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Turnbuckles & Stogies- Interview with Kevin from cigar prop · Military Broadcast Radio | MBR Talk

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  cigars live on the podcast. We still same time 8:30 Sunday
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  morning. We're here for your Sunday
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  enjoyment. So on that note, we're going to
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  bring my man in, my man, Kevin Shanahan.
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  This is the interview of the week.
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  How's it going guys? He.
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  Is there he is. What's up, man?
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  Cigar crop. My man always got something
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  going on. Listen, Kevin, I got to ask you
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  this question. So.
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  So what made you build a walking humidor in your house?
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  Isn't that what we all want? Isn't that what every cigar
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  smoker? Dreams of That's the dream.
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  I mean that that's that's the dream you know it's you know
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  it's and and that's you know I I didn't want one I I was never
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  going to build this walk in Humidor.
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  My my wife, Jessica convinced me.
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  Yeah, she convinced me to build a a cigar.
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  Lounge. Where is she?
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  At then we should have her on here, not you.
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  She's actually getting ready to head to work.
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  Corona cigar, Yeah. She convinced me to build the
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  cigar lounge and then I wasn't going to build a walk in Humidor
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  and she convinced me to build a she The Walking humor.
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  She's the best wife. I mean how many wives can say,
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  you know after we just got done putting a 500 square foot
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  addition on the House, a new master bedroom, a beautiful and
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  you know six months goes by and she says we should build a cigar
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  lounge. I mean there aren't too many
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  wives out there. OK.
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  That that that can that would say that you know and and then
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  and then as we're designing the the lounge, you know I was just
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  going to have some big cabinets, you know like some, some big big
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  cabinets and she pushed me for months, you know like you got to
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  build a walk in humidor you're not going to be happy with those
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  cabinets. So I'm like, all right, so so we
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  changed the plans you know for you know with the contractor and
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  we decided to build a walk in humidor.
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  That's cool, bro. I mean, I, you know, I was
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  watching you as you were building it, posting up the
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  updates, and it was just, it was awesome.
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  I was like, that's so cool, the fact that you built, you know,
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  basically an entire cigar lounge, you know, in your house.
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  Oh yeah, it's it's it's definitely cool.
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  After the show, I'll actually be be doing more on the hopefully I
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  can get it knocked out today. I'm hoping to get the majority
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  of the wood up today. I don't know if the whole
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  project will be done. It'll be done before this year.
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  That's what my goal is to at least have it have it done so
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  but yeah it's it's been a it's been a hell of a progress you
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  know two years a little over 2 years building this whole thing.
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  It's it's crazy. I've.
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  Been following you and brought out the tres panda cigars.
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  Make sure you get your Tres Panda cigars.
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  My man right there. Order trash panda cigars.
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  That's all I'm going to tell you.
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  Yo, OG, what do you got to say to Kevin?
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  Oh man, that you're set up there, brother.
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  It is everything dreams are made of.
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  That's absolutely amazing. Yeah.
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  Congrats to you, man. And hey, what do you think
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  turnbuckles can appear from there someday?
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  Yeah, yeah. No, no shame in my game,
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  brother. If you if you if, if you guys
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  are ever in the Sarasota area, you know definitely, you know,
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  head on, head on over. We can definitely do a show from
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  here. So let me ask you this and and
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  because shout out to Maddie Robs.
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  So are you a a collaborator of Drew Estate?
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  Yeah, Drew Estate and I are or or us are our partners.
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  You know when when we first got into the cigar industry Jessica
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  and I that that's what she kind of started smoking where the
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  Drew Estate cigars you know the the the infused and I was just a
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  big fan of Dru Estate cigars in in general.
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  So we were always smoking them, always promoting them and they
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  paid attention you know and then when at one of the barn smokers
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  they came to us and like hey if there's anything you guys ever
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  need from us, you know reach out, you know we, we love you
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  guys promote us and that was like start of the relationship
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  you know there this is I'm in the Drew Estate experience acid
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  studios you know so that that that says a lot.
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  You know, as you can see behind me, a lot of lot of Drew Estate
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  stuff. So Kevin, this guy right here,
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  right? So when he started smoking, ask
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  him what he started smoking when he first started smoking.
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  Give. Me one second and I will answer
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  that question. He's he's going to tell you what
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  he started smoking when he first started smoking well.
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  You can tell him he. Started smoking the acid
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  Blondie. I gave him the Blondie.
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  He's like that. This tastes like potpourri.
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  I'm like, OK, I'm like. It's it's a great cigar.
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  I I like the Blondie. I still on occasion smoke a
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  smoke a Blondie. You know, every year Jeff
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  Wershowitz of Corona Cigar. That's who Jessica works for.
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  He's also a sponsor of our show. He puts out a list of all the
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  not the top five top ten of his favorite cigars.
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  He puts out a list each year of like the top 25 cigars sold by
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  Corona Cigar and they sell millions, millions of cigars.
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  And I believe two years in a row that Acid Blondie is the number
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  one cigar sold. It it, I've I've asked quite a
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  few places and that's a big seller because it's not it.
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  It's a very good introductory cigar is why a lot of people buy
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  it and a lot of people smoke it at their everyday cigar.
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  That's what they like. Yeah, it's it's it's a good
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  cigar. I mean, I probably haven't
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  smoked a Blondie in a couple of months, but every now and then I
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  I enjoy. If I'm going to go with an
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  infused, it's usually going to be the the Druid State Acid,
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  Cuba, Cuba, or the Cuba Candela. The, the.
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  The. Yeah, I I do the tobacco every,
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  every Sunday. Actually, I've got one right up
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  here somewhere. After this I got to fill my
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  look. He's like somewhere I got to go
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  over. Here I got to you know, I I
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  don't want to have cigar people over here because I I feel like
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  an asshole because I have got cigars everywhere.
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  I mean just by looking around in various bags.
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  Like like here's a bag of cigars.
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  I have bags of cigars everywhere.
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  I have loose just in this area. I probably have more loose
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  cigars laying around than most than most people own.
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  I probably. Have 300. 300 cigars.
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  Hold on, just in this area right here, I just got.
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  It right here. That's crazy.
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  Yeah, I I it's probably 300 cigars that are just laying
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  around that I that I have that I have to organize.
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  I have to put in different bags and put away.
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  It's just, I mean, listen, it's disgusting.
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  I'm embarrassed by it. Oh.
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  Yeah, that's so. It's so embarrassing.
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  Wait, that's so embarrassing. It's like when me and Joey went
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  to Sansa's shop, right? So you know Sanj, so.
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  Yeah, I've been to a shop, yeah. Me and Joey walk in the shop.
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  I'm like, man, Sanj, you got a lot of cigars, he goes.
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  I'm embarrassed. He said it was like 70, 70%
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  empty or something like that. Meanwhile, but his walk around
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  the fucking joint. His 70% empty in his humidores
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  is most shops at 100% full. Yeah.
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  You know, so like. And OG was with us.
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  OG tell him about Yes. Yeah, I mean, son, first thing
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  he said. We walked in.
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  He's like, I'm really sorry. I I don't have a lot of
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  inventory And my eyes bugged out of my head and was like, what
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  are you talking about? You got boxes stacked to the
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  ceiling, you know, 10 deep. Like what do you mean this is
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  almost empty? And that was that was the day
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  that OG had smoked his first SP 1014 Red, live on the podcast.
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  Yeah, it's good. Good cigar.
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  I think I got a few of them. I got.
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  I got probably, yeah. I we got a whole Tupperware
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  thing or Tupperdoor full of Saunders scars.
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  He. Was smoking it and he was like
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  on the podcast, like, I don't want it to end.
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  I'm like, well, I mean, there's a lot of boxes outside.
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  You'll probably get another one. Yeah.
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  So, So what? What made you start your own
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  'cause I I this was a question not only from me but from a few
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  people. What made you start your own
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  line of cigars or your own company of cigars?
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  Fresh Panda. I was an idiot, you know anybody
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  that wants to start a cigar company just know there is no
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  money to be had in this fucking game.
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  It's AII don't know. Maybe, you know maybe I had an
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  excess amount of money that I wanted to hide from the
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  government because it wasn't about making money.
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  It was. I think that's, you know, it's
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  it's just like building this lounge isn't it?
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  Everybody's dream to to have their own cigar and and to say
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  that you know this is mine is what I produced.
