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Avril Lavigne · Deprogrammed Music Podcast

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It's Deprogram, the podcast where we try to get you into a
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band. That's right.
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We've done all the work for you. All you have to do is press
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play. My name is Justin and you can
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call me band and or artist curious because I am curious
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about the bands that my friends like and I bring them onto the
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show. We talked about said band and in
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doing so we will come up with a top 10 starter kit for that
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artist. And today, let's not make this
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too complicated. Hey, Oh.
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Hey, hey. OK, OK.
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The group that we have here is a very interesting group for the
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artist. We're talking about Avril
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Lavigne today. And first of all, it's four
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dudes. So I mean.
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Oh yeah, we are. Sausage fest, man.
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Not to get weird up in here. I know.
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Not that not that dudes can't like Avril Lavigne, but
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obviously 4 dudes do like Avril Lavigne.
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So Ryan, you put Avril on the board a little while ago.
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Talk to me about. What?
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Are you sure I didn't? Well, I mean, I had his name
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listed first, so. Oh.
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OK. All right.
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OK. All right, OK.
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Maybe. It was.
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Hey man, before you interrupt, maybe make the drive through the
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tunnel next time, Yeah? Hey, you got me.
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You got me. You got me.
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I'll, I'll, I'll concede. I love you buddy.
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So talk to me about Avril Lavigne, Ryan.
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So I started listening to her, I guess a year or so after she
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came out. And it was just like, at that
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point I was not a pop punk person or anything like Top 40
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stuff. If it wasn't loud and heavy and
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guitar driven, I was probably just going to laugh at you.
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And one day we're decided I was at my buddy's house and we
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needed a, a, a beer run. So I ran to the the Paki, as
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they are called up north. And that happened to be what was
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on in his car and listened to a song and it really, it kind of
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hooked and I didn't know who it was at 1st.
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And then I went in back and like played a few more because it was
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a old Burn CD so it could be anything at that point.
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I went back and asked him. He's like, yeah, that's who it
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is. I was like, you got to be
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kidding me. Like that song was actually
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really catchy and dove into the first album, liked it a lot.
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Second album, loved it and been a fan sense.
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Interesting. SO the fact that you thought you
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put her up there, Joe, means that you either.
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I mean, I guess it's possible we were just talking before we went
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on that this show is 10 years old now.
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It's possible that in the transfer over from Facebook over
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to the Google Doc, maybe you had signed up and it just didn't
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make it. But it means that you insist on
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being on the Avril Lavigne episodes.
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So talk to me about it. Absolutely I want to be on the
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and you know what, honestly, again, I'll concede Ryan Ryan's
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the number one. It's cool.
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I'll take the L it's cool. But yeah, I had to be here to
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talk about Afro because let me let me take you back a little
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bit. It's it's the summer of 2002 and
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and Joe is is a 14 going on a 15 year old teenage boy.
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So the hormones are running crazy.
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Let's. Go, let's go.
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Let's go, Yeah, let, let go, Let go, actually.
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Awkward, yeah. And there is, there is this man,
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this this amazing vocalist and just, I mean, hey, I'm a
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teenager all the time. I'm like, wow, who is this hot
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chick? She at 14 going on at 15.
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I was really trying to for Avril to be my punk rock Princess and
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I was trying to be her garage band king, you know what I mean?
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Or something corporate like that.
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Anybody get that? Anyway, I'm with you anyway.
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I was just trying to listen to you talk about your awkward
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teenage boners. We'll save that for after that.
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We'll save that for after the fact on Patreon for anybody that
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wants to sign up for that. Justin, there's your plug
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anyway. So, but immediately when when I
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heard Avril, I immediately thought this version, her
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version of pop punk is just the shit that I love.
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I absolutely love that version of pop punk.
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And then not only that, she hits US with ballads too.
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So I'm like, I'm I'm in heaven. She can she can sing her ass
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off. She's got this amazing version
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of of pop punk that I love. So I've I've been in, I've been
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in ever since. I mean, I guess I did.
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I probably missed I probably missed the self-titled head
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above water era. Like I didn't listen.
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I wasn't listening directly to her when those first came out,
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but I caught them shortly after they released type of a thing.
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So I've I've been in since summer of O2.
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I've only seen her been been able to see her live once, but
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my God, just topped here and I'm sure we'll get into all that.
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But anyway, that's why I had to be here to talk about Avril
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today, so everybody else can find out this amazing vocalist
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and her version of pop punk as well.
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That's one more time than I've been able to see her for the
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record. But so again, like, this is
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quite the collection of characters we have here for
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this, for this episode. You know, Brian usually does
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like the new metal episodes with Brian.
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Joe usually does like the punk. This one is out of left field.
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Corey. I don't know.
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Yeah, So to 2nd Joe's story, I mean the genesis, if I'm being
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honest, is hot, right? You know, like in a, I mean, for
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real. So in a world of like Brittany
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and Christina, here she comes and I'm like, oh, I like that,
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you know what I mean? And then you you listen to the
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music and it's like, OK, that's way more what I like than this
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other bullshit, you know what I mean?
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So from there I was the same way.
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A lot of her catalog I discovered through doing this
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episode, Like I had heard a lot of the stuff, but obviously let
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go when that came out was everywhere.
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And you know, to the points that they've made.
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It's I mean, she rocks, you know, so it's not it initially
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the physical thing is what got, I think 13 year old me there.
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I think I'm a year or two younger than Joe.
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But after that it's like you discover what else is there too.
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You know, we're not that shallow as teenage.
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She's got substance. Right, exactly.
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There you go. There you go.
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In class, Well, OK, so I'm a a hair older than y'all.
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So when she's introduced to the scene, introduced to the to the
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mainstream, I'm like, no, do not want out.
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Like I hell out of here. I don't want this.
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Yeah, but that's classic Justin though.
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At this time, for sure, that is So what I would do.
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I had a roommate who, when the second record come came out, he
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was all over her. And, you know, we would make fun
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of him because, you know, you just think she's hot.
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And he was like, yeah, but it's really good.
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And in hindsight, I'm willing to concede I was just being, you
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know, stuck up, you know, 20 year old asshole.
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Yeah. Resistant.
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Yeah. Being resistant because just for
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the sake of being resistant. As you do.
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Especially me and especially. Me.
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But you know, like coming back to this was it's interesting
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because my wife said that anytime she hears a net like
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they keep trying to feed her Avril Lavigne and and she's
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like, I don't get it. Like it's there's nothing
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special there. And I get what she's saying in
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that. And you you said she's a pop
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punk Princess. I think if I'm being brutally
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honest here, that was the mistake that they made as like,
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I'm glad it found the people that wanted that.
