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PRSN 101: Fall Camp Seminar with Jon McLaughlin · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast.
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With Brian seagull. I am Curtis Wilson, Brian.
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How are you today, man? I'm good, buddy, I'm good.
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How are you? I'm exhausted, buddy.
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What you been up to, dude, day at work and then a 5:30 baseball
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game with my oldest son. Got lucky, though, one of those
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baseball games where like the storms were coming in, but they
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missed us. So we got the wind, we got some
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cool weather. Um, good game fast game.
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We had two teams with six and seven year old boys who are
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hidden the ball. So do we each man, if the kids
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are hitting the ball, you're Ballin, it's like six Innings
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and under an hour, and good fun game.
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And literally we beat the monsoon that hit here in the
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West End, like, literally, I was like five steps for my car in
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the bottom dropped out even more, but he's not to be Lucky
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on this. And actually I was driving back
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from work and hit up speaking of some prescription for my wife
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and the wind starts rolling in. I just see the, the, the clouds
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coming our way and like, blowing, so hard that when the
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drive-thru at the, the pharmacist they couldn't even
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hear what I was saying hardly. And then five minutes later,
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like, everything just started to break up and we got a little bit
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of rain, a little bit of window. That but it looked like it was
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going to be you know torrential downpour and then it turned out
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to be pretty much just a little bit of a shower there and it
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moved on out like that. Well then you just got that
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house vacation down at the lake man.
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Vacation was great, great. We got to actually first time in
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about a year and a half, I've got to spend extended time with
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my brother and his fiance so that was kind of cool.
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They're getting married next year.
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So it's going to be pretty big. Big time.
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I got to spend a week with them, got to spend a week with my dad,
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so it was it was a good time and you know, hit up the pool, hit
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up the lake. It's did some hiking and things
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like that. So it was a good time, man.
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Awesome. And for those of you thought,
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Bryan's just mentioned, like he hadn't seen one of his brothers
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in a long time. Brian.
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This is your brother that if some of these folks drove up to
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New York and looked at some Broadway, Off-Broadway shows,
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they might see his name in the light.
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Slightly. Yeah, so my my my brother was
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recently in Fiddler on the Roof Off Broadway.
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So, you know, pretty pretty big deal.
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They got, you know, cast album and all that thing.
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So, you know, he's really doing some pretty big things up there,
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so very proud of him and I got to see the show last April.
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So is awesome experience. And then obviously right now,
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everything's kind of shut down through the rest of the year.
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So, you know, they're they're doing their thing, but
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unfortunately they've got a lot more time on their And they like
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to have so and not his fiancee is also in Music Theater as
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well. So they're kind of both in the
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same boat there. That sucks, man.
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I mean, especially I know. He, I remember the Fiddler and
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you told me, you got that, and you were going up there to see
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him and it's awesome that he's continuing to chase that dream.
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But hey, at least, you got to see him, at least that are doing
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good and glad you had a good vacation, man.
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You deserve that, you deserved it.
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Appreciate it man, appreciate it.
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Yeah, it was long time coming, you know, we make this trip
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pretty much every year, so we always have it on the calendar,
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something to look forward to. So, you know, we had Bit of a
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Excursion Around July Fourth, but this was the big one.
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This was the one for the week and it's just nice to get away
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for a little bit relaxed. We didn't really go, a whole lot
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of places while we were there. We just kind of stuck around the
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lake and the surrounding surrounding area.
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So it was a nice time. And sometimes, that's all you
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really need is just to get away. All right.
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Well, folks today is If you guys haven't seen the Tweet, we have
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a very special guest coming up in a few minutes, but we've got
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some headlines and some used to get to man's a Brian.
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I'm going to take us right to it.
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We got some commitments. Let's start with the
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government's. Why not?
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Yeah, not one, not two. But three commitments in the
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last few days here. Let's go back.
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EC a 2 to the 3 star 2005 linebacker out of cocks down in
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the 757. Brian?
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No. You looked at this tape.
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How do you feel about this guy? Is he going to be able to play
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Mike or back or you seeing something different with him?
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I think he's probably going to project more backer but I think
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you could potentially grow into a Mike Will you know time will
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tell here. You know, it's showing that
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Virginia Tech is still. Even an eye on the 757.
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Contrary to popular belief, I think keeping an eye down there
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and inside water. So, you know, Frank Cox high
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school. He's a player though.
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I like his tape, I think he's right now, a guy that is
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probably rated a little bit lower than where, I think his
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town is, I'm not saying he's like a, you know, borderline
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four-star guy, but I think he's better than the 83-84 range
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where his his projections are right now.
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So I put him a 85-86 kind of that, you know, mid to
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potentially High three-star range or at least On The Fringe
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of it and I think he's going to do good things I think he's a
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guy that's probably going to need a little seasoning but I
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think with a couple of years under the system he's going to
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do some good things for her. So I like the the grab there and
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let's see who else we got. We got somebody else here.
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Definitely got a couple other guys but straker Right.
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Take care of ya, the three-star six-foot-four 210-pound wide out
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at a Cleveland Tennessee, this kid last season, 1200 total
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yards, 18 touchdowns, you know, we were amongst the ten, his top
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ten back in April, along with somebody like places like Auburn
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am in Nebraska, but he picked the Hokies.
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Now not without controversy. Because back in May there was a
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report he had committed to the University of Tennessee and then
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some things happen and that just like like a very ugly situation.
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But you know what, he's with the Hokies now.
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Brian, when you study this 6-foot for 210 pound, wideout
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tape, tell me what he's going to do for us.
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He's a guy that you know but since he's going to grow into
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that same role that Hazleton had, I think he's a he's a big
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body guy. He's a guy that catches the ball
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well with his hands and I mean just look at the the ratings
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there and we were talking about a fringe four-star caliber
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Talent. He's ranked 88 on 24/7 and right
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at it at 88 in this composite there.
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So you know, high-caliber three star talent and yeah, I really
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like the tape. I think again, he's a guy that
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might need a little Bit of seasoning but just size alone.
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Kind of, like I said, projecting into that Hazleton role or at
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least it may be in the shorter term.
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Doing some of the things that Phil Patterson has done for the
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last couple years before you transfer it out.
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So really like this pick up. Probably the, you know, the best
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caliber wide receiver, we picked up, I think in this class at
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this point Definitely for sure. Definitely the higher caliber
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here, you're saying he's right at 88.
