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What Safety Recalls And Auction Prices Reveal About Modern Car Culture · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:03
  Don Armstrong: Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this is the one and only in real time car talk show.
• 0:09
  Don Armstrong: It's award-winning.
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  Don Armstrong: Just ahead, what the Hemings auction car sold for.
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  Don Armstrong: And recalls.
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  Don Armstrong: Later, Jeff has the racing calendar, Mars has This Week in Auto History, and I'll have the stories making automotive news headlines.
• 0:22
  Don Armstrong: Howdy, along with Mike out of this world, Mars.
• 0:25
  Don Armstrong: We always need more Jeff Zeke and I'm Dot Armstrong.
• 0:28
  Don Armstrong: Glad you could join us today.
• 0:29
  Don Armstrong: David Ainsley taking a little break.
• 0:31
  Don Armstrong: He's gearing up for our big remote broadcast coming up in Granbury, Texas.
• 0:36
  Don Armstrong: That's our next remote.
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  Don Armstrong: That's coming up in June.
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  Don Armstrong: So we're about to let's see, next month.
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  Don Armstrong: One month away.
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  Don Armstrong: There you go.
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  Mike Marrs: Yes.
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  Mike Marrs: Almost exactly.
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  Don Armstrong: So let's start with the recalls, shall we?
• 0:51
  Don Armstrong: Because um there are always enough recalls every week to fill up an entire library.
• 0:58
  Don Armstrong: And uh it's not just one automaker, it's a lot of them.
• 1:02
  Don Armstrong: Mercedes Benz, front passenger seat belt may not fasten.
• 1:05
  Don Armstrong: I guess you'll know that pretty quick, huh?
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  Don Armstrong: CLA 250 Plus, that's an EV, and the CLA 350 formatic, also an EV for 2026.
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  Don Armstrong: A rear bench seat may be missing seat legs.
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  Don Armstrong: Well, I guess you'd know that pretty much once you sat down on it, you're sitting on the floor.
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  Don Armstrong: Missing seat legs on the Ram ProMaster Van 2026.
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  Don Armstrong: Okay.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Okay, you got your back seat, you got your back bottom seat.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Okay, ship it.
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  Don Armstrong: Yeah, that's it.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Where's the legs?
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  Don Armstrong: There's no legs.
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  Don Armstrong: No legs.
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  Don Armstrong: Um blank instrument panel display.
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  Don Armstrong: Every Mercedes Benz known to America, 25 and 26.
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  Don Armstrong: There's too many to go through.
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  Don Armstrong: Look at this.
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  Don Armstrong: Look at how many there are.
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  Jeff Dziekan: You said blank, I thought it was a swear word you were blanking out.
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  Don Armstrong: No.
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  Jeff Dziekan: How they do that blank.
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  Don Armstrong: Look at that.
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  Don Armstrong: How many is that?
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  Don Armstrong: 50?
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  Don Armstrong: Something like that.
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  Don Armstrong: Anyway, so my recommendation is if you own a Mercedes-Benz from the 24 to 26 model years, I would suggest that you go to safercar.gov, put in your VIN number.
• 2:06
  Don Armstrong: Yep.
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  Don Armstrong: And if you don't know where to find that, it's in your wallet or online with your insurance man.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Yep.
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  Don Armstrong: And it's got the VIN number there, and you plug that in and it'll tell you what is recalled and what is not.
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  Don Armstrong: Now, rear view camera image may not display in the Tesla, Model 3, SX, and Y.
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  Don Armstrong: Those are several of them.
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  Don Armstrong: From 717 and also 21 to 23 miles.
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  Don Armstrong: And um the vehicle can exceed the speed rating of the tires.
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  Don Armstrong: In the RAM 2500 for 23 through 26.
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  Jeff Dziekan: 2500, that's an E-rated tire.
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  Jeff Dziekan: There could be an E-rated tire for commercial.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Anything over 2500, we would have a heavier built tire.
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  Jeff Dziekan: That's strange.
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  Mike Marrs: What kind of speed would that be rated for, Jeff?
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  Jeff Dziekan: I I that I don't know.
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  Jeff Dziekan: I don't know what the latest is, but if you got a big 250, you know, 2500 truck, you're gonna have a stout, more meaty tire, thicker, harder drive.
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  Jeff Dziekan: To hold all the cargo.
• 3:04
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
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  Jeff Dziekan: So uh gosh, I don't know.
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  Mike Marrs: So you're saying the tires aren't rated for 200 miles an hour on that truck?
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  Mike Marrs: Probably not.
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  Don Armstrong: Probably not.
• 3:12
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, I don't think the truck can do 200 miles an hour.
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  Don Armstrong: So get did you hear anything there that was missing?
• 3:17
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, uh the F-word.
• 3:19
  Don Armstrong: Yes, the F-word was missing out of that.
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  Don Armstrong: Ford did not have a recall this week.
• 3:25
  Don Armstrong: It's a miracle.
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  Mike Marrs: Their internet's down.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Uh that's it.
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  Jeff Dziekan: That's fake news.
• 3:31
  Don Armstrong: That is fake, that's fake news right there.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Okay.
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  Jeff Dziekan: He didn't use the F-word.
• 3:37
  Don Armstrong: Let's let's move on and let's do this week's sold cars from Hemming.
• 3:43
  Jeff Dziekan: Let's get everybody uh gathered up.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Gather around, everyone.
• 3:45
  Don Armstrong: Gather around.
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  Don Armstrong: So uh first one up today.
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  Don Armstrong: Now you're gonna guess the price at what this thing sold for at Heming's online auction.
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  Don Armstrong: Okay?
