as many games as they should lead to the coach getting
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fired. Was that on the goalie?
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You absolutely was not on the goalie.
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No matter how many third period chokes they've had it.
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He's been playing very solid. It was the team in front of him.
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Right now, this coaching change has brought new life to
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Columbus. We're all happy about it.
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And yet it's Elvis, who did not start for, like, 14 straight
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games, who's been getting all the start since his back.
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So what that tells me, first of all, is just give should have
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been playing 14 games straight first of all, right?
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Like it should have been more of a split.
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I was foreshadowing more of like a 60 to 4070 thirty type of
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vibe. But the new coach is giving life
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to all the guys that were really upset under under evison.
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Like Mrs. Lykins has been getting all the stars.
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Ken Johnson playing 20 minutes a night.
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He was like getting 4th 4th line minutes so I'm concerned.
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As a Jet Graves owner, I I've done this before.
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I had Elvis and then I got screwed because Jake groups took
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over when I had Elvis on my roster.
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Now was the opposite. I'm not dropping Jet Greaves
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right now. I wouldn't either.
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I'm not dropping Jet Greaves, but I'm definitely concerned.
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I think it could play out into a 5050 split eventually.
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That's what they were doing for the yeah, whole season to start.
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I also think that there's always a chance that Elvis gets traded.
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And maybe that's why they're, you know, playing him more.
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But it's also like super correlated with the new coach,
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right? New coach came in, Elvis gets
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all the starts. Old coach hated Elvis.
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So I think you monitor this. I think next week we'll have a
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lot more data and if Elvis gets two out of three games this this
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week, I'm going to start being like, alright, you know, just
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gives what I played one out of lost seven games.
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It's not looking good. And then you might have to
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consider making the swap. But as of right now, as a
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Grieves owner, I'm not, I'm not thrilled, but I'm not cutting
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just yet. So I'm still holding but I'm I'm
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not happy about it. It's different.
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It's a different situation for bonus on Columbus as a coach
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versus on Dallas or Winnipeg. Because he had Jake Aldinger,
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sure thing #1 and he had Connor Hellebuyck, the surest thing of
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#1 except for this one, which is kind of weird.
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But anyways. I'm just so confused because
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when you look at the situation has been playing well, like you
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look at it's not like he was sucking and then the coach got
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changed like so the coach must have given it back to the vet
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quote UN quote and like is your attempt to shine.
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You haven't played in a while. Let's see what you can do here.
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They're winning games, so he's keeping it rolling.
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If Elvis gets shelled in one of these games, they'll probably go
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back to grieves and then see what happens there.
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But right now it's just hard to get a pulse on without being,
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you know, in the bedroom when with bonus SO and knowing his
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insider thoughts, you know you have a personal relationship
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with the guy. Talking to him.
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And obviously only people in this bedroom and personal
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relationships with him so. Alright, OK, let's move on to
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the next one. It's kind of a similar vibe over
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here. We got the Seattle cracking
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goalie situation, primarily Joey Decord.
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He's only started one of their last four games last week.
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So is Grubauer the starter now? I mean, to me, I still think
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it's records net. I kind of want to try to compare
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these situations where I would say, you know, Mrs. Lakins is
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Grubauer and Grieves is decored. I feel like that's kind of the
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parallel that they're being supplanted by the veteran
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starter, except with Columbus, it's a new coach.
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So I'd be more worried. No, not trying to not trying to
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ruffle your feathers over here. And I guess we're splitting
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feathers and. Split them.
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But honestly, I think, I think to me, I I'm pretty sound as the
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chord being started moving forward.
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But we'll see how it goes because Merkins is Mercedes.
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I think it's kind of a better goalie than Grubauer is, so.
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Yeah, I mean, and Josh is a joy, the core owner, so I wish she
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was here to give his take. But I I'd be way more nervous as
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a jet greener than enjoyed the coroner like Grubauer and Decor
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were splitting basically 5050 and then Odd came to
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back-to-back and they gave group our back-to-back starts for the
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first half of the back-to-back. So then the cord got the next
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one and then they went back to splitting 5050.
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So then he ended up playing only one out of four games, but in
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the middle there was a back-to-back that got inverted
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basically. And what that means is group
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hours later is the last four. And if you look in the group
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hour chat where if you listen to recent episodes, I'm in the
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group hour chat, if you Scroll down, you see Kevin.
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And from a few days ago, that was me trying to convince people
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to group as a cell high or not worth rostering compared to the
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other guys were being mentioned. And I still feel the same way.
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I think this is kind of like a red flag and do not buy into the
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hype of Phillip Grubauer. Yes, he could be good, but at
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best this is a 5050 and at worst I think Joey Decord gets the
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edge. I'm talking from the perspective
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of from Jacquard so. Yeah, I think it's gonna.
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Is it Accords not. Yeah, I'm not reading into this
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much. And as soon as we start to see
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group our falter, I think they'll just start giving more
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starts to decorate if he's playing well, which she has been
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playing well and group hours starting to falter.
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So as we speak, you might be listening to this and of course,
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maybe started two in a row and you're like, OK, it's last
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week's news or something, but I'm not worried As the card
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owner, you're just gotta hang Pat.
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But the realistic situation right now is they might be
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splitting 5050. Do I think group hours an
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immense option rest of season? No.
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Seattle been so hot right now. This is not going to last.
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So you stream him and that's pretty much it.
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Like I'm not putting that much stock into Group Power.
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I'd rather have Elvis than Group Power if you gave me the choice.
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Same that's what I'm saying. Like though I mean putting it
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aside, like I feel like Elvis is more of a threat to grieves than
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group hours decored. Absolutely.
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But yeah, the situations are different.
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Like Columbus had a coaching change that led to 1 goalie
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getting all the starts now. So you're kind of like, that's
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way more of a, of a like a prominent information than just
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them splitting 5050 and somebody getting an extra start because
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of a back-to-back. That's where I'm at too.
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OK, sticking with more goalies on this one.