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Which means, I mean, we're probably not looking at a high
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school football season, but is it one of those things where
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they really value 8 him and he gets to that 89, he gets the
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fourth star and become score of the headline of the of the wide
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receiver class. We have because, you know, I
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think with that body immediately you talk about seasoning, but
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you see a body that size if he's already, got the jump ball in
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his back pocket. Real-time a, you're going to be
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inside the 15. Geralt are going to be
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difficult, but here's your here's what you're going to do.
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So yeah I'll be I think the combination of him and Jalen
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Jones or yep. That's two really good guys that
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I think even based on their ranking here might be slightly
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underrated Jalen. Being I think I'm like the 8687
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range and then trade career being right at the 88th I think
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both of them are probably Fringe.
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Four-star talents you know I think both of them for one
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reason or another A little bit short Change on their ranking
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and I think they're probably going to overplay that
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especially in their full career and I think Trey has a potential
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to overplay it even early on just because of the size that he
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brings to the table. Yeah, surgery of that, the bond
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the hook we're not done, Malachi Thomas.
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Now, Malachi currently not ready to buy 24/7.
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He is a three-star by Rivals, the six foot 180 pounds running
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back out of Hart, County down in Georgia Man 3.
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A offensive player of the year as a junior Palmer. 3,000 whole
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purpose to yard which is just asinine we how it has only Only,
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if you P5 offers us do, you can Kansas State, but he also had
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your big group of five yet, UCF, Memphis and Sensi.
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I know, you checked out his tape, just a little earlier
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today. What do you think, man?
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This is tape that jumps off at you and it's insane that
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somehow, this guy did not get on the radar of the guys that are
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thrown out rankings. Because, I mean, I would throw,
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I'd be comfortable right here right now.
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Just looking to take throwing 87, 88 on this guy.
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Who quality Talent, man, quality Talent versatile.
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Which I mean, I know we talked about a lot of Versatility both
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in the skill positions at along the line there, but I think
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that's another thing. He brings the table, he's not
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your your black, sure, your chance black.
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That's mostly a receiving threat, but he's still a between
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the tackles guy, you still a guy that's going to give you every
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down potential but on tape running.
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You know, from the from the back field running up the scene
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catches a scene for a touchdown, running the angle route running
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a wheel he's not just a guy that's catching screams and
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dumps in the flat he's somebody that's still going to be a route
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threat out of the backfield but he's going to do all those
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things between the tackles. If there's one criticism he
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probably runs a little little too straight up but that's not
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something that I think is a deal-breaker especially if
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you're With your vision and he is and he's another guy, he's
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got specialty, does punt returns kick returns.
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So he's got all those skills, he's bringing to the table that
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he's done at a high school level and done it very successfully.
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So I really like the kid. I said, I'm not sure what the
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August rankings are going to hold in terms of him getting a
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ranking on 24/7 or any of the other ranking agencies there.
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But you know, like I said, I would put probably eight. 87 on
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him, just out the gate and and see where he goes from there.
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It looks like he is going to get a senior season, unlike some of
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the players in North Carolina and Virginia, unless something
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changes. So might get some more tape on
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him as well. So that would be nice to get as
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well. Absolutely.
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I got a chance to watch some of the total film from last year
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and I'm going to tell you the one thing that steps out stands
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out for me not as knowledgeable as you about seeing his vision
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and seeing the routes, he runs his stride.
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It is very effortless. Doesn't there times where he's
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running away from guys? And it like, if you watch that
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tape, it's like is he even running that fast?
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And if you just see him like he's up, he's still.
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So it tells me what that's tried that.
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There could be like the 6th Gear where potentially it comes out
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and where he can just turn it on even further and just blow by
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people so it's unbelievable. Yeah.
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I mean he's got that looks like that extra gear.
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I mean, I think he was on 24/7. They had him as a hand clock
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time at like a 45 one. So, I mean, even if he's, you
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know, half a tenth off, that's still a pretty damn good time
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for a running back. And like you said, he looks like
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he natural Strider, and he's got an extra gear, you know,
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sometimes some people are fast but then they aren't fast and
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pads. He's fast and path.
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So I think that's a big thing to look at as well.
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Absolutely, well Braun, maybe I hope the fans at home listening.
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They understand what type of hokey podcast is, is we're not.
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All right, I'll Rob, we're not, you know, positive everything,
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we're realists. And the real is hit us over the
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weekend before star safety. I did now the melon commits to
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Florida. Oh, Virginia Tech, let's say it
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mean DM C DM C. We had the nickname all there
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but that I was gonna be dropping Run DMC and DeLorean means for
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like a next four years and now I don't get too and I'm so sad
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about it. I've been Bana bana bana,
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Florida, and the Florida. Why you got to have all that
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cool shit money? Why it's called money?
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Now, I looked at him and saw him as being a free safety.
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Florida. Has a lot of safeties right now.
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So, I mean, I don't know if it's one of those things, a lot of
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folks are saying they're selling the strong, safety to him which
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if that's the case, you kind of look at the other guys on Here
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who they committed last year and this year they're not strong
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safeties. And if that's what they sold
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him, like we're going to we want you to be down in the Box make
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sense where with us we probably could sell both but I really see
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that being Jalen strowman and then I look at DMC and I think
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you're 62 and a half. You're right at 200.
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You're already you're already built like a free safety.
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If you've got the range, it's us.
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We lost him. But Ronald say something and
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this is going to be the positivity.
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I'd coming out. All right, we got three commits
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and we mentioned two tray and Malachi who would beat out for
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them? For I said we'd beat out NC
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State in West Virginia and I think what I hope the realest of
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the fanbase like me and you understand is we can win a lot
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of fights against NC State, West Virginia, Kansas State Duke, the
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trade, Curry one, that seemed a little more pushy.
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There's some good players there but we're certainly Things
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acting up but we can fight with those guys.
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When you start bringing battles with your Alabama's, your
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Florida's your George's. Clemson's that were
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Cruiserweight their heavyweight. Can we also talked about how
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Florida news how to negatively recruit us?
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How many hope he's on staff because of Dorian Gray at all.
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They know. They know I did - recruit us and
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they also know that they've got A lot of Leverage that we don't
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have and they can play that leverage in ways that we can't,
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that's not to say that we shouldn't go out there and win
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some of these battles against these Blue Bloods.
