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(Chats 7-29-26) Outsmarting Bad Supervisors & Mastering Your OWCP Claim · Breaking OWCP with Chris & Gini

0:03
SPEAKER_00: Welcome back to the Breaking O WC Podcast.
0:08
SPEAKER_00: Join Chris and Jeannie as they bring you expert advice on Federal Workers Comp, guiding you step by step to get back to work the right way.
0:16
SPEAKER_00: Let's break down the barriers and get you the help you deserve.
0:21
SPEAKER_03: Welcome back.
0:23
SPEAKER_03: Welcome back.
0:24
SPEAKER_03: Welcome back.
0:25
SPEAKER_01: Finally back.
0:26
SPEAKER_01: So good to be back with everybody.
0:28
SPEAKER_03: Okay, we're gonna tell you a story.
0:30
SPEAKER_03: Let me go get part of the story.
0:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
0:33
SPEAKER_03: So we want to make sure you guys understand why we were off.
0:37
SPEAKER_03: So this is the camera we normally use when we've been going live, right?
0:43
SPEAKER_03: And so one of our sons was playing around with it.
0:45
SPEAKER_01: And our sons are all in their 20s.
0:47
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
0:48
SPEAKER_01: Let's just be clear about who was playing around with it.
0:50
SPEAKER_03: And we don't know why, but anyway, they were playing around with it.
0:52
SPEAKER_03: And when we put it on to go live, the day we were going live, we started seeing the rainbow colors behind us, and we're like, crap.
1:00
SPEAKER_03: It didn't work.
1:02
SPEAKER_03: So I took it to a camera shop here in Tampa.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: They had it for a few weeks.
1:07
SPEAKER_03: They had it for almost a month.
1:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:10
SPEAKER_03: And they brought it back.
1:11
SPEAKER_03: They're like, it's good to go.
1:12
SPEAKER_03: There's no red rainbow stuff.
1:14
SPEAKER_03: And we're like, great.
1:16
SPEAKER_03: We even tried it out there.
1:17
SPEAKER_03: When we got home, and Chris was trying to plug in the what was it?
1:22
SPEAKER_03: The power.
1:22
SPEAKER_03: The power cord.
1:23
SPEAKER_03: It was loose.
1:24
SPEAKER_03: So Canon, you didn't check everything.
1:27
SPEAKER_03: But this is the culprit.
1:29
SPEAKER_03: Why?
1:30
SPEAKER_03: And then a couple months ago, I had bought one of those DJI pocket cameras, and I didn't know that you can do what we're doing right now.
1:40
SPEAKER_03: We happened to be coaching this weekend, and the coach's assistant happened to have one.
1:45
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, wait, you're streaming off of this little camera.
1:49
SPEAKER_03: So I took mine out because I carry it with me everywhere we go.
1:53
SPEAKER_03: And she showed me what I had to do.
1:57
SPEAKER_03: And a shout out to Megan in Portland from BDC me uh how to work it.
2:04
SPEAKER_03: So here we are.
2:05
SPEAKER_03: And after we're done, we're gonna take this camera out and put it away so nobody can touch it.
2:10
SPEAKER_01: No, we're not.
2:10
SPEAKER_01: We're locking the door and telling our grown-up kids that these aren't toys.
2:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, something like that.
2:15
SPEAKER_03: That should do the job.
2:16
SPEAKER_03: I'm not having anyone touch my camera again.
2:19
SPEAKER_01: But what's up, Victor?
2:20
SPEAKER_03: We are so glad to be back.
2:22
SPEAKER_03: It's been a while.
2:23
SPEAKER_03: And in the time that we were not having a camera, we had quite a few places that we were traveling for work.
2:29
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
2:29
SPEAKER_03: So we're super, super excited.
2:32
SPEAKER_03: Super.
2:33
SPEAKER_01: That's three supers.
2:34
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
2:34
SPEAKER_03: I wanted to address something today.
2:36
SPEAKER_03: Again, you saw Chris made a post a couple weeks ago, maybe two weeks ago, about if you see our logo, it's federal injury centers.
2:45
SPEAKER_03: We're nothing else.
2:47
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
2:48
SPEAKER_03: And somebody told me today that a competitor is hijacking all of our Wednesday night chats fans, saying that they're Wednesday, that they're helping them with Wednesday night chats.
2:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you something right now.
3:00
SPEAKER_03: If you're getting friend requests from somebody else where their cover page is screaming OWCP, that is not federal injury centers.
3:09
SPEAKER_03: That is not Wednesday night chats, and that is not Chris and Jeannie.
3:12
SPEAKER_03: There is only one Chris and Jeannie, one federal injury centers, and one Wednesday night OWCP chats where we have a following of over 18,000 followers.
3:21
SPEAKER_01: If you don't see our logo, it's not us.
3:22
SPEAKER_01: The other thing that was happening, and look, whatever, competition is inevitable in business.
3:26
SPEAKER_01: That's how it goes.
3:27
SPEAKER_01: So I'm not mad at competition.
3:28
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:29
SPEAKER_01: But there's a lot of confusion about who's this?
3:31
SPEAKER_01: Is this you?
3:31
SPEAKER_01: Is this you?
3:32
SPEAKER_01: And so somebody also, we know who the somebody is, but I'm trying not to get myself sued.
3:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
3:37
SPEAKER_01: Sent a brochure to people's home addresses.
3:39
SPEAKER_01: How the heck did they get your home address?
3:41
SPEAKER_01: Good question.
3:42
SPEAKER_01: Not from us.
3:43
SPEAKER_01: But it wasn't us.
3:44
SPEAKER_01: We respect your privacy.
3:45
SPEAKER_01: So if you receive a brochure and it says anything other than federal injury centers, it ain't us.
3:53
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:53
SPEAKER_03: So, yes, we are FIC.
3:56
SPEAKER_03: We are federal injury centers.
3:58
SPEAKER_03: We are not anything else.
3:59
SPEAKER_03: If it doesn't say federal injury centers and it says something else with federal.
4:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't care if the third word starts with a C.
4:05
SPEAKER_01: Federal injury, anything.
4:07
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
4:08
SPEAKER_01: If it's not centers, it ain't us.
4:09
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
4:10
SPEAKER_03: So we are glad to be back.
4:12
SPEAKER_01: Ain't business great.
4:14
SPEAKER_03: We've done so much.
4:15
SPEAKER_03: We've been working in the background, trying to get you guys so much more help and what we're going to be talking about and where everything is going.
4:21
SPEAKER_01: And honestly, the things that we have coming, even for those of you that have followed us since day one, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna tell you yet, but the things that's coming is gonna blow your mind.
4:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so we'll by August, September, you'll hear from us with uh something awesome, and we're really excited.
4:40
SPEAKER_01: The problem is if I tell you now, we'll be underwater tomorrow.
4:43
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
4:44
SPEAKER_01: So we got to time things just right.
4:45
SPEAKER_01: But yeah, we got some really big things coming.
4:47
SPEAKER_01: Even though we've been gone for a few weeks, all we've done is work on what we can do for you next.
4:53
SPEAKER_01: And what's next is huge.
4:55
SPEAKER_03: We just got back from LA with a bunch of federal employees out there that we visited and hanging out.
5:01
SPEAKER_03: It was good to be in California, and we're gonna leave it at that.
5:05
SPEAKER_03: I wanted to give a shout out to Linda.
5:07
SPEAKER_03: I told you I was gonna give you a shout-out today when you messaged me.
5:11
SPEAKER_03: I just want to let you guys know that I don't get my messages right away when you get it.
5:16
SPEAKER_03: And I'm so sorry.
5:17
SPEAKER_03: I now that we're back in the grind of things, I'm gonna pay attention and make sure questions are answered within 24 hours, and I apologize.
5:25
SPEAKER_03: And what happens if you guys have, and it's not a problem, if you guys have a major question where you're writing a lot, it's fine.
5:31
SPEAKER_03: I'm not stopping you from doing that.
5:33
SPEAKER_03: But what happens is I screenshot it, copy and paste it, and I always ask you for your number.
5:38
SPEAKER_03: It's because we have one of our national case managers, Jennifer, and I always tell you, Jennifer will be calling you.
5:43
SPEAKER_03: I send it over to her.
5:44
SPEAKER_03: So you have to remember she's also a company trainer, so she gets behind a little bit.
5:49
SPEAKER_03: But if you haven't heard from her within 24 to 48 hours, just reach back out and say you didn't get a call and should she will get with you.
5:56
SPEAKER_03: So please be patient.
5:58
SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of you and only I think like 12 of us.
6:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but I count for 20 people all by myself.
6:04
SPEAKER_01: So I think I can handle it.
6:05
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
6:06
SPEAKER_03: So today.
6:07
SPEAKER_01: Gosh, Chris, you sure sound cocky.
6:09
SPEAKER_01: I've been gone six weeks.
6:10
SPEAKER_01: What do you want from me?
6:11
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
6:11
SPEAKER_01: I've got a lot of pent up stuff.
6:13
SPEAKER_01: So it's gonna probably come out a little bit tonight.
6:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
6:15
SPEAKER_03: And we know the competitors are watching, and I don't care.
6:18
SPEAKER_03: So hi.
6:20
SPEAKER_01: That was like my forest gut hello.
6:22
SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
6:22
SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
6:23
SPEAKER_03: What else?
6:24
SPEAKER_03: What else, Chris?
6:24
SPEAKER_03: While I continue to share.
6:26
SPEAKER_01: No, it's just I've been thinking, gosh, probably should put something out there.
6:30
SPEAKER_01: There's probably somebody that needs some help.
6:32
SPEAKER_01: And if you're one of those people, you're definitely in the right place.
6:36
SPEAKER_01: Jeannie and I have been doing this since 2016.
6:38
SPEAKER_01: And the first time we ever she ever brought this up to me, I said, this is a terrible idea.
6:43
SPEAKER_01: Who is going to watch a show about WorkersComp?
6:45
SPEAKER_01: And it turns out millions of people.
6:48
SPEAKER_01: So I was wrong happily.
6:49
SPEAKER_01: But that just means that there is a there's a deficit in information understanding in OWCP.
6:54
SPEAKER_01: And if you're somebody that is confused or needs some information, tonight is the night to ask your questions.
7:00
SPEAKER_01: Whatever problems you're having tonight, I expect you not to have that problem tomorrow.
7:04
SPEAKER_01: She likes to play this game called Stump the Chump.
7:07
SPEAKER_01: She thinks I'm it, but I've never been stumped.
7:10
SPEAKER_01: I don't plan on starting tonight.
7:12
SPEAKER_01: I do have a great topic for you.
7:14
SPEAKER_03: Yes, let's go.
7:15
SPEAKER_01: And we'll get into that.
7:16
SPEAKER_01: But my topic is essentially how to prevent supervisors from doing the nonsense they do.
7:23
SPEAKER_01: And I've spent a lot of time talking to people about this and getting ideas because I like to have outside information too.
7:30
SPEAKER_01: So I have lifelines.
7:31
SPEAKER_01: Victor's on here, he's one of them.
7:33
SPEAKER_01: I've got people that when I've got questions, I go and ask.
7:36
SPEAKER_01: I say, What do you think?
7:37
SPEAKER_01: So you're in the middle of this stuff every day.
7:39
SPEAKER_01: What do you think?
7:40
SPEAKER_01: And so I've got something interesting tonight.
7:43
SPEAKER_01: One of the big problems that people have is that supervisors don't follow the rules.
7:48
SPEAKER_01: Now, if you're sitting there with your shocked face, wipe it off because you all know this is true.
7:53
SPEAKER_01: Supervisors don't follow the rules.
7:54
SPEAKER_01: I think often they don't know the rules.
7:56
SPEAKER_01: But those that do know the rules often still just don't follow them because they don't care.
8:02
SPEAKER_01: There's a lady in Utah who is told what a rule is, and she says, that doesn't apply to me.
8:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I don't even know how to overcome that.
8:11
SPEAKER_01: And then I thought about it.
8:12
SPEAKER_01: I do know how to overcome that.
8:14
SPEAKER_01: And here's how document everything.
8:17
SPEAKER_01: What we're gonna do is we're gonna get ourselves in a mode where we're telling supervisors, if you're gonna do this, then you're gonna acknowledge that you know what you're doing is wrong.
8:27
SPEAKER_01: And I'm gonna have that as my proof that you're just trying to screw me over.
8:32
SPEAKER_01: And in my world, I don't like you guys to get screwed over.
8:35
SPEAKER_01: I'm here, and our whole purpose is to prevent you from being screwed over.
8:40
SPEAKER_01: It's like us against management.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: And I can't step into that area where management is, but your unions can.
8:48
SPEAKER_01: And that's why we work so closely with unions.
