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Mike's Eye Appeal Meltdown!! · Sports Card Clubhouse

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In our massive country, there are card collectors throughout
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the land participating in the hobby.
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There's Mike of Junk Wax Hero and Greg of Midlife Cards, and
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while distance may separate them, here is where they come
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together to talk cards. Hey buddy, talking cards.
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We got the Yankees to steamrolling the Red Sox and the
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Celtics got crushed by the Philadelphia 76ers, but other
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than that, everything is good in your world, I hope, yes.
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Yes. How?
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How are your Kings doing in the playoffs?
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I thought they cancelled that team.
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Are they still around? I went to the Sacramento A's
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game a week ago with my buddy Carl from Oz.
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I don't really care about the A's, but it was nice to go to a
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baseball game and and eat some food and have a beer at the
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game. That was good.
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Yeah, sounds like an awesome time.
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Yes, we've got, again, we're two weeks in a row now.
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We've got a new streak going. It's like, you know, it's like a
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hit streak with one of us not missing.
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So that's good. I wouldn't call, I wouldn't call
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these hits, Greg. Yeah, yeah.
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Appearance. Appearance.
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It's appearance streak. Yeah, Baseball season.
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It's it's a long grind. Let me let me ask you this.
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This just popped into my head. What do you think of the
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challenge thing happening with I got Darren return to collecting
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calling me right now. Sorry, Dee.
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Yeah. The challenge and basically EBS
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challenge. Do you like that?
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Do you not like that? Love it.
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I love it because it's super fast and it's, it's selective,
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you know, I think it's, it's very good.
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They're not spending minutes every time.
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It's like 8 seconds out of the game to to do a challenge and I
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I like it a lot. I like it too.
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I like it too. I think it's good because there
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are times that one call or one strike or one ball could like
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literally change a game and why not make it right if you have
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the opportunity. But the question that becomes
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why not use it for all balls and strikes if it's that easy and if
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it's that fast and they can just get a beep one way or the other?
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Why? It's because the UMPS are in a
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union and the union fights it. Is that, is that true?
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Why do they not want to be? See, they wouldn't need to be
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shown up anymore. See, right now the way that
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works is they get a bad call and then everybody gets pointed out.
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He just screwed up. If it was automatic, then it
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wouldn't be their fault. It seems like they would be all
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for that. They could just beep in their
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ear and they would know what to call.
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If if my all of my papers were automatically graded from my
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students, I would love that because then I could never make
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a mistake on the grading. Why would I want to have to
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grade everything? Well, you can set that up in
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Claude code. I don't know even know what that
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means, but. Get with the times.
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OK. Yeah.
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I, I, I don't do a lot of multiple choice, I'm sure.
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I don't know, I don't whatever. OK, moving on.
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You had a topic that you wanted to bring up about the continued
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movement of I appeal, but a specific portion or segment
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within it, right? It's very, very selfish of me
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and perhaps a little petty too, and I'm OK with that.
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So I saw I appealinc.com is a fascinating website and I'm, I'm
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on the council of I appealinc.com and you can, you
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can put cards in that you think have good I appeal and then
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people can go in and rate them and, and review them.
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And so you have a rating scale of F to a plus and then on top
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of a plus is God tier. And obviously you want a God
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tier card, right? And so really I've been enjoying
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this website. I think it was since last summer
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and people should go sign up. It's free.
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I don't know what his plan is to ever start charging at anything.
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He hasn't mentioned it, but it's completely free.
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And so I I took my very best car, my best looking I appeal
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and it has to be pre 2000. I think is the cut off.
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And so I took a Bobby Jones card from 1928.
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I think it's it's spectacular. It's virtually perfect and I put
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it in the first three reviews come in God tier, God tier, God
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tier. And I'm like, yes, this is by
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the way. Now they have stickers.
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Speaking of, I appeal stickers. He has stickers where if it gets
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a certain number, if it locks in at God God tier or a plus, you
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get a sticker to put on your slab.
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I mean, everyone likes stickers, I know.
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It's a free sticker. You don't need to pay, you know,
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a portion of percentage of your your thing.
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It's not driving up values in any way, at least not yet.
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And so God tear, God tear, God tear.
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It's clearly God tear. And then I get a review from a
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new council member and there aren't a lot of council members
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new can. I don't think he's new anyway.
