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#235 - For Azeroth!: "The Ides of November" · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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Victory for the Forsaken for Lord, are on for the Kirin Tor
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and REO for calendar organ. Alias our cars.
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Not die for the sin Dora for the alliance for answer off.
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Hi, welcome back to another episode of for Azeroth.
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I am one of your hosts Olivia and with me this week, there is
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no Manny, there's no, there's no villain.
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There's no villain. Asara looming over the entire
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show this week. Instead, I have two of my, two
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of my closest friends first from the show live, LaFleur we have
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Ali-A Dress Ellie, how are you doing?
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My name is so fancy. We you say against fancy now?
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Hi. Hi.
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I love it. But Ali's not the only person
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joining me. We also have from going are L,
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which is a show that my normal co-host Manny is also on.
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We have Lex Lex. Hi.
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Hello. I've been on the show before I
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haven't eaten. We had a wonderful time and I'm
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I'm so excited to be back with 22 delightful friends yay yeah,
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yeah, hello. Hi.
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Hey, hi. Hey yo, this week was a doozy
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for World of Warcraft because we kind of had something big
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happen. I don't know, I don't know
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exactly what happened but it was maybe like a pre patch happened.
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Like, did like there was a really long maintenance
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yesterday, like, abnormally long maintenance, you Today.
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I wonder what that was about. Oh, this is great turning to the
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Good Ol days. Alright, everything today,
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they're really channeling. The the Wrath of the Lich King
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era. Like, everything is just down
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for like half a week, kind of vibe.
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Okay, okay. Yeah, I can, I can dig that I've
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been really into into, wow, classic recently, and no, not,
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you not me even a little bit, but We do have prefetch, we have
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it. It's here we have ten point over
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here, we've arrived. So, how how, how is the World of
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Warcraft been treating? Y'all had glue.
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Have you been like doing a whole bunch of playing the game in the
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lead-up to the pre patch? Have you gotten into the pre
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patch? Like what's going on?
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Like so I probably should have warned you guys if this, before
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I started the this episode, but I don't think I've played World
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of Warcraft in a month. Perfectly valid.
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I'm so excited about pre patch and then I saw what was
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happening with Pea Patch. And I saw that for the first,
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like, two three weeks. It's just, we get the new UI and
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the new talents and then we are getting actual content.
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Starting on, November, 15th, which is interesting, because
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the two things that I'm least interested in, for dragonflight
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is the new UI and the new talents.
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And so, I was like, all right, we're waiting until November
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15th and here we are. And here we are.
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So Ali. How is the World of Warcraft?
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Been treating you pretty good. I actually was pretty busy this
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whole time doing season for Stuff of my guild.
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We know got slime kitties and then we were done with that.
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We like well what do but what do we do now?
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So we start doing achievements. Hmm which is pretty fun if
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something different to do and I kind of started looking at
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things. I wanted to get done before
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dragonflight dropped And number one on my list, was cleaning up
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my bags and my bank, but I haven't done that yet.
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You had said you had a good time.
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I'm not worried about. No worry about.
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I did two things. Oh, you have nothing my bags.
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Dear. Oh, honey.
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You ever see my. I'm so sorry I interrupted.
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This is your mom home. I finally, after all this time,
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finished twisting corridors and got that mount.
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Yeah. And is expensive.
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Finally because I just never took time.
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It's like, I'll get him out. It's cool.
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It's fine. I think I started that and then
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just like, saw what actually had to be done for it was just like,
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nope. That's kind of what we did for a
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while because I like, I'm, I liked her, guess it's fun.
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But as far as take, the, it just takes forever count.
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It was forever. Yeah.
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Finish it. It takes forever and it's, it's
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a lot of gray. Yeah.
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A lot of gray, which is like / for the course for shadowlands
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as a whole, but since Shadow Lance is officially over, we are
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no longer in sham, like technically, technically, we're
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still in the shadow lands and that's the That's all thing.
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But like Shadow lines as an expansion, is coming to a close.
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We're staying exactly where in the shadowlands.
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Yes. Mentally mentally.
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Retarded. Check out since like February.
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Come on. Oh gosh.
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Yeah, even with prepackaged dropping.
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I mean, I was excited for it but then bound that was fighting me
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with to download the stupid patch for some reason, got done
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fighting it and I was like, okay, finally got on.
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At that point, I was too tired. So I did some my points while I
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was dozing off and decided to do this.
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One thing and go to sleep, instead, and here we are
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tonight. Hello.
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Hi, that's what my pre patch so far.
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Well, I have been, I finished leveling my Mage, like, since
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since yesterday, like the, the server's went live yesterday and
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I was just like, yeah, I've done all my, all my chores that I
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need to do in Wrath classic. I I can jump over and do a few
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Dungeons and then next thing I knew I was level 60 already and
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it was like oh yes, that's where the night went.
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Okay cool. But yeah, I I have now.
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I think I counted I have five classes at 60 beautiful of The
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Twelve parentheses 13 because we're getting a new one.
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We're getting a 13th into we less than two weeks now.
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But five of the, the 12 non-direct, fear classes are at
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that level cap. Finally, and three more are like
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love. 55 57 somewhere around there.
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So I've got I've got like potential like by the end of
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this week even to have eight level 60 classes going into the
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pre patch, which means they would only before that I'm
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missing, which is a huge thing for me because like, one of my
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main goals of World of Warcraft has been to have like to end and
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expansion with one of each class at level cap.
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And I'm so Close. I'm so close this time around
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but no, I have three level 60 were mics and to level, 60 demon
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Hunters but could have been could have been those other
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classes that I'm missing. But here we are, here we are.