• 3:53
  Mike Marrs: Okay, look at that.
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  Don Armstrong: This is a 1969 Chevrolet Camaro.
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  Don Armstrong: Now, I don't know whether this is a resto mod because I what is 578?
• 4:09
  Don Armstrong: 578.
• 4:10
  Don Armstrong: There let me tell you something.
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  Don Armstrong: The Z28 in 19 uh 69 did not have a 578 offering.
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  Mike Marrs: So this is a nor did it have a six-speed manual.
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  Don Armstrong: So this is a resto mod.
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  Don Armstrong: Okay.
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  Don Armstrong: Um it's got the body, but it ain't got the guts.
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  Don Armstrong: Now, if I'm gonna spend any kind of money on a 1969 Chevy Camaro, it's gonna have the DZ engine in it with a four-speed manual transmission because that's the way the Z28 came back then.
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  Don Armstrong: But that's just me.
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  Don Armstrong: This is this.
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  Don Armstrong: So how much do you think that the 69 Camaro Resto mod sold for?
• 4:44
  Jeff Dziekan: $72,000.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Jeff Heisman says$65,000.
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  Don Armstrong: Anyone else?
• 4:51
  Don Armstrong: Anybody else want to join in or earlier?
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  Mike Marrs: I I don't know if uh we've lost him or not.
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  Mike Marrs: But yeah, this is a pretty bad car.
• 4:59
  Don Armstrong: I mean bad meaning good.
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  Mike Marrs: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Mike Marrs: I mean, you're talking about a monster big block, you got a six speed, and uh let's twist that body round.
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  Don Armstrong: Good looking car.
• 5:09
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, it really is.
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  Don Armstrong: I'm not a I'm not gonna stick.
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  Don Armstrong: Okay, well, yeah, well, I know.
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  Don Armstrong: So the sold car price was sixty-three thousand dollars.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, Jeff, got it.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, we'll give it to Jeff.
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  Don Armstrong: Yeah, Jeff Heitzman uh did very well on that one.
• 5:22
  Don Armstrong: All right, next up.
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  Don Armstrong: The 1986 Jeep CJ7, and I bring this up because it's got the square headlights, that everybody threw a fit over, and Jeep said, Oh we're so sorry, we messed up, we're not gonna make those anymore.
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  Don Armstrong: But I thought that it was interesting that this one is up for sale and uh obviously it's modified, you know, no stock wheels, nothing stock on this.
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  Jeff Dziekan: And I'm sorry, what year again?
• 5:49
  Don Armstrong: This is a 1986, okay.
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  Mike Marrs: But it's that's not the eighty-six front end on it.
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  Mike Marrs: They changed that front end to put those square headlights on it intentionally.
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  Don Armstrong: Okay, well, whatever the case may be, I'm just telling you that uh this one has the square headlights.
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  Jeff Dziekan: 17 grand.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Jeff says 55,000.
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  Jeff Dziekan: I say 17.
• 6:08
  Don Armstrong: Really?
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  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
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  Don Armstrong: Okay.
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  Mike Marrs: V8 conversion and everything.
• 6:12
  Don Armstrong: Does it have a V8 in it?
• 6:13
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, it looks to be Oh my.
• 6:15
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Hellcat maybe in a throttle bottom.
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  Jeff Dziekan: I think it's an LS.
• 6:19
  Jeff Dziekan: LS.
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  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
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  Don Armstrong: So it sold for$33,075.
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  Don Armstrong: Wow.
• 6:24
  Don Armstrong: Uh, it looks good.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
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  Don Armstrong: If you're into that sort of thing.
• 6:27
  Don Armstrong: But um, I thought it was kind of interesting that they had the square headlights on it that everybody threw a fit at when they Jeep put that on there.
• 6:35
  Don Armstrong: Next up 1967 Ford Mustang.
• 6:40
  Don Armstrong: Now, this is a fastback model, and it looks stock like it is stock.
• 6:46
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
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  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 6:48
  Don Armstrong: Now, we don't know whether the car has been racked or in the the many years on it and probably all those miles on it, I would imagine that it has been refurbished at least once or twice.
• 6:59
  Don Armstrong: So, um, and I tell you that on purpose because uh the price may reflect that.
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  Jeff Dziekan: 21,000.
• 7:06
  Don Armstrong: 21,000.
• 7:07
  Don Armstrong: Yes, sir.
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  Mike Marrs: It is, it is.
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  Mike Marrs: If you look at the engine there, it is an S Code 390 in that car.
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  Don Armstrong: Oh.
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  Don Armstrong: That was that offered in 67, a 390?
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  Mike Marrs: Yes, yeah, yeah.
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  Mike Marrs: That's good.
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  Mike Marrs: The bullet Mustang was a 390.
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  Mike Marrs: It was built off.
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  Don Armstrong: It says 60,000.
• 7:24
  Don Armstrong: Jeff says 60,000.
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  Jeff Dziekan: I say 21.
• 7:27
  Don Armstrong: Jeffman.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Jeff Heisman says 60,000.
• 7:30
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 7:31
  Don Armstrong: And you say 21?
• 7:32
  Jeff Dziekan: Right.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Anybody else, maybe?
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  Don Armstrong: I don't know if anybody else is on online with us today, but I will tell you that it sold for$80,050.
• 7:41
  Jeff Dziekan: Wow.
• 7:42
  Don Armstrong: That's a nice looking car.
• 7:43
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
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  Don Armstrong: I'm not a big Mustang guy, but boy, I like that.
• 7:47
  Jeff Dziekan: Yep.
• 7:48
  Don Armstrong: Next up.