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  And yeah it was after talking with so trash panned of cigars
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  started off not as making my own cigar.
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  Interviewing hundreds of people over the last year.
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  You know talking with our guests before the show after the show.
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  You know we found out how many like excess cigars there really
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  are from these factories that that they're producing.
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  And there there's there's a lot, you know, someone wants, you
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  know, when I, when I order 5000 cigars, they're not making 5000,
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  they're making 51152 hundred, Yeah, for me and for me, I'll
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  take, I take all of those. I'll take that 5300, you know.
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  But there's some people that says, no, I I ordered 5000, I
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  want 5000. That's it.
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  So the factory's sitting. The factory's sitting on 2 or
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  300 cigars, 100 cigars, and sometimes those just get put
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  away. And so when you make your order
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  next, you get some of those as well.
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  And sometimes the factory just sells them to somebody else.
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  You know, they're, you know, they don't have your band on
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  them, but they're they're going to become somebody else's, you
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  know, cigar. So we are picking up some of
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  those and that's really what, you know, Trash Panda started
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  off with just selling some overruns, kind of like a
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  Caldwell lost and found type of thing, but on a much, much, much
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  smaller scale. Kevin, I think what my question
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  is to you is so now I've seen your your Instagram and
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  everything that you're getting rid of all the the, the top, the
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  top. When I say the top, I mean
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  Fuente and all of that. So why are you getting rid of
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  that and and and putting out transparent cigars?
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  Because we haven't had time to promote our own cigar over the
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  last year or so. And I'm constantly, you know,
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  finding these vintage cigars, you know, promoting those,
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  finding these overruns, selling those and my own cigars have
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  taken a backseat to pushing those cigars.
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  Because when you're finding these vintage cigars and these
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  other deals, you know, to make money, you got to get them and
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  you got to flip them fast. You know, it's like get get
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  them, flip them, make a call. Because if you're sitting on
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  them for six months, if you're sitting on them for nine months,
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  you're not making money. So you're you're getting them
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  and you're flipping them. You know, versus, you know, when
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  I'm buying my own cigars, my profit margin is a lot higher on
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  my on my own stuff. So I can sit on my own cigars
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  for six months, nine months, a year, and plus it.
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  Plus if if nobody's buying them, I have a shit ton of cigars to
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  smoke. I just smoke my own stuff, you
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  know, and and it's not and it's not a you.
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  Know it. Doesn't it?
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  Doesn't cost me that much. Oh Gee.
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  That's not a bad thing that smokes his own stuff.
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  Well, I I will tell you though, but the names that you have for
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  these are are just all like the lace is out.
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  Probably actually my favorite one, because I know exactly
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  where that came from, Lace. Is out, lace is.
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  Out that I know exactly where that came from.
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  So but I I my. Favorite movie.
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  So it's it's perfect. Yeah.
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  So I listen, I don't know and This is why I'm asking him.
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  I'm assuming some of our, our followers or listeners probably
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  have the same question. Where'd you come up with Trash
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  Panda? That is an absolutely killer
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  name. Like, where did you come up?
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  How did you come up with Trash Panda?
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  You know so going back a couple of years ago I had said some
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  dumb stuff on online when I first started out in this, you
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  know, I I, you know being like you know young media trying to
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  run with the big dogs. I had said some dumb shit and
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  one of the one of the members of another member of the media
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  basically called me trash like like I'm the worst thing that
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  you know and and we've made amends since then and I
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  understand where you're coming from.
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  Like I said, I said some dumb stuff you know so they called me
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  trash. So so and then when I just
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  wanted to start the own the own my own cigar company.
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  You know I remember my daughter in Florida like we have
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  alligators which are called swamp kittens.
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  That's what we call alligators and we and we have names for
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  like all like different names for all different types of
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  animals here in Florida. And then I I remember her
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  posting a picture of of the the swamp kitten she called it.
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  And then I'm like you know trash panda.
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  You know that's just great. That's what a raccoon is trash
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  panda. You know and then I I I'd seen
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  the the I think there's a a baseball team in Huntsville, AL
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  called the Rocket City trash pandas and and I love their logo
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  and I'm like you know what trash panda people think I'm trash
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  trash panda cigars. And you know, then it just felt
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  it just fell in line with what we were doing of doing these
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  lost and found cigars want you know, things that people would
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  throw away. You know, like I said we, you
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  know that that's their trash. It's our treasure, you know, So,
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  so on these missions to go and find these cigars, we would call
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  them our dumpster diving missions, you know to.
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  Save these cigars. Nice.
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  Nice. Excellent.
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  Danny, Danny Nippers said. Here.
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  Good morning, fellas. Lives with WAIT.
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  Hold on. Yeah, yeah, I definitely.
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  I definitely live with a. Camera in my face.
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  In his face. Yeah, Danny was on last night we
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  we, we hosted Steve Socko, the Dumbarton Tobacco and Trust on
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  our on our. Special.
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  On a special show. Last night, because we were, we
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  were actually filming our Christmas and New Year's
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  two-part episode last night, too.
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  Shout. Out to my man Derek Dukes works
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  for protocol. And wait a minute, Derek works
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  for Derek works for protocol now.
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  Yeah, he does, bro. Oh, right, right on.
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  And then and then the issue's on.
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  So here's, here's, I got, I got a story on Derek for you here.
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  So, so sorry. Listen.
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  No, no, no. This is, this is, this is a good
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  story. So no, Like, no, no, no.
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  You'll enjoy the stories on our next two episodes.
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  Then Kevin, Kevin, you'll listen to the stories on our next two
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  episodes. And it's great because even
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  Dennis is like he goes, you know this guy for like 30.
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  Years They, him and Derek wrestled together and and
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  travelled the roads together. So you know the stories that
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  they had, bro. I was just sitting there
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  laughing the entire time. And yeah, so, so I, so I, you
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  know it like in this, like in this business, like we all tell
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  stories, you know, saying sometimes you're like, is that
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  true? You know, so you know, Derek's
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  like, you know, I know all these people And then I really didn't
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  know, Derek that well. I'm like, this guy cannot know
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  all these people, you know, so, so, so, so I'm at an event and
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  Brutus the Barber Beefcake shows up and I take a picture with it
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  and Derek and Derek's like, hey, tell, tell him I said hi.
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  And I'm like, you know what, I'm fine.
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  I'm, I'm a I'm a call out Derek. I walked over there and I'm
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  like, hey, this guy says hi. Do you know him?
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  He's like, Oh my God, that's Derek, you know, and his.
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  Wife and he's like. He's like, you know, so he's
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  like, come here, come here, let's talk, you know, so like,
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  you know, like, you know, I know Derek, you know, and I'm like,
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  I'm friends with Brutus the Barber Beefcake, you know,
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  that's awesome. And I'm like son of a bitch, you
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  know? And that's like he is, he is and
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  I. Love.
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  I love Derek. Like, damn, he is right, he does
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  know everybody. He does know everybody and he's
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  got great stories. I love Derek and I haven't.
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  I haven't seen him in forever. It's it's it's funny because you
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  know, even even my man right there, the OG, he's like, he
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  went to his first barn smoker this year and I broke his
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  cherry. By the way, just don't sleep
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  face down and have something no more, OK?
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  Oh yeah. Whoa, wait, He fell asleep.
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  Kevin. Hotel room Kevin, with his face
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  in the pillow and his ass in the air while I was watching TVI,
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  looked. Over.
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  I was fucking tired. I was tired.
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  I was tired. I was like, listen, if this was
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  another time, I don't know. I'm just saying.
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  Yeah, I'm just saying. Yeah, Derek, going forward,
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  don't worry, I'll be getting my own hotel room.
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  Which, which which barn? Which barn smoker did you go to?
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  He did Connecticut. We went Connecticut, yay and
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  Connecticut. Oh man.
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  Yeah, I I missed all of them this year except Florida.
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  We just, we just didn't have time to travel.
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  We. Missed.
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  We were actually supposed to come.
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  We were actually supposed to come down to Florida for that
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  one. Yeah, it was.
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  It was. Down.
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  It was great. You know it didn't.
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  Look, look, look at what Danny said while you were sleeping.
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  Face down, ass up, he said. Prison rules in the hotel room.
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  So ladies and. Gentlemen, we have a beautiful
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  baby together. Yeah.
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  You know when, when they're when they allow us to film.