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And this council member docked it, gave it AB plus because he
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didn't like the image. And if I'm talking about I
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appeal, I'm not talking about the image.
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And so I, it feels a little weird to me that somebody would
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say that. He even said this card looks
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perfect, but he didn't like the image.
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There wasn't anything about the, it wasn't anything about the
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registration. It was just the image itself.
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OK. And your question is, should the
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image itself be part of an I appeal grade?
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Is that right? Correct.
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Yes. Now, can we agree that there are
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some cards that we don't like the looks of and because we
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don't like the looks of it, we may not want that particular
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card, right? Absolutely.
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But that has nothing to do with I appeal in my opinion.
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Yeah, so I'm just pulled up the 58 tops Brooks Robinson on the
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screen. Terrible image, but I would.
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Not. I would not.
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If you posted that in iappealinc.com I would not give
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it AD because the image sucks. I guess the question is what is
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what is the point of I Appeal Inc?
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Is it to grade the qualities of the card or is it to grade the
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the look of the card? Because those are different,
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right? It's to grade the IT even talks
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about centering, registration, color, corners, edges.
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The same thing we're always talking about with carts.
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No one ever says the image on this card is terrible.
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So I'm down grading it in terms of I appeal.
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So I texted Jeremy Lee because Jeremy Lee is brilliant and I
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really respect his opinion. And I said what do you think
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about it? He goes that is 100% God tier
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card. And then he flipped it over and
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he said, well, the back is a little off center so I'll need
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to give it some thought. If I think it's an A+ or a God
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tier I respect that, but saying I don't like the image I'm going
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to give it AB plus seems crazy right?
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That yeah, I mean, I mean, just because I don't like an image
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doesn't mean that it's not a good image or it doesn't mean
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that it's not the image that was chosen by the producer of the
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card. So it seems like the I appeal
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would be for that card. How does this one look right not
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do you like this card? It should be.
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How does it look for that card? But I do have a question for
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you. If you did have a bunch of cards
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that you didn't like the looks of and you were ready to move on
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from them, where would you turn to sell those cards?
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Even if I did like the looks of them, I would, you know, I was
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ready to sell. I would sell to Chris Sewell,
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England, but the best dealer if you're looking to sell your
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collection. I think we can all agree.
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Yeah, we've already established that Paul Borges is the best
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dealer in New England. You know, in all seriousness,
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Chris is great. I look forward to seeing him,
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seeing him at the National. That's usually the only time I
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get to see the guy 'cause we live about as far away from each
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other as we could, except for you being a bit further than
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him. Highly respect him.
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Highly suggest him if you're looking to sell and yeah can.
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I can I real quick just show the card that I'm talking about
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'cause I think it would be, it would be good for people to see
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precisely what I'm talking about here.
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So can you see the card there? Yep, it's on the screen.
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So this this person's complaint is that the top of the card
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image, which is the sky blends into the border too much.
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And that's not a problem with the card.
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It's just the image because it's a kind of a sepia toned.
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When I said 1928, it's 1926. So do you see?
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I mean, I totally see what his point is, but that's not part of
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the eye appeal. Now, caught up on my rug, I'm
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having all sorts of problems. OK, I have two of that card.
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So not only do I love the image, but your example is a stunning
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example, and especially for the great.
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And didn't you get that at the National last year?
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Is that right? This is such a weird question.
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I have no recollection of buying it.
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I know I did because I I coveted it.
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Maybe it was at the. National, I'm almost positive
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because you bought it and you came up to me and you said, look
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at this card. And I said, I have that card.
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I, I bought, I bought that card about 3 years ago on Golden
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Marketplace and, and I've always liked it and I've been like, why
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don't more people like this? And you go, I got this.
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It's on one of my, it's on my 100 cards of envy list.
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And I said, so why is it a two? It looks like a 10 and I start
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looking at it and you go I don't want to know why I'm not going
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to look and investigate why it's only a 2.
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And I said OK. Yeah, then you have a better
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memory than I I put in my card ladder that I purchased on
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September 2nd, 2024, but I often put in fake dates in there
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because if I don't remember. So that's probably what
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happened. Yeah, if if I get a card and
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it's APSA 2 and it looks perfect to me, I don't want to know why
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it's. That's fair.
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Because then I end up focusing on that flaw.
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I don't. Even when I find what's wrong
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with a card, I don't. It doesn't bug me.