• 7:50
  Don Armstrong: A 1969 Pontiac Firebird.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Uh-oh.
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  Don Armstrong: Not a big fan, but I will tell you that I think that this is an all-original.
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  Jeff Dziekan: I'd take this over there, Mustang.
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  Don Armstrong: Okay.
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  Jeff Dziekan: Absolutely.
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  Don Armstrong: Well, um, I will tell you that um it looks like it's an all-original car.
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  unknown: Okay.
• 8:10
  Mike Marrs: If you look at that that top left-hand picture, you can see it's got a functional RAM air setup on it.
• 8:15
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, I see that.
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  Jeff Dziekan: With all the foam on it.
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  Don Armstrong: That would be one of the first ones, wouldn't it?
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  unknown: Yeah.
• 8:18
  Mike Marrs: Yes, it would be.
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  Mike Marrs: Uh so it's a 400 cubic hitch engine on it, too, then.
• 8:23
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm gonna go 55,000.
• 8:29
  Don Armstrong: Let's see if uh Mr.
• 8:30
  Don Armstrong: Heitzman.
• 8:31
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, he is.
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  Mike Marrs: I'm just I'm I'm taking notes and he's got sixty-four thousand.
• 8:36
  Don Armstrong: Well, guess what?
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  Don Armstrong: Neither one of you guys came anywhere close because it sold for$159,600.
• 8:43
  Jeff Dziekan: I didn't have$50,000 to spend anyway.
• 8:45
  Don Armstrong: Well, I wouldn't have even made a down payment.
• 8:48
  Mike Marrs: One of the notes, which I don't know how you'd tell that from the pictures, but it this is one of five hundred and five cars made like this.
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  Mike Marrs: So that's what drove the price up.
• 8:57
  Jeff Dziekan: That's a good looking, good looking uh bird.
• 8:59
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
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  Don Armstrong: Well, I'll tell you what, I don't know as if I'd even pull it out in the sunshine, I'd be with that kind of money invested in.
• 9:05
  Jeff Dziekan: Look at this.
• 9:06
  Don Armstrong: Okay, next up, a 1948 Lincoln Continental.
• 9:11
  Don Armstrong: This would be one of those uh May West or uh or uh yeah.
• 9:16
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, yeah, there's famous movie star cars in like a May West.
• 9:22
  Don Armstrong: May West, I think was before this, but whatever.
• 9:25
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, one of those.
• 9:26
  Don Armstrong: This is a movie star car from the late 40s, so this is post-World War II, 1942, Lincoln Continental convertible.
• 9:35
  Jeff Dziekan: 42,000.
• 9:37
  Don Armstrong: 42?
• 9:38
  Jeff Dziekan: Jeff says 90,000.
• 9:41
  Don Armstrong: You may be surprised.
• 9:44
  Don Armstrong: This car sold for$29,400.
• 9:48
  Don Armstrong: Wow.
• 9:50
  Mike Marrs: This original flathead V8.
• 9:52
  Mike Marrs: I mean that's cool.
• 9:55
  Mike Marrs: To me, that's a deal.
• 9:56
  Don Armstrong: Look at the chrome on the dash.
• 9:59
  Don Armstrong: This buttons the front bumper.
• 10:02
  Don Armstrong: Golly.
• 10:03
  Don Armstrong: That's pretty cool.
• 10:04
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 10:05
  Don Armstrong: Next up.
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  Jeff Dziekan: This is for Jeff Zeke.
• 10:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, yeah.
• 10:09
  Jeff Dziekan: What do you think that is?
• 10:10
  Jeff Dziekan: I think that's amazing.
• 10:11
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, besides that.
• 10:12
  Jeff Dziekan: That's that's a uh is it a fairlane?
• 10:15
  Jeff Dziekan: It is a Ford Falcon.
• 10:16
  Don Armstrong: Falcon.
• 10:17
  Don Armstrong: I did not know that Falcon came in a in a wagon.
• 10:21
  Jeff Dziekan: Gorgeous, gorgeous.
• 10:22
  Mike Marrs: It's all right.
• 10:25
  Mike Marrs: They had a wagon.
• 10:26
  Mike Marrs: The panel truck, though, is what makes this really unique.
• 10:28
  Jeff Dziekan: Yes, yes.
• 10:30
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, that's right.
• 10:30
  Don Armstrong: That is a panel.
• 10:32
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm not so keen on that uh building there on the side.
• 10:37
  Jeff Dziekan: All right, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna I'm gonna stick in the uh the$40,000 range.
• 10:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Really?
• 10:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 10:43
  Jeff Dziekan: Hot dog.
• 10:44
  Jeff Dziekan: I I just don't see it.
• 10:45
  Jeff Dziekan: I I I can't get the number in my head.
• 10:48
  Jeff Dziekan: Jeff says$20.
• 10:49
  Don Armstrong: 20.
• 10:50
  Don Armstrong: It's sold for$8,100.
• 10:53
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 10:53
  Don Armstrong: You know it's got a straight six in it.
• 10:55
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, it doesn't matter.
• 10:56
  Jeff Dziekan: I'd drive it.
• 10:57
  Don Armstrong: I just think that's uh the chrome on the top, between the top and the body, it it's distracting.
• 11:04
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 11:05
  Don Armstrong: That's uh I'm not a big fan of the color.
• 11:07
  Mike Marrs: It's a modified wagon that they took and made a slow panel out of it.
• 11:11
  Jeff Dziekan: But we don't see the suspension, so that could be hacked up too.
• 11:14
  Mike Marrs: Well, if you really want to know the truth, it's riding on a Lincoln Continental chassis with a 50 V8 on it, which you can't see in the pictures by any means.
