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KÜNTSQUÄD: Open Air Annihilation At DARK DOWN SOUTH · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Hello, I'm Paula, the lead guitarist and vocals for Cunt Squad.
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  Speaker 2: Nick, guitarist for Cunt Squad.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that's who we are.
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  Speaker 4: That's fantastic. Thanks for joining us. Always a pleasure to
• 0:21
  Speaker 4: see your smiling faces.
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  Speaker 3: Nice to see yours, you know, Paul.
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  Speaker 5: Top Squad are headed to the opposite side of Australia
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  Speaker 5: in November to play at Dark Down South Open Air
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  Speaker 5: Festival over November 20th and 21st. It's a bloody long
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  Speaker 5: way to go to play some music, guys.
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  Speaker 4: It sure is.
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  Speaker 3: We've been there once before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we love it over there. They look after us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's a beautiful part of the world, isn't it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and they've got a great scene going on too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's really good. The people that are putting it on,
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  Speaker 3: what are they called, Wolf?
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  Speaker 4: Dark Wolf.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Dark Wolf Productions. They're really nice people, Ursh and Kim. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: when we got there the first time, when did we go?
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  Speaker 1: It was last year, I think. And we got there
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  Speaker 1: and we were trying to find our stuff and couldn't
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  Speaker 1: find our stuff off the plane. And lo and behold,
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  Speaker 1: they'd already collected it.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's sad.
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  Speaker 3: Collected our stuff and, like, hi, we're here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And it was like, yeah, picked us up and
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  Speaker 1: had our stuff and, like, accommodation organised. They were just,
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  Speaker 1: I think we worked out like rock stars because on tour.
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  Speaker 3: Had we experienced that kind of, like, attention. So it
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  Speaker 3: was really nice of them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, cool.
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  Speaker 1: Ta-da!
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  Speaker 4: I think it's in its third year this year, and
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  Speaker 4: it's one.
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  Speaker 5: Of the only true open-air medal festivals doing the rounds
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  Speaker 5: in this country. So you guys have been there and
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  Speaker 5: played a few shows. How important are dedicated medal festivals
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  Speaker 5: like this and the long-term sustainability of medal in this country?
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  Speaker 6: I think they're a must-have. Like, they're good for everybody.
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  Speaker 6: They're good for the punters getting to see heaps of
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  Speaker 6: bands that they may have never seen before. And it's
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  Speaker 6: great for the bands to get to an audience that
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  Speaker 6: they probably wouldn't otherwise get to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we were there for Shredfest in Brisbane
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  Speaker 3: not long ago. And, like, just the turnout was phenomenal.
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  Speaker 1: And, like, just we got to see bands that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we'd never seen and play with them. a whole heap
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  Speaker 1: of bands, some that we had, you know, previously played
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  Speaker 1: with in other states.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the good thing about festivals, right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Apart from the punters.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, the crowd because those festivals tend to
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  Speaker 1: attract larger crowds.
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  Speaker 3: Apart from that.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you just get to meet people from, you know,
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  Speaker 1: all sorts of bands and that was a real experience. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Dark Down South would be similar.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know when we were in Perth, last,
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  Speaker 3: they just finished, did.
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  Speaker 1: They just finish it, or was one coming up actually,
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  Speaker 1: there was one coming up, last year's one, and there
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  Speaker 1: and then they're like, oh, you know, you should come
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  Speaker 1: up for the next one, and we're like, oh yeah, cool,
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  Speaker 1: let's do that, you know, so it's been, it'll be
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  Speaker 1: about a year since we've been there, so yeah, really
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  Speaker 1: looking forward to it, it's a fair way down from
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  Speaker 1: down south actually, I think it's about three hours from
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  Speaker 1: the main city, if I'm not mistaken.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, yeah. Yeah, so it'll be a bit of
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  Speaker 3: a drive. And, you know, obviously it's camping and what
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  Speaker 3: have you, a bit like Larkin.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Off-est and what have you. So, yeah, so it'll be
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  Speaker 1: an experience. I don't know if we're going to be staying, though,
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  Speaker 1: that long because we've got to get back on the.
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  Speaker 4: On the red-eye.
