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Sound Frequencies: Unlocking the Mind's Hidden Potential with Ethan Frice · The James Granstrom Podcast - Super Soul Model series

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Imagine your business mentor hands you a set of cassette tapes and within a year, your life totally transforms.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: This week's guest, ethan Fry, shares how the gateway process tapes led him to meet his guides, awaken to his purpose and create Sceptasync, a groundbreaking sound technology that could help you shift your own state of consciousness.
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: Intrigued Well, this episode will not disappoint all of a sudden I'm listening to these tapes and it was like I'd fallen asleep.
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: But I was in one of the most, uh, realistic feeling dreams that I have ever been in.
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: Um, it was so real.
• 0:40
  Speaker 2: I came out of it thinking I'm am I going crazy?
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: It it scared me.
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: It really scared me.
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: But in this dream I was conversing with things.
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: They were telling me things about life, about what would happen to me over this next year.
• 0:52
  Speaker 2: I would have been convinced that that was my normal everyday life.
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: It felt so real.
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: There's not human words to describe what happened.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the Super Soul Model series.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: This week's guest is Ethan Fryce.
• 1:04
  Speaker 1: Ethan is someone who's ventured into the realms only some of us may ever.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: Ethan is an explorer of consciousness and a creative mind behind the new sound frequency technology called Sceptasync.
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: It's a bit of an evolution on the gateway process.
• 1:19
  Speaker 1: The gateway process is something that was created by the Monro Institute in the 1970s and later looked into by the CIA.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: Ethan brings a unique gift and insightful perspective as someone who's openly autistic, which I see as a strength and a lens that often carries extraordinary clarity and originality.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: Ethan, welcome to the Super Soul Model Series.
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you for having me.
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: Ethan, your journey is literally amazing.
• 1:46
  Speaker 1: I'm really excited to have this show.
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: Can we just back up a little bit and find a little bit more about your backstory?
• 1:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm 25.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: I'm autistic, which is something I didn't even get diagnosed with until a few years ago, but explained a lot about myself.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: So I had lots of struggles.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: When I was young I was really bad with people.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: I ended up finding a love for behavioral psychology and that has helped me so much in my day-to-day life.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: If you have autism, I highly recommend researching people.
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: It gives back to you in all kinds of ways you wouldn't expect.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: So about a year ago, I've been in business for a long time.
• 2:21
  Speaker 2: I've started six businesses.
• 2:22
  Speaker 2: About a year ago I had my first experience with the gateway tapes, which led me to the creation of Septasync.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: So tell us a little bit about what the gateway tapes are.
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the gateway tapes were created by the Monroe Institute in the late 70s, to my knowledge, and within just a couple years of the release, the CIA became their number one client.
• 2:42
  Speaker 2: Now the gateway process uses something called brainwave entrainment.
• 2:46
  Speaker 2: You've probably heard of a binaural beat before.
• 2:48
  Speaker 2: If I play one frequency in your left ear, that's nine hertz, one in your right ear, that's 11 hertz, your brain will vibrate at the difference of the two that would be two hertz in this case.
• 2:57
  Speaker 2: That can replicate how your brain vibrates when you're naturally asleep and can cause lots of changes in your physical body.
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: Think, you know, using sound to literally turn off your brain in the natural ways it would while you're asleep.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: So that's the basis of the gateway process.
• 3:14
  Speaker 2: However, people started having visions, or very realistic dreams is kind of what I like to call them, and the CIA for some reason thought that that would be a great tool for spying on people, and that is kind of how that whole synergy started.
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is that like the latter half of, like the Cold War, when people are still trying to do remote viewing?
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's something that Robert Monroe at the Monroe Institute taught super heavily.
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about that and what Monroe was trying to achieve with remote viewing.
• 3:43
  Speaker 1: Is that something that the gateway process was trying to achieve, with the people listening to it?
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: They're hand in hand.
• 3:50
  Speaker 2: They're not the same thing, but in a way they mostly are.
• 3:54
  Speaker 2: So the gateway process uses the sound frequencies to put you mentally somewhere else.
• 3:58
  Speaker 2: Think like a very creative world inside your head.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: Remote viewing is a little bit different.
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: This was the intelligence application that the CIA thought would give us the edge against people like Russia during the Cold War.
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: So imagine if I sealed up an envelope with a photo inside of it.
• 4:14
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what the photo is and, james, I tell you, go lock yourself in your closet and tell me what's inside this envelope, but do it only with your mind.