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It's very goalie heavy. Hot topic week we have of the
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New Jersey Devils. One other two Jacob derivative
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names. It's funny, they got Jacob and
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Jake and then and then the Hobbs of Jacob and Jacob.
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Yeah, it's a it's a popular names.
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Yeah, it's a popular. Yeah, the Jake derivatives are
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pretty popular around the NHL. I seemingly missed my calling
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but I love the podcast. Happier.
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You're one of the top 2 hosts in bigger management so.
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OK, the fellow Jacob Marks. Chickens allow myself to say
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that. That's very gracious.
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Jacob Markstrom of the New Jersey Devils, is he good now?
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I am not buying into much yet, but I think that the the whole
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hoopla of Jake Allen taking so many starts from him that that's
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been going on all year. So it's I guess more serious
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than hoopla has kind of, you know, I think that that's going
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to sooner than later be on the back burner is going to be
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Markstrom's net. He's their starter.
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He's supposed to be their starter.
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Alan has been an OK. Starter in the past, but
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Markstrom's really an excellent goalie.
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Went on his game. It's going to be inconsistent,
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but I still think New Jersey should be a lot better moving
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forward and Markstrom should be there guy.
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So is he good now is kind of the the headline we're trying to get
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at. I would say it's gonna be
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better, but it's definitely not gonna be fantastic percentages.
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I'm going to expect saves and wins and it'll be more
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consistent starters like he'll start more games than he has
20:32
moving forward. I think the question is less so
20:35
about the amount of starts he gets and more so about the
20:38
quality of the start and how good New Jersey is crazy because
20:41
some situations it's, you know, the goalie drives a lot of the
20:46
value for his his self. And there's other situations
20:49
where the goalie is perfectly correlated with the success of
20:52
the team. It feels like if the team is at
20:55
80%, the goalie will be at 80%. If the team is at 100 is at 100
20:58
team at 5050. If you don't worship is one of
21:00
those goalies. When the team is down bad, he's
21:02
down bad. When the team is winning, he
21:04
looks so good. And right now I think the New
21:08
Jersey Devils, they're a hot topic in themselves.
21:10
We could talk about them for like a million episodes if we
21:12
could, but I do expect it is a lot of episodes.
21:16
I'm sure the fans would love that.
21:17
But I think the New Jersey Devils around to come up and I
21:20
think that will correlate strongly with Markstrom's
21:22
success. Do I think he's the best goalie
21:25
out there right now? No, I think he's like a goalie
21:28
that can hover around slightly over 900.
21:30
I'd be happy with that on a goalie that should be winning
21:33
games, right? The New Jersey Devils are a team
21:34
that going into the season, we were like they could be a Cup
21:37
contender. Now everything has gone wrong
21:38
for them this season where injuries and on the ice play,
21:42
but I think better days are ahead.
21:43
I keep saying it, I I'm saying with conviction guys that
21:46
they're out of a playoff spot right now, but at some point
21:48
they will go on and run with their winning games and trying
21:50
to make the playoffs. And I think Markstrom will be
21:53
pretty valuable when that happens.
21:55
So if he's on your waivers, keep an eye on him.
21:59
I think he's like a top 20 goalie right now.
22:01
If I'm being conservative, like between 18 and 23 is kind of
22:05
where I see him. Um, and that's, that's where I
22:10
have in my head the value right now.
22:13
Yeah, because you're looking at his stats on the year and he's
22:15
like way. Below that, it's not good.
22:17
It's really not good. But you know, whatever happened
22:19
and you look at, you look forward, that's kind of what you
22:21
have to do. Yeah, I mean, I got Skinner on
22:25
my team right now, who's who's been decent as of late.
22:28
I'm taking marks from over him for sure.
22:30
You know, really. Yeah.
22:31
Yeah, I, I would say so because I feel like the ceiling is super
22:35
high now when you get into like the John Gibson conversation,
22:39
like I'm going Gibson there, I think.
22:43
But you see Saros. I think I'm gonna go.
22:47
I think I'm gonna go Markstrom. What about this one?
22:51
I'm going to go Markstrom as well.
22:53
I see it though, like I see where you're coming from.
22:55
You talking about like really good goalies who could kind of
22:57
be difference makers for their for their team versus yeah, I
22:59
don't want to call them less good.
23:00
Goalie awesome teams. Yeah, exactly.
23:03
That's closer to the bottom team.
23:05
What about Spencer Knight? Because I'm going to go Marks
23:08
from there for sure. I feel like it's.
23:09
The same, I'm going off the Dome.
23:10
I'm not looking at the numbers right now, but my gut is telling
23:13
me Markstrom, just because I think New Jersey should be able
23:15
to win more games than Chicago rest of season.
23:18
There's more talent. I'm more confident that they can
23:20
go on a run. I think, you know, what we saw
23:22
with Knight and Bedard before the Bedard injury is are they
23:27
that we're not going to see ahead of us basically is what my
23:30
my gut is telling me. So.
23:31
Yeah, I guess something's gonna be good.
23:33
But yeah, night, night was on an absolute terror.
23:37
So yeah, I mean, to me, I think the way to put it is you're
23:40
taking a better if you're taking a goalie on a team that's really
23:48
good and he's a really good goalie, obviously that's like
23:50
the best of the best. I'm taking all of those guys
23:52
over marks like the Vasilevskiy, etc.
23:55
And I'm also probably taking them over a good goalie on a
23:57
less good team. That's where I'm at with it.
24:00
It's going to be tough to name all of them.
24:02
But yeah, low mid tier starter is what I'm expecting rest of
24:06
the season and he's he's been like worse than some backups for
24:12
a good chunk of what we've seen so far.
24:14
I think it's looking up. So.
24:16
Yeah, OK, last but not least, not gonna focus on goalies only
24:21
here, but I think I, I think this is a good one overall.
24:26
The Buffalo Sabres are a hot topic in and of themselves.
24:29
I think we could spend 5 million episodes on them.
24:32
Particularly we love the apping guys.