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And now you have all these options for what your new mate
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is going to be. I know, I'm gonna give Maniac
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ordinary. Yes, with my with my main
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indecision, Oh gosh. But yeah, my pre patch
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experience has been mostly just like setting up MIUI copying my
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UI. on my 5 level 60 characters and just kind of just kind of
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like Not really getting into anything because I know I know
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that like as soon as soon as the pre patch up in happens on the
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15th and we get the drive-through of like I'm going
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to be, I'm going to be busy doing all that stuff.
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I'm going to be doing the the event and getting the gear from
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that and, you know, having a wonderful time there.
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So I'm just like, in kind of like a okay, what, what easy
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levels can I get on the few characters that I want to
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finish, leveling to 60 and Kind of like taking a rest with the
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rest of it, with the little bit of retail.
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Wow, down time that I have. So with that, let's talk, let's
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talk about what's, what's actually happening in in the
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World of Warcraft this week because we did get, we did get
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the pre patch, we got the talent system, we got the UI overhaul,
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Lex we know That these things. Do not interest you one way or
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the other. So I am like as as someone that
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I know raids as someone that is. Active, maybe not active in
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World of Warcraft at the moment. But like actively actively, like
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Julie action. Yeah, usually very active in the
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game. Like, I'm interested to see like
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why the talent system overhaul isn't particularly interesting
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to you. And why do you I specifically
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whether UI overhaul isn't particularly interesting, so I
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can't do that very easily. It's because I'm absurdly lazy.
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And what? It's an awesome system.
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Is you just you go on? I see, veins you, go on,
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Wowhead, you go wherever and you type in holy priest Helens, and
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it tells you exactly what to get.
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And now I have to think Liv, I have to consider things after no
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options and know what's going to be best in what different
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situation. How do I like to play?
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I don't know. I do.
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Holy priests type, the holy priest thing and then it works,
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and I should say, I'm not wholly uninterested.
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I think that this is the type of thing that I will get.
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Excited about especially when I actually get in and start
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playing with my UI and kind of get over that, you know, oh man,
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I have to go in and figure out how things are and like, what's
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actually we've asked for playstyle, like when I actually
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get into it, I'm going to have a good time with it.
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I think a lot of it. A lot of also why I'm being a
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little bit cranky and grumpy is because when I heard free patch
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was coming, I got so excited about Laura because that's
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always kind of been my thing, right?
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Is I raid and I play for lore and When I learned that lure
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wasn't coming for a while, it just kind of like, put me in a
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little, a little cranky spot which is I understand, you know,
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I fully get I developers are so busy and there's so many things
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and they push this timeline so quickly.
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So this is not grumpy at anyone. In particular simply mad at the
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situation, but no II think that I will have fun with it.
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And I think that this will help me be a better writer, because
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it'll help me. Actually, you know, have to
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learn things and not just type into icy vein.
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How do you do this? Um, but I think I have I'm not
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quite gotten into the the energy yet.
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Yeah, the typin typing, I see veins.
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How do talent and then just Spam powered mendick.
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Yeah, they give me your. Do you follow the list you have
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in this universe? That's really pretty.
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I will say. I mean, if you really want
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websites, not only are already getting those together for you,
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but I know at least one Wowhead, you can actually just copy
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because they have the whole new like copying and sharing layouts
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for talents. You can just you can do that
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telling you they made it easier. Okay?
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Nevermind, I love this expansion.
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This is so great. I'm so excited.
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Yeah, you pretty much you can. You can Import and Export both.
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Yeah, your UI and and your talent and welds.
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And you can have as many different Talent builds as you
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want, and you can change them whenever as long as you're not
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in combat, so, man. Okay, nevermind, I'm excited.
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Yeah, I don't know. To click anymore.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And as a fellow, holy priest, I could tell you as of now, it's
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looking pretty decent about it. Yeah, I was reading about it and
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it seems like right now. It's really heavily
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single-target healing, but it's going to eventually open up into
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more AOE, which is exciting. And I do think, as much as I
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grew up in one, complain about being lazy.
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I do think that having that customization is going to be
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exciting, right? It's going to mean that we can
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really, you know, I I Mythic plus a little but by and large,
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I am a writer and so I will be able to make a build that is
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heavily heavily focused on making me the best possible rate
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healer. And that's that's going to be
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fun and that's really exciting. And it's me fun to not have a
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whole slew of talents and abilities and things.
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I'm like, I didn't want this but I know it's mostly for something
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that I don't do but best of the best, right?
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Yeah, this I feel like the strength of this system because
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it's very clear which talents give you new abilities like when
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you're going through the tree like if it if it is a talent
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that gives you a new ability, it has a square.
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And if it's a talent that alters an existing ability that you
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have, it's a circle. So you can you can literally go.
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Well not literally, it is quite impossible to go through and in
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tie-in entire talent tree without Thing any abilities in
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the in the specialization trees but you can get through avoiding
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most of them and just get like all the passives and play that
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way and it's totally viable. Totally viable, not optimal, not
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optimally enemies. Since the word, is it optimal to
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do that? But you can do it and get away
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with it. I feel like for the most part,
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but yeah, it's It's a, it's a, I have to be real here with the
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both of you. This is, this is the type of
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talent overhaul that I have been begging for since the end of
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Mists of Pandaria. Absolutely.
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I have been, I have been begging for this for so long, not not
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that. There's anything wrong with the
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mop style Talent system, it has served us.
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Well, it is served its purpose, but I like, I like the
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granularity of it, and I think that they're, they're like
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splitting of it between class and, and specialization, and
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having two separate trees for both in your filling out points
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equally in both, I think that that is Chef's Kitchen.
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It does a lot to bring things back to the class fantasy, as
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opposed to the specialization fantasy while keeping
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specialization very unique. And it's just like, I'm, that's
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the most exciting thing for me out of everything, coming and
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pre patches is the talents. But I don't want to talk about
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just that because I get I get so much time so much time to talk
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about that with the show. So I'm going to turn I'm going
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to turn this over. Were to Ali.