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: Some people can actually do that.
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: That is the basis of remote viewing.
• 4:27
  Speaker 2: Now, while it sounds hard to believe, I implore you guys to go onto the CIA's website and just type in remote viewing and read their files.
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: There are thousands of cases where, just reading the files alone, you would think it works extraordinarily well.
• 4:43
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm fascinated about and you know the people that I've had on the show is everything about the Super Soul Model series is about reminding people of our well-being, helping us tune and tap in to that infinite potential that we are, which is more than just our five senses.
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: So when it comes to something like the idea of remote viewing, that is just perhaps another sense that we haven't yet, as a human species, naturally tapped into with everyday people.
• 5:10
  Speaker 1: It's something that you have to specialize in and practice.
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: So I'm really fascinated about the gateway tapes, but I'm even more fascinated about what you're doing with septa sync.
• 5:21
  Speaker 1: But just to continue, before we get to know and learn way more about your new sound frequency and technology, tell us a little bit about your experience.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: So the Gateway tapes hit me like a slap in the face.
• 5:35
  Speaker 2: That was one of the most intense and mind-bending experiences I've ever had.
• 5:39
  Speaker 2: So I've been in business a long time.
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: I graduated school a bit early and I jumped right into corporate America.
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: I've always dreamed of living in a high rise and wearing suits with the briefcases.
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: Since I was a little kid I've always dreamed for that.
• 5:53
  Speaker 2: So I got started early and I had a lot of failures, as any entrepreneur does.
• 5:57
  Speaker 2: La.
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: This dude helped me out so much and showed over the course of a year that he has a very steady and strong mind.
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: So he pulls me aside at a dinner one night and says I'm about to say something that's going to sound crazy to you and I need you to believe me.
• 6:13
  Speaker 2: I need you to think of everything you've seen me do this past year and I need you to believe me.
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: And then he hands me a Walkman and the gateway tapes on like the original cassette, and explains to me the out-of-body experiences, all this stuff To me.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: I was a scientifically based person at the time and I'm thinking this guy has a mental illness and he masks it really well and I'm rationalizing with myself on the drive home.
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: I took the tapes and the Walkman and I'm thinking this guy runs three businesses.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: There is no way that he's crazy.
• 6:42
  Speaker 2: But he told me listen to these tapes for every night for three months and you will see a big change in your life and you will see a big change in your purpose and that's how you'll make your money.
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: So that's exactly what happened to him.
• 6:53
  Speaker 2: I went in skeptical, started listening, nothing happened, kept going and after about two weeks, all of a sudden I'm listening to these tapes and it was like I'd fallen asleep.
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: But I was in one of the most realistic feeling dreams that I have ever been in.
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: It was so real.
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: I came out of it thinking am I going crazy?
• 7:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't, you know.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: It scared me.
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: It really scared me.
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: But in this dream I was conversing with things.
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: They were telling me things about life, about what would happen to me over this next year.
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: I'm really fascinated by this bit because a lot of people may be thinking, Ethan, okay, who's talking to you?
• 7:30
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was like I was in the most realistic feeling dream ever.
• 7:34
  Speaker 2: If I didn't remember what life was like an hour ago while I was in this experience, I would have been convinced that that was my normal everyday life.
• 7:41
  Speaker 2: It felt so real.
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: There's not human words to describe what happened, but the way I like to word it is it was just the most intense dream I've ever experienced, with the touch of unexplainable, which we'll get to in a second.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: But it wasn't like people talking to me.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: It was like kind of like the sun in the distance, like picture you're in a black room and there's just a light, and like that was just speaking.
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: Like you know, dreams don't really make sense.
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: They're kind of weird.
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: That was a part of it.
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: However, it started telling me things that said you know, you're in a desperate place.
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: You're meant to come here at this time.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: It got really mystical on me, which I was not receptive to at the time, and it starts explaining you need to talk about what you're learning in this place to other people, and that is a huge part of your purpose in this world If you want to have the success you've always dreamt of.
• 8:32
  Speaker 2: Put your phone in front of your face and talk, and that was why I started TikTok.
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, I called my sister and told her I think I am schizophrenic, I think I'm going crazy.
• 8:42
  Speaker 2: And she goes calm down, calm down.
• 8:44
  Speaker 2: I saw you yesterday for dinner, you're totally fine, and I explained what happened and she goes you're a smart kid with a good head on your shoulders, give me a few hours and she starts researching the gateway tapes, calls me back and says hey, what happened to you happens to most people.