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I mean, it's like, you know, my wife, she I'm sure she sees lots
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of flaws in me every time she looks at me.
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But she continue. Oh, yeah.
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Believe it or not, Believe it or not, there are lots of flaws
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going on. All right, Well, you know, yeah,
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I I agree with you that I think that that card is stunning for
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the example. And I think I feel it's not my
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website. I wasn't asked to be on the
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council. You are on the council.
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And it seems to me like what the point would be is to see what is
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the look of that example of that card and is it an extremely good
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looking example of that card, Not do I like the qualities
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about that card, but how does that one look for the card.
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But again, that would be something that at a council
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meeting we could talk about, but I, I won't be there.
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I'm sure that reviewer is a very nice guy, but we have beef now.
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Oh, did you have a YouTube channel that we can start
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leaving nasty messages? Thumbs down, thumbs Downing him.
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We can go thumbs. Down, man, I have no idea.
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I actually don't know anything about him and that's OK.
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Hey, I've got a question for you.
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Yeah, unrelated. Can we take a?
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Can we take a little side Rd. here?
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Anything you want bud. When was the last time you ate a
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circus peanut? Well, that's a great question
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and you'd think that I would give a brief response, but
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that's not how I work. You know, when you go into like
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old kind of grocery store supermarkets, not like the main
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chains, but like the off chains. I know out where you live
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there's like Kroger and stuff, right?
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Never been to Kroger, that's more Midwest.
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Hannaford, Hannaford and Shaw's. Never heard of it, but OK.
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If you go to like the tier 21 and you go to the candy aisle,
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there will be like the name brand candy and then they've got
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like the off brand candy. But it's not like the house
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brand off brand candy. It's like the Super generic off
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brand candy, you know? And I remember looking at circus
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peanuts there and every time I'd see those, I would just go, why?
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Why is that a thing? I can say with 100% certainty,
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I've never eaten a circus peanut, not a single circus
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peanut in my entire life with 100% certainty.
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I've not even had a bite of one. I've seen them, never eaten one.
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So now I have to bring you fluff, Fluffer, Nutter and a
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circus. Careful, careful.
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We don't want to isolate that. I'm going to bring you fluff.
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That just sounds. That just sounds brutal, buddy.
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So when I was a kid, one of my favorite candies, like top three
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candy was circus peanuts. Really.
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I hate that. Oh man, I love circus peanuts.
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But then at some point after my teen, you know, I grew up and
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you don't see circus peanuts anymore.
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They're just maybe because nobody likes them, because
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people are biased like you and refuse to even try them.
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But I saw them in the grocery store today.
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And so I bought a bag, nostalgia.
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And it hit, oh, man, Greg, it is delicious.
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And it tasted like the 1990s. It was so nostalgic, so
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delicious. I couldn't stop eating them.
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I don't, I don't know what to say.
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I, I feel like, I feel like if I ate a circus peanut, what I
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envision is like my throat just burning afterwards.
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Like if I drank gasoline, that's just what I feel like.
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Like the sugar would be like the harshest sugar out there.
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My heart was shot up so high after eating.
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I would think that like, you know, the next day when you use
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the bathroom, like things would be weird colors and stuff.
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Like, I just don't envision your system being designed to receive
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a circus peanut. That's that's fair.
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I will tell you. I will tell you though, the most
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disgusting thing I used to eat as a kid that I'm embarrassed to
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admit. Do you want to hear it?
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Of course. So I used to get, and I talked
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about this in the book, every Friday my dad would pick us up
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from school because Friday was my dad's day.
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And on the way home we would swing through 711 and I would
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get $1.00. He'd hand me my dollar.
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I'd go in, I'd spend my dollar and there was this stretch where
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on the counter where they had like the beef jerky and the beef
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sticks and things. There were these like beef
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sausage things that were about the size of a hot dog.
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And they were in like a water. They were like the, the case was
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like almost like a water balloon of watery, like a reddish
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goodness, not goodness. And it was, it was they were
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like spicy. They were like, it was like a,
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almost like a hot Tamale kind of spicy to them.
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And I remember getting them there were, it was always like
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they were like $0.25. So I'd have like $0.25 later and
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I'd get one and I'd pop that thing out and I'd eat it.
