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Ghislaine Maxwell And The Deposition That Led To Her Downfall (Part 8) (5/15/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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  In this episode, we're gonna pick up right where we
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  left off with the Glad Maxwell deposition. So let's just
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  get right back to it, shall we. McCauley, let's go
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  to the next page, which is going to be redacted.
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  I want you to look out line, so the date
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  is at the top, so it's redacted, and if you
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  go down, you will see a line that says though redacted.
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  And if you scroll over you will see PBI to TIST.
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  If you look at the airport codes, TIST is going
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  to be representative for the US Virgin Islands, and then
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  you will see the list on the plane je GM
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  redacted and Virginia Roberts. Do you recall flying from Palm
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  Beach to the US Virgin Islands with Jeffrey yourself redacted
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  and Virginia Roberts. Mister Pagliuca, I object to the form,
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  and just so the record is clear, we don't agree
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  with whatever your characterization are. The document speaks for itself
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  and she can answer based on whatever her personal knowledge is. McCauley,
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  I understand. McCauley, do you recall flying with those individuals?
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  From Palm Beach to the US virgin Islands. Glenn Maxwell,
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  I have no recollection of any individual flights you are
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  pointing out here. You are talking about two thousand and one.
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  How many years ago is that? McCauley responds to that.
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  I'm asking the questions. Maxwell. I'm not being difficult. I'm
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  just asking it's like fourteen fifteen years ago. It's impossible.
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  I'm sorry McCauley. So your testimony is you don't recall
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  flying on that flight with Virginia Roberts. Maxwell. I cannot
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  testify to that flight, McCauley. Let's look at the next flight,
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  which is on the redacted from the virgin Islands back
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  to Palm Beach, Jaye, Jeffrey Epstein, Glen Maxwell, redacted, Virginia Roberts.
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  The same individuals on the above flight. Maxwell. It doesn't
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  say my name, it has some initials. McCauley, I understand
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  the initials. GM. Do you recall flying on a plane
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  on one of Jeffrey's planes from the virgin Islands the
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  Palm Beach with Virginia Roberts Maxwell? I do not, McCauley.
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  Was there any other person that flew with Jeffrey Epstein
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  with frequency during that time period in these logs that
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  have the initials GM. Mister Pagliuca objection to the form
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  and the foundation, Maxwell, I would have to look at
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  all the flight logs. I have no idea I flew frequently. McCauley.
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  Why don't you take a look at the next three
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  pages and see if that refreshes your recollection. Mister Pagliuca,
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  you are talking about redacted Miss McCauley. She can pick
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  any couple of pages. Those have a lot of the
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  individuals on them, so that is a good sampling, mister Pagliuca,
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  So pick any pages you want, McCauley. Does that refresh
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  your record election at all? As to whether GM represents
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  you or some other individuals? Maxwell, again, I can't testify
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  whether that represents me or not. I don't see any
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  other gms. But you have to understand that even if
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  my name is on that record, that doesn't mean I
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  was on the flight. Just interject here, well, what does
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  it mean? Then? You vile, disgusting, bipedal serpent McCauley. So
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  are you contesting the accuracy of the flight logs? In
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  other words, you said it doesn't represent you or on
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  the flight, So is it your testimony Just because the
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  name is listed doesn't mean they were actually on the flight.
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  Mister Pagliuca objection to the form and the foundation. Maxwell,
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  I can't testify to what these are records that were
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  produced by redacted is on here, So these aren't federally
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  mandated records, So I can't testify to what he produced. McCauley,
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  I would like you to turn to pay at the bottom.
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  The bait's number is redacted and the month is redacted. Maxwell. Okay, McCauley.
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  If you go down to the number that is redacted,
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  that would be redacted, you're going to see on that
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  line and redacted, which is a redacted, and then you
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  will see redacted, which is going to be I'm going
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  to pronounce it incorrectly redacted. I'm sure I'm not pronouncing
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  that correctly. Then you will see in the list you
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  will see je GM redacted, redacted, redacted. It looks like
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  Maxwell interjects, I believe it, says Mail McCauley. Yes, then redacted.
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  I believe is that GM on this page representative of you? Maxwell? Well,
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  this would be a flight that I would potentially remember
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  with redacted on it, but I don't actually recall going
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  to Russia. McCauley, are those your initials? Do you recall
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  being on that flight? Maxwell? Those are my initials with redacted.