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But categorizing her as that is what turned me away.
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And I, I truthfully don't. I think she lives in this this
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place going through the this, she lives in this place that's
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like delightfully like almost emo.
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It it lives like between emo and new metal.
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Like it's it's shocking when when you push play on Avril
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Lavigne and go, OK, it isn't this pop punk thing.
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Although in her most recent effort, like she that the new 1
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is almost all that, which I don't know, like maybe if she'd
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leaned heavier into that, I could have gotten on board.
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But you get introduced with Skater Boy and yeah, you know,
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anyway, like we'll we'll come around to that on when we start
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talking about like the songs. But yeah, man, like this is
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she's a Canadian royalty probably.
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Like we should probably point that out.
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Oh, 100% a hundred. Percent, absolutely.
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Like I imagine like they hold her to high regard.
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And to that point, like, kind of like what I was saying, it's
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like she's she's a popular version of Alanis Morissette,
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like. That's fair, yeah.
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Right. Like Alanis Morissette lived in,
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like she was adjacent to grunge the same way Avril is kind of
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adjacent to, you know, pop punk emo type stuff.
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So like, I think that was like the apples to apples.
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And I needed this to tell me that to be able to back off of
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my fucking cat, to back off off of my, you know, my
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stubbornness, my, my, you know, I'm holding my nose up on on
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this artist. That said, we did cover
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everything, Ryan this it's like 93 songs.
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I mean, it's it's a lot. But do you find when you're
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plucking out 20, is there like something you're leaning towards
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to bring to the table? Is it was this difficult?
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Did we lose Ryan? Did we lose everybody?
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I'm here, OK? Can you hear me?
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Yeah, I'm here. My daughter has a play date and
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their mom came to pick up, so I had to jump off for a second,
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but I just forgot to unmute. All right, let me so.
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Hit a marker here real quick so I can find it when I go to the
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edit. Leave it.
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Keep it live. Leave.
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It live, you keep that live you keep your cat screwing up the
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beginning live We'll we'll call it good.
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Oh, the cat's got to stay for sure.
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The cat. Will for sure stay.
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So yeah. So yeah, so was it hard?
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Now? I don't think it was hard.
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Whenever I'm kind of like make my list, there's always like,
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OK, these are the songs I know I want on there.
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And then I just go back through like album by album and I play
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just a little bit of each song and I'm like, that's the one
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that's got to be on there. I know that one.
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I know that one, that one we could skip type thing.
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So there was a few that I think I put on as like, I think I went
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back and took a few off and changed it.
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But getting the 20 wasn't bad. It's just a mix of of everything
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because there's like all her albums are a big mix of of
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everything. You know?
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That's true. So Joe was this one, you know,
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I, I don't know what your, your gameplay is lately because you
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haven't gotten to do a lot. So I don't know if you you
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approach this differently than you would any other band.
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Well, this one, I actually have a lot of gameplay in this one.
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Truly, I felt, I felt going into this one that especially for
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somebody like Avril that I needed to bring to the table and
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bring like my list to the table is not aiming to find matches.
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I really, really thought about what is the best brand of Avril
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to bring to a new listener because like you said, Justin,
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you know, if, and I've said it, pop punk Princess, right?
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So that turned you off all those years ago, right, that that
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wasn't for you. And like you mentioned too, she,
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you know, when you listen to it now, like you're kind of hearing
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a little bit of emo, a little bit of new metal, like that type
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of, you know, thing kind of vibe, right, Not necessarily
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exactly that, but that kind of vibe.
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And she really does in every single album have a little bit
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of a change her her style changes of how she is
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interpreting, if you will, pop punk or pop rock alternative.
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And again, I say the ballads again, like again, this girl can
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sing. So she brings ballads the the
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drama in all the best ways she brings to her songs and live
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performance. So going into this, like I
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wouldn't necessarily say it was it was difficult.
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No, but I really again spent a lot more time than heck, even I
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did on my favorite bands that we've done blink and the story
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so far. Like those were just quick.
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Put it on the put it on the list.
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This one I took some time to really like think about OK, this
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record, you know, this this kind of sounds like this.
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This sounds like that. What is the best one to pluck
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out to bring to the table of pop punk Princess?
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So I have that on there. What which ballad do I want to
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bring from this album? Which ballad?
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So that's the spoiler. I I did a lot of game play on
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this. So I'm I'm excited to have this
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conversation, but I don't know. It's going to go.
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It's it's going to be interesting because this is the
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one, this is probably the one time there might have been one
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other band that that I did this kind of play with, maybe angels
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and Arabs perhaps. But anyway, yeah, there's a lot
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of gameplay to this for me, because I really wanted to have
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a diverse, a diverse list of what Avril can do.
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And probably not ones that most people would think, I'll say
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that. OK.
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I'm smelling what you're stepping in.
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Hey, Corey, Like you're lately the last couple times you've
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been on, it's pretty meticulous the way you're approaching it or
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or is it just making the time either way?
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It's, well, it, I mean, a little bit of both, a little bit of
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both, you know, for, for Avril though, I came away from my
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first pass probably with more songs than definitely more than
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I expected, but possibly more than any other episode I've
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done. There was a lot there because, I
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mean, I was unfamiliar with a pocket of her shit.
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So, you know, I, I came away with way more than I expected.
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And there's seven albums here too.
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So it's like, you know, it's kind of heavy and which is a
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good thing because then here comes a strategy of, OK, well,
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do you want to, how do you know album representation, things
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like that? You want all the different types
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of songs represented, obviously. So it, it was hard for me.
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It was hard for me because I, I wasn't familiar with a pocket of
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it. So it it became arduous at the
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end to get down to the 20. Yeah, I I think that was kind of
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basically my experience. I'll say this, I did, I, I did
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bring something from everything for sure.
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I, I found something on every album that that I feel like
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works for for this. To me, the 1st 2 are head and
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shoulders above the rest, like like really good records.
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Surprisingly, her most recent effort I loved like, I I mean,
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again, it's because if you go into this assuming pop punk
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Princess and you don't get what you think is gonna happen, but
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then suddenly in whatever year that was 2022 I think maybe.
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I think so, yeah. Yep.
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If if you get that record, love sucks, I think is what it's
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called. Yep.
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If you get that and you're like, Oh well, fucking cool, where was
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this? Right, right, dude.
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You know, but I mean, again, obviously me saying any of that
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shouldn't to be anybody. It's not me taking away from
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her. It's just this is what was fed
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to me. And then I don't get that.
