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- MARK HAYES (00:01.206) Let's find out. Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen, another exciting edition of Two Minute Black and White, an Honest Conversation. Just a couple of high school basketball bros. Love to run the give and go. Brock was the king of give me the ball and go to hell. But we are now taking a look at today's shit show known as the Trump Administration 2.0. Brock and I looking at our prospective communities. trying to figure out what the hell is going on and why Black America and White America are so far apart. Brock and Ellis joins us from the lovely confines of the Upper Hudson River Valley near Ryan Beck, New York. Brock, it's absolutely beautiful up there. You must be absolutely comfortable in your lovable abode up there. I'm doing well right now here outside of Atlanta, in Atlanta suburb. 404 Day was celebrated on Saturday, just to... Brock Ganeles (00:46.603) MARK HAYES (00:56.578) made up holiday down here, you know, the ATLians, just love it. But Brock, yesterday, Easter Sunday, I was extremely disturbed and was looking for 25th Amendment calls anywhere I could find them. Trump's war crime signaling post on his truth or social or whatever it was, the dude is absolutely off his fucking rock. Brock Ganeles (01:25.301) So yesterday in a war and I ran war that we have no idea why we got into in the first place, still never explained. We have not been given a clear goal of what our mission is there while we put troops at risk and throw all this money at, the endeavor. And yesterday, because he's boxed into such a corner because the global economy is tanking with this straight-ahorn moose disaster that no one, quote, nobody saw coming. Yeah, really actually announcing to the world and sad to say we're the citizens of America. So this is us. He's representing us, our commander in chief, announcing to the world that tomorrow the United States military is going to commit war crimes. MARK HAYES (01:53.038) Woof! Brock Ganeles (02:21.087) That's what we're going to do. He's been saying it 48 hours. guess he decided, you know, decided to announce it about 1 30 a.m. in the morning or something, right? But that we're going after civilian targets and we're going to basically destroy civil life and people along the way as you know. MARK HAYES (02:38.19) Peace. MARK HAYES (02:42.798) many people yep Brock Ganeles (02:46.237) in a bombing. like, I mean, it's just, we've, you he's just announcing we are going to be a party to war crimes tomorrow unless there's a taco. But I mean, it's the more he talks about it, the harder it's going to be to walk away. MARK HAYES (03:00.526) but he can't talk. Exactly. I was just gonna say that and he can't taco because if he tacos Right. First of all, we call him taco then we get back to the Epstein files and remember We started a fight with tech support, right Iran has a 90 % literacy rate. They are some of the smartest people on the planet as a whole, right? They understand why we are doing what we're what why Trump is doing what he's doing to them. They know that the Epstein files are his Achilles heel. Brock, what did I tell you when we started this thing 8, 949 videos ago? This ain't going away. This ain't going away. And now we've got reports of Iran releasing what seemed to be what you and I think are new pictures. I haven't seen these pictures before, have you? No. Brock Ganeles (04:03.987) I had not. And for those watching the show, this is what me and Mark were scrolling just in the last 10, 15 minutes, looking at what apparently are really visit videos from the Iranians. And yeah, that's a lot. mean, we're just worried about deep fakes, which is why we're going to couch our comments a little bit here. But that's a lot of what appeared to me to be new, new photos to me of Trump in very compromising positions. MARK HAYES (04:24.332) Right. Brock Ganeles (04:34.047) with very young girls, very scantily dressed, in very sexual, sexualized sort of interactions. They look really bad. I don't know how you talk. If these are real, I don't know how anyone defends a 50 year old man in these photos. MARK HAYES (04:35.768) Young. Young. MARK HAYES (04:45.804) Yeah. Now. Yeah. MARK HAYES (04:58.062) Right. Yeah, because this is 25 years ago, 20 years ago. We don't know how long