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Ep. 52 | An Excellent Spirit: Daniel, Prophetic Dreams & Strange Encounters That Defy Explanation| Sasquatch & Sourdough · Sasquatch & Sourdough

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SPEAKER_00: There are moments in history when the air feels charged, not loud, not theatrical, just heavy.
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SPEAKER_00: As if something unseen is pressing against the fabric of the visible world.
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SPEAKER_00: We are living in such a time.
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SPEAKER_00: Information spills faster than wisdom.
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SPEAKER_00: Voices claim revelation.
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SPEAKER_00: Headlines whisper disclosure.
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SPEAKER_00: Prophecy trends.
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SPEAKER_00: But mystery has always walked the earth.
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SPEAKER_00: Before viral clips and algorithms, before monetized visions and platformed prophets, there was a man carried into Babylonian exile.
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SPEAKER_00: A young Hebrew taken from Jerusalem into a foreign empire of idols, omens, astrologers, and secret knowledge.
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SPEAKER_00: A court where dreams were currency and mystics were rewarded for spectacle.
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SPEAKER_00: And in that dark world, scripture says something different about him.
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SPEAKER_00: An excellent spirit was found in him.
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SPEAKER_00: Not charisma, not theatrics, not self-promotion, an excellent spirit.
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SPEAKER_00: The story unfolds in the book of Daniel, a text soaked in mystery.
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SPEAKER_00: Kings dream of statues made of strange metals, beasts rise from turbulent seas, fiery furnaces glow, lions prowl, a stone not cut by human hands crushes empires.
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SPEAKER_00: And then perhaps most chilling of all, a hand appears and writes judgment on a wall.
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SPEAKER_00: Not metaphor, but a hand.
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SPEAKER_00: No body, no voice, just writing.
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SPEAKER_00: We get the phrase the handwriting on the wall from that moment, a sign of coming judgment, a prophetic warning that something has been weighed and found wanting.
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SPEAKER_00: But here's what makes Daniel different.
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SPEAKER_00: He did not speak the spectacle, he did not monetize the mystery, and he didn't use revelation for cloud.
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SPEAKER_00: He interpreted because he was summoned.
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SPEAKER_00: He spoke because he was obedient, and he trembled when others celebrated.
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SPEAKER_00: And that is the thread we're following tonight.
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SPEAKER_00: Not just mystery, prophetic mystery, and the warning that comes with it.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Sasquatch and Sourdough! Moments that feel strange, unsettling, or unexplainable, yet somehow meaningful.
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SPEAKER_00: Sasquatch and sourdough is a place to bring those stories.
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SPEAKER_00: Here we explore the unexplained, the supernatural, folklore, history, and high strangeness through the lens of faith, scripture, and discernment.
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SPEAKER_00: Not to sensationalize the unknown, but to examine it slowly, thoughtfully, and with the reminder that God is present even in the most unexpected places.
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SPEAKER_00: This is weirdly encouraging content for curious minds, faithful hearts, and anyone who's ever felt like the world is weirder than they ever imagined.
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SPEAKER_00: Welcome to Sasquatch and Sourdough.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, welcome back to Sasquatch and Sourdough.
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SPEAKER_00: I am your host, Christina, and guys, I am excited about this episode.
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SPEAKER_00: Spring is on the move, and so are all the insane disclosures.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I'm kind of I'm actually on time-ish uh recording this.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm kind of keeping to a weekly schedule.
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SPEAKER_00: God is amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but there's all kinds of crazy stuff going on in disclosure world.
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SPEAKER_00: We're just getting spoon-fed, all this insane and weird and troubling information.
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SPEAKER_00: So, of course, I wanted to break up your news feed um and bring a little wisdom, hopefully some clarity.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, just give you some weirdly encouraging content because that is what we do around here.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: So, welcome.
4:53
SPEAKER_00: I'm so happy that you're here.
4:55
SPEAKER_00: Welcome to my Scottish listeners.
4:58
SPEAKER_00: I was checking the analytics again, and there are people from all over the place.
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SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, we have new listeners from the Netherlands.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, we have some people from Billings, Montana.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, where else was one that stood out to me that I was like, wait, where is that?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, South Holland, which is the Netherlands.