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So but like I found it really hard to cut from that last
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record, but I also because I didn't want to do the thing that
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turned me off. So it's like I liked most of
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that record. I think on my first pass, I had
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most of love sucks, but I was like, if I give, if I bring 5
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love songs to the table and they all kind of get in, I'm doing
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the thing that turned me off. So why would I do that?
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So I, I, I had to take a really fine tooth comb.
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I feel like there's like stuff. There was plenty of songs that I
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liked a lot in the middle stuff, but I was like, the The thing
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is, it feels like there's again, those first two albums were just
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so strong that I was like, I'm just going to bring these
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because these really tell the story that I want to tell and
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then make sure I have representation from everything
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else. So that that said, like, I don't
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want to say it was hard, but it it was more thought out than you
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would expect going into. Apple to be right.
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Right. So that's fair.
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That's that's all fair. Absolutely.
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So I mean, based on that, again, we've, we've all kind of talked
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about it's 7 records, it's 93 songs.
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There's four of us. Ryan, like based on everything
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we're saying, this seems like it could be a, a slugfest.
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How many do you think we're going to get through unanimously
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for the final say? I'm going to say 4.
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OK. That's what I was going to go
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with, Joe. OK.
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Everybody's kind of in the same headspace then.
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All right. So 4's off the board, Joe.
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What do you think? Yeah, I mean, I just think
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pretty much everything that you said, Justin, is kind of how I
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feel about it too. About actually, you know what, I
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take it back. I don't know what?
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I don't even remember what you said.
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Oh my gosh. What am I smoking?
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Nothing apparently that's that's the thought that I had about
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album representation because I do feel like like something from
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each record needs to be on this list because again, I feel like
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she has a different sound ish, a different, different way of
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doing her sound each each record.
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So I thought that was important. So again, with how I played this
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game, I already thought and and Ryan, you took my numbers.
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I was like, I think we're going to miss.
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I think we're going to have a lot of twos and threes, so I
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hate to do it. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm going
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to. I hope I'm wrong, truly.
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I'm going to go. I'm going to say 2.
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Oh wow. I just, I just think we're going
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to, I think we're going to find same records, but I don't think
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we're going to find the same songs.
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I think we're going to. I think we're going to mess.
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Bloodbath, dude. OK.
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She's agreeable enough that I don't think that next round like
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a 2 isn't going to kill us, but we'll see.
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So four and two are off the board.
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Like pretty pretty even split there.
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Yeah, well, I was gonna go 4, so I'll split the difference and go
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3. OK, all right, well do I do the
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Justin thing here then? Cuz I mean, I'm not taking one
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if 10, it feels like one more than one is going to happen,
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right? Like I'd be shocked if we only
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got 1, although we thought that with wasp and we got 0.
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Right. What the fuck?
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So man, I think just to kind of separate myself from the pack
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12345677's too much, I'm going to go with six.
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I'm going to go with six just to give a little boy separation
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there. Well, yeah.
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Well, I mean, like I think all of us had the same.
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Number in mind. I think 4 was on all of US's
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mind. So it means it's going to be 5.
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It means it's going to be 5 and we're going to converse our way
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out of it, right? All right, so with that, we're
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going to take a quick pause. And on the other side of it, we
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are going to play the game. It's the program, Jack.
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And with that, the name of the game is deprogrammed.
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The four of us have come through the entirety as far as I can
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tell of Avril Lavigne's discography. 93 songs, 7 albums
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and plucked out 20 songs that are now going to mash together
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in an attempt to create a top ten star kit for you.
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In case you have never given Avril Lavigne the time of day.
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And look man, I haven't done this in a while because I always
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try to stay away from this one, but I love when an artist does
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the thing. Tell me what you are right off
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RIP and for her to come out with this straight out the gate, if
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this would have been the lead single, I think I would, or at
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least if it would have had the same success as skater boy.
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I should say, because I think it may have been a single.
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I think I look at her completely different off RIP.
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I'm going with losing grip. Damn right.
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Got it. I don't have it.
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We'll take a three there. A three is as good as in in a
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four person panel. I will say I did get that as an
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answer. So I am shocked that it didn't
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go through, but OK, I I just feel like immediately because
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you push play on that and then you go, oh, it isn't you know,
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it isn't skater boy. It's it's this OK, cool, like
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and it immediately set me at ease.
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So, all right, losing grip is going to take a three and Ryan.
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I'm going to go with my happy ending.
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Yeah, got it. Yeah, there we go.
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Valid baby. So much for my happy ending.
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Boom boom boom. I was almost up there on my my
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listen through. Come on, There we go.
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Which was a single as well. But yes, it was this again, even
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this. Like, you could say that this
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lives closer to pop punk than, you know, some of the other
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songs. But even this to me, like, lives
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closer to emo anyway, Yeah. For sure.
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Well, this is the drama. This is what we're talking
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about. Like this, this is Avril's
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drama, the best way. And it's it's amazing.
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It's amazing. The video is amazing, The song
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is amazing. We got 2 of that on when I asked
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the Internet. So we were all on board with the
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Internet agreeing with us. Boom.
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All right, Joe. Well, I was going to play, I was
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going to play a ballad right off the bat.
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But since we already got that, I'm going to go with OK, this
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one's off of a goodbye lullaby. So around 2011, I feel like a
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lot of artists like Avril, well, you know, those artists were
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were were doing songs about breakups and what was me?
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And you know, why don't you want to kiss me or date me or
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whatever. And Avril's like, no, you know
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what? I'm going to go out and date
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whoever I want because I'm a grown ass woman.
23:47
Don't give a shit if you like it or not.
23:48
So I'm playing. What the hell?
23:50
Oh, I don't have it. I almost did.
23:54
That was one of my last Oh. My that was one that I cut.
23:59
Oh my God you guys are wrong. OK, I'll say this.
24:04
You know, I can't save you, Joe, but I can say that listeners
24:08
agree with you. So that was that's one that the
24:11
listeners picked as well. Yeah, you guys are wrong.
24:15
OK, it's fine. All right, Corey.
24:20
All right. I can't believe it got bent.
24:23
Yeah, no, that is crazy. I thought for sure it would at
24:25
least be in the conversation. Yeah.
24:28
Wow. I'll, I'll go off the best damn
24:32
thing with girlfriend. Let's just do it.
24:34
Damn. Right, I don't.
24:38
No. Wow, I'm with you Corey.
24:41
These these dudes are fucking wrong but OK for.
24:44
Real. That's, that's the that's the
24:48
poppiest pop punk song that she has.
24:51
Isn't it though? I wish I had made what the hell
24:55
come through my final cuts just for you, friend.
24:57
I'm sorry I let you down. It's all good, but that's that's
25:02
guys. That's why I said, that's why I
25:03
said too, because this is going to happen the whole time I I
25:06
feel. Yeah, I, I, I get the feeling.