• 11:21
  Jeff Dziekan: And it went for eight grand?
• 11:22
  Don Armstrong: 81.
• 11:24
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, 81,$8,100.
• 11:27
  Don Armstrong: All right, next up, kind of a cousin to this one.
• 11:30
  Don Armstrong: This is a 1962 Ford Ranchero.
• 11:34
  Don Armstrong: Oh, the SA.
• 11:36
  Don Armstrong: And it's got it also has a straight six in it.
• 11:39
  Don Armstrong: Um, it's petty blue, and I'm sure that Ford has a uh uh paint color for that, but whatever, you've seen them a billion times.
• 11:46
  Jeff Dziekan: All right, since the other one went, and there was a little bit better pick on this, is more original.
• 11:51
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm gonna go six grand.
• 11:53
  Don Armstrong: Six grand.
• 11:54
  Don Armstrong: So there you go.
• 11:54
  Don Armstrong: What is what does Mr.
• 11:55
  Don Armstrong: Heitzman say?
• 11:57
  Mike Marrs: Uh he's uh coming in at 11 grand.
• 12:01
  Don Armstrong: 11,000.
• 12:02
  Don Armstrong: Okay, you ready?
• 12:03
  Mike Marrs: Yeah.
• 12:04
  Don Armstrong: This would be something that Heitzman would.
• 12:06
  Mike Marrs: 112,000.
• 12:07
  Don Armstrong: It sold for$8,500.
• 12:10
  Mike Marrs: And it's an automatic.
• 12:11
  Mike Marrs: Thank you.
• 12:12
  Don Armstrong: Is it an automatic?
• 12:14
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 12:14
  Mike Marrs: I had to look really close at the pictures, but it's there's not a third pedal in there.
• 12:18
  Jeff Dziekan: And there's this uh so it's not like a three on a tree then.
• 12:21
  Jeff Dziekan: No.
• 12:22
  Mike Marrs: It's automatic.
• 12:23
  Mike Marrs: I'd drive it.
• 12:24
  Don Armstrong: So that would be a two-speed automatic.
• 12:28
  Mike Marrs: Oh, I I'd be pretty sure.
• 12:30
  Mike Marrs: I'm not sure about a Ford in 63, two or three.
• 12:34
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, 62.
• 12:34
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, it'd be a two-speed automatic.
• 12:36
  Jeff Dziekan: It's probably the same out of the Mustang.
• 12:39
  unknown: Yeah.
• 12:39
  Don Armstrong: Um, yeah, you're probably right.
• 12:42
  Don Armstrong: But this Mustang didn't come along until 64.
• 12:44
  Jeff Dziekan: Right, but it's yeah.
• 12:45
  Don Armstrong: It's the same setup.
• 12:46
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 12:47
  Don Armstrong: All right, and finally, our last car today is going to be a 1997 Mercedes-Benz SL 600.
• 12:59
  Jeff Dziekan: Check that against your recall.
• 13:03
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, it's got a phone in it.
• 13:05
  Jeff Dziekan: Ooh.
• 13:06
  Jeff Dziekan: Isn't that a phone?
• 13:07
  Jeff Dziekan: It's got a fun.
• 13:08
  Don Armstrong: Oh, yeah.
• 13:09
  Don Armstrong: A built-in fun in the uh and the center console.
• 13:13
  Don Armstrong: Now, what kind of intake manifold is that?
• 13:16
  Mike Marrs: That is a V12, 6.0 liter V12 engine.
• 13:21
  Jeff Dziekan: My God.
• 13:22
  Jeff Dziekan: And a year again?
• 13:23
  Don Armstrong: This is a 1997.
• 13:26
  Don Armstrong: That thing's got some torque.
• 13:28
  Mike Marrs: Got drop top on it.
• 13:30
  Jeff Dziekan: 21,000.
• 13:32
  Don Armstrong: 21,000.
• 13:33
  Don Armstrong: I'm not a Mercedes fan.
• 13:34
  Don Armstrong: I'm not either.
• 13:35
  Don Armstrong: But see, here's another one that we're trying to get Heitzman to spend 42 for Jeffrey.
• 13:41
  Don Armstrong: Get get get into the uh into the car business.
• 13:44
  Don Armstrong: He'd look good in that.
• 13:45
  Don Armstrong: He would.
• 13:45
  Don Armstrong: He would.
• 13:46
  Don Armstrong: And he'd be the talk, he'd be the talk of NASA.
• 13:49
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 13:51
  Don Armstrong: So uh, and he says 42,000.
• 13:54
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 13:54
  Don Armstrong: Well, guess who won this bid?
• 13:57
  Don Armstrong: Uh nobody.
• 13:58
  Don Armstrong: That would be Jeff Zeken for the price of$20,475.
• 14:05
  Don Armstrong: So you're almost spot on.
• 14:07
  Mike Marrs: Almost there.
• 14:07
  Mike Marrs: But can't you just see Heisman rolling down NASA Road 1 with that phone cord hanging down while he's talking to nobody but looking cool with a drop top?
• 14:17
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 14:17
  Don Armstrong: Talking about his investments.
• 14:19
  Mike Marrs: Yeah.
• 14:20
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 14:20
  Don Armstrong: And uh buy-sell stuff.
• 14:22
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, when you drop the top, it's got like a tonneau behind it or the the windscreen.
• 14:26
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, yeah.
• 14:27
  Jeff Dziekan: Yep.
• 14:27
  Jeff Dziekan: The windscreen, yeah.
• 14:28
  Don Armstrong: You gotta have all that.
• 14:30
  Don Armstrong: You know, it'd be it'd be really cool if that was a like an estate sale and the car only had like 12,000 miles on it or something.