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  No. Me and OGI had to drive home.
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  Well, that's. Because you're saying that word,
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  You know they they are probably one of the the, you know, the
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  into and basically you know rearrange the furniture and
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• 23:52
  So, so, Kevin, so another thing I want to ask you.
• 23:58
  Yo, how the fuck did you get your beard so long?
• 24:02
  Because Monster is sexy, but you're not.
• 24:07
  I I I have. I have good.
• 24:08
  I have good genetics. That's all it is.
• 24:12
  My, my that the men in my family just grow beards.
• 24:16
  Period. Hey.
• 24:18
  Listen. Listen, yeah, I'm trying to grow
• 24:21
  my shit down to my kneecaps, but that ain't working, so.
• 24:25
  It will. It will.
• 24:26
  Yeah. I want to go.
• 24:28
  Yeah. Yeah, go ahead.
• 24:30
  What do you use to to make it like like the way it is?
• 24:37
  So, so I I I manufacture my own product for for my beard.
• 24:41
  I used to have a a business called Irish Beard Balm where
• 24:45
  I'd I'd manufacture or leave it a leave in conditioner for men's
• 24:47
  beards. You know, when I, when I, when I
• 24:49
  when I when I tore my the MCL on my knee two years ago, I
• 24:54
  actually had to. I I couldn't make any product
• 24:56
  for like 10 months and then so I eventually stopped making it.
• 25:00
  You know, like Walmart, Target, they're they're they're mass
• 25:03
  producing all of this garbage. It's kind of like the boutique
• 25:06
  cigar world. You can have these or and like
• 25:08
  cigar, you have all of these cigars that are just mass
• 25:12
  produced that you can sell for $5 and people are going to buy
• 25:16
  it. But like you know, like the
• 25:18
  these cigars that are $3040 that are just handcrafted just with
• 25:24
  with all of this exceptional ingredients and very few people
• 25:27
  are going to buy those. It's the same thing with my with
• 25:29
  my beard product. It was it was a little on the
• 25:31
  expensive side but it was handmade with the with the best
• 25:34
  ingredients. So feel.
• 25:37
  Free to send some to me because you know I need I need to put
• 25:41
  that up there and but we will also make trash panda cigars
• 25:47
  sponsor. You know, but but as, but as in
• 25:50
  length, you know, like I said, if after about 18 months to two
• 25:54
  years, if your beard's going to be as long as it's ever going to
• 25:57
  be, you know, so it's never going to, it's never going to
• 25:59
  keep growing. Every all, all hair on the human
• 26:02
  body has what's called terminal length, whether it's the hair on
• 26:05
  your head, the your hair on your arms, your hair on your arms
• 26:08
  doesn't keep growing because it has terminal length, you know.
• 26:11
  So same with the beard on your face.
• 26:13
  Some guys, it will keep growing forever.
• 26:15
  Same with their hair, you know, But that's very few.
• 26:19
  Let's ask this so and I'm going to put this out there because
• 26:26
  listen, my wife is sleeping, but so when you go down.
• 26:30
  We're not. Does it affect them?
• 26:33
  We're not going to talk about. That on here?
• 26:35
  Yeah. You, you, I'll tell you, you,
• 26:38
  you, you want to get flagged on YouTube, we're already smoking
• 26:41
  cigars, says Keep. Keep going with that.
• 26:43
  Yeah, that. Before so.
• 26:45
  Yeah, That's it. Yeah.
• 26:46
  You. You.
• 26:48
  You YouTube, YouTube will flag my my account, you know, So
• 26:52
  yeah. We're already in enough trouble
• 26:55
  because we're on here smoking cigars.
• 26:57
  Which is? Which is have?
• 26:58
  Have you guys gotten any strikes or anything yet?
• 27:02
  Nothing yet. Nothing yet.
• 27:05
  Nothing yet I I monitor the YouTube account but I haven't
• 27:08
  gotten anything I don't think. Which?
• 27:11
  Which is good. The e-mail.
• 27:13
  Which is good. Yeah, you know the the the best
• 27:16
  thing is, is making sure you don't have links in your video
• 27:21
  description to sites that sell tobacco.
• 27:25
  That's the number one thing. I make sure that that's one
• 27:28
  thing I don't do is like if I'm doing an interview with you or
• 27:32
  or ish or somebody, I make sure I don't put.
• 27:35
  Yeah, what, what? What?
• 27:36
  What I do is I I put the links to my guest social media because
• 27:40
  that's not, you know, 'cause you can't.
• 27:41
  So I'll, I'll put their Instagram link.
• 27:43
  That's why I always say, hey, in the show notes, you know, you
• 27:46
  can find the social medias of our guests, you know, so their
• 27:49
  their Instagram or their Twitter, you know, So if you go
• 27:53
  to their Instagram, then you can eventually go to their website
• 27:56
  as well. But it's not a direct link.
• 27:58
  So YouTube's OK with their Instagram, their Twitter, You
• 28:03
  know, they're TikTok, They're LinkedIn.
• 28:05
  So I've even. Done the you know if you Google,
• 28:10
  you know like like sand I said if you Google SP1014 I said I'm
• 28:14
  pretty sure you can find his website like.
• 28:17
  Yeah and and then and then you can you can tell people you can
• 28:19
  say go to you know sandrasmokeshop.com and you know
• 28:23
  whatever you know but you know but that's not a clickable link
• 28:27
  you. Know yeah, I I always make sure
• 28:29
  to not have a clickable link. Yeah, send.
• 28:33
  OG send OGA picture that you want and I'm going to I'm going
• 28:39
  to pay for the fucking box to get done.
• 28:42
  So send OGA picture that you want on your box.
• 28:47
  He does. He does travel.
• 28:49
  Humidors. Custom Travel Humidors.
• 28:52
  Oh yeah, that's cool. Yeah, I just personalize them.
• 28:58
  Yeah, I just personalize them to what people want.
• 29:00
  I I found when I was when I first got into it, you know,
• 29:06
  everything was mundane and black and you know, all these these
• 29:09
  plastic humidors are all black and stuff.
• 29:12
  And I one day just decided that I needed something for me.
• 29:16
  So I made my own, brought it to the lounge and well made.
• 29:19
  Everybody loved it and it kind of took off from there.
• 29:22
  And then a year later I finally pulled the trigger and started a
• 29:25
  company making them. So that's kind of the the short
• 29:28
  of the long in that one. That's cool.
• 29:31
  Yeah, Jessica does. She does Modge Podge.
• 29:34
  She does. Just for like us and friends.
• 29:36
  She doesn't sell. Yeah, I I actually, she just
• 29:38
  takes my I put a label I one year for Christmas.
• 29:41
  I took his one of his humidors and I I had 'cause I have bags
• 29:47
  of labels laying all around my house.
• 29:48
  So I put labels that he of cigars that I know he likes and
• 29:53
  I put them all over the humidor and then I sealed it with the
• 29:58
  the Modge Podge seal. I let it sit and then I went and
• 30:03
  bought cigars. I put cigars inside of it and
• 30:05
  then I wrapped it up and gave it to him as a gift.
• 30:08
  So I basically re gifted him his own humidor that I got.
• 30:12
  To this day I still got humidor and guess what I have I have.
• 30:17
  One that I did I have one that I did for myself.
• 30:20
  My Gurkha 40 count that I it's my Gurkha 40 count that I bought
• 30:28
  on cigar bid. Now you know that those are now
• 30:32
  you know that those, those Unidos go for like 50-60 bucks.
• 30:38
  Easy. I got it on cigar bid for like
• 30:41
  $17.00. Oh wow, that's a good price.
• 30:48
  So yeah. What was I that humidor?
• 30:52
  I use it. I have to, I have to redo it,
• 30:55
  sit down, put the new put labels on them now and then I I
• 30:58
  actually have to seal it because I never sealed it the first
• 31:01
  time. So all the labels that are on
• 31:03
  there are starting to rip off and and peel off and chip off.
• 31:06
  So I'm going to wind up having to go through taking all the old
• 31:09
  labels off, putting all new labels on and then sealing it up
• 31:14
  and leaving it if I ever decide to use it again.
• 31:17
  But I I've been using, I've honestly, I've just been using
• 31:21
  this that I got from Zifi. Yeah, I love this little thing,
• 31:26
  this 5-6 count humidor. It's great.
• 31:29
  I don't really travel with my big one too much anymore.