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And I remember eating them. And now occasionally I'll be
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somewhere and I'll see one of those things and I'll literally
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like start like gagging at how disgusting they look.
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And I, I used to eat them. I had at least ten of those in
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my day. Wow, I had never eaten a Slim
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Jim until about 3:00. Or five slim Jims are the best.
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No, it's trash. I so I'm at an age now where I'm
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willing to try anything but when I was a kid I would see
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something that looked disgusting and I would I would be like
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there's no way I'm eating that. And a Co worker found out I had
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never had a slim Jim just by asking me and so he brought one
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in for me and I took a bite and it was atrocious.
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Oh, that's just. That's just, I'm disappointed.
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I I love Slim Jims. Awful.
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Lucy and I both love Slim Jims. The other two members of our
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family are repulsed by them. So I I don't, I mean and.
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I hope people, I hope people enjoy Snack Corner with Mike and
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Greg here. I we, I could talk a lot about
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snacks. We've already.
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Yes, especially Chipotle. OK, so my other topic or the
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other topic that we had, I mean literally mentioned for about 3
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seconds and I haven't even shown it to you yet.
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I got this question from when when I got home from
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Strongsville, there was a lot of kind of like videos I was
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watching on the plane and afterwards and all the fallout
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of everything happening. And you start realizing there
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was all these things happening that you didn't know about.
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And one of the things that was a huge take away that was
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happening, that was a lot of the hubbub in the room was my buddy
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Dave. He brought his collection to the
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Strongsville show with his son and he submitted several of his
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high end cards to Mike Baker for stick stickering.
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And that's a whole nother topic. We're not going to go down that
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road right now, but his cards were there and I've shown his
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cards on a couple of videos in my channel and Dave's been on my
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channel a couple of times. Great guy, absolutely amazing
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collection and I didn't realize how many people got to see his
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collection as as I realized afterwards when I was watching
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videos, I was like there's Leighton Sheldon looking at his
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collection, there's Jake waxback wisdom, look at his collection.
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There's, you know, Tony Southern collector, look at his
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collection like his collection was getting shown a lot as it
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deserves to be seen. Well, you didn't get to see it.
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No, I I was looking around for him at trade night and I
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couldn't find him. He was at trade night.
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And you, it was interesting because you had said a couple of
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times that at trade night you spent a lot of time in the side
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room talking to some people. And Dave was in there with his
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son Jake a lot that night. And I figured that's all along.
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I figured that's who it was that you were talking to in there.
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But anyway. But I, I don't think I talked to
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Dave. I I'm pretty, I'm like 98% sure
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I know what Dave looks like because I've seen him on your
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channel. Yeah.
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Anyway, he left a question for AQ and a episode and he posted
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this, I think it was yesterday. He posted this question in the
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comments of my Q&A that posted on Wednesday and I thought it
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was a really good question and instead of talking about it in
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my Q and AII wanted to pick your brain on this topic a little bit
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and see what you thought about it too.
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So I'm going to read it for those of you listening, not
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watching. It says great episode as usual.
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I have a question for next week. Previously you had discussed why
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people collect the type of cards they do.
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My question is, why do you collect cards in general?
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What emotion do you feel when you're collecting looking at
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your cards? The reason I'm asking this is
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because a friend recently asked me this question.
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He said he had no desire to collect cards and just didn't
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understand why anyone would. So I want to talk about that
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because when you think about it, it is kind of like we're
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spending what kind of money on what, but we do it happily, we
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do it gleefully, we get excited about it.
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So to the first point of the question is why do you collect
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cards in general and what emotions do you feel when you're
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collecting and looking at your cards?
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This is a really difficult question to answer and I'm going
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to say I think a lot of people in the community would answer
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it's because of the community, but that's not true because you
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were collecting before you joined the community.
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I'm I mean for virtually everybody, nobody joins the
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community and then says, oh, hey, I think I'm going to
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collect too. I think there there are a lot of
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reasons why, which isn't a very satisfactory answer, but I
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collect out of nostalgia. I collect out of I don't, I
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don't know how to answer this. It's such a weird, not a weird
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question, but a weird thing for me to think about on the fly and
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I'm not good at like this is a a deep thought by Mike situation
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where my brain fries up and I I slept great last night and I'm
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ready for this type of thing. But this I don't know.
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So when I was a kid, I collected because I loved sports.