24:35
We we go into these episode like alright, well keep it around an
24:37
hour. Next thing you know talking
24:38
about for like 2 hours or an hour and a half and it's.
24:41
Sounds good. That's it.
24:42
And sometimes we're like talking before and we're like let's just
24:45
start the episode like we're talking about hockey.
24:47
So that's it, that's it. So come out guys.
24:52
I know there are other things too, but it's definitely.
24:55
It's Breaking Bad the phone call.
25:00
Yeah, so the Buffalo Sabres, I mean, it's it's interesting.
25:04
I guess do you want to start? We could talk about the team and
25:07
then more so the fantasy assets in particular and where we think
25:10
they're going. So right now the Sabers are
25:15
playing, I think way above what anyone thought coming into this
25:18
season, right? Like it's not even close that
25:21
they nobody thought they would be nearing a playoff position in
25:24
the second-half of the season. And they're they're in the last
25:26
wild card spot right now. So that's pretty cool to see.
25:32
I've thought in years past that they actually had a good Rosser
25:35
and are not performing. And finally I'm like, I've given
25:39
up on them and they're like decent.
25:41
So great timing. But look, winning record.
25:45
They went on like a 10 game win streak not long ago.
25:49
To me. I still don't think they're
25:51
going to be making the playoffs. Like the Leafs are behind them
25:53
in the standings. I expect that to change.
25:55
Florida's behind them in the Atlantic also.
25:58
They should be. The Atlantic is a really loaded
26:01
division, so I think it's going to be really difficult for them
26:04
to come near the playoffs. But will they be last again?
26:09
I mean, I think, I don't know. I, I think that what's going to
26:12
happen is that the fantasy players are still going to be
26:15
good for fantasy and then the team is just going to start
26:18
losing. That's where I see things.
26:20
It's tough, right? Because we talk about this
26:22
division, the Atlantic, being so wide open.
26:24
I think right now three teams at the top.
26:27
Ohe I'm about to sneeze. Plus morning.
26:31
Blessing. Hopefully that didn't Pierce
26:36
anybody's ears, but I think there's three teams at the top
26:40
of the Atlantic that are starting to pull away.
26:41
I think Tampa, Detroit and Montreal are showing themselves
26:44
to be stronger teams ahead of the pack.
26:47
Rebel, right? After this Boston, right?
26:48
And I think Boston is one of the worst business division.
26:51
I expect somebody to overtake them, right?
26:54
Buffalo has been so good. I think they've won like 14 of
26:56
the last 16 games. Maybe I'm stopped.
27:00
I missing game 17 and 18 while you guys are listening to this.
27:03
But they've been so fun. I feel like they've done it.
27:08
They've done it surprisingly. If you like, this should not
27:11
have happened. And yet it has happened.
27:14
All the fantasy players are are, you know, delivering tape has
27:17
been a monster. Yeah, but we did hear rumors
27:19
earlier in the season, like Alex talked was on the trade block.
27:22
They don't wanna pay him what he wants, like a campaign like
27:25
deal. He's not going to get a campaign
27:26
like deal unless he starts turning it up, but I don't think
27:30
that's happening. UPS is on the trade block now.
27:33
You know, Alex Line is back. Maybe something happens there,
27:35
but he's been really solid. So the team is coming together.
27:38
The team is having fun. We're talking, we see like
27:40
Rasmus Dahlin be like, I have not had this much fun playing
27:42
hockey or coming to the rink in forever.
27:44
So that's actually something that you can see like on the
27:47
stat sheet or whatnot. But it really does impact the
27:50
players morale and their performances, right?
27:52
When you're happy to go to the ice, you're happy to be playing
27:54
hockey, you're motivated to win. So I'm actually like encouraged
27:59
by this situation. Now, they do have injuries and
28:01
they're dealing with that. But I do also expect them to
28:04
slow down. I think they're gonna be in the
28:05
mix. I think it's gonna be a tough
28:06
battle between them. Florida, Ottawa I think is gonna
28:10
give a run at it, so I expect them to be on the bubble.
28:13
Maybe they missed out on the playoffs by two points like
28:15
Columbus did last season, but I don't think they're going to be
28:19
like the last place bottom dwellers that we've seen in the
28:21
past. I think they're think they've
28:22
overcome, you know, that hump, let's say.
28:26
Yeah, over the last two weeks, they have like basically half
28:32
their roster has averaged more than .7 points per game.
28:35
That's like really, really solid.
28:37
And some of these guys are. Yeah, exactly.
28:40
I mean, you, you know, you have tagged kind of running the show.
28:42
He's at 1.86 points per game. That's ridiculous .86 power play
28:47
points also. So that's like truly, truly
28:50
exceptional. Ryan McLeod, though, he kind of
28:53
goes under the radar. Josh done.
28:56
I mean, Norris is down injured. Mattias Samuelsson, I mean, who
28:59
knows him besides Kevin? Like, you know, I mean, for
29:03
fantasy, like, he's been irrelevant.
29:05
Although IRL he's always been a decent defenseman.
29:07
So they're getting production everywhere.
29:09
And you know what team is a good team?
29:11
It's just that I think that the problem is that the Atlantic is
29:14
so loaded. The top three, you mentioned
29:16
Lightning, Red Wings, Canadians. I think that they're they will
29:19
make the playoffs and I wouldn't be surprised if they are the
29:22
top. They are in the top 4, all those
29:26
three teams. The other team I think it's
29:28
going to be there is Florida. So there's no way to meet a
29:31
Buffalo is gonna beat out any of these teams.
29:33
At that point, you gotta compete with the Leafs, the Senators,
29:38
and then I think they're better than the Bruins.
29:41
So look, as far as fantasy goes, obviously, obviously some of
29:48
these numbers are ridiculous. 1.86 is not sustainable.
29:50
He's going to get down to like 1.2.
29:52
But that's awesome. I don't think Samuelson is gonna
29:55
continue being his fire as he's been points.
29:58
Don't. Don't put it out of the
29:59
question. Amazon is an owner.