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  I don't recall this flight either, but I would be
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  more likely to if I had a bit more time
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  to study the timing of this. McCauley, your testimony is
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  you don't recall flying with redacted from redacted to redacted Maxwell,
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  I don't recall the redacted to redacted flight. I have
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  definitely flown with redacted. McCauley. On that same page, you
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  will see beneath there, beneath twenty two, you will see
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  the indication same as above, same as above, same as above,
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  in the column that originally had the initials Maxwell, Yeah,
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  McCauley and the names Maxwell, Uh huh. McCauley, do you
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  recall flying with redacted and redacted from redacted to redacted Maxwell,
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  I do, McCauley, So the GM that would be represented
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  in that column would be you, Maxwell, I recall going
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  to redacted with redacted, so that is likely to be me. McCauley,
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  So you were on Jeffrey's plane for that trip, Maxwell,
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  I believe I was McCauley, do you know who redacts
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  it is? Maxwell? I do not, McCauley. I'm going back
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  towards the front, which is going to be redacted, please,
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  and you're going to see Maxwell, hang on, I'm not McCauley.
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  Take your time. Maxwell, Okay, McCauley. You are going to
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  see in the day column you will see redacted, and
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  then about halfway down you will see redacted. Then you
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  will see the redacted, which is the column which is
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  where I want you to start looking at the log
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  and there you're going to see a whole bunch of redacted. Maxwell. Okay, McCauley.
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  If you look at the column, if you go back
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  up to the top on the redacted, if you look
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  at the column, you will see je GM redacted, Virginia
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  Roberts and I believe it says redacted. Sorry, I'm not
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  reading that very well. Do you recall flying from if
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  you see the dates the redacted, do you recall a
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  trip that went from the United States to redacted and
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  to the places I just mentioned where Virginia Roberts was
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  on the plane with you, mister Packley, objection to the
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  form and the foundation, Maxwell, I already testified that I
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  don't recall Virginia on any of these flights. McCauley, I
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  would like to mark is Maxwell seven. I will put
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  it at the top Maxwell Exhibit seven photo marked four identification.
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  Mister Pagliuca, has this document been produced in discovery? Ms McCauley, yes,
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  mister Pagliuca. Do you have a BAITS number, Miss McCauley,
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  This one doesn't. Ms McCauley, I'm going to ask you
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  to this. Pagliuca interjects, I don't recall seeing this document,
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  so I would like to see a BAITS number document
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  before we ask questions about it. McCauley. Can you go
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  look for it and I will continue. We will set
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  that aside until we get the BAITS number. You may
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  want to leave that log up and set it to
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  the side and we will bounce back to that. McCauley.
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  Do you recall, I think earlier you said you visited
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  Jeffrey's Island. I think they called it Saint Jeffrey or
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  Saint James, the US virgin Island Home. Maxwell, yes, Saint James. McCauley.
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  Do you recall whether redacted was ever on that island?
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  Maxwell categorically definitively, absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt
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  when I was present or any other time that I
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  am aware of, was redacted ever on that island. I
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  do not believe he went to that island ever. Ever.
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  That is an absolute fabrication and an absolute, flat out lie. McCauley,
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  was redacted ever at Jeffrey Epstein's homes when you were
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  present other than the island, I know you said that
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  did not happen the home in either New York or
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  Palm Beach or New Mexico. Maxwell, I do not believe
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  at any time Redacted was at any of Jeffrey's homes.
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  I have absolutely no knowledge or otherwise that he was
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  ever there. My guess is they're talking about Clinton here. McCauley,
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  you don't recall having dinner with him at any of
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  those homes. Maxwell, Again, Virginia is absolutely total lying. This
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  is the subject of defamation about Virginia and the lies
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  she has told, And one of the lies she told
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  was that President Clinton was on the island where I
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  was president. Absolutely one thousand percent. That is a flat out,
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  total fabrication and the lie. Just to add here, we
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  have other witnesses who have said they saw Bill Clinton
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  on the island. So there's that. McCauley. You did fly
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  planes Jeffrey Epstein's planes with President Clinton, Is that correct? Maxwell?
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  I have flown, yes, McCauley. Would it be fair to
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  say that President Clinton and Jeffrey are friends? Maxwell? I
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  wouldn't be able to characterize it like that. No, McCauley.