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What what are your what are your thoughts on the whole change
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that has been made to to wow with with everything?
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Like are you looking at the the and because realistically the
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only two like major things that have changed the talents and the
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UI? So is there, is there something
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there that your Excited about or are you, like, Lex?
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Looking forward to the 15th more than what we have currently?
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Well, admittedly, I'm looking forward to the 15th more, okay?
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Having said that, I am really happy with the talent trees.
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I'm happy with the ability to customize it, to how I want to
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play, and to be able to have a different set for Mythic Plus
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And for rating while I don't do Mythic plus a whole lot, would
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could probably stand to do more for the sake of Gary whatnot.
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And with the way they're doing it, I can cut it out.
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Just enough to actually do a little DPS as a, holy priest,
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and Mythic plus. And feel like I'm not a waste of
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space. Actually do a decent job as only
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priests in Mythic plus. So I'm happy about that and I'm
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happy to be able to just Switch back and forth.
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I know that there's going to be the optimal Talent paths.
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That's okay. But I'm also really happy to
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have my light while back. And I don't know how I feel
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about that because they paired it up with the optimal path.
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Like the very end, you have a choice between like these two
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different things. Mmm, I want, I want my light
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will want to keep it and I'll get call it mine, but the other
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one choice is the optimal. So we'll see what I do with
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that. But overall, I'm happy with
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talents and as someone who has only ever used the base you, I
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never use an add-on add-on for my you I ever.
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I'm so happy Be so, so happy with the UI changes and be able
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to do so many new things with it and make it mine.
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And I, I'm thrilled. I'm so happy that it's easier to
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keep on to. Now like I'm just really,
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really, really happy with the UI changes because you don't have
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to the whole new world and you don't have to think you don't
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have to have an add-on to do a mouse-over keybinding anymore,
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which is like my biggest gripe of like you're telling me I have
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to go into the menu to tell which key, Key goes on which and
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like, look at the bar and make sure that it's assigning the
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right key by right. Know how much easier now.
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I'm so happy. I'm, I'm kind of cuz like I
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don't have a fancy 12 months, 12 button Mouse.
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Mean I'm few buttons on here, I could use more.
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But I from a very long time ago, I have a lot of my spells bound
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to different Keys, like C, and D, and S and, and to be able to
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set that now, Lovely. Because I want to change it
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because it all my muscle memory is so built-in that my hand.
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So strong is so strong. My brains are just so strong.
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So now I could easily fix that and it's great.
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And I'm so happy and the UI I'm just and I know like they'll
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keep adding things to it over time.
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I think kind of get that Vibe so I'm just I'm really happy about
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UI stuff. I'm so happy me too.
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Oh new world of the fact. Oh gosh, I think I think like
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the very first thing that I did like didn't look at talents and
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like anything. I was just like, okay, I'm just
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gonna sort MIUI out and I did that on one character and I was
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like, I wonder because I knew that you could you could like
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export and import you eyes, but you can literally just select
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the UI on all of your other characters because it was an
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open web and you just like select it on every other
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character and you can have multiple different layouts It's
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for like, multiple different situations and like, so, there's
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so many nice things. So many nice things.
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My my add-on list went down from like 20 add-ons to like five.
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Beautiful. Well, five.
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Now we have to know. Oh gosh.
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Oh gosh. You're gonna make me do this?
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Uh-huh. Oh gosh, it's a good thing.
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It's a good thing that I could open up curse words so quickly.
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Okay, so I have I have seven live and lied.
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I lied and lied to. So I have I have details.
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I have pain because it just makes makes optimization easier.
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I have rated R. Mythic plus, but the blood
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installed I have week or as dbm, Mythic dungeon tools, Even
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though I don't really do Mythic plus, it's nice to have for the
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few times, when ready for it and then I have an add-on called
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narcissus witches. Very good.
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It's so it's so good if you like if you like transmog and taking
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pretty pictures of your characters, it is a fantastic
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add-on to have. But yeah, those are those are my
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add-ons that I have it down to at the only thing that I'm
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probably going to add is something like a like a
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automatic junk seller / repair a tan because that's not
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something. It's still it's it is near.
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At the end of 20 22, and we still don't have that included
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in the base. Game somehow used to am.
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I did I fully in his high? I have heard of is an invented
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memory of like a thing. You could just click and it's
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sold all your Graves and II anyway.
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Okay? Good to know that I'm literally
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insane. Like to be fair.
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It like this is this is the thing that so confusing about it
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to me is that it is been. So widely used across the entire
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playerbase of like thing that people want is just something
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that automatically sells your Gray's that there have been
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multiple add-ons that just include that.
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Like, it's not even something that they advertised as a perk
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of having. It's just That's there in the
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code. Of course, I can't think of any
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off the top of my head. So if you if you know you dear
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listeners, know any add-ons that include this, please, please
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feel free to share with us. What, what does that ons are
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while we're on the subject? But but yeah, I did.
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There's it's something, it's something that's just Been so
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widely used for so long that it's something that most people
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don't even think about. So I'm pretty sure like a lot of
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people going into this patch week of like, oh well these are
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all the add-ons that I don't need anymore, my delete them,
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they've deleted them and then that functionality is also gone
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out the window and everyone is just like, wait, wait, what
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happened? so, November 15th, November
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15th, Is is when the actual like pre patch?
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I feel like is happening because like this is this is like
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systems and then we actually get content on the 15th and that
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content includes but is well no it is limited to these two
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things. It's the the drag theory of
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ochres and they're starting zone experience.
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And we also get a little bit of story, but a little bit of
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story, a little bit of story. Are you can you can continue
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little bit of story with You Primal invasions Prime
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elevations? which, Most people, I would say,
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I would hedge a bet that most people that play World of
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Warcraft or, you know, see prevalent basis, you're going to
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be like, why do I care about this?