8:50
SPEAKER_01: And then, of course, inevitably I get, ah, Chris, you're just carrying water for the unions.
8:54
SPEAKER_01: Maybe a little bit.
8:55
SPEAKER_03: But we have to help you that way because so we have to get with them.
8:59
SPEAKER_01: If I could do what they can do, I would do it.
9:02
SPEAKER_01: But I can't.
9:03
SPEAKER_01: Following grievances, I can't do it.
9:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm not gonna help you file an EEO, uh labor board charge.
9:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to your inspector general.
9:10
SPEAKER_01: Those are things that are outside of my scope.
9:12
SPEAKER_01: And so, yes, I really do love that you have unions, and I think you should all be involved.
9:18
SPEAKER_01: The small dues that you have to pay monthly are a small fee to get the big things that they can offer you.
9:25
SPEAKER_01: And that's just my experience because the friends that we have in the unions, which are many, are very strong and they love fighting for you.
9:32
SPEAKER_03: I'm reading some of these comments, and I swear I try to avoid reading them because I choke up with the things that you guys say.
9:38
SPEAKER_03: Just today, Chris and I got a message from a union president, and she said she's gonna support us 1,000% no matter what.
9:46
SPEAKER_03: And you know who you are.
9:48
SPEAKER_03: And I read it and I choked up.
9:50
SPEAKER_03: I started crying.
9:51
SPEAKER_03: We're so appreciative and so humbled and grateful to the way you guys have connected with us.
10:00
SPEAKER_03: And I say this, and you guys see my pictures all the time, especially on my personal page.
10:04
SPEAKER_03: I say there are people, complete strangers, that have become family members to us.
10:10
SPEAKER_03: Tammy Newman is one of them.
10:12
SPEAKER_01: Well so much, Tammy.
10:13
SPEAKER_03: We have so close to so many of you, and there's so many more of you out there, we just don't get to see you guys on a normal basis, but we have so many states full of federal employees from USPS, AFGE, FLIO, all the different agencies, associations, unions, everything.
10:32
SPEAKER_03: And we are so grateful.
10:35
SPEAKER_03: So if you see me choke up a little, that's why.
10:38
SPEAKER_03: So let me see what we got here.
10:39
SPEAKER_01: While you're seeing what we got, let me, I'm gonna talk a little bit about what we're gonna talk about.
10:43
SPEAKER_01: So, in order to prevent management from doing the thing they do that hurts your OWCP claims, we're gonna document everything.
10:50
SPEAKER_01: And here's how you're gonna do that text messages and emails, but I prefer email.
10:55
SPEAKER_01: When you report your injury, report it by email.
10:59
SPEAKER_01: Go to the supervisor afterwards and say, I just sent you an email.
11:04
SPEAKER_01: I'm letting you know that I'm filing an OWCP claim.
11:06
SPEAKER_01: It's a CA1 or a CA2, whatever.
11:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm just letting you know that I'm doing this.
11:11
SPEAKER_01: And in your email, you might want to say something like, I just want to confirm that you have the same understanding as I do, that you have to you have to turn everything in within 10 days to OWCP.
11:22
SPEAKER_01: That's the rule.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: I want to confirm your understanding that I am owed a CA 16 to pay my bills because I I reported my claim within seven days, my CA1 claim.
11:32
SPEAKER_01: And maybe I want to confirm with you your understanding that because I reported my injury within 30 days, that I'm eligible for continuation of pay, and I'm going to elect that.
11:41
SPEAKER_01: These are things that supervisors do.
11:43
SPEAKER_01: They tell you you have to go to the doctor they want you to go to.
11:46
SPEAKER_01: I'm just sending you an email, supervisor, just confirming your understanding of the role that I can choose my own doctor, and that you're supposed to let me know it's my right to choose a doctor.
11:56
SPEAKER_01: Could you just confirm for me by email that is your understanding as well?
12:00
SPEAKER_01: So you can put anything in an email.
12:02
SPEAKER_01: The one thing I wouldn't do is be hateful.
12:04
SPEAKER_01: Don't do that.
12:05
SPEAKER_01: Don't be sarcastic, which is again, that's a struggle for me because I live sarcasm.
12:10
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
12:10
SPEAKER_01: It's just what I am.
12:12
SPEAKER_01: So I'm telling you to do something that I would struggle not doing, but I don't think it's helpful to piss off your supervisors anymore.
12:19
SPEAKER_01: But always get it in writing.
12:20
SPEAKER_01: Whatever you think the problem's going to be, put them on notice that this is my understanding of the rules.
12:26
SPEAKER_01: You may even go further and say the code of federal federal regulations, CFR 10.whatever, says that I'm owed a CA 16 within four hours of the claimed injury.
12:35
SPEAKER_01: I just want to confirm your understanding of that same rule.
12:38
SPEAKER_01: And I'll be waiting patiently for the next four hours for my CA 16.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: But if you start putting this stuff in writing, it's really interesting because maybe the supervisor won't respond.
12:48
SPEAKER_01: Doesn't matter, you put it in writing.
12:49
SPEAKER_01: And so now when you have a dispute, you can say, I tried to communicate with my supervisor, but they ignored me.
12:57
SPEAKER_01: And I even use the exact rule.
12:59
SPEAKER_01: I use the same the code of federal regulations for the post office.
13:02
SPEAKER_01: I quoted the exact letter of the law on the Elm and they ignored it.
13:07
SPEAKER_01: So that's going to be beneficial to you.
13:09
SPEAKER_01: But the other thing that happens is they may come back and say, No, that's not right.
13:14
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
13:15
SPEAKER_01: Now I'm going to send this to the claims examiner because the claims examiner is the ultimate arbitrator of what happens.
13:21
SPEAKER_01: And so now we have the supervisor on record saying, I'm not going to follow that rule where you get a CA 16 within four hours of the claimed injury or whatever it is, right?
13:30
SPEAKER_01: Or where you reported your injury within 30 days, your CA1, and you're eligible for continuation of pay.
13:36
SPEAKER_01: So now if they say no, that's not my understanding, great, because you know you're right, because you follow the rules, or you heard me say something and you repeated it.
13:43
SPEAKER_01: Trust me, that's always correct.
13:45
SPEAKER_01: You give that to the claimed examiner.
13:47
SPEAKER_01: But the best thing possible is when the supervisor responds, yes, I agree, because they understand what you just did to them.
13:54
SPEAKER_01: You put them in a corner, there's no way out except for the truth, and anything else is going to hurt them.
13:59
SPEAKER_01: And then when they come back and say, Yes, that's my understanding too, come get your CA 16, or yes, that's my understanding too, I'll be sure and code your pay as continuation of pay.
14:07
SPEAKER_01: Yes, that's true.
14:08
SPEAKER_01: You can choose any doctor you want, no problem.
14:11
SPEAKER_01: Whatever the issue is, now you've got that on record too.
14:14
SPEAKER_01: Because one day their boss may come down on them, they may change their mind, and it's too late because you got it in writing.
14:22
SPEAKER_01: So I like doing everything in writing.
14:23
SPEAKER_01: And then the same thing with claims examiners.
14:25
SPEAKER_01: You want to send them stuff in writing because they have to respond to it.
14:28
SPEAKER_01: Just be patient, at least a little more than I can be.
14:31
SPEAKER_01: And so you'll get stuff from them.
14:33
SPEAKER_01: But I think that one of the things you can do to prevent supervisors and anybody in the system from screwing you over is get it all in writing, put it down in an email, and then whatever you say after that verbally is fine, but make sure you put everything in an email.
14:51
SPEAKER_01: That way you put them in a corner that the only way out of it is either to tell the truth or make themselves look like fools.
14:58
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
15:00
SPEAKER_01: Okay, let's see.
15:01
SPEAKER_01: Believe it or not, that was my entire topic.
15:03
SPEAKER_01: I love answering random questions.
15:05
SPEAKER_01: So whatever you got, ask those two.
15:07
SPEAKER_01: If you want to know what a CA16 is, or if you have a question about COP or what do you mean 30 days, seven days, this is the right time to ask those questions.
15:15
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:15
SPEAKER_03: And then we'll start talking about all the other topics now that we're moving forward.
15:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but the main thing I wanted you to hear tonight is that you don't have to just sit and take it.
15:24
SPEAKER_01: Putting things in writing is great.
15:26
SPEAKER_01: The other thing is you have this stuff in writing, now you can give it to your OIG.
15:29
SPEAKER_01: If you're a post postal employee, you can give it to your postal inspector.
15:32
SPEAKER_01: If things get really bad, you can send it to your congressman, which ask Tammy Newman.
15:38
SPEAKER_01: That works.
15:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:38
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
15:39
SPEAKER_03: And we're going to talk about that.
15:40
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:40
SPEAKER_01: So there's a there are a lot of things you can do when you put things in writing.
15:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
15:45
SPEAKER_01: So document.
15:46
SPEAKER_03: And we're going to tell you how to do that.
15:48
SPEAKER_03: Victor, a loyal fan here.
15:51
SPEAKER_03: Victor has become a part of our personal family.
15:54
SPEAKER_03: So you guys know.
15:55
SPEAKER_03: We love Victor very much.
15:56
SPEAKER_03: He's in the Orlando area and great guy.
15:59
SPEAKER_03: And if the competitors want to go ask him a few questions, they can because I know the answer Victor's going to give.
16:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
16:05
SPEAKER_03: Linda.
16:06
SPEAKER_03: Hey guys.
16:07
SPEAKER_03: So glad to be here.
16:09
SPEAKER_03: Wesley Miller.
16:10
SPEAKER_03: Glad you're here.
16:11
SPEAKER_03: Wesley Miller.
16:12
SPEAKER_03: Are you OWCP Connect?
16:14
SPEAKER_01: That's Andy, right?
16:15
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
16:15
SPEAKER_01: So OWCP Connect is a website that is owned by a friend of mine, actually.
16:20
SPEAKER_01: I met him when I lived in Texas.
16:22
SPEAKER_01: We're still friends.
16:23
SPEAKER_01: And he just, it's a directory.
16:26
SPEAKER_01: I it has nothing to do with me.
16:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
16:28
SPEAKER_01: Some of our franchisees advertise on that site, but that's a standalone site that's not me.
16:35
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:35
SPEAKER_01: But it's a great site.
16:36
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
16:38
SPEAKER_03: And we love Andy.
16:39
SPEAKER_01: We love Andy.
16:40
SPEAKER_03: Tammy.
16:40
SPEAKER_03: Hello, my people.
16:41
SPEAKER_03: Miss and love you guys.
16:42
SPEAKER_03: Well, you know where you stand, Tammy.
16:44
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
16:44
SPEAKER_03: We miss and love you too.
16:45
SPEAKER_03: And Tammy's another one.
16:46
SPEAKER_01: She's you're one of mine, Amy J.
16:50
SPEAKER_03: Hi.
16:51
SPEAKER_03: Hi.
16:52
SPEAKER_03: Victor, so I known you guys for 10 years.
16:56
SPEAKER_03: Probably.
16:56
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
16:57
SPEAKER_03: That's probably true.
16:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, 2016.
16:59
SPEAKER_03: Amanda Bone.
17:01
SPEAKER_03: How do you get the occupational nurse to get the CA7 so I can get paid?
17:06
SPEAKER_03: Been three pay periods on, still no paychecks.
17:10
SPEAKER_01: I'm so glad you asked that.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: So the occupational nurse actually has nothing to do with you getting paid with a CA7.
17:16
SPEAKER_01: Zero.
17:17
SPEAKER_01: So just forget the occupational nurse.
17:19
SPEAKER_01: What you do is you get a CA7, which you can find at my website, federal injurycenters.com.
17:25
SPEAKER_01: We have a forms tab.
17:26
SPEAKER_01: You can find it there.
17:27
SPEAKER_01: You can find it online anywhere else.
17:28
SPEAKER_01: Like just Google it.
17:29
SPEAKER_01: But it's easy to get it on my website.
17:31
SPEAKER_01: That's why you have it there.
17:32
SPEAKER_01: So you get the CA7.
17:34
SPEAKER_01: You may need a CA7A if your time is intermittent.
17:37
SPEAKER_01: It's called a time analysis form.
17:39
SPEAKER_01: Just fill these forms out.
17:40
SPEAKER_01: There's instructions on the forms.
17:42
SPEAKER_01: If you're confused, the instructions are there.
17:44
SPEAKER_01: We also have my partner Tom years ago made a video on how to fill out a CA7 and it goes box by box.
17:51
SPEAKER_01: So if you go to my website and look at videos, you'll find that also.
17:54
SPEAKER_03: It's also on YouTube as well.
17:56
SPEAKER_01: So exactly.
17:57
SPEAKER_01: What we're trying to do is make it easy for you to get paid.