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: Like that is roughly normal for the realm of what you're doing, and it took me two weeks.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: It took me two weeks to even process what happened and come to terms that that was just a dream.
• 9:12
  Speaker 2: However, this is the part I can't explain the things that told me what happened started happening and that still keeps me up at night.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, it said, for example, you're going to inherit something from a close family member that will start you on this new chapter of your life.
• 9:27
  Speaker 2: I just started a business with an old iHeartRadio executive guy Totally screwed me over.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: I lost my house, lost my car, lost everything I had.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: I had to move back in with my parents for a year.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: Okay, and it tells me while I'm in this dream, it says, like I said, you will inherit something to start you on this new path.
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I lost everything I had, and my pretty healthy aunt suddenly passed away and left me a phone that I filmed a phone that I filmed these 4k videos on and enough money to buy a car, because I just lost mine.
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: Okay and I thought you know that's a crazy coincidence, but then these things kept happening.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: It told me a list of seven things and, um, all of them have happened, even down to septicink.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: I didn't know I would create septicink, but it said the success will come from you talking about this.
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: You're basically, whatever will happen to you will be so heavily tied in this realm you'll already have a following about it, and I just still find that, uh, crazy and unbelievable yeah, so it's almost as if spirit or your soul, your guides have been talking to you in this very, very relaxed state and I think that, from what I picked up, I've been doing meditation for 20 years, every single day.
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: I've never missed a day, and it's amazing what seems to surface when you get into this really beautiful relaxed state, and I'm fascinated by how life has a way of being able to speak to Ethan through this deep relaxation and particularly when you've been in a troublesome time, did that feel really reassuring to you to have all of this stuff?
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: Obviously it's crazy and feels very mystical, but did you feel really reassured that someone's got your back at some level?
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: no, not until more recently.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, it was for such a scientific minded person.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: I could not believe that.
• 11:21
  Speaker 2: Um, and once I started watching the things actually happen, that's when I started to feel a little bit more comfort and it's kind of slowly just stacked on top of itself, but I had to see it to believe it.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: It said all these things would happen.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: It talked a lot of games, so to speak, and, like I said, I sat there thinking I'm crazy, you know what?
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: What is happening to me?
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: I'm deteriorating, I was worried, but now, um, I'd feel stupid if I had said that there's not more to this world than we can see.
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: There is so much more, and I would be an idiot to deny it at this point.
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: I think that's beautiful and it's so nice to have a rational mind and it's so healthy, I believe, to be skeptical until proven otherwise.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: And I think that, when it comes to understanding who we are as human beings and what we have access to and some of the things we don't even know we have access to, I think that your story makes it very, very interesting and have.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: Do you continue to listen to the gateway tapes anymore, or have you kind of put them aside now?
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: I've kind of put them aside.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: After everything started happening, I was really excited to try to get back into that state and I cannot anymore.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I think it was.
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: I think it was something that was supposed to happen when it happened, and I've tried many times, but it's not something I've been able to replicate.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: It was just that that one or two times in the beginning I got the cool experience and then it has fizzled out.
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: So so what was the sort of period of time between you starting, uh, the gateway tapes and hearing from your mentor to now?
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: How long has that sort of time frame been?
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: about a year and two months.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, my whole life has changed.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, so in a year and two months, your life has changed and your tiktok's blown up and people you know, what you're investigating, what you're sharing, you know, is enlightening to to a lot of people who have have a healthy dose of skepticism.
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: Um, to me, my mind is wide open, having been meditating for a long period of time, but I'm still fascinated to see that we're all on a circle, just at different positions on a circle looking at the same thing.
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: So I'm really fascinated.
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: So thank you so much for sharing that part of the gateway process.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: But tell us a little bit about you and your backstory.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: Why was this so important to you to investigate the gateway?
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: So it was mostly my business mentor and a mix of me being desperate.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm on my seventh business.
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: Um, I've failed a lot of them and most of them were kind of outside of my control.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: Like right before this, I heart radio guy screwed me over and put me in the position I was in where gateway was all I had.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, um, I started a business with a guy in la.
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: He ran an exotic car rental shop and on our grand opening day this dude just went missing.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: Like we had to file police reports all kinds of things.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: Um, I felt like I was cursed and at that point like, even if my mentor was giving me snake oil, it was free and it took an hour of my time every day.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: I saw no harm in trying yeah, absolutely, and, and you know, if there's no harm in it, no, no foul, no play.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that that's again maybe something learning along the entrepreneurship, that they may not always work, but if you're being guided from a higher perspective, which it sounds like this new business is, I think the world is ready for Sceptasync.