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Because, most, most people Planes game have not been
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terminally in the dragonflight beta and have not been, like,
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completely immersed, in, in the dragon Isles and everything is
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going on. So, just ahead.
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Of of all that, I think it would be a good idea to just like kind
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of give a rundown of who the Primal lists are and why we hate
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them and I hate those guys hate him so much.
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We had him so hard but I love you can't, you can Butte my
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attract for this like you don't have to absolutely not.
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No, it's it it adds it adds. But the, the Primal lists there.
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Basically basically like Rogue shamans, not Rogue the class but
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like shamans that have like gone off the deep end that are on
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like Elemental steroids kind of and they're trying to to do bad
25:28
stuff and they are in direct opposition to the dragons.
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So that's that's kind of where where we're at with.
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Our motivation for this. It's very it's one of the one of
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the big selling points about dragonflight is like, we're
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bringing it back to Azeroth and like when I think of like
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old-school, like World of Warcraft stories, it's very much
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just like this vague vague like ideal log has taken up taking up
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this fight that they're, they're going to do.
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They're going to do a thing, and it's also kind of Doomsday.
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Dei a little bit. Maybe let's try the world.
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Could could possibly was around? Never really the planet that we
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inhabit and then we we catch wind of it.
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We're just like, not on my Azeroth and put a stop to it and
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I feel like that's like very much exactly what's happening
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here. Like it's very much like, oh,
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here's this weird. This weird faction that are
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trying to do A bad thing and we got a generally do a good thing
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to counteract it. And that's, that's like our
26:45
entire motivation here and I couldn't be happier about it
26:49
because we get to go back to being kind of low-key like not
26:54
center of attention adventurers. Again, I'm like do something
27:00
normal like my gripe and I've griped this gripe on on quite a
27:05
few podcasts. So forgive me for being
27:06
repetitive is that World of Warcraft has been doing this
27:09
thing for the last few expansions.
27:11
I feel where they keep giving us like this ultimate bad and then
27:17
they realize they have another expansion coming and they're
27:20
like hmm so you you thought that was the God but there's actually
27:23
the God God and you have to kill the God God now and then you The
27:28
God. God they're like but there's
27:29
another expansion coming. So now you know the God, God
27:32
will actually there's the God. God God and I'm really excited.
27:36
We're bringing it back to like normal and like and I will say
27:41
that I have not been in the beta II.
27:43
Don't I love my understandings of kind of like hidden lure
27:47
pretty well in the beta. So it's quite possible that I'm
27:50
going to we're going to go to Dragon Isles and they're going
27:53
to be like you want to know what the Primal is.
27:54
Are there the God, God, God God. But I it seems like this is kind
27:59
of yeah getting back to the like bread and butter of World of
28:04
Warcraft and of a nice fun MMORPG.
28:07
And so I'm so excited to just have an expansion that just
28:11
feels like a fun adventure instead of like Mind-blowing sin
28:19
in the worst way. So I have I have some good news
28:22
for you. The private lists are not
28:24
guidance, so he's to have that girls like oh gosh, it's yeah.
28:35
There's I mean we could we could just we could continue down that
28:41
path of talking about where the story has been.
28:45
But okay so here's the other thing like as someone that as
28:48
previously mentioned has been terminally in the beta for
28:52
months. Now the the things that have
28:57
been hidden from us, haven't necessarily been like lure
29:02
necessarily the main things that have been hidden have been like
29:06
the big Like story moments, which I, I keep like separate in
29:13
my head between like, the lure, the world-building, like the
29:18
like the general stuff that's happening from like, the very
29:23
specific character stories because we have gotten quite a
29:27
few very specific character stories that we're not going to
29:30
get into for the sake of not spoiling anything for anyone
29:34
that wants a fresh experience with this expansion, which I
29:36
don't, I don't blame you. It at all for that.
29:42
But there are there are still like a good mixture of like very
29:47
emotionally driven specific, character stories that are
29:52
happening throughout the expansion at least through like
29:56
this. Beginning, like Gambit of the
29:58
story, not, I'd think very much. Not to the same extent that
30:03
shadowlands. Had that certainly not mostly
30:07
because like We had we had the renowned system and the renowned
30:11
system was like you get three renowned and then you get a
30:13
little bit story and you get three.
30:15
Renown you get a little bit story and those like we had like
30:19
the a whole story spread out over four different Covenants.
30:24
But like everyone was basically doing the same thing.
30:27
Whereas, with this expansion we still have the renowned system,
30:33
but it's replacing the reputation system kind of where
30:39
we're still going to be getting a little chunks of story, but
30:42
it's not going to be like weekly gated.
30:44
We can only get. We can only get so much and we
30:48
can go do. We can go do all of the cover
30:52
napkin. Not that not going to mix those
30:56
things up. We can go.
30:58
Do multiple factions at the same time and get that get story for
31:03
these factions in kind of our own pace and not be locked to
31:11
142 whole pet Cycles. While wanting to see the others
31:17
and not being able to because we'd have to make entirely
31:20
different characters for that and who has that kind of time.
31:24
So very much very, very happy with the way that their aid,
31:29
Doling out the story with this expansion, But more.
31:37
So happy with the fact that they're focusing more on the
31:39
world-building. Like because we're getting
31:42
dragon writing like right out of the gate which we could make a
31:46
whole other episode on just talking about Dragon, right?
31:49
And how fun it is very much. So but what they're doing is
31:57
very much very much just like having these like, much more
32:04
smaller Or stories where we're getting to see it.