• 14:36
  Don Armstrong: And it was full of it.
• 14:37
  Don Armstrong: It looks like it's all stock.
• 14:38
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 14:39
  Mike Marrs: Oh yeah, yeah, it is.
• 14:40
  Mike Marrs: It's uh what I remember reading in the notes.
• 14:43
  Mike Marrs: You know, that's the reason the phone and all that stuff's still in it.
• 14:46
  Don Armstrong: That's very cool.
• 14:47
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 14:48
  Don Armstrong: Just ahead.
• 14:49
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• 15:12
  Don Armstrong: John Gray and his team of detailing experts can help your cars finish without a full repaint.
• 15:17
  Don Armstrong: Searching for real experts in window tint or windshield protection, Gulf Coast Auto Shield.
• 15:22
  Don Armstrong: Dash cams, radar detectors, Gulf Coast Auto Shield.
• 15:25
  Don Armstrong: Got a new car?
• 15:26
  Don Armstrong: Get it protected as soon as you take delivery.
• 15:29
  Don Armstrong: If you don't know which of the multitude of protection products to go with, John Gray will give you an honest opinion and won't sell you something you don't need.
• 15:36
  Don Armstrong: John will help you understand the many options and pricing right on the spot.
• 15:39
  Don Armstrong: He's your guy to have your ride looking its best and protected too.
• 15:43
  Don Armstrong: See this state-of-the-art shop yourself.
• 15:45
  Don Armstrong: Free tours anytime.
• 15:46
  Don Armstrong: Gulf Coast Auto Shield is easy to get to, located just south of the Southwest Freeway on the Sam Houston Parkway.
• 15:52
  Don Armstrong: Gulf Coast Auto Shield, full service luxury car care today and online at gcautoshield.com.
• 15:59
  Don Armstrong: Gift giving should be meaningful, and we have an idea.
• 16:02
  Don Armstrong: A hand-painted custom illustration of your car from one of the nation's leading artists.
• 16:07
  Don Armstrong: Now you can get one or a car show poster customized for you, a friend, or a loved one.
• 16:12
  Don Armstrong: Bill Sites will be happy to guide you through the process.
• 16:15
  Don Armstrong: No matter what the day, birthday, anniversary, or any day, an autographics custom illustration adds an extra touch of class to any home.
• 16:22
  Don Armstrong: Call Bill today, 832-922-0963.
• 16:26
  Don Armstrong: That's 832-922-0963.
• 16:31
  Don Armstrong: Invited to join us again next week for our live show, 10 to Noon Central.
• 16:35
  Don Armstrong: Listen, watch on InWheeltime.com, Facebook, and YouTube.
• 16:38
  Don Armstrong: If you miss it, you'll be able to connect through a podcast from your favorite podcast channel anytime.
• 16:43
  Jeff Dziekan: Anytime.
• 16:44
  Don Armstrong: Time now for the racing calendar sponsored by the Texas Muscle Car Club Challenge.
• 16:48
  Jeff Dziekan: And thank you for that.
• 16:49
  Jeff Dziekan: We're starting out with lawnmowers.
• 16:51
  Jeff Dziekan: It's the season opener.
• 16:52
  Jeff Dziekan: Regular racing season has started in Gun Barrel, Texas.
• 16:56
  Don Armstrong: Gun barrel.
• 16:56
  Jeff Dziekan: Gun barrel.
• 16:57
  Jeff Dziekan: It starts today.
• 16:58
  Jeff Dziekan: It's the Lone Star Mower Racing Association.
• 17:00
  Don Armstrong: By the way, I've been sending you these lawnmowers.
• 17:03
  Don Armstrong: We need to send those so everybody can get a look at see what so Mr.
• 17:06
  Don Armstrong: Mars.
• 17:07
  Don Armstrong: I'll send them to Mars.
• 17:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Send them to Mars.
• 17:09
  Jeff Dziekan: You can post them up.
• 17:10
  Jeff Dziekan: There you go.
• 17:11
  Jeff Dziekan: NASCAR.
• 17:11
  Jeff Dziekan: We got the Craftsman Truck ran yesterday.
• 17:14
  Jeff Dziekan: Kyle Bush won that race.
• 17:15
  Jeff Dziekan: He's won like he's actually the leader in laps in uh truck racing.
• 17:20
  Jeff Dziekan: Over a thousand laps led.
• 17:21
  Jeff Dziekan: So that was yesterday.
• 17:22
  Jeff Dziekan: And then you've got today uh at 4 p.m.
• 17:25
  Jeff Dziekan: on the CW.
• 17:27
  Jeff Dziekan: The CW channel is uh Dover.
• 17:29
  Jeff Dziekan: That would be the O'Reilly.
• 17:33
  Don Armstrong: Correct, correct.
• 17:34
  Jeff Dziekan: And then tomorrow you've got the uh All-Star race, the 17th.
• 17:38
  Jeff Dziekan: It's also uh 3 p.m.
• 17:40
  Jeff Dziekan: And that's on FS1.
• 17:42
  Jeff Dziekan: Not many people have that, so take a look at that if you got it.
• 17:45
  Jeff Dziekan: NHRA, I I saw a little bit of the uh qualifying yesterday.
• 17:51
  Jeff Dziekan: It was okay, I guess.
• 17:52
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh the Gerberg Collision and Glass Route 66, NHRA National, presented by Peak.
• 17:58
  Jeff Dziekan: Route 66, that's up in the Chicago.
• 18:00
  Jeff Dziekan: Yep, that's in Joliet.
• 18:01
  Jeff Dziekan: Joliet.