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We definitely need to start doing that at the same time,
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though. We got to be real with the
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situation and understand that there's things Florida offers
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that we can't. And there's opportunities that
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Florida offers that right now. We're not quite there, and I
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think we're doing a good job. Job in pickups like Malachi
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Thomas and trickery and then see a Tuesday that speaks to we're
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finding guys that are kind of Fringe in that that that
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four-star range in terms of their talent and probably
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potentially could overplay what they're either.
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What their ranking is now or what we even anticipate for them
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based on our reviews. So, you know, I think we're
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doing some good things in that thing, but just I really like
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the DMC a lot. And so this one, this one stings
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a little bit more, not again, nicknamed aside I liked, I liked
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everything nickname. I like the potential there, but
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you know, the kid was pretty good too.
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And just the way he interacted with the fan base and
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everything, he he was, he wasn't someone that was leading you on.
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But he was also engaging, which is hard to find with a guy that
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hadn't committed yet. So I really appreciated that and
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you know, it's a tough loss for us.
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Absolutely. He's a good player and you could
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just tell his own overall really good kid.
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So it does suck, we lose him. Hopefully they keep recruiting
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him and Florida gets another safety.
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Commit. And he said yeah, that's my only
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hope. There's still a possibility at
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this not signing day yet. All right man.
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Just quick hitter Man On Third us out there.
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Oh dat canceled the season UI. I think I'm gonna make it.
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I think I'm gonna make it. It's tough to see.
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Does mean that I don't get to see, hopefully the Tigers beat
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up on making this year. I was hoping that this was going
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to be one of those years where that, where they finally take a
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step back in the right direction.
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Since they've kind of been down probably last four or five
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years, they've struggled recruiting Richmond and they've
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struggled a little bit, recruiting some of the Tidewater
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talent in the last few years. So it's kind of been a little
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bit down for them, they got they've gotten back in Tidewater
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a little bit. They still haven't cracked the
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804 bubble that pager aruz has put up around greater Even here.
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So, you know, we'll see if they have long-term success, but
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unfortunately, not going to get to see what they do this fall.
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Yeah, my hope is for D3. They just say a spring season
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and it may be that. That's where they found a niche.
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They go to the spring season and it's hey, this is good.
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It's the wetters the weather's, a little better.
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Maybe we can get some TV deals out of this, where we're playing
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on whatever you can think of. But I know.
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That hitch kick in, you know, let's let's cross our fingers
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that. Maybe mid-February they do a 10
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game season and me, and you can drive up to Ash is a game and
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Ashlyn, or is it down in the form of this year?
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I think it's informed, real this year.
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Maybe we can guide them. All right.
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Braun few weeks ago, me and you discuss that two positions had
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been posted. Yep, we talked about how nice it
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would be to see some former players and buddy did the staff.
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The liver Own that Corey feel like ones, ma'am Jerome's of at
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Winslow back, own staff. What you think?
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Honestly, love both hires and both positions at the ended up
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getting there, especially with Corey taking over the assistant
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to the on-campus role. I think that's going to be great
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for him. That that's really.
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We had we had talked about it like I can't think of a better
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person to Sell the program to with guys, coming to Junior
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days, guys, coming to gain weeks guys, coming, two weeks in the,
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in the offseason. All right?
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So you got a guy who pretty much his entire family played here,
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pretty much. He had been on campus since 2002
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until he and his brother Greg, say, whatever like years he took
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a brief break while he went and ran track.
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And then he came to her. Ginny sack and played wide
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receiver for us and then played the NFL for a little bit and now
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he's back here with us after a brief stint with looks like,
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well, it was a college up in information up there in
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Michigan, the essential Mission. Yeah, he was so he was like,
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okay, yes, let me that's, you know, again, I can't think of a
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better better family representative to be to be that
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point of contact on campus on those days for those, those
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recruits Corey. And as far as wins, I mean, I
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really liked him. We always talked about how much
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we liked him when he was a player here.
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And you know it looks like he's got some experience that he's
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bringing to the table as well and it's nice for him to get
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some power, five experience at his alma mater, doing doing this
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type of role so I'm looking forward to see what he can do
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there. He's already been active on
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Twitter, engaging with fans and engaging with people that are
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talking smack from other teams which I like to see.
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I like to see so it should be fun.
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Having him on his Well, so I'm really looking forward to seeing
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what both of these guys are able to do absolutely Cory.
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You mentioned, the ga stop at the central Michigan.
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He also had done a brief internship down in Maryland with
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the athletic program and he also had done like, at the nflpa
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Collegiate Bowl. One of the, like, Senior Bowl
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games, he had done some work with that back in 2018 as well.
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So he's definitely, he's kind of built up his way, convey, a
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Winslow. Right out of college 2014.
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He coached dbe's up at Stone Bridge up in Northern Virginia,
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then he went out to Hawaii with his, dad was an assistant coach
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on the defensive line as like a ga, he'd been down at Brevard,
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2017, he had done associate head coach special teams coordinator
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safeties. So in the course of about six
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years, he's really worked his way up.
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And I think, as much as you talk about having Quarry in the
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perfect role you hear about, What if they do Winslow has done
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and it sounds like they got another great fit you know
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gouveia ones, undersized linebacker when he was with Tech
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playing the whip, he was a good player, he's very smart player,
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he has coached defensive back. He's coached safeties.
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He's Coastline. He's on special teams
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coordinating. That's the kind of guy you want
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breaking down video because, you know, hey, we need to go over
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this guy. Yeah.
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And you in probably, for Coach Fuente.
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It's like I don't worry. He's Done so much on the
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defensive side of the ball. I give them paper on a guy, I
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don't care what position is. He is going to probably get in
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vertical down and say he has potential, like now we need to
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lay off this guy. So love both, love Tailwinds,
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other day. When he put up that little, the
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Carolinas and comes after he just puts up the stat line.
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It's like, yeah, you have to be quiet because he just put up
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facts. Yep.
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But if you make, Came back with we've been rebuilding the last
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four years. Yeah, you were rebuilding in
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2016 when you were ranked in the top 20.
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When we played you in blue out during the hurricane.
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Oh, fat again from fanbases hate that back stand in the way of
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arguments. So they're stubborn things, man,
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they're stubborn things. In fact I Braun let's hit one
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more topic before we move on. As of right now, the ACC, the
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SEC, and the B12 have kind of pushed off the announcements of,
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you know, what they're going to do with their season.
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I mentioned to you a little earlier.
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Fran, how many there are four teams in the SEC in the ACC that
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have robbery games every year, right?
