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• Cody: Everyone, welcome back to another edition of AGT Time. Commenter, it's our season finale. AGTCommenter: It's our season finale. We have reached the end of the year ⁓ on the AGT Time pod. ⁓ We're gonna do a little talk on that too, but 35th and final episode of the off season, Cody. ⁓ It's been a fun off season. It's been a fun off season. ⁓ You look back at it, we did two full season rewatches. We talked to Tom Cotter and Selena. Cody: It's been a fun off-season, yeah. AGTCommenter: ⁓ We revealed the ballot. then revealed the class of the Hall of Fame. did eight episodes of the AGT rewatchables. We introduced a new game show. We did a Reddit episode. It's been a fun off season. We did some new stuff. ⁓ And ⁓ I'm kind of sad that it's over. ⁓ But it's time for the next year to start. So how about you go ahead, tell people where to find us. And then we got a bunch of random stuff to get into to wrap it up today. Cody: It's time for the next chapter. Yes. Yeah, so you can find us on our socials at a GT time pod You can email us a GT time pod at Gima comm and go check out our new website a GT time pod comm ⁓ Commenter I want to recognize a birthday that we had this past week ⁓ friend of the friend of the podcast Victor Had his birthday this past week the Victor who famously May 12th AGTCommenter: yeah yeah may what may what again was it 12th yeah yeah Victor yes yes yes yes yeah shadow Victor I wonder how old he is today this week and Minnesota Ryan yeah big birthday week for the pod ⁓ Victor and Minnesota Ryan ⁓ yeah now that's ⁓ Cody: May 12th, yeah, so Victor Victor famously of the clairvoyance finale. Yeah, finale. Yeah, so Minnesota running yes Yes AGTCommenter: ⁓ Happy birthday to them. ⁓ We had some AGT Season 21 news this week, which we'll talk about here in a minute. ⁓ If you're listening today, I think what I said to you, Cody, before we logged in, this is gonna be a very internal pod. This would be like, I the best way to put it is like if you flipped on ESPN and they were doing a documentary about the creation of ESPN. They're not talking about sports games today. We're not talking, we have no recaps, we have no acts that are, Cody: Sure, sure. AGTCommenter: that we're highlighting, got, we are, this is all AGT time, baby. We're talking, I did some curating of the history of the podcast and got some statistics ironed out. We're gonna talk through Cody's leaderboard a little bit. We're gonna talk some Hall of Fame stuff. If you're a fan of this pod, this is, if you're a junkie for this, this is gonna be a great episode for you. But Cody, had some AGT Season 21 news this week. Cody: Yeah. Yes we did. AGTCommenter: we found out that they're going to kinda do a second round of auditions. I know what it is. I feel like I'm all over it. I might be wrong. I might be wrong. I'm happy. Hopefully I am wrong, but I feel like I've snuffed this out for exactly what it is. They're going to do the last episode of auditions. And then in the back, it might be there. feel like it'll be its own episode, but it's one episode. We'll see X amount of them perform and it's not going to be judge cut. If you're sitting at home excited for the return of judge cuts, you're going to be very disappointed by judges callbacks is what they're calling it. Cody: I it is going to be its own episode, yet. Is this judge's favorites? AGTCommenter: It's, well, it's very X Factor. So Simon used to do this on X Factor where he'd bring Axe, he'd bring Axe, well, so he used to bring Axe ⁓ to his house and they would try to basically get their way back on the show and things like that. ⁓ And so where was that Simon interview? Did you flip through that article? Cody: Okay. ⁓ he's bringing X-Factor stuff in? ⁓ my goodness. Okay. TV TV guide it was on it was shared. Yeah shared with us on Twitter AGTCommenter: are fr- Yeah. ⁓ and we pull it up. TV Insider, ⁓ Cody: Yeah, there you go. AGTCommenter: They got an exclusive with Simon. So they're introducing judges callbacks. ⁓ And that is, me get Simon's actual quote. Cody: And shout out to AGT Insider who's kinda keeping us in the loop. AGTCommenter: So. Yeah, he's our, they I guess are our number one news source for this show. We don't do the, we're not scouring the news. ⁓ Simon said, one question I get asked a lot. I don't know, no way he gets asked this that much. Anytime anybody says that, no one's ever asked him this question. Yeah. Cody: You Right. Yes. AGTCommenter: One question I get asked a lot is how do you decide who makes it through to live shows? We've been trying to be more transparent year after year, which couldn't be a bigger lie. You've gotten less and less transparent every passing year. We learn less about how they go through. And then we said, let's just show the audience how we get to that place. Like you just stumbled upon a new idea. ⁓ You have your golden buzzers. There are about 44 spots for live shows. When you watch the taste back, there's about, say, 20 acts, which I call no brainers. Then we have the maybes. Cody: No, that's right. AGTCommenter: These are acts who we think have got potential and in an ideal world you'd want to see again. So effectively that's what we've done. Each judge has chosen a number of acts that they want to see, which I kind of like this. I think I'm seeing six. So I wonder, are they just performing just for the individual judge that picked them? And then I might put all of mine through, or I might put one through whoever we feel has done enough to merit being in the live shows. ⁓ And then he says, they come to my house and I can give them a bit more advice this way. Cody: Maybe. AGTCommenter: I'm excited about doing it. get to tell them next week. Sometimes I get frustrated because I really wish I could do a little more, but this way I can. that's, and then this guy asks, TV Guide Magazine in 2013 published 60th nasty TV villains of all time and he, they put Simon at number 10. Simon was flattered. Cody: I don't think he's as much a villain anymore as he was 20 years ago. Yeah AGTCommenter: No, yeah. 2013 was, yeah. So that's what they're doing for judges callbacks. Again, if you're looking for a robust round of auditions, second round of auditions, you're going to be let down. But this is better than nothing. I'll take this. At least we get to kind of feel like they're doing their due diligence. But it does sound like there's going to be 11 audition golden buzzers again. Two for, or no, nine. Two for each judge and then Terry's, yeah. maybe it is two for Terry, which is ridiculous. ⁓ And then did you see him talk about his future on the show? Cody: And one for Terry, yes. It seemed like it said 10 in there. Yeah. Maybe Terry got left out last year. ⁓ that he's he might handed off sooner rather than later AGTCommenter: Yeah, so the interviewer asked how much longer do you see yourself at the helm of AGT and Simon said at some point realistically I've got to hand over the reins that's going to happen the question is when but the show is going to live on so from Simon in Simon's view oops in Simon's view this show post Simon will continue to to be on which is which will be an interesting if that actually does happen who knows it's always interesting like how much say he has on how long it lasts because at some point the network picks obviously. But yeah, interesting. Cody: Yeah, we talked in our Reddit episode how long this will last and I think I put the overrunner at 25 and a half. But the Got Talent franchise is so massive and AGT has to bring in some of the biggest money. AGT and VGT probably bring in the biggest money of all. They probably keep the other Got Talent shows alive, be my guess. AGTCommenter: Right. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah, so I don't see why they would it would end like we talked about in the reddit episode So yeah now interesting stuff, but shout out judges callbacks. We'll have at least a little little discussion there Hopefully that means we get a little less auditions episodes. It's got to be at least one less, right? If they're if they're going if they're going through but yeah, so Cody: Yeah. Yeah. I hope so. Cause the time frame seems to be the same as it was last year. AGTCommenter: Yeah, did we have a 4th July interruption last year though? might be where they're getting the extra episode back and then we will end up with the same amount of auditions anyways. Because they got one more episode back in their pocket. But yeah, so any other thoughts on the upcoming season? This is our shot. Yeah. Yeah. Cody: We did not have an episode 4th of July last year. Okay, so... I'm intrigued to see this. AGTCommenter: We'll make our predictions for it. So Cody and I are record the ballot reveal episode that comes out in the fall after we're done with this one. And so we'll make our predictions for what happens in season 21. So then when that one posts, we did that last year. You predicted a female singer was going to win. Cody: I a female ⁓ original singer. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Singer-songwriter, yeah. Yeah, close enough. Great call by you. ⁓ there's only been two, like up to that point, there had only been two female singers that had won the show, so wasn't like you were playing the hits or anything. That was a good call by you. I've been racking my brain on what I'm gonna predict, I, it's hard to just not predict the singer. But, I've gone two in a row. But, anything else on season 21 stuff? Cody: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: Alright, can't wait. Couple weeks. ⁓ Cody: ⁓ this question did come up kind of in Reddit as well. Is this the 20th anniversary? It's season 21, but it's the 20th anniversary, right? Season two would be the first anniversary. Season three would be the second anniversary. I want to make sure we're on the same page on that. AGTCommenter: Sure. Yeah, I guess. Technically. That's going to, what you're talking about there is going to pop up in the last section of this pod, because my brain struggles with, because some of the eligibility stuff for the Hall of Fame, I, I think it might be my number one weakness is like remembering how many years things, years versus seasons versus, it's, but we're going to figure it out. But. Cody: Okay. Mm-hmm. Okay, okay, AGTCommenter: Speaking of years and seasons, so like I mentioned, we've kind of, we've kept track of how many episodes we've done of this podcast over the years. We've done our 300th episode, Extravaganza. We did our 400th episode, Extravaganza, this year. ⁓ But I felt like we were missing from an archival standpoint. the breakdown of each year. so our pod operates on the AGT time calendar. We're kind like the Chinese calendar. We have our own calendar. It's a fiscal calendar. So we, this pod marks the end of this year. So the next pod, everybody's going to get in their feed from us will be Cody and Jay barring any changes. Cody and Jay recapping the first episode of season 21, auditions one. That'll be the mark of the new year, which will be the Cody: It's a physical calendar. Yeah. AGTCommenter: the 11th year of this pod, Cody, which is kind of crazy. Double