• 18:02
  Jeff Dziekan: So after the rest, you can go visit the prison.
• 18:05
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh competing categories a bunch.
• 18:07
  Jeff Dziekan: So go ahead and take a look at that if you've got that channel.
• 18:10
  Jeff Dziekan: Formula One.
• 18:11
  Jeff Dziekan: Formula One is actually next Sunday.
• 18:13
  Jeff Dziekan: It is the Canadian Grand Prix.
• 18:16
  Jeff Dziekan: So that's gonna be in competition with the California.
• 18:18
  Jeff Dziekan: Oh, yeah.
• 18:18
  Don Armstrong: The Canucks are gonna be watching the Formula One, yeah.
• 18:20
  Jeff Dziekan: Formula One, eh?
• 18:21
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh all that good stuff.
• 18:22
  Jeff Dziekan: And of course the big one.
• 18:24
  Jeff Dziekan: Woohoo! Indy next weekend.
• 18:26
  Jeff Dziekan: I love it.
• 18:26
  Jeff Dziekan: I'll be there watching it in front of my TV with bells on.
• 18:31
  Jeff Dziekan: So there you go.
• 18:32
  Don Armstrong: Bells on.
• 18:32
  Don Armstrong: What time does it go?
• 18:34
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh it doesn't say here, but I'm gonna be uh say what one o'clock?
• 18:38
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, probably cover starts at noon or something.
• 18:40
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm not sure.
• 18:41
  Jeff Dziekan: We'll I'll check with you.
• 18:42
  Don Armstrong: Okay, you'll let us know.
• 18:44
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 18:45
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 18:45
  Don Armstrong: Uh Mr.
• 18:46
  Don Armstrong: Mars, it's time now for this week in auto history.
• 18:49
  Mike Marrs: Yes, sir, it is.
• 18:50
  Mike Marrs: We've got a few stories that we found that were really interesting.
• 18:53
  Mike Marrs: And uh gonna start out with this week in 1947.
• 18:59
  Mike Marrs: Tucker, Preston Tucker, publicly demonstrated the Tucker 48 center mount cyclops eye.
• 19:06
  Mike Marrs: You know, that was the headlight right in the middle of the grill area there, and it turned as you turned the steering wheel, which was very innovative.
• 19:15
  Mike Marrs: Didn't Ford have that option too?
• 19:17
  Don Armstrong: Studebaker uh actually built a car.
• 19:19
  Mike Marrs: There you go.
• 19:20
  Mike Marrs: Yeah.
• 19:20
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:21
  Mike Marrs: So there was there was a it it was very considered very futuristic, and it was before all the adaptive headlights and stuff that we've got now, and a lot of cars we have now will do that something quite similar.
• 19:32
  Mike Marrs: Uh but it was they wouldn't couldn't get it approved in several states that wouldn't sell because of the safety features of it.
• 19:39
  Mike Marrs: They didn't like it, they said it wasn't good, they couldn't use it.
• 19:42
  Mike Marrs: Uh some of the other things that he came up with were the uh seat belts, padded dashboards, a lot of concepts that we now have that we take for granted that came out of that Tucker process.
• 19:53
  Mike Marrs: Then in this week in 1962.
• 19:57
  Don Armstrong: Great year.
• 19:59
  Mike Marrs: Parnelly Jones hit 150 miles per hour at the Indianapolis 500.
• 20:04
  Mike Marrs: Now, this was considered a a sound barrier for race cars.
• 20:08
  Mike Marrs: They just couldn't get any faster than that.
• 20:10
  Mike Marrs: But he was driving the legendary Watson Offenhauser Roadster, and he actually went through and qualified at 150.370 miles per hour.
• 20:20
  Mike Marrs: Now it proved that front engine roadsters still had a lot of life in them because everybody was starting to move towards the mid-engine type cars.
• 20:27
  Mike Marrs: And uh it was the first one to do that, and now it's pretty common, but it did change fundamentally the geometry of indie car racing forever.
• 20:36
  Mike Marrs: Also, this week, 1969, the shore Chevrolet Corvair made its official end after a turbulent decade.
• 20:44
  Mike Marrs: Uh it was really launched as an engineering marvel, and it quickly became a political fault target.
• 20:51
  Mike Marrs: Everybody was after it for a lot of different reasons.
• 20:54
  Mike Marrs: But it was American-designed, mass-produced passenger car with a rear-mounted air-cooled engine.
• 20:59
  Mike Marrs: It's the only one.
• 21:00
  Mike Marrs: It could not overcome the stigma that was created by Ralph Nader's Unsafe at Any Speed book.
• 21:06
  Don Armstrong: And that was the version one car that uh they stopped building in 1965 and moved to this particular body style.
• 21:14
  Don Armstrong: Just thought I'd throw that in.
• 21:16
  Mike Marrs: Okay.
• 21:16
  Mike Marrs: Well, by May 69, sales of the Corveyor itself, that they just they just couldn't sell them, and they're Gore Conventional Camaro was really taking over the spotlight anyway.
• 21:26
  Mike Marrs: Sales were blowing and going on that.
• 21:28
  Mike Marrs: So, one thing about the final 1969 models, they're they're really considered prize collectibles for several reasons.
• 21:35
  Mike Marrs: There was only 6,000 of them made.
• 21:38
  Mike Marrs: They were hand several of the last cars were hand built because they already took them off the production line, but they were still building them in a special area offline at the Willow Run plant.
• 21:48
  Mike Marrs: Those are the cars that are really collectible.
• 21:51
  Don Armstrong: Okay.
• 21:53
  Mike Marrs: Then in nineteen seventy three.