25:09
Yeah. They want to try to keep them
25:11
together. It makes sense.
25:12
Some of those go back, I think, Georgia Tech, Georgia goes back
25:16
to like 1891. It's a long one.
25:20
Literally think making Sydney, is the only other South rivalry
25:25
game that has that sort of long-standing thing.
25:29
But Brian, that least 10 teams in the ACC, CC and the SEC.
25:35
How many teams are in the Big 12.
25:36
Now, How many man 10ml of lining up here?
25:45
No, I mean we are speculating but to me I think what they're
25:48
trying to do is they're trying to look at either 8 or 9 plus 1
25:55
or they can get at least one out of conference game.
26:00
Will it happen? Maybe maybe not.
26:01
If you know hot spots especially yet the schools have in Texas.
26:06
You got Miami and Florida State. Like some places like teens
26:11
might not want to go, but it's one of those things where, you
26:16
know, there's so many possibilities and I know a lot
26:18
of people will say, well, well, the ACC has the far north
26:22
schools, Pittsburgh and Syracuse and boss College, they do.
26:26
But they also are major Hub cities.
26:29
Like, you can get a charter plane to go from, you know,
26:34
Manhattan, Kansas State to Boston without an issue.
26:37
Yeah. You fly to Pittsburgh and go
26:39
anywhere in this country, they're big airports so that
26:42
really doesn't hurt it that much because it's easy in and easy
26:46
out. Literally, the place you get on
26:48
a plane in three hours, laying in pit, get on the bus, go in
26:51
warm up, three hours later. Start a football game bus back
26:55
to the stadium. Fly back to campus all in one
26:58
day. And I think that's what a lot of
27:00
people are really. That's what you got to keep your
27:03
eye on. Can we, if we kicked off at
27:05
3:30, if we get to the airport at 5 a.m. 24 hour flight pouches
27:11
80 mm Allen feelings. These fools are really going to
27:15
work together and say, Hey, listen.
27:17
This is where you guys can warm up.
27:20
You guys can do everything will change our routine because we
27:25
want college football to happen. We enemy, it's not really
27:29
outside of the, the realm of imagination here, either because
27:32
we're talking about under more normal circumstances, some of
27:36
these teams will be making these Traveler Arrangements,
27:39
regardless not, you know they're not everybody's playing, you
27:43
know a game that is out of conference that's, you know,
27:48
right around the corner. Some some teams are already
27:50
making those longer travels and as you mentioned logistically,
27:52
it's not really that big of a deal in terms of getting from
27:56
the middle of the country, even to Boston for like an am
27:59
travelling to BC or something like that.
28:01
So I definitely think it's doable.
28:04
The question is Will they end up setting something up?
28:10
Where I think the local Logistics are going to be the
28:13
harder part than the travel Logistics.
28:15
Yeah. And if they can make the local
28:17
Logistics work, I think they'll probably try to get something
28:20
done. Absolutely boundary Corner
28:24
podcast listeners. Today we have a very special
28:27
guest with us for years. Starting offensive lineman John
28:31
McLaughlin. John, how are you doing today
28:34
man? With this crazy heat, man.
28:36
I'm doing great man. Thank y'all for having me take a
28:40
plane and I'm trying to stay inside, you know how hot it is
28:43
outside right now in Richmond. We got got that pot Richmond
28:48
weather right now. Yeah, Man I couldn't imagine
28:53
running out right now. You know, my girlfriend told me
28:55
I need to start writing outside. So no no little baseball for we
29:05
were like 20 minutes in like he's soaked and I'm so it's
29:08
like, oh yeah. Right now this time of year is
29:11
not fun. Exactly.
29:13
Exactly. We really appreciate you joining
29:15
us here on Mister Fallon. It's awesome to have you.
29:20
I'm sure. Brian's all to.
29:22
We got kind of a reason we reached out to you bugger fine.
29:27
Go ahead, man. Because this is this is a cool
29:29
connection for us. Yeah.
29:31
So you know, full disclosures we brought you on the podcast, you
29:35
know, not just because you're one of my favorite line when
29:37
they played in the last decade for the Hokies.
29:39
Okay. Okay.
29:40
And not Accounts at the, you know, the four-year starter on
29:43
the on the offensive line there. And the only the first true
29:46
freshman, the started left tackle for Beamer, those are
29:49
great, things are true and a good Reason to have you on.
29:53
But the, the biggest fear is the sum of the Southside connection
29:56
Southside, Virginia connection. You got with some of your family
29:59
members there and the RV, a connection that we've got now,
30:02
too. So that was the big reason we
30:04
wanted to have you on. I was I was telling Curtis when
30:06
we were kind of spitballing earlier.
30:08
I actually played in high school against Orion when he was young.
30:13
Wow. Okay.
30:15
Yeah. So that's all right.
30:21
As well. So definitely, most definitely I
30:23
got family all in their area, man.
30:25
So runs a good friend of mine and get, you know, also
30:29
obviously my cousin but he's definitely helped me with my
30:32
decision to come and attack. So it was a key name right there
30:35
around the camera, man. Yeah, for us is Hokies.
30:39
It was like, yeah, and I never knew that and Brian brought it
30:42
up and it was like at asked him the other week.
30:44
I'm like, the Brian played guard him like Bron Jennifer have to
30:47
deal with Orion. He's like, not, he was on edge.
30:51
And with one of his teammates hopefully Chris picked up in the
30:54
end up going to Clemson. Gotcha gotcha as a big dude and
31:02
bronze sword arms didn't help out a lot.
31:05
But yeah, I really appreciate you being here but John you know
31:09
everybody that's been a hockey fan anytime the last 10 years
31:14
remembers you the four-year starter The Freshman starter but
31:18
we know you went out to the Arizona Cardinals for a while
31:21
but Wasn't even up to since then.
31:24
So last year's actually moved to Richmond.
31:27
Virginia definitely has two connections with going to Tech.
31:30
I majored in Property Management, Effigy attack.
31:33
So I was able to, you know, have some connections here in
31:35
Richmond and Rich was definitely growing city.
31:39
I still got some buddies. I hang out with, you know, I see
31:41
Sam Rogers from time to time Nigel.
31:44
So when I first moved here it was literally like being in
31:46
college again. Y'all hang out and I'm like, I
31:49
can't get away from you guys. But that's what I'm doing.
31:52
Now, working at Dodson property manager right now.
31:55
Assistant property manager at doctor right now.