30:01
I've seen the. Future, yeah.
30:03
So they're clearly doing good things for this team, but
30:05
overall, I think that they're gonna finish.
30:09
They're going to finish out of the playoff position but not
30:13
last in the division. I mean, let's talk fantasy
30:16
though, like all these assets you just mentioned, given how
30:19
hot they've been, are you looking to cash in basically and
30:23
get guys like you have? Sage is always just a great
30:26
fantasy player, but with what he's doing right now, like you
30:29
can potentially consider him as a sell high, right?
30:31
Like would you flip like a Tech Thompson for like a Jason
30:34
Robertson type of player? I feel like I would do that.
30:36
I feel like that's something that you have to consider.
30:39
Yeah, you're, you're saying you'd rather have Robertson
30:40
coming back. Yeah.
30:42
Or like, you know, you could potentially get a Jack Hughes
30:44
right now. I would be really looking
30:45
through that. Yeah, me too.
30:47
I mean, you gotta aim really, really high with this one.
30:52
And I think that both both those names I do agree.
30:55
But then once you get like, I mean, we were talking about
30:59
would you would you rather Tage Thompson or Drake Batherson
31:03
tasking you this for a reason? OK, So would you rather Tage
31:05
Thompson or William Linton? Nielander, Tage Thompson.
31:08
OK. So you're totally confident in
31:12
saying that? Than most people and I still do
31:15
things that by law, he was my buy low pick for a long time
31:19
because he just got zero points. But I've reevaluated, I guess my
31:23
take on him. And now this new injury does
31:25
scare me because it's a re aggravated groin injury.
31:27
So there's always an extra piece there that I'm a low risk
31:31
manager. Like I don't like taking two big
31:33
swings when it's going to cost me a lot.
31:35
Like if I could get another for cheap, I'd love to have him on
31:37
my roster. But for a guy that I know it's
31:39
gonna be delivering on me consistently.
31:40
Like to me, it might be a little rich if you're more of a risky
31:43
manager and you want to play for that upside.
31:45
Like upside was championships. I'm all about that upside, but
31:48
I'm also not willing to take big swings and I'm already in a good
31:51
position, if that makes sense. How about?
31:54
How about a Matthew to Chuck? I mean we're talking about
31:57
Nylander and not. Sorry, age for Matthews to
32:02
Chuck. I'd rather have Matthew could
32:04
Chuck. That could be a fun one.
32:05
Yeah, that could be 0 sample size I.
32:09
Think existing back is on full force yet?
32:11
Like you can absolutely get that done I think.
32:14
Yeah, that could be a really fun idea.
32:16
So I mean, there's definitely moves you can make here because
32:19
he's playing above his pay grade, but he is obviously the
32:21
star on this team, the other guys and then we'll move on.
32:24
To the surrounding question. We gotta talk about them.
32:26
Yeah, for sure. I mean, if you look at this,
32:29
their whole team has been on fire.
32:30
But can you sell Mattias Samuelsson?
32:33
Probably not. No, no.
32:34
But I'm talking about like Josh Norris, Jason Zucker, Josh Own,
32:37
like all these guys. You can sell some of.
32:40
Them I mean, you can try if you're in a deep leader has very
32:44
little depth on the waiver wire. Like I think these guys have
32:46
more pulled there, but these are not guys that have like name
32:48
value trade pull. These are guys that you hold on
32:51
your roster and you stream them when you can and they become
32:54
potential holes on your team. And I think these guys will be
32:56
valuable for the rest of the season because I think these are
32:59
all the pieces that are part of that power play.
33:01
One that's a pretty decent power play.
33:02
Like it's not anything crazy, but it's one of the worst ones.
33:05
And I really do think that these guys are gonna have, you're
33:07
gonna see them on our waiver show week in, week out, like
33:09
they're gonna hover between 30 and 40% and they'll be on the
33:13
waiver show because they're just guys that are exposed to the top
33:16
players playing top minutes. And I think these guys are
33:19
valuable. Yeah.
33:22
Are you trying to cash in Alex Tucker?
33:24
I think that's like probably the.
33:25
Best always trying to cash in Alex Tuck.
33:27
Yeah, that's probably the best name that I wanna sell.
33:30
Well, that that you can sell, that I want to sell.
33:33
Like Ryan Mcleod's been on an absolute terror over the last
33:36
year. Nobody's.
33:36
Buying. You could sell the same with Bo
33:38
and Byram, although he's actually a good player in his
33:40
own right. But anyways, yeah.
33:42
But Talk is the one that actually carries some name value
33:45
that's been playing out of his mind recently over the last two
33:50
weeks. That's a really good one.
33:52
And I think you could aim somewhat respectively high.
33:55
I mean, like, yeah, like a top top Someone Like, You know,
34:01
hovering at like .8 points per game that should be in one point
34:04
per. Game I would sell tuck for
34:05
Nylander. If somebody would do that, I
34:07
would. I would tuck plus for Nylander.
34:10
You'd be surprised. That was it, yeah.
34:13
I think you'd be surprised about like how little people around me
34:15
longer because, you know, he was bad, then he got hurt, then he
34:19
came back, was good for two games, then he got hurt again.
34:21
So like if the other manager is struggling, we don't know when
34:23
he's coming back. Like Tuck and a little something
34:26
something could get it done. If you could do that absolutely,
34:29
like cash in completely, that would be a huge, huge deal in my
34:34
opinion. And what about, I'll name one
34:37
more and then we'll move on. And what about Ryan Leonard?
34:41
Would you take Ryan Leonard over Tuck Press this?
34:43
No. I I take Tuck.
34:45
You're taking tuck. OK, so you're not aiming?
34:47
Too low, OK. OK, maybe at Dylan Larkin,
34:50
actually, who's been knocking? Too high.
34:53
OK, if you can, if you can get Larkin for Alex talk.
34:57
That's a fleece. Yeah, well, if we're talking in
34:59
the Neil under conversation, I mean like you got named
35:03
something like Larkin too. What about you guys?