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I loved baseball and basketball and it was just a thing that I
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did even even without my dad. So I would say he got me into
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it. But then when he and my mom
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divorced, I continued collecting more, probably more at my mom's
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house than at my dad's. And I think there's just kind
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of, I like the Chase. And I don't mean ripping wax
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because I hate ripping. Well, I love ripping wax, but I
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hate the feeling after. It's the the Chase for a, a
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great card or a great collection or, you know, finding something
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new, discovering something new that you love and nostalgia for
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your childhood and the sports that you loved, the players that
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you loved, the teams that you loved and the players that you
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Revere still to this day. That's for me.
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That's why I collect. Let let me throw a few things
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for me. Do you remember the feeling when
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you were a kid and the bell rang from the last day of school and
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there's just this Glee where you're like, I don't have to do
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anything for two months And it just all the weights of the
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world are lifted off you and you just feel amazing.
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And you want to bottle that feeling.
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And, and in some ways, to be honest with you, when I, when I
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get on the plane or even get off the plane, when I'm headed to
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one of these card show hangout weekends and things, it's very
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much this. I don't have to worry about
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anything. I don't have to worry about
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taking care of the dishes or my family or meals.
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I'm just going to live for a minute.
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And that feeling is how I feel when I'm at a card show.
27:01
There's like this excitement when you're headed to a card
27:04
show or when you look and you see that there's these new
27:07
alerts in your saved searches to look and see what the cards are.
27:12
And it's this, this, it's the closest thing to that feeling of
27:16
the first day of summer that I get to feel as an adult where
27:21
it's I'm not worried about all of the things in the world that
27:26
weigh us down. I'm not worried about my car.
27:28
Why is it making that noise? Why the the backyard, how
27:32
there's something growing over there.
27:34
I got to cut down. Like it just lets me be for a
27:38
moment. And it's a release.
27:42
It's like a relief from the anxieties of the world.
27:46
That's part of it for me. And, and when you say nostalgia,
27:50
'cause that was the first thing you said.
27:53
The nostalgia for me is I'm connecting to that feeling
27:57
because when I walk into a card show now, it feels exactly like
28:02
when I walked into a card show when I was 9.
28:04
It feels exactly the same. I've got a.
28:08
Lot more money. Well, ideally, not necessarily
28:13
at times. The other thing is I think that
28:17
is, guys, there are certain things wired into our DNA.
28:22
And one of the things that I think is wired into our DNA is
28:26
to hunt. It's to search.
28:30
It's to identify things at like, I'm not a fisherman at all.
28:37
Like I don't even know if I've actually ever caught a fish.
28:42
But when we moved out to the community we live in about 15
28:46
years ago, they have a bunch of fishing lakes.
28:49
So I'm like, I'm going to get a fishing bowl, I'm going to go
28:51
fish. And I would go and I remember
28:54
casting and I was like, a lot of me was like, I don't even want
28:57
to catch the fish because I don't want to deal with it, but
29:00
I want to go fishing, right. And when I would see the fish
29:05
identify my bait and start to kind of move and I would kind of
29:08
wiggle the, the, the pole or whatever that, what do you call
29:12
it? Fish?
29:13
What the fishing pole, the rod, what, whatever it is.
29:16
And he'd wiggle it and the, the fish would go, Oh, like he was
29:18
kind of like, Oh, that's interesting.
29:20
And I remember I was getting these adrenaline rushes and I'm
29:23
like, why, what is happening? Like I don't even care.
29:26
I don't even want to really catch the fish.
29:28
I don't want to deal with that. I just but there's something in
29:31
US that is like we want to find things.
29:37
We want to pan for gold, we want to hunt for, you know, whatever
29:43
it is that we're hunting for a meal that night.
29:46
Like that's that's wired in our DNA.
29:49
And one of the only places we get to satisfy that is when
29:53
there's an item that we want that we're stalking and we're
29:57
preparing for and we're gathering funds for, and we're
30:00
making moves to be able to get it.
30:02
And then we slay that item and we add it to our collection.
30:06
Like we just, you know, slit a deer's throat and throw it over
30:10
our shoulder, and we're going back to camp with the deer.
30:13
It's like, it feels like it's natural to have that feeling of
30:19
hunting and then conquering. And I feel like cards do that
30:23
for me. So that's very well said.