digits and not just 10, we're now into 11. So we are wrapping up year 10 today, Cody. So I went back. Cody: It real quick is if season 11 of AGT is the best season ever will season 11 of this pod be the best season ever? Okay AGTCommenter: Hopefully, I mean, I think the argument would be this year was year 10 has set the standard, especially with our in season coverage. We did 32 in season episodes, which dwarfed any other season we did because we were doing reaction pods, raw analytics. We were doing three pods a week for five, for six straight weeks. But either way. So I went back and I went through and I actually separated the years and Cody, you have the spreadsheet. So anything that. Cody: Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: you can shout out anything you notice, but if you go back to year one, 30 pods in year one, 15 in season, 15 off season. I'm not gonna go through every individual year if you're sitting there going, ⁓ my God, he, like I'm just reading people the newspaper or something. ⁓ But the first four episodes, really the first like seven episodes of this pod were a roller coaster. It starts, we've heard the opening. Welcome to America's Got Podcasts. I'm Cody Mims. I'm joined today by AGT aficionado, GJ Corbin. How you doing? I don't know about that, but I'm here. An opener, one of the great podcast openers of all time. That was opener. Cody Mims and GJ repped out the first three episodes. The third one was new podcast equipment, the first three were what they were, and then GJ was busy. So the actual third host of AGT Time was not Cody Patterson. Cody Mims' friend Austin did the fourth episode, so shout out Austin. I feel like there's been some Austin erasure on this pod. So if you're listening Austin, we see you. ⁓ Cody Mims then repped out two episodes solo and then Cody L. Patterson came along to save the day in the seventh episode. And then Cody, you repped out all 24 to end. Notable thing in season one, Cody. One, you guys did a live finale pod, which was something. ⁓ Cody: Yes we did. Yes. AGTCommenter: never done never to be done again ⁓ no it works as a video pod not so much as an ⁓ it works as a live stream that people actually watch live not to be consumed later ⁓ Cody: No, that was not a good idea. No. Yes. It's- Yeah, no, this was ⁓ my camera pointed right at me watching the show. Yeah AGTCommenter: ⁓ yeah. And then you guys did a full season eight rewatch. The first off season of this pod. I would love to know what your, how you guys came to the conclusion to do season eight. ⁓ Cody: Yep. I think that may have been his idea. I'm not sure. Either that or we did it because I had not seen season 8. AGTCommenter: Yeah, sure. not... The interesting... Go ahead. The interesting part is you guys did it how we did it is you see on the 16th episode you did auditions one and two at same time three and four five through seven here I am sitting here. I think it wow what a great idea I had to chunk up to compress the season into into into ⁓ multiple episodes at a time you guys were doing this 16 episodes into the pod so ⁓ shout out to you guys, but that was the ⁓ Cody: Mm-hmm. Yeah. AGTCommenter: You guys did an emergency pod about Nick leaving the show, the 25th episode, entitled Big Shiny Sparkly Shoes to Fill. This was back when Cody Mims was naming each episode. We've moved on from that. Cody: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, right, I love how in episode four it's British humor and it's humor with the U. Yeah, yeah, yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah, that's how humor is spelled. So 15 in season, 15 off season that year. And then we move into year two. and Cody are back. The Cody's are back. You repped out your 16 season 12 episodes. You guys started a season nine rewatch, got two episodes in, called that. And then in May that year, during year two, Cody Mims announced he was leaving the pod, which put the pod in limbo. Cody: Yes. Yes. Yep. AGTCommenter: Year three is my favorite year. If you go to year three. One in-season pod, 15 off-season pods. So Cody potted auditions one recap for season 13 and then called it. And he did it solo. And then this show was on life support. It was, I mean, it was in a coma until the off-season. Jay came along and then you guys repped out champions. He did a Brant Steel survivor ⁓ pod to end the off-season. ⁓ Year three is kind of the transition year. Cody: Yes Yeah. Yes? Yeah, real quick, doing that solo, was, for me, very uncomfortable. Like it was not enjoyable to do it by myself. I am not solo, no, no. AGTCommenter: Yeah. You're not solo radio. That's not, that's not for you. No. ⁓ year four though, speaking of solo radio, and again, I, I, this is probably kind of the last couple we'll talk about. Jay did two solo pods in year four. You'll see the 10th episode and the 19th episode. So shout out Jay and here. Yeah, it's you're the producer. ⁓ and you'll see the, the glorious first return of Cody Mips in, in year four. Cody: Yes, yes, he's much better at it than I am. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. AGTCommenter: He did the third recap for season 14. But I wanted to talk about here, Cody. This is my Joey Chestnut, Kobayashi, Matt Stoney conversation I want to do. I would consider Cody Mims to be Kobayashi of this pod. He comes along first. This is in reference to amount of episodes recorded. He's the leader every year. Then you come along, Mr. Joey Chestnut, and you start taking the reins on that. Cody: ⁓ okay. Okay? Okay? AGTCommenter: And then there's this one random year, year four, where Jay is the leader of episodes on the pot. does 23, you do 22. Like when Matt Stoney just randomly beat Joey Chestnut. And then you go to the next year, year five, you do 48, 48 to 36. The next year, 53 to 37. The next year, 51 to 30. The next year, 54 to 30. 51 to 35. And then this year, you'll end up being 66 to 46 will be the margin of victory. Cody: Hahaha! AGTCommenter: So you like, you got beat by Jay in year four and you're like, never again. You like, buckled down and you're like, that ain't happening again. And then you ran up the score where you're now sitting with 400 and this will be your 404th recorded episode and Jay is in second at 191. So I found that to be kind of funny. It's just Jay, you got beat once and you're like, nope, that's never happening again. One other notable thing in year four, your guys's movie review. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. AGTCommenter: Star girl to wrap up the offseason in year four ⁓ Got to talk about grace Cody: Yes, we gotta talk about grace. Now I notice here is this misspelling and we have it misspelled wrong in the ⁓ yes, do we have it misspelled? Okay, okay. I was gonna make sure like do I need to go back and fix like do need to make ⁓ edits and revisions here at ⁓ eight eight years eight years later? AGTCommenter: I was probably typing too fast. I'll make that edit quick. I think I might have saw one. Yeah. All right, that's taken care of. But yeah, and then I showed up in season five little would I ever have guessed that I'd be here recording my hundred and seventy third episode ⁓ Took a gamble. I appreciate yeah, you guys humored me gave me a shot, but yeah, so When you look back at it Cody: We took a gamble! We took a gamble! ⁓ Yes! It's like taking Tom Brady in the seventh round, right? Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yes, exactly. 30 episodes year one, 19 year two, 16 year three, 24 year four. And then we became a beast. 49 episodes, 53 episodes, 52, 56, 62, and here we sit, Cody, in year 10, recording our 67th episode of... Yeah. Right in the, right, it was the exact correct amount of episodes in today's culture. Cody: It's fitting man, it's perfectly fitting You AGTCommenter: But 67 episodes in 52 weeks, Cody. Talk about that, because this is kind of your pod now, and to rep out 67 unpaid episodes is no small feat, Cody. Cody: yeah No, it's ⁓ doing those three episodes during season 20, it was a chore. It was a chore putting those out and getting the people scheduled to get them on. I enjoyed it. I loved it. I thought it was great. I was like, we're going to give this a try and see how it does. And, I'm not going to say it paid off. I didn't really see much change in it, but it was fun. It was fun to do. was fun to do the riot analytics. AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. It was. It was fun. Cody: getting the reactions from people right after the results. Cause I think that's one of the issues I've seen in the last few years is the results would come out and then Jay and I would talk about it 24 hours later. The leader, the listeners would hear it 36 hours later. And so I wanted to get something out where it was our reactions immediately after we didn't have any much time to think about it. It was just, okay, here's what it is. And then the listeners get it that night. AGTCommenter: Yeah, we were never current. Yeah, and I thought the preview of the next episode ended up being a good touch too. I felt like we needed to spice up the end season a little bit, so I thought that was good. Whether we do it to the extent we did this year again or however that works, if Rye Analytics is coming back, who knows? But ⁓ I felt like this year we did a lot of cool stuff and a lot of new stuff, but 60, 67 episodes is pretty sweet. So if we were to do that again, Cody, ⁓ Cody: Mm-hmm. Yeah. AGTCommenter: So this is 419, what's 19 plus 67, ⁓ 86. So we'd be sitting at 486 as we headed into year 12 next year. So that would be a very random 500th episode, the 14th episode of that year. Some audition episode or something. I don't know how we'd pull that off. Maybe what we should do is record an off season. Cody: 80s... yeah. Yeah. It'll be an auditions episode. AGTCommenter: like a 500th episode extravaganza to pay homage that has nothing to do with the in-season and just release it in the middle of the season. But yeah, either way. So shout out to you, shout out to us. thought that was kind of funny. You look at it, the last thing I'll note, 180 in-season episodes, 238 off-season episodes, which makes a lot of sense, obviously, because the off-season is much longer. Cody: Sure, yeah. just amazed that we're able to put out 400 pods of a show that only happens for 20 weeks, 20 weeks there in the summer, right? Yeah. AGTCommenter: I agree. ⁓ Content Machine. ⁓ It helps when you start the pod 11 years into the show because then you have all of this lag to use as off-season content to talk about old stuff. ⁓ Cody: Yeah. Y-yes. If this had come out in season 1 of AGT, I'm not sure it works. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Right, I would agree. Because we started kind of the modern off-season that we do now after season 15. The rewatchables, first season of the AGT rewatchables appeared after season, premiered after season 15. So we had 14 seasons of acts to talk through. So that part of it made it great too. yeah, so anything else? Cody: Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: Let's do last thing. So you're in first, Jay second, me third, Cody Mims fourth, Minnesota Ryan, 35 appearances is fifth, Steven with 18, and then the only other double digits, Mr. Scott Bach. 10 appearances on the AGT Time pod. Ryan Neemiller, Christy Sellers, and Tom Cotter, and Tommy from the Clairvoyance all have multiple appearances on the pod, so shout out them as well. Not Amelie. ⁓ Cody: Not Amelie. AGTCommenter: I was looking at it and I think the most random appearance, and you can tell me if you agree or disagree. I think, I decided, it might be Austin, but I don't know if it's Austin. I think the most random appearance is Avery Dixon. I think maybe it's Bandoloni, it might be Bandoloni, but. Cody: Okay. Yeah? AGTCommenter: The fact that you guys had just Avery Dixon on for like a recap episode, Ryan Hopps on, this was like Ryan's first ever appearance or second ever appearance I think on the pod. I think that's the most random appearance you can, you can, if you have any others in your head, but I think that one's right up. Cody: No, I think that's good. I think we did a lot because of Ryan. I think we were trying to get Ryan on the pod. I figured this was good way to do it. So, yeah. Right. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah, he had come on for a re- he did the Sal rewatchable and then that was the second ever appearance he made on the pod. And when I mean it was a good get, it's always good to get, you know, people that are on the show. But yeah, that one might be the most... where'd that come from? Cody: Yes. Yes. I love when he was at the end, was just like, I'm getting pretty tired. like, I know. AGTCommenter: He had had it with you guys. ⁓ no, good stuff. But all right, should we move on? All right. We got some leaderboard cleanup that Cody did. ⁓ It's nothing crazy. You made edits to four ⁓ axes, scores, ⁓ on your leaderboard. ⁓ Three of them moved up the leaderboard due to the change. ⁓ Cody: Yes. Good, they should have. ⁓ okay. AGTCommenter: And then one didn't. One score did not cause them to make a move. Two that made pretty big moves and one that made a very, very small move. ⁓ But do you want to start? Where do you want to start? Lowest to highest? Cody: Yeah, let's start with the ones that didn't move and then go to the ones that did. Let's start that way. AGTCommenter: Okay, so the Texas Tenors were sitting 35th on your all-time leaderboard. You made an edit to their, I believe to their quarterfinals, is that correct? I took the notes out now, but yeah. That did not bump them past David Garibaldi and his CMYK stays at 34. So the Texas Tenors stays firm at 35. What was the rationale on the bump up there? Cody: That is correct, they're quarterfinals. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I moved their quarterfinals to a 4.31. I felt that I had kind of underrated it a little bit and that it just needed a little bit of a bump. AGTCommenter: Yeah. What was your process in total? Was it you just looked at names that you thought were low and then you just reevaluated? What was kind of your process? Cody: Basically, yeah, that's basically what it was. I looked through the leaderboard and Obviously the ones we talked about like clairvoyance we felt was low zircaro. We thought was real low ⁓ And so I just as I was going down through there. I saw the Texas tenors I'm like that number just seems low. I kind of feel like there should be a little bit higher I didn't want to jump them up, you know 20 spots I felt if I could make a slight adjustment and I get them up a few spots But I guess it wasn't that big of a jump enough Did it seem like it made any movement towards getting a bump? Yes, Texas Tenors. AGTCommenter: Usain, Texas Tenors. Now they're still, so I can't remember what their one right before it was, but they're now at a 4.433, and David Garibaldi's at a 4.452, so they still got a little ways to go. All ⁓ right, next up is Duo Transcend. So you updated their audition, correct? What did you bump it from? Okay, you bumped it up to a 451, yeah. Cody: Okay. ⁓ so it's okay. Okay. Okay. Yes. Yes, that is correct. ⁓ I don't have what I bumped it from. that's correct. ⁓ So going back and kind of reflecting on Duo Transcend, especially from what we saw in the rewatch we just did, ⁓ I felt with them coming out, that's one of the best trapeze auditions we've seen and that I underserved it. AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Cody: And I just wanted to give them a little bit more love and just say, your auditions deserve more than what I gave it. So I've dumped it up to 4.51. AGTCommenter: It did make, they moved up one spot. So they were at 34. So they were one ahead of Texas Tenors. They jumped one over David Garibaldi. So they now sit 33rd. Cody and I'll, we should do this, because it's close enough. They're at a 4,454. And Joe Castillo, who's one spot ahead, is at a 4,455. So would you like, what would you like to do? We want to go to, Cody: Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, let's do what we can to get them above Jokesteo. Yeah. AGTCommenter: We could do, so you have the audition now at a four, five, one. You had the finals at a four, five even. Do you just wanna do that as a four, five, one, two? That makes the move, Cody. So, okay. So that now moves them one more up past Mr. Castillo. So they're 32. And then Cody, I'll note this. That brings them one behind Piff. Cody: Yes. Yes, let's make that. Yes. Yes, let's do that. Because they are better than Jokers Dio. Yeah. Okay, I think that's fair. AGTCommenter: 4456 for duo transcend and 4458. This was a log jam. Do you like? Okay. Hall of Famer, Piff the Magic Dragon. Okay. Alright, fair enough, okay. Now we get to a couple here. The last two that you had are gonna make some moves. So we'll start with Zerkaro. You had them 30th all time going into this. Oh, hold on. Oh, hold on. Cody: Mm-hmm. Yes. I think that's fair. I think that's, yeah, yeah. That's right. Let's give him his flowers. Yes, yet I had them better than Shin Lim. Right? AGTCommenter: had an edit, I have an edit. ⁓ Quick... ⁓ Cody: Get it some corrections. AGTCommenter: You have a quick change here, quick change, ⁓ quick change. It's actually going to change the rankings that we just talked about. Hold on, hold. Cody: Leah Kyle quit change. Yeah, I just want to let listeners know I did I wanted to put the numbers in but I didn't want to see the updates so I'm getting I'm getting this information as Current I'm not I don't know what the changes were AGTCommenter: Yep. Yep. Yeah, dual transcend is 31st. I want to make sure I, ⁓ nope, nope, nope. Nope, hold on. Nope, hold on. Cody: Okay. You We're having to clean up our cleanup pod. AGTCommenter: ⁓ Let's just do it this way and then I'll, this will make it easy. That was correct. Those numbers were correct. I'll do the coloring of the cells later. ⁓ So, they are 30 seconds as I said. Okay, Zercro, started at 30. You edited a handful of them, correct? Cody: I because we talked during the rewatch that I felt they were better than Shen Lim and I needed it to reflect that. This being down to the 30s did not reflect that. ⁓ Quarterfinals to a 4.52. AGTCommenter: Sure. Yep. Yeah. So which ones did you edit? You bumped that. Yep. Cody: Semifinals I went to a 4.51 and finals I went to a 4.81. AGTCommenter: Yep, so that moved them from 30th to 19th. So 11 spots. So you haven't caught Shin Lim. He's still at eighth. ⁓ But I think is a much fairer spot for Zerker O to be than 30th. ⁓ Puts them at a 4.64 even. One behind our friend Ryan Neemiller, who's at a 4.68 even. One ahead of Glenis, who's at a 4.638. Cody: Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Okay. AGTCommenter: you're cool with Glenis being behind? Okay, fair enough. Cody: Yes. Yes. Yes, I guess. I think what hurt them though is their judge cuts. AGTCommenter: who no judge cuts gold buzzer Cody: Right? that right? Zerkero. Okay. ⁓ that- AGTCommenter: ⁓ Yeah, they only performed four times. All right. Any other thoughts on the Zerkerow changes? Okay, last one then, obviously we've talked about it a bunch, but the clairvoyants needed ⁓ to be moved up. They were sitting at 18th, which isn't like a disrespectful, but in your eyes is nowhere near where they should be. One of your first acts you ever scored. Cody: That's right. Yes. AGTCommenter: which hurt the system because you hadn't really figured out what your system was yet. no, but you at least have a little better calibration. So, they were sitting at 18th, Cody, what were some of the edits you made? Yep. Cody: And I still don't know what my system is. Their judge cuts, I moved to a 4.72. Their semi-finals, I moved to a 4.61. And add this one to the list commenter. Their finals, perfect five. Perfect five. Okay. AGTCommenter: Perfect five. So that did move them up. Do you want to guess what that moved them to from 18? I'm not going to tell you that. I want you to guess. They're 11th, so good guess. So they now sit 11th, one behind Paul Zerdin, one ahead of V. Unbeatable. ⁓ Yeah, they sit at a four, seven, eight, six, and Zerdin sitting at a four, seven, nine, two. So you're happy with that. Cody: Are they in the top 10 now? Okay, they're not they're ninths. Okay, okay think that's fair. I think that's... yeah. Okay. Yes. Are you happy with that? Do think that's so much better? Okay. AGTCommenter: I think that's very fair. ⁓ I have them eighth on my all-time leaderboard. Cody: What are your thoughts on the Perfect Five? AGTCommenter: I think you're too liberal with your perfect fives. I think you throw them around like candy, personally. There's worse performances that you could allow. I love that performance. I have it though at a 4-5. I actually have it as tied for their lowest of the season. ⁓ It's so legendary. Yeah, for sure. All right. Anything else on your leaderboard? You're happy you have a little bit of cleanup done now? Yeah. Cody: Sure? Okay. Okay. Okay. I think it's just so legendary because we talk about it so much. Yes. I'm happy now, yeah, I'm happier, yes. AGTCommenter: Yeah, I think that was fair, I think that was worth it ⁓ to do that. Okay, all right, let's do this Cody. Let's take a podcast break, kind of chunk it up and then we'll wrap up our second half here. We'll be right back. now we get to talk about my favorite thing in the world, which is the AGT Hall of Fame. ⁓ So, what I wanna do, we got a couple different things that we wanna do. ⁓ One, we have to introduce a new feature to the AGT Hall of Fame. The reason we have to do it today is because the context is needed to do what we're ultimately here to do, which is to have Cody, the first ever, I think will be annual meeting of the AGT Hall of Fame Nominating Committee, which is a two-person committee made up of myself and Cody. And needed the context for that because this thing might be what the answer is for some of these and so on and so forth. Cody, I'm trying to remember the origin of this idea. ⁓ Was it you that brought it up? Did we kind of just stumble upon it in a conversation? What was kind of our, I feel like it was something like that. Yeah. Cody: I feel it was a little bit of both. I think we kind of stumbled and I was like, ⁓ hey, what about what do think of this idea? Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah, so what we're introducing today, whatever you want to call it, other Hall of Fame's have it, we're going to be calling it, I think this is the best I've come up with, I feel like I'm comfortable settling on this, we are calling it the Legacy Ballot, Cody, I like that name. What's the Legacy Ballot? You see this in other Hall of Fame's, other Hall of Fame's use it to kind of mitigate issues ⁓ with ⁓ earlier voting where, ⁓ Cody: Yes. AGTCommenter: where names didn't end up on the ballot that maybe should have at some point. That's kind of what we're doing here. It's kind of twofold. there are, first of all, this is not going to premiere this year. So there will be no legacy ballot voted on in this coming fall. So the class of 2028, as of now, is planned to be the first legacy ballot. So I'm not gonna get into like the nitty gritty on how voting is going to work and nominations or inductions and things like that. We've got... the runway on that's long enough. I just want to talk about the eligibility basically and how it operates from that standpoint. So there's basically two ways you can get on the legacy ballot. And really what we're trying to mitigate here or trying to help out Cody is one, old acts that we feel like basically deserve their day in court, but that we're pretty confident we're not gonna get votes if they were put on the main ballot, things like that. And then the other part is to give the acts that were on the main ballot a second chance basically, especially because we're going to be seeing a lot of winners fall off the main ballot. And yes, the voters have spoken and I respect their vote, including my own, which does not vote for all the winners very often. There's still the winners of the show. And there's still a part of me as the founder and president of the AGT All Fame that I'm not so sure we are properly enshrining this show if we're leaving out at least a lot of winners. And right now, the way the voting is trending, I think we're gonna be leaving out a lot of winners. So this gives us at least one chance to maybe right that wrong. I don't know if that makes sense to you. Cody: No, makes perfect sense. We see it a lot in sports where particularly some athletes may have not been favorable at a specific time or there were certain rules in place at a certain time that maybe prevented them from getting on a Hall of Fame. So then 20, 30 years, whatever it is down the road, someone says, okay, let's bring this guy back. Let's bring this athlete back and let's reevaluate and see if they're eligible to get back on. Yeah, I like it. AGTCommenter: right. Yeah, and I think part of it too is some of these early ballots were loaded, because every act was available. These ballots are going to keep getting less and less competitive. Now don't want them to become cupcakes, and if that's the case then we need to shut it down. But I think of somebody like a Michael Grimm. he just, he never stood a chance because the ballot was so loaded and there was only so many votes to go around. But if he gets put on in three years from now on the main ballot, he might get inducted over the time that he's on the ballot. So that's there. So how do you get on the ballot? Like I said, two ways. You automatically go to the legacy ballot if you are removed from the main ballot. That's the straightforward. It's like relegation in European soccer. You just, you get relegated, you go directly there. There's no ifs, ands, or buts. If you fall off the 2027 ballot, you are on the 2028 legacy ballot. No holds barred. That's the easy one. The second one has a little bit more moving parts. Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: In order to explain that, need to introduce one caveat to the main ballot eligibility that's now added. So you'll recall Cody, the main ballot, five seasons after your final season on the show, you become eligible for the main ballot. We've done that before, right? The easiest reference here would be when the next ballot comes out this fall, season 16 will be the newest eligible season because season 17, 18, 19, 20, and then obviously the summer season 21 will have happened since season 16. they're eligible. That's the easy part. Well, we needed to put a cap on it in order to make the legacy ballot make some more sense. So from when your eligibility window opens, you have 15 seasons to get put on the main ballot. If you do not get put on the main ballot in 15 seasons, or if the math is easier for you just to think of 20 seasons after your season, one or the other, you are no longer eligible for the main ballot. and you are now eligible for the legacy ballot. So you're not eligible for a legacy ballot until you're no longer eligible for the main ballot. Does that make sense, Cody? Pretty straightforward, I think. Trying to make this as simple as possible. There is no cap to legacy ballot eligibility. So you have, for the rest of time, you can be put on the legacy ballot. But if you are on a legacy ballot and you get removed from that, you don't get inducted, you're done. Cody: Yes. Yes. AGTCommenter: There's no more reconsiderations unless we get a legacy legacy ballot someday. Which I'm not going to rule out entirely. There could be a legacy legacy ballot. But anyway, that section of this is just kind of up to us. If we feel like a name should go on the legacy ballot that is no longer eligible for the main ballot, we'll put them on. That's kind of how it is. My goal is to have somewhere between like eight and 10 names on the legacy ballot every year. Now that might be... Cody: Hahaha You AGTCommenter: 10 names that have fallen off the main ballot and there is nobody that has not been on the main ballot from that second group on there. But that's kind of how that's going to operate. when you talk about 20 seasons from their final season, it's not like if we put them on 18 years into that, that they only have two years that they can be on the ballot. Once they're on, they get their five years ⁓ of ballot eligibility. But that's how the legacy ballot's going to operate. ⁓ Automatically go on if you fall off the main ballot. So it's a real gift just to get yourself on the main ballot, because you're guaranteed two shots. ⁓ Ineligible acts that are no longer eligible for the main ballot can go on the ballot. How does it work for hosts and judges, Hosts and judges are treated differently. You do not have to be off. You can be put on the main ballot whenever, right? It's like coaches and executives in Sports Hall of Fame. They're not on the same clock. Same thing for Legacy ballot. If we just decide this host or judge doesn't belong on the main ballot, but let's see what happens for them on the Legacy ballot, can. So they kind of have no rules, basically. Cody: We just want to put Brandy on there for whatever reason we could do it. AGTCommenter: We might just throw Brandy. I would never put Brandy on the main ballot, right? So that's kind of the idea there. Any questions, confusions? Again, that's the very basic part of the legacy ballot. Okay, so how does that pertain to today? Well, we do have a season that, again, we're recording this right now. The ballot will come out in 2027. So we're kind of speaking about post-season 21 stuff right now. Cody: Right. No, I think I'm good. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Season one will no longer be eligible for the main ballot. So you will not see any names from season one on this next coming ballot because they're out of eligibility. Well, all that returned, Cody. They are considered a season seven act. they have, they got, their clock is, they got a ton of time left to get on the main ballot. Cody: Yeah, no all that, no... Oh, that is true. Yeah. Yeah, let me. Yeah, me just pull up my season one here real quick. I just want to kind of get some examples of some names. Okay, yeah. Yes. Yes, okay. Yes. Okay. AGTCommenter: ⁓ I got them right here for you. The Millers, Taylor Ware, Celtic Spring would be kind of the three that are there. So they're out of eligibility. Cody: Okay. Poopalicious? Yeah. AGTCommenter: They're all out of eligibility. The ballot is done for 2027. It's in stone. So that also means, as we sit here today, that any names that are not from season two that are not on the ballot right now are also just legacy ballot people now because they'll be out of time for the next ballot. So there's a few names I wanna talk about from these early seasons in the context of the legacy ballot. The rest that we're gonna talk about are gonna be in the context of the main ballot. So the clock has started. on acts running out of time on the legacy ballot. any thoughts, questions? Are you excited about the legacy ballot? Cody: I am a little excited about the legacy battle. Yes, I like giving these acts an extra opportunity. AGTCommenter: And I will say the one quick thing, only one per year can go into the Hall of Fame from Legacy Ballot, max. And it could be as low as zero. we're not making this new ballot to chuck six names every year onto it from it too. So, you get one at the most. Could be zero if not enough votes happen. Okay. Here's what I wanna do. I wanna talk about a couple names from Season One here. And basically what we're doing today on this is, do we think yes? Cody: That's fair. Yeah. Right. No, you get one. Yeah. AGTCommenter: They should definitely be on a legacy ballot. Doesn't need to be today, like on the next one, but at some point, or we basically just put, let's revisit it again next year. That's kind of what we're doing today. Wait, or yep, make sure they're on the list to be put on at some point, okay? This is your chance, Cody, to take some on the fence stances. You do not have to, this is not a firm, so I know you like to kind of play the... Cody: Okay. AGTCommenter: middleman Cody sometimes. is a great opportunity for you just to be like, let's wait. So first one, third place finisher in season one, the Millers, Cody. What was their act again? Cody: ⁓ they were a singing group. Vocal group. Yeah, they were... Correct. Yes. Yes. Yeah. AGTCommenter: They were singing. All that was the clogging group. I get them mixed up. I'll let you go first on this. Is this a name that absolutely at some point should be on a legacy ballot or should we just kind of let the legacy ballot play out for little bit and come back? Cody: think we should let it play out and come back for the Millers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm good on weight on the Millers. AGTCommenter: I agree. I marked weight. So you're good on weight on them. Yeah. I'm not going to say it's impossible, but they're not very good. Okay. I think we, like I said, I'm hoping we'll fly through most of these. The other one, the only other one I want to talk about from season one today is Taylorware, our fourth place finisher. Subject in one of your personal rewatchables, you'll recall. This one, I'm assuming you're going to be a little bit more on the fence on this. What do you think? Let's talk it out. Cody: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. No, I would be in favor of putting Taylor Ware, the yodeler, on the ballot. I think the yodeling is a very unique talent that we don't see very often. We don't see a good yodeler very often on AGT. And she might be a one of one, really. So I would be in favor of putting Taylor Ware on the legacy ballot. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yep. Yep. Sure. I think that's totally fair. I had it as probably a wait. Again, part of it is like how big is the ballot going to be, but that doesn't really matter. ⁓ I think there's one name on here that I would say that we'll talk about here next that has to be on the first legacy ballot in a year. But ⁓ we haven't had a lot of great yodlers. So I think it's fair for wear ⁓ to ⁓ put her on the legacy ballot. A little rhyme there for the people. Cody: Okay. Sure. Yeah. Correct, yes. Yeah, and it's a very season one type act. I'm not sure this would play well in double digit seasons. AGTCommenter: How confident are you that she can get the votes on the legacy ballot? Yeah. Which is fine. ⁓ This is kind of my thing with the main ballot. Again, it's not my job to decide who and who isn't going to get votes at the same time as the maker of the ballot in the Hall of Fame. Cody: think it'd be tough. I think it's gonna be tough to get the votes. Yeah. AGTCommenter: don't want to get these acts embarrassed by just putting them on the main ballot and then getting zero votes. So part of my thing is to try and guess who and who isn't going to get votes. But okay. Cody: Right. Yeah, yeah. I will always use the caveat though of it depends on who else is on the ballot. Yeah. AGTCommenter: For sure, yeah. So you wouldn't say, I don't think either of us are like, get her on as soon as possible, but put her in the list of this ⁓ is one that should be on the ballot at some point. ⁓ Yeah, I'm gonna go back quick too. We currently have three acts, three names on the first legacy ballot as we sit here today. Michael Grimm, Kevin Skinner, and Joe Castillo will be on the first legacy ballot, because they fell off the ballot last year. So we already know how some of it's coming together. All right. Cody: She's definitely a consideration. Yes. Okay. AGTCommenter: Couple season 2X, so this would be in the same context, because again, they're technically still eligible as we sit here today, but these names did not make it, it's little spoiler, did not make it on the 2027 ballot, which means they will be uneligible for the next one when we sit here a year from now. I'll do, we gotta do the runner up, Mr. Kaz Haley. I have him as, I think, firm, probably should be on the first legacy ballot. I love Kaz Haley. not to the main ballot level, I think, I mean, he lost to Terry Fader. Like, not, no shame in losing to Terry Fader, Cody. So what do you think, do you agree? Do you have any other thoughts on Kaz Haley? Cody: Now, now. I agree. I think he's a perfect fit for the legacy ballot If he had won, I don't think anyone would been upset about it. I think he was a frontrunner most of the season AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Yeah, my concern was is he just wasn't going to get any votes on the main ballot. And so I never put him on there. I think he's a real ⁓ player on the legacy ballot. So I have him 2028 legacy ballot, I think. The only other one from season two would be the third place finisher, Butterscotch, our beatboxer. So I'll make a small case or kind of give the context. Cody: Mm-hmm. Okay. AGTCommenter: who's the other beatboxer? So I have her as a let's talk about it again later as of right now, but I think there's a real case for it. I want to hear what you think. Cody: Right. ⁓ I was looking at the list and I don't know if I would have done her. I probably would have done more Julian Irwin Okay Yeah AGTCommenter: I have her on the list, I just didn't have her on the list to talk about today. ⁓ Would you make the case for her over butterscotch as we sit here today? Cody: I would make the case for her over butterscotch, yes. AGTCommenter: Okay. Yeah, I mean there hasn't been a beatboxer that's made any play past like a quarterfinal in the history of the show besides butterscotch. we'll revisit butterscotch down the road. So you'd rather talk about what we should do with Julian Irwin. Make your case. Cody: Sure. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, good. Yes. I think she's the only one on AGT that got a chance to sing with Taylor Swift. AGTCommenter: You think that's legacy ballot worthy accomplishment? Because I don't. Cody: Yes, no No, I liked her as a singer. I thought she was really good obviously she is just a Kid she was a kid female singer at the time, but I I really enjoyed it. She was a fourth place Yeah, fourth place, ⁓ but I thought she I thought she was I thought she was brilliant. Yeah AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Yes My lean is to, let's talk about it again in a year. But I'm intrigued by the fact that you thought more highly of her than Butterscotch. That's interesting. Okay. Cody: Sure. I think I enjoyed her performance more than I enjoyed butterscotch's performance now. I understand from a Hall of Fame and we just talked about Yodeler being a very unique talent beatboxing obviously very unique talent. I get that. Yep Sure AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah, okay. We'll probably talk about both of them again in a year. Moving to season three. So season three is a little bit of an interesting one. So I want us to think about it kind of in the context of both Legacy and Main Ballot, because they do have one more year. So next year, ⁓ when the Ballot is finalized, ⁓ we have a little time on that. The only one I have to talk about that I think is worth... a conversation for potential main bout would be the runner up, Eli Mattson. Finished runner up to Nealey Boyd. ⁓ that was the typo I caught, Cody. The Nealey Boyd rewatchable that you posted, ⁓ you spelled it N-E-I-L. So if you do want to retroactively go back and edit that on the podcast feed, can. But that was the only typo I noticed. It's N-E-A-L. ⁓ Yeah. But anyway, just thought of that. Okay. So Eli Mattson. Cody: Okay Where did that, ⁓ that matter? Well, yeah. AGTCommenter: His final ballot that he can be on is 2028. when we have this conversation a year from now, if he's not on the 2028 ballot, he'll be out of time. My gut tells me just to save him for the legacy ballot. I just don't see the name popping off the page on the main ballot enough. If you have other thoughts, go for it, but that's what my gut says. Cody: Yeah, I'm not in favor of putting him on the ballot immediately. I'm okay with discussing him later on. In fact, if he wasn't on the legacy ballot, I'd be okay with that too. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Okay, so you think a total weight, not even a firm legacy. Okay. So my one thing I would add, the more I thought about it, I'm like, man, I'm gonna have a hard time leaving any runner-ups off of the legacy ballot, you know what I mean? Even like the Detroit Youth Choirs of the world. Like second place is ⁓ a high finish, but I'm fine with that. So we'll mark that as a weight for now. Cody: Correct. So you're not thinking like Paul Salos or Caitlin Mayer? Yeah. Okay. Queen Emily. Okay. AGTCommenter: from that year? Yeah, nothing but strings, we don't need to talk about yet, none of those. Season four. I have two from season four I want to talk about. Third place finisher, recycled percussion. Answer to a who wants to be an AGT millionaire question a couple weeks ago. ⁓ These now, all we're doing is talking main ballot. Should they end up on a main ballot before their time is up? season four has a couple more years of consideration before they'll be legacy ballot conversations. Do you think, Cody, that we should put recycle percussion on a main ballot or should we talk about it again a year? That's kind of the thought here. Yep. Cody: Yeah, I think we talked about it in a year and I do like recycled percussion. think it's a very unique act as well. But as we kind of as we talked about when we did the rewatchable, it kind of fell off throughout the season, didn't it? Yeah. And so they didn't really it got old real fast. Right. Would you consider like a grand mali? AGTCommenter: I would agree. Yeah, it got old fast. I did not have her on my list to talk about. ⁓ Cody: Okay. The first comedian to make the finals? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, fair. Okay. AGTCommenter: Yeah, I think that is like a six year, like six years down the road she'll pop up in the legacy conversation. I'm also comfortable with let's revisit in a year, my gut tells me they'll just end up being a legacy ballot act, but that's fine. Okay, we have to talk about the fourth place finisher. It is the Texas Tenors. They got two more years to get on the main ballot. Cody: Mm-hmm. OK. Yes. Yeah. AGTCommenter: My question for you, Cody, because I know you would love to see them on the main ballot. You love the Texas Tedders. Cody: Yes. Sure. AGTCommenter: Do you think they'll get any votes? Cody: Yeah, I don't think that they would. I think that a lot of people don't really remember the Texas Tenors as I talked about when I went and watched them. Their demographic seemed to age much older. I'm not sure a lot of the voters today will understand and how watching them in season four, they're fantastic. They're great in season four. They've done a lot with their career since. But I think the voters AGTCommenter: Yeah. Cody: see them on the ballot and don't may not appreciate what they did on AGT. Okay. Okay. AGTCommenter: I agree. I think we should talk about it again next year. See how the ballot falls this year. See what it looks like and then maybe put them on for their last possible ballot. Otherwise, I think there'll be a real player on the legacy ballot. I know you will. So, ⁓ but they need two to stay on for a second ballot on the main ballot and that might just not happen. That's okay. Okay. I like that. Season six. We've done season five. Cody: Yeah, I'll vote for him. I'll vote for him on either ballot. Yeah AGTCommenter: The top four finishers all have our main balladers. We've talked about that, so we don't need to, we can skip over season five for now. Season six, again, talking main ballot. Team Illuminate, third place finisher in season six. I have it as weight for now. I don't feel strongly that they should be on a main ballot at this juncture. What do you think? Cody: Okay. It was a breakthrough on AGT. It was. mean we had ⁓ Fighting gravity before this but it was all practical effects. This is all lighting with dancing What's it will go on later on and kind of improve on it Help me out here light balance will go on and prove on this but team Well, there you go team. I illuminate was the ground was there they they they walked so that that ⁓ AGTCommenter: For sure. ⁓ light balance hall of famer Trailblazer. Cody: Light Balance could run and then Light Balance Kids could all run. I would think that they should be on there. Like you say, Trailblazer, they set the framework for what these types of acts can do on AGT. I definitely think they should be on the ballot. AGTCommenter: For sure. Yeah, I've been, this was a very on the fence one for me. They have until... They have until the 2031 ballot to make it on the main ballot. I'm worried about their name, what we just call it, people see the name and they know it, name recognition for voters. My concern is they just wouldn't get the votes. Now again, a gift to get on the main ballot because you're guaranteed a legacy ballot spot. My gut right now says let's... Cody: Okay. Yeah, name recognition. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Let's talk about it in a year. I'm gonna give you, this can be your, I'll give you an overwrite. I'll give you a, this is your czar moment. Do you wanna wait or do you wanna use your, you get one czar the whole time. You don't know what's coming next. Do you wanna use it on them? Cody: Okay. Right, I well I want I was gonna say so this is the this is my golden buzzer moment I don't know what's coming up. I don't ⁓ AGTCommenter: Correct, you have a golden buzzer. Do you wanna use it on Team Illuminate? Now we're doing acts all the way through season 20 that we're gonna be talking about. there's, they're gonna, it's up to you. You wanna wait? Okay, all right, all right. Cody: want to wait. But I don't want to be Howie and wait until like the second to last one. Yeah. Put this on every year. I like the little, hey, yeah, yes, okay. Man, that's a good one though. It's a good one. AGTCommenter: It's a fun little wrinkle. ⁓ Yeah, the golden buzzer. all right. Now, they all get two audition golden buzzers these days. So should you get two golden buzzers? And they get three too with the live show. Okay. All right, so we'll talk about them again in a year. think the way this conversation went, I think it'll probably end up going towards that. okay, last one from era two, season six. Cody: No, no, we're going to do the one. Yeah, no, we're going to do the one we're doing it old school. Okay, man, that's tough. Season 6, okay? AGTCommenter: Silhouettes the runner-up, so I'll go first on this one because I kind of know where you're go Cody: Okay. Yeah. AGTCommenter: My gut tells me they should be on next year's ballot, the 2028 main ballot in 2028. Your thoughts. Cody: Okay. I would go with that. think that's fine. I was gonna pitch for them to be on the main ballot. I'm okay with them waiting a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would be okay with them reconsidering them for the 2028 ballot. They're a legendary act as well. Again, another act that set the stage for shadow dance groups. AGTCommenter: would... Sorry, go ahead. Okay. Yeah, the 2027 is done. So that's the conversation here, yep. Cody: I think they're one of the best Shadow Dance groups we've ever seen. I know we haven't seen a lot, but I really like I know you're not a big fan of them, but I think so. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yep. Yeah, I think it has to be the best, right? I mean, runner up, Shadow dance, best shadow dance, I think. I don't think there's, I mean, maybe, who's the guy that did the hand puppets? What was his name again? Shadowace, I love Shadowace. He was funny. Cody: Right. Yes, yeah. Yes, yeah, yeah, a little bit different, we've seen a couple others of these shadow dance groups, but I think they're the best. AGTCommenter: Yeah, I almost put them on. 2027, I ended up bailing and decided to wait a year, but I'm comfortable having them right now marked to be on next year's ballot. all right. All right. That's era one. Any other thoughts on era one? All right. Era two. I only have two in era two that I want to talk about today. I want to go to season nine to our third place finisher, which is Acro Army. Cody: Okay. AGTCommenter: Do want me to give my thoughts first on this one or do you want to roll? Cody: Sure, no go ahead. AGTCommenter: My gut tells me to put them on the 2029 ballot, would be not this coming year, not next year's, the following. What do you think about that? Cody: I mean I really like Acura Army. I don't want to load up the 2028 ballot. I'd be okay with that. If we put them on the 2028 I'd be fine too. If you wanted to wait a year. Yeah I'm not trying to be wishy washy but I agree. AGTCommenter: make your case one way or the other. That's wishy washy is perfectly fine. ⁓ I can I'll put on there. I'll put 2028 or 2029 Cody: Sure. Again, it would depend on what else we have. I just don't... AGTCommenter: At the end of the day, we both agree that they absolutely should be on the main ballot at some point. Okay, that's good enough for me. Cody: Yes, yes, yes. AGTCommenter: Season 10. Runner up. Drew Lynch. He beat Oz Perlman. I'll put that out there. Hall of Famer Oz Perlman, beat him. He beat Hall of Famer Piff the Magic Dragon. Cody: I don't know about that. Well, yeah, okay. AGTCommenter: think we should just give it some time. Wait, what do you think? I have a hard time putting them on and leaving them off at the same time. Cody: So yeah So so here's here's my thought we know what you we know what you and I think of him And it reflects in our scores Other than that, I don't know what other people think of him. I just don't know. No, I don't know I'd be interested to see what other people think of him. I don't I don't recall getting Jay's thoughts on Him or Ryan's thoughts. I'm not sure ⁓ AGTCommenter: Right. Yes. Sure. So it'd be nice to find out, kinda. Mm-hmm. Cody: I, I, he, yes, he's runner up. get it. And I know that there are obviously people liked him. I just don't know what the voters would think. I obviously won't vote for him. I'm guessing you won't vote for him. So, ⁓ but it could be one these things. It's like, maybe we've talked about this. Maybe we're missing something and AGTCommenter: Yeah, he has till 2035 to make it on the main ballot. That would be the last ballot. So I'm comfortable today saying, wait, let's revisit it down the road. Cody: Yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. If, if, if for some reason in the next seven years, eight years, that no, no, no, no, no, if he's some reason he doesn't end up on the main ballot, then yes, stick him on the legend, the legacy ballot. Yeah. Okay. AGTCommenter: We get some news, people love them. Yeah, for sure. It's gross. It's gross to think about him on my main ballot. That's my baby. But I have to be objective if I can. Cody: You know, hey, I you know, there's as There's athletes out there that a lot of people didn't care for that are obviously Hall of Famers a lot of people didn't like Tom Brady obviously a Hall of Famer so AGTCommenter: Yep. Sure. So is that the comparison you want to stick with is Drew Lynch and Tom Brayden. Drew Lynch is the Tom Brady of AGT. All right. Cody: No, that is not the case no Cuz cuz you look back at Tom Brady's career and it's like it was an amazing career Yes AGTCommenter: Right. This is the greatest of all time. It's not even a question. Yeah. ⁓ all right. I don't have any others from, from, ⁓ era two that I want to talk about today. I would say in the next couple of years, we'll talk about all that, ⁓ cause they're technically season seven. I don't think we need to do anything on that today. I would say Jimmy Rosell, sons of Sarah and dip will probably talk about at some point, David Garibaldi and the CMYKs. But today I just want to talk about those two. Okay. Two from era three. I want to talk about the bulk of the rest is going to be era four. Cody: Okay. Okay. AGTCommenter: slash era five we still have to figure that out what we want to do with that but but basically season ⁓ season fifteen and on at this point season twelve ⁓ season twelve fourth place finisher miss mandy harvey an iconic golden buzzer our our deaf singer which is one of a kind in and of itself fourth place on a really great season i mean you look at the Cody: Okay, yeah, I was gonna ask that, yeah. Okay. AGTCommenter: The three she finished behind are Darcy Lynn, Angelica Hale, and Light Balance, which two of them are in the Hall of Fame and Angelica Hale is on the ballot currently. Has till 2037 to make it onto the ballot. My gut says let's revisit it. I'm interested in your thoughts. No, you don't want to make a case for her to absolutely be on the main ballot. Okay. Cody: I'll okay with revisiting it. No. Yeah, I don't think I was… I get the act. Being a deaf singer, she's saying Barefoot, lot of that's really cool. The ukulele? Yes. It was never really my thing. AGTCommenter: Yeah, fascinating act. Sure, okay. We have not done a rewatchable on her, correct? I think that might end up being, we should do that and that'll give us some answers for this down the road. Because she should be a rewatchable, she has a really iconic performance. Cody: We have not, no. Yeah. Yes. Right. Fair. When is Season 12 Rewatch? AGTCommenter: 2031 that would also do some of it. She's got some time there 2031 of the two Okay, I'm happy with that. I think that's fair. I do like her a lot I've always been a little more partial to singers than most people but okay The only other one I want to talk about today is from season 14. It is the runner-up. It is Detroit Youth Choir This is very Drew Lynch Cody: Okay. Okay. Okay. ⁓ You AGTCommenter: Beat the unbeatable, who was one vote short of a unanimous induction to hall of fame. Beat. Ryan Neimiller, who is on the ballot currently, lost to Cody Lee, one vote short of unanimous hall of fame. I actually feel stronger about them than I do Drew Lynch and that I would never put them on the ballot. Cody: I'm good with that. AGTCommenter: You're saying Legacy. I think they stink. I really do. And I'm, okay, all right, I love it. Did the same song twice, but we would both agree that at some point should be on a Legacy ballot after the, their last main ballot eligibility is 2039. So you think they should be probably like on the 2040 Legacy ballot. Cody: Yeah, I'm good with that. Did the same song twice? Yes. Yeah, these kids will not even be aware of their aid time on ATT by the time this comes out. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Right. Okay. Let me ask you this. I have a couple names in here that I thought about talking about, but I didn't mark to, but if you feel like we should, I'll just throw them at you. Keterer, Hadwin, Voices of Service from season 14. Cody: I Voices of Service should, yes. AGTCommenter: You want to talk about them right now? And you think that they should be on a main ballot? Make your case. Here at the committee board meeting. Cody: Yes. Well, they're... Sure, sure. ⁓ former service... people? Yes. Yes. ⁓ the into the stairwell, yes. Yes. ⁓ who was the guy that, ⁓ the singer that came out wearing his fatigues but he wasn't in the arm anymore, so it's like, so... ⁓ no, not just that. I mean, they're great. AGTCommenter: Respect the troops. So we did this is a respect the troops thing. So you want the 82nd Airborne choir on there too? In the stairwell, yeah Yeah, yeah, something, yeah, yep. Cody: They seem like great people, they're great singers, it a great act. Obviously the service adds a little bit to it as well. ⁓ They were one of the best, season 14, they were one of the best acts that season. AGTCommenter: I would agree. Mm-hmm. Fifth place. Cody: Yeah, I mean, I think that even should have been higher. AGTCommenter: So here's my map. 20th on my all-time leaderboard, which is ahead of Cody Lee. So I think you're absolutely correct that from a talent standpoint that they are, there's 16, there's 15 acts in the Hall of Fame currently. I have them 20th all time. So they're in that, they're definitely in that ballpark in my opinion. Cody: Okay. They should have been one spot higher. AGTCommenter: on their season you're saying? Yeah, I think you can make an argument that they should be ahead of even Niemiller. You know what mean? Like I think, but that top, like if you, if you pulled DYC out, that top four is remarkable. Cody Lee, Ryan Niemiller, VM Beatable in them is really great. For sure. Cody: Yes. Well, okay. Right. Correct. It- It competes with Season 11 as one of the greatest... Yeah. AGTCommenter: Let's do this. I'm happy that you feel firmly about it because then I feel more comfortable putting them on the main ballot. Let's try and settle on a when. Is it really quick? Should I just mark as like 20, 30 plus? Are you like, in the next two years, similar to what we said for Acro Army? ⁓ Cody: Okay. think by 2030 they should be on it. AGTCommenter: Okay, I'm gonna put 20, 30 down. Alright. That would be, let's do 2029. Let's do that. Cody: They should be on the ballot by the 2030 ballot. AGTCommenter: hadwin ketterer happy waiting on that those conversations do you want to do that now or not do you ever see yourself vouching for either of those maybe legacy ballot Cody: Yes. No. ⁓ Not not get unless we're voting on how good of a person he is But the charges were dropped right so AGTCommenter: Yeah, well. That is true, that is true. Era four. I chunked it into two. So just want to talk about seasons 15 and 16 for this first section. I got four names in here that I want to touch on. We're making pretty good time on this. Third place finisher in season 15 is Christina Rae. Now I'll say this before we do anything more on season 15. We are rewatching them next spring. The full season. So the answer might just be let's just let it play out one more year. Not Christina Wells. Cody: Not Christina Wells. Okay. AGTCommenter: So here's my thought to you, Cody. Unless you feel firm that she should be on the 2028 ballot, so the next one, which would be made before around the time we're doing that rewatch, I think we can just put it and say, let's do the season 15 rewatch, see what we feel about, talk about it like we're doing today in a year. Okay, so we're gonna wait for rewatch. All right, I think that's fair. All right. Cody: good with that. Yes. Yep. You get Danelia, Bellows Sisters, Broken Roots. AGTCommenter: The other, yeah, the only other one I want to talk about is the runner up, Broken Roots. My gut says let's just put wait for rewatch as well and then see what we think. I don't remember anything from some of these acts. Okay, so we'll have a real clear picture 12 months from now. Cody: Sure. Yes. Yeah. No, I don't either. Yeah, I would only vote for broken roots because they were on my team. AGTCommenter: Right. Again, it's the runner-up thing, though. It's like, I feel the same way about leaving winners out of the Hall of Fame as I do about leaving runners up off the main ballot. Like, I get it, the people speak, but at the same time, it feels a little bit wrong. alright. Season 16, I got two. Do you wanna do, yeah, let's do this. Just the finalist, didn't make the top five. World Taekwondo, I think is an incredible act. I have them. 12th on my all-time leaderboard. Boards broken per minute is the, what did I call it, the BBPM was through the roof. Cody: Yeah. AGTCommenter: that couldn't make the top five on a pretty middle of the road season. Where do I have that season? I have that season on the aggregate ranked. 11th. So just short of top half seasons at this point. At the same time, I'm like, they're just they're remarkable. What do you think? Make your case. Cody: So, I get the intrigue in this act and yes, they're a little bit exciting to watch, but I think that they're… I think you're rating them higher than they really are. Yeah. And that's all. I don't know if I feel that they're Hall of Fame worthy. They're a fun group to watch. It didn't really do anything for me that was like, ⁓ my god, that's like the best thing I've ever seen. AGTCommenter: Sure. Mm-hmm. Fair enough. I think we'll just wait. We'll talk about this. Their clock just started, so they got 15 years to make it on the May Bound. The only other one I want to talk about then from that season is third place finisher Josh Ballew. Comedian, cerebral palsy. Do you feel strongly that in the next handful of years he should be on the main ballot? Okay, so you're comfortable waiting too. right. Season 17 through 20, so none of these are currently eligible. Season 17 will be eligible for 2028. Cody: I don't feel strongly. I'm fine with with waiting. AGTCommenter: I'll preface this with this. All the winners go on in their first year. It's an unofficial written rule. So we don't need to talk about the winners. The Mayas will be on next year's ballot, the following year, Adrian Hurricane will be on. So the winners are set in stone. We don't have to talk about that. Oops. Third place, Season 17, our friend's chapel heart. I don't think they should be on a main ballot ever. I know you feel little differently about Chapel Heart. Cody, what do you think? Cody: Third place? AGTCommenter: Third place. Cody: This size enlists in fifth place. AGTCommenter: fifth place. No. On what? Cody: on the wiki, season 17. It's Drake Milligan third place, is that wrong? Is the wiki wrong? AGTCommenter: ⁓ boy. Hold on. Hold on. You know that I absolutely could be wrong. Cody: Hahaha! Winner, Mayas, Kristi Sellers, second place, Drake Milligan, third place, Metaphysic, fourth place, Chapelheart, fifth place. AGTCommenter: I Milligan was just a finalist. on. Oops. Why do I have Chapel Heart on multiple places as third place? Cody: I mean, if the wiki's wrong, the wiki's wrong, but that's the Bible. mean, that's what we... AGTCommenter: I know. I think I'm right. Can you... We have to check the tape, right? We don't have a choice. Do you want to pause? Do you have Season 17 readily at your disposal to pull up the results from finale night? Because this matters massively to this conversation. Because if they were bottom five, then we don't even need to talk about it. I'm really confident that they finished third. Cody: Can I find a video? You want me find a video? Okay. I can, I think so. I think so. AGTCommenter: My records are pretty ironclad. I'm com- I- I- I'm perfectly fine getting egg on my face on this. Cause at some point I'm- I'm definitely going to make a mistake with the amount of record keeping I'm doing by myself with no- with no help. Cody: Okay, hold on, hold on. Yeah, so. Pause. Pause. OK. AGTCommenter: Pause. Where did the wiki have them? Cody: Wiki had Drake Milligan at third place, Chapel Heart at fifth place. Do you have the Wiki in front of you? Okay. AGTCommenter: No, I didn't pull it up. think they might be right. Cody: Here we go. AGTCommenter: But I was wrong anyways because I Drake Milligan as just a finalist. Cody: ⁓ look at you! AGTCommenter: So Milligan is third. So I had Metaphysic fifth for some reason. ⁓ Cody: Yes. And all of your records, well, you got a lot of updating to do. AGTCommenter: I know I got some updating I gotta do. I can't imagine it's gonna change a ton. then I think we probably have to talk about Milligan then, huh? Cody: We can talk about methicone, that's fine. AGTCommenter: ⁓ Again, I'm not, not anticipating a change. ⁓ But there definitely could be some, ⁓ at the end of the day, Chapel Heart, think have, let me just ⁓ take a quick ⁓ Cody: And we can still talk, check a heart, I'm good with that. Yeah. AGTCommenter: We will, we will. ⁓ I have them... Alright, I got it. That will help because I have two other fifth places lower than them. Cody: Is this your Mandela effect? AGTCommenter: Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, I don't know what happened there. I was not overly engaged in season 17. So I wonder if I sorted something on the sheet after the episode aired but didn't have it filtered where it kept the orders of things correct or what. But shout out the Wiki. I was wrong. I'm happy to be wrong. Okay, Drake Milligan. Yes, Drake Milligan, third place, season 17. Cody: Hahaha! We want to get the facts right. I don't think he should ever be on the ballot. AGTCommenter: No main ballot consideration at all. Legacy ballot consideration? I'll put a question. We might never get there. Okay. Chapel Heart, fifth place. I don't see a place for them on any ballot, period. We love them. Friends of the pod. Cody: Maybe. We can talk about it in a decade. Okay. Okay, okay. Yes. Yes. AGTCommenter: your thoughts. Cody: I they're better than where they finished. If I had my Druthers, I would have flipped them and Drake Milligan. They should have been higher than 5th place. ⁓ I would consider them for a regular ballot, but I can understand if maybe we don't see the votes out there. AGTCommenter: Okay. Yeah, guess my question would be do you see fifth place season 17 getting votes? Cody: ⁓ they will get at least one vote ⁓ will they get other votes it that's the that's where i'm not seeing i don't know if they will get other votes AGTCommenter: Yeah, we'll put weight. We'll talk about it again later. Yep. Cody: We got time, we got time, but I'm just throwing out there. I don't know if there'll be other votes out there. AGTCommenter: Yeah, with this group here, I basically want us to decide between three things. Never, main ballot, wait and talk about later, and then the third one would be if you feel like in the first two years of their eligibility. Those are the three answers basically. Next then, moving to season 18. And I'm positive, kind of, that these place finishes are correct. Cody: Yes. Yeah. I think, yeah. Wait. Wait. Yeah. Hehehehehe AGTCommenter: fifth place in season 18 was the Ramadhani brothers. We love the Ramadhani brothers. They won fantasy league. Is that correct? I think they should be on in their first year eligibility, which would be in two years. They're one of the greatest acts we've ever seen. The fifth place was a tragedy. Okay. So we're agreement the 20, uh, 20, 29 ballot. They should be absolutely on. Okay. All right. Great. We can, we can get through that one quick. Cody: That sounds right. Yes. They did. They did. Yes. I agree. think- They are. Yes, it was. Yes. Done. Yes. And I see the votes. There's votes. AGTCommenter: There's votes, there's some votes out there. ⁓ VM, I mean VM Beatable got 15 out of 16, I think this act could in a couple of ballots get on. oops. ⁓ Where'd that go? All right, staying in season 18, I got a couple more. ⁓ Who was runner up season 18 again? ⁓ the Gooseman. Cody: I'm out of the gooseman. AGTCommenter: ⁓ yeah, so I got three more then, sorry. I wanted to go. Cody: Okay, Ananda Guzman. ⁓ AGTCommenter: You want to do her right now? I would agree. I think it's probably a legacy ballot, but I'm comfortable just waiting on that and talking about it down the road. Okay, I want to do the other third and fourth place. So Putri Arani was fourth