it went on. Actually, it might have been going on up until the time he ran for president in 2016, 2015 when he came down the escalator. We don't know. But Brock, riddle me this. We know Russia is helping Iran identify sensitive targets, military targets. that the US has throughout the Middle East, right? Because Trump has given them all that information. All those sensitive files that were in the shitter at Mar-a-Lago are now in Russian hands. We know that, right? It's just that nobody will do anything about it. What if Russia also got their hands on the Epstein files and has forwarded them to Iran? Very plausible, very plausible. Brock Ganeles (05:54.433) Not out of the realm of possibility. Makes sense. Gives them some ammunition to fight back, to embarrass Trump on the World's Straight, to embarrass America on the world stage, to diminish America. Russia's ultimate goal, Putin's ultimate goal. And it's working. And they put out a bunch of really creative and funny videos. MARK HAYES (06:07.352) Yep. MARK HAYES (06:12.802) Yeah. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (06:23.233) over the last several weeks, the Lego stuff, the Hexed stuff, you know, show and the a billion dollars burning on the table because they were running through a billion dollars a day. Like they're really showing a creative side to the Iranian people and smart about how they're making fun of us. But yeah, clearly, clearly these photos. I'm just waiting for more commentary on these photos because maybe is this the stuff Congress saw, Congress people saw in the skiff? MARK HAYES (06:25.036) been trolling the shit out of us MARK HAYES (06:36.514) Yeah. Right. Brock Ganeles (06:51.243) when they were able to see the Epstein files when they talked about them. So are these photos not new to our Congress people? But I'm going to be curious to anyone who jumps in the chat if they're seeing these photos and what supposedly has come out of Iran, if it's new to them as well. I I've looked at a lot of Epstein stuff and it was new to me. MARK HAYES (06:54.67) Thank you. MARK HAYES (07:09.368) Right. MARK HAYES (07:13.89) Yeah, yeah. I mean, we've been following it and I swear by it because, you know, any person crazy enough to do what he's doing now, and remember when this whole thing started, Iran said, we will release compromising photos of Donald Trump from the Epstein files if he starts bombing us. So we knew it was coming. You know, maybe snail mail just took a little bit longer of getting it from Russia to Iran. I mean, I know there's quite a distance there. But, you know, I'm not surprised, Brock. I'm not surprised. And we knew this was coming. And this is why this fool is talking about committing war crimes. Brock Ganeles (07:53.899) You know- Brock Ganeles (08:05.215) Mark, had in my notes earlier today, one of the things I was going to talk to you about today was that I've been somewhat disappointed that we had that first of all, of course, the Epstein files have gone quiet for a month now that Mark Waymullin has taken over. Blanche has taken over. He's saying nothing new is going to come out. But I've been disappointed because I'm thinking back, hey, I thought the victims were going to put a list together and release it. I thought MTG was going to announce all the names. or Massey was going to announce all the names and none of that has happened. We've kind of let the Epstein story fade to the background for a month to six weeks. I guess Iran's dredging it back up, which is, you know, in some respects a good thing. In terms of the war, I can't imagine that it's not going to just inflame Trump worse, but maybe they're baiting him to MARK HAYES (08:35.789) Right. MARK HAYES (08:45.218) Right. Brock Ganeles (09:04.725) commit war crimes. MARK HAYES (09:06.284) Yeah, and and because remember Every time something on the epstein files comes out. He's got to escalate Right. He's got to kick it up a notch, right? So I mean war crimes makes perfect sense war crimes from here on out Makes perfect sense You know, he said okay you want to release, know dirty pictures of me. All right, i'm gonna bomb nursery schools you know, elementary schools and any place else, I'm gonna make your people suffer. Cause he doesn't care. Brock Ganeles (09:39.765) We've seen with Trump, if you let him, you let Trump cross the line