25:09
I for the record, girlfriend was for sure on my first pass.
25:14
I don't have a particular reason why I dropped it, I just did.
25:18
So it'd be like that. Sometimes it'd be like that.
25:22
Sometimes it'd be like that. All right, I'm going to stay on
25:27
the single train and see. This is also an answer I got, so
25:33
I feel like I might find one of you.
25:35
How about here's to never growing up?
25:37
Damn right. Got it.
25:39
Yep. Hey there it is, all right.
25:42
All right, I didn't expect that one to be all the way.
25:48
Like I said, I figured one of you all would have it.
25:57
There it is. This is one that my wife has
26:03
been fed on Spotify a bunch so I'd heard it before and I know.
26:09
She skips it. No, I I mean she just has it
26:12
turned down like I never, I didn't clock that it was her.
26:16
Right. Got it.
26:17
So when it came out, I was like, I know this song.
26:19
I was like, OK, like I can get on board with this.
26:22
And I feel like it. I mean, Joe, we're both huge
26:27
Blink fans. Like the here's the never
26:30
growing up kind of like gives me that same damn it vibe.
26:34
Absolutely like. Absolutely.
26:36
Well, you know, and and again, from from what my ears, my
26:40
perspective with Avril, and again, I'll say it again, her,
26:42
her, her, her version of pop punk again, we well, you know,
26:48
again, I was really. Well, yeah.
26:49
I mean, I guess we all kind of grown up.
26:51
I've directly grown up with her music too.
26:53
So I mean, this is this is a perfect track, if you will, like
26:57
you made the Blink reference anthem part three that just came
27:00
out when we're all in our well, almost in our 40s.
27:03
Some of us are in our 40s, you know what I'm saying?
27:05
Like so that's that's this song for for her the same adjacent as
27:10
you know what what Blink is for for you and I, I think.
27:13
For sure, for sure. All right, boom, just like that.
27:16
We're at Joe's two. Let's see if we can do some
27:19
more. I mean, we're still, it's still
27:21
early on too, so. Still early, still early.
27:23
All right, Ryan. I'm going to go back with the
27:27
second album again and do one of my favorite songs from It Is
27:31
Nobody's Home. Yes, got it.
27:33
Yeah, me too. Hell yeah, dude.
27:36
The Internet, like big time, agrees with us.
27:40
Yeah. So I mean, just that record is
27:42
so damn good. Banger from start to finish.
27:47
Absolutely no skips. No, it's, again, it's funny
27:51
because you know, as my roommate used to listen to it, like I'm
27:56
thinking, oh, you know what a perv, you know, like at the
27:59
time, because he was my age. So it's like, what a perv.
28:03
And then you go back and listen to it and it's like, no, I get
28:06
why, because this was totally the kind of music he was into.
28:09
So he was so excited when this record came out.
28:15
All right, Nobody's home gets all the way through.
28:20
We're at Corey's three with so much gameplay left now.
28:25
Now I'm worried that my 6 might come through and I'm going to
28:28
have to pick a song, man, Ain't nobody want that.
28:33
All right, Joe. I'm going to move.
28:37
See, Corey played Girlfriend last time, so I'm going to go
28:39
over to that same album, The Best Damn Thing.
28:42
I thought this song, well there was a lot of songs on that
28:46
record that sounded like Girlfriend, so I wanted to find
28:49
one that didn't sounds like Girlfriend but was still again
28:53
her version of pop punk. So I chose Hot.
28:58
No, no, no. Nope.
29:01
Damn. OK, that one was.
29:03
I'm not going to say you're, I'm not going to say you're wrong on
29:05
that one. It was just a that was that was
29:07
just bringing something to the table that sounded different.
29:10
That one was on my first class for sure.
29:12
So I'm not mad about that one. All right, Corey.
29:17
All right, I am going to. I'll go off and let go with
29:23
things I'll never say. Oh, very good, no.
29:28
That was on mine, that was my, that was the intro song for me
29:31
that got me hooked. That was my last cut brother,
29:36
very last cut. I was debating on that one and
29:38
and one other one that will will come up.
29:41
It was it was a really tough cut.
29:42
I love that song. I truly love that song.
29:46
I won't say you're wrong, but you're wrong.
29:52
I mean, as it sits, the these twos are are looking good to get
29:56
in so, but again, there's still a lot of gameplay left, so I'll
30:03
do it, man. I'm going to go over to Love
30:04
Sucks and I'm going to go with the title track.
30:06
How about Love Sucks? I don't.
30:10
Nope. I didn't take that one all.
30:12
Right, nice little temperature taker to see where everybody is
30:17
with that one. All right, Ryan.
30:27
Let's go with this one is I took my daughter to see Avril for her
30:33
first concert and she had a blast.
30:37
Her favorite song that we that she sings is I Love You, so I
30:41
had to put that one on the list. Aw that's so sweet.
30:44
And now I feel. Really.
30:46
Really bad for I. Feel really right.
30:48
I was going to say thanks for making you feel like a Dick for
30:50
not having it. Yeah, I don't.
30:52
I don't have it, but that's that's real.
30:55
That's really cool. Into the bin, unfortunately.
31:00
It's all right. It's all right, though, it's
31:02
still her favorite, so. Sorry.
31:04
To your daughter. It was a good time though, yeah.
31:08
All right, Joe. OK, it's ballad time, ladies and
31:12
gentlemen. Well, it's just gentlemen here.
31:15
If you guys don't have this one, I swear like you're the wrongest
31:21
wrong that is ever wrong. You're going to be mad enough to
31:24
drive through the tunnel. I mean, I might, I might have to
31:28
pause the show tell tell Justin to put a marker on the live
31:31
feed. I guess we're not live.
31:32
Let's put it on the feed and I'll see you guys in three
31:35
hours, right? Right.
31:38
It's the title track off this album, Head Above Water. 1000%.
31:43
Yeah. I got it.
31:45
Fuck you guys. Oh my God, that song brought
31:48
when she when I saw her live, that brought me to tears, bro.
31:52
Oh my God, I'm not ashamed to say that that brought me to
31:55
tears. I was bawling you.
31:56
Shouldn't be ashamed. No one should be.
31:58
Ashamed. I would.
31:59
I'm. I'm.
31:59
I'm never ashamed of anything. Do you know me?
32:01
Come. On I do.
32:04
I'm just saying though, like, Oh my gosh, the the mix of the, the
32:08
song, the aura, the performance, Oh my gosh.
32:12
Yeah, anyway. You know what I like is it
32:15
really kind of showcases the change.