5:18
SPEAKER_00: I had to look that up.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, Monroe, Maine.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, what?
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SPEAKER_00: I didn't even know this place existed.
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SPEAKER_00: Um like, I'm just so excited to see all the new places.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, we've got some new folks in Florida.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, so just welcome everybody.
5:34
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5:40
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5:59
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SPEAKER_00: I just want to hear from you guys.
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SPEAKER_00: Um it's been really exciting, this new kind of turn that God has put on my heart and just has taken the show in a totally different direction.
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SPEAKER_00: I want to hear what you guys think.
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SPEAKER_00: So welcome.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so we've been reading through the book of Daniel as a sermon series at church, and I've never actually read through it.
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SPEAKER_00: So I decided to obviously like follow along.
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SPEAKER_00: And one of the things, um, I'm not gonna do like a deep dive or anything, but one of the things that stood out is he's asked to interpret the king's dreams.
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SPEAKER_00: Um and he's in this like wicked, wicked land.
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SPEAKER_00: There's all this evil happening.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's very kind of like where we are today.
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SPEAKER_00: Um but one of the things that keeps being said about him is that each king and each leader says, I have heard of you that the spirit of the gods is in you, and that light and understanding and excellent wisdom are found in you.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and so it's just kind of this re recurring theme that he has this excellent spirit, and that just keeps like it just it was highlighted to me.
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SPEAKER_00: And I really feel like um, you know, the Holy Spirit was kind of like guiding me in with that through this episode.
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SPEAKER_00: And that is actually from Daniel 5 uh 14.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so in Daniel 5, 14, they keep like one of the things that is that really stands out is that um they keep talking about this excellent spirit that is in Daniel, and so the spirit that's in him stands out amongst all of this darkness and craziness.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and so that's kind of where I felt led to pull this episode.
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SPEAKER_00: I've been trying to pull this episode together for so long, and I feel like God was just like, yeah, hold on, I've got you, I need you to read this because it went into so many different directions.
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SPEAKER_00: I was just like, oh, the mystery of the Bible.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, there's so we talk about mystery all the time.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, what does that actually mean?
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SPEAKER_00: And so here we are.
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SPEAKER_00: This is the direction.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, so yeah, all that being said, uh, I hope this serves as a beacon of hope in this like weird, weirdo timeline that we're in.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, it's just crazy out there.
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SPEAKER_00: So go outside, the birds are are out.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, I feel like spring is kind of creeping around the corner, even though there's supposed to be more snow happening.
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SPEAKER_00: So I hope you guys are getting outside.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, comment, subscribe, all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, let me know what you think.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, that's definitely definitely helps for sure.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is gonna be a fun journey.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, I hope you enjoy the book of Daniel.
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SPEAKER_00: It's wild.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, don't I'm I'm not getting lost in the symbolism, but I just I love so much that Daniel was in this crazy wild world uh filled with evil, and yet the most noticeable thing about him was the spirit inside of him.
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SPEAKER_00: So, with that being said, tonight I give you a most excellent spirit.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel stands in contrast to the Babylonian magicians, men who practice secret arts for status and reward.
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SPEAKER_00: They thrived on mystique.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel fasted, prayed, waited.
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SPEAKER_00: The difference was not access to information, it was source.
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SPEAKER_00: It was a different spirit.
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SPEAKER_00: The prophetic in scripture is rarely glamorous.
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SPEAKER_00: It's often heavy, it carries warning more than applause, and it isolates more than it elevates, which is why discernment matters now more than ever.
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SPEAKER_00: Because we live in an age obsessed with disclosure.
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SPEAKER_00: There's government disclosures, spiritual disclosures, ancient mysteries resurfacing, supernatural claims amplified.
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SPEAKER_00: But mystery alone is not proof of truth.
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SPEAKER_00: And not every revelation comes from the same spirit.
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SPEAKER_00: So tonight I wanted to take a look at some encounters of maybe prophecy, maybe just weird dreams, uh, but definitely glimpses into different spiritual sources, I guess.
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SPEAKER_00: The apparition known as the Brown Lady at Rynham Hall.
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SPEAKER_00: A mist-like feminine figure descending a staircase.