17:59
SPEAKER_01: So you get it filled out right, and then you need to attach certain documentation.
18:03
SPEAKER_01: If you're out of work and it needs to be because the doctor took you off of work, not just because you decided to, then you need the CA 17, the duty status report.
18:12
SPEAKER_01: You want to attach a copy of that that shows I was out because my doctor said so.
18:16
SPEAKER_01: If you're out of work because you're at the doctor, you want to print out of your appointments, not your medical records, just a record of the appointment that you were there.
18:24
SPEAKER_01: There's a form called a CA20, an attending physician's report.
18:28
SPEAKER_01: Your doctor will need to fill that out as well.
18:30
SPEAKER_01: It's basically just saying, here's what's going on with this person.
18:33
SPEAKER_01: Here's the status.
18:34
SPEAKER_01: And then the last thing you need to get is what we call a disability narrative.
18:38
SPEAKER_01: And that's where the doctor is writing a narrative report.
18:41
SPEAKER_01: It's probably just a page.
18:42
SPEAKER_01: It could be as long as it needs to be.
18:44
SPEAKER_01: But this is your doctor explaining medically why those decisions were made.
18:47
SPEAKER_01: Medically, why are you off of work?
18:49
SPEAKER_01: And when you send those things in to the claims examiner, you're just going to e-comp it.
18:53
SPEAKER_01: When you send that stuff in, then you'll get paid with the caveat that your claim has to be accepted.
18:59
SPEAKER_01: If your claim is not approved, you can't get paid.
19:02
SPEAKER_01: And so we got to deal with that first.
19:04
SPEAKER_01: If your claim's not approved, let's deal with getting it approved.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: Because once it's approved, then you can get paid, right?
19:10
SPEAKER_01: But go ahead and send in your CA 7s, whether they're approved or not, because you also only have 12 months from the time that you took off to ask for reimbursement.
19:19
SPEAKER_01: Whether your claim is approved or not, get it in.
19:23
SPEAKER_01: Once your claim is approved, then you just get a hold of your claims examiner again and say, hey, claims approved.
19:28
SPEAKER_01: Go ahead and check out my CA sevens and pay me.
19:30
SPEAKER_03: And this is her follow-up.
19:32
SPEAKER_03: I have filled out three and CA7A, but DOL says they are waiting from the occupational nurse to tell me, tell them my pay codes or pay scale.
19:41
SPEAKER_01: That doesn't make any sense to me at all.
19:45
SPEAKER_01: Because nowhere in the rules on claim for compensation does it say we need an occupational nurse to tell them my pay codes.
19:53
SPEAKER_01: That just doesn't make any sense.
19:55
SPEAKER_01: None of that sounds like something I've ever heard before.
19:58
SPEAKER_01: So somebody's making a mistake or telling you the wrong thing.
20:01
SPEAKER_01: But let's just say that is true.
20:04
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not saying that it wasn't said to you.
20:06
SPEAKER_01: I'm just saying that's not the rule.
20:08
SPEAKER_01: Then we need to find out who your occupational field nurse is and give them a call.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
20:13
SPEAKER_01: But they shouldn't have anything to do with you getting paid.
20:17
SPEAKER_01: They're not in the loop for the for getting paid claim for compensation.
20:22
SPEAKER_03: Tammy Newman.
20:24
SPEAKER_01: Tammy.
20:25
SPEAKER_03: These are the best of the best.
20:27
SPEAKER_03: Son's case was hard, but they finally are going to get my son paid after 11 years yesterday.
20:36
SPEAKER_03: So grateful and appreciative.
20:39
SPEAKER_03: So we were in California with doing federal work, and she happened to text Chris a letter.
20:48
SPEAKER_03: And Chris came in the room and said he's got to call Tammy right away.
20:51
SPEAKER_03: And his eyes were all bloodshot.
20:53
SPEAKER_03: And I was like, not bloodshot.
20:54
SPEAKER_01: It's not like I was like drinking the night before.
20:56
SPEAKER_01: No, he was bloodshot because he was emotionally happy.
20:59
SPEAKER_03: And now you're gonna tell them.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: This was I don't want to take advantage of my friend Scott, so I'm not trying to look.
21:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't need recognition.
21:09
SPEAKER_01: I've never looked for, hey, look at me, pat me on the back.
21:13
SPEAKER_01: I did something good.
21:15
SPEAKER_01: But years and years ago, how many years?
21:18
SPEAKER_01: 11.
21:18
SPEAKER_03: Now she said 11.
21:19
SPEAKER_01: Forever ago.
21:19
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
21:20
SPEAKER_01: Tammy called and said, My son had an accident at work.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: Will you help me?
21:24
SPEAKER_01: And it was an extreme accident.
21:25
SPEAKER_01: It was like the worst thing I've ever heard of in my life.
21:28
SPEAKER_01: And it's one of those things that nobody ever gets approved.
21:31
SPEAKER_01: And I just said, Again, cocky Chris, my first thought is I can fix that.
21:36
SPEAKER_01: Nobody's ever done it before, ever in the history of the world, but I can do it.
21:40
SPEAKER_01: But I told her, listen, just don't give up.
21:42
SPEAKER_01: As long as you never quit, I'll never quit.
21:44
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
21:45
SPEAKER_01: Eight years later, we got the claim approved.
21:47
SPEAKER_01: It was the impossible claim, and it got approved.
21:49
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
21:50
SPEAKER_01: And the way we got it approved is just it's too complicated.
21:53
SPEAKER_01: The hoops we had to jump through.
21:55
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
21:55
SPEAKER_01: The path we had to take was unorthodox, to say the least.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: But we got it done.
22:01
SPEAKER_01: Nobody else would have done that.
22:03
SPEAKER_01: In fact, some other doctors that I know gave up on them.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: But I didn't.
22:06
SPEAKER_01: I just found a new doctor.
22:07
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
22:08
SPEAKER_01: Just I just kept finding a new one.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: New one.
22:10
SPEAKER_01: Just do what I'm telling you.
22:11
SPEAKER_01: I can't make medical decisions, but I understand the system better than anybody else.
22:15
SPEAKER_01: We got the claim approved.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: It was the impossible claim.
22:18
SPEAKER_01: And then after getting it approved, which was a miracle, they got a notice that, okay, he's going to get paid for all this time that he was off, which is the correct thing.
22:27
SPEAKER_01: And then it never happened.
22:28
SPEAKER_01: And then years later, he wasn't paid for all these years off.
22:32
SPEAKER_01: And I'm talking years off, okay?
22:33
SPEAKER_01: We're talking about a big number.
22:35
SPEAKER_01: And so Tammy, a few weeks ago, told me that that happened, that he's still not getting paid, and sent me all the information.
22:42
SPEAKER_01: I did some mental processing and put together a letter.
22:46
SPEAKER_01: I said, send this letter to the claims examiner, copy it to your congresspeople.
22:49
SPEAKER_01: Let's see what happens.
22:51
SPEAKER_01: And three weeks later, she got a letter saying that said, All right, we're gonna pay him.
22:56
SPEAKER_01: And it's the most emotional thing for me.
22:59
SPEAKER_01: There's nothing that I've ever been a part of in OWCP that makes me more proud and happy and sad all at the same time.
23:06
SPEAKER_01: But the bottom line is they didn't quit.
23:09
SPEAKER_01: We didn't, I would never, ever.
23:11
SPEAKER_01: In fact, if they gave up, I'd probably still fight for the case.
23:14
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
23:14
SPEAKER_01: Because the case is a living, breathing thing.
23:16
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna handle it no matter what.
23:18
SPEAKER_01: But everything worked out, except for the injury, which is tragic, and I hate that it ever happened.
23:23
SPEAKER_01: But once the injury happens, you have every right to get every benefit afforded to you as a federal worker.
23:29
SPEAKER_01: Every benefit, you have every right.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: And that's my perspective.
23:33
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to leave a single thing on the table.
23:36
SPEAKER_01: Not a dollar, not a day, not a right, a statute.
23:39
SPEAKER_01: I want to leave anything undone.
23:41
SPEAKER_01: You have a right to everything.
23:43
SPEAKER_01: And that's what we do.
23:44
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
23:45
SPEAKER_01: And anyways, Tammy, I appreciate you saying that.
23:47
SPEAKER_01: But ultimately, the reason it worked out is because you and Scott never quit.
23:52
SPEAKER_03: Correct.
23:53
SPEAKER_01: And you gave me a gave me a fighting chance to fire for you.
23:57
SPEAKER_03: Victor, you guys know you have our support.
23:59
SPEAKER_03: Oh, I know.
24:00
SPEAKER_03: I know.
24:00
SPEAKER_03: Oh, we know the state of Florida, we know.
24:04
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
24:06
SPEAKER_03: Maria, my CE doesn't respond.
24:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh, we hear this all the time.
24:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you gotta leave a voicemail.
24:14
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you did.
24:15
SPEAKER_01: The voicemails are supposed to be transcribed into a document, and all documents have to be responded to by the claims examiner.
24:22
SPEAKER_01: But if you're not, then your next voicemail should be I'd like to escalate this to the supervisor or to the district manager or whatever.
24:30
SPEAKER_01: And if you still don't get a response, I'm telling you that letter to your congressperson is gold.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: It is because the head of whatever district office at OWCP is, does not want to deal with a congressman.
24:44
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
24:45
SPEAKER_01: They don't want to deal with it.
24:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
24:47
SPEAKER_01: And usually if it has to get escalated to Congress, it was the claim examiner made a mistake.
24:52
SPEAKER_01: Somebody did something wrong.
24:54
SPEAKER_01: So that's a good way to do it.
24:55
SPEAKER_03: And here's the funny part.
24:56
SPEAKER_03: And we just got invited again for next year's training for claims examiners.
25:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I love it.
25:02
SPEAKER_03: I I we trained them three times already now.
25:04
SPEAKER_01: And look, I'm not bad-mouthing claims examiners.
25:07
SPEAKER_01: The ones I've met are actually fantastic people.
25:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they were more like the supervisory of the claims.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: These are really good people, and they clearly care.
25:14
SPEAKER_01: The ones that have the most questions and comments in a class that I teach are the claims examiners.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: They're really all in.
25:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:20
SPEAKER_01: So anything I say is not meant to be bad towards claims examiners.
25:23
SPEAKER_01: There's just a few of them compared to you.
25:25
SPEAKER_01: And so they're overwhelmed.
25:26
SPEAKER_01: There's not many of them, and there's nearly three million of you.
25:30
SPEAKER_01: So again, I always say, be patient, but I have no patience.
25:33
SPEAKER_01: So me telling you to be patient's Connie.
25:35
SPEAKER_03: Carly, one of our girls.
25:38
SPEAKER_03: The last person who got hurt in our office and asked for paperwork, she asked the postmaster, sat on his heels, came heels.
25:46
SPEAKER_03: I came in because she called me.
25:48
SPEAKER_03: I asked, Where is her paperwork?
25:50
SPEAKER_03: He told me I don't have time.
25:52
SPEAKER_03: I told him she asked you and an hour ago, and exactly three hours before you committed a felony, and I will document everything.
26:01
SPEAKER_03: She had the paperwork in her hand and 10 minutes in the ER.
26:04
SPEAKER_03: It would have, it wouldn't have been like that without both of you.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what the felony was.
26:09
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying it wasn't one, but the the supervisor certainly is on the clock.
26:14
SPEAKER_01: They have four hours to give a CA 16.
26:16
SPEAKER_01: That's clear, like 100%.
26:18
SPEAKER_01: The thing with Carly is she's a pit bull.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't mess with her.
26:21
SPEAKER_03: No, don't.
26:22
SPEAKER_03: She's she's she's little.
26:24
SPEAKER_03: I think she's I think Carly, what, you're like four, nine, five foot.
26:27
SPEAKER_03: And she's she's big.
26:29
SPEAKER_03: She's a killer.
26:30
SPEAKER_03: She will get you.
26:31
SPEAKER_03: She's big on the inside.
26:32
SPEAKER_03: Victor, correct me if I'm wrong.
26:34
SPEAKER_03: We have three years to report on the job injury.
26:37
SPEAKER_01: You know you're right, Victor.
26:39
SPEAKER_01: Yes, you have three years, and I'm glad you brought that up.
26:42
SPEAKER_01: If you are injured and you think it's too late, it's probably not.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: You have three years from the date of injury on a CA1 claim, which is something that happened in a single shift.
26:50
SPEAKER_01: You can still report it three years later.
26:53
SPEAKER_01: And on a CA2, which is something that develops over time, like carpal tunnel syndrome, you have three years from the point that you reasonably were aware that it's work related.
27:02
SPEAKER_01: In other words, you have three years from when the doctor says, Hey, isn't this a work injury?
27:07
SPEAKER_01: Now you have three years.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
27:09
SPEAKER_01: Rachel Shaw.