30:27
This is why your videos are 40 minutes and mine are 8:00
30:30
because you have smart thoughts that that take you a while to
30:34
get through. But they're there's these great
30:37
stories and I'm just like, I like cards.
30:39
Video over. I, I just, I'm passionate about
30:43
this stuff. And when I, you know, I was
30:46
looking at some cards the other day and I'm just like, I was
30:49
sending some pictures to a friend this morning about a
30:52
couple of cards are just like, man, tell me this card isn't
30:55
amazing. Like it's so cool looking and
30:59
it, it really does. You know, just like we're wired
31:02
to hunt. I think we're wired to have
31:07
resources and we're wired to try to expand our resources and
31:14
those resources of money. It's like, I think we like
31:16
investing because we see investing as an opportunity to
31:21
gain additional resources to provide.
31:24
And I think that's in our DNA. And so when you're buying a card
31:27
that you think is a good deal or you think that it has potential
31:31
upward potential, it just, it's just checking so many boxes of
31:37
how we're wired. And for some people it's not,
31:41
it's, you know, some people love to literally physically go hunt.
31:44
That's not my thing. I, I've no problem with it, but
31:48
that's how some people satisfy that.
31:51
I satisfy it with cards and that's how it makes me feel.
31:56
It makes me feel satisfied, accomplished.
31:59
It makes me, and then I'm also a visual person.
32:02
I've always loved photography. I've always loved taking
32:06
pictures. I've always liked editing
32:07
pictures. I've always liked, you know,
32:10
looking at beautiful images and artifacts and and learning about
32:15
the past and it just it just checks so many boxes of what I
32:19
like. But that said, I also totally
32:23
understand why someone else would look at it and go you do
32:26
what? Like that's cool.
32:29
Like I understand how somebody else their thing is racquetball,
32:32
you know, or or you know, golf or running.
32:36
Well, I don't understand running.
32:38
I don't understand running. That's just that's just why or
32:41
that just sounds brutally not fun to me.
32:45
But I miss running. Really.
32:48
Yeah. I like running, I like
32:52
competing. Have you ever run?
32:54
I like competing have. You ever have you ever truly
32:57
run? Like I didn't enjoy running
32:59
until I learned how to run. I.
33:00
Don't even know what that means. What does truly running mean?
33:04
Like, so I used to just go out and run and I, I was just like,
33:08
I want to run. But then I learned about heart
33:12
rate training. People are shutting us off right
33:14
now, heart rate training and you're supposed to keep your
33:17
heart rate at a certain level. And so, you know, I was 40 ish
33:22
years old at the time and you're my Max heart rate was 180.
33:26
And so you're supposed to keep heart rate around 1:35-ish when
33:29
you're running. And so that made me slow down
33:31
because my heart rate was getting up into one, one 70s
33:34
early in my runs before 'cause I was running too fast, I didn't
33:37
know how to run. And then when I started keeping
33:40
my heart rate lower, I was able to run longer and it made me an
33:44
infinitely better runner and it made me enjoy running much more
33:47
and it made the injuries go away.
33:50
And then I had a nerve injury which ended my running all
33:52
together. But the point is, I didn't
33:55
really enjoy it either until I learned how to truly run and run
33:58
the right way. All of that is like Greek to me.
34:04
I'd I had no idea that was a thing, any of that.
34:09
I love sports, but I didn't like some people love they love the
34:20
science of hitting a baseball. I just liked winning.
34:26
I just wanted to beat you. I didn't care if it was pick up
34:30
basketball or some Home Run Derby game at the park.
34:36
I love winning and winning drove my love for sport because it was
34:42
never about the love for the sport.
34:44
It was always about I want to become better than you so I
34:47
could beat you. Yes, I was uncomfortably
34:52
competitive as a kid. It was.
34:55
I didn't realize it in the moment, but looking back on it,
35:01
nobody wanted to play with me because I would.
35:04
Not only was I going to win, but I was going to tell you I was
35:09
going to tell you I was going to win, and then I was going to
35:11
tell you if I won. I was such a terrible sport.
35:17
I broke many video game systems and it was it was like a it was
35:24
like I would black out. Like there were times where I
35:27
would like, I'd be on my Genesis, you know, and like like
35:30
I would the the ball would get picked off and I would throw the
35:33
remote at the thing and the thing would, you know, knock the
35:36
game out and and I was like, how'd that happen?