• 31:34
  Yeah, same here. You know, you talk about labels.
• 31:37
  You know, if you're ever to break into my house and you were
• 31:39
  like, looking for stuff. Through all the drawers.
• 31:42
  You, you, you would every every drawer you would open up would
• 31:45
  have cigar labels in it. We have 10s of thousands like
• 31:48
  like just a random drawer like in the kitchen you'd it'd be
• 31:51
  full of we just run out of like oh let's just pack this drawer
• 31:54
  cigar. We have garbage bags with cigar
• 31:56
  labels. Are you saying Are you saying so
• 32:00
  when you go into the knife drawer, there's cigar labels.
• 32:04
  There, there's a pretty good chance you're going to find at
• 32:06
  least a cigar label, and then there are some drawers that that
• 32:08
  are 100% full of cigars. Do I have labels?
• 32:12
  Where we're sitting now to do this all over this table,
• 32:14
  there's probably labels. I have labels in my room on the
• 32:16
  floor that fell out of pockets. Labels in backpacks, labels in a
• 32:21
  bag, labels in cups on my dresser.
• 32:24
  I got labels. I I mean all over my house.
• 32:27
  Oh Gee. And it just if it's something I
• 32:29
  haven't smoked or somebody smoked that I haven't had yet,
• 32:32
  I'll take that label from them. I'll hold on to it until I can
• 32:35
  get one and then I'll just, I have the next label now.
• 32:40
  So, OG, what do you got to say to Kevin?
• 32:45
  Listen, I'm, I'm enjoying listening to him talk.
• 32:49
  This is fascinating. Listen, I we're, you know, we're
• 32:53
  newbies in this whole social media podcast thing.
• 32:57
  So man, any advice you got for us as we March along?
• 33:01
  I think we just hit our 23rd episode.
• 33:04
  I feel like we're getting better as the days goes on.
• 33:07
  But you know, Kevin, do you got any advice for us as we go
• 33:11
  forward? Just just keep doing it.
• 33:14
  Keep keep, you know, keeping notes of what you like and don't
• 33:18
  like, you know, and it's just it's just evolving.
• 33:20
  I look at you know like like Karen I, my Co host.
• 33:23
  So you wrote cigars you know cares on the show with me
• 33:25
  tonight. You know, I I think as in the
• 33:27
  the the live shows on YouTube. I think we're the second most
• 33:32
  watched weekly live show on on YouTube right behind Cigar
• 33:36
  Authority podcast. And I think we do a fantastic
• 33:40
  job. But if you go back and you watch
• 33:41
  some of my like earlier shows, I had no idea what I was doing.
• 33:47
  I mean, I hate watching some of those.
• 33:49
  It's like, God, you're so dumb and you asked all those fucking
• 33:54
  questions and but but you you just get better.
• 33:58
  You just evolve, you know, and that's it.
• 34:01
  It's. It's funny because, you know,
• 34:05
  that's my best friend right there.
• 34:07
  That's my best friend. And I got my son.
• 34:10
  And guess what? We've never thought that we
• 34:14
  would be on 23 episodes before the new year.
• 34:19
  We never thought that. We never thought.
• 34:22
  Yeah I'm yeah, I thought. I thought this was like you know
• 34:26
  3-4 shows we get bored with it kind of move on you know do you
• 34:30
  know and and kind of give up on it and it just it we're excited
• 34:34
  for the every time. We're excited for the next
• 34:36
  episode you know and and trying to plan on who our guests are
• 34:41
  going to be, where we're going to do the show from because we
• 34:43
  we really like being in lounges and kind of pumping the lounges
• 34:47
  we go to and stuff like that and we're.
• 34:49
  Going to find lounges that'll allow us to do that.
• 34:51
  That's the only issue up here, yeah.
• 34:54
  And and up here, you know, you have to travel a minimum of like
• 34:57
  45 minutes to get to a nearest. Lounge to a hour.
• 35:01
  So yeah, you know, and. That's the only part that sucks.
• 35:05
  Well that's it you know you know it's you know but there's
• 35:08
  nothing wrong with doing it from where you guys are AT and having
• 35:10
  having your guest on. Yeah.
• 35:11
  It's that's always the biggest thing trying to find guest you
• 35:15
  know you know and and you know and consistently I mean I mean
• 35:19
  we're usually consistently about two months you know behind but I
• 35:22
  remember being just a couple of weeks behind you know of not you
• 35:26
  know like oh who's going to come on and.
• 35:28
  You know so. We appreciate you coming on
• 35:31
  Kevin, and thank you for jumping on my brother.
• 35:36
  Listen, you are the last guy for the the New Year's coming on and
• 35:43
  we appreciate you coming on. And yes, my son makes fun of my
• 35:47
  voice because it is what it is. But.
• 35:51
  You know what? So, so Kevin, I I just got a
• 35:55
  text. I got a text from somebody who's
• 35:57
  watching. I need to apologize to you.
• 35:59
  I apparently earlier in the show called you Derek, so I
• 36:03
  apologize. I was told to apologize to you
• 36:05
  for that. Did you?
• 36:06
  I I didn't. I didn't even.
• 36:07
  I didn't even catch it. I I apparently I didn't either,
• 36:10
  but it was just brought to my attention and there's some
• 36:13
  expletives in there that you're in basically a dummy in the kind
• 36:18
  of words. So my apologies my friend.
• 36:22
  No, no, no worries at all. I didn't even didn't even catch
• 36:25
  it, you know and thank you, thank you Karen.
• 36:27
  Thank you Ish for the for the kind words.
• 36:31
  So we got ish coming on here, Ishmael Olivan for January 7th.
• 36:37
  We got him coming on on on podcast.
• 36:40
  And Kevin, please tune in. And everybody that follows us,
• 36:45
  make sure you follow Kevin. My man, Trash panda cigars.
• 36:50
  Yo, all I got to say is this. Yo, I'm going to order trash
• 36:55
  panda cigars. I I kind of, I kind of want the
• 36:58
  laces out just because it's where it's from, that's all.
• 37:01
  Wait, wait, wait. I want the laces out because,
• 37:04
  you know, it's it's, listen, laces have to be out.
• 37:07
  It's Ray Finger. Laces out, Dan.
• 37:10
  You know, it's every time. So everybody, you know, so I
• 37:14
  could be in a conversation anywhere and I, you know, and I
• 37:17
  can pull out a quote from from that movie no matter what.
• 37:22
  Then I'll be somewhere. And then someone will talk about
• 37:25
  like, like the pressure of what they're going through in their
• 37:28
  lives. And if and if I'm with my buddy
• 37:30
  Brian, you know, sort of like, oh, I'm under so much pressure
• 37:32
  and I'll be like, what do you know about pressure?
• 37:34
  And then, like, my buddy Brian is like, well, he goes, well, I
• 37:37
  have kissed the man. So if you don't know, like that
• 37:40
  movie, like you'll look at like him, like, wait, what?
• 37:44
  You know, what are we talking about?
• 37:45
  Here, you know I do with that is I turn around and do just like
• 37:48
  he does and I talk with the other end, yes.
• 37:50
  Yeah, yeah. If you don't talk with your
• 37:53
  other end, are you actually doing it right?
• 37:55
  Yeah, yeah, so. Laces out, yo.
• 38:00
  Trash man. The cigars, yo.
• 38:02
  On that note, we're going to take a commercial break.
• 38:05
  Yo. Ring that fucking bell, yo.
• 38:14
  We're back. We're back.
• 38:15
  We're back. We're back.
• 38:17
  We're still live, ladies and gentlemen.
• 38:19
  So so Kevin tell us about laces out and how you how you came
• 38:25
  about. Well, we.
• 38:26
  Know how we know how he came up with the name.
• 38:29
  We just discussed how you up with the name.
• 38:32
  Yeah so I mean that that that's that's my that's my favorite
• 38:34
  movie you know when I when I was looking to to make a laces out
• 38:39
  as a one and done cigar you know it uses a a very rare Dominican
• 38:43
  broadleaf. It's only grown as like 1 crop
• 38:46
  and it was like a test crop and so I only had an X amount of
• 38:49
  cigars. So we're always trying to come
• 38:51
  up with cool names, you know, for for our cigars.
• 38:54
  And yeah, I just, I'm a big Miami Dolphins fan, big fan of
• 38:58
  the Lace Ventura, you know. So yeah, Lace is.
