Latest / Elon Musk Podcast / Sam Altman Is All-In on UBI - But with AI generated money?
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- 0:28Welcome back to the Elon Musk Podcast.
- 0:30This is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads that
- 0:33shape SpaceX, Tesla X, The Boring Company, and Neuralink.
- 0:38And I'm your host Will Walden. Open AICEO Sam Altman is
- 0:44exploring an innovative concept to support those in financial
- 0:47need through what he terms as universal basic compute.
- 0:52This idea extends the principle of universal basic income by
- 0:55providing a share of computational resources from AI
- 0:58systems like GT7 to individuals. Altman suggests the resources
- 1:04could be used directly, sold, or donated to causes such as Cancer
- 1:08Research, essentially redefining socioeconomic structures by
- 1:12making compute power a valuable asset.
- 1:15Now the initiative stems from the broader realization of AI's
- 1:18increasing integration into daily life as potential to
- 1:21transform traditional economic models.
- 1:24And by owning a portion of a IS computational power, individuals
- 1:27would essentially hold a stake in the A IS productivity.
- 1:30This shift could offer a new form of economic empowerment as
- 1:34AI technologies continue to advance.
- 1:36The Almet's commitment to exploring universal basic income
- 1:39solutions is long standing. He initiated a Ubi experiment,
- 1:442016, that distributed monthly payments between 50 to $1000 to
- 1:47over 3000 participants. The outcomes of this project are
- 1:51expected to be published soon, providing insights into the
- 1:54practical effects of direct financial assistance without
- 1:58prerequisites. A concept of universal basic
- 2:01income has been tried in various forms across different U.S.
- 2:04cities and states, often referred to as generated
- 2:08guaranteed basic income, and these initiatives typically
- 2:12target individuals based on specific needs or social
- 2:14criteria rather than the general public.
- 2:18Now, while many of these programs have reported
- 2:20beneficial outcomes, they have also sparked debate,
- 2:22particularly among conservative groups who argue that they might
- 2:26deter workforce participation. Recently, a controversy emerged
- 2:31in Texas, where the state Supreme Court halted a program
- 2:33aimed at providing $500 monthly to low income residents.
- 2:37In this decision shows that the contentious nature of
- 2:40unconditional transfer of cash programs and their perceived
- 2:44impact on traditional work ethics.
- 2:46Altman has not detailed the operational specifics of his
- 2:49proposed universal basic compute concept.
- 2:51Nonetheless, the proposal is likely to attract attention and
- 2:55discussion among both supporters and critics of Ubi, given his
- 2:58novel approach of leveraging a is economic potential.
- 3:01And beyond financial experiments, Altman's broader
- 3:04concerns with AI include the potential risks it poses, such
- 3:07as job displacement and even existential threats.
- 3:10He advocates for international regulatory oversight to manage
- 3:14the risks associated with advanced AI systems, ensuring
- 3:17they're developed and deployed safely.
- 3:19GBT 4, the latest iteration of open AIS models, has been
- 3:22described by Altman as posing no substantial danger.
- 3:25Currently, his focus remains on harnessing AIS capabilities
- 3:28responsibly while addressing societal concerns related to
- 3:31privacy bias and governance. And Altman also heads Tools for
- 3:35Humanity, which offers the world Coin cryptocurrency in exchange
- 3:39for identity verification. This project is ongoing, and its
- 3:45interest is rethinking traditional economic
- 3:47interactions and providing new means of access to financial
- 3:50resources. Now, throughout his initiatives,
- 3:53Altman emphasizes the necessity of simple, respectful approaches
- 3:57to addressing poverty, critiquing existing government
- 4:00programs as largely ineffective. And he champions the idea that
- 4:04direct financial assistance allows individuals to make
- 4:06better personal decisions and engage more freely with the
- 4:09market. Now, despite the potential
- 4:11benefits of Ubi, Altman acknowledges that simply
- 4:15providing money is not a Pansea for all societal issues, but
- 4:19insists it could alleviate some challenges and improve
- 4:22individuals prospects for self advancement.
- 4:24The concept of universal basic compute suggests a future where
- 4:27traditional monetary income could be supplemented or
- 4:30replaced by access to computational resources.
- 4:34Now I have a question here. If you don't have enough money
- 4:38to get by how would you have enough money to make compute in
- 4:43some way? I'm that's a question that I'm
- 4:45posing and how they would get this compute power to other
- 4:50people. I'm not sure if Sam Altman and
- 4:52the rest of his of his crew at Open AI would provide the money
- 4:57or if the compute would be provided by the individual.
- 5:01It's up in the air right now. This model could provide a novel
- 5:04means for individuals to engage with and benefit from the
- 5:07digital economy, particularly as a is role in society expands.
- 5:11Allman's ideas were shared during a recent interview on the
- 5:15All In podcast, where he also discussed the broader
- 5:18implications of AI on society, including concerns about his
- 5:21impact on employment and the ethical challenges it presents.
- 5:25His advocacy for Ubi is driven by a recognition of AI's
- 5:29transformative potential and the need to mitigate its disruptive
- 5:32effects on the labor market. Studies initiated by Allman and
- 5:36his team since 2016 have explored these dynamics,
- 5:39affirming his belief in UBIS viability and the dialogue
- 5:43between Altman and MIT President Sally Kornbluth at MIT
- 5:47highlighted the excitement and challenges surrounding AI.
- 5:50The conversation covered the ethical, privacy, and
- 5:53operational issues posed by AI. Sam is doing a basically a a
- 5:57media tour right now, and he's reflecting both the enthusiasm
- 6:01for and complexities of AI and the evolving technology.
- 6:06Kornbluth expressed concerns about bias and privacy in AI
- 6:09systems, which Altman's response showed that there's efforts
- 6:14going on right now to align AI systems with human values,
- 6:17making it more lifelike. Acknowledging that this will be
- 6:20a very difficult task now, looking forward, Altman is
- 6:24optimistic about AI's potential to contribute to society and
- 6:27scientific discovery and access global challenges such as energy
- 6:31sustainability and also climate change.
- 6:34He believes that the most significant alications of AI lie
- 6:38in this ability to enhance human knowledge and caabilities.
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