35:39
Like like I didn't even I would like black.
35:43
I was so mad. I would like black out.
35:48
I'm a lunatic, Mike. I never, I never threw anything.
35:52
There was never any violence. Oh.
35:55
Lots of violence for me. My friend Matt, my childhood
35:58
friend Matt Lafreniere, if you're out there, Matt, I hear
36:00
you're doing very well. But when we were kids, you know,
36:03
like 6th, 7th grade, he had a very difficult childhood.
36:09
And he, I remember we'd be at his house for a sleepover and he
36:12
would throw the controller. And I remember one day he broke
36:16
the TV, he kicked a hole or punched a hole in the wall.
36:20
And there was always a point where the rest of us kids would
36:22
be like, OK, party's over. And we would just leave because
36:25
we knew that Matt was had some anger issues.
36:31
But that was the thing back then, right?
36:33
There was no parents. There were no parents around.
36:36
We just regulated ourselves and there were no parents to be
36:40
like, oh, calm down. We just said up.
36:43
Matt's lost it. We're all leaving.
36:45
I would play video games over and over and over and over.
36:50
So when I was playing with somebody else, I wouldn't lose
36:56
that. I was a lunatic about winning.
36:59
And, and it's it, it makes it where I can't really place.
37:03
I mean, like I'll golf, like I would go golfing with you.
37:07
I would not keep score. I would not keep score 'cause
37:10
I'd be miserable. I would be miserable if I had to
37:13
keep score. But if I go golfing by myself,
37:15
I'll keep score. Interesting.
37:18
I'm still a lunatic. So what's?
37:22
Your handicap today. Well, I don't play enough to
37:26
know. So what happens is I play a fair
37:30
amount over the summer and my handicap goes down and then I
37:35
don't play much and it goes way up.
37:37
So it depends on when you ask me.
37:39
So like right now I bet my handicap is 10 or 12, but like
37:46
couple of summers ago I was playing like three days a week
37:50
and it got down to like a three. Yeah, it just, I mean, I, I
37:54
track it all, but. Yeah, I played.
37:59
I played a lot in college and they had a system.
38:02
There was a computer in the corner of the clubhouse and you
38:05
enter in all your stuff and I think I peaked it 12.
38:11
But that course, I played on that course and it was one of
38:13
the harder courses in Maine. Never cracked 80.
38:17
Not once in all my 4 summers playing there.
38:20
But then I'll go to another course and I'd crack 80.
38:23
And I say easily, but you know, I'd shoot a 7778.
38:27
But this one, this court, Brunswick Golf Club in
38:29
Brunswick, ME, I could never crack 80.
38:32
And it was my home course. It was a course I played on
38:34
three times a week. Couldn't do it.
38:37
Hard course. So I'm looking at it, this is my
38:40
handicap. I'll hold it up for you.
38:43
It's AI, keep it on there. And it looks like a couple years
38:49
ago it was about high threes, low fours.
38:55
And then you'll see I won't play over the winter and then I'll
38:58
play over the summer and it just does that every year.
39:01
Yeah. All right, Yeah, all right.
39:05
Well, I mean, we're 39 minutes in.
39:07
We've solved all the world's problems.
39:09
Again. Yeah, I mean, this is, I mean
39:12
it's just like once a week they just, I mean, put me on a
39:15
council and everything would get fixed.
39:17
But I'm not on any councils. What does it feel like when you
39:20
go into council meetings? Do you guys wear those little
39:22
funny hats and stuff or like what is it like?
39:24
There aren't any council meetings, but I have a feeling
39:26
this video might make some changes.
39:30
No council meetings. It if you were, if you and I
39:36
were to start a stickering eye appeal company, how do you think
39:42
that would go? Oh, I think it would be great.
39:46
We would be revered as I appeal geniuses.
39:53
We would definitely undercut Mike Baker pricing, right?
39:57
Oh yeah, 5 bucks. You want a sticker?
39:59
5 bucks. $5 for the sticker? What about a percentage?
40:03
Because right now he charges like 2% + 25 bucks.
40:06
Would you just 5 bucks in any percentage or just $5 period?
40:10
No, I think the uglier your card, the more we're going to
40:13
charge you and we'll give you the sticker.
40:15
But. You're wasting our time.
40:19
Yeah, we'll. We'll put an ugly sticker on
40:22
your card. I like that.