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  Speaker 3: But, yeah, it's going to be an awesome atmosphere.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently.
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  Speaker 3: They've sold out round two tickets.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, that's great. That's good. Good on them.
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  Speaker 3: So round three is. Not for sale.
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  Speaker 1: No. Nice.
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  Speaker 5: I think one thing I really love about like this,
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  Speaker 5: there's quite a few bands playing, but there's only one international.
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  Speaker 5: Like they've got Demonte from Mexico City, but everyone else
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  Speaker 5: is Australian.
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  Speaker 4: It's like it's good.
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  Speaker 5: Like these days people, you know, they understandably put a
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  Speaker 5: few internationals on to try and guarantee the money coming
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  Speaker 5: back in. But to take a risk and just promote
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  Speaker 5: home grand talent, it says a lot for the state
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  Speaker 5: of the music industry in this country at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think we've got a pretty healthy scene,
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  Speaker 1: like in terms of metal bands.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know whether there's.
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  Speaker 1: A resurgence of metal, but there seems to be a.
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  Speaker 3: Lot of it in Melbourne at the moment and.
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  Speaker 1: Even probably in Brisbane and Sydney.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of metal and it's all varied too,
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  Speaker 6: which is great to see as well. And it's not
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  Speaker 6: just a whole bunch of people copying, you know, whatever,
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  Speaker 6: you know, some bands doing, but, Yeah, there's so much
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  Speaker 6: metal out there.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, different genres.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And that's good to have a mix, like, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. Yeah, because, like, it would get a bit,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I know there's some festivals that are exclusively, say,
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  Speaker 1: thrash or what have you.
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  Speaker 4: They do get a bit same-same after a while.
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  Speaker 5: Like, I love all that kind of music, but you're
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  Speaker 5: seeing 20 bands that have carbon copies of one another.
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  Speaker 4: It sort of becomes a bit past day pretty quick.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Unless it's Mexican growing cool.
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  Speaker 4: Well, everyone's got their voices, haven't they?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, looking forward to seeing that band, actually.
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  Speaker 4: So that'll be really.
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  Speaker 3: Cool for them to come all that way, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for the festival.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're doing other shows to make
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  Speaker 1: it worth their while, but it'll be interesting, nevertheless. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's a good thing. The mixed sub-genre... of metal is,
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  Speaker 1: I think, really important for metal, generally, because there'd be
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  Speaker 1: puns there that might not even know.
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  Speaker 3: They like whatever.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly what that song, yeah. They've not even.
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  Speaker 3: Been exposed to it.
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, and there's good and bad in every sub-genre,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like, but the important thing is the difference.
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  Speaker 1: Like you said, it doesn't get boring because, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: a good variety, good mix. Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: So I guess along those lines, let's just say someone
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  Speaker 5: is going along and they've never heard of Cunt Squad before. Like,
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  Speaker 5: what three songs of yours should they listen to to
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  Speaker 5: get to know the band a bit better?
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  Speaker 6: I can't answer that one.
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  Speaker 2: Piss and Purge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe.
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  Speaker 4: Anything off the new album.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The album's great.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, a little bit more focused, this one here. The
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  Speaker 1: first one was a bit all over the shop in
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  Speaker 1: terms of, you know, direction. And we had to sort
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  Speaker 1: of really redefine how we're going about it because it
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  Speaker 1: may have been a bit confusing. But I think this
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  Speaker 1: one's spot on in terms of, you know, where I
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  Speaker 1: think people need to sort of see us.
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  Speaker 3: In terms of our direction and evolution. And, of course,
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  Speaker 3: maybe the next one will be different again.
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  Speaker 1: But I believe in making music for, you know, myself
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  Speaker 1: but also show some sort of progress from the previous.
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  Speaker 1: I don't subscribe to that idea of, you know, bands
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  Speaker 1: getting comfortable and parodying themselves to a certain degree.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, 100%.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a bit of a cop-out. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know.
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  Speaker 2: The answer was anything off the new album. The answer
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  Speaker 2: was anything off the new album. All of the above.