• 39:03
  Did you see what Danny said? Oh, what?
• 39:06
  What did it Where? He said Either this is a man or
• 39:09
  she has the worst case of hemorrhoids I've ever seen.
• 39:11
  Oh, exactly. There's.
• 39:14
  Tin Winky, Yeah. So, yeah.
• 39:16
  So I was asking, yeah, the Einhorn Finkle Finkle is
• 39:22
  Einhorn. Yo-yo, come here.
• 39:26
  You got to put out, you got to put out your fucking, you got to
• 39:29
  put out Cigar called Iron Horn. Iron Horse.
• 39:35
  No, I think what he was trying to say was Einhorn.
• 39:38
  Oh, Einhorn. Or come up with one that says
• 39:41
  Finkel is Einhorn, yeah. Yeah so so we we've got we've
• 39:45
  got some some cigars coming out with other movie references as
• 39:49
  well. You know we'll you know we'll
• 39:51
  we'll leave Ace Ventura and we'll go on to another one.
• 39:53
  We've got some cool some cool names that that once once you
• 39:58
  hear the name you automatically know the movie.
• 40:01
  You know, it's just, you know, so it's yeah, so yeah, yeah,
• 40:05
  we've got a few different ones coming out.
• 40:07
  You know, I want to like when I've seen that lace, when I saw
• 40:10
  laces out and I went on your website and did a little, you
• 40:13
  know, poking around just to see what was out, like just to see
• 40:15
  what you know what other ones you had.
• 40:18
  I saw the laces out and then I saw that it comes certain ones
• 40:22
  come with the the trash can. I think that's a that's a cool
• 40:27
  thing. You know, yeah, yeah that's
• 40:29
  yeah, that's our other cigar. The that that's actually what
• 40:32
  I'm smoking right now is the the cert myth Bruce Gar you know
• 40:35
  which is Irish for real good trash and that's you know so
• 40:40
  yeah that one comes like a little a little trash can.
• 40:43
  That that's cool. I mean he.
• 40:44
  Said real good trash. You know, I definitely will.
• 40:49
  I definitely will be ordering at least the leases out because you
• 40:54
  know, I just, I just want them just to put in the humidor just
• 40:57
  to say that they're there to know that they're there.
• 41:00
  You know, this way when they're when you know, when you don't
• 41:03
  have them anymore or anything like that.
• 41:04
  I could say, well, you know, hey, I got some.
• 41:06
  Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, 'cause, yeah,
• 41:08
  they're they're one and done. So once they're gone, they're
• 41:10
  they're gonna, they're gonna be gone.
• 41:11
  You. Don't have any.
• 41:12
  I mean, that's your problem. I have some.
• 41:13
  But hey, listen, that's that's not my problem.
• 41:15
  That's your problem. You don't have any.
• 41:17
  Yeah. Well, OG, what do you got to say
• 41:21
  to my man Kevin, right? There, Listen, man, I I, I'm
• 41:27
  just like I said, I'm just a a big fan.
• 41:29
  Just sitting back and just having a good time listening and
• 41:33
  hearing the stories and where he's come from and where the
• 41:35
  cigars come from and still oogling his set up there.
• 41:40
  That's just that's just absolutely killer.
• 41:43
  And the fact that now you got to walk in Humidor, now jealousy is
• 41:48
  just running fire through my body right now.
• 41:51
  Jealousy. Said it.
• 41:53
  You know but yeah I mean we we start we started off in my
• 41:56
  garage you know with a with a little back with a backdrop you
• 41:59
  know so I mean you don't have to have you know a fancy lounge or
• 42:03
  you don't have to have a a a great space.
• 42:05
  Like I said, we just start, we just started off in the garage
• 42:08
  and then you know and then built our our last office which we
• 42:11
  outgrew that pretty quick and now we're in here and you know
• 42:14
  it's just all about progression. It's all about trying to do
• 42:16
  better, trying to be better and just and and and you know
• 42:20
  keeping keeping at it. Listen, I'm going to shout out
• 42:24
  to Kevin's wife because she's the one that said to Kevin, Make
• 42:30
  sure you make that that humidor shout out to Kevin's wife.
• 42:35
  Yeah, yeah, she she's definitely been my, my biggest cheerleader,
• 42:39
  you know, of just, just. We say hello.
• 42:45
  Yeah So yeah just when when just to keep pushing me to to do
• 42:50
  better and and to just keep innovating and you know it's and
• 42:55
  just being there to and same with my buddy care.
• 42:58
  Care is my best friend that that's on there and and and he's
• 43:00
  helped me out a lot as as well and it's just not always giving
• 43:05
  advice but just listening because sometimes I you know I
• 43:08
  just throw up words and just start talking and then that's
• 43:12
  what that's what you need When you're and you're innovative you
• 43:14
  don't necessarily need somebody to to give you their input.
• 43:18
  You know you just need somebody to listen.
• 43:20
  You know because I'm the type of person I just I just keep
• 43:23
  talking. I was on a a conference call
• 43:27
  Thursday night you know with with a guy that we want to have
• 43:31
  him make some 3D parts for us for trash panda cigars and just
• 43:35
  talking with him and and we were just both talking back and forth
• 43:39
  and then it just we each came up with different ideas him for his
• 43:43
  company. I'm like, oh, hey, I got
• 43:43
  something for your company. So sometimes you just need
• 43:46
  someone to talk to, to just just throw up words just throw up.
• 43:50
  Not even bouncing. I didn't just throw up words.
• 43:52
  And then it just clicks. You're like, Oh my God, yes,
• 43:55
  let's do this, let's do that. And that's what Jessica's is
• 43:58
  really good at. I when I texted you and through
• 44:03
  Instagram, when I texted you through Instagram, it said, hey,
• 44:07
  do you want to come on my life with our podcast?
• 44:11
  What was your answer? Yes, because because because I I
• 44:17
  was where you guys were at, you know at one time, you know it's
• 44:21
  just starting off and and you and you you always need to get
• 44:24
  you know a guest to come on. And it's just sometimes it's
• 44:27
  it's it's tough, you know, and you guys are real tough because
• 44:30
  you guys go live at 9:00 or 8:30 in the morning on a Sunday.
• 44:34
  Well, and that's, you know, that's what we've been learning.
• 44:37
  Thankfully, you know MBR has kind of split off two separate
• 44:45
  stations. They have a a talk station and
• 44:47
  they have hours where we are, you know and and we have the
• 44:51
  time to play around with the time slots which is nice.
• 44:54
  So you know we always tell our guests, you know we can go live
• 44:59
  at 8:30 is our normal time. But if you know you need to go
• 45:03
  live later, let us know so that we can schedule it and do the
• 45:07
  advertisement right. You know, put.
• 45:09
  In. Yeah, or the the studio, you
• 45:13
  know, we created on here. It gets sent out to our
• 45:18
  Facebook, YouTube, you know their Facebook, YouTube, Twitch,
• 45:22
  wherever. This way, people know what time
• 45:25
  we're coming. So now let's.
• 45:27
  Go to and and I like view of the week.
• 45:29
  This is the interview of the week.
• 45:30
  I like Danny. I like Danny's comment the make
• 45:34
  a wedding crasher cigar called Stage 5 Clinger.
• 45:37
  Or you can make one called Ouch. Ouch.
• 45:38
  Yeah, yeah. This is that one.
• 45:43
  So yeah, so, so I got to say, I got to say though, what's
• 45:48
  fantastic about my experience with the podcast so far is to go
• 45:54
  back to what I'd said earlier. I didn't imagine coming this
• 45:57
  far. I don't think we would have if
• 45:59
  we weren't friends in real life. Meaning if we only if I only
• 46:04
  knew these guys through Instagram and we never met in
• 46:06
  person and never got to know each other, I don't know that we
• 46:11
  would have made 23 episodes. What's comforting is knowing I'm
• 46:14
  coming on here with these guys, these my friends, and it makes
• 46:20
  it so much easier. So when we don't have guests and
• 46:23
  it's just the three of us, we can take the ball and run with
• 46:25
  it, which is really comforting from a newbie in in podcast to
• 46:31
  be able to do that. The second thing is you know
• 46:35
  we're we're using this time slot right now for what it is to
• 46:38
  build up an audience. And then once that audience is
• 46:41
  built up then we'll look at different time slots and like
• 46:44
  you said, the progression of you know, improving the show and
• 46:49
  getting more into what do you want to call it a like a prime
• 46:53
  time, you know, time slot versus an 830 on a Sunday, you know.