32:17
Like I found that that's what I was looking for post 1st 2
32:22
records is like what's what's different and what is really
32:27
what am I gravitating towards that she does well and this was
32:31
for sure one of them. So Oh my God, it's taking me
32:34
forever to scroll up to the top. Come on, come on, bud.
32:38
Come on bud, where are we now 4? Yeah, 4.
32:46
Yep. All right.
32:49
I mean, still a lot out here, Corey.
32:54
I'm gonna go to Goodbye Lullaby track 1 Black Star dude.
33:01
I don't have that. Don't have it?
33:03
Me neither, me neither. Just like that.
33:07
Right off the shirt, right off the choice.
33:09
No, but again, really, really solid album.
33:15
Goodbye lullaby. Coming off of what the best
33:18
dance thing was, is a it was a really it was a cool change.
33:24
I I I I liked the change. Yeah, dude.
33:31
Where do I go? I don't have it noted.
33:40
OK, so it's off of the best damn thing ever.
33:42
How about everything back but you?
33:44
I do not. It was on my first, It was on my
33:48
first pass. Nope, not for me all.
33:52
Right bend, bend, bend. All right, Ryan.
34:01
Let's go with Fall to Pieces. No, no for me.
34:08
Nope. Which record is that?
34:11
That was off the second album, wasn't it?
34:13
There we go. Yeah.
34:16
All right, Joe. You know what I'm going to go
34:20
down to Love sucks because I haven't played anything off that
34:23
yet. I'm going to go with Bite Me.
34:26
Yes, Sir. I don't.
34:29
I do. Hey, we'll.
34:31
Take a 3, all right. Threes look good, Threes look
34:36
good and boom, come on, there we go.
34:47
All right, Corey. I'm going to.
34:51
I'll go to head above water and play.
34:54
I fell in love with the devil. Very good, but not I.
35:00
It was close, but not me. Yeah, same.
35:03
I don't have it. OK, all right, let's see what we
35:07
got here. Shifter up.
35:09
We've got 4 all the way through. OK, we still have plenty of room
35:15
for MTP technically at this point.
35:22
All right, I don't know if we're doing this on purpose, but we
35:26
got to test the room. How about complicated?
35:29
Nope. Nope.
35:31
Nope, Nope. Oh.
35:33
I didn't expect the banner. I mean, my my take is that's not
35:38
even the Best Song in her discography.
35:41
I think. I mean, hey, I mean, hey, we
35:44
complicated was the first single.
35:46
And if we didn't have that, we wouldn't be talking today
35:49
because it put her on it put her on the fucking map, right.
35:53
But man, like, and and I say this with with all respect,
35:58
because I'm no, I'm not an artist, I'm not a lyricist or a
36:01
vocalist. I can't play play an instrument,
36:04
but that song is so basic and just he's like soft.
36:11
That's the best way I could say it.
36:12
I think it's, I think out of her whole discography is like 92 on
36:17
93. Wow, wow.
36:20
Hot take, Joe. Yeah, hot take.
36:23
I mean, I mean, hey, I'm glad it came out and she made it because
36:26
we wouldn't be here today. But compared to everything else,
36:29
I'm like. I feel like I'm glad I'm the one
36:34
who brought it up because it needed to come up in this
36:37
conversation. Sometimes it was you, dude.
36:41
For real? Yeah, valid.
36:42
I'm. Floored.
36:43
I'm floored that it was you. It had, it had to come up.
36:48
Somebody had to say it. So, and I mean, again, for the
36:52
record, the Internet, you know it, it got answers from the
36:56
Internet. So I thought, I thought I was on
36:59
base. So, all right, complicated Bend
37:05
Ryan. How about hello, Heartache?
37:14
No, don't have it. New.
37:17
You know what? I need to just bring up the
37:20
control search. No control.
37:24
F. There it is.
37:26
What was it again? Sorry.
37:27
Hello Heartache. Hello Heartache.
37:30
Not Hello Kitty. All right, Joe.
37:41
Got to play this. I'm going to stay on the best
37:43
damn thing when you're gone. Got it.
37:47
I've got it. What's?
37:50
My order here. That must have been one of my
37:55
last, last ones. No, I thought.
37:58
I immediately went to say yes and I was like, well where is it
38:01
then? The Internet agrees with you and
38:03
disagrees with me, so we'll take that 3.
38:06
I mean, the song, I like the song.
38:09
I also just loved the placement of this song being on that
38:13
record. That's very poppy.
38:16
It was a nice I well, obviously I knew I knew the song, but then
38:21
going through everything again, like, you know what?
38:23
This is a good, this is a good change.
38:24
This is a good popcorn match, essentially.
38:26
Yeah. You know what I mean there.
38:28
You go. There you go, Corey.
38:32
I will stay on the best damn thing and go with.
38:35
Runaway. Yes.
38:39
What was it? Runaway.
38:40
Runaway. Yep, I've got that one.
38:43
I'm the odd man out. Now we're starting to look at
38:45
these twos a little cross eyed because now we're now we're
38:50
making some headway. It was on my first pass though.
38:55
All right, this one feels like I'm just kind of tossing it out
39:03
here, but let's find out. How about I always get what I
39:05
want? Nope, no, but it's like the the
39:11
great song. It's a great song.
39:12
Yeah, yeah, that's a no for me also.
39:15
Bend. I'm like you.
39:18
I'm like, yeah, you do, Avro. Absolutely.
39:20
You. What do you?
39:20
What do you want? You want?
39:21
What do you want? Right.
39:22
I got you. Right.
39:24
Your boy is like living in the bend these last couple rounds.
39:27
All right, right. Let's go.
39:34
How about let me go? No.
39:40
No, I. No, I guess I did cut that.
39:44
I had it at one point though. I mean, that's like the Canadian
39:48
like power couple song right there.
39:52
That's fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:54
Her and her and Derek danced. That was their first song
39:57
probably and also when Chad Kroeger that they probably did
40:01
that as their last song probably.
40:04
Yeah. Hey you.
40:06
Oh, and the hockey player, whatever his name was, that was
40:09
like mid, mid reception. They danced to that Probably.
40:15
Probably. Probably all right, Joe God.
40:21
Damn it, I'm going to go. I'm going to go to under my
40:26
skin. I I don't know if you guys,
40:30
yeah, I have a freak out. Oh no dude, that was one of my
40:37
last cuts. Yeah, I figured that was a, that
40:41
was a that was a purposeful. I'm going to take this one
40:46
because it's different. Yeah.
40:49
So I so I didn't expect, I didn't expect anybody to have
40:53
that. All right, Corey.
40:55
All right, I'm going to do the other thing off a let go skater
41:01
boy. Absolutely.