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  Speaker 1: Just expanding on that because that's an example of what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. Like the new record is progress from where
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  Speaker 1: we were at whenever it was. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And Duck Down South too, like it's a massive two-day
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  Speaker 5: camping event, but bands of the punters are essentially trapped
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  Speaker 5: out in the bush, as you say, but it's an
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  Speaker 5: awesome community vibe. It also means there's no escaping the noise.
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  Speaker 5: How do you guys survive a weekend like that? And
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  Speaker 5: what sort of mindset do you go into knowing that
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  Speaker 5: you're not going to get shut down by coppers or
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  Speaker 5: you're not going to have the whinge in neighbours?
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  Speaker 4: Well, we're a bit, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know, thirst in some ways.
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  Speaker 2: We're pretty much in our environment there if they can't
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  Speaker 2: shut us up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's– it'll be a nice change because often
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  Speaker 1: with these, you know, city festivals, you do get the
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  Speaker 1: appearance of the odd cop or, you know, depending on
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  Speaker 1: where the venue is, maybe you do get complaints. And
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  Speaker 1: if the venue has, like, residents living upstairs, there's all
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  Speaker 1: sorts of things that can impact. I think on shows
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  Speaker 1: like that, how do we survive it? I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: Have we really had to survive a long sort of–
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  Speaker 7: I don't think we've ever done, like, a– a real
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  Speaker 7: sort of camping, well, we've never done a camping outdoor fest.
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  Speaker 3: We've done outdoor fests, but not a camping one. So
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  Speaker 3: that'll be a newbie for us.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and it's also an all-ages thing, so you take
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  Speaker 5: the kiddies along too. So you guys, to put it bluntly,
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  Speaker 5: like you've got a bit of crass language and stuff
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  Speaker 5: about you. Do you think about that before you go
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  Speaker 5: on stage, like no one is going to be kids
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  Speaker 5: out there? Does it affect you or do you just
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  Speaker 5: go out and.
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  Speaker 4: Do what you do?
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  Speaker 2: The kids love it.
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  Speaker 3: The kids love us. Like it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Like our best responses have been from young sort of, Adolescent?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the best shows we play are all ages shows. Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 2: The kids just go off, yeah, every time.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's because they, I think they get
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  Speaker 1: it like in terms of it's not, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: not difficult to sort of, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, process our message and what we're doing.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I mean, apart from press language, which,
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  Speaker 3: you know, can... Most banks will, you know, cross that path.
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  Speaker 3: But I think ideally.
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  Speaker 4: It's part of your DNA. Like, you don't do it
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  Speaker 4: just for the sake of doing it. You know, like,
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  Speaker 4: it's actually.
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  Speaker 5: If someone talks about Tum Squad, you know what you're
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  Speaker 5: going to get because that's just you guys being real.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what, I think, separates it.
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  Speaker 1: I think that people that have seen us will probably
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  Speaker 1: know I mean, we're the first to take the mickey
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  Speaker 1: out of ourselves in some regards, so it's not like
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  Speaker 1: we take it seriously. But one thing for sure is
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  Speaker 1: that there's an honesty to what we do. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't contrive it even if I wanted to, to
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  Speaker 1: be honest.
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  Speaker 3: But, yeah, like I think, you know.
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  Speaker 1: There's integrity and authenticity in, I believe.
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  Speaker 4: In metal generally.
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  Speaker 3: And it is metal for it.
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  Speaker 1: That the crowds that follow metal, they're a special sort
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  Speaker 1: of crowd, right? They're usually outcasts anyway. So, look, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think if kids relate to it because they're outcasts,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, or like I don't know where they're sitting,
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  Speaker 1: but I do know that.
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  Speaker 3: They do get into what we do. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know why that is, to be honest.
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  Speaker 6: A lot of other bands, I guess, sort of come
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  Speaker 6: across as pretty serious and we don't at all. I
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  Speaker 6: don't think, in our live shows. We're there having fun and, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: encourage the chaos.
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  Speaker 5: And I think kids love it too because when they
• 11:54
  Speaker 5: tell their mum and dad about the band, they're actually
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  Speaker 5: allowed to say the word cunt.