• 47:01
  Yeah, yeah, 'cause you're not, you're not going to get Steve
• 47:03
  Socca to come on at 8:30 on a Sunday.
• 47:05
  I can tell you that right now. Yeah, I will.
• 47:07
  No, listen, listen. You know, Kevin.
• 47:11
  I'm going to get Steve Socca coming on.
• 47:13
  Steve's going to come on here, 'cause when I send him a
• 47:16
  message, I'm like, yo, Steve, come on, We just had Kevin on
• 47:19
  and he's going to be like, at 8:30 in the morning.
• 47:22
  I'm like, Yep, he's like, so I'm going to put, I'm going.
• 47:27
  To not. Not a chance.
• 47:29
  In hell? Not a chance.
• 47:31
  In. The morning.
• 47:34
  Hold on, hold on, hold on. So.
• 47:36
  Are we taking Are we taking wagers on this?
• 47:39
  I'll put some money on this. Let's let's take a bet.
• 47:46
  I'm going to bet with. I'm going to bet with Kevin
• 47:49
  right here. I'm going to bet with Kevin
• 47:51
  right here. We going to do a bet right?
• 47:53
  Now we're not. I'm not.
• 47:55
  I'm not. I'm not taking your money.
• 47:56
  I'm not taking your money. I'm.
• 47:59
  I'm. I'm friends with Steve.
• 48:01
  Steve. She's a friend.
• 48:02
  I know Steve. Yeah, you know Steve.
• 48:05
  Steve. Steve, Steve was pissed, pissed
• 48:09
  off that he was on that I took off.
• 48:12
  We were on last night, 730 on a Saturday night.
• 48:15
  He was already pissed off, but I was taking, you know, his his
• 48:18
  Saturday night away from him. So yeah, you want to take his
• 48:21
  Sunday morning? Yeah, Yeah.
• 48:23
  Listen, let's do, let's do Sunday morning, yo, Steve,
• 48:29
  Steve, come on Sunday morning. That's not happening because I'm
• 48:32
  going to, I'm going to bet Kevin right now.
• 48:35
  He already said he's not taking your money.
• 48:37
  Excuse me? But.
• 48:38
  You don't listen, so I have to repeat it.
• 48:41
  You're. Right.
• 48:42
  I don't listen. So, so, so you're not going
• 48:45
  back. Because he's not making your
• 48:46
  money so. I'm going to right?
• 48:50
  Now there's no back. So yeah, yeah, yeah the first
• 48:56
  time. But yeah it's it's so it's it's
• 48:59
  tough It's, I mean it's tough we we do Monday nights at 7:30 and
• 49:04
  sometimes it's tough to get a Monday night.
• 49:06
  You know that that's not a that's that's not a good, that's
• 49:09
  not the greatest time you know, but you know you know you know
• 49:12
  it's it's tough. We got other shows that are on
• 49:14
  Friday nights. Saturday nights.
• 49:16
  We just try never to compete with with other shows.
• 49:18
  You know, it's how we started off at the beginning.
• 49:21
  Yeah, I know. It's it's definitely tough.
• 49:23
  I mean, we've played around with different time slots.
• 49:26
  You know, like we did, we did a show on a Saturday because the
• 49:32
  guest wanted to come on on Saturday.
• 49:33
  They said, no, that's not that guest.
• 49:37
  You dummy. Do me a favor, be quiet while
• 49:41
  I'm talking. Thank you.
• 49:43
  No, we've done Saturdays. Sunday mornings is is definitely
• 49:48
  tough because it's just it's it's early and you can't go
• 49:54
  later on into Sunday 'cause then you're competing with football
• 49:57
  season right now. So it's really.
• 50:00
  Tough. It's really.
• 50:02
  Yeah you know it it it is tough. I mean I I don't think football
• 50:05
  season with with most, I think most guests that that we have on
• 50:08
  most people in the cigar world. You know, it's not like they
• 50:11
  don't care about football. But you know, if if it's to
• 50:13
  promote their brand, you know they're, they're not going to
• 50:16
  Care. Now your live viewer, your live
• 50:19
  viewers, might. Here's Derek Dukes.
• 50:24
  Yeah, what's going on, Derek? So.
• 50:27
  Yeah, there you go, he said. Kevin, you sexy son bitch.
• 50:31
  I think one of my favorite pictures I ever got when I I I
• 50:34
  have my my belt, my my WWE style belt that I won from the Battle
• 50:39
  of the bands at Smoke In. And I got to take a picture with
• 50:42
  Derek at Smoke in Boynton Beach. He had his, he, he had his, he
• 50:46
  had his legit belt. And then I had my belt that I
• 50:49
  won and I got to take a picture with Derek and his belt and and
• 50:53
  that was one of my favorite pictures and and and favorite
• 50:56
  moments. I'm like, oh, this is so cool,
• 50:57
  you know that? I have, I have pictures and I
• 51:02
  couldn't post them up because my my wife said no, don't put.
• 51:06
  She said don't, She said don't hang them up because they are,
• 51:08
  they're old, they're nice pictures.
• 51:10
  They're blown up, they're not in the frame.
• 51:12
  So she doesn't want them to get, you know, dirty or anything like
• 51:15
  that. Oh yeah, He has pitchers under
• 51:17
  his mattress of him with the smoking guns and with Medusa.
• 51:24
  Oh. Yeah, under under your mattress.
• 51:26
  That's kind of a weird place. Well.
• 51:28
  Because that's the only that's the only place.
• 51:31
  That's the only place that keeps them totally flat.
• 51:34
  Slow down. Cameron We need to keep them
• 51:37
  flat. Because get your holes.
• 51:39
  I haven't found a frame big enough.
• 51:42
  I haven't found a frame big enough for them and right now we
• 51:45
  have nowhere to hang them in here.
• 51:47
  OK. So the plan is eventually to
• 51:50
  redo this little room that we're in and hang up.
• 51:53
  You know, as you can see, I got the barn smoker, the sun growing
• 51:57
  in the Herrera Estelle flags behind me.
• 51:59
  The plan is to eventually make this kind of a little studio or
• 52:04
  at least have, you know, a backdrop with different pictures
• 52:07
  and stuff like that. So eventually that's the plan,
• 52:10
  but the ultimate plan would be to get into a house and have a
• 52:12
  set a a room like you have, you know, dedicated to just this.
• 52:16
  Oh yeah, gonna. Buy a big house?
• 52:19
  No. And I got to buy a big house and
• 52:22
  I got to make the garage. No, you.
• 52:24
  Don't. No, you don't do all that.
• 52:27
  You don't have to do all that. What I'm saying is, you know,
• 52:31
  even if you make a room, a studio, you know what, That's a
• 52:34
  place for us to go smoke, you know, and and not have to worry
• 52:39
  about, you know, what lounge we're going to film in that week
• 52:42
  because we have a built in one. Yeah, that, that makes it nice,
• 52:46
  you know, with a dedicated camera set up, you know, like,
• 52:49
  you know, like I have here, like dedicated camera.
• 52:52
  I mean, I can go live in five seconds, you know, someone you
• 52:55
  know says, hey, I need you to come on the show.
• 52:58
  I have dedicated cameras set up all the time, computer here in
• 53:03
  in a matter of seconds I can be up and running and that's and
• 53:07
  that's what makes it nice. Kevin, can you show us all the
• 53:14
  cigars that you have in your humidor right now?
• 53:18
  There actually there are Humidor.
• 53:19
  So I don't have anything in the walk in Humidor because we're
• 53:22
  still building that. So I have, I have cigars.
• 53:25
  I have two Igloo coolers in here like the big 180 quarts.
• 53:30
  I I I have two of those. So I do.
• 53:33
  I I I do have two like an an 800 count humidor of a 1200 count
• 53:39
  humidor in here. But then in in our bedroom right
• 53:42
  now is where my big My Big Humidor is.
• 53:45
  That's got a couple. 1000 you. Got to have a lot of cigars,
• 53:49
  that's you know. They're, they're natural.
• 53:51
  We we we probably have 24 tupper doors, you know full of full of
• 53:56
  full of cigars. I've probably got a dozen
• 53:59
  desktop humidors. Those are all in my bedroom
• 54:01
  right now, but. That's that's a lot of cigars.