31:58
Awesome. Awesome.
31:59
Very cool. Very cool man.
32:00
Yeah, yeah. We, we always talk about all the
32:03
kind of the RV, a contact. So we have from from going and
32:06
seeing games and things like that.
32:08
So, it's gonna connect a little bit more with some other Hokies
32:11
around this area. So that's awesome.
32:12
Most definitely, most definitely.
32:14
Hey, you got it. My man, Brian here.
32:16
He's on, Mechanicsville, I'm out in the West End, what?
32:19
Part of the r-va Yemen. So, I'm in the He's got
32:22
apartment in the Manchester area.
32:24
Oh my God. Yeah, you have some about five
32:27
minutes from work and you know, I'm still young so he still hit
32:31
the town a little bit. So it's not too far from any,
32:33
you know, everything and James River is literally right there.
32:36
So it's a good time, man. I'm enjoying.
32:38
I'm doing my time here in Richmond, for sure.
32:40
Yeah, that's my walk into work actually.
32:41
Work downtown and for VCU. So, okay.
32:44
Okay. Actually Park on Mayo Island
32:47
there and walk walk into the city.
32:49
So, I'm like passionately towards you there.
32:51
They go, they got you got you. All right.
32:54
So this episode we kind of wanted to focus in on some of
32:58
the things like fall cancers. We got fall Camp coming up even
33:01
though we don't know what's kind of with that Seasons going to
33:04
look like yet, right? But we know players are back
33:08
starting to get after it. So I just wanted to ask you man,
33:11
what were some of those weeks leading up to fall camp like for
33:14
you where you kind of just grinding trying to get that
33:16
conditioning up or what was it? Like yeah, we were so I give you
33:20
a little Your little history here and what we used to do in
33:23
Blacksburg. So we were there all summer,
33:26
there were no students, it was football, you literally work
33:30
out, you have maybe two classes and then you're done for the
33:33
day. So it's it was a little
33:35
different grind. You get up, get your workout
33:37
done, but we all knew can't was coming.
33:40
So, you know, we couldn't get used to that lifestyle because
33:44
we were just really good to it. So, as soon as I would say, we,
33:49
you know, did I run tests and everything like that?
33:51
We knew okay Camp is about to come.
33:54
You heard a little chirping lock Room?
33:56
Everybody excited. Ready to put on finally gets put
33:58
on pads, get the practice. Um but yeah, I would say it was
34:02
definitely exciting just to finally get done with just work
34:07
it out and finally get to football.
34:09
Awesome awesome. So once Camp got going, what was
34:13
your favorite thing about it? Who's your least favorite thing
34:16
about it. So maybe an officer Simon, my
34:20
favorite thing. About Camp.
34:21
Every year was the food, man. They, they fed us so much and
34:29
the Mills were crazy. We not think the first day of
34:33
camp when we reported it was always like a steak dinner and
34:36
you know, just it was just amazing.
34:38
So every day was he was expected to eat good.
34:42
The least being I would say would be the long nights, we
34:45
would probably have to be up at 5:00 and we was at the facility
34:50
to about 10 You know, if you he was a freshman, you definitely
34:53
rather silly to about 10 or you can go, you know, to the dorms.
34:57
But if you lived off campus, I got.
34:58
Did you kind of stay put and step in locker room?
35:01
And you know, you could even have that much time between
35:04
meetings treatment meals, you know, weights.
35:09
So that that day is just the longest day ever.
35:13
And you start lose the count of, you know, what day it is,
35:16
because you just go through that cycle.
35:18
You know, waking up eating meetings practice.
35:22
Lift. It's just at one point.
35:23
You just like, what day is it? We got three present, you gotta
35:27
lift. You gotta get in.
35:28
Yeah man. It was difficult.
35:32
Yeah, it was difficult but I would say I was.
35:35
There were probably my least favorite the long nights that
35:39
after practice we would have some, you know, someone can talk
35:41
to us or some type of meeting and then you have to go to
35:43
meetings out there. So you have to practice, you
35:47
know, that happens and then you got those meetings with someone
35:51
You know, comes talk to you very, you know, gives a great
35:54
information, whatever they had, you know, whoever was speaking
35:56
that day and then you go get yelled at in meeting so it's
35:59
like oh man you know so it was an older gentleman.
36:03
It's wrong of days but it was definitely worth it.
36:06
My yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah, if not yourself who was
36:12
like your teammate that was just like the most jacked up that,
36:16
like, if you had to be like, calm down, you know what's
36:19
coming, right? Well, right off the bat.
36:23
That is why it teller is. The first person that comes to
36:25
mind dead kid was always just ready, man.
36:29
Just everyday. That's honestly, probably the
36:32
one that got us through all, through Camp, his energy and way
36:35
he just up at 5:00 a.m. just, you know, he'll come your locker
36:40
talking, like all white man, you know, he was definitely it was
36:44
definitely one person that was jacked up and I will also say
36:47
the all the dbe's they love to talk, you know, DB.
36:51
He's like the like the run their mouths so they were probably the
36:55
ones jacked up and I'm sitting here like you know you guys
36:58
don't really hitting practice so you don't understand why you're
37:01
excited about this part you know.
37:03
But I was no deficit, widened BB's for sure.
37:06
Now. Yeah, we got we got to let them
37:08
know John, you know, even when it's you know, three quarters
37:11
for everybody else lime and always going full speed, they
37:15
always hit No.1. All the PBS have come to
37:20
Virginia. I can tell you the guys who were
37:22
the, I can definitely just see them, just chirping and just
37:26
say, but I can feel you in there like 5:00 in the morning, like,
37:30
I'm trying to get it going. Oh, God, you're a Muslim to
37:38
talk, man, but they're breathing energy to practice, you know,
37:41
you like, you like competing against them.
37:43
They, I would say they probably got the most competitive group
37:46
on the field, just because they can run your mouth.
37:51
Yes. Sometimes you know somebody says
37:53
something you get you jacked up and just kind of getting all
37:59
right. So next thing I know this is
38:01
this is kind of close to my heart and it kind of goes back
38:03
to kind of what you were talking about with all the good food.
38:06
What's the most weight you lost in the single practice in a
38:10
single practice? Wow, so it probably was during
38:12
Camp, I would say. So I'm not sure if I single
38:16
practice but I my freshman year I did come to Camp overweight.
38:21
That's what Jim Brown's is. My coach.