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SPEAKER_00: The image spread, speculation grew, some people called it proof of the afterlife, other people called it exposure of the unseen realm, some people called it just overexposure.
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SPEAKER_00: But here's the question Daniel would ask.
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SPEAKER_00: What spirit is this?
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SPEAKER_00: Mystery does not equal message, apparition does not equal prophecy.
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SPEAKER_00: The modern world is fascinated by manifestations.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel was not fascinated, actually.
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SPEAKER_00: He was terrified and he was discerning.
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SPEAKER_00: So I love I love this.
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SPEAKER_00: Like this, so basically, what happened?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna give a little bit of an account of this story.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, but I love the picture.
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SPEAKER_00: If you guys have a chance, please look up this picture.
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SPEAKER_00: You can just Google it.
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SPEAKER_00: Brown Lady of um Rainham Hall.
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SPEAKER_00: It's uh like you'll get so many different images popping up, but it's just it's like classic, creepy, you know, image of a ghost descending a staircase.
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SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, and so it was first published in Country Life magazine, which is still around uh in 1936.
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SPEAKER_00: So here's the backstory.
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SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
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SPEAKER_00: The Brown Lady of Rhine Hall is a ghost that reportedly haunts Rhinham Hall in Norfolk, England.
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SPEAKER_00: It became one of the most famous hauntings in the UK when photographers from Country Life magazine claim to have captured its image.
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SPEAKER_00: The Brown Lady is so named because of the brown brocade dress it is claimed that she wears.
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SPEAKER_00: Um okay, so according to legend, the apparition is that of Dorothy Walpole, uh, the sister of Robert Walpole, generally regarded as the first prime minister of Great Britain.
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SPEAKER_00: So she was the second wife of Charles Townsend, and uh he was a he was notorious for like having a really violent temper.
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SPEAKER_00: And the story basically says that when he discovered that she was unfaithful uh one day, he basically punished her by locking her in her rooms uh in the family home.
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SPEAKER_00: This is like so this just it gives like classic ghost story energy.
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SPEAKER_00: Like she basically was entrapped in her rooms uh by a countess, the Countess of Wharton.
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SPEAKER_00: And so basically she invited Dorothy over to stay for a few days, knowing that her husband would never allow her to leave, not ever to see her children again.
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SPEAKER_00: She remained in Rynham Hall until her death in 1726 from smallpox.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the first recording claim of a sighting of the ghost was um it was during a gathering at Ryan at the at the hall in the Christmas of 1835.
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SPEAKER_00: So it says that Charles Townsend had invited various guests to the hall, including uh Colonel Loftus, to join in the Christmas festivities.
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SPEAKER_00: Loftus and another guest named Hawkins said they saw um a brown lady one night as they approached their bedrooms, noting in particular the dated brown dress that she was wearing.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh the following evening, Loftus claimed to have seen the brown lady again, later reporting that on this occasion he was drawn to the Spectre's empty eye sockets.
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SPEAKER_00: Ooh, dark in the glowing face.
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SPEAKER_00: Loftus' sightings led to some staff permanently leaving the hall.
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SPEAKER_00: Um and then the other, so the next reported sighting was in 1836 by Captain Frederick uh Marriott, a friend of Charles Dickens, and the author of a series of popular sea novels.
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SPEAKER_00: It is said that he requested um that he spend the night in the most haunted room of the hall to prove his theory that the haunting was caused by local smugglers anxious to keep people away from the area.
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SPEAKER_00: So writing in 1891, uh Florence Marriott said of her father's experience, he took possession of the room in which the portrait of the apparition hung, and in which she had been offered she had been often seen and slept each night with a loaded revolver under his pillow.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh for two days, however, he saw nothing, and the third was to be the limit of his stay.
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SPEAKER_00: On the third night, however, two young men, nephews of the baronet, knocked at his door as he was giv as he was undressing to go to bed, and asked him to step over to their room, which was at the other side of the corridor, and give them his opinion on a new gun, just arrived from London.
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SPEAKER_00: My father was in his shirt and trousers, but as the hour was late and everybody had retired to rest except themselves, he prepared to accompany them as he was.
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SPEAKER_00: As they were leaving the room, he caught up his revolver.