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: So tell us a little bit about this new sound frequency technology that you've created so septa sync also came to me in a dream, a very different and normal dream compared to the gateway process.
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: So a sleep, like I said, a sleeping dream.
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: A sleeping dream, yes I woke up at 2 am and just kind of wrote down everything in my dream and that was how I created septa sync.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: So while the gateway tapes use two or maybe four frequencies, no one's positive.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Their pattern is very secretive, you know.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: Like I said, uh, they'll play nine hertz in one ear and 11 in the other and that creates one phantom sound in your brain of the difference of the two numbers.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I hope I'm making sense okay if we don't, I love you be as specific as you can, because we're trying to catch up and learn as we go along.
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: So you just fill us in with all the details and the audience and I will will take in the science that's going on here perfect.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: So best way to look at it is two slightly different frequencies, one up here, one a little bit down here, go into each ear.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Your brain perceives them and bridges the gap, makes the two sounds into one, a phantom sound.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: When your brain does, it vibrates with the sound.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: It changes your brainwaves.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: So the Monroe Institute uses two frequencies to make one.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: Maybe they use four to make two.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Septasync uses 14 to make seven.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: So it attacks every sleep center of the brain that we know about.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: And I don't even know how Septasync works.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: This is just how I think it works.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Nobody knows why this even works.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: It should not work.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: That's the coolest part.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: It should not work at all.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: But septic puts six of the six of the frequencies that act on your sleeping centers and your critical thinking areas to relax them, and then every five minutes for 30 seconds I blast 30 hertz, which keeps you mentally stimulated, so your body will fully fall asleep on you while your mind stays awake.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: And it is such a trippy thing to experience.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: Is this a bit like the movie Inception to a certain extent?
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: You know, when Christopher Nolan was creating that, the reason why he created the movie Inception was because he said I remember studying at college and just like I needed to just finish what I was doing and I had such little sleep and then I managed to find this little small space where my body was totally relaxed but my mind was open.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: It was just this, almost this small peekaboo of a window of I don't know if I'm asleep, I don't know if I'm asleep, I don't know if I'm awake.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Is that kind of similar?
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: What septicink is like?
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: yes, actually.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: So I was recently at a health conference.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: I had you know, septicink is a 30 minute long.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: 30 minute long tapes.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: There's eight of them and I had to shorten it down as little as I could so people could do live demos.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I ended up at 11 minutes.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I used some eeg data.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I have to pull people out right before they would start like the dreaming portion of septic, and people were saying it's acting like sleepless rest, exactly what you just said like their body fell asleep, their minds did not and they felt like they got the benefits of sleep, but they woke up with like zero mental fog.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: So it's neat you say that.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I think they're very similar, similar yeah, I mean I, I just tried the septa sink take one before we did this interview because I wanted to come with a unique perspective and not just hearsay.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: And I have to say I think towards the very end of the tape, before the wind starts coming in, I was like I think that I felt like five minutes.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: I was clear out but my body was so relaxed, incredibly relaxed.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And I have tried brain hemisync, I have tried the gateway process because of you, and I've tried meditation, different sound frequencies, all the different sound frequencies.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I've got tuning forks, you name it because I'm very auditory and I make music as well, and that was a gift.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that I could make music.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: So I play the ukulele and I write and produce like dance music, house music, and that's my pleasure, that's my creative outlet, that's just a bit of fun.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: But when I hear those frequencies on Sceptasync it feels very, very different to some of the other things I've ever come across.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm absolutely fascinated what you've created.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: And I'm even more fascinated because I know, when I've studied the great minds of the past, people like einstein and newton and tesla and even you know great minds of people are always taking these little siestas.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: They're always having these little naps and in these naps they might just get a window of an idea.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: You know, lenny Kravitz said on a TV show in the UK a little while ago he goes whilst I was shooting the Hunger Games 3, I suddenly got the idea for a song.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: So I just got out the guitar, played a bit and suddenly I've got a song and he goes.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I kept on going and for six hours straight I wrote nine tracks but I had to be on set and you know, half an hour later, so I didn't sleep all night long and the interview goes.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Weren't you tired?