35:06
I would take Matthew is for sure.
35:07
OK, let's talk. No matter what, you know who's
35:10
healthy on this team, Like he's barely gets power play one.
35:13
I'm treating him for a guy that's going to be on power play
35:15
one that can get consistent production.
35:17
Like you could maybe get a drink, Batherson.
35:19
Like we just talked about Drake Batherson.
35:21
Like Drake Batherson is not necessarily by low, but Alex
35:24
Stuck is definitely still high. So yeah.
35:28
Cool. Alright, let's move on to our
35:32
mailbag questions. I just want to quickly say How I
35:36
Met Your Mother great show. Yeah, I think that's one of
35:39
those. Like I gotta recommend that to
35:40
anybody who hasn't seen it. I don't know, this may be
35:44
controversial. I would take How I Met Your
35:46
Mother over friends any day. I really hope my girlfriends not
35:48
listening to this. She will be mad at me, but she
35:51
also loves How I Met Your Mother.
35:52
But like, I know friends fans are diehard friends.
35:55
I just think How I Met Your Mother mothers definitely
35:57
funnier. Yeah.
35:59
What do you? Think it's funny because that
36:00
you mentioned that I actually watched the 1st 2 episodes of
36:04
How I Met Your Mother recently with a with Helen, my girlfriend
36:07
because she's never seen it. So I'm like this is I wanted to
36:11
see first of all, if it holds up because I've done watches over
36:13
the years but it hasn't been for a few years.
36:15
I think how much your mother always holds up, although it can
36:18
be maybe a little cringe depending on how you feel about
36:20
like Ted Mosby. But I still think it's a great
36:23
show. I laugh a lot.
36:24
So it's just so hard watching a show that has like, a laugh
36:27
track now, just like the only thing I can hear when I watch
36:29
these old sitcoms. I'm like the laugh track, laugh
36:32
track. It's always there.
36:33
Yeah. So that's what The Office is so
36:35
good. Modern Family too, right?
36:37
Yeah, Modern Family is exceptional.
36:39
Great. Modern Family is amazing.
36:41
So I would say I would say Modern Family, How I Met your
36:44
mother. Those are my 2 recommendations.
36:46
OK, OK, the mail bag. Let's begin.
36:51
But these are fun. Yeah, not too many.
36:53
We got Kit Kat through. Yeah, Kit Kat Crew three.
36:57
That's a tongue twister. Exactly.
36:59
Yeah, if I want to try, I wanna see Kit Kat through three.
37:04
Kit Kat crew tree. Ohhhhh.
37:06
Yeah, that's not telling you. That's interesting.
37:09
Fast Kit Kat crew 3. Kit Kat Crew 3 Jake's.
37:14
Eyes twitching right now and actually trying to say.
37:16
That I, I think, I think I malfunctioned while I was uh,
37:20
yeah. RK Kate Cat Crew 3 on Discord
37:22
asked what are your thoughts on Cadre's value rest of season
37:24
with a potential trade coming? I think with the Anderson move,
37:28
it's way certain that Kadri is gonna be on the move.
37:32
So yeah, I mean, that's definitely fair to just say that
37:35
a trade will happen. So I mean, look like this
37:41
country is the type of player to me.
37:43
We were talking about Trocheck and Panarin on our recent news
37:47
in Would You Rather episodes as guys who have succeeded
37:50
everywhere they've gone, and that's for IRL and fantasy.
37:55
Nice, nice hoodie over there. So to me, the way I see this is
38:00
that Kadri's value where he goes this season is not really gonna
38:06
be that destination dependent because I think no matter where
38:10
he is, he's gonna go down in value.
38:13
And that's kind of that kind of sucks to be honest.
38:16
And then? Right now, don't know if you've
38:19
seen what charger has been doing recently, but it's it's $8 and
38:22
dollar sign. Yeah, let's check it out because
38:24
he went on a tear somewhat recently.
38:26
He was. Offered to buy him, then he
38:28
went. He popped off for like a month
38:30
and he's been awful. Like people are asking if they
38:33
can drop Nazem Kadri and if you're an attention you probably
38:35
can. If you're in a lot of 12 team
38:37
leagues, it's it's tough depending on who's available on
38:39
waivers. My take is that we said this
38:41
earlier that his situation can't get better than Calgary because
38:46
on Calgary there's nobody else takes shots.
38:47
That's why Nazim Kari shot volume is always so high.
38:50
He's on the he has the best deployment there.
38:53
And if he gets traded, the odds are is deployments going to get
38:55
worse. Right?
38:56
Like Athena wants him, is gonna want him for to be the two seat.
38:59
That means not necessarily power play one and second line
39:02
deployment. He's definitely not gonna be
39:04
taking as many shots in my opinion because there's probably
39:06
going to be better talent around him that should be taking shots.
39:10
But now he's been so bad that you're like maybe a change of
39:13
scenery and is like an influx and potential improvement.
39:18
And that's kind of where I'm at. I don't think a trade is gonna
39:21
happen until we get closer to the trade deadline unless things
39:24
heat up. We'll talk about it on the
39:26
podcast. If that happens.
39:27
As of right now is like pretty quiet.
39:28
The fact that Calgary made a move right now maybe means that
39:31
they're going to be open to selling in the very near future
39:34
instead of waiting till the three deadline.
39:36
But I'm looking forward to seeing where he ends up going.
39:40
I think it's, I think his value resets when he gets traded.
39:44
It might be worse, but he's not really doing much with the
39:47
deployment right now. Like the power play is not
39:49
anything special or one of the worst power plays in the league.
39:52
So you might be going to a better power play and get more
39:55
opportunities. I welcome the trade.
39:58
I think there's some destinations that could really
40:00
work out for him. Yeah, so let me explain what
40:02
happened when I tried to pronounce Kate Cat Crew Three.
40:04
I think my my entire system rebooted and I didn't realize
40:07
how bad Godric's been in the recent past.