38:23
Okay, leading up to Camp. He's like, how on Earth did you
38:27
come to Camp overweight with all of this ring?
38:30
You guys that I was like coach. Honestly, I've been eating
38:33
anything I want. Like you said you got that all
38:36
time, you don't know what to do, what I was doing with eating.
38:41
We had a thing called fat camp. We had to go to my, my freshman
38:45
year. I he's put it just, for me, it
38:47
was me and the da after every practice, and I lost I lost
38:50
about I think I I was came in at 315, terrible weight at the
38:56
camp. I was probably 30 5, so I lost
38:58
15 pounds. Okay.
39:00
Yeah, I could cut in like three or four weeks behind.
39:04
Holy, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was.
39:06
It's a lot, man. It's a lot.
39:09
Let me ask this because you talked about camp.
39:11
And, you know, we talked about cutting the way and, you know,
39:15
clearly you have the drills and then you have, you know, you
39:18
start doing some inter-squad and stuff like that.
39:20
But was there any point in time during can't be like, saw the
39:22
light at the end of the tunnel where you kind of knew like, was
39:25
it, like, just a good installation was where like, you
39:28
know, okay camps about to be over.
39:30
We're about to go play a game like your last season you guys
39:35
were versus Liberty right here. Remember like, It's time, yes,
39:43
yep. So what would be my first three
39:44
years? You always knew when media de
39:47
Road around and it that fan appreciation day comes around
39:51
you like, okay. It's, you know, it's the seasons
39:54
about to be here. There are some events that the
39:56
whole team had to go to as far as, you know, signing and
39:59
everything like that. And I know we did an event with
40:03
all the sports, all the seniors on the field, but the football
40:06
team was already there. So, During that time would be
40:10
more, you knew that? You know, they're just teasing
40:12
me was about to begin every year.
40:14
That was kind of like you know at the end of the tunnel saying
40:16
okay camps almost over. We only got maybe four more
40:18
practices. Let's push through it.
40:20
Me today is done, you know. So that I would say that was
40:24
definitely towards the end with Flint.
40:27
A is a little different. I would, we do.
40:31
I know, I think he still does it the Saturday before your first
40:35
game. So that previous week, you do I
40:38
think? Mark game takes you.
40:41
He takes you through exactly everything.
40:43
You're going to do the day before the game and everything
40:46
you do on game day. It and I would say my game is
40:49
seared more serious than the actual game because I'm gonna
40:53
RTI first year, you know, we thinking we, we actually did the
40:57
whole thing. We went to Hotel, Roanoke, and
41:00
did everything everything, you know, had meals, everything.
41:03
They were supposed to do the week before we did that or the
41:07
week after, sorry, for that week.
41:09
One we did that. So you knew all right.
41:11
The season about to start, you know it's an n and then we start
41:14
doing the game prep literally that day after my game.
41:19
Thanks. I've also, yeah, we did
41:21
something similar. We always had a, we would go and
41:24
stay at a hotel, just outside of town, and then we come back in
41:27
and kind of treat it like a game day, but we still have, you
41:30
know, I kind of inter-squad experiments on that Saturday as
41:34
well kind of something just to kind of say, alright.
41:35
Can't sober. Yeah.
41:37
Inter-squad actually hit hit one versus one's a little bit and
41:40
then you don't actually have a day or two off to kind of settle
41:44
into the normal game week there other than watching some film or
41:48
something like. So yeah, that that school to
41:50
here. That's awesome.
41:54
So you talked about, you know, being a part of the Beamer in
41:56
the ink and then being with Coach Fuente and obviously with
42:00
the new regime you got a new coach.
42:02
So what type of things did the coach Vice bring to the table of
42:05
that? Kind of helps.
42:06
You continue your success. So so the code advice was a
42:09
little different than my previous coaches with G and
42:14
cereals. I was, I would say, I was a
42:15
young player, so there was always someone odor.
42:18
But by Ice, literally, let me in Auggie have the room, we, you
42:22
know, took control of meeting. Sometimes he was there, he was
42:25
there, you know, he talked to play book, I want to say, they
42:29
probably got there in February of 2016 by March, we all need to
42:33
play book. I honestly would say Vice was
42:37
extremely smart, he has like 34 degrees in what?
42:42
I don't know, but that, you know, he has them there on the
42:44
wall, but he was really smart with break.
42:48
Down film. It was a different way to how we
42:51
study. You know, I think by Stephanie
42:55
brought that to the table, he kind of taught us how to lead.
42:57
Just because he let us do it. Like I said it was, you know,
43:01
there was a players that were older than me.
43:02
So they were kind of taking it over and in the room but my
43:07
senior year, he definitely let me know if you have it.
43:09
So I would say definitely learn leadership from him and as well
43:14
as you know, how to break down film and Defenders.
43:19
Stands and all that stuff. He bought a lot of those little
43:21
tricks to the room. Awesome, awesome.
43:25
Okay, do you think a situation like that?
43:30
Where you know, you kind of passing leadership a little bit
43:33
to the locker room? You think that's something that
43:34
will work with all rooms or was that something that was a
43:37
benefit because having having two guys that have been there
43:40
and had all their starts under their belt so that he felt he
43:43
could do. I think, I think that that
43:45
experience definitely help with me and argue having the most
43:48
experience in the room. But that was a general thing
43:52
with that new coaching staff that came in.
43:54
Take literally, he met with all the seniors and told us that
43:58
this is your team. We met we met with him almost
44:01
every week and that was just something different that he
44:04
brought to the table because, you know, he was he wanted us to
44:08
know that you guys are on the field together.
44:10
So I want you guys leaving it because when things get rough,
44:14
they're going to listen to you. I can you know talk to I'm blue
44:17
in the face but this is your team and it was only nine of us.
44:21
So right off the Jump we had that communication.
44:24
He wanted to, you know, gain our trust, we wanted to gain his
44:27
because it was a new coach. We, yes, we had Beamer for three
44:30
years. So I think all of that whole
44:33
team, it was all about letting The Stingers lead and that, you
44:37
know, that trickled down to the to the years after his well.
44:41
Okay, well, that is something awesome to hear that you get
44:46
comes in there and trust you guys to leave and I'm nuts.
44:51
That's a learning experience. I mean, for anybody, Brian, He
44:54
played football and I've been in corporate world, you have a
44:56
leader, come in and do that for you.
44:58
It makes you feel good because you know, they trust you there
45:04
is some technical stuff. Does you went play left tackle
45:07
three years coach, Vice comes in.