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SPEAKER_00: In case you meet the brown lady, he said, laughing.
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SPEAKER_00: When the inspection of the gun was over, the young men in the same spirit declared they would accompany my father back again in case you meet the brown lady, they repeated, laughing also.
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SPEAKER_00: The three gentlemen therefore returned in company.
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SPEAKER_00: The corridor was long and dark, for the lights had been extinguished, but as they reached the middle of it, they saw the glimmer of a lamp coming toward them from the other side.
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SPEAKER_00: One of the ladies going to visit the nurseries, whispered the young Townsends to my father.
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SPEAKER_00: Now the bedroom doors in the corridor faced each other, and each room had a double door with a special with a space between.
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SPEAKER_00: As in the case in many old fashioned houses, my father, as I have said, was in a shirt and trousers only, and his native modesty made him feel uncomfortable.
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SPEAKER_00: So he slipped within one of the outer doors, his friends following his example, in order to conceal himself until the lady should be passed by.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's very nice of him.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh and then she goes on to say, I have heard him describe how he watched her approaching nearer and nearer through the chink of the door.
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SPEAKER_00: As she was close enough for him to distinguish the colors and style of her costume, he recognized the figure as the um as the portrait of the brown lady.
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SPEAKER_00: He had his finger on the trigger of his revolver and was about to demand it to stop and give the reason for its presence there when the figure halted of its own accord before the door um behind which he stood, and holding the light lamp or holding the lighted lamp she carried to her features, grinned in a malicious and diabolical manner at him.
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SPEAKER_00: This act so infuriated my father, who was anything but lamb-like in disposition, that he sprang into the corridor with a bound and discharged the revolver right in her face.
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SPEAKER_00: The figure instantly disappeared, uh, at which for several minutes three men had been looking at each other, and the bullet passed through the outer door of the room on the opposite side of the corridor and lodged in the panel of the other inner door.
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SPEAKER_00: My father never attempted again to interfere with the brown lady of Rhynum.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so this is this so here's the story behind how they captured the actual apparition on film.
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SPEAKER_00: Um on September 19th, 1936, Captain Hubert C.
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SPEAKER_00: Provind, a London-based photographer working for Country Life magazine, and his assistant, um, were taking photographs of Rynum Hall for an article.
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SPEAKER_00: They claim that they had already taken a photograph of the hall's main staircase and were setting up to take a second when the assistant saw a vapory form gradually assuming the appearance of a woman moving down the staircase toward them.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh, under the direction of Provind, they quickly took the cap off the lens and then pressed the trigger to activate the camera's flash.
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SPEAKER_00: Later, when the negative was developed, the famous image of the brown lady was revealed.
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SPEAKER_00: The account of the ghostly experience at Rynam Hall was published in Country Life magazine in December 26, 1936, along with the photograph of the brown lady.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: Are we selling magazines?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh shortly thereafter, the noted paranormal investigator Harry Price interviewed um so Proven and the assistant and reported, quote, I will say at once, I was impressed.
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SPEAKER_00: I was told a perfectly simple story uh that they saw the apparition descending the stairs at the precise moment when Captain Provin's hand was under the black cloth, a shout, and the cap was off and the flashball fired, with the results which we now see.
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SPEAKER_00: I could not shake their story, and I had no right to disbelieve them.
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SPEAKER_00: Only collusion between the two men would account for the ghost if it was fake.
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SPEAKER_00: The negative is entirely innocent of any faking.
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SPEAKER_00: End quote.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so there's a lot of skeptical response.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's kind of one of those, you know, this is the first ever ghost caught on film, so we're gonna be skeptical of it.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh a lot of critics have claimed that uh the image was faked by putting grease or a similar substance on the lens in the shape of a figure, uh, or moved down, or that basically that the assistant moved down the steps uh himself during the exposure.
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SPEAKER_00: And then others claim that the image is an accidental double exposure, or that light somehow got in like into the camera.
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SPEAKER_00: So you guys decide, you can take a look at it, but it's it is definitely like a classic haunting image.
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SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, that's the brown lady.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, it is really creepy.
22:09
SPEAKER_00: This is where we must tread carefully.