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: And he goes.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't want to miss that download that comes through.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: He goes because you never know when a creative piece of work will come through.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So that album that came out, I don't know, three or four years ago, as human beings, and what you've created, just as the result of getting into that very deep, relaxed state that's alert and ready to take notes if you need to.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: So, with that having been said, septicink, what do you think the future of septa sync is?
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: And, you know, tell us a little bit about some of the people's experiences, because you know one of your videos is fascinating on the deaf client that you had.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: So I I really don't know where septa sync can take me.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I usually have a vision for the future and I am blanking badly.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I mean I have no clue what it does for the future.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: And I am blanking badly, I mean I have no clue what it does.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: Uh, science fundamentally says the multiple frequencies should interfere and you know heavily should not work at all.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: So right now, as we figure it out, I'm learning more and I'll be able to kind of piece together the future.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: But I have no idea, and that's kind of the coolest part right now.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So you can be excited whilst everything's unfolding right oh, yeah, oh yeah, exactly.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: It's so exciting and septic sink is doing things to people that we could not have ever expected.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: So one of the biggest things is with some deaf people and I'm starting to realize I think it has to be a certain type of deaf or a certain type of hearing loss.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I had a deaf lady.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: She listens with cochlear implants, so you know, through vibration.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Deaf lady she listens with cochlear implants, so you know, through vibration.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and she, you know she gets no effects from binaural beats because the implants cannot convey the frequencies like they're supposed to.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: So she listened to septa sync.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: It didn't work.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: She was bummed and she thought what if I take out my power banks and my implants?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: She rips them out and she couldn't even hear it.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: She had, she said she had to watch her phone's slider bar moving on the video to know that it was playing.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: She just laid back and she had the full experience everybody else does, being fully deaf.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: So that tipped me off to something.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Septasync relies on audio processing, we think, but maybe it doesn't.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: If it's working on deaf people that cannot truly process the audio, that either means that her ears are still working and there's a disconnect in the brain somewhere or it's bypassing the auditory complex, which would be groundbreaking and huge, massive.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: So I'm at this health conference and I see a guy wearing hearing aids and I tell him the story.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Hey, a deaf lady tried this.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: All you do is listen.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: It takes 11 minutes.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Please come give it a try.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I'll give you everything I've created for free.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: I just want to see what happens.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: So this guy takes out his hearing aids, knocks out for 11 minutes and I wake him back up.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: We're talking, we're talking and he goes I can hear you.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, and he's like my hearing aids aren't in.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: I can hear you well.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh my God.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: So we took a video and he basically said like I don't think I need this thing anymore and puts it in his pocket.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: And it's been two weeks and he still has not put his hearing aids back in.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: That's huge, like his hearing is better.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't like he didn't lose his hearing in a loud event or like warfare or anything crazy like that.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: It was just from aging.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: So I'm trying to test it on a really diverse group of people that have hearing loss, you know, like war veterans, people who have hearing loss from genetic disorders and then elderly people and it seems to be working with people with like genetic issues, like a lady that kept getting ear surgeries since a child.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: She's found a lot of relief and said septicink is helping.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: But I've also had people with tinnitus from being in the military who are saying it is not doing anything at all.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: So I think it's really a specific kind of hearing loss.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, could it help with any sort of traumas and things like that.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Do you think Would it help people relax at a deeper state?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Personally I think so, and the reason being is because your body falls asleep but you still have the ability to think through your problems because your mind does not follow the body into sleep and, in my opinion, just trying it myself, working through your problems without a physical emotional response is much easier and when your body's asleep it does not get so worked up.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You can work through problems that would normally cause you a lot of distress, but maybe without all of the actual distress interesting because the body really holds on um to emotional tension and pressure.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: You know you can.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: You can see that in fascia release on when you're doing like foam rolling you know I've seen grown men cry foam rolling and when they've had like very deep tissue, because the muscles and the body just absorb all heavy emotion.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: So when your body's at absolute rest, like using septicink, it's not, it's it's able to almost not activate any of that distress or emotional action inside the body.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: That's a fascinating potential scientific breakthrough for people healing and coming back very, very quickly well, and yeah, I lived through a shooting when I was young, for example, and that screwed me up pretty bad.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: You know, I did a lot of therapy.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Um, I was part of like experimental therapies when, like psychedelic treatment was new and stuff.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I was one of the youngest people that did that at the time and none of it it really worked.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, the experimental stuff helped, but more than anything else, but nothing ever really like fixed me.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Like I still felt broken and when I was listening to the gateway process that I still will credit the gateway process to getting rid of most of my like life altering, like PTSD symptoms, after about two months of listening I woke up one day and realized like I have not woken up screaming in a long time Like I I've.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I don't even feel like the same person that went through it.