45:09
You switch to, right? Tackle, what is the biggest
45:12
difference in a change like that?
45:14
Because I don't know. I'm not the football.
45:17
Guy bronze, the football guy, he's doing for played
45:19
collegiately. I'm just a fan from like that
45:22
happens. Like, what?
45:23
What's the Difference for you as a player?
45:26
Well, I was, I would say it. Definitely helps you more than
45:30
it can hurt you because it allows you to learn the whole
45:35
scheme. You're not just playing one
45:37
position. Now, you have to switch
45:39
everything your head. So when cereals came in my
45:42
sophomore year, he moved me to write.
45:45
And then my junior, I play right and left.
45:48
So, I was able to learn the Playbook completely and see
45:52
different things that I wouldn't see on the right that I saw her.
45:54
Left, if that makes sense. You know I was thankful that
45:58
that happened because I wasn't just stuck on one position and
46:01
when I either got the Arizona I was able to get more reps at
46:04
left and right because you know you have to be versatile if you
46:08
know want to play. So it was able to I was able to
46:11
get more film on the left and right.
46:14
So it would be you kind of help more more than hurting.
46:17
So I like the way you mentioned about learning both sides again,
46:24
the guy here with me he's taught me a lot and as long as we've
46:28
been friends who didn't print 20 plus years mature, gone and any
46:33
sound like on game day, I'm like texting.
46:35
And why did they do that? If he explains it on, like my
46:37
phone down. So it's really good to hear that
46:43
because I can see it from different views understanding
46:46
and learning deeper into the play.
46:48
A book when you say that it's also, right?
46:50
And when coach advice came in, he was deaf.
46:53
He was big on that. Everyone playing all positions,
46:57
not since you have to play sinner, but want to go guy goes
47:00
down, I mean that other person is next man up.
47:03
So he wanted all five of us to be able to learn all positions
47:09
and be able to, you know, be versatile and only office
47:11
supply. He wanted his best five out
47:13
there at any given time regardless of whatever that's
47:16
going on. Yeah, I got you.
47:18
Let's talk about that a little bit.
47:20
Since we're, you know, we talked a lot about camp and some of
47:22
your experiences. Let's talk about the currency in
47:25
a little bit. How do you feel about the
47:26
current state of the offensive line at Virginia Tech?
47:29
And I'm excited about these guys, they're young and like I
47:33
said they've all played looks like last year.
47:36
I was kind of looking and you saw a different number in there
47:39
literally every week and I think that's big for an offensive line
47:43
that the whole group can play and the injury injury is going
47:47
to happen in college football world.
47:48
We know that it's unfortunate, but the next man's up and bites,
47:52
definitely challenged us every week that the first file, that
47:57
doesn't mean anything. There's somebody that can take
47:59
that spot that next week. So that was a little different
48:02
seeing that too. So it brought some competition
48:05
in the room and we, you know, some people started one game and
48:10
some people did in the next game, we understood, it's just
48:12
all you know, matters with that that we can practice okay and
48:15
there brings their brains competition out of everyone.
48:19
That's awesome. Yeah, I really liked what I saw.
48:21
Was some of the ways that you, as the season went on, they
48:24
started you know, mixing matching some of the lime and
48:26
try to get the best best five out there.
48:29
And you know, I think the result is that we're going into 2020.
48:33
Hopefully as the season can happen the way we want. 25
48:38
relatively season guys even though they're young and then
48:40
you got a broke off and coming in there after missing last year
48:44
because of everything that was going on with the NCAA.
48:47
So, I think it could really be a big year for them.
48:49
You know, we probably got seven or eight guys that could you
48:52
know, legitimately see the starting lineup at some point in
48:55
the season. Exactly.
48:56
I'm really excited about that Rockhopper, man.
48:59
I'm excited to see what he has. All the coaching staff has been
49:03
raving about them saying that they can't wait to get him on
49:05
the field, so I'm excited to see him, you know, put that into
49:10
action. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting
49:12
seeing what they do with the shift there because, you know,
49:13
you know, he's played center. He's played guard, you know.
49:16
Is he gonna slide in its Center? Is he going to say, Right,
49:19
right? Are they going to do with it?
49:20
I definitely think you're going to, you know, get on the field
49:22
and show us something pretty big.
49:24
There was that I just like the way you talk about, what coach B
49:29
does about playing. All the positions in.
49:32
Everybody got the Reps last year because of that a lot safiye and
49:35
you just mentioned it. Now you're going in and saying,
49:38
hey white guard will commit, that's fine.
49:41
We going, we're going to steep, we're going to keep rolling to
49:43
keep running our offense. We're not going to have to worry
49:46
about that position being Any less right in in as somebody
49:53
that watched his men. People can say, oh, best wide,
49:57
receiver best quarterbacks. Hmm, I want the best offensive
50:00
line most definitely. Yep, you know, man, you got
50:06
y'all know when y'all were dominating people, how exactly
50:09
could take the will in I'll tell you the game I remember and I'm
50:14
comfortable personal side here run you were at that game when
50:17
you Down it dude. Don't get that pump late.
50:20
Y'all are deep. Y'all literally drove them off
50:24
the ball and you it was about acting like the second person.
50:27
There will was gone. They just like we're not getting
50:31
this ball that they are matter. Yep.
50:33
Yep. Yep.
50:35
Ah man. I got chills thinking about that
50:37
because you know as a team fight there's me this.
50:42
Don't want to see that offensive line walk on the field and I'm
50:45
definitely that's correct. Yeah right now, let me see.
50:48
Say this because let's shift a little bit to this season, you
50:50
know, when the coach is you being a former player, you know,
50:54
we're looking at is probably going to be an all-conference
50:56
with maybe one additional out of conference game.
50:59
Maybe one cross conference. You think this is going to
51:02
change of how this particular coaching staff.
51:04
Like, how they're going to approach the seasons.
51:09
I don't think it'll change. I think because honestly, you
51:13
know, with what they came, he was all about ACC play.
51:15
Anyway. I mean he would be Pair for the
51:18
games but what was most important was our conference
51:22
when the our Compass was most important.
51:24
And at the end of the day that, you know, as a football team,
51:26
that's what you want to do is when your conference and then
51:28
you take the next step of. So I think, I think it'll, I
51:33
think he'll enjoy that more being able to, you know, get
51:36
into conference play. If they do, they always, you
51:38
know, just to always seek a games.