32:09
Like the general people of of the place that we're going to
32:14
rather than focusing on like a few characters and how they
32:19
affect everything. It's going on throughout the
32:23
land, but yeah. It is, it is very exciting and
32:29
we're getting the first bit of story with, with dragonflight,
32:34
on November 15th, November 15th, November 15th, November 14th.
32:43
But with that, we're also getting the director of hookers.
32:46
And I have to ask the, the to probably most terminally priest
32:50
players that I know how, how much time are you going to?
32:57
Done a drag through poker. 00:40 rounds.
33:02
I really realized that the visual cue that I put up here
33:07
meaningless given the auditorium.
33:11
It was a beautiful zero everyone.
33:12
I think it's perfect circle. Yeah, I mean okay, like maybe a
33:18
little but I is. Okay, Liv, you're saying that
33:23
you have the goal of having like all of the classes Max, I don't
33:27
have a single character that is even Close to a level 60 other
33:33
than my main. I am I am not an all-girl.
33:36
I-i'm a one track mind you you get on the holy priest and you
33:42
go crazy. So I will likely not be doing
33:46
anything with a Fokker. But I'm so excited for everyone
33:49
who's very, very happy about this new class and you Ali I in
33:57
the beginning will have to bus At my cute little organ, but to
34:03
get ready for raid. Mhm.
34:04
We're jumping right in when it comes out and after I get to a
34:09
good place with that, then I'll, I'll definitely play it.
34:12
I'm I'm I think of a lot of fun. There was a time, I considered
34:16
switching my main Wow. But I'm a completionist and I
34:23
complete things on my priest. I'm a worgen.
34:26
So, just switch to a new tune as my main would probably kill that
34:30
part of me and hurt badly. I can't, I can't, I can't.
34:34
So unless I become incredibly addicted to the evoker.
34:40
I'll probably be a 80/20 split. Once I get my priesthood, good
34:46
point for writing. Okay, okay, after I spend, you
34:50
know, that the hour or two customizing it of course of
34:53
course. Well I mean the good news, the
34:55
good news is that you can you can do that in the pre patch
35:01
which is true. So I do intend to do that a bit
35:04
as well as clean my bags. And right there, we don't clean
35:08
your bags alley. Slide specifically so that we
35:20
can have a crafting bag full did.
35:23
We could just pull put all does help materials into that does
35:27
help. But it doesn't change the fact
35:30
that you like probably have a whole bunch of currencies a
35:33
whole bunch of like like things that you've accrued over the
35:36
years of playing the game. They're just like very
35:38
sentimental things that you're just like I don't want to delete
35:40
it even though it's literally doing nothing other than
35:43
providing sentimental value which is out is incredible guys
35:46
actually like there are there. Some things are pretty
35:49
sentimental value that for various reasons, but there are
35:52
other ends are like, oh, I'll eventually go back to Mecca.
35:55
Gonna finish it because I'm a completionist is what I do.
35:58
So I've got all that crap in my bags and it's the whole new
36:02
thing. They've got going on words like
36:04
combine this time, the other to make a pet, like, I've got two
36:08
of the three or something, like they've gotten so much crap,
36:10
like that over the years, it's just like, and you'd actually
36:13
complete some of that stuff. So it stops taking up three back
36:17
slots. Stupid.
36:20
If I think you can just keep her forever Ali.
36:22
I don't think you have to follow you.
36:24
I think you can just hold it. I think you don't need more than
36:26
three bags slots open at any time.
36:28
It really true. No no you don't you just learn
36:31
to delete things. Really, really easily.
36:34
I'm not at that point in my work Rush career.
36:37
I hate to say you'll get there. I promise.
36:39
What do you what do you mean? You don't?
36:41
You don't just like go until you can't pick up anything anymore
36:45
and then you just like frantically.
36:46
Try to get to a town. You can sell everything in your
36:50
bags. I have a mount for that.
36:52
I'll need to get to a town. That's good.
36:54
Well, I mean, I think that you never have to clean out your
36:57
bags. No, no.
36:58
Ali Ali. Don't let them gasps like you
36:59
and to believe it. I know how many Warcraft and
37:01
work off. Duh merlok.
37:06
Probably walked him out. Is it really is the correct
37:09
amount? It's beautiful.
37:11
It's beautiful. I want to save you 68, maybe a
37:14
cycle that maybe because they're awesome.
37:17
Oh my God. Even more when the anniversary
37:19
event happens again, it's fine. I'm chronically mad that they
37:22
haven't given us playable more life yet and I'm convincing
37:25
happy that everyone tells me. It's never going to happen and I
37:27
just don't believe them. It's coming likes.
37:32
It's got a likes likes gets me. Can't tell you enough.
37:37
How much it's not gonna happen? No, no, either coming.
37:40
It's coming there until the one day.
37:43
Somebody will hear me and they'll listen.
37:45
Listen, listen. Listen, Miss of Pandaria was
37:48
Originally an April Fool's Day joke and then, they were like
37:51
actually Loki, good idea, so it's coming, it's coming.
37:56
We're getting our play, one more locks, it's gonna happen.
37:59
And then this triangle immediately abandoned my main
38:03
and that will be the only thing that I played for the rest of my
38:05
life. Yeah, no, play Wilmer.
38:06
Might be a like priest but I'm totally into it.
38:08
Yeah, no, absolutely, it's gonna be great.
38:11
I won't level because I'll just Flashdance every two minutes.
38:13
What if they just give you a toy that allowed you to transform
38:16
it? No.
38:17
No. They're gonna give me a hug.
38:18
Moorlach. No, they needed it.
38:19
Seemed spells and themed racial things like it's a whole thing.
38:24
I got to get the lure. I got to get the plot lines.
38:26
I gotta get the new main characters.
38:28
Yeah. Okay.
38:29
So follow up, question of that. Would you only play a more,
38:34
like, if they had their own, like, personal like, starting
38:38
zone experience, that would be so much fun.