27:11
SPEAKER_01: Carly, she said, I didn't know if it was a felony, but he didn't know.
27:15
SPEAKER_03: And she said, I didn't know.
27:16
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
27:17
SPEAKER_03: I love it.
27:18
SPEAKER_03: And he didn't want to give the paperwork in four hours.
27:21
SPEAKER_01: I don't care what he wants.
27:22
SPEAKER_01: The rules are the rules.
27:23
SPEAKER_03: Rachel Shaw.
27:25
SPEAKER_03: Oh, those of you that are watching from my personal page, Surogeny Helms, and you're wondering where all these questions are coming from, you have to come over to the Wednesday night Facebook page, Wednesday night OWCP chats, because somebody said, Where are you guys coming up with the random questions?
27:39
SPEAKER_03: It's be I don't know why.
27:41
SPEAKER_01: We're just making it up, isn't it?
27:43
SPEAKER_03: I don't know why when we connect our stream, it doesn't put all the questions on all the pages.
27:48
SPEAKER_03: So I have to figure that out.
27:50
SPEAKER_03: But if you're wondering where the questions are and who's asking, come over to Wednesday night chats and you'll see the questions.
27:56
SPEAKER_03: Rachel Shaw said, if my claim was denied and I have not found an OWCP neurologist, my regular neurologist can't help with the claim, but has filled out CA 17s, what can I do next?
28:08
SPEAKER_01: Wait, read that again.
28:09
SPEAKER_03: If my claim was denied and I have not found an OWCP neurologist, my regular neurologist said he can't help with the claim, but has filled out CA 17s.
28:21
SPEAKER_03: What can I do next?
28:23
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so that's an interesting question.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: What you're saying is a specialist won't help me.
28:27
SPEAKER_01: That's not uncommon because specialists don't understand how to get a claim accepted.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: And you have to understand medical is a business, healthcare is a business.
28:36
SPEAKER_01: Doctors like to get paid for the stuff they do.
28:39
SPEAKER_01: But when the claim's not accepted in OWCP, they don't get paid ever.
28:43
SPEAKER_01: And that's our policy at Federal Injury Center is if we can't get a claim approved, we don't deserve to get paid.
28:48
SPEAKER_01: Why should we get paid if you're not getting your benefits, right?
28:50
SPEAKER_01: But other doctors outside of my network don't share the same passion for you as we do.
28:57
SPEAKER_01: So what you really need to do is go find a doctor who is trained in OWCP, which won't be easy.
29:04
SPEAKER_01: It depends on where you're located.
29:05
SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it's easy, sometimes it's not.
29:07
SPEAKER_01: And then that doctor can get your claim approved and then refer you to a specialist who will get paid, and then they'll be so happy to help you.
29:14
SPEAKER_01: And the treating doctor, the new doctor who is an OWCP trained expert, can handle your CA 17s instead of the neurologist.
29:22
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
29:22
SPEAKER_01: It's not easy and it's frustrating, but that's the way you should go.
29:26
SPEAKER_01: Your specialist generally is not an OWCP specialist.
29:30
SPEAKER_03: Maria, hi from FIC Springland in Auburn.
29:33
SPEAKER_01: What's up?
29:35
SPEAKER_03: Maria.
29:36
SPEAKER_01: Reminded me of that commercial.
29:38
SPEAKER_01: Remember that?
29:39
SPEAKER_01: What's that?
29:42
SPEAKER_01: Numb.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: When they did for the World Cup.
29:47
SPEAKER_03: Maria, I just filed a congressional Sunday night.
29:50
SPEAKER_03: Got my CE movement done by Tuesday.
29:53
SPEAKER_03: See?
29:54
SPEAKER_01: That's the way that works.
29:55
SPEAKER_03: See how that works that fast.
29:57
SPEAKER_01: Congress, they're not getting much done anyways.
29:59
SPEAKER_01: They may as well do this though for you.
30:01
SPEAKER_01: You can't agree on anything.
30:02
SPEAKER_03: Robin Cox, my latest form 50 says my FEGLI is canceled after 365 days of LWAP.
30:13
SPEAKER_03: I was paying the bill, then OWCP paid the bill.
30:16
SPEAKER_03: Now I received another new bill.
30:18
SPEAKER_01: Okay, I don't know what F-E-G-LI is, and we're not playing stump the chump tonight.
30:23
SPEAKER_03: So you're gonna have to help us out.
30:24
SPEAKER_03: Let me know what that is.
30:25
SPEAKER_03: Victor, Victor, help us out.
30:27
SPEAKER_01: And let me know what that is, and then I'm gonna answer your question thoroughly.
30:31
SPEAKER_03: Monica.
30:32
SPEAKER_01: Could you do me a favor and just reread that question though?
30:34
SPEAKER_01: I want to be thinking about it.
30:36
SPEAKER_03: My latest Form 50 says my FEGLI is canceled after 365 days of LWAP.
30:44
SPEAKER_03: I was paying the bill, then OWCP paid the bill, now I received a new bill.
30:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know why what bill you'd be paying related to OWCP.
30:52
SPEAKER_01: It should be no bills.
30:53
SPEAKER_01: So I'm gonna need a little more information.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: Sorry.
30:55
SPEAKER_03: Monica Shirley, who fills the bottom of the first page of the CA16?
31:02
SPEAKER_01: The first page is filled out by the supervisor.
31:08
SPEAKER_01: So supervisor.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: The second page is what you take to the doctor, and the doctor fills that out.
31:13
SPEAKER_01: But I would keep a copy of all of it.
31:15
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
31:16
SPEAKER_03: Miss Moore, hello.
31:18
SPEAKER_01: Hello.
31:19
SPEAKER_01: Melissa said FEGLI is our federal life insurance policy.
31:22
SPEAKER_01: Oh, that's when you have to pay it.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's you, yeah.
31:26
SPEAKER_01: You have to pay that if you're not, if it's not being deducted from your paycheck and you don't want to lose it, you got to pay it.
31:32
SPEAKER_03: Miss Moore, let me read your question.
31:33
SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna hop over to my page.
31:35
SPEAKER_03: Question How long does a second opinion report stay in QTC for review before the claims examiner receives the report?
31:43
SPEAKER_03: Also, the second opinion agreed that I need a spinal fusion for my L4, L5, S1.
31:52
SPEAKER_03: How would I submit my back pay since I've been off work since January 23rd, 2026?
31:58
SPEAKER_03: It was a CA2.
32:01
SPEAKER_01: You submit your back pay using a CA7.
32:04
SPEAKER_01: That's how that works.
32:05
SPEAKER_01: But your claim has to be approved to get paid.
32:07
SPEAKER_01: But go ahead and submit the CA7 anyway, so stop the one-year clock.
32:11
SPEAKER_01: Just get that in.
32:12
SPEAKER_01: And from there, it's just a matter of getting your claim accepted.
32:15
SPEAKER_01: And once it's accepted, everything just starts falling into place.
32:17
SPEAKER_01: But back pay is handled with the CA7 after your claim is approved.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: And I don't know why I feel like I missed something there.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
32:23
SPEAKER_01: We're not playing Stump the Chump, but I can't even remember a whole question tonight.
32:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I'll go ahead.
32:27
SPEAKER_01: Am I getting old?
32:28
SPEAKER_01: You're getting he's old.
32:30
SPEAKER_03: A big five-one.
32:31
SPEAKER_01: Don't let the gray hair fool you.
32:33
SPEAKER_01: I'm old.
32:34
SPEAKER_03: AJ.
32:35
SPEAKER_03: AJ's another family member of ours.
32:37
SPEAKER_03: AJ.
32:38
SPEAKER_03: AJ and Brian.
32:39
SPEAKER_03: She said my boy I said hi.
32:42
SPEAKER_03: Oh, wait.
32:42
SPEAKER_03: Melissa Ross.
32:43
SPEAKER_03: How are you, Melissa?
32:44
SPEAKER_03: She's been a longtime supporter.
32:46
SPEAKER_03: Well, she's the one I was answering the question for.
32:48
SPEAKER_03: Make sure you provide medical document.
32:50
SPEAKER_03: Okay, this is for all you people in USPS.
32:53
SPEAKER_03: She's giving some advice.
32:54
SPEAKER_03: She always gives great advice.
32:56
SPEAKER_03: Make sure you provide medical documentation for being out of work within 10 days to keep getting COP.
33:03
SPEAKER_03: They will stop your CO COP if you don't provide medical documentation.
33:08
SPEAKER_03: You can send your medical documentation to the district nurse or to your district OWCP control office.
33:15
SPEAKER_01: Truthfully, you can just e-comp it.
33:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: She's right.
33:17
SPEAKER_01: Those two things work as well.
33:18
SPEAKER_01: You can just e-comp it.
33:19
SPEAKER_01: But the code of federal regulations says that regarding COP, you can lose it if your doctor doesn't turn medical documentation in within 10 days.
33:28
SPEAKER_01: You can also lose it if your doctor on your CA 17 says that you go back to work full duty when you're not actually ready.
33:35
SPEAKER_01: And we love you to go back to work.
33:37
SPEAKER_01: It's my favorite thing ever.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: But some doctors will say, especially urgent cares, take three days off and go back full duty.
33:43
SPEAKER_01: That just means that there's no longer any temporary disability from OWCP.
33:47
SPEAKER_01: And so they don't have to pay you COP and they'll cut it off.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: So you want to pay close attention to your CA 17 and communicate with your doctor.
33:55
SPEAKER_01: If it's true that you can go back to work, that's awesome and great, because the surest way to get paid is to clock in.
34:00
SPEAKER_01: But if you really can't work and going back would hurt you, then you want to make sure you communicate with your doctor and your CA 17 goes along with your real status so you don't lose COP.
34:12
SPEAKER_03: Vishal, how about worker comp workers comp?
34:16
SPEAKER_03: Okay, so what we do.
34:17
SPEAKER_03: We're talking about workers' comp.
34:18
SPEAKER_03: So what we do is federal workers comp.
34:21
SPEAKER_03: So if you're a federal employee, this page would apply to you.
34:26
SPEAKER_03: But if it's state workers comp, unfortunately.
34:28
SPEAKER_01: If you work for a private company, not a federal agency, that's a whole different system.
34:32
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's state workers comp.
34:34
SPEAKER_01: And unfortunately, the the rules are different in every state.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: It's impossible it's not impossible.
34:39
SPEAKER_01: I could, I guess technically, I could learn 50 states worth of rules, but there's not enough hours of the day.
34:44
SPEAKER_03: So Vishal.
34:45
SPEAKER_01: This is all just federal.
34:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, Vishal, if you have a question about federal workers' comp, we'll love to answer it.
34:50
SPEAKER_03: But if you have if you're trying to find somebody about state workers comp, tell me what state you're in.
34:55
SPEAKER_03: I'll probably connect you with somebody in that state.
34:57
SPEAKER_01: As long as it's federal, you're in the right place.
34:59
SPEAKER_01: If not, we're still glad to have you.
35:00
SPEAKER_03: AJ, hello, my loves.
35:02
SPEAKER_03: Miss you.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
35:04
SPEAKER_01: Can't wait to see you again.
35:05
SPEAKER_03: When does continuation of pay apply?
35:08
SPEAKER_03: And when do you start doing CA sevens?
35:11
SPEAKER_01: So COP applies when you have a CA1 injury, which is something that happens in a single shift, like you step off a curb and twist your ankle.
35:18
SPEAKER_01: That's a CA1.
35:20
SPEAKER_01: You have to report your injury within 30 days.
35:22
SPEAKER_01: But if you know me, the answer is report now, because if you wait 30 days, you're not getting a CA 16, which pays all your bills, medical bills.
35:30
SPEAKER_01: So you need to report right away.
35:32
SPEAKER_01: But as long as you report within 30 days, you're eligible for continuation of pay.
35:37
SPEAKER_01: Continuation of pay is good for up to 45 days of time off.
35:41
SPEAKER_01: That runs out if one of two things happens.
35:45
SPEAKER_01: One, you use up the 45 days, it runs out.
35:48
SPEAKER_01: Two, your claim is approved before that time is up.
35:50
SPEAKER_01: Once your claim is approved, there is no more COP because now you just file LWAP.
35:55
SPEAKER_01: When do you start filing CA7s for LWAP?
35:58
SPEAKER_01: As soon as COP is exhausted.
36:00
SPEAKER_01: Even if your claim's not accepted, you want to turn it in because you have to you have to turn it in within one year of the time off.
36:07
SPEAKER_01: So just start filling it out every two weeks and turning in just like you would for your regular pay period, punch in and punch out.
36:15
SPEAKER_01: That's how you get paid.
36:16
SPEAKER_01: But get your claim accepted, or you're never getting paid.