51:41
But I think you do have to kind of prepare for all circumstances
51:46
because you just don't know, you know, right?
51:48
Everything is unknown. And once he's definitely big on
51:51
controlling, what you can control, I know he's in the
51:54
present right now, trying to get them, boys, ready for a season
51:58
until you know, said otherwise. So, it is kind of difficult as a
52:01
coach as a player. You just don't know what's going
52:03
to happen. As soon as they have that
52:05
decision, I have no doubt. They'll be ready.
52:09
That's awesome. Yeah I like I said until we know
52:11
what's going to happen. It's going to, you got to
52:13
approach it. Like whatever is in front of
52:16
you, got to just scratch full steam ahead.
52:18
Got to got to take it one day at a time when we can a Time One
52:20
game at a time. So right, right.
52:22
So I know everybody has it, whether it's a, whether it's a
52:25
game that just something really memorable happen or, you know,
52:29
you graded out the best or whatever it is.
52:31
But what was your most memorable game you played as a hokey?
52:34
All right, so I have to and wanting to be marijuana in a
52:38
point there. Okay.
52:40
The first one would be Alabama. That was my first game as a
52:44
college athlete. They just came up with a
52:47
national championship. Oh my, that was, that was my
52:50
freshman year and we're in the Georgia Dome, we're playing.
52:55
And I'm just like, I'm first of all, we get on the field.
52:59
I'm just like, what are these boys eating?
53:03
They were huge. They were, I was just like,
53:08
yeah, I'm about to play them as a freshman, you know, this is
53:10
crazy. So that definitely gave me
53:12
confidence doing this season and didn't throw him over career.
53:15
Just say I played the best my first game ever.
53:19
Yeah, so I can definitely compete from here on now.
53:21
You know, this Alabama is top tier program, them guys being
53:26
you know, so big and not, you know, I did pretty well, we lost
53:29
the game but that's definitely one of the games.
53:33
I remember one of my, you know, best games that I could think of
53:38
an era and then the second one would be UVA.
53:41
My senior every year, we were really close to UVA.
53:46
Maybe about a field goal will be them, barely beat them and then
53:50
just to beat them by, you know, 5210 there we go.
53:54
That was that was a great feeling man.
53:56
So not only do, we have the cup? We also want to coaster that
53:59
year too. So that was probably, you know,
54:03
one of my best games out that I remember, that's awesome.
54:06
Yeah, kept the Go and get the, get the cup and I got to put it
54:10
on UVA as a senior. Ain't nothing better than that.
54:12
Nothing better than that right there.
54:14
I tell you now the home game to that year wasn't it was even
54:20
sweet memory banks to that. And that Alabama, you talk about
54:25
their Alabama, man. I mean that was like John Allen,
54:29
I don't think pain. I mean just off the magic and I
54:35
give y'all credit because y'all fall thought that game so hard.
54:39
It was one of those things watching it at home.
54:40
It's like we're not going to quit.
54:42
Right, right. Like they're going to have to
54:45
knock us out. We won't.
54:46
We're not going to lay down on me but I remember that game.
54:49
3:30 kick. Yeah.
54:52
Well you know you were under coach Beamer and say is there
55:04
anything that either of those guys did or said that?
55:07
Stuck with you on just maybe not from maybe a football sample.
55:10
Magista like Point, yes, most definitely they both.
55:15
I will start with Beamer. I'll go back to the freshman
55:18
year. He came up to me right before
55:20
they game and asked me, you know, asked me if I was ready
55:24
and I was like, of course coach. I'm ready.
55:26
And he told me that game that you've prepared for this
55:30
opportunity, your preparation has made you ready for this
55:33
opportunity? And I take that to me today.
55:37
That, you know, you have to be prepared for your opportunity.
55:40
That's in life, anything, you do?
55:43
You know your next opportunity will come, you just have to be
55:46
prepared for it. It was it was simple.
55:48
He didn't you know, he's a man of few words but I never really
55:51
stuck with me with you know him coming to a freshman.
55:53
At didn't tell me that you're ready, you know, we trust you.
55:56
We're you we we saw what you've done.
55:59
I'll Camp never just go play again with went a it was
56:03
similar. He used to say all the time play
56:06
the next play. So meaning, you know, you get
56:10
beat One play, you still got more place to go and that's the
56:14
same thing in life as well. I'll take that with me every day
56:17
when I'm at work. I think about things, you know,
56:19
things that obstacles that come through.
56:21
You have to play the next place. You have to get yourself up and
56:23
get ready for what's next. You can't, you know, just be on
56:27
that one. Play that just happened.
56:29
You have to put an extra. Yeah.
56:31
Don't don't let a pass them beat you this down.
56:34
Get was definitely, yep. That's it.
56:36
That's it. It absolutely John.
56:42
We really thank you for joining us today.
56:44
Muslim again, we want to thank John McLaughlin for joining us
56:49
today. Hey Brian, we talked about it
56:51
again in the program about with the conference could look like
56:54
we mentioned it to John about how you think the coaches will
56:56
prepare. But let me ask you this if the
56:58
acnc goes to an eight game schedule, but let's say it makes
57:02
some sort of agreement with the SEC in the Big 12 to play one
57:06
out. Conference game.
57:08
Who do you want that out of conference opponent to be?
57:11
Oh man, that's a good question. Let's see, give me.
57:16
Give me Jimbo Fisher in the Texas, A&M Aggies.
57:20
Let's let's go out there. Maybe or they can come visit us
57:23
and we can figure out something else will not Jimbo down in a
57:27
couple notches after some of the troubles he's had the last
57:30
couple years. So people kick a man while he's
57:33
down kick a man while he's down. Solutely.
57:37
I will I think I'm towing here on because I want revenge on
57:43
that ugly orange down in Knoxville, I want revenge.
57:47
We should have turned the ball over that many times back at
57:49
Bristol and they still chirp about it.
57:53
But then there's that team over in West, Virginia that buddy
58:01
when we were in school, you deal with nasty.
58:05
We never got to, I never got Go to, and I can't remember if you
58:08
have or not, but you know what? We took them down up at FedEx
58:12
and we got them in a few years. Let's give them.
58:14
Give me Tennessee, give me Tennessee.
58:16
Okay, okay. All right.
58:18
So Ron anything else to put a bow on this tonight?
58:23
Now think we did pretty good here buddy.
58:26
Awesome. Well that's going to wrap up
58:27
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58:30
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