• 54:05
  It it's a lot. That was the reason why we
• 54:06
  really needed a a walk in humidor is because like I said
• 54:09
  it's just I'm constantly, at least a couple times a week I'm
• 54:13
  going through all, I don't know what I want to smoke.
• 54:16
  So it sometimes it'll take me an hour to go through all my
• 54:19
  humidors Tupper doors just to find a cigar that that that I
• 54:23
  want, that that I want to smoke. That's the website for everybody
• 54:27
  that was wondering. That's the website.
• 54:32
  That's the website. See, you guys want to know where
• 54:36
  you can get them. That's where you can get them.
• 54:39
  That's it. I appreciate that.
• 54:40
  You can get the merch everything.
• 54:43
  So on that note, we going to commercial break.
• 54:46
  No, I'm almost done. So we're gonna we're gonna keep
• 54:49
  this going. You know, 'cause this is this is
• 54:52
  a great. Oh, look, there's H hey, look.
• 54:54
  Hi. HH Hi.
• 54:56
  H there he is. That's our producer.
• 54:58
  That's our producer. That's our producer in a second.
• 55:01
  Hold on. Hey, we're back to four people.
• 55:05
  Look at that. So.
• 55:07
  We're back to three, yo. I'm sorry guys.
• 55:14
  No, that's OK. It's right now.
• 55:16
  See, this is, this is the fun we have on here, Kevin.
• 55:19
  We love to have this kind of fun.
• 55:20
  It's great. I love, I love being able to
• 55:23
  message the producer when he pops on the screen because I
• 55:25
  think it's hilarious. So Kevin, tell us about all the
• 55:31
  cigars that you put in a $5 pack.
• 55:36
  So it's it's 50 bucks. He's needed the the five packs
• 55:40
  of all your your vintage stuff and why you're you know like you
• 55:44
  said earlier you touched on it a little bit you know because
• 55:47
  you're kind of your cigars took a back seat to all the vintage
• 55:51
  stuff. So now if I'm now correct me if
• 55:55
  I'm wrong, the the, the way you are getting and I don't want to
• 55:59
  say getting rid of, but the way you are expediting your vintage
• 56:04
  cigars to be out of the humidor so you can focus on yours is
• 56:07
  through these these 5 packs, correct?
• 56:09
  Yeah, you know because we we started off, I mean because we
• 56:12
  we've had some boxes, lots of boxes of vintage cigars and some
• 56:16
  of them weren't selling you know and which is hard for some
• 56:19
  people because I mean we just sold a the Avvo anniversary box
• 56:24
  now that was an $800 box of cigars.
• 56:27
  You know that that I sold, you know, some of these boxes are
• 56:31
  5600 dollars $700.00 for these 10/12/15 year old cigars and
• 56:36
  some people just can't afford that.
• 56:37
  I understand that it's hard to to spend $500 on on a box of on
• 56:42
  a box of cigars. So we when we decided that you
• 56:45
  were going to start liquidating our our inventory and just
• 56:48
  really pushing them, I opened up all those cigars, all those
• 56:51
  boxes. And that's one thing I've never
• 56:53
  done out of all the vintage cigars I've ever sold.
• 56:56
  I've never opened the boxes and and some of the and I and I've
• 57:00
  always and I always tell people I go do me a favor and when you
• 57:02
  open up the boxes please send me a picture.
• 57:04
  I want to know what they look like because some of the the
• 57:07
  some of the old packaging is so beautiful.
• 57:09
  But I've never broken the seal on any of these because some
• 57:12
  people just collect them and I've got some guys that say, oh
• 57:15
  I'm I'm, I'm only buying these. I'm never smoking them.
• 57:17
  I'm putting these in my humidor and they're going to stay there
• 57:19
  forever. And I'm like, you know.
• 57:21
  So you know, vintage like I've I've found.
• 57:25
  So. So I'm sure you've I don't know
• 57:27
  if you've heard of it, but you know Sam Lucia and his Lucia,
• 57:31
  tobacco and all. That yeah, yeah.
• 57:32
  Of. Course, so I've been fortunate
• 57:35
  enough to find some shops that have those that I've been able
• 57:39
  to get my hands on and people are like, you're smoking them.
• 57:41
  I'm like, that's what they were meant for, was to be smoked.
• 57:46
  They they, they are. So I I found a couple of old.
• 57:49
  I found an original box of Daruma from room 101 and it's
• 57:54
  just sealed and I hung on to that box forever and and
• 57:58
  finally, you know Matt Booth, you know, had told me, you know
• 58:01
  he's like bro, open the box and smoke the cigar.
• 58:05
  That's that's what I made him. Feel free, feel free to send
• 58:09
  some oh. Those are probably all smoke
• 58:11
  them. Free to send some he.
• 58:12
  Probably smoked them all. No, it's I've.
• 58:15
  I've got like 5 left and like and and just.
• 58:18
  And there's only three of us, so.
• 58:19
  So the. Only three of us.
• 58:21
  I have a hard time smoking them because they're once they're
• 58:23
  gone, they're gone. I mean, yeah.
• 58:26
  I mean, they're never coming back.
• 58:28
  So the the one box that you have on there the I think you said it
• 58:33
  was made for you guys or by by I think it was booth or somebody
• 58:39
  the the all black box. Oh, that was by Espinosa, the
• 58:42
  back in black. Yes, that one.
• 58:45
  Yes, that was the one I was thinking of.
• 58:47
  Yeah, that one we we we're probably going to redo that one.
• 58:50
  That one, that one went over really well.
• 58:52
  It's a really strong cigar, so we might come back out with that
• 58:55
  cigar. That's that's right up my alley.
• 58:57
  I love that really strong, strong stuff.
• 59:01
  Feel free to send each one of us a cigar we appreciate.
• 59:05
  No, we won't do that to him. No, I'm just.
• 59:07
  Ready to do that to him? I know.
• 59:08
  But listen, I know what it's like to get your hands on those.
• 59:11
  You know, the the vintage cigars.
• 59:13
  Are cigars not made by, you know, other companies anymore
• 59:17
  like the like the Luchadors, like the Lucia tobacco, you
• 59:20
  know, the the black and the white.
• 59:21
  Like when I get my hands on them, I buy five or six and I'll
• 59:26
  smoke one or two and the rest will sit there and everybody
• 59:30
  goes, why are they sitting there?
• 59:31
  I sit because I have to go back and get more before I can smoke
• 59:33
  those. So I make sure I always have
• 59:35
  some in my humidor. I'm I'm with you.
• 59:37
  I sat on a a a couple of luchadors for like 6 months and
• 59:42
  I'm like you know what, to hell with it.
• 59:45
  I I'm just, I'm just gonna. I'm just gonna smoke them.
• 59:47
  And I smoked them both and they were and they were so, so good.
• 59:51
  And there's I I had been going through my personal vintage
• 59:55
  supply and I have just been just saying the hell with it.
• 59:58
  And I've been opening them up and smoking some of them.
• 1:00:00
  Is like, I've had people tell me, oh, I'm, you know, like you
• 1:00:03
  said, I'm holding on to all these.
• 1:00:05
  You know why? Why?
• 1:00:06
  Yeah, well, and and you know, Pedro, just probably as well as
• 1:00:09
  I do, Pedro said to me one day, 'cause I was saving my A from
• 1:00:14
  the Barnsmoker, 'cause I knew, like you said, I'll never get it
• 1:00:17
  again until Barnsmoker. And you know, I didn't smoke it.
• 1:00:21
  And he, he had said to me or to somebody else that I know and
• 1:00:27
  was like, you know, hey, why are you going to, what are you
• 1:00:30
  saving that for? And they said, well, special
• 1:00:32
  occasion. He said, Well, what happens if
• 1:00:33
  you never make it to that special occasion?
• 1:00:36
  Why not smoke it today and make today that special occasion,
• 1:00:40
  right? You know and and and and I don't
• 1:00:43
  and I don't smoke. I don't have those special
• 1:00:48
  occasion cigars where I smoke like like some people will have.
• 1:00:51
  You know they'll they'll have their Dunbart and tobacco and
• 1:00:56
  trust. There are the unicorns $100
• 1:00:58
  cigar and they don't they don't have that and and they don't
• 1:01:02
  they're waiting for to to smoke that during a first special
• 1:01:05
  occasion and Steve Sacca said something years ago and he he's
• 1:01:09
  A and that's what got me to doing the same thing.