41:04
I don't have that one. I don't either.
41:09
I got you, Corey. Thanks brother.
41:10
So it was absolutely gameplay from me because this is the song
41:18
that turned me off. Right.
41:21
So it's like, if you guys insist, you know, sure.
41:26
But like, I'm not going to be the one who puts it through
41:29
unanimously. Yeah, for me it was either this
41:31
or complicated, and it wasn't even a debate.
41:34
Yeah. And that's what's funny to me is
41:36
that Justin picked pick the other one.
41:38
Right, dude, right. What the fuck?
41:40
Well. Again, I, I, I feel like we're
41:42
in the upside down here, buddy, but it's OK.
41:45
It's OK, but think about what I said is.
41:47
Like, yeah, you're right. That's that's.
41:49
Skater boy put put me onto the wrong track with her like it it
41:54
made me think the wrong thing. If only, if only you would have
41:58
been listening to the radio like 6 months prior and then you
42:02
would have been like oh shit this is what I like.
42:05
She's good. Yeah, but what can you do?
42:08
What can you do? What can you do?
42:10
What can you do all? Right.
42:12
So it gets a two though like technically hanging on by a
42:15
thread. Right now it's in the threes are
42:17
or the twos are in conversation. As it stands 12 123456789 I
42:26
think we can do like one more round.
42:28
Let's we'll call it two more rounds.
42:33
Let's find out. How about don't tell me?
42:37
It's a no for me dog. That's all to me.
42:40
I've. Got it.
42:42
Hey, I'll take it too. Barely clan the life with it,
42:45
but again, the Internet agreed with me so I kind of did not go
42:50
back to make space for it. Or, you know, to take it out, I
42:54
should say. Yeah, OK.
42:57
All right. We'll take the two there and
42:59
we'll move on, right? How about I'm with you?
43:04
Damn right. Got it.
43:05
Yeah. Absolutely 2. 3A4 I can't
43:11
believe we were all holding on to that one.
43:13
Yeah. Right.
43:16
But it's there and let me click that off.
43:26
What's that? What is that 5?
43:29
Yeah, it's right there, buddy. Yeah, I know.
43:33
It's right there, buddy. Almost.
43:35
Like we said, that was gonna happen.
43:36
Yeah. That is true.
43:39
All right, So I'm with you is in Joe.
43:51
I'm going to go to Goodbye Lullaby, and if you guys don't
43:56
have this, I'm not going to be mad about it, but I think it's a
43:58
great song. Smile.
44:01
No, I don't. I've got it, so do I.
44:03
Hey. Nice.
44:05
We'll take a three. Wow.
44:07
OK. Yeah.
44:09
All right. 1-2 and three and I think just like that, the twos
44:14
are dead. Oh.
44:16
No, I. Think we'll?
44:19
Find out. Yeah, I think you're right.
44:20
We'll find out. I don't know.
44:22
Damn. Yeah, I know, dude.
44:24
We'll see. There's one I was ready to flip
44:26
tables over. I mean, we'll get there, Corey.
44:34
Not a lot left. I will also go off of Goodbye
44:38
Lullaby with Wish You Were Here. No.
44:42
No, don't have it. Cheeks.
44:48
Do the math here so we can know where these twos are.
44:52
SO12345 all the way through 12345.
44:56
Yeah, technically speaking, as it stands, the threes, there's
45:01
five of them, so. I mean technically.
45:04
Speaking I. Mean technically, but I mean.
45:07
But we'll cross that bridge, all right?
45:10
I'm just going to dump out here. Take a dump.
45:13
I'm going to. Start at the top.
45:15
How about unwanted? Nope.
45:19
Yep. Hey.
45:20
Oh, boom, all right, next same record.
45:27
Too much to ask. Nope.
45:30
Nope. Nope.
45:34
All right, moving on to Under my skin, He wasn't.
45:40
That was close, but no. Nope.
45:43
Not for me. OK, I'm wishing I would have
45:50
noted. Usually I didn't want to give
45:54
away gameplay. Normally I fill this out ahead
45:56
of time with mine, but if I did then you would see which ones I
45:59
have, right? All right, not enough.
46:03
Yes. I don't.
46:07
Nope. OK, that was one I expected
46:09
nobody else to take, as a matter of fact.
46:12
Boom, take a two there, barely living on.
46:20
I think we're moving on to and whenever I see it, I will tell
46:28
you, oh, I skipped it somehow. Where are you?
46:35
Well, the name of the song is Give you what You like.
46:39
Hey now. Hey.
46:42
I don't have it. Me either.
46:43
I just want to never. Comment.
46:45
OK, into the bin. And then last but not least,
46:50
look man, I'm a blink mark when blink shows up on or on a song.
46:57
I mean, unless it was terrible, it was never not making my list.
47:00
How about all I wanted? I don't.
47:04
That's no, that's fair. I didn't take it because
47:06
featuring. Yeah, I get it.
47:09
Normally that would be a minus for me, but it was.
47:11
One compass. Yeah, I know.
47:13
I thought about. I thought about it.
47:14
I thought about it. All right, so that means we land
47:18
at 5. Nobody's going to win.
47:22
Go figure. Go figure.
47:24
Let me shift this around and then Ryan can empty his out.
47:28
Boom, boom, boom. All right.
47:30
What do you got left, Ryan? I got keep holding on.
47:36
All right. Nope.
47:37
Hold on there it is. OK.
47:42
Sipping on sunshine? Nope.
47:44
Nope. Birdie and best damn thing.
47:51
Nope, Nope and Nope. OK, birdie, IRD birdie and best
48:00
damn thing BES T Oh, come on. I mean, I guess that's the name
48:13
of the record, which is why that would not just take me to it.
48:16
There it is. All right, Joe.
48:21
I'm really surprised this one didn't get brought up at all.
48:23
Alice from Goodbye Lullaby No. That was wild.
48:28
First pass. It's wild from head above water.
48:34
It was in me. Nope.
48:38
Nope from Love Sucks FU and Deja vu.
48:43
Very good, I had both of those on my first.
48:47
I do not. Actually, I think FU is probably
48:51
like 2223, if I'm being honest. All right, Corey.
48:57
So off. Goodbye lullaby.
48:59
Everybody hurts. Head above water warrior and
49:09
then off of Love sucks I had kissed me like the world is
49:12
ending and avalanche. Very good.
49:14
Oh, you're such ASAP. Well, I knew you were going to
49:18
be here, man. Absolutely no.
49:21
I was. Expecting you to be here in
49:22
person, but. First first, first pass for
49:25
sure. I just didn't just didn't bring
49:27
it to the table. It happens, man.