• 21:56
  Mike Marrs: Oh yes, getting into the interlock.
• 22:00
  Mike Marrs: And I did not know this, but they started doing the testing of the federally mandated seatbelt ignition interlock systems in the United States.
• 22:08
  Mike Marrs: So, in other words, the safety feature was that if you didn't have your seatbelt on, you couldn't start your car.
• 22:14
  Mike Marrs: And and it created a lot of problems.
• 22:16
  Mike Marrs: A lot of people thought, oh, it's a great safety idea, you know, but uh they didn't work real well fundamentally in the real world, if nothing else.
• 22:24
  Mike Marrs: For example, um a mechanic that needed to start the car so they'll work on it under the hood.
• 22:31
  Mike Marrs: Well, there was a button under the hood, so you could push it one time to start the motor from under the hood.
• 22:35
  Mike Marrs: If it died, then you were SOL.
• 22:38
  Mike Marrs: You had to get in the car, buckle up, and all that.
• 22:45
  Mike Marrs: Yes.
• 22:46
  Mike Marrs: So it got to be a very controversial aspect of it because people were trying to buckle up the seat belts and set on them, and there was just all kinds of workarounds they were trying to do.
• 22:54
  Mike Marrs: And so they finally overturned it.
• 22:56
  Mike Marrs: That's why I guess I never heard of it because it didn't last very long.
• 22:59
  Mike Marrs: I think it was about a year, 18 months that they actually had this out there, and it just never did really get pushed out into the main market.
• 23:07
  Mike Marrs: Then in uh 2004, the Mustang actually, the Ford Mustang left the Ford River Rouge complex.
• 23:17
  Mike Marrs: That's where it had been built forever and ever and uh since 1964.
• 23:22
  Mike Marrs: And it'd been that's where everything was built with the Mustang.
• 23:25
  Mike Marrs: But however, they took the final 2004 GT convertible, rolled off the line, and then they moved it over to the modern flat rock assembly plant.
• 23:33
  Mike Marrs: So 40 years the Rouge plant had been defined as Mustang's blue-collar performance identity, and it it just changed.
• 23:40
  Mike Marrs: They moved it on.
• 23:42
  Mike Marrs: And that was just some couple of things that we found interesting.
• 23:44
  Mike Marrs: There is one more thing, though.
• 23:45
  Mike Marrs: This right here.
• 23:47
  Mike Marrs: Jeff, this is for you.
• 23:49
  Mike Marrs: Thank you.
• 23:50
  Mike Marrs: This is a Buick white job.
• 23:52
  Mike Marrs: Yes, it is.
• 23:54
  Mike Marrs: So it was a convertible car that Buick made as one of the first concept cars that was ever built.
• 24:00
  Mike Marrs: It was designed by Harley Earl, uh, had the hidden headlamps, had a gunsight hood ornament, electric windows, wrapper, it had a lot of stuff on it, and he actually drove one of these until he replaced it with a 1951.
• 24:12
  Mike Marrs: But I just thought that that is is there's a lot of different things on that car that looked really good as far as the the lines on it, much like a cord possibly, the front end.
• 24:24
  Mike Marrs: It just I just thought it was a gorgeous car.
• 24:25
  Mike Marrs: And then whenever I found the name of a it was a Buick Y job, I just figured that was just right up your alley.
• 24:31
  Jeff Dziekan: Right up my alley.
• 24:32
  Jeff Dziekan: Yep.
• 24:32
  Mike Marrs: That's the thing we found this week in automotive history.
• 24:36
  Don Armstrong: Well, I will tell you that there is uh some video or film of Harley Earle driving it.
• 24:42
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, and he drove that thing back and forth to work.
• 24:44
  Jeff Dziekan: Did I didn't he have it made for himself?
• 24:45
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 24:46
  Jeff Dziekan: I thought he had it made for himself.
• 24:47
  Jeff Dziekan: Could could I add interject one thing?
• 24:49
  Jeff Dziekan: I missed something in the racing.
• 24:51
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh next Thursday is carburation day for Indy.
• 24:55
  Jeff Dziekan: And carburetor mobile race.
• 25:01
  Jeff Dziekan: So it's gonna be the Wiener 500 tomorrow of next Thursday on Carb Day at Indy.
• 25:06
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh it'll be telecom.
• 25:09
  Jeff Dziekan: Carburation Day is what they call it.
• 25:11
  Jeff Dziekan: It's where they test and get their cars tweaked out, but they're gonna have the Oscar Meyer Wiener Mobile 500.
• 25:17
  Jeff Dziekan: They did it last year, it was a great hit.
• 25:18
  Mike Marrs: How many Oscar Wiener mobiles do they have?
• 25:21
  Jeff Dziekan: I think there's four.
• 25:22
  Jeff Dziekan: There's either four or five mobile.
• 25:24
  Jeff Dziekan: Is it six?
• 25:24
  Jeff Dziekan: It might be six.
• 25:25
  Jeff Dziekan: I think it's six.
• 25:26
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah.
• 25:26
  Jeff Dziekan: And I think it's sponsored by like Bob's Mustard Emporium.
• 25:30
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh and you could get like a slather, a dollop, or a squirt of mustard uh free or something.
• 25:35
  Don Armstrong: You know, on the inside.
• 25:37
  Don Armstrong: And I know this for a fact, I got pictures actually.
• 25:40
  Don Armstrong: In the middle, they use like vinyl linoleum down there in the in the middle of the the wiener mobile, and they have a mustard thing down the middle of it.
• 25:52
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 25:53
  Jeff Dziekan: So very the Bob's must mustard thing is a thinking about buying a new car?