without pushback, he's going to keep doing it. So yeah, this won't be the last war crime. MARK HAYES (09:40.056) You can care less! MARK HAYES (09:49.806) Right? And he said, I don't care. I'm not concerned about war crimes. Not at all. That's what he said earlier today in a presser. You know, bombing the bridges, power plants, if they don't meet his eight o'clock deadline, you know, to reopen the strait. They're not opening that strait. They don't care about him and his idle threats. Right? Cause he's gonna taco. You can't, again. Brock, how many times do we have to say this is an unwinnable conflict that we needn't be in? Brock Ganeles (10:22.689) Okay, but do you think he's gonna go through with the bombing tonight or tomorrow morning whenever, whenever happens? Do you think he's gonna back down? Yeah, if they missed the deadline. MARK HAYES (10:32.707) if they mess with you, yeah, he's gonna do it. He's going full force. He's gonna tell them, he's gonna tell his generals, his generals to do it because we got two mad men running the military right now. Right, Hegseth is a nut job. He doesn't understand what's going on. He doesn't understand the ramifications of his actions. And hopefully we can get these guys out of office and get them prosecuted and keep them from stealing another mansion. Brock Ganeles (11:04.641) Do you think a single serviceman will refuse the order? MARK HAYES (11:10.324) I do and I don't think we'll ever hear about it. He'll go straight to jail. Won't be prosecuted. We'll just never hear about. We'll never hear from him again. MARK HAYES (11:23.438) You know what mean? just don't think that, you know, they're gonna let, because just think what happens, the ripple effect. If people start talking about military servicemen and women refusing illegal orders. Remember the big brouhaha over the senators that created that ad and said, hey, military men and women, you don't have to execute illegal orders. You can defy the commander when it comes to illegal orders and you should. Remember that? They tried to get Pam Bondi to prosecute those folks. Brock Ganeles (12:02.145) Well, we all yeah, yeah, Mark Kelly, they were going to prosecute Kelly in particular was, you know, slotkin and Kelly were the two biggest names Jason Crow. Well, if this bombing is just we see how the MAGA politicians are playing it. They can't control Trump. They won't confront Trump. So the ones that I saw out today were out saying. MARK HAYES (12:09.933) Yeah? Brock Ganeles (12:30.111) well, these might be dual purpose facilities. These civilian facilities could be, you know, Jerry rigged to be a part of the military. And they're already trying to, you know, lie to us. So they're trying to gaslight us to convince us that these aren't civilian targets, that there is a semblance of a military connection. Therefore, it's not a war crime. The problem is Trump's out saying. MARK HAYES (12:43.758) All right. Brock Ganeles (12:56.673) I care if it's a war crime, we're going to commit war crimes, know, basically fuck everybody else. We're going to do whatever we want. But the politicians are trying to justify it already. And as usual, they just think that like we'll swallow anything, any story. MARK HAYES (13:02.082) Right. We won. MARK HAYES (13:10.51) Anything. Yep. And that's the sad part because we're sitting here taking it. Right. You know, only, only, you know, first generations, Iranian, first generation Iranians that have immigrated to the U.S. Give a shit. Right. How many of us have been to Iran? How many of us have been anywhere near the Middle East? Right. You got to look around and find, you know, people who have went and wasted money in Dubai. Well, I'm not going say they wasted money, but You know, I don't know a whole lot of people going to Dubai. It's not on my bucket list. know, a bunch of manmade stuff is not, you know, I can go to an amusement park and see manmade shit, all right? But I mean, that doesn't particularly impress me and there's great pictures of all that crap on the internet. So I don't necessarily have to go to see it. But you know, Americans, we're just not smart. The electorate is dumb. We don't read anymore. If it's on the internet, it must be true. We don't do any fact checking or research. That's how this moron got elected. People actually thought he was a good