38:41
It would be amazing. I would play.
38:43
I would play a murloc regardless live because I've wanted this
38:46
for my entire entire Life like, ever since I started playing
38:50
World of Warcraft, I wanted it and then they gave us Allied
38:52
races and I became convinced, it was coming.
38:54
And now, I'm even more convinced, it's coming because
38:56
blizzards doing a lot for like, you know, player at happiness,
38:59
and I am very loud, but yeah, I'll do whatever.
39:03
But yes, no, we deserve we deserve frankly.
39:05
We deserve a murloc expansion. Blizzard has been milking the
39:08
murlocs for so long, it's like they're number one things.
39:11
It's we're locks everywhere. You're not even giving us some
39:14
Marlin Manson disrespectful. Relax, just do Beach and have no
39:22
decency. I don't even know if that's the
39:25
line but there's something like that.
39:27
Like, every time flying over the the broken Shore, going to the
39:34
tower on that little Island right outside of dollars just
39:41
every time just khadgar. Right front and center fell,
39:44
verlox is seared. Into my brain and will never
39:50
leave. Well, maybe I'll leave when you
39:53
become become a film or like maybe it'll exactly it's fine
39:58
brr, like demon Hunters, no doubt like demon.
40:03
Hunters. Before we get before we get the
40:10
What's the the other two Elven raises void Elves and the the
40:17
other words, the the the born? Yeah, those those dudes, the
40:25
guy's thoroughly curled upper lip night elves The conflation
40:31
prize because they gave us four tiles, which were the coolest.
40:34
And then they're like, crap crap.
40:36
We gotta get the horde something.
40:40
I would like to State for the record that I understand that
40:43
every single human who is not me knew it was the opposite.
40:51
I am under no, no false pretenses that anyone else
40:54
thinks that boy down for like the greatest Allied race.
40:57
We're not right? No, not nothing.
40:59
Even torrents, oh, no problem. Not the the Dark Iron Dwarves.
41:04
Oh my God, that's not only nothing works, absolutely not
41:08
them. No.
41:09
Not like leagues above Leaps and Bounds.
41:13
Absolutely big. Big lie.
41:15
They shouldn't even considered an Allied race, they should be
41:17
considered like God raised Idaho.
41:21
There we go. See, that's just for that this
41:24
actor Gods. Well, I mean, the kind of the
41:27
kind of the kind of work like in Lord.
41:30
Like they literally are just like, they take on the the void
41:35
like as a part of their they're just inherent being.
41:38
They are kind of like in a similar way to the the the other
41:45
draenei. Oh yeah, the the light Oh gosh.
41:51
Yeah. I know, is that the light for
41:52
it? Like the thank you because we
41:55
had a chat with the Allied races, set us up for some of the
41:59
most fascinating lore and most complex.
42:02
Look at how the light and the void affects people when it
42:04
really gets into them. And then they were like, okay,
42:06
so you got to starting zone me. Have a good day like they had
42:13
they had cool unlock quests. Yeah.
42:17
That's it was amazing. And then And then they're like,
42:20
okay, so that's, that's the story.
42:23
Meanwhile, high mountain torrent and Dark Iron Dwarves have
42:27
gotten so much, so much more than that.
42:32
And I feel like, I feel like they probably should have done
42:35
I. Well, okay, so here's here's my
42:38
my heart, take on that. I think that they are going to
42:40
wait until we get to the light and void like Eternal like space
42:47
battle. Mmm for that to like come to
42:51
fruition like they're just holding on to it.
42:54
I would like to believe that I think that that would be because
42:57
like to be super honest, I joke about it.
43:00
But I do think the most frustrating thing for me, as
43:02
somebody who was so excited, when void I was got dropped was
43:05
that they did kind of get dropped right?
43:07
Like they were put in and then we're like, Okay, bye.
43:11
So I'm really hoping and I like this is the, the Illidan like, I
43:17
am my scars. That was during my form years
43:21
and I did not shut up about how that was the greatest cutscene I
43:26
had ever seen in my life. So I am, I'm waiting for this
43:29
light and void and I'm very much hoping that they will remember
43:32
the light board and the void elves because I think that they
43:34
have so much more potential. Yeah, I I agree.
43:38
I agree. And then we kind of like we got,
43:43
we got like a little bit of like a hint as to what the other
43:48
possibilities with the, with the light forged rain, I would be
43:52
when we got the mag o'roarke thing because we had Darrell and
43:58
like they weren't exactly light forged ran away.
44:01
But they were like pretty much like forged ran.
44:05
I And that was very bad, not good.
44:10
So I would like to see, I would like to see you no more stuff
44:14
like that. They started really really,
44:19
really getting into the concept of the light is not good, the
44:23
light is Law and what does that mean?
44:25
And they like they were going and that's why I lost my mind
44:29
about the I am my scars. That was the coolest cutscene
44:32
I've ever seen and I've heard that they went into it a little
44:34
and I also before anyone gets on I also know that Bastion is not
44:38
light but they kind of started getting into that with Bastian,
44:41
but I did not play Bastion so we will pretend that does not
44:43
exist. But I am somebody, somebody in
44:50
that writing room is really pushing for this plotline and
44:53
whoever you are, I want you to know that you are my best friend
44:56
and I am behind you, 100%. Yeah, when it comes to a
45:01
cinematic, it was definitely we spend this whole time thinking
45:06
the height is the best. And that there are the good
45:08
guys, gals, whatever the true, and all that jazz, like as holy
45:13
priest. We know about the not ruin
45:15
everything. We had a little narrow bit like
45:17
popped up and helped us and Legion, like it was thing which
45:20
is totally coming back by the way, if you spec into it.