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SPEAKER_00: The prophetic can be imitated, mystery can be manufactured, and spiritual experiences can be misinterpreted.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel refused rewards at times.
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SPEAKER_00: He corrected kings, he fasted for understanding.
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SPEAKER_00: He did not use revelation for personal elevation.
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SPEAKER_00: In our time, prophetic language can easily become brand language, but scripture gives a sober standard.
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SPEAKER_00: Test the spirits, weigh the message, examine the fruit.
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SPEAKER_00: An excellent spirit is marked by humility, obedience, and reverence, not spectacle or urgency-driven fear, and certainly not monetized mystery.
22:53
SPEAKER_00: The darker the world, the more valued discernment becomes.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel shone not because Babylon was mystical, he's shown because Babylon was dark.
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SPEAKER_00: Days before his assassination, Abraham Lincoln tells close friends about a dream: a White House hallway, soldiers, and a corpse.
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SPEAKER_00: The president has been killed by an assassin.
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SPEAKER_00: He does not announce it publicly, he does not profit from it.
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SPEAKER_00: He shares quietly with integrity.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel too understood this weight.
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SPEAKER_00: The prophetic is heavy.
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SPEAKER_00: It can be intimate and it can burden the messenger.
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SPEAKER_00: I, Daniel, was troubled in my spirit.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel 7, 15.
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SPEAKER_00: Not every revelation gives power, but sometimes it simply demands faithfulness.
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SPEAKER_00: Weeks before his assassination, Abraham Lincoln reportedly shared a dream with his cabinet.
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SPEAKER_00: He wandered through the White House hearing weeping, only to find a corpse guarded by soldiers.
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SPEAKER_00: When he asked who had died, the answer came the president.
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SPEAKER_00: Soon after he was shot at Ford's Theater.
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SPEAKER_00: Was it a premonition?
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SPEAKER_00: Providence?
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SPEAKER_00: Coincidence?
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SPEAKER_00: The prophetic sometimes whispers before it strikes.
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SPEAKER_00: But Lincoln did not turn his dream into spectacle.
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SPEAKER_00: He did not broadcast it for influence.
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SPEAKER_00: He carried it quietly.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel too carried weight quietly.
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SPEAKER_00: Prophetic mystery is rarely performative.
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SPEAKER_00: It is often solemn.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so this is coming from teachinghistory.org.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh this is crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's obviously the account of President Lincoln having the premonition of his own death before he was assassinated.
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SPEAKER_00: And so it says Lincoln's former law partner, Ward Hill Lammon, who accompanied him as a bodyguard on his train ride through Baltimore at the beginning of his presidency, and remained as a close friend, an occasional bodyguard until Lincoln's death, wrote that he was among the two or three persons present when the president related a disturbing dream he had only a few days before his assassination.
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SPEAKER_00: So the account appeared in a book of anecdotal reminiscence compiled by Laman's daughter and published in 1895, two years before his death.
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SPEAKER_00: So some of these writings have appeared in previous, like previously in newspapers, and then others came from his own personal letters.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: And he presented Lincoln's account of the dream he wrote, uh, quote, as nearly in his own words as I can, from notes which I made immediately after its recital.
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SPEAKER_00: In this account, Lincoln began by commenting on the abundance of dreams in the Bible and asserting, quote, if we believe the Bible, we must accept the fact that in the old days of God, or in the old days, God and his angels came to men in their sleep and made themselves known in dreams.
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SPEAKER_00: End quote.
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SPEAKER_00: In answer to a question put to him by his wife, Lincoln admitted that he did not believe in dreams, but he went on nevertheless to allude that a recent dream that, quote, has haunted me ever since, end quote, prodded by Mrs.
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SPEAKER_00: Lincoln to continue, the president related that about ten days ago, he had gone to bed late after he had stayed up, waiting for important dispatches from the front.
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SPEAKER_00: As he began to dream, he experienced a dreamlike stillness about me.
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SPEAKER_00: Hearing the sounds of subdued sobs, Lincoln walked downstairs in search of the mournful sounds of distress, but encountered no living person until he entered the East Room, where he found, quote, a sickening surprise, end quote, a corp, a covered corpse resting um surrounded by soldiers with mourners gazing at the body and weeping.