businessman. We've talked about that ad nauseam. And then yesterday, you look at this god awful post he puts up, and you're thinking, he's a what in the fuck? How did this guy get the keys to the house? and we're gonna keep letting them drive? you know, I just don't understand it. You know, how are we okay with this, even with your racism, right? Even when Joe Biden was president, even when Barack was president, racism still went out. Bill Clinton, houses for everybody, right? Remember Bill in 1992 to 2000? Republicans were so pissed off. They had to prosecute the man and impeach him You know for having fun underneath the desk All right, nobody no, look I didn't hear anybody saying what he did was cool Right taking advantage of a young Monica Lewinsky like that right But the racism still went out even though everybody got homes think about what kind of loans they got Brock MARK HAYES (15:39.83) A lot of them got loans that they couldn't manage financially. And they eventually came back to the bank. So it was all just short lived. So the racism still wins out. You don't have to have somebody who's causing all kinds of problems all over the world just to protect his own pedophilia. The fuck? Brock, remember what the global perspective was on our economy in December of 2025. We were the envy of the world, the way Biden and his team bought us back. It's inexcusable. Brock Ganeles (16:26.409) Well, we got it. have we as American people have to tolerate a lot to be as complacent as we are to still allow Trump to be our leader and our commander in chief. And now it looks like he's going to ask us to swallow another big one, which is. Flouting international law and basically giving a middle finger to the rest of the world and saying their rules. MARK HAYES (16:49.207) Right. Brock Ganeles (16:54.901) don't matter to us. We flirted with it in the Caribbean, right? It's why when there's not pushback, bombing boats illegally, you know, with the obvious gaslighting after the fact that these, you know, that they're all, well, they call them again, drug terrorists or narco, narco terrorists was the term that was invented, right? For these fishermen are getting blown up. Trump got away with that. So then he's on to the next. So now we're MARK HAYES (16:55.576) Don't matter. Yep. MARK HAYES (17:13.77) Yeah. MARK HAYES (17:21.74) Yeah. Brock Ganeles (17:24.405) We as America, we're going to commit war crimes. So how, where are we ever going to be able to stand on any kind of moral high ground in any altercation anywhere in the world? Because now we've broken the world order. We've broken the rules. We don't care about the UN. We don't care about NATO. So every, every Alliance we've had is gone. Every international consortium. MARK HAYES (17:44.738) All Brock Ganeles (17:51.553) We're not in the Paris Accords. We got it at NIH, right? We're not involved with any other countries and we get NATO, we say is useless and we can't even get along with our neighbors, Canada and Mexico. So here we are allowing Donald Trump to isolate us in a way. And how does that make us more safe? There's no fucking way it even comes close to making us more safe. And he's going to piss away more of our tax dollars on MARK HAYES (18:08.92) Yep. Brock Ganeles (18:19.487) his vanity project that he's pretending is in our interests. So this is American decline right here. So here we go. We're a part of it and we can't say it's not us. We can't tell get on blue sky or X if you're still there and ask a world to forgive us because it is us. It's being done in our name with our dollars. MARK HAYES (18:23.938) Right. MARK HAYES (18:27.534) Bye bye. MARK HAYES (18:38.733) Right. Right, right. And that's the problem, Brock. know, we need some again, we, you know, I was really frustrated when we got off the line the other day and we were talking about leadership emerging and, trying to get that singular voice in all the different silos. And I just, kept, it kept bothering me. It's like, how, how does someone emerge? You know, in Russia, they don't have you know, the same, you know, number of distractions, right? So when a Navalny emerges, you know, there are plenty of people in line with him. So, yeah, man, it's so frustrating. Yeah, not enough. Right. Brock Ganeles (19:34.795) Yeah, but not enough, not enough. And that's why Putin shut down the