40:10
This is abysmal. So compared to what you've seen
40:14
like over the last month, wherever he goes, he's gonna
40:17
average more than .15 points per game.
40:19
Is so bad, guys. That's.
40:21
Awful. So yeah.
40:23
So yeah. So I'd like to.
40:25
OK, I did it again, so I'd like to.
40:29
Though maybe that's. The first one was wild, so I'd
40:32
like to rewind on what I said at the beginning, but realistically
40:37
it's what you did last year. Let's say I was like a benchmark
40:41
for how good could be or you know, when you went on an
40:44
absolute terror when you played for the Avalanche a few years
40:46
ago. I don't think anywhere near
40:49
anything like that is happening. So it's going to get better than
40:52
it has been. But I, I feel like I don't want
40:56
to own him right now. I don't wanna trade for him.
40:58
And if I have him, like I don't know how high you can aim
41:02
because of how horrible it's been.
41:03
So it feels like you're kind of just stuck.
41:04
No, you're stuck. You can't bother you, but it's
41:06
either you cut or you hold and. Deep enough I don't think you
41:10
get cuz this shots are decent. In the hours you can't cut, but
41:15
in the league that's like 12 team standard that a lot of the
41:18
waiver guys you mentioned are pretty hot and he's the worst
41:21
player. There's a world where you just
41:23
cut him to be honest and you move on like Fedora fares
41:26
available like you maintenance, no brainer right?
41:28
It'll Fantilli is available. You do that into no-brainer.
41:31
So, um, I think you have to definitely know you're leaking.
41:35
It's about like, how deep is your waiver wire?
41:36
If there's good options, I'd be willing to make a swap, but I'm
41:40
also trying to hold to see what happens with the trade.
41:42
Why are you smiling so much? Is the next question.
41:45
OK. All right, let's get the next
41:47
question. All right.
41:50
Bordering on Discord has what's more likely, Jakey saving 2 out
41:55
of 10 McDavid penalty shots or Jakey scoring 5 on 10 on McDavid
42:00
in Nets. Little fache if there's context
42:05
to this, if you haven't listened to the bonus episode that we
42:08
released, I think it was like 2 weeks ago if you Scroll down, it
42:10
was like the only one that's not doesn't start like week 15 or
42:13
whatever. Like we record bonus episode.
42:15
It was full of laughs. If you haven't listened and you
42:17
need extra content, go listen to that.
42:19
But Jake was so confident that he would be able to stop.
42:22
Jake used to play ice hockey at a pretty high level, I will say,
42:25
and used to be a goalie and he was convinced that he could save
42:28
2 out of 10 McDavid penalty shots.
42:31
Now, Josh and I clearly, obviously have brain in our
42:34
heads and said that that's impossible and that he's too
42:37
confident. But we admired the confidence,
42:40
obviously. But that's just crazy, Jake.
42:42
You have way more odds of scoring 5 out of 10 and McDavid
42:45
and Nets than saving Mcdavid's penalty shot and you cannot
42:49
convince me otherwise. 100% that's not true.
42:53
It stopped. Now you're just committing to
42:54
the bit. OK, so let me ask you something.
42:59
Someone used to play soccer. OK, Could you?
43:02
Could you? And you played like kind of all
43:06
over the field, but you were not.
43:08
A goalie penalty shots are way different than hockey penalty
43:10
shots. Yeah.
43:11
So, so just just to say you playing the position you played,
43:15
which was someone who kicked the ball, not a goalie, could you
43:17
score more on? I don't know.
43:21
I wanna see big bullies, I wanna say.
43:23
Better check. He's like the only guy coming to
43:25
my mind right now. Better check.
43:27
But yes, better check. Sorry, cause he actually plays
43:29
hockey now too, did you know that?
43:31
I think that like he was like the cheque or something.
43:36
Yeah, that's it. So, OK, so Tibo Courtois, do you
43:42
think you could score more on Taboo?
43:45
Gave more of his shots. Which was not one of the best
43:47
goals in the world anymore. But yes, I could definitely
43:50
score more than I can say because I can't save anything.
43:52
I've never played goalie play. Being a soccer goalie is like a
43:55
whole different thing than being a hockey goalie.
43:57
Like, and also the penalty shots are way different.
43:59
It's just one take. A lot of, you know, you have to
44:02
pick the right side. There's a lot more luck in
44:03
there, whereas hockey is more reactive.
44:06
So I mean, maybe you just don't believe in your hockey skills as
44:09
a player at all, but I feel like you always wanted to be a
44:11
player, right? So I like playing games.
44:14
Never played goalie either. So basically the way I think
44:20
that you should look at this is that I won't spend too much time
44:24
on it, but basically if a player is playing against an NHL goalie
44:30
who I concede is better than me right now, as we said, all the
44:34
Jakes playing in the NHL, but I've committed to being a
44:37
podcaster. So if you're going up against an
44:42
NHL goalie, you're at like a good shooting percentage and
44:46
penalty, but if you have a 30%, meaning you're lucky if you
44:49
score 3 on 10. OK, so I was saying that in my
44:55
prime where I've played against professional players who took
44:58
like penalty shots on me, Jake, why was able to score?
45:03
I was able to score. I was able to save like let's
45:07
say 7 on 10. There's no way you're receiving
45:11
7:00 on. Yeah, it's not as crazy as you
45:13
think. If you thought you were like,
45:15
alright, the number 7, that's somebody I save.
45:17
It's not like it's like a whole thing when you're facing off
45:20
against the player anyway. There's simply no way that I
45:23
could truly make a compelling point, and I hope that this is
45:26
entertaining for all our listeners on Jodari especially,
45:30
who asked the question but one. That you're nuts.
45:33
No, at the end of the day, it's like it's not.
45:36
It's not easy for a player score on a penalty shot against a
45:41
somewhat experienced goalie like Scott Foster or David Arias.
45:45
Like the guys who like came up to play like from the Zamboni,
45:48
you know what I mean? Like how much do you think
45:51
McDavid would score on them? These are not NHL goalies.