• 25:58
  Don Armstrong: Instead of auto loan terms, we're expected to keep customers out of the market longer.
• 26:02
  Don Armstrong: Instead, they're doing the opposite, accelerating return cycles and creating tougher deals for finance and insurance offices.
• 26:09
  Don Armstrong: New data from JD Power shows twenty percent of all new car buyers return to market within three to four years.
• 26:16
  Don Armstrong: For buyers who financed with 84 month loans, the figure jumps to 45%.
• 26:23
  Don Armstrong: The dynamic is boosting showroom traffic, but it's also increasing the number of customers arriving with little or negative equity.
• 26:29
  Don Armstrong: Not good.
• 26:30
  Don Armstrong: For dealerships, that trade-off is paying out unevenly, depending on brand and customer base.
• 26:37
  Don Armstrong: 2025, 26% of used vehicle trade-ins carried negative equity, up from 24% a year earlier.
• 26:43
  Don Armstrong: Average trade-in equity slipped to$7,099, down six hundred and sixty dollars from a year earlier, according to JD Power.
• 26:53
  Don Armstrong: The decline is now the biggest driver of higher monthly payments and a key pressure point for finance offices, according to JD Power.
• 27:00
  Don Armstrong: March twenty-sixth, eighty-four-month loans accounted for thirteen percent of all new vehicle financing, reflecting how common extended terms have become as affordability pressures persist.
• 27:12
  Don Armstrong: We've got more coming up on the In-Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
• 27:16
  Don Armstrong: We're going to uh say goodbye right after these brief messages.
• 27:20
  Don Armstrong: Your car is a direct reflection of you, so don't be satisfied with color fade or a dingy dull appearance.
• 27:26
  Don Armstrong: Get rid of those terrible automated car wash scratches.
• 27:29
  Don Armstrong: Gulf Coast Auto Shield is your save the paint company.
• 27:32
  Don Armstrong: John Gray and his team of detailing experts can help your cars finish without a full repaint.
• 27:37
  Don Armstrong: Searching for real experts in window tent or windshield protection, Gulf Coast Auto Shield.
• 27:42
  Don Armstrong: Dash cams, radar detectors, Gulf Coast Auto Shield.
• 27:46
  Don Armstrong: Got a new car?
• 27:47
  Don Armstrong: Get it protected as soon as you take delivery.
• 27:49
  Don Armstrong: If you don't know which of the multitude of protection products to go with, John Gray will give you an honest opinion and won't sell you something you don't need.
• 27:56
  Don Armstrong: John will help you understand the many options and pricing right on the spot.
• 28:00
  Don Armstrong: He's your guy to have your ride looking its best and protected too.
• 28:03
  Don Armstrong: See the state-of-the-art shop yourself, free tours anytime.
• 28:06
  Don Armstrong: Gulf Coast Auto Shield is easy to get to, located just south of the Southwest Freeway on the Sam Houston Parkway.
• 28:12
  Don Armstrong: Gulf Coast Auto Shield, full service luxury car care today and online at gcautoshield.com.
• 28:20
  Don Armstrong: Gift giving should be meaningful, and we have an idea.
• 28:22
  Don Armstrong: A hand-painted custom illustration of your car from one of the nation's leading artists.
• 28:27
  Don Armstrong: Now you can get one or a car show poster customized for you, a friend, or a loved one.
• 28:32
  Don Armstrong: Bill Sites will be happy to guide you through the process.
• 28:35
  Don Armstrong: No matter what the day, birthday, anniversary, or any day, an autographics custom illustration adds an extra touch of class to any home.
• 28:42
  Don Armstrong: Call Bill today, 832-922-0963.
• 28:46
  Don Armstrong: That's 832-922-0963.
• 28:52
  Don Armstrong: Guess what?
• 28:53
  Don Armstrong: That's all for this week's In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
• 28:57
  Don Armstrong: Be sure to check us out online at InWheeltime.com.
• 29:00
  Don Armstrong: We're always looking for new, informative, and great automotive things to bring to the global audience.
• 29:07
  Don Armstrong: If you have an idea, event, road trip, or tall tale you'd like us to feature, let us know.
• 29:12
  Don Armstrong: Our email address is info at inwheeltime.com.
• 29:18
  Don Armstrong: The NWL Time Video Coordinator is We Need More Jeff Zeken.
• 29:22
  Don Armstrong: For booking agent, video editor Mike out of this world Mars, and Chief Engineer David Aingsley.
• 29:30
  Don Armstrong: I'm Don Armstrong.
• 29:32
  Don Armstrong: Thanks for our weekly show contributors, Jeff Heitzman and George Skelton.
• 29:36
  Don Armstrong: And be sure and join us for the 51st annual Lone Star Street Rod Association State Running Show, June 13th in Hewlett Park in Cranbury, Texas.
• 29:45
  Don Armstrong: In real time, we'll have a bonus hour show that weekend.
• 29:48
  Don Armstrong: It's always fun.
• 29:49
  Don Armstrong: We hope you join us again next week for another live edition of the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show from our dual city studios, 10 to noon Central Time.
• 29:59
  Don Armstrong: Mark it down on your calendar.
• 30:01
  Jeff Dziekan: Check it off there.
• 30:01
  Don Armstrong: Hey, have yourself a great, safe weekend.
• 30:03
  Don Armstrong: So long for now, and we'll see you next weekend.
• 30:06
  Jeff Dziekan: Thank you.
• 30:24
  Don Armstrong: Inviting you to join us for our live show every Saturday morning on Facebook, YouTube, Twitch, and our InWheelTime.com website.
• 30:32
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• 30:41
  Don Armstrong: Keep listening, and we'll see you soon.