place. Cody: Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. AGTCommenter: I definitely think it's a wait. So not first couple years of eligibility for sure. You could convince me it's just legacy probably. What do you think? Cody: No, agree. Agree. I think it's definitely a legacy thing. I'm willing to wait as well. We may not fully appreciate Putriariani right now. AGTCommenter: and then murmur it. Murmuration was third place. What do you think? Cody: I like memorization. AGTCommenter: So would you go wait? Okay. Cody: I would do wait. Yeah. Actually, no, memorization, I was not a fan of memorization. I take that back. But I would still wait. I'd still put it as a wait. Yes, yeah. AGTCommenter: So you would do... Okay, we'll do that. Season 19, and I feel like we should consult Ryan on this one. Cody: Okay. AGTCommenter: Roni and Rhythm, Roni and Rhythm? was it? Was it Roni? Roni, Roni and Rhythm? Cody: R-r-r-rony-r-r-rony in rhythm. Yes. AGTCommenter: Runner up in season 19. I was not a big fan. Ryan thinks they're the bee's knees. My gut says just wait. Cody: No. I would agree. AGTCommenter: I don't think that they're never be on the main bow but I just don't necessarily see it. Okay, Richard Goodall will be in obviously from. Cody: It's possible in five years we don't remember them. AGTCommenter: I agree. ⁓ I don't have any of the other top five that season to talk about today. Sky Elements, Solange, Learn More, I think we can just come in a handful years. So that's all I had from season 19. Last two acts I want to talk about and then I do want to talk a couple judges and hosts to wrap up here. Chris Turner was the runner up last year. Would you consider him, would you say we should be putting him on the ballot in the first two years of his eligibility or not? Cody: Yes, I think we should. Yes. AGTCommenter: I think so too. ⁓ Do you want to take a firm stance on one or the other, first or second, or do you just want to say one of those two? I'm happy with that. love Chris Turner. ⁓ So he will be in... Cody: It's hard for me to envision that these acts we just saw could be first about Hall of Famers. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Yeah, he's great. ⁓ I love him. Obviously, Jessica Sanchez will be on there when their ballot year comes up, which would be the 2031 ballot. The only other one from season 20 that I think we should talk about right now would be the third place finisher, which was Jordan Blue. My gut says wait. Okay. All right. That one's pretty easy too. ⁓ Don't need to, I don't think we need to talk about Mama Duke today. ⁓ No, Lightwire. Cody: I agree. think it's a wait. Fifth place? Finish your mom a dick? Okay, sorry I got that wrong. AGTCommenter: No, no. Any other names that are even off just off the top of your head? I always see team recycled and get confused between and I'm like, wait, did I copy recycled percussion? Not recycled percussion. Any top of mind that you could just, I can't imagine there's any in your head right now. Okay. All right. Let's wrap this up. I have four hosts and judges. I just want to touch on quickly. Heidi Klum. Cody: Right. Alright. No. AGTCommenter: She's done 11 years. Which is kind of amazing. thought one of my lights like burnt out. It feels like it's darker all of a sudden. I'm seeing I'm losing my mind code. Am I wrong? Cody: No, your lighting is not changing. AGTCommenter: Maybe there's clouds. Oh, that's what it was. The sun got covered up. We're going off the rails. She did 11 seasons. For all we know, she might come back. She loves doing that. 8 through 13, 15 through 19. What I want to decide today is should she be on a main ballot at some point? Or I think she's absolutely, positively should be on a legacy ballot. There's no questions. She right now, Cody: I thought maybe you saw like a fly or a bug or something. I like, what's going on? Yes. AGTCommenter: after season 21 will air. Before season 21 is tied for second most seasons with Simon. Simon will pass her this year. Make your case one way or the other. Do think she should be on the main ballot or not? Cody: Do athletes typically get on Hall of Fame ballots for the longevity and not certainly because of their statistics or their career? AGTCommenter: Just think of them as coaches and execs now. We're off the players now, in a little bit different spot. Cody: ⁓ fair, you're right. So a coach could stick around and never get a championship. I'm good with legacy ballot, I'm also good with waiting and seeing AGTCommenter: Maybe. Cody: I'm good with waiting and seeing. Yeah. Okay. AGTCommenter: That's fair. So we'll wait. We'll wait. There's no limit on when, how for these, for these. So in 40 years, we could put them on the main ballot. All right. So we'll wait. Miss Melanie Brown. Mel B. This will be her eighth year coming up in season 21. I would argue a better judge than Heidi may catch her longevity wise if she keeps rolling here. I think it's in the same boat on Cody: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: She should be on some ballot at some point. She's too iconic to the history of show, especially if she keeps going for more more seasons. What do you think about Mel? Okay, similar as they've always kind of been ⁓ like twins to me. They kind of fly together. last two I want to talk about. Sharon Osborne. Seasons one through seven, did seven seasons. Again, think should be on some type of ballot at some point. I don't. Cody: I'm okay with waiting a little bit. Yep. Yep. Yes. Yeah. Mm-hmm. AGTCommenter: I'm not sure if she belongs on a main ballot. Your thoughts? Cody: I would agree. AGTCommenter: Do you want to wait or just say firm, put her on a legacy at some point? Got it. We love Sharon. There's a ton of things we love about Sharon. David Hasselhoff, last one I want to talk about. Comes from season one, he did four years. I have a hard time putting him on any ballot. The main? Vetoed. ⁓ you didn't, you never used your golden buzzer, Cody. No, no, no. Cody: Legacy. Yes. I want to put him on the ballot. Yeah. Golden buzzer, hitting it. Hasselhoff. AGTCommenter: You can I'm gonna give you a retroactive golden buzzer on some of these acts but Four years is not enough. I don't think he burned bright enough in those four seasons to be you could I'll compromise and say legacy Cody: Okay. Okay. Yeah. AGTCommenter: You can't press golden buzzer for a judge. Only axe. That's obviously. Do you want to go back? Is there any you want to retroactively press? Cody: Who'd we talk, who were the ones that we were really excited about? Silhouettes, right? AGTCommenter: Yeah, which we put them in. here's a couple that I think you, so Texas Tenors you put weight on. The one you really kicked around was Team Illuminate. You almost used it and then we decided to weight. So you wanna push the golden buzzer. I'm gonna mark down for 2029. So not next year but the following year. Fair enough. Congrats to Team Illuminate. Golden buzzer, okay. Cody: Yeah, okay. Yes. Yes, that's the one. That's the one. That's the one. Put them... Yes. Yes, fair. Fair. Done. Remind me to do my soapbox for them. AGTCommenter: Say that again. Cody: Remind me at that time to do my soapbox for them. Like I did for... Was it Poppycock? No, it was for O's. Like I did for O's. Yeah. AGTCommenter: Got it. Ohs. Yeah. I have them 108 on my all-time leaderboard. They're not... They're not on your leaderboard. We haven't done their rewatchable. Maybe we should do that next offseason. Okay. Alright. That's what I got for this, A great first meeting of the Hall of Fame Nominating Committee. Any final closing thoughts on this? Did you like this? Was this a good talk it out session? Cody: Well, we got to pencil that in. Yeah. OK. Okay. Okay? I like this. Yes. Yes. Yes. AGTCommenter: All right, one and off season. Cody, congrats to us. I appreciate you coming along for the 35 episode journey through history and all of that stuff. ⁓ Looking forward to season 21. Cody, your parting thoughts on year 10 of AGT TimePod. Cody: Yeah, it was a good season. There was a lot of times I was really questioning why I was doing this. ⁓ But I enjoyed it. I thought season 20 was great. ⁓ I liked doing the right analytics. I liked the results reactions. We put together a couple season rewatches. The personals, I thought were real good. There were times you got frustrated with me during those. AGTCommenter: Mm-hmm. Cody: But I thought we had a lot of fun and I thought we put out some good stuff and I hope the listeners enjoyed ⁓ that this season. so looking forward to AGT's season 21, our 11th season of podcasting. And so I'm excited to jump on here with Jay and talk season 21. AGTCommenter: Yes. I love it. Shout out year 10, best year yet. We'll see what year 11 has in store for AGT time. If you don't have anything else, what was your favorite moment of the 12 months here? If you had to pick one thing. I know mine. Hall of Fame. Cody: I yeah, I think just in general, yeah, I know you love the Hall of Fame. I think I really like doing the results in Ryan Analytics, the result reactions. Not just specific one, just not one specific, but I liked having that in there. It was just a different perspective on watching the show. Particularly the Ryan Analytics, breaking it down and like looking at the stats and the social media numbers. So Ryan did a great job and I hope we can continue doing that for season 21. AGTCommenter: Sure. In-season stuff this year. Sure. You did, last thing I'll say, if you recall, you did get teary-eyed during the Hall of Fame induction ceremony during Howie's, so that was maybe a top moment too. But, all right, let's sign it off. Next time you hear from Cody, it'll be, ⁓ we'll have just watched Auditions 1. The next time you hear from me, I don't know. Probably three, four, five, six episodes into the season, maybe even more, so. Something, yeah, people, yeah. Cody: I did. That is good. Well, yeah, we'll get your mid-audition thoughts and then your mid-season thoughts, yeah. AGTCommenter: But it might be over a month until you hear from me again. So I do appreciate everybody that follows along in some capacity throughout the off season. I know it's a different change of pace from the in season, but this was a lot of fun. Cody: I'm interested when we get to the judges callbacks and we have you on to see if it is what we think. Yeah, if it is what we thought it was. yeah, there you go. There you go. You can find us on our socials at AGT TimePod. You can email us agttimepod at gmail.com. can find commoner out there at AGT commoner. And of course, go check out our new website, agttimepod.com. It's got all our pods. It's got the hall of fame stuff on there. AGTCommenter: That's probably when I should come on. Yeah. All right. I'm taking, I'm going, I'm kicking my feet up. I'm on vacation, Cody. Cody: comment or you might be doing some blogging we'll see we don't know yeah we'll see go check it out if it that's right so just come find us come follow us we'll be live tweeting during season 21 we'd love to interact we want to talk AGT with you so just just come find us everyone have a great night AGTCommenter: We'll see. Who knows? I fly by the seat of my pants.