40:25
I like that. All right, well, any final
40:30
thoughts before we pull the RIP cord on episode?
40:34
I think we said it was 33, which is I guess if we're Jake and and
40:39
Matt, we would call this the Larry Bird episode, I believe,
40:41
right? Have some circus peanuts.
40:46
I I won't. I am certain that from the next
40:50
time we talk I will not have a single circus peanut.
40:54
But I also won't have one of those little hot link things in
40:57
the juice either. That is in a giant bag of circus
41:01
peanuts. Holy crap, I've never seen a bag
41:04
that big of them pull that up again.
41:08
Oh, like just brutal. What did they did?
41:10
They taste like candy corn. So no, I I was thinking about
41:13
this. What do they taste?
41:16
Sorry about the noise take. Us through the process.
41:18
I it says marshmallow circus peanuts and I don't know what
41:22
they taste like. There's nothing to compare it to
41:24
at all. No, come on, they gotta taste
41:27
kinda like something. No, Google it.
41:29
What do? What do circus peanuts taste
41:31
like? Well, I'm gonna do that right
41:32
now. Very.
41:33
You're eating one. I mean, are you gonna eat one
41:36
right now? Yeah.
41:39
Let's see. A mix of nostalgic banana candy
41:42
and corn syrup, and I hate banana flavor.
41:46
It's banana candy and corn syrup, is what it said.
41:50
I taste no banana. Do you remember those little
41:53
candies called Runts? Yeah.
41:57
And there was the banana one. There was one that was shaped
42:00
like a banana, and there's one that's shaped like a cherry and
42:02
one shaped like like a lemon or a lime or something.
42:07
You didn't like the lemon or you didn't like the the banana ones?
42:10
No trash. That was my favorite one.
42:13
This is delicious, Greg. You're really missing out.
42:16
I. Think I'm OK.
42:19
I really think I'm OK, dude. I don't know.
42:23
All right, it again. I, I, I wish your Red Sox
42:28
nothing but a continuation of how they've played earlier in
42:33
the week. Thank you.
42:34
And the Celtics I am. I'm very neutral on the Celtics.
42:41
I'm trying to think, oh wait, tonight we're recording this
42:44
tonight. This is Thursday is the NFL
42:46
draft. We didn't even talk about that.
42:50
Is there somebody that you're hope?
42:52
Is there a a position you're hoping your patriots go for I.
42:56
Didn't even know there was a draft tonight.
42:58
OK, I could not name a single player in the draft.
43:03
Is Johnny Manziel being drafted? I think he's already been taken.
43:08
Oh, is he OK? I don't think he's on the board
43:11
anymore. No, I'm I don't think I could
43:15
name a single college player. I just don't follow college.
43:25
Yeah, well, I root for my Tennessee Volunteers.
43:32
Right, that makes perfect sense. Yeah, the 49ers pick 27th.
43:39
The the thing I will say is I really like the 49er front
43:43
office and their talent evaluators.
43:47
And so even though we're picking 27th, they'll probably pick
43:51
somebody who was projected to go midway through the second round,
43:57
but he'll turn out to be a stud. So I am.
44:00
I have all faith in my team. New England Patriots picked
44:05
31st, so it'll be about two hours after you fall asleep.
44:10
Oh, I you know, I didn't know that there was a draft because
44:13
the Patriots head coach won't be there.
44:18
He won't be there because I guess today there were videos
44:22
leaked of him kissing the reporter.
44:25
Yes, in 2020. Greg, it's been going on for a
44:29
while. So he's in counselling.
44:32
He went to rehab, which there the people said, hey, back in
44:37
2009, Tiger Woods went into rehab three days ahead of the
44:41
big, huge release. And so they knew because
44:44
they're, you know, the these news outlets are reaching out to
44:47
him and trying. To get him to buy.
44:49
It give give us a statement. We're about to drop this story.
44:53
And so they threw him into rehab.
44:56
And so now there are people saying Mike Vrabel is in rehab
45:00
because something even bigger is about to drop.
45:03
Yeah, it sucks because he's got a family and he's got a wife
45:07
and. She's got a family, too.
45:10
Yeah. And, and the fact that it's been
45:12
going on for five years. At least brutal, yeah.
45:19
All right, well on that note, time to hear some whistling as
45:24
we see our logo float away. See you, Greg.