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  Speaker 3: I know, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you've probably heard the story of, well, the umlauts
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  Speaker 1: on our name actually changes the pronunciation. So if we're
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  Speaker 1: not allowed to say cunt, and there's another story about
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  Speaker 1: a venue in Brisbane, which I'll mention if you want
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  Speaker 1: in a minute, but it's.
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  Speaker 3: Pronounced Coombsgard, right?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I did not know that.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds very Northern European. Doesn't it?
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  Speaker 1: So that was when we first started the band, it was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Steve, our previous guitarist, who's now deceased, he
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  Speaker 1: was like, well, I tell.
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  Speaker 3: My mum, is she asking me what band I'm playing?
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  Speaker 3: And I said, well, that's why we have the oomlets, right?
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  Speaker 4: So you can't just tell her.
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  Speaker 3: It's called Coop's Guard, right? So that's how we get
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  Speaker 3: away with, you know, in certain situations.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you've got to have a backup plan.
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got to have plan B.
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  Speaker 1: But, yeah, look, the name is polarising at best, but
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't give a fuck because, like, it is what
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 3: And, you know.
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  Speaker 4: It's so refreshing to hear. This is so refreshing to
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  Speaker 4: hear in the modern age.
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  Speaker 1: But I think, absolutely, the current, you know, generation of
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  Speaker 1: PC kind of, I don't know, enforces.
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  Speaker 4: Oversaturation?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it goes too far sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we use that word in all sorts of ways,
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  Speaker 1: and it can be a term of endearment, it can
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  Speaker 1: be a term of derogatory term, if you want.
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  Speaker 3: To use it that way. But for me, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it has its roots in feminism.
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  Speaker 1: So... If you do your research, you would know about Kunti,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll often speak about it because people keep bringing up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that word, and there's a reason for it.
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  Speaker 3: So if people want to know more about it, they
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  Speaker 3: can just look it up. It's Kunti.
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  Speaker 1: So that's where that comes from. It's not really that
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to call it Kunt Squad because there's a
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: reason for it being that, and that is part of it.
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  Speaker 3: Not all of it because we like to say, well,
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  Speaker 3: we can't, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I love to say cunt.
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  Speaker 4: I've never had a problem with.
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  Speaker 1: It, though.
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  Speaker 5: I've never had a problem with it. I was born
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  Speaker 5: saying that word. You know, I reckon I get tagged
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  Speaker 5: on Facebook. Every time someone has got anything with the
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  Speaker 5: word cunt in it, I get tagged, even if I
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  Speaker 5: don't know the person. I just seem to be tagged
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  Speaker 5: with everything that's got cunt in it. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
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  Speaker 3: You would be a good cunt, right?
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  Speaker 4: One of the best cunts, mate.
• 14:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're the best cunt.
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  Speaker 5: Now, talking about your album, like, I hope I've got
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: this right too, but you mentioned that Satan's Cock took
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: a couple of years of introspective revamping and tinkering and
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: essentially restarting after the first few tracks weren't what you wanted. Like,
• 14:52
  Speaker 5: now you've been touring these songs live, like, how has
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: that painstaking studio perfectionism paid off when you're unleashing these
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: tracks in a live setting?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the thing is with that is we.
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  Speaker 1: originally had the idea of just putting out like an EP.
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  Speaker 1: And then Wormhole Death, who we signed to, were like, oh, no,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we want an album. And they re-signed with
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: us even without listening to it, which is really nice.
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  Speaker 3: But for us in terms of to be able.
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  Speaker 1: To produce an album as opposed to four songs, it
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  Speaker 1: was a hard slog because we needed to have this
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  Speaker 1: product like.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty much finished.
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  Speaker 1: Straight away and because we'd taken so long initially the
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: first lot of songs we did were was pretty awful
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  Speaker 1: and that's when the the introspection come.
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  Speaker 3: Along and we had a bit of um.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: It was a bit of uh angst within the band
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: about things like down tuning again and you know cleaning
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: up the sounds you know, how our distortions sounded, you know, gating,
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  Speaker 1: all the usual shit that musicians talk about. But it
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: was time for a real sort of readjustment so that
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  Speaker 1: when we went in to record again properly, it was
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  Speaker 1: going to sound, sonically sound better than the first one
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  Speaker 1: because I had this sound in my head and it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't what we'd done.