• 1:01:11
  He goes he doesn't believe in that because what happens God
• 1:01:14
  forbid that cigar something happens to it.
• 1:01:17
  It doesn't burn right. It falls apart.
• 1:01:19
  It ruin it ruins that occasion because now it's like you're
• 1:01:23
  waiting for the the birth of your child.
• 1:01:26
  You're waiting for an anniversary, a special
• 1:01:28
  anniversary, and you smoke it and that cigar is always,
• 1:01:31
  usually always going to smoke really good.
• 1:01:33
  But what happens if it doesn't and it falls apart and it's
• 1:01:36
  cracked and now it kind of ruins that occasion and me that that
• 1:01:40
  really meant a lot to me. And I'm like, and I'm like, you
• 1:01:42
  know what? He's right.
• 1:01:44
  So on these special occasions I smoke just whatever, because now
• 1:01:48
  I can keep smoking that cigar. So on my anniversary, it may be
• 1:01:52
  I'm just going to smoke a Dunbart and tobacco and trust
• 1:01:55
  Sober Mesa El Americano. And it's a great cigar.
• 1:01:58
  And then I can I can smoke that cigar on every occasion, you
• 1:02:02
  know, So on the next anniversary or when your son turns 123, you
• 1:02:07
  can always keep smoking that cigar.
• 1:02:09
  You may not. You know, if you if you have
• 1:02:11
  those special cigars, those unicorns, or those vintage
• 1:02:13
  cigars, you're not going to smoke that again.
• 1:02:15
  But you can smoke it again the next year if you're smoking just
• 1:02:19
  a regular cigar. Right.
• 1:02:20
  And that's that's kind of what a lot of people have.
• 1:02:23
  I've kind of told a lot of people is, you know, kind of
• 1:02:26
  like you said, you know, I my special occasion cigars, you
• 1:02:30
  know, most of the time are stuff that I can get any time of year,
• 1:02:35
  anytime I want, you know, like I'll smoke on a, you know, on on
• 1:02:40
  my birthday or whatever. Let's just say I'm smoking a
• 1:02:42
  league of nine. I know I can go get another one.
• 1:02:44
  You know, I know I can. Go get you know MI Carita by
• 1:02:49
  Steve Sock. I know I can get all those.
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  You know where the special occasion stuff is for what I say
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  when I don't know what I want to smoke, because I don't know what
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  I want to smoke. So let's pick this.
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  And now guess what? It's a special occasion because
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  I figured out what I wanted to smoke.
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  So on that note, we're going to ring the bell and we're going to
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  go to my man right there, the the, the everything that he has.
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  The word Wow. We've already been on for an
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  hour guys. I can't even believe it.
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  It goes by so fast. Goes by so fast, guys.
• 1:03:32
  That that hour, All right, all right.
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  What's up, everybody? So we are, we are back and I got
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  AI just got a text from OG because he got a, he got a
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  question from somebody. So we're actually going to go
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  with the question of the week for you, Kevin.
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  All right. Well, we're going to, we're
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  going to have our producer hit our nice question of the Week
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  graphic for us and then we will ask the question.
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  If he hits it, if not. If not, I'll ask the question,
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  It doesn't matter to me. That's the question.
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  So the question of the week from somebody watching was, if you
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  could smoke a cigar with any celebrity, who would it be?
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  I mean, what what? How do you define celebrity?
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  I I You know. He didn't say he.
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  Didn't say. OK.
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  I would assume, I would assume like a movie star or a sports
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  figure or the traditional scent of celebrity cigar, I guess
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  cigar celebrity, like, you know, I don't know.
• 1:08:36
  You know, if it if it's like regular celebrity, I I would
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  probably say, you know, Shaq Shaquille, O'Neal, you know,
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  definitely, you know, cigar celebrity Steve Sacca.
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  You know, I I've sat down and smoked with Steve so many times
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  and he's the, you know, he's one of those guys I always still
• 1:08:57
  want to smoke a cigar with, you know, 'cause he's, he's got so
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  many stories and and I I love, I love just sitting down and and
• 1:09:06
  chatting with Steve. So.
• 1:09:10
  We're going to get Steve on here.
• 1:09:12
  We are, we're all, we're filling up our calendar for next year,
• 1:09:15
  so, so we're working. On that and get Steve on here.
• 1:09:18
  We're working on our calendar for next year.
• 1:09:20
  I actually have. I have to reach out to them and
• 1:09:25
  see if we can set a date with with these two guys.
• 1:09:28
  But as OG knows them, I know them.
• 1:09:30
  He knows them. You probably know them too,
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  Kevin. I'm going to We're going to be
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  having Chief and Bob the Cigar Guy on episode of our podcast
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  for next year. Yeah, definitely.
• 1:09:41
  Sunday morning's going to be tough for them.
• 1:09:43
  You know, they got church on Sunday morning like I said.
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  We already got church. We can, we can work around
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  their, we can work around their schedules, which isn't a problem
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  for us. You know, 'cause they are,
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  they're two guys that over the last couple of years we've come
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  to become very good friends with.
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  Wait. Wait.
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  Wait. Wait.
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  Wait. So you know there's.
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  Not give me a a nickname. Well, yeah, but we're not going
• 1:10:05
  to tell that story now. We're going to tell that story
• 1:10:06
  on the podcast so. Give you a nickname.
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  Keep it to yourself. We're going to keep that.
• 1:10:11
  You can't reveal everything. OK.
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  Yeah, a couple, a couple of great guys.
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  You know I, I, I've known those guys for forever now.
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  Couple, couple of great guys for for sure, you know Bob.
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  Steve they are great and you know they I jump on their their
• 1:10:29
  podcast when they go live. Like I'll type in the comments,
• 1:10:32
  you know and I'll I'll mess with them because I, you know, I
• 1:10:35
  that's just what I do. I'm just a joker by heart that's
• 1:10:37
  just like what that's what I like to do and they it's great
• 1:10:40
  because they play into it so much.
• 1:10:42
  It's actually hilarious. Danny said his cigar celebrity
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  for him would be Jose Blanco. To smoke a.
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  Cigar with So Kevin, we appreciate you jumping on our
• 1:10:52
  live. We appreciate you having us.
• 1:10:55
  All and go so. That's going to wrap us up for.
• 1:11:00
  Everybody stay tuned because the the turnbuckles will be having
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  Trash panda. We will be picking.
• 1:11:06
  I'll be picking them up myself. I'll be buying some Trash Panda
• 1:11:09
  pretty soon. I'm laces out is what I have to
• 1:11:12
  get. From what do you mean laces out?
• 1:11:14
  I have. To buy laces out, I don't
• 1:11:16
  understand laces out. I have to buy that first because
• 1:11:18
  it's Jeff. And like you said, it's just one
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  of those movies that you can't help but love.
• 1:11:23
  Oh yeah, exactly. So that for sure.
• 1:11:27
  We will be smoking those eventually at some point when we
• 1:11:30
  all get them. But you know we're going to,
• 1:11:33
  we're going to wrap this up for today.
• 1:11:35
  Kevin, we appreciate you coming on.
• 1:11:37
  Thank you for jumping on with us.
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• 1:11:53
  I haven't had them, but I've I've followed Kevin enough and
• 1:11:57
  for a very long time to know that he knows his stuff.
• 1:12:01
  So go pick them up. Go support them, go pick up
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  merchandise, whatever we will, we will put the the social media
• 1:12:10
  links in our post when we post them up and if not, DM us or DM
• 1:12:16
  him and and ask for the link and we'll we'll get it over to you
• 1:12:20
  guys. Kevin come back again, brother.
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  This was awesome. Oh, for sure.
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  And and anytime, guys, and anytime.
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  And I promise I won't call you Derek.
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  Yeah, no, no worries at all. All right my friends.
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  Wonderful Sunday here at Turnbuckles and Stogies.
• 1:12:41
  Merry Christmas, everybody. Merry.
• 1:12:43
  Christmas. Happy New Year.
• 1:12:44
  We will see you live in the New Year on January 7th with our
• 1:12:49
  first guest, Ishmael Olivan of B AM FROCF and the list goes on
• 1:12:54
  and on. Peace out guys.
• 1:12:59
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• 1:13:01
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• 1:13:10
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