45:54
You think he would score 10 on 10 penalty shots against Yes No.
45:59
If he doesn't because he missed the net.
46:01
That's it. They could miss the net on me
46:03
that counts as my as my saving that counts that.
46:08
Counts like gonna stand there and hope that he misses.
46:10
Well, even in an NHL game, if a player, he gives a penalty.
46:14
First of all, if a player. Has a penalty shot big David,
46:17
it's not like that or something, you know he's taking a penalty
46:22
shot on you. I'm just saying that it's it's
46:26
not as crazy as you think. So just saying he could miss the
46:30
net and it still counts. Shepard Commander on Discord
46:32
asked. Do you have any advice on how to
46:34
handle the wild two week long week 18 with the Olympic break
46:40
in the middle? Wow, I have the perfect advice
46:43
for you in a situation like this where you have to do is you have
46:47
to keep your ads for the second-half of the week because
46:50
not only are there injury possibilities at the Olympics,
46:54
but you also want the most information when you're reacting
46:57
to how the week is going. So when you make early game,
47:00
early week moves, it's mostly because you want to stack the
47:03
games played. You want to pick up guys that
47:05
have early game early week schedule so you can get those
47:08
games banked in and then have more information to see how you
47:10
can react in the second-half of the week with the Olympic break
47:13
is such a big factor that I want to keep all my ads to react to
47:18
the situation. What if one of the guys that
47:21
went to what if I use two ads in the in early in the week on
47:24
Monday because I want to stack those games and then I get 2
47:27
injuries at the Olympics and I only have one ad to replace
47:30
those guys. I'm gonna be in a tight
47:32
situation. So it may not be the best for
47:35
potentially winning week 18 specifically.
47:38
You might not get the most volume out of your ads, but I
47:41
think the smart thing to do is keep them.
47:43
Maybe use one early week and keep If you have three ads, use
47:46
one early week. Keep 2 for the second-half of
47:48
the week after the Olympic break or nearing there.
47:51
Or just keep most of them ever after that.
47:53
That's what I would do. I think is best practice because
47:55
first of all, you can have your playing with more information
47:58
and there's a big event happening.
48:00
So a lot of things can happen. People could get, you know,
48:03
maybe we have more trade rumors, maybe somebody gets hurt,
48:06
situations change. You wanna be able to react to
48:09
those events. Yeah, so I like it.
48:12
The only thing I'll add to that is if there is an event like
48:15
Heaven saying like someone gets injured and you know, that
48:17
there's a direct replacement for him on their NHL team.
48:22
You know, like let's say like someone's like a shoe in for
48:24
power play one. If this person gets injured,
48:27
then that's like a really good opportunity to pick someone up.
48:30
So it's really important to, as much as you can, hold and wait
48:34
till the second-half of that week.
48:36
But don't be shy to react to the news, especially if you think it
48:41
can help you moving forward, like beyond the week you're
48:44
currently playing. So Yep.
48:47
And, and the week before. Try to, if you can, hold some
48:52
ads for the end of that week so that going into week 18 you're
48:56
able to use them. You know what I mean?
48:59
Yeah, I would say Week 17 maybe make maybe make moves that are a
49:04
little more Week 18 oriented. So that's why maybe the
49:06
advantages of like the early week games in Week 18 while
49:10
having to use your Week 18 ads. Yes, all right.
49:13
Ninja Bob Dog on Discord asked what social circles were you
49:17
part of in high school? Jocks and nerds?
49:20
Artsy fartsy orders. I can't say the next one or
49:24
normies. What's floaters?
49:26
I don't know floaters. First of all, what was Josh now?
49:31
I did not know Josh during his high school years.
49:35
Didn't know. Actually, I did not know him
49:38
during high school, but he's kind of, like, described himself
49:41
as sort of a bookworm who also played sports.
49:46
Yeah. So like, I remember like one
49:48
time, like he was just telling me about like, I think he was
49:52
like, I don't know. He was just like saying like a
49:55
scenario. And he was like, but I didn't
49:57
even realize. I was just like reading up my
49:58
desk. Yeah, I heard something, you
50:00
know. So Josh, I would say, yeah, I
50:04
wouldn't say nerd, I wouldn't say jock, but it's kind of like
50:08
he had like a little bit of both in a way, you know what I mean?
50:12
Yeah. But like, it was definitely not
50:13
like the type of thing where like where he was like just one
50:19
of those. But I only met Josh later on.
50:20
I didn't know in high school, but that's like the way he
50:22
described it. How about you?
50:25
So for me in high school, so I grew up playing soccer.
50:29
I started playing soccer, I was like 3 years old and played
50:31
until I was 19 or 20. So high school was like peak
50:36
soccer career for me. And I was always one of the more
50:38
like athletic players, but all all my friends were nerds and I
50:43
was I did pretty well for myself in school as well.
50:45
Like I was known to be students, but I was never the did I get
50:48
the best grades out of my friend group?
50:50
I got great grades, but I was always like the the more sporty
50:53
ones. So I had like the respect of the
50:55
jocks, let's say that were bad at school, but like really
50:58
athletic and most of my best friends were very smart.
51:03
So I was kind of like in between.
51:06
But it was always so fun when we have like, you know, gym class
51:08
or whatever. And I mean, my high school had a
51:10
hockey rink, so we'd play not hockey.
51:12
We play like a broom ball. If anybody knows a broom ball
51:15
is, but I'd play broom ball goalie and my quote UN quote
51:19
pads were hockey player, uh, knee pads.
51:24
Those were my goalie pads and I was pretty good, not gonna lie.
51:27
I always thought I could make it as a hockey goalie if I needed
51:29
to be. But yeah, that's kind of where I
51:31
was. I was like the part of the
51:33
smart, nerdy kids, let's say, but the respect of the jocks,
51:38
and that's kind of how it was for me.
51:42
I don't know, like we didn't really have like that kind of
51:44
breakdown of like nerds, jocks, whatever.
51:46
I I kind of just got along with most people like I.