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  Speaker 3: It was where I was going with.
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  Speaker 4: It and.
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  Speaker 3: The first four songs just, It was not there and had.
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  Speaker 1: To start again because we down tuned again, re-looked at
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  Speaker 1: the structures, re-looked at the sounds. And when we went
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  Speaker 1: in again, it seemed to, you know, flow a lot better.
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  Speaker 1: Having said that, though, even within the studio, there was
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  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Of changes as we were doing it, which is cool. Like,
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: I don't mind that. Like, Jason was.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: very patient with us because I kept going on about, no,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: you've got to, I want, you know.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: Quiet bits in those sections.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: And he's like, you know, he had trouble kind of
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: really nailing the sound that I'd had in my head.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And he was going through a bit of a rough
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: patch himself. So he wasn't, I think, fully focused either.
• 17:26
  Speaker 8: And During that period, our other guitarist departed and we
• 17:35
  Speaker 8: brought Nick in to do the lead.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Now, Nick came in the very last.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I came in.
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: Most of the album was already done, really, and I
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: just laid down some solos. At the time, I didn't
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: really even understand or know the songs. We'd done like
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: two rehearsals, I think. before going in the studio. And
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: I hadn't even played live with the band or anything
• 17:58
  Speaker 6: at that stage.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Yes, that was a hard call for you. Yeah.
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: Looking back, like, it would have been nice to have
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: some more time with the songs and sort of develop them.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: But on the other hand, like, you know, I.
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: Was brought in initially just to play the solos and
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: get the job done and got it done. But, I mean,
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: I think With time, those songs have developed live a
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: little bit just because, you know, you build that familiarity
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: and everybody throws in sort of their own little bits
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: and pieces that they personalise it with. And, yeah, the
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: recordings don't really reflect that, which I guess is unfortunate
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: because the songs have sort of developed a little bit
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: since then live, I reckon.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: But that's probably typical of a lot of bands, you know.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. And then, you know, as you play them,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: you throw in little, you know, bits and pieces that
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: don't exist on the record.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: So that's okay. That's cool. You know, it is what
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: it is. And I suppose there's a difference between recordings
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: and the live anyway.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Oh, 100%.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So it's always good to be able to capture that
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: energy and the nuances on, you know, you.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: Know, tape if you can, but it's such a hard task.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Like how many bands do we know that, you know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you listen to the album, recorded album, and then you
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: see them.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: Live and it's gone all down. It's either better live
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: or it's actually not as good.
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've watched a lot of docos and a lot
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: of bands like developing their albums in the studio, which,
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: you know, back in our day that never used to happen.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: you'd go to a studio with an album sort of thing. Yeah,
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: so we did a bit.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Of that actually.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Because when we put down the tracks we did a
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: lot of cutting and pasting of bits that we wanted
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and changed some drums like that had not been played
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I mean the marbles of freaking you know the software
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: these days.
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: Like what have you been using Pro Tools yeah Pro
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: Tools sorry mind blank but Pro Tools is like that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: You can just do shit like that. It's not like
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: the old days when you had the.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: Tapes and you were doing... Yeah, you had to.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: Get everything alive. So hard.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Pro Tools makes it so easy to make these adjustments
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: as you record it.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: We did a bit of that.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: When we were, you know, even before mixing down, like
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: before that, like can we just fix this structure up?
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: And really it shouldn't happen. Because time is money.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: You'd like to think it doesn't happen, but a lot
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: of bands do it.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: 99% of them do.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: From, you know, like a money perspective, it's not like
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: we have, like, a lot of money.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: So I think bands are limited by that sometimes.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like, unless.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: You're signed to a major label and they're throwing money
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: at you, mind you, you.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Wouldn't want that because, You've got to pay it back
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: in abundance. Yeah, well, that's it, with interest and, yeah, whatever.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: All right, guys. Well, thanks for your time. It's been
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: a pleasure catching up again.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Dark Down South is on November 20th and 21st in
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: the western part of Australia.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Tickets through Humanitix. So have yourself a good time, guys.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: I'm going to make it to one of them one
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: day soon and we'll camp out and party.