36:18
SPEAKER_03: Latanya Skinner.
36:21
SPEAKER_03: You guys are the best.
36:22
SPEAKER_03: I appreciate all you do.
36:24
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
36:25
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
36:26
SPEAKER_03: Appreciate that.
36:26
SPEAKER_03: Shout out to you.
36:27
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
36:27
SPEAKER_03: That's really glad you're here.
36:30
SPEAKER_03: Tanisha, if DOL approved the CA2 and the employee is receiving payment from DOL, is that a disability?
36:38
SPEAKER_03: Will you clarify what is disability under Department of Labor?
36:43
SPEAKER_01: So there's a difference between disability and temporary disability.
36:48
SPEAKER_01: When you're on OWCP and you're out of work, they call it that you're disabled from your job, but it's a temporary disability because you're going to get better and go back.
36:56
SPEAKER_01: So don't confuse disability with like Social Security or federal disability through the Office of Personnel Management.
37:04
SPEAKER_01: There's three totally different things.
37:06
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Social Security is a thing that has nothing to do with being a federal worker.
37:10
SPEAKER_01: Just anybody can have it if they meet the criteria.
37:13
SPEAKER_01: Federal disability through OPM is if you become disabled while you are a federal employee, but not necessarily as a result of your job.
37:22
SPEAKER_01: I wrote a book and I said, you're a federal employee, you're on vacation, you're fishing, and a shark bites your arm off.
37:27
SPEAKER_01: It had nothing to do with work, but now you're disabled.
37:30
SPEAKER_01: You are a federal employee, you have a right to disability.
37:33
SPEAKER_01: But in OWCP, disability just means the doctor has you out of work.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: That's it.
37:39
SPEAKER_01: Once you go back to work, there's no more disability.
37:42
SPEAKER_01: So there's three different definitions of disability.
37:45
SPEAKER_01: I hope that helped.
37:46
SPEAKER_03: Monica said, My claim was approved, but I'm receiving ER bills and other bills.
37:51
SPEAKER_03: I believe I need to turn the CA16 into the ER billing office.
37:54
SPEAKER_03: Is that correct?
37:56
SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
37:56
SPEAKER_01: You want to talk to the billing manager, give them your claim number, because you have a claim number.
38:01
SPEAKER_01: They probably have no idea how to bill OWCP.
38:04
SPEAKER_01: So you probably want to tell them contact, give them a phone number to contact, right?
38:09
SPEAKER_01: So they can do that because they have 12 months from the data service to bill it.
38:14
SPEAKER_01: If they wait 12 months in one day, they can't get paid, and you're never going to stop getting bills.
38:19
SPEAKER_01: So that's what you want to do.
38:20
SPEAKER_01: Just connect them with OWCP, even though they should be able to handle that themselves.
38:25
SPEAKER_01: It's your life and your money.
38:27
SPEAKER_01: So take the extra step and help them out.
38:29
SPEAKER_03: Monica said thank you.
38:31
SPEAKER_03: Supervisor didn't think it was him that had to fill it out.
38:33
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
38:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:34
SPEAKER_03: I had this question today, and I don't know if she's on here or not, but she showed me a blank CA 17 that restricts you from your work.
38:44
SPEAKER_03: She said, This is the way the supervisor gave it to her.
38:47
SPEAKER_03: And maybe that was you, Monica.
38:49
SPEAKER_03: I'm not sure.
38:50
SPEAKER_03: But I told you, and she said the supervisor was refusing and said no.
38:56
SPEAKER_03: So I told her what to do with the black Sharpie method.
38:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:59
SPEAKER_01: I don't like using the black Sharpie method unless you have to.
39:02
SPEAKER_01: What it is is let's say somebody hands you a like this supervisor gave you a Blake CA17, or they just wouldn't give you one.
39:09
SPEAKER_01: But in your case, they gave you a blank one and maybe they refused to fill it out, or maybe they were just misinformed and didn't understand.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
39:16
SPEAKER_01: That side A said supervisor and A comes before B, which says physician.
39:22
SPEAKER_01: Maybe they didn't realize that A comes before B, or maybe they didn't know what the word supervisor meant.
39:26
SPEAKER_03: Does A come for before B?
39:28
SPEAKER_03: Usually.
39:28
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
39:29
SPEAKER_01: So let's say that they willfully didn't fill it out or just didn't give it to you at all and said, no, I'm not giving it to you because I don't want you to be off.
39:37
SPEAKER_01: You have two options.
39:38
SPEAKER_01: One, you can take that pretty little CA17, turn on the side and on the supervisor side with a black sharpie right, supervisor refused.
39:45
SPEAKER_03: With their name in it.
39:46
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, with their name.
39:47
SPEAKER_01: Now we're not doing that to get them in trouble because nobody is helped by doing that.
39:52
SPEAKER_01: We're doing it because your doctor is going to have to fill out side B and turn it into the claims examiner.
39:57
SPEAKER_01: And the claims examiner, when they're really good claims examiners, are going to ask this question why isn't side A filled out?
40:04
SPEAKER_01: So we just answer the question in advance.
40:06
SPEAKER_01: So that's one way to do it.
40:07
SPEAKER_01: And usually you'll only have to do that once because the claims examiner doesn't like it that much.
40:11
SPEAKER_01: But there's another form called an OWCP5C, and it is what I call the alternative to a CA17.
40:19
SPEAKER_01: You can print those out off my website, or you can just Google it.
40:22
SPEAKER_01: You can do anything you want to get it.
40:24
SPEAKER_01: And your doctor can fill that out, and your supervisor has got to accept it when you hand it to them.
40:30
SPEAKER_03: We have FIC of DMV on watching tonight.
40:35
SPEAKER_03: Amanda, the last pay period supervisor put in a day of annual.
40:40
SPEAKER_03: How do I claim that or get it back?
40:42
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so this is going to be a union question, but I know that there's coding like in your payroll system, and they can code it as COP, regular, vacation, holiday, whatever.
40:53
SPEAKER_01: They've got to go and recode that.
40:55
SPEAKER_01: And I know they can because I've seen it done.
40:57
SPEAKER_01: But you may need some muscle.
40:59
SPEAKER_01: So talk to your union.
41:01
SPEAKER_03: Frank, good evening, guys.
41:03
SPEAKER_03: Welcome back, Frank.
41:04
SPEAKER_03: Frank, the next time we come to New York, where we have a couple days, we're going to get together with all of our federal friends out there and hang out.
41:11
SPEAKER_03: Can't hardly wait.
41:12
SPEAKER_01: We want to see you, Frank.
41:13
SPEAKER_01: And I really need some good pizza.
41:16
SPEAKER_01: I gotta have it.
41:17
SPEAKER_03: John, hello.
41:18
SPEAKER_03: I have a CA7.
41:20
SPEAKER_03: I have a seven CA7 sit, oh, seven CA settings sitting in the Q e-comp.
41:25
SPEAKER_03: They show develop, but that's all.
41:27
SPEAKER_03: Is there a time frame to hear any info if they will pay the CA7?
41:32
SPEAKER_01: There's no time frame in the rules, unfortunately.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: So if you feel like it's taking too long, you're just gonna have to call your claims examiner, leave a message, talk to the supervisor.
41:40
SPEAKER_01: And like with Tammy and Scott, if they don't pay you in a reasonable time, copy your representatives.
41:47
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
41:47
SPEAKER_01: Just copy them.
41:48
SPEAKER_01: Write a letter and copy them.
41:50
SPEAKER_01: That's all.
41:51
SPEAKER_03: Victor said, please go to eComp and file your claim.
41:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, all CA1s and CA2s and your claim for compensation, CA7, those are all filed using the e-comp system.
42:02
SPEAKER_03: DMV, we love you too.
42:05
SPEAKER_03: I wanted to, there's a question somebody sent me on Messenger, and I want to make this very clear because a lot of you don't understand, especially if you haven't been following us or you don't know the rules.
42:15
SPEAKER_03: The person got injured, they went to a walk-in clinic, number one, the worst thing, but it's okay if it's an emergency.
42:23
SPEAKER_01: You do what you gotta do.
42:25
SPEAKER_03: And they just were sent and they took when you go to the walk-in or emergency room, you just get those papers, your consultation.
42:32
SPEAKER_03: She submitted that to Department of Labor.
42:34
SPEAKER_03: Obviously, that's not what Department of Labor is looking for.
42:37
SPEAKER_03: So what they did is they wind up closing her case.
42:41
SPEAKER_03: So I had to, I told her to come on tonight, and hopefully you're on, and that way Chris can explain why they close your claim at$1,500.
42:51
SPEAKER_03: Well, or why your claim gets closed.
42:53
SPEAKER_03: So you gave the answer.
42:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I gave the answer.
42:55
SPEAKER_01: It's interesting.
42:56
SPEAKER_01: They will automatically close a case if it doesn't hit medical bills that reach$1,500.
43:03
SPEAKER_01: That's an arbitrary number.
43:04
SPEAKER_01: I didn't make it up myself.
43:06
SPEAKER_01: It's just how it goes.
43:07
SPEAKER_01: And so as soon as your claim hits$1,500, they'll just automatically reopen it.
43:12
SPEAKER_01: So it's not the end of the world.
43:14
SPEAKER_01: But I'm not a doctor, so I don't know what doctors are supposed to do medically.
43:18
SPEAKER_01: I know what each service that a doctor bills, I know what it pays.
43:22
SPEAKER_01: It's my business to know the business of it.
43:24
SPEAKER_01: But I don't know why they do it or when they do it or what their rationale is, because I'm not a doctor.
43:28
SPEAKER_01: But if they don't send in their bills, your claim's gonna get closed because it didn't hit$1,500.
43:34
SPEAKER_01: If they just do an office visit and they bill, I'm just picking around number,$250, and that's all they ever do.
43:40
SPEAKER_01: Your claim's gonna get closed until it hits$1,500.
43:44
SPEAKER_01: Now, maybe you're somebody that didn't need$1,500 of services because you got better.
43:49
SPEAKER_01: Maybe you just had a paper cut or you had a sprained finger or a sprained ankle and it just got better with an ice pack.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
43:55
SPEAKER_01: You're somebody that's never gonna hit$1,500, so your claim will get closed.
44:00
SPEAKER_01: Just how that goes, but they have this weird arbitrary role that if it doesn't hit 1500, they close the claim until it does.
44:07
SPEAKER_01: And at what time period?
44:09
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
44:09
SPEAKER_01: They just close it.
44:11
SPEAKER_03: So Carly's responding to the person that asked this question.
44:14
SPEAKER_03: If it's a city carrier and they mean tax code T-A-C-S, not tax, it's 071, she believes.
44:24
SPEAKER_01: Get that.
44:24
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:25
SPEAKER_01: So go look that up.
44:26
SPEAKER_03: Joanne on comp for 15 months, went for second opinion, waiting on a job offer from employer.
44:32
SPEAKER_03: What happens if they can't find me a job?
44:34
SPEAKER_03: Great question.
44:35
SPEAKER_03: We get this all the time.
44:36
SPEAKER_03: I freaking love that question.
44:37
SPEAKER_01: All right.
44:37
SPEAKER_01: So first of all, the employer is required to make every reasonable effort to find a job for you that matches your restrictions for your doctor's CA 17.
44:46
SPEAKER_01: When they find that offer, let's say they have one, they're required to give it to you in writing.
44:50
SPEAKER_01: They're also required to send it to the claims examiner.
44:53
SPEAKER_01: At which point the claims examiner will review it.
44:56
SPEAKER_01: And then the claims examiner will let you know whether or not it's a valid job offer.
45:00
SPEAKER_01: And if the claims examiner thinks it's a valid job offer, then they give you 30 days to review it with your doctor.
45:06
SPEAKER_01: I think you should go review it today.
45:07
SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't wait 30 days.
45:09
SPEAKER_01: The surest way to get paid is to clock in.
45:11
SPEAKER_01: So I'd want to get clocked in as soon as possible.
45:13
SPEAKER_01: But they give you that time.
45:15
SPEAKER_01: And then from there, if the doctor says, no, I disagree, this isn't a good offer, it doesn't match my CA 17, then they give you another 15 days to sort it out.
45:24
SPEAKER_01: So a total of up to 45 days.
45:26
SPEAKER_01: What happens is management puts it in front of you and says, sign it now.
45:30
SPEAKER_01: And you guys are signing under protest or signing under duress.
45:33
SPEAKER_01: But the word protest and the word duress do not appear in the rules anywhere, and they're not in the code of federal regulations.
45:39
SPEAKER_02: Yep.
45:40
SPEAKER_01: That's not the rule.
45:40
SPEAKER_01: The rule is you are given time to review it with your doctor because the CA 17 is a medical form that is meant to keep you safe at work.