45:24
But and then all of a sudden did to realize maybe they're not the
45:28
good guys and to see Illidan react that. and when you bring
45:32
that into, Our offline lives and so many of us have scars and it
45:41
becomes a steeper meaning and like that moment was just, it
45:45
really was fantastic. I understand why you are all
45:48
about it. It was it was incredible and I
45:51
was so excited, I thought that was going to be the entire
45:54
expansion and then it'll come back.
45:56
It'll come back. Somebody's in the waiting room
45:58
and they're rapping for us, I believe in it.
46:00
We'll get, we'll get there eventually.
46:02
I I don't know. I don't necessarily know that.
46:05
We'll get to something like that, with, with dragonflight,
46:11
in particular, oh no, I don't think, but now it could be, but
46:16
maybe next expansion because I want to know why?
46:17
I still have a dang void, eyeball Shadow eyeball on my
46:23
head. When I go to braless, what was
46:25
the whole reason for me, keeping that blizzard?
46:28
Where's my payout? We got we get absolutely nothing
46:30
on that. On the still have I refuse to
46:32
get rid of it until until, I know what's up with the with the
46:35
Irish. If you think of it, I have one
46:37
character that still has it one. Caroprese closet.
46:43
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46:59
So My country we've got, we've got nothing.
47:04
We've jumped like three or four expansions into the future but
47:08
we're here mostly to talk about dragonflight, but since we're,
47:12
since we're in official pre patch mode, since we are now,
47:16
like, in the we're hurrying up or like we're still in the
47:21
hurry-up-and-wait phase of of waiting for Dragon flight, but
47:27
we have like some things that we could do.
47:31
Not like a whole lot until November 15th, November 14th,
47:37
but I kind of, I kind of wanted to end, I think I think Ali we
47:41
we know we know what your answer to this question is going to be,
47:44
but what are some of the things that you want to do to prepare
47:47
yourself for for dragonflight like, what are you doing with
47:51
your characters? Is there anything anything that
47:55
you want to, like wrap up before heading into the Dragon Isles
48:02
and starting this Quest. I like are you gonna jump in and
48:05
do as much as you can with the pre patch event, like what what
48:09
are your thoughts on like preparing for the expansion?
48:16
Why do I have a couple things? I'm gonna wrap up behind just,
48:18
you know, cleaning my bags. I I've got a couple more to the
48:21
one level. I have a couple more things we
48:24
get done. Like that quest in the mall
48:27
where you collect all the Rings for the little hand thing.
48:30
You can mount. Yes.
48:32
That's another thing where I have like a couple of the items,
48:34
but not all of them and I'm gonna get my bags.
48:36
It's all part is all particle in the bags but other than that
48:39
it's it's just it's just that really?
48:44
I think it threw me off. Even for was awesome in that it
48:48
was gave us more things do with guilt.
48:50
He's and funds and it gave us new loot and something a little
48:55
different with the raids which was cool the same time.
48:58
Like, that's when I used the loan the expansion to do my
49:01
Mount runs and all that jazz and we didn't really get that
49:06
because I'm still doing stuff on my guilties.
49:10
And so I feel like I probably do some outruns and then maybe
49:13
start picking out some favorite mounts which immediately will
49:16
get ditch anyways, because dragon writing is the best thing
49:20
ever. So yeah, because we don't know
49:24
exactly if Dragon writings gonna make it out of the Dragon Isles,
49:28
we just know that it's going to be there but if I had my
49:30
preference I would say absolutely dragon writing or
49:33
nothing. I might I might have an
49:36
addiction I have to admit it. It's It's the latter.
49:41
I think it's, it's soaked. I'm not gonna get any questing
49:44
done because I'm just going to be flying around doing time.
49:46
Trials, the entire suspension. I've traveled hundred feet.
49:51
Oh, I'm just gonna drag right there.
49:52
It's fine. Okay, I messed up with him here,
49:54
Lin, it's great. I have to, I have to give a
49:56
shout out to To Seoul so Breezy. Tweeted out a video that was
50:04
really good of everyone. Everyone when dragonfly comes
50:10
out and we unlike dragon writing is just immediately.
50:14
Jump up directly into the air boost up as high as you can go
50:20
and then nose dive down. Yep. 10 feet away from you.
50:27
Everyone's gonna be doing it, it's gonna be amazing.
50:32
Can't not do it. Exactly?
50:34
What? Yeah, Lex.
50:36
We know that you're not going to be playing until probably
50:38
November 15th. But once November 5th, gets
50:41
here, whatever you want to do plans, what are you gonna do?
50:45
My plans are to disconnect from the entire world, okay?
50:49
And play a lot of just everything.
50:53
Um, yeah, I mean, I I am very excited to start going through
50:59
the quest so it's probably gonna happen is I'm going to go
51:01
through the quest and I'm going to make my guild go into
51:04
Dungeons and by what dungeons? I mean the one time Jen and I am
51:07
going to spend the entire time making wild Fantastical idea
51:11
like you know hypotheses about where the Lord's going.
51:14
And they'll be like it's probably going to go this more
51:16
straightforward way and I'm like, no, no.
51:18
Because you can see this one clue where there's a pixel
51:20
broken over here. So it's gonna go like this and
51:22
that's gonna go the normal way that they expected, but I'll be
51:25
fun, it'll be okay. I spent weeks convincing myself
51:28
that it was gonna be this absolutely Bonkers.
51:30
Ridiculous plot plan. That doesn't make any sense.
51:33
Um, so that's what I plan to do. I plan to come up with insane
51:36
theories that will never happen. Okay.
51:39
There are, there are some juicy books in there.
51:42
Oh, we love a juicy book. Oh yes.
51:44
We do man. I'm so excited or several joke
51:48
books in there. So between that and the Primus
51:51
invasions, it's gonna be fun. I'm excited.