51:49
Was saying that's. Up for me, I guess normie works.
51:55
I did play a lot of sports though, like I played the hockey
52:00
and basketball and also like, you know, a bit of football here
52:02
and there. So I I definitely was sporty,
52:07
but yeah, I just had kind of like friends and different
52:09
friend groups. So it sort of just get along
52:11
with most people. Like sort of a boring answer but
52:14
I don't know I feel. Like.
52:16
I feel like in Canadian high schools, maybe it's just like
52:18
unique to Quebec, but there's not really like your typical
52:22
freaks and geeks type situation, you know, not that I've ever
52:25
seen that show, but where it's like, you know, there's like
52:28
there's like this like you sit with the jocks, like, you know,
52:32
you nerds, you know, it wasn't like, I mean, there were the
52:35
people who were like in theatre who kind of did their own.
52:38
There was, and like I was friends with those people too,
52:40
you know, like they, they were friends with people, but they
52:42
were kind of like unique, I would say.
52:44
And then there were the like other people.
52:47
There was no such thing as like jocks specifically, you know.
52:50
So anyway, I feel like I feel like we all would have been
52:54
friends if we went to the same high.
52:55
School 100% we would have. We would have started a podcast.
52:58
That's it, That's it. Alright and last but not least,
53:02
Joshua Furon on discord ass. In your league of record, how
53:05
good would a team of undrafted players be?
53:08
Wow love this. What are the odds you could win
53:11
the league without drafting? You get to pick your team after
53:14
everyone has drafted their full team but can still stream and
53:18
trade and follow up. Josh, unfortunately it's not
53:23
here. How would you still acquire 4
53:25
first round picks? Gonna leave like ours.
53:27
There's no way you could win without dropping.
53:28
It's way too deep Because we're 280 roster spots.
53:33
Throwing. Injured, yeah, so it's just way
53:35
too deep for that. But I love the concept.
53:39
I find if it was like, you know, a hundred, a hundred players
53:44
deep, it's actually possible. It's just it's like a ten team
53:47
league. Honestly, I think that it could
53:49
be feasible. I think all three of us on this
53:52
podcast would have a lot of success attempting to win the
53:54
league but not not having a team that drafted.
53:57
I see this in football and I've always wanted to play in a
53:59
football like this. I think it's called the Vampire
54:01
League where it's like everybody drafts their team and then
54:04
whoever does, one person doesn't draft and they make their team
54:07
with the waiver guys and only they have access to waivers
54:10
after. So it's a fun, it's a fun
54:13
concept. I I really like it for hockey.
54:16
That would be super fun in my opinion.
54:18
Maybe we could do a couple of vampire leagues with the with
54:20
the listeners. If we do like a shallower
54:22
league, I think that could be fun, but the Josh would
54:25
absolutely not acquire first round picks.
54:26
You would not be able to. There's nobody that would be
54:28
able to pick up off waivers that you'd have to hit on all the
54:30
waiver guys and then convince somebody to trade them.
54:35
Like, you have to pick up a Darren Radishes that are
54:36
averaging 1.5 points per game, and then, you know, compare that
54:40
with somebody else. But in our league, it's, yeah,
54:43
there's so many, too many players getting drafted that the
54:45
quality of the breakout candidates are also just like
54:47
very low. Yeah, I mean there's.
54:50
I'd love the challenge. Though yeah, there's a few
54:53
players like it. It can't be more than like 120
54:57
players roster to actually make it possible.
54:59
And even then, right? I mean like you can still pick
55:01
up players if you did draft, right?
55:03
So the Vampire league, you're saying it's like you can't pick
55:06
up players if you actually drafted?
55:08
Yeah, you're not supposed to be able to.
55:10
OK, well in that case I actually.
55:11
Images different settings for different type of leagues but.
55:14
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a fun one.
55:16
I never, I never thought of it. Play a very cool, very cool.
55:21
A lot of this is some fun episode.
55:24
I want to say one more thing. I remember having a conversation
55:27
with my friend back in the day. I think it was probably in high
55:30
school. And I was like, I can stop 2 out
55:33
of 10 Ovechkin slapshots. And he was like, no, you're
55:37
crazy. Yes, you can.
55:39
Like, I think like the whole thing was like from the blue
55:41
line. I'm like, do you know how far
55:43
that is? I'm like, back in the day.
55:45
What? The blue line is pretty far.
55:47
Yeah. Like, this is back in the day.
55:48
We're talking so, so, you know, but I, I was like, I could
55:51
definitely stop it. So it's funny that like, we've
55:53
evolved and I'm still having similar conversations.
55:57
But do you do these years later? I'm telling you no, nobody
56:01
believes in me. But.
56:02
But all kidding aside, like that.
56:04
One you like, win the lottery. If all people my mind to it, I
56:07
can do it. The numbers are right in here.
56:11
I'm not saying these unrealistic things like I'm telling you it's
56:13
it's 2 out of 10 shots from Ovechkin or it's 2 out of 10
56:17
breakaways from from McDavid and they can miss the nut in
56:19
accounts so. Anyway, yeah, but what do you
56:21
say Save? It's just like, you know, it
56:23
implies that the net is not being missed.
56:26
No the the net can be. Missed we're gonna get this
56:29
anymore. OK, so spent too much time.
56:32
Let's take let's take it as we're finally agreed that 2 out
56:35
of 10 breakaways from McDavid will not go in and we're both on
56:39
the same page and it's a great place to finish the episode.
56:42
Right. I can't believe I'm letting this
56:43
happen, but yes. Alright, thank you everybody for
56:47
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57:31
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57:34
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57:37
you know, to affirm my absolute fact of stopping 2 out of 10
57:41
McDavid breakaways, like that's the place to be so.
57:43
I'm nodding my head no for all those that are only listening.
57:47
All right, who's Ernie this time?
57:50
You're definitely Ernie, and you should take it away.
57:53
Me Me Me now Bangor Management Fantasy Hockey Podcast.
57:58
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