45:49
SPEAKER_01: Nobody has the right to just make you sign it under duress.
45:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
45:53
SPEAKER_01: Do what you got to do.
45:55
SPEAKER_01: Your situation is your situation.
45:57
SPEAKER_01: I'm just telling you the rules.
45:58
SPEAKER_01: But if they can't find work for you, then you're just going to end up on the rolls, which means they'll eventually just start paying you every week without you having to fill out CA 7s.
46:08
SPEAKER_01: And your rationale for staying home is my supervisor couldn't find work for me when I wanted to work.
46:14
SPEAKER_01: And I think personally everyone should want to work.
46:17
SPEAKER_01: The easiest way to get paid is to clock in.
46:19
SPEAKER_01: There are no hoops to jump, no CA 7s to fill out, no documentation to get, no doctors have to write any reports.
46:25
SPEAKER_01: It's just the easiest thing, is just to be on the clock.
46:28
SPEAKER_01: And that's why we want you to get back to work even with limitations as soon as possible.
46:31
SPEAKER_01: But if your supervisor can't play that game, then you're at home getting paid.
46:35
SPEAKER_01: And what I'd recommend, I'm not a doctor.
46:38
SPEAKER_01: I would recommend you just go and get all the treatment necessary so you get better as fast as possible and get back to work.
46:43
SPEAKER_03: Yep.
46:43
SPEAKER_01: And in the meantime, you're getting paid.
46:45
SPEAKER_03: Frank says, sound good.
46:46
SPEAKER_03: We'll get Rich too.
46:48
SPEAKER_03: Of course, hello.
46:49
SPEAKER_03: If I came to New York and didn't see Richie Ray, he would just like No, it doesn't work for me.
46:55
SPEAKER_03: He would disown me.
46:56
SPEAKER_03: Listen to every everything.
46:57
SPEAKER_03: I know a lot of you see my Instagram, my TikTok, and Facebook, and Rich always comments and says the sweetest things to me.
47:05
SPEAKER_03: And people are probably like, Does Chris see this?
47:08
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
47:08
SPEAKER_03: Chris sees this.
47:09
SPEAKER_03: Richie's my boyfriend.
47:10
SPEAKER_03: Let me tell you, Richie Ray is my work husband in the union.
47:14
SPEAKER_03: That's it.
47:14
SPEAKER_03: That's my boyfriend.
47:15
SPEAKER_03: That's my hubby.
47:16
SPEAKER_03: Don't care.
47:17
SPEAKER_03: And that he and him and Chris are like bromance together.
47:20
SPEAKER_03: Love the guy.
47:21
SPEAKER_01: You should check out his podcast.
47:23
SPEAKER_01: Go to his podcast.
47:24
SPEAKER_01: The Hot House.
47:25
SPEAKER_01: Hot House.
47:25
SPEAKER_03: Hot House with Richie Ray.
47:27
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just uh a few weeks ago, I was actually the guest on there.
47:29
SPEAKER_01: So go you can go look that up.
47:30
SPEAKER_03: He is the one person out of all the agencies and all the union friends that I see that is on TikTok every single morning.
47:40
SPEAKER_03: And he starts off like this.
47:42
SPEAKER_03: Good morning.
47:43
SPEAKER_03: I love hearing him talk.
47:46
SPEAKER_03: He is all over social media.
47:47
SPEAKER_03: He's on TikTok.
47:49
SPEAKER_03: He just did this interview with John Cruz.
47:52
SPEAKER_03: And I think he was like right outside of Manhattan somewhere, sitting on a table.
47:56
SPEAKER_03: I thought it was awesome.
47:58
SPEAKER_03: So, Richie, you're doing a great job, and everybody should go follow.
48:01
SPEAKER_03: He has some great topics.
48:03
SPEAKER_03: We are guests sometimes.
48:04
SPEAKER_03: The last one I couldn't get on, Chris was on.
48:06
SPEAKER_03: I'll be a guest on his podcast.
48:08
SPEAKER_03: I don't know what he's going to ask me, but we'll figure it out.
48:10
SPEAKER_01: A little side note about Richie.
48:12
SPEAKER_01: Just a little while back, I was dealing with some pretty heavy stuff.
48:15
SPEAKER_01: I'm just going to leave it at that.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: Some pretty heavy stuff.
48:17
SPEAKER_01: And I was talking to him, and what Richie said to me actually put tears in my eyes.
48:22
SPEAKER_01: He's such a genuinely good guy.
48:25
SPEAKER_01: So it's worth a listen.
48:27
SPEAKER_01: Go listen to The Hot House.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
48:28
SPEAKER_01: He's so dedicated.
48:30
SPEAKER_01: It's totally worth it.
48:30
SPEAKER_03: He's so dedicated.
48:32
SPEAKER_03: Debbie, I haven't approved OWCP case.
48:35
SPEAKER_03: I was totally taken off work June 7th, 2026, but my injury happened December 28th, 2025.
48:44
SPEAKER_03: My last check was on June 18th.
48:48
SPEAKER_01: Well, so I got all the dates.
48:49
SPEAKER_01: What was the question?
48:50
SPEAKER_03: I haven't approved.
48:51
SPEAKER_03: I was totally taking off of work June 7th, but my injury happened December 28th.
48:56
SPEAKER_03: My last check was June 18th.
48:58
SPEAKER_01: So that's a statement.
48:59
SPEAKER_01: If there's a question that goes with that, I'm happy to answer the question.
49:03
SPEAKER_01: I was just making sure I didn't miss something there.
49:05
SPEAKER_01: I love answering questions.
49:07
SPEAKER_01: So if you got one, give it to me.
49:08
SPEAKER_03: Oh, here she goes.
49:09
SPEAKER_03: I have zero help with anything.
49:11
SPEAKER_03: I have literally have to look up everything on Google.
49:14
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
49:14
SPEAKER_03: You do.
49:15
SPEAKER_03: And this, Debbie, I know you can always send us a message on Messenger and we'll answer your questions.
49:22
SPEAKER_01: Facebook Messenger, just to be clear, not everybody like me.
49:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Messenger, what the heck is that?
49:27
SPEAKER_01: I never check my messages.
49:28
SPEAKER_01: Just so you can come on.
49:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you can come on my page or Wednesday night chats and we'll help you.
49:33
SPEAKER_03: It was so cute the other day, yesterday actually, late last night, somebody sent a message and I was just about to turn my phone off and go to sleep.
49:41
SPEAKER_03: And I answered it and I put Jeannie so people know that it's me responding.
49:45
SPEAKER_03: And the lady was like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe you're the girl on the chats messaging me.
49:51
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because it's our page.
49:54
SPEAKER_03: It's so cute.
49:55
SPEAKER_03: So it is me.
49:56
SPEAKER_03: It's either me or Chris.
49:57
SPEAKER_01: We're not famous, but it sure is nice to think so.
50:00
SPEAKER_01: It's cute.
50:01
SPEAKER_01: Me and Tom Cruise are best friends.
50:03
SPEAKER_03: Oh gosh, do you wish?
50:05
SPEAKER_03: Melissa Ross, you can do an escalation on the escalation tab in eComp.
50:11
SPEAKER_01: There you go.
50:11
SPEAKER_01: That's right.
50:12
SPEAKER_03: It is usually after, I believe, 14 or 21 days.
50:16
SPEAKER_03: You can submit an escalation for a CA7 CA7A being received.
50:21
SPEAKER_03: Boom.
50:22
SPEAKER_03: There you go.
50:22
SPEAKER_01: If you're not getting help from your claims examiner, submit an escalation on eComp.
50:27
SPEAKER_03: Maria said, Miss you, love you, need to come out and see you.
50:30
SPEAKER_01: She just wants to come to the beach.
50:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
50:33
SPEAKER_01: I don't blame her.
50:34
SPEAKER_01: Hell, I want to go to the beach.
50:35
SPEAKER_01: I live here and I never go.
50:37
SPEAKER_03: Camilla Saylor.
50:38
SPEAKER_03: Hello.
50:39
SPEAKER_01: Hey.
50:40
SPEAKER_03: If I'm out on OWCP for an extended period from back surgery, will my step increases stop?
50:48
SPEAKER_01: So there are certain things.
50:50
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to rely on some of my union friends here to answer this thoroughly, but there are certain things that don't continue to accrue.
50:56
SPEAKER_01: And you need to know what those things are.
50:57
SPEAKER_01: There are also some things where you have to start paying out of your pocket.
51:00
SPEAKER_01: So you want to know what those things are too.
51:02
SPEAKER_01: I'm actually just going to rely on Victor to he's here to answer that.
51:06
SPEAKER_01: But any of anybody else that knows the answer, that's the benefit of being on Wednesday Night Chats.
51:11
SPEAKER_01: That we've got a community of people that are helping.
51:13
SPEAKER_01: You're about to get the answer.
51:14
SPEAKER_01: Just hold tight.
51:16
SPEAKER_03: Kevin, do you have an office number?
51:18
SPEAKER_03: I can call and talk to someone.
51:19
SPEAKER_03: Too much a type.
51:20
SPEAKER_01: Send us the message.
51:21
SPEAKER_03: Send us the message on Messenger, and you know you can talk into the Messenger as well.
51:26
SPEAKER_03: Or if you'd like, go to our website, federal injury centers.com, click on locations, find a location that's convenient for you, and ask for the case manager, and you can ask them your question too.
51:38
SPEAKER_01: We've got so many people that are mentally equipped to answer your questions.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: We are fanatical about training our people.
51:47
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
51:48
SPEAKER_01: From the receptionist, the case manager to the doctor and everybody in between.
51:51
SPEAKER_01: Everyone in our offices can answer your questions.
51:54
SPEAKER_01: And if they don't know the answer, they just call me.
51:56
SPEAKER_03: Where did the Brian give me one minute?
51:58
SPEAKER_03: I'm going to tell you what Richie's It's not Hot House.
52:03
SPEAKER_01: H O T House?
52:04
SPEAKER_03: No, that's not him.
52:05
SPEAKER_03: Can you go with those?
52:06
SPEAKER_03: Let me go, let me find this for him.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: No, it doesn't stop.
52:09
SPEAKER_01: Great.
52:10
SPEAKER_01: So there's your answer.
52:10
SPEAKER_01: It does not stop.
52:12
SPEAKER_01: Tsp 401k stop, and you have to pay your dental and vision insurance out of your pocket.
52:19
SPEAKER_01: So there you go.
52:21
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
52:22
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for answering that question.
52:24
SPEAKER_01: That's amazing.
52:25
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
52:26
SPEAKER_03: Brian, where did you go?
52:27
SPEAKER_03: Is it Brian that asked the question?
52:29
SPEAKER_03: Brian, you're looking for Rich Way's TikTok.
52:32
SPEAKER_03: It is hot underscore house.
52:36
SPEAKER_03: And you'll see him in his mailman gear.
52:40
SPEAKER_03: He's wearing a hat and it looks like a suit, like one of those suits with a tie, and he's got the USPS logo on the right.
52:47
SPEAKER_03: So it's hot underscore house.
52:50
SPEAKER_03: Hot house with Richie Ray.
52:52
SPEAKER_03: And he's got, oh my, he's got so many hundreds of videos of TikTok videos.
52:59
SPEAKER_03: They're probably 10 minutes long because you know how TikTok is.
53:02
SPEAKER_03: But that's where you can find him.
53:04
SPEAKER_03: Also, you can find it on Instagram as well.
53:07
SPEAKER_03: Same name.
53:08
SPEAKER_01: And Brian, you're correct.
53:10
SPEAKER_01: Pay your union dues.
53:12
SPEAKER_01: You gotta pay your dues.
53:13
SPEAKER_01: You gotta pay your dues, guys.
53:14
SPEAKER_01: And what about family medical?
53:16
SPEAKER_01: When you're out of work, you're gonna have to make sure that's getting covered.
53:19
SPEAKER_01: Talk to your HR and make sure you got that all squared away.
53:22
SPEAKER_01: You may have to pay that out of pocket too for the time that you're out of work.
53:25
SPEAKER_01: And uh Maria says she's going to FIC Lakeland.
53:28
SPEAKER_01: I am not aware that we have a Lakeland office.
53:31
SPEAKER_01: You must think it's Lando Lakes.
53:34
SPEAKER_01: If not, I'd love to know where you're going.
53:37
SPEAKER_01: Take a picture.
53:38
SPEAKER_01: Because if somebody out there says they're us and they're not, I'd love to know that.
53:42
SPEAKER_03: All right.
53:43
SPEAKER_03: If you didn't catch us at the beginning, I'm gonna say it one more time.
53:46
SPEAKER_03: This right here, can you see it?
53:49
SPEAKER_03: That's our logo.
53:50
SPEAKER_03: Federal injury centers.