51:53
Yeah I do love an invasion. I Missed the legion pre patch, I
51:58
think was the greatest, I'm gonna sound like such an idiot.
52:00
If this is not the type of invasion that the, that it's
52:02
going to be going on since I didn't play beta.
52:04
But I the most I've ever played in my entire life was the legion
52:07
pre patch. I just ran between invasions and
52:09
I had the time of my life. So this is going to be like,
52:13
you're going to probably be able to do that but the way that
52:17
these are set up is that there is like a big bus thing that is
52:22
looming over the zone that the invasion was happening and and
52:26
It'll be like a bunch of little minions of the Bosnian around
52:31
and the bosses impervious to damage until all the Minions are
52:35
killed. So you have to go around doing
52:37
things to kill all the minions and then the Box becomes
52:41
activatable and you can kill him and get loot.
52:46
Oh my God. If you're my boss and you're
52:47
listening to this when I start calling out sick every single
52:50
day for the entire Community between November 15th and the
52:53
28th. I, it's something else.
52:55
It's not because I'm playing Something completely clearly
52:59
totally unreal. Oh goodness gracious.
53:03
Goodness gracious. Yeah I I don't know, I don't
53:09
know that there is much else aside from because I'm I am not
53:15
going to be exclusively playing between the 15th and the 28th as
53:20
noted by. I've already got one class to 60
53:24
and it's been the servers have been live for 24 hours.
53:33
So I feel like I feel like like I've got my work kind of cut out
53:39
for me in that. Like, if if I was going to meet
53:44
my goal of having within one expansion, having one, one level
53:50
60 of each class Now's the Time to do it because we do have the
53:54
50% experience bonus going on right now until the 15th which
54:00
is then being Shut off because director of okay, November 15th,
54:04
November 14th 15th. So I'll have I'll have two weeks
54:11
to get like at least a couple of classes capped and I don't
54:17
think, I don't think I'm going to have the time to be able to
54:19
do that because I am still like I am rating and have to do
54:22
things to like make sure that my character is prepared and like
54:27
can go into raids and not die and like be a contributing like
54:33
very good contributing member to my guild.
54:39
So like I will have limited time but I think I think that it is
54:43
it is of all the times in my history of playing World of
54:48
Warcraft now is probably the closest I may ever get to having
54:53
one of each classic cap and I'm a little sad because I already
54:58
know I already know it's not gonna happen but like the goal
55:02
is there. But maybe, maybe it's possible.
55:07
I think you can do it. I could I think I have full
55:10
faith. I could.
55:11
In fact I have decided the same way that we're going to get
55:15
murlocs. You are going to finish.
55:21
I appreciate your confidence. Oh no, ya know.
55:25
You got it. Not a doubt in my mind 02 the
55:30
350Z. I know.
55:34
It's because I haven't leveled anyone.
55:35
So I know it must be that some avoiding it actually is because
55:39
it's so easy. See, I know you got this too
55:41
easy for lunch. Yeah, II.
55:43
Just I will not devote my time to such a pedestrian manner
55:46
matter. No entirely pedestrian can't.
55:50
Oh yeah, oh gosh. Well Listeners.
55:58
I hope you are having a fantastic time in the pre patch
56:02
likes. I know that you'll have a
56:03
fantastic time on the 15th and Ali.
56:05
I do remember, you're also going to have a fantastic time.
56:08
The pre patch staring at your bags.
56:10
Longingly waiting for someone to come along and just like clear
56:15
out your bag for you. Probably know just extra hours
56:22
in the day so I can finish all the random Loose Ends.
56:25
Yes, there are bags, we're always talking about the loose,
56:28
The lore you should see a loose ends, my bags.
56:30
So many you don't have to. You never have to clean out your
56:33
bag Valley. It doesn't have to happen.
56:35
Just get the bags laughter. Don't listen to the haters.
56:38
You like easier though? No, here's what you do.
56:42
You make an alt and then you just mail everything to your alt
56:48
and probably done a lot of theory.
56:50
I'm gonna be doing more of like for especially my region tab my
56:55
bank allow. That's going to an automated
56:57
Specifically on my now main server to go.
57:04
That can pick at the store dogs originally had.
57:06
Most of my tunes on one server and then I started playing my
57:08
current Guild and I love them. So now I'm like, well, my life
57:11
needs is totally transition over to here.
57:13
I need a new bank vault, excuse to have a full like Guild Bank
57:17
to use for storage and I don't have that currently.
57:21
So oh gosh how to fix things. Yeah, you gotta you gotta it's
57:26
all about having the eight mule characters that are all in a
57:31
gonna get that you're using there.
57:33
That Guild Bank for extra storage that everyone knows
57:37
this. This is just how it works.
57:41
I would like to State for the record that listening to you
57:43
guys. I never want to hear anyone talk
57:45
about my bags again organized, I have like zero junk.
57:53
I had a bitch, ually clear out everything for my bags as often
57:59
as I as I can. Like if if it even looks like
58:02
it's like I might not have like a whole solid bag open at all
58:09
times. I immediately just like, nope,
58:12
get rid of everything, delete everything, is that something
58:16
that I've been holding on to since Firelands get it out of
58:19
here. Is that is that Mexican stuff?
58:22
I'm never doing that. Get it out of here.
58:25
I don't want it Liv knows how to Marie kondo the bags.
58:30
They go into this. I just spark Joy.
58:33
No. Get Out.
58:34
Just eat it into the sun. Directly with no remorse.
58:40
And no looking back. No.
58:42
None of that at all. Okay.
58:47
Well then I think that's a good, a good place to wrap this
58:51
episode up. So let me let me know what you
58:56
guys have going on. Allie Ware first off.
59:00
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59:02
your life? Well, you can find me and the
59:07
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59:11
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59:16
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59:19
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59:28
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59:30
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