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  Are they acquaintances? Maxwell? I wouldn't categorize it. McCauley. He
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  just allowed him to use his plane. Maxwell, I couldn't
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  characterize Jeffrey's relationship. McCauley. When you were on the plane
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  with Jeffrey and President Clinton, did you observe Jeffrey and
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  Clinton talking Maxwell? I'm sure they did, McCauley. Did they
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  seem friendly? Maxwell? I don't recollect. McCauley. Was Epstein one
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  of the original people that conceive the redacted mister Pagliuca
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  objection to the form and the foundation. McCauley, do you know, Maxwell,
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  I don't have I don't have any idea what you're
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  talking about. McCauley, You don't know what I'm talking about.
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  Did you ever not at one of the houses, but
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  did you ever eat dinner with Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein, Maxwell,
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  are you just talking in general anywhere? McCauley, In general? Maxwell,
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  I believe on a plane of this nature we would
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  have had a meal, McCauley, but not outside of the
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  travel on the flights Maxwell, I can't recollect having a
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  meal with them. But just so we're clear, the allegations
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  that redacted had a meal on Jeffrey's Island is one
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  hundred percent false. Meanwhile, let's not forget that the Daily
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  Beast reported that Bill Clinton angele An Maxwell had an
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  intimate meeting and a dinner together at a restaurant. So
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  is Bill Clinton ever going to be held accountable or
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  is everybody just going to go around and may pretend
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  that this dude wasn't up to his ears in Epstein? Bullshit, McCauley.
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  But he may have had a meal on Jeffrey's plane, Maxwell,
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  I'm sure he had a meal on Jeffrey's plane. McCauley.
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  Do you know how many times he flew on Jeffrey's plane? Maxwell,
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  I don't. McCauley. Do you know who redacted is? Maxwell?
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  I do, McCauley, how do you know him? Maxwell? He
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  used to work or still works for redacted McCauley, did
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  you ever have a relationship with him? Maxwell, we are
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  talking about adult, consensual relationships. It's off the record, McCauley.
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  I'm not asking what you did with him. I'm asking
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  if you ever had a relationship with him. Mister Pagliuca,
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  If you understand the term relationship, certainly you can answer that. Maxwell.
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  The fine relationship, McCauley, somebody that you would have spent
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  time together with, either seeing them in a romantic relationship
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  or Maxwell interrupts, You need to be what do you
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  mean by romantic? I was friends with redacted, but you
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  were suggesting something more, so I want to be clear
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  what you were actually asking me. McCauley. You defined it.
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  You said you were friends with them. If that's what
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  you were, that's all I need to know. While you
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  were on the trip with redacted, do you recall where
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  you stayed at these locations? In other words, would you
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  leave the jet and stay overnight at a hotel? Do
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  you have recollection of this trip? Maxwell? I recollect the trip,
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  but if you're asking me where we stayed, you can
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  see it's a very fast paced trip. It was very tiring,
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  and I don't recollect where we stayed, McCauley, do you
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  recollect if you stayed at the same place redacted stayed.
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  In other words, if you left the plane to go
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  to a hotel, did you all go together? Is your recollection? Maxwell,
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  I honestly don't recollect. No, McCauley. Part of this trip
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  we were just talking about. There is a flight that
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  it owes to Thailand. Do you remember being in Thailand?
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  Mister Pakliuka objection to the form and foundation. Maxwell, are
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  you asking me to that? Menager interrupts on the redacted trip, Maxwell,
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  are you referencing something, Menager? The part that, let me
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  make sure that I've got it here, the entry that
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  would be the Thailand would be the one. Let me
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  make sure I'm correct. I have you on the wrong page.
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  It's actually the page before it's going to be redacted,
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  and it's going to be the entry on redacted starting unredacted,
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  and then it goes down to where it has the
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  same as above to redacted. I'm saying redacted, mister Pakliuka,
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  That's what the document says. McAuley. I'm not representing the date,
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  but there it is. So the last leg of that
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  where it says same as above, has the second to last.
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  I'm sorry on the redacted redacted. Do you remember being
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  in Thailand with redacted? Maxwell? I do. McCauley, do you
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  remember what the purpose of the trip was, Maxwell, I don't. McCauley,
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  do you know whether do you recall did you stay
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  the night in Thailand? Maxwell? I don't recall. McCauley. Do
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  you recall why you went to Thailand? Maxwell, I don't recall. McCauley.
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  Who is redacted? Maxwell, She I believe was the stewardess
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  on the flight. McCauley, did she perform any massages on
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  the flight? Maxwell, I don't recollect any massages on the flight.
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  All right, folks, So we're gonna wrap up this episode
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  right here, and then next episode we'll pick up where
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  we left off. All of the information that goes with
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