53:54
SPEAKER_03: We know the competitors are sending brochures out to your houses because the presidents have been calling me asking if it's us.
54:00
SPEAKER_01: And many of our competitors have decided to be tricky.
54:04
SPEAKER_01: And their name is Federal Injury Something that starts with a C.
54:08
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
54:08
SPEAKER_01: That's just that's dirty.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: That's not it.
54:10
SPEAKER_01: We're trying to deal with that, but be careful.
54:13
SPEAKER_01: There's cheap knockoffs.
54:14
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we know people have stolen the first part of our names.
54:17
SPEAKER_01: Okay, Landa Lakes, that's right.
54:18
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
54:18
SPEAKER_03: So it's Landa Lakes.
54:20
SPEAKER_03: Okay, you're good.
54:20
SPEAKER_03: You're good.
54:21
SPEAKER_01: I was about to go off.
54:23
SPEAKER_01: Who's still in my name in Lakeland?
54:25
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad you're at Landa Lakes.
54:27
SPEAKER_01: So that doctor is a friend of mine.
54:28
SPEAKER_01: I like him so much.
54:29
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad I didn't.
54:30
SPEAKER_01: Oh, Dr.
54:30
SPEAKER_01: Lee.
54:31
SPEAKER_01: Dr.
54:31
SPEAKER_01: Lee is so awesome.
54:32
SPEAKER_01: I'm glad you're having a good experience.
54:34
SPEAKER_03: Tanisha, TSP 401k, stop, and you have to pay your dental and vision out of your pocket.
54:42
SPEAKER_01: So that was based on the question like if you're out of work, what happens?
54:45
SPEAKER_03: Kevin, with all those the postal service is separating employees that have been out over a year, forcing you to retire, saying we can either take disability retirement or be cut off by Department of Labor.
54:58
SPEAKER_01: Let me explain why that is.
55:00
SPEAKER_01: If you are a city carrier, a clerk, or anything inside APW or a mail handler, and you're out of work, out for one year, they actually can remove you.
55:12
SPEAKER_01: So it's in your interest to get back as soon as possible.
55:15
SPEAKER_01: Rule carriers are two years.
55:17
SPEAKER_01: Don't ask me why the rule is that way, but it is the rule.
55:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
55:21
SPEAKER_01: Nobody likes it, but that's why I'm always saying there's no the surest way to get paid is to clock in.
55:26
SPEAKER_01: Also, the surest way to save your job is to get back.
55:28
SPEAKER_01: And that's why at Federal Injury Centers, one of our primary responsibilities and our focus is get your claim approved and get you better as soon as possible so you can go back.
55:37
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
55:38
SPEAKER_01: We don't want you to lose your job.
55:39
SPEAKER_03: Amy J, you can have the insurance taking out of OWCP payment, just paperwork to fill out.
55:46
SPEAKER_03: Ask your claims examiner.
55:48
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just communicate with the claim examiner with HR, just make sure everybody's on the same page.
55:53
SPEAKER_01: There's no excuse for later on going, I didn't know.
55:56
SPEAKER_01: Just go talk to somebody.
55:58
SPEAKER_03: Robert Chapman.
56:00
SPEAKER_03: Hello, my first time listener.
56:03
SPEAKER_03: All right, Robert.
56:04
SPEAKER_01: Welcome.
56:05
SPEAKER_01: Glad you're here.
56:05
SPEAKER_03: I have been on OWCP by I have oh, I have been approved by OWCP for my injury, which happened in December 2024.
56:14
SPEAKER_03: I have been seeing my orthopedic and he wants me to have surgery.
56:18
SPEAKER_03: I have since been approved for FDR in June 2026.
56:23
SPEAKER_03: I have not notified my claims examiner.
56:26
SPEAKER_03: Do I let the CE I'm no longer working?
56:30
SPEAKER_03: Let the CE know that he's no longer working.
56:32
SPEAKER_03: I have no clue who my CE is.
56:34
SPEAKER_03: If I have surgery, does OWCP still pay me?
56:38
SPEAKER_03: Correct.
56:39
SPEAKER_01: These are great questions.
56:41
SPEAKER_01: First of all, when you're out of work, the doctor has to fill out a CA 17 that gets sent to the claims examiner.
56:47
SPEAKER_01: So they are aware that you're out of work.
56:49
SPEAKER_01: It's okay if you write them a letter and e-comp it and just let them know the situation.
56:53
SPEAKER_01: There's no harm in that.
56:54
SPEAKER_01: But to thoroughly answer your question, the CA 17 goes to the claims examiner.
56:58
SPEAKER_01: So they know what your work status is if they want to look.
57:01
SPEAKER_01: But I have no issue with you communicating with your claims examiner.
57:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:04
SPEAKER_01: You're going to have surgery.
57:06
SPEAKER_01: Of course, that's a medical decision.
57:07
SPEAKER_01: After surgery, lots of times you got to be out of work.
57:10
SPEAKER_01: So your doctor is going to have to do a new CA 17 after surgery and write a disability narrative explaining medically why you have to be out of work.
57:20
SPEAKER_01: Then you start filling out your CA 7s, claim for compensation, and you'll be paid like that.
57:25
SPEAKER_01: Because the other thing that's really cool in OWCP is something like a surgery has to be pre-authorized.
57:31
SPEAKER_01: So the claims examiner actually has to approve it in advance.
57:35
SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, they won't even cover the surgery.
57:37
SPEAKER_01: So they know about the surgery too.
57:39
SPEAKER_01: They say yes to it, the doctor does it, the doctor writes a disability narrative explaining why you're out of work, along with a CA 17 that takes you off of work, and then you're golden.
57:49
unknown: Yeah.
57:49
SPEAKER_01: I know I talk fast.
57:51
SPEAKER_01: So if you have to just like rewind and listen to it again, rewind and listen to it again, I understand.
57:55
SPEAKER_01: Some people tell me to slow down.
57:56
SPEAKER_01: It's just I get revved up.
57:59
SPEAKER_03: Before we end, I wanted to say this.
58:02
SPEAKER_03: I heard today that there is a guy coming on our chats.
58:07
SPEAKER_03: Obviously, I know who the guy is, and taking you guys from our chats over to his page.
58:13
SPEAKER_03: That page is not our page.
58:15
SPEAKER_03: That person does not work for any of our doctors or this company.
58:20
SPEAKER_03: He does not.
58:21
SPEAKER_03: So thank you for sending me what you showed me today.
58:25
SPEAKER_03: I cleared it up.
58:25
SPEAKER_03: No, that person doesn't work for us.
58:27
SPEAKER_03: Never will.
58:29
SPEAKER_01: Never will.
58:29
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
58:30
SPEAKER_03: So I can I can't go through everybody that follows.
58:34
SPEAKER_03: A lot of you, when I go to your pages and I see new followers, I'll go check.
58:38
SPEAKER_03: Do you have any friends?
58:39
SPEAKER_03: If you don't, I'm blocking it because I know who's out there watching.
58:42
SPEAKER_03: Frankly, I don't care, but don't try to steal our family here.
58:46
SPEAKER_03: So I wanted to put that out there.
58:48
SPEAKER_01: Nobody can steal you.
58:49
SPEAKER_01: We just give you away.
58:50
SPEAKER_01: And I'm not ready to give you away yet.
58:52
SPEAKER_01: So you're mine.
58:53
SPEAKER_03: Carly said it's the ADHD Chris.
58:55
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is.
58:56
SPEAKER_01: It happens sometimes, Carly.
58:57
SPEAKER_03: Kevin says they, the post office says there is no going back.
59:02
SPEAKER_03: They gave disability retirement counseling saying we are being separated.
59:06
SPEAKER_03: Doctors still have me off, about to have another surgery, don't know what to do.
59:10
SPEAKER_03: Medically can't work at this point.
59:13
SPEAKER_03: I want to, but not able.
59:15
SPEAKER_03: What do we do?
59:17
SPEAKER_01: We're getting dangerously close to my answer being a medical decision.
59:21
SPEAKER_01: I gotta be careful with that because I'm not a doctor.
59:23
SPEAKER_01: But procedurally, I can tell you that you need your union to fight for you.
59:29
SPEAKER_01: You need the doctor to do everything in his or her power to get you back to work full duty.
59:35
SPEAKER_01: If you're not able to get back to work full duty, you have options.
59:38
SPEAKER_01: They're not great, but federal disability is an option.
59:41
SPEAKER_01: If you go on Office of Personal Management, OPM, federal disability, and I'm not saying you are or need to or should, I don't know.
59:50
SPEAKER_01: You will get 60% of your income the first year and 40% every year thereafter.
59:55
SPEAKER_01: But they also allow you to get another job outside of the federal government and get paid up to 80%.
1:00:01
SPEAKER_01: Meaning by year two, you technically could get 120% of your income doing something else.
1:00:07
SPEAKER_01: That's the problem.
1:00:08
SPEAKER_01: This is why I don't like it.
1:00:09
SPEAKER_01: I don't want anybody to have to go on disability, but it is an option.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying this is the option you should take.
1:00:15
SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
1:00:16
SPEAKER_01: But this is a deal for your doctor and your union, and I would get a nurse case manager on the case.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_01: In this one, I would definitely request one and have them get together and help you out because I don't want you to be an eye on an island by yourself.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_01: Your doctor, your union, and request a nurse case manager to get on your case.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_03: Maria, I went on to medical disability, made more than working, no gas to put on and on.
1:00:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so that's what I'm saying.
1:00:46
SPEAKER_01: You can make more if you have a non-federal job making up to 80% along with the disability payments you're getting.
1:00:54
SPEAKER_01: You have to get rechecked every year, but that's a small price to pay.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_01: But I just wish you didn't have to be on it.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_03: Penny is replying to Robert.
1:01:03
SPEAKER_03: I just got approved for FDR in May.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_03: You should get interim payments from OPM until they finalize you.
1:01:10
SPEAKER_01: The FDR is federal disability retirement.
1:01:12
SPEAKER_03: You will no longer get paid from OWCP, but they will cover your medical if your doctors turn in medical reports and narrative.
1:01:19
SPEAKER_03: Congrats and good luck.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they'll always pay your medical as long as your claim's approved.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_01: You're gonna have lifetime medical benefits for anything related to the work entry.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_03: All right, guys, we're down.
1:01:30
SPEAKER_03: We're down and out.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_01: Somebody asked a schedule award question earlier, and I recall.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna see if I we didn't ask it, so I'm gonna see if I can remember it.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_01: It was something like can I be out on can I be on limited duty and get schedule award at the same time?
1:01:44
SPEAKER_01: The answer is no.
1:01:45
SPEAKER_01: You cannot receive pay from OWCP in any way and a schedule award at the same time.
1:01:51
SPEAKER_01: But the good news is you can just postpone the schedule award.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_01: I'll get paid later because they won't let you take both at the same time.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_01: They'll call it a double payment.
1:01:59
SPEAKER_01: So you got to be careful with double payments.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:02:01
SPEAKER_01: I got it.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_01: That was the question.
1:02:03
SPEAKER_03: What all right?
1:02:04
SPEAKER_03: Let's see what we got here.
1:02:05
SPEAKER_01: I didn't want you to think I forgot you.
1:02:06
SPEAKER_01: I saw it and I didn't forget to uh to answer it.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_03: Becky Bridges, my claim is 11 years old, degenerate changes, spondelozing isn't it sponding is occurring.
1:02:18
SPEAKER_03: My orthopedic retired in 2022.
1:02:20
SPEAKER_03: CE sent me to a second opinion, says no causal relationship to my accepted conditions.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_03: I need an orthopedic that knows OWCP and that will write causal statement.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_03: I had no luck finding an ortho.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_03: Do you have any recommendations in the four-hour drive radius of Richmond, Virginia?
1:02:38
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let me answer this question, please.
1:02:41
SPEAKER_01: You don't have to go to an ortho.
1:02:43
SPEAKER_01: You have to go to a doctor who understands this system.
1:02:46
SPEAKER_01: I am not telling you where to go.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_01: Go to any doctor you want to go to.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_01: Go to doctors that I've never heard of.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_01: Go to doctors that compete with me.
1:02:52
SPEAKER_01: I don't care where you go.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_01: But check FederalindjuryCenters.com, Google doctors, do whatever you can to find somebody in your area that understands how to do what you need.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_01: Second opinions are just a part of OWCP life.
1:03:07
SPEAKER_01: It's just how it goes.
1:03:08
SPEAKER_01: And it's not surprising to me at all that they gave you an adverse result.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_01: That's not shocking in any way.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_01: That's kind of the norm.
1:03:16
SPEAKER_01: And what you need is a doctor who can write a better report than they did, who can refute everything that they said.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_01: So go to Google, Google OWCP injury doctor in your area, use your city and state.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_01: You can go to federal injurycenters.com and check the locations tab, or you could send smoke signals and hopefully somebody will see it and know what they're saying and come talk to you.