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: It did something to my brain and I love the Monroe Institute for that.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: I will always vouch for their tapes.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: You guys should try them seriously.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It's incredible work.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: But I think that the sync is similar.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: It just builds on that.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: That's, that's my thoughts, but I think that the sync is similar.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: It just builds on that.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: That's my thoughts and I love that because you know it's.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: You know 40, 50 years on, you know, since the Monroe, and you know technology's advanced a little bit, and tweaking things a little bit is never a bad thing.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: You know we need to evolve as species and we can evolve in technology and I believe that technology, if we use it correctly, can be one of our greatest allies if we be able to use it and program it correctly.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And I personally believe, and I've always thought, ever since Star Trek first came out, they were doing this thing.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: When Star Trek goes back, you know to, from the future, to a modern day period, I think it was like the 1980s at that time and they said oh, your modes of medicine are so outdated.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Don't you recognize that sound frequency is the future of all healing, of where we come from, in whatever year it is?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: You know from Star Trek and I'm a firm believer that sound frequency is the future of a lot of healing and and I think that what you've created and and a lot of what's happening at the gateway, is just the beginning of some of the things that we've, we can learn and use to help heal lots of people and help bring us greater peace as well, and I think that's important because your journey of of that ptsd and not waking up terrified in the middle of the night is such a huge uh gain for you, and now you're able to help potentially millions of people around the world with a similar but perhaps updated version of the monroe tapes and while you say sound frequency is the future, I see it as the this is the past we're just bringing to now.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, everything is vibrating matter.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: If you can vibrate at the same frequency as something, you could stick your hand straight through a wall and there would be no tear in the wall, no tear in your hand.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: You could literally phase through things, like the Flash does in the comics.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I used to love those as a kid.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: We use vibration for everything.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Boiling water vibrates, the molecules they.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: It puts off heat.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Your water boils, um, things get cold.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: They vibrate less.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Everything around us is vibrating.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Why have we not tried that on humans?
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I I think that all the time we we use vibration to achieve almost everything on this earth.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why have we not used that on humans?
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: That blows my mind.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: This technology's been around since the 80s and it's like nobody even has looked into it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: It feels like you know where someone asked me and they go where are you from?
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: And I said I'm from the future to come back to tell you it's all good, right, I've said that many, many times and and I really do believe that because thank you for correcting me earlier when you say it's the future, it's actually now.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: But we often say that because you know, this is the current reality that we think, that we're observing, which is.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: But actually, where do all the ideas come from?
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: They come from the quantum field.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: You know, where do the ideas for a new TV show or a new story, or a new healing modality?
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: They all come from the person who's receptive, who has their antennas up, who's receptive of the idea that can use it now and so, exactly, and people like tesla.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: They were obsessed with ancient egypt because egypt was obsessed with sound frequencies.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: And tesla while we thought he was crazy when he was alive, he's now recognized as one of the smartest people that has touched this earth.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Um, he created an earthquake machine.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Um, it doesn't cause a full-fledged earthquake, but if you can feel the ground vibrating four football fields away, that counts in my book.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he did all this studying ancient egypt, who had a weird obsession with frequency.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: But this, this stuff has been around.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's been studied and it was locked away, classified for one reason or another, but I have a hard time believing nobody has looked into this.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: I have such a hard time believing that.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Well, totally, and I think that people try and look it away or, if anything, they look it away out of fear of what people may discover.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: But actually what we're discovering is that eventually, we're all one.