49:29
All right, it happens. Shift this around.
49:32
Let's go through the five that are through.
49:34
We've got my happy ending. Here's the never growing up.
49:37
Nobody's home. Head above water and I'm with
49:39
you. We're off to a good start
49:40
already. What do we got here for threes?
49:44
Losing grip? I mean.
49:46
Go ahead. No, I go ahead, Justin.
49:48
Go ahead. Go ahead.
49:49
OK, so the threes here are losing grip.
49:52
Bite me when you're gone, run away and smile.
49:57
We could do the easy thing and just take those five and call it
50:01
a day. No.
50:03
Yeah, no. No.
50:06
Well, then let's start with this.
50:07
Is there one that should have been a four Ryan?
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Girlfriend. Yes.
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Well OK fucking girlfriend, hold on, let's let's tackle these
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threes first. Is one of these threes?
50:19
Well, I'll tell you, I'll tell you right off the bat, buddy,
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Girlfriend is a better song than Runaway and Smile combined.
50:24
And I like and I had those songs but Girlfriend is a better song
50:29
than both of those like by far in my opinion.
50:34
Agree my humble opinion. Well, all right, let me ask
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this. Ryan, are are you willing to
50:41
concede on girlfriend? I'm.
50:46
Like I'm just going to like trying to find it.
50:49
What album was that on? Oh, that was the first song.
50:51
That's. Damn, that's damn saying.
50:52
You you I don't like your girlfriend.
50:57
I think you need a new one. Yeah, to be honest, I feel like
51:00
the the video was cringy and I think that's what put me off
51:04
when I saw it when it came out. Right, right.
51:06
OK, have you have you seen her do the song live?
51:09
No, I have not. OK.
51:11
Well, Ryan, I know you have. Yeah, we have.
51:15
I know you had fun. I know your daughter had fun.
51:18
I'll, I'll say yeah, that one should go through all right.
51:21
Because let's. Go, Ryan.
51:24
It's more it's the better poppy punk song then skater boy of the
51:31
two because it was like the less lesser of the two, a lesser
51:34
known of the two. For sure agreed.
51:36
And it wasn't overplayed. I I will take that, Ryan.
51:40
I will take that. All right, so let's go back to
51:43
these threes you've you've gotten your two.
51:45
Joe is one of these. Should one of these threes been
51:49
a four, Ryan? No.
51:56
Really. OK, so.
51:58
I would put things I'll never say above everything.
52:02
That's a three right now. I, I'm, I'm kind of with you on
52:08
that, Ryan, because that was my last cut and it was that one was
52:11
kind of tough for me to do because I picked, I picked not
52:14
enough over things I'll never say and it was tough for me to
52:16
cut that. One.
52:18
Yeah, all. Right, so.
52:19
So I I kind of agree with Ryan on like that one that that
52:22
things I'll never say should. Should be in.
52:24
So that's Ryan and Corey. So Corey doesn't need to be
52:28
convinced. So go ahead and grab.
52:30
That played it so. All right, so that brings us up
52:34
to seven. Same question to you, Corey is
52:37
one of those. Should one of those threes been
52:39
a four? I mean, so the only one I didn't
52:42
have was bite me and I that was, I mean, a hard cut to make.
52:47
I I mean, I think it shocked me losing grip wasn't a four.
52:55
I wholeheartedly agree. I, I double, I double stamped
52:59
that triple stamp, Yeah. Are you willing to conceive?
53:05
OK, all right, let's grab that one.
53:08
And then I'm going to advocate for Bite Me Here because for
53:11
album representation, we should. We need something from that
53:14
record. And I I was the only one that
53:16
didn't have it all cosigned. Girlfriend got through so I'm
53:18
happy all. Right, So boom.
53:21
What does that bring us up to? 99. 9 and let's see 123456 so
53:29
one of the records isn't covered yet.
53:31
We've got 3 from let go. Goodbye Lullaby is the the odd
53:34
man out? All right.
53:35
Well then that I mean. And I didn't have a smile.
53:38
Look, I mean, I'm fine. I'm good with that depending on
53:42
how the group feels. I mean, or we can take from the
53:45
bin and say what the hell, because that's a better song.
53:47
But hey, that's just me. I know how Justin feels about
53:50
going to the bin, but I mean, hey, whatever.
53:53
I'm just saying. You should have won, brother.
53:55
I You're right. I should have been fucking
53:57
positive. Absolutely.
53:58
You are 100%, absolutely, absolutely.
54:04
Smile's good. I mean, Smile's good.
54:06
If everybody agrees with that. That's album representation.
54:08
I. Was the only one that didn't
54:09
have it. I'm, I'm fine with that, yeah.
54:12
I'm only bullshit, I'm only just being an asshole.
54:16
All right, Boom. Smile will be our 10th song.
54:19
Shift that around. I'll run this down one last
54:21
time, and then we'll turn the heat up.
54:23
All right, so we've got my happy ending.
54:25
Here's to never growing up. Nobody's home.
54:27
Head above water. I'm with you, girlfriend.
54:29
Things I'll never say. Losing grip.
54:31
Bite me. And Smile rounds out our 10.
54:34
Irene, those 10. Down to you there, Ryan.
54:36
Which one jumps out to you as the one?
54:44
Oh yeah, I'm, I'm, I got 2 that I'm looking at, but I me too.
54:56
I don't know which one to pick. So I, I started off the I just
55:01
said, you know, when we put it in things I'll never say was the
55:04
song that got me hooked. So that's always been like a
55:06
favorite song for me, but song like actually like my happy
55:11
ending is I think one of her best songs.
55:15
OK, what do you think, Jill? So.
55:19
He's not wrong. He's not wrong that My Head is
55:23
one of one of her best songs, but.
55:26
Take that. But I mean, I would I'd make a
55:32
hard case for girlfriend being number one with a.
55:34
Bull. That's what I'm saying.
55:36
That's what I'm saying. But if nobody's going to agree
55:39
with me on that, then I would then I I would say to other.
55:43
People. I mean, girlfriend is really the
55:47
I mean, you start that off the start this list off hop and then
55:50
you're going with bangers and bangers and bangers after that.
55:53
So like I'm saying girlfriend truly.
55:55
But if I'm not going to win that argument, then I would say bite
55:58
me. Oh, OK, OK.
56:02
Because we're at least we're at least getting that that vibe,
56:05
like, I mean, my happy ending. I love that song.
56:07
I just don't know that's necessarily going to like a
56:11
brand new listener. I mean, I might hook hook
56:13
somebody, but you come in hot with bite me or, you know,
56:16
girlfriend, they're going to be like, oh, OK, I'm ready to party
56:19
now. You want the hot open you, you
56:22
know you. Got to.