1:03:38
SPEAKER_03: John, are the unions still around?
1:03:41
SPEAKER_03: In my area, my employer has told us there is no union and there's no one to assist us, regardless of your injury or work issue.
1:03:48
SPEAKER_01: Okay, if you have a problem with bad words, plug your ears.
1:03:52
SPEAKER_03: Have you tried contacting?
1:03:54
SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
1:03:55
SPEAKER_03: But have you tried contacting like your NBA, your district rep, or go to national, contact national and see what they could do for you because that sounds a little weird.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, your unions are still there.
1:04:06
SPEAKER_01: They're not shut out, they're able to do their job.
1:04:08
SPEAKER_01: Your supervisors are either dumb or they're plain dumb.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_03: Victor says one more thing, and he always does.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_03: Always fight for your rights and never give up.
1:04:18
SPEAKER_01: Never give up.
1:04:19
SPEAKER_01: Ever.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_03: And Victor says to John, which union do you belong to?
1:04:23
SPEAKER_03: He'll Victor will find the answer for you.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_01: I mean that.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_01: What Victor said, never give up.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_01: No kidding.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_01: Just think of my friend that had an 11-year journey to get where he was going.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_01: His strength was resiliency.
1:04:35
SPEAKER_01: He never gave up.
1:04:36
SPEAKER_01: He just kept fighting.
1:04:37
SPEAKER_01: Like every day he woke up and said, What's next?
1:04:39
SPEAKER_01: Let's go.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_01: So just don't give up.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_03: Christopher said, on periodic rolls for my back surgery, got scheduled award for hearing loss with no change in rolls payment.
1:04:50
SPEAKER_01: That's interesting to me.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_01: Hearing loss and back, that sounds like you have two different claims, and that is okay.
1:04:56
SPEAKER_01: You can get paid scheduled award for one claim and OWC payments for a second claim.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_01: That's fine.
1:05:01
SPEAKER_01: You just can't get double pay on a single claim.
1:05:04
SPEAKER_03: Maria said, I'm a I'm retired in AFGE.
1:05:07
SPEAKER_03: We are alive.
1:05:08
SPEAKER_03: Yes.
1:05:09
SPEAKER_01: AFGE is alive and kicking, believe me.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_01: They're fighting strong.
1:05:15
SPEAKER_03: Amber, I just got accepted last Friday.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_01: How do how do I go about being on periodic roles instead of daily?
1:05:24
SPEAKER_01: She's gonna just choke to death just for a minute.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_01: I'll just read the question.
1:05:28
SPEAKER_01: I just got accepted last Friday.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_01: How do I go about being on periodic roles instead of daily?
1:05:32
SPEAKER_01: I don't understand how long I'm off for now.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_01: It's just totally disabled for now on a CA20 and doing PT, but I still don't understand how long I'm off or how long the CA20 is good for.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_01: Okay, the CA20 is good until somebody requests another one or until your doctor wants to do another one.
1:05:50
SPEAKER_01: It's a medical form.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_01: So don't worry about that.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_01: You're off as long as the doctor says you're off using the CA 17.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_01: So don't worry about that.
1:05:58
SPEAKER_01: When that runs out, you got to Go see your doctor again and make sure your CA 17 stays updated.
1:06:04
SPEAKER_01: When will you be on the rolls?
1:06:06
SPEAKER_01: That's a claim examiner decision.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_01: And I don't think there's any rules I've ever seen for time frames.
1:06:12
SPEAKER_01: So in the meantime, keep filling out your CA 7s, keep attaching the documentation until you get notified that you no longer have to do it because they're just going to pay you.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:06:20
SPEAKER_03: What does my hat say?
1:06:22
SPEAKER_03: My hat says, I'm sorry about my husband right there.
1:06:26
SPEAKER_03: I wear funny shirts to embarrass him when we're in the airport.
1:06:29
SPEAKER_03: And I'm never embarrassed.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_03: People laugh.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_03: I'm used to this.
1:06:31
SPEAKER_03: People take pictures, but yeah, he's not embarrassed.
1:06:34
SPEAKER_03: You should see some of the hats I have.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_03: I'd be too embarrassed to wear them on here.
1:06:38
SPEAKER_01: You never got a CA 17, go to the doctor and get one.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
1:06:42
SPEAKER_01: Supervisor.
1:06:43
SPEAKER_01: Go to the doctor and have it filled out.
1:06:45
SPEAKER_03: Did she stump the chump?
1:06:46
SPEAKER_01: No, I just was going too fast.
1:06:48
SPEAKER_03: All right, guys.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_03: If there's not any more questions.
1:06:52
SPEAKER_01: And this was fun.
1:06:53
SPEAKER_01: You guys were so interactive tonight.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_01: I love when I get that kind of interaction, those kinds of questions.
1:06:59
SPEAKER_01: And especially being off so many weeks.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_01: I have been needing this.
1:07:02
SPEAKER_01: I just pace around the house sometimes.
1:07:04
SPEAKER_01: Oh, I gotta do something.
1:07:07
SPEAKER_01: Somebody out there surely got help.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:07:09
SPEAKER_01: That they need.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_03: Those of you that were not on, this is our camera that broke.
1:07:13
SPEAKER_03: We said it doesn't look broken at all.
1:07:15
SPEAKER_03: It doesn't look broken, but what it really is.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_03: It's the plug where you charge it, the little holy thing.
1:07:22
SPEAKER_03: Actually, you know what?
1:07:23
SPEAKER_01: I said that it's actually the plug that the HDMI plugs into.
1:07:26
SPEAKER_01: It won't communicate with the laptop.
1:07:28
SPEAKER_01: It's not useful anymore.
1:07:29
SPEAKER_01: I can still record on it.
1:07:30
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but we got you guys now.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_01: When I go and make my first uh my first movie, I can use that, but I can't use it for live streaming.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_03: All right, everybody.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_03: Thank you guys so much for still supporting us for being patient with our camera debacle.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like two months.
1:07:48
SPEAKER_03: It was annoying.
1:07:49
SPEAKER_03: We were so annoyed.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_03: And then I didn't, again, if you didn't come hop on the very beginning, I have this DJI pocket camera and just realized this weekend when we went for business.
1:08:01
SPEAKER_03: She could take it out of her pocket and use it.
1:08:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:08:03
SPEAKER_03: And that it would live stream on here, and the quality is so much better, even compared to this.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_03: And this was a lot of money.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's good.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_01: I hope you guys liked it.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_01: And we still got the mics and everything, so everything else is still good.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_01: Hope you like our new backdrop.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_01: Yes, it says America's OWCP couple.
1:08:19
SPEAKER_01: If anybody else says they're us, they better look like us.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's true.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you, they don't.
1:08:25
SPEAKER_01: They better have a funny hat on.
1:08:26
SPEAKER_01: Otherwise, it's probably not us.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_03: Jack says, Can you embarrass him at this point?
1:08:31
SPEAKER_03: Jack, I'll send you a picture.
1:08:33
SPEAKER_03: I can't put that out on in public.
1:08:35
SPEAKER_03: I may one day.
1:08:36
SPEAKER_03: Here, let me tell you.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_01: No, Victor's got incriminating evidence.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_03: Here's one of the hats I have, and I know you're gonna die.
1:08:43
SPEAKER_03: Fourth of July weekend.
1:08:45
SPEAKER_03: Me and my sister were rotating Fourth of July outfits.
1:08:48
SPEAKER_03: My sister loves Fourth of July, and I was rotating hats.
1:08:51
SPEAKER_03: And my hat said, Ask me about my butt rash.
1:08:56
SPEAKER_03: So those are the type of hats that I wear to embarrass him.
1:08:59
SPEAKER_03: So there you go, Jack.
1:09:04
SPEAKER_03: So yes.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_01: This is the price you pay.
1:09:06
SPEAKER_03: This is the price he has to pay.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_01: We're tell Kevin how to find the Wednesday Night Chat's messenger.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_03: Okay.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_03: What you need to do, Kevin, when we finish the live stream.
1:09:15
SPEAKER_03: Okay, this is what happens to a lot of you.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_03: You have to go follow, and then I guess the messenger tab will pop up, and from there you just click message, and it'll you can go in there and make your message.
1:09:27
SPEAKER_03: Another thing, too, a lot of you have been messaging, and then you're responding that I'm not messaging you and that it's been a week.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_03: And I posted this last week.
1:09:37
SPEAKER_03: You have to change your settings from your Facebook where you can actually get a response back from when you message somebody.
1:09:47
SPEAKER_03: So I'm reading your comments and I cannot respond to you.
1:09:51
SPEAKER_03: So please check your setting.
1:09:52
SPEAKER_03: A lot of you that it says you're not responding.
1:09:55
SPEAKER_03: That's why I'm not responding, because I always do.
1:09:57
SPEAKER_03: So you've got to change your settings where you can receive messages.
1:10:01
SPEAKER_01: Real quick, Jenny said, How long do I have to accept a scheduled award?
1:10:04
SPEAKER_01: Till the end of your life.
1:10:05
SPEAKER_01: Just stay alive.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_01: Stay alive.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_01: Like last of the Mohegans.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_01: Just stay alive.
1:10:09
SPEAKER_01: That's all you have to do.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_01: And it says, if I'm on the rolls, can I just file for it and accept it at a later time?
1:10:15
SPEAKER_01: Just file for it later.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_01: That's like whatever.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_01: But you can file for it anytime, but you can't get paid two different payment methods on the same plane at the same time.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_03: Victor says, You have to go to Jeannie's social media to see her crazy shirts and hats she wears.
1:10:28
SPEAKER_01: Fact.
1:10:29
SPEAKER_01: Facts.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_01: As Ian would say, facts.
1:10:31
SPEAKER_03: All right, guys.
1:10:32
SPEAKER_03: Thank you guys so much for being on tonight.
1:10:34
SPEAKER_03: We are going to continue again now that we have a camera in place.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, we'll be on for several weeks in a row.
1:10:39
SPEAKER_03: And guess what?
1:10:40
SPEAKER_03: This camera can actually travel with us in the back of my pocket if I wanted to.
1:10:45
SPEAKER_01: So we are not, even if we're traveling.
1:10:47
SPEAKER_01: We have our own Wi-Fi we travel with.
1:10:49
SPEAKER_01: We got a camera to go with.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_01: We don't have any more excuses to not see you guys when we need to be on.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so what even when we travel out of town, we're gonna let you know we are still gonna do chats as long as we don't have an evening meeting and time zone issues.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
1:11:04
SPEAKER_03: It was really sweet of Tanisha.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_03: She said, tap the hearts because we love them.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_03: Oh, and then my phone is just blowing up with thank you.
1:11:13
SPEAKER_01: We really appreciate that.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_01: Look, we love what we do, we love you.
1:11:16
SPEAKER_01: This is something she keeps talking about the competition.
1:11:18
SPEAKER_01: I couldn't care less about them.
1:11:20
SPEAKER_01: And it's because of this.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_01: You can copy me, but you can't be me.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_01: And nobody's ever gonna have a heart for you like I do.
1:11:27
SPEAKER_01: I passionately love what I do here.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_01: Yep.
1:11:29
SPEAKER_01: Passionately love it.
1:11:30
SPEAKER_01: My eyes are actually watering up a little bit because I can't hide my sincerity.
1:11:34
SPEAKER_01: I really love it.
1:11:36
SPEAKER_01: So just keep coming back.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_01: Tell your friends you are in the right place if you're at Wednesday night OWCP chats.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_03: Let me get this question real quick before we say goodbye.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_03: Amber, my caseworker said something about a CA uh C5.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_03: I didn't understand that.
1:11:51
SPEAKER_01: A C5 is like a case closure code.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_01: What I would do is just go to Google and say OWCP C5 code.
1:12:00
SPEAKER_01: What is it?
1:12:01
SPEAKER_01: And it'll tell you.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_03: When you're tagging your friends when you guys are when we are on live, you have to at the at sign and then put the friend that you're trying to tell them to follow us, Nancy.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_03: So you would have to at Jenny so she can see you.
1:12:15
SPEAKER_03: And the only way to see if we're going live and see all of our posts is you have to follow.
1:12:20
SPEAKER_03: All right, guys.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_01: And we want you to follow, and I think it is beneficial.
1:12:23
SPEAKER_01: So please do.
1:12:24
SPEAKER_03: So we're gonna think of some great topics for next week.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_03: If you guys have any topics that you want us to discuss, go ahead and put them in the chat after we end this live.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_03: And guess what?
1:12:34
SPEAKER_03: We will see you guys back next week.
1:12:36
SPEAKER_01: Can't hardly wait.