internet there. Very frustrating. Well, here's another opportunity. When these bombings happen. Look, Trump dodged a bullet in the fact that we saved that pilot, right? So we didn't have the scenes of a hostage in Tehran. That were, you know, good, you know, very effective operation by our military, saved a life, saved a diplomatic disaster. So now Trump's deciding he got away with that. He's going to create his own and we're going to just see where we are tomorrow. And it's going to be very interesting to see how loud the voices are in the resistance. Cause once again, Schumer, Hakeem Jeffries, the very entrenched democratic leadership has not been that vocal or certainly not that effective as an anti-war commentary, maybe because they're so aligned with Israel. MARK HAYES (20:05.271) Yeah. MARK HAYES (20:27.255) AT ALL! Brock Ganeles (20:33.801) And this is really Israel's war. So the Democrats have been to say ineffective is an understatement, but I, I don't even think like they've tried to be an anti-war faction. think they just rolled along hoping Trump trips over himself, but there have not been effective and loud voices against this war. But I wonder, we'll see if that changes after we commit intentional. War crimes. MARK HAYES (21:05.454) Right. It'll be interesting to say the least. And America's reaction, well, I was going to say America's reaction will tell us everything we need to know, but we've seen Donald Trump credibly accused of sexual assault on grown women 26 times and now on children credibly charged. I mean, the 13 year old, yeah. Brock Ganeles (21:32.193) Katie Johnson of Virginia. Great. mean, one of those pictures, one of those pictures that I ran sent out today, I wonder, mean, I don't know who the names are of the victims that are in those, the child victims that are in those photos. that's another story that's going to unfold over the next 24 hours. If anything that we saw online is legitimate. MARK HAYES (21:35.288) Virginia True Freight. MARK HAYES (21:44.482) The victims. MARK HAYES (21:50.305) Right. Brock Ganeles (22:01.801) and it looked really legit. MARK HAYES (22:01.835) Right. Yeah, that's wild bro. It's Let's do it. What do you got for me? Brock Ganeles (22:07.009) All right, let's pop some other topics. Speaking of Russia behind the scenes, how about the fact that we're, I think, 10 days away from an election, quote, free and fair election in Hungary with Viktor Orban, who appears to be behind in the polls. And now they're jerry-rigging and coming up with some false flag activity. And Russia is getting involved because they want to keep Orban in place. And there's no doubt Trump and his his Trump and his cronies are watching to see what lessons can be learned from trying to win a free election when you're way behind in the polling. So that'll be something to keep an eye on. But of course, Putin, once again, behind the scenes playing puppeteer, trying to manipulate a Orban victory in Hungary, because, of course, Orban is in NATO, but he's basically Trump, Putin alive. MARK HAYES (22:37.217) Of course. Brock Ganeles (23:07.167) Right? It's fucking trainwrecked having him in the middle of that. MARK HAYES (23:07.5) Right. Right. Speaking of special elections, let's go to Georgia's 14th congressional district. Clay Fuller and Sean Harris are competing to take Marjorie Taylor Greene's We've got to get some sanity in that seat. The district is heavily Republican, and that's the problem. Yeah. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (23:30.837) What plus 40? Is it like a plus 35 plus 40? MARK HAYES (23:37.174) Remember it was ridiculous So but you know, we've had some plus 30s, you know turn and go minus 40 45 we've seen that now is that gonna happen in red, Georgia? Brock Ganeles (23:52.053) Do you, do you think, who's the, MARK HAYES (23:56.462) Well, we got two, yeah, got two, we have Trump endorsed Clay Fuller against the brigadier general, Sharon Harris. So, know, nobody got 50 % and we'll see what happens. You know, this is a heavy, heavy, heavy Republican area, Northwest corner of the state. Brock Ganeles (23:56.683) Who's the Democrat Harris? MARK HAYES (24:25.838) You know, Marjorie Taylor Greene had it so not, you know, this is an area that has been hit hard by the, the, you know, downturn in the economy. That Dalton area is, you