56:23
Let's get the high spot, brother, right?
56:25
Cruiserweights, right? I mean, I can, I can see the
56:30
case. So let's bring in the next
56:31
layer. Think about this, Corey is like,
56:34
whatever we pick here is going to the best of right.
56:37
So you're going to have middle-aged dudes like us.
56:42
Right, right. We're going to have to sell them
56:45
on Avril Lavigne. Some without any taste.
56:48
Yeah, name and names, I mean. I was, I mean, and to me that in
56:55
a in a way furthers the argument for girlfriend.
56:58
I mean, that's sentimentally to me.
56:59
Like if I'm going to rock one Avril song, that's probably
57:01
where I'm going. But if I'm being honest, the
57:05
other one that jumped out to me was my happy ending.
57:07
OK. Those are the 2 for me.
57:12
Yeah, I agree with Joe. I think it should be girlfriend,
57:15
but again, it's also two of four here.
57:17
So realistically. Yeah, it's true.
57:21
OK. I'm trying to picture myself as
57:23
a middle-aged man. It's really difficult to do I
57:29
I'll pass for now. Oh.
57:31
OK, well more on this on after the fact, I guess 'cause as
57:36
we're recording this, the best of episode comes out next week.
57:39
OK, for. Last year, it's hard to not pick
57:44
one of the ones that we all picked unanimously.
57:46
Like that is always something that I lean towards, you know,
57:51
but The thing is like, do we want see girlfriend is a lot
57:56
more fun than people would probably expect Avril to be.
58:01
So like I I hear that argument for sure.
58:04
And I think had I not seen the, if the I had not seen the video
58:12
like whenever it came out, I probably would like the song a
58:15
lot more and I probably would have had it in my list.
58:21
That said, like hearing it now did make me.
58:25
It did make my first pass. Banger dude.
58:27
Right, it is. So it's like does.
58:30
Definable. Does the fun outweigh?
58:35
Will the fun fine? Are we arguing over nothing?
58:38
Like does this? Does do any of these songs
58:41
actually stand a chance? I guess is my question.
58:45
I don't know who wouldn't see the fun in Girlfriend.
58:47
You know well, afraid I was never going to see the fun.
58:49
In anything. Yeah, especially, especially
58:52
anything that's good, but. More on that soon.
59:05
Obviously I'm just being a Jay. I don't really feel that way
59:09
mostly. Who I You know, I if I'm so part
59:18
of me is is there with happy ending as well right like just.
59:22
The idea. So that's that's what I was
59:23
going to say like OK, both both songs do show a vocal range
59:27
because as girlfriend begins to end, she goes in a high, high
59:31
pitch, you know what I mean? And in my happy ending, she has
59:36
I can, I can hit those notes. Corey, come on.
59:39
I need AI would need a little bit of tequila.
59:41
I mean, I don't drink anymore, so it's not going to happen.
59:43
But. But in my the point in my happy
59:46
ending, you get right to the end there when she's like, nice to
59:49
know like that, you know, I mean, she does such a vocal
59:52
range in my happy ending that could also maybe hit the ears of
59:56
a middle-aged man and be like, oh, this girl can sing.
59:59
So I understand that argument. Too.
1:00:01
So I guess the question is, do we want to hit them over the
1:00:04
head with fun or do we want to do kind of what happened to me
1:00:09
go? Oh, by the way, she isn't this
1:00:11
pop punk Princess like it's it is something.
1:00:14
Else. Well, she is, but I understand
1:00:17
what you're saying. Right, she is.
1:00:18
And also, what's better than fun man?
1:00:23
So let's go back to Ryan. Like where has Ryan?
1:00:26
What do you say? Have you been swayed on any of
1:00:29
this? It's it's your episode, so.
1:00:32
I'm going to say I'm going to go back with my happy ending just
1:00:34
because, yeah, I like girlfriend.
1:00:37
It's a fun song. It's it's up there.
1:00:39
But we all thought My happy ending, that was the first song
1:00:43
that made it into the to the end for us.
1:00:45
All four of us said it. So it's definitely.
1:00:46
Valid. All right.
1:00:48
And that's the only reason I'd say it.
1:00:50
You know, I was swayed on Girlfriend to put it into the
1:00:53
top, you know, 10 because I was just like, yeah, you know, it
1:00:56
is. It's better than the other songs
1:00:58
in here. But that's we all agreed on the
1:01:00
first one. Yeah, maybe we should quit while
1:01:02
we're ahead on this one, Joe, we got it in.
1:01:04
That's we did get girls in so I will you know, I was pretty
1:01:08
upset. So I'm now I'm at least.
1:01:10
Me too, I feel. Like maybe I'm going to be.
1:01:12
A little less aggressive. Yeah, I'm mid.
1:01:15
I'm mid right now. So I'm I'm good with my happy
1:01:17
ending. I'm good.
1:01:18
All right. And so with that.
1:01:20
That is, I'm half hot. That'll give us our happy ending
1:01:24
is happy ending is going to be our number one.
1:01:26
I'm going to get that queued up and I will read this down one.
1:01:29
Let's go and we will get on out of here.
1:01:32
My happy, happy ending easy for me to read is going to be our
1:01:36
number one. And if I shift over here, I can
1:01:39
read the rest of them. Here's the never growing up.
1:01:42
Nobody's home. Head above water.
1:01:43
I'm with you, girlfriend. Things I'll never say.
1:01:45
Losing grip Bite me in smile rounds out our ten.
1:01:48
And with that, let's let my happy ending get a moment in the
1:01:52
sun. It's not like we're dead.
1:01:54
Was it something I did? I wish I could play more of it
1:02:01
but. I can't get flagged.
1:02:03
Get flagged and removed so booms nobody likes.
1:02:07
Fun, but you can listen to the you can listen to the playlist
1:02:11
on on the Spotify feed, right? Can't you?
1:02:13
You've been programmed Spotify feed.
1:02:15
What else can you listen to on the on the feed, Justin?
1:02:17
You can actually listen to daily episodes by this point.
1:02:20
Hopefully I'll have been doing it for a couple weeks and there
1:02:24
will be lots for you to catch up on, hopefully.
1:02:27
We're doing daily episodes. Of course, the episodes
1:02:30
themselves come out on Thursday. I'm doing little short bits
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between the rest of the week. So you get a full week of
1:02:37
deprogrammed now, so. All sorts of stuff.
1:02:41
That's true. What else could you want?
1:02:43
I'm giving my everything I'm doing.
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That for $1.00, one American dollar.
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Well, and that's, that's on the free feed friend.
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Like if you have one. Oh, there you go.
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