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: We're all here to help each other with our own gifts and talents, and the sooner we do that, the more joy that we experience as human beings and we can get on doing what we do, which is, you know, enjoying life.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Whilst it's a short amount of time, we're physically here, so we might as well enjoy it, and I think that trying to have access to different frequencies of I mean, what are words, words of frequencies, you know, and we're able to have this conversation, that actually happened before we got here and that we had this conversation.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: If we really look at quantum physics, you and I had this conversation already and we're just catching up with it now.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Everything all at once, everything all at once.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Right, it's already happened and my excitement drew me to you, my, my interest in, like healing modalities and understanding, you know, uh, wanting to know about what we are capable of as human beings and wanting to share that with the audience, and wanting to help people improve the quality of their life so much that they, in a year or so, will be a completely different, evolved person, just like you've had.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: And if it weren't for your challenges, you wouldn't be where you are now.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm so excited for you, ethan, because you've got so many wonderful things ahead.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: The thing is, you've learned along the way and I think that's magical.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: So, scepticink, do you think you'll create anything else from Scepticink?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: I know it's just come out.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: It came out about a month ago, is that right?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a month and six days or eight days or something.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: We are brand new still, yeah you're brand new and I'm telling you guys, you've got to listen to the, the, the, the septic sink.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: You know it's got eight, eight tracks, but the first one really got me already.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: You know, just half an hour in you're going to really relax and just be open, but you've obviously got to have headphones and it really will put you into a very good feeling state.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: My question is is where do you think you're going to go with SEPTA sync?
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Do you think you could find or discover new frequencies to help heal other types of challenges people may be having?
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: The coolest part is, as I understand how this works better and figure out you know why SEPTA sync works with multilayered binaural beats, if I can replicate that in the opposite.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: For know why septa sync works with multilayered binaural beats, if I can replicate that in the opposite.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: For example, like I've created mimicking sleep with sound frequencies, if you can get it to work in other areas, you can mimic almost anything you want.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I mean you could trick the body into feeling any kind of way it's actually scary when you think about it too hard Like you want to make one that won't let you sleep.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: That is completely doable as long as you have the base science worked out.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Like septicink might work by chance.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: You know people have tried many times to multilayer binaural beats and you get all kinds of noisy brain interference.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Something about septicink works and just applying that to other areas.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I mean you.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: You can do so much with it.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: You could.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: You could make yourself feel like you're on a roller coaster and you could be laying in your bed.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: You just have to have the right frequencies to affect the sensory systems in the right way you know, going back to you know the gateway, having four frequencies in septa sync, having 14, is that correct?
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 14.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about the frequencies, because I remember in a video you were explaining you like you were told this is the frequency you've got to use, because the listeners need to hear this, I believe.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the dream I had that gave me the idea.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Well, it didn't give me the idea.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: I got spoon fed the instructions to make this.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: That's the biggest reason why I don't know how this works.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I wrote it better, better.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: So you're not even claiming it to be yours.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Right, you?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: I feel weird.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: If I did, I did most of my learning about this after I created it.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: I started learning why is this even working?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: And found out it shouldn't.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: That's, you know, confusing.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was winning some kind of award in my dream, like a nobel prize or something science-based.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: You know the audience they were wearing lab coats and had like goggles on.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: It was pretty exaggerated and I kept saying, like I unlocked a new area of research in the brain.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: I'm giving a speech and I said I use these frequencies.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: I'd start listing them off, like 140 and 145, 215 and 218, and I listed off so many numbers woke up and they were still in my head.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I wrote them down and like for like two weeks it was like a song on loop in your head.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: I was just hearing what I talked about in my dreams.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Did you know what these?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: frequencies were.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Had you ever known about these frequencies or what they do?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, from researching the Gateway tapes, okay, alpha beta theta kind of low to mid-range, and then there's a few that are like way up there which, um, I don't think I wouldn't think would fit well, but I think that's what makes it work, like uh frequency perhaps, yeah, yeah, a lot of them are over 30 hertz.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: Uh, three of them are.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Which, again, it it's.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: It's such they're so spread far apart they should really interfere with each other.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: It's a quite a big mystery so there's something that I've sort of done on my research right with when it comes to understanding brainwaves, professional athletes, people hitting flow states.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: You know that what I found is that particularly tennis is one of my favorite joys, right, but what I've noticed, and when I've been watching interviews, is particularly with tennis players, because they have to go from adversity and then turn it around fairly quickly.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: It's a one man sport or a one woman sport, and then they just literally have to take the bounce on something that didn't go well on a point and then they have to come back.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: And they found that the very high echelon tier players hit a brainwave frequency of gamma a lot and however they hit that, they're able to return to that time and time again.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: And so by Pareto's rule, they seem to be the ones that continually tend to win because they're hitting this brainwave frequency of which you're putting in this frequency on septa sync.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: That's fascinating.