know, once known as the carpet capital of the world. You know, a lot of industry, a lot of farming, a lot of farmers up there. A lot of farmers up there that gotta be hurting right about now. Brock Ganeles (24:51.019) Do you think Margie Taylor Greene's very, very aggressive, including yesterday, criticisms of Trump would have any impact on the Trump endorsed candidate being that she got so many votes there? mean, I guess it's a roundabout way of saying is does this Democrat have any chance of winning? MARK HAYES (25:12.162) Well, the last Democrat that ran against her did okay. It's just that Marjorie Taylor Greene was so strong. Now see, we have to be able to measure the infighting here. How many MAGA people have said, I'm not MAGA anymore? And we won't know that until tomorrow night. Right? How many people are fed up with the lies and the BS that they've been told? And you know, how many people are still going to shovel the shit for Trump? I mean, there's no way to know. mean, look, you got to, you got to form your vision. Brock Ganeles (25:51.241) I know, will they show up? Yeah, will they show up? Will it be low turnout? Because people are just like, well, it's really, really going to be interesting gauge of where things are in deep red America. MARK HAYES (25:59.288) Well, voter turnout is good news. MARK HAYES (26:08.566) and MAGA war. Yeah, because this is, you there was no stronger MAGA support than up there in the 14th. You know, and you got an African American candidate, you know, is MAGA gonna stay home or are they gonna come and vote for the brown guy? They couldn't hold their nose and do it for Kamala or maybe they didn't and it was manipulated. Brock Ganeles (26:31.071) More likely to stay home. don't see them. I don't think they can pull that lever, but they could stay home. MARK HAYES (26:37.526) Yeah. All right, what else you got? Brock Ganeles (26:38.945) Couple quick hits. One is, Where's your level of enthusiasm about this Artemis moon landing? MARK HAYES (26:52.114) It's through the roof. Through the roof. Can I tell you why? Personally? Brock Ganeles (26:59.999) You can tell me why. MARK HAYES (27:01.806) All right. I'm following, you know, Artemis around the moon and I'm standing out on my block in Metro Dallas. Several years ago, I just moved into this beautiful neighborhood and I was having a conversation with one of my new neighbors. Brock Ganeles (27:03.541) Please do. MARK HAYES (27:27.956) And we became fast friends and one day we're out, we're just talking about our kids, we're just walking through the neighborhood and he says, yeah, you know, my son's an astronaut. And I was like, wait a minute, isn't your name Victor Glover? He says, yeah, he says my son's Victor Jr. His son is actually piloting the Artemis. So my neighbor's son, I ran home and told him, I said, did you know Victor's son? Is an astronaut like goes into space? Brock Ganeles (28:04.961) Okay, so here's my side of it. So I don't care. I'm not a space guy at all. I don't care about any of these. I don't know. Maybe since the challenger blew up, right? I don't care about any of these things. I don't watch the space movies, this Ryan Gosling movies in space. I don't care about any of it. My quick hit today was going to be like, I don't give a shit about the Artemis, but I had a few extra minutes because you're a little bit late. And I remember hearing something about MARK HAYES (28:07.659) Okay. MARK HAYES (28:26.06) Right. Brock Ganeles (28:32.167) One of them is like spoke French and it was the first time French had ever been spoken in space. And then I Googled it and I looked at the photo of the astronauts. And I know I'm late to the party here. I looked at the photo of the astronauts for the first time and it's a black guy, a white woman. MARK HAYES (28:38.998) wow, Right. MARK HAYES (28:46.638) You Brock Ganeles (28:56.349) a white guy from America and a white fucking Canadian. And I'm like, this is a home run. Look at this shit. Look at this integrated, diverse group of people flying around fucking space. And I'm like, wow, how did I, I'm always looking for the unity. The unity is on that fucking capsule. It's an amazing F Uda MAGA. MARK HAYES (29:04.534) Yes! You're first! Yeah! harder than anyone. MARK HAYES (29:21.708) You better believe it. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (29:24.671) the fact that there's a Canadian, a black guy, and a woman of his faith. MARK HAYES (29:29.294) farther than anyone has ever traveled. Brock Ganeles (29:35.199) Yeah, so then I started reading all the stories that they'd broken that record today. And it's just like an extra sizzle that there's a Canadian on there, right? Like, yeah, you know, we can actually get fucking get along with Canada. They what a reminder. They are basically our best friends in the world. And just because our president's such an asshole that he's trying to make them enemies. MARK HAYES (29:36.748) Yeah. Yeah. MARK HAYES (29:53.196) No doubt. The jackass. Right. Right. But yeah, man. Brock Ganeles (30:00.832) So my entire tune changed in like 30 seconds and now I'm there for it. All right, my last one. it just, I mean, my head was up my ass. I'll admit it on that one. Last one. Are you following this Kanye West story in the UK? MARK HAYES (30:06.037) Yeah If Yeah, yeah, I'm totally. MARK HAYES (30:17.516) Hahaha! MARK HAYES (30:25.962) I am not. I am not. I heard a little blurb about it, but Kanye's so crazy. Brock Ganeles (30:28.917) Kanye's been, yeah, Kanye's been invited to headline some sort of concert or festival in the UK. Yesterday, Pepsi pulled out as a sponsor of the festival because they didn't want to be associated with Kanye. MARK HAYES (30:39.566) Yeah, it's not a good idea. MARK HAYES (30:47.502) Cuz I caught ya. Brock Ganeles (30:51.943) And now it's a big kerfuffle over there in the UK because the managing director of the of the event is basically saying, you know, we're trying to be forgiving here and blah, blah, blah. And now that the the UK citizens have woken up to the fact that Kanye is about to headline this festival. MARK HAYES (30:56.11) Thank MARK HAYES (31:14.179) You can't change things at once. Brock Ganeles (31:18.589) It's become a major, major story there. I don't feel like it's going to turn out well for Kanye. And as we've been talking about, because of what you told me, what Tabitha said about boycotting people's music when you don't like their stance, I'm getting the feeling that Kanye may get pulled from that festival and start feeling some economic impact here and social embarrassment and social embarrassment impact. MARK HAYES (31:33.706) yeah. MARK HAYES (31:41.677) Yeah! MARK HAYES (31:46.338) Yes, bro, like it's it's happening the TLC tour TLC in vogue and salt and pepper. The church's money is all fucked up They are there. They're talking about canceling that to Jamal Hill was like You know, we had a whole squad going They bought VIP tickets and everything. They said they're gonna eat their tickets rather than go and patronize chili. Brock Ganeles (32:18.625) wow, could Chili get kicked out or could TLC get kicked out of the, and they would replace them with a different band? MARK HAYES (32:23.424) No, that's all. MARK HAYES (32:28.002) That, I mean, I don't know. How do you do that when people have already bought tickets? What if some people say... Brock Ganeles (32:34.109) I I don't know. Yeah, they get refunds maybe. MARK HAYES (32:37.378) What if some MARK HAYES (32:41.153) Yeah. I don't Brock Ganeles (32:44.385) All right. I'm here for all of this shit. It's about time shit got stirred up, right? That nothing just slides by that we don't pretend like there's parts of society that aren't political because they all are. Everything's a statement. Every dollar we spend is a statement. Every tax dollar spent is a statement on our values. Every place we put every place we choose to put our eyeballs is a statement. MARK HAYES (32:49.506) Yes! MARK HAYES (32:56.906) All are. Right. MARK HAYES (33:07.021) Yep. MARK HAYES (33:12.376) Yup. Brock Ganeles (33:14.217) It's an economic statement. It's a social statement. It's a statement of support. And in the environment we're in, we all got to be diligent about how we spend our human capital and who we spend it on. MARK HAYES (33:19.234) Word. MARK HAYES (33:27.394) Yep. All right, buddy. Sounds good. Good stuff. We'll see if we commit more crimes coming up. Stay tuned. Same bad channel, same bad time, Yes, indeed. Talk to you. Revolution. Brock Ganeles (33:38.667) Stay tuned for the war crimes. Yeah, we got that to look forward to. All right, Mark, always a pleasure. All right, let's see, we'll talk tomorrow. Okay.