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: So that means we could have higher performing versions of ourselves just by tuning into these frequencies.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Is that the correct science?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: The way I'm listening to it to my understanding.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Uh, yes, I mean, like I said, you could recreate anything if you make it work.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: That's the beauty of the multi-layered binaural beats is, instead of just doing one thing, now you can do multiple, as long as you can replicate it in the opposite fashion of septa sync.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: So, for example, like race car drivers, if you have a frequency that keeps them in the flow state when they do like those four hour endurance races, that would probably get banned so fast if it works because it would be.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: It would be like cheating, like um.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Cigarettes used to be huge in rally racing back in the 80s because it's a stimulant.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: These guys would chain smoke and then go race at like 120 miles an hour on a dirt road craziest thing ever, yeah, and they banned cigarettes because and people who didn't smoke always lost um, and I think that could be a very similar thing.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: It's like um, okay interesting.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Externally very interesting yeah so there was a race car driver of formula one.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Uh, I was watching his interview.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: He's an old boy, he's an old guy and he said that I didn't really mind racing at all because what I enjoyed wasn't necessarily the winning although the winning is great, he goes.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I just enjoyed the way I felt, driving at like 140 miles an hour, you know, around Monaco.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: You know very quickly, and he goes.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It was just.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I know I was going so fast, but I felt so slow.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: You know, I felt like I could just feel every turn.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I knew the track, I knew what was on the track, I could feel my whole environment.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: It was as if that environment, myself and the car were all one package, just flying around this track and he goes.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I love to race because of that feeling that I get.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: So I'm fascinated.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: That frequency, the feeling, is a frequency.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Is that correct?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know probably, I mean I mean it's our brain waves changing that should likely have an effect on emotions.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I don't see why it wouldn't yeah and that means correct me if I'm wrong if it's okay to say that if we have any distress in our life, that when we hit a new frequency we don't have access to that emotional heaviness because we're in a different state.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, I call it like a swipe card access.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: If you're on a different frequency because you're so relaxed, you don't have access to stress because you're so relaxed.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: So it's like with septicink.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: This is my interpretation of it and I've only listened to it once.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: But you know, I've been meditating for a very long period of time and what I see is you just suddenly swipe the deep relaxation card and, as a species, we find it very difficult to relax.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: We find it very difficult to switch off, because we're always being stimulated by something these days and, whilst that's normal, when we do actually learn or switch off the body, I think we have access to something phenomenal I think we have access to in spiritual terms, to listening to your soul.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I think you have access to receiving great ideas, which is what you've done and you know, in professional sports, people have access to playing in flow I mean, I think I yeah, I have to agree sound frequencies can do so much to the brain and body.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: We just have not researched at all.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: Um, I think it's our most powerful tool we have, most definitely.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love, I love driving cars, like you were talking about that race car driver.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I know that feeling like I go.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I go to racetr tracks as often as I can.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: I grew up on a mountain pass, used to drive the crap out of it every day.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: You're nice and there's not a not a better feeling.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: And now, like dude, I have cochlear headphones.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: They bounce off your cheekbones.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna, I'm gonna put on like some gamma frequencies next time I go race and see if I do better or not and will you let us know, let us know like how do?
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: you get on, because you know a lot of this.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: As you know, as a human family, we want to go.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Hey, I think this kind of works, or it works for me, you know.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Um, I always see tennis players when they, before they go on, they listen to music to get pumped up.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: But what if they started listening to gamma rays before they get on and start playing the US Open or whatever, or Wimbledon?
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated to see you know.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: So if someone's tuning in, you know, why not give it a go?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: See how you get on?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: You've got nothing to lose right?
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I live close to a go-kart racing place too.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: I might go test this out today.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: My curiosity's peaked all of a sudden.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Well, if you love racing, I think that you've created something really beautiful.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Ethan, it's been absolutely amazing talking to you.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Is there anything that you'd like the audience to to to know a little bit more about that you think would help them?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: And ethan, take away perhaps?
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'll reiterate from earlier.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I have no idea how septic works, but I will say this we live in a world of frequency, vibrations and electromagnetic fields.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: There's no reason we should not be trying sound frequencies on everything.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I mean a tree catching on fire and burning is literal, causing vibration that deteriorates the tree.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Everything in nature happens from frequency or vibration.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: We need to test this on people more.
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Be open to it.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: I guess that's all I got.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I love your genuine and authenticity.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: You know you bring such an interesting vibe to the equation and such a clarity on the sound frequencies and I love learning about the science behind.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: You know the frequencies and everything like that.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: You've been absolutely amazing to speak to.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: This week's Super model is ethan frice.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Thanks for being on the show thank you so much for having me if this episode resonated with you, please subscribe, leave a review and share it with someone you love.