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SPEAKER_00: And then he asked, Who is dead in the White House?
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SPEAKER_00: I demanded of one of the soldiers and then it quoted to say Lincoln related in or it says Lincoln related in Layman's account, continuing the president was his answer.
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SPEAKER_00: He was killed by an assassin.
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SPEAKER_00: Lincoln then stated that he woke soon after in response to a loud burst of grief from the crowd, did not sleep again that night due to the dream, and have quote have been strangely annoyed by it since.
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SPEAKER_00: Lehman further related that at a later encounter, Lincoln insisted to him that he was not the corpse on the on the um on display, a claim that he prompted political scientist Dwight D.
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SPEAKER_00: Dwight G.
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SPEAKER_00: Anderson to speculate that the dead president in the dream in fact was George Washington and that Washington's assassin was Lincoln himself.
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SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of how they're like relaying the dream to him.
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SPEAKER_00: Washington, in Andrew's view, provided Lincoln with an imaginary father whom he both emulated and defied.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I'm gonna actually link this in the show notes too.
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SPEAKER_00: Um it is from teachinghistory.org.
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SPEAKER_00: And there are like historians that will say that there's inconsistencies and kind of go back and forth, but um yeah, that's a really that's crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: In 1901, two English academics, Charlotte Ann Moberly and Eleanor Jourdain, were walking the grounds of the Palace of Versailles.
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SPEAKER_00: They later claimed that the atmosphere shifted, the light felt wrong, the air felt heavy, and the people around them appeared to be dressed in 18th century clothing.
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SPEAKER_00: They believed eventually that they had glimpsed into the error of Marie Antoinette, as if time itself had stood still and thinned.
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SPEAKER_00: No tragedy, no warning, just something felt off.
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SPEAKER_00: A distortion, a slip, maybe a rupture in perception.
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SPEAKER_00: And here's why this matters.
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SPEAKER_00: Not every strange experience is prophetic.
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SPEAKER_00: Some are psychological, some are atmospheric, some are spiritual, and some are just misinterpreted.
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SPEAKER_00: Mystery alone does not equal message.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel would not have rushed to label it revelation, he would have tested it.
29:37
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I absolutely love this account.
29:41
SPEAKER_00: Um, when I was kind of combing through and trying to find just obviously weird stuff, um sort of like giving like prophetic energy, I came across this, and this time slip account is amazing.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: I first of all, I feel like as I was reading it, it's like this is what I was just telling my husband the other day, like getting back to my harping on Wuthering Heights, and I can't stop.
30:06
SPEAKER_00: Like that of all the things that are happening right now, I just cannot stop thinking about how they remade that movie.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: So that's just shows you where my mind is.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: But it fits perfectly.
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SPEAKER_00: I was just telling my husband that I feel like what they were trying to capture and recreate with that movie was the same like 1990s energy of that Marie Antoinette um movie that I loved.
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SPEAKER_00: Like we were so in love with that movie.
30:31
SPEAKER_00: If you were like a teenager in the 90s, it was that was a whole vibe.
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SPEAKER_00: Um but these ladies, it's just like of oh, of course, of course, you like slipped back in time when you were in Versailles.
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SPEAKER_00: And the cool thing is, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna read the account, but they are exactly what you would expect.
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SPEAKER_00: Like when I say they were academics, like academic ladies from 1911, when you look up their pictures, it's exactly what you would expect of them.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's just perfect.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, so it's basically been called the Moberly Jordan incident.
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SPEAKER_00: I love that.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh and the go the go also the ghosts of petite uh the ghost of Versailles, basically.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I'm not even gonna pretend to just with a French accent.
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SPEAKER_00: Um so basically, so they in 1911 they published a book entitled An Adventure Under the Names of Elizabeth Morrison and Francis Lamont.
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SPEAKER_00: Their book describes a visit that they made um to Versailles, and so they went to the small chateau in the grounds of Versailles, and they claimed to have seen in the gardens uh that they were they had been transformed, basically ghosts, including Marie Antoinette, but that their entire like sensation and the area around them had shifted.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, what's really interesting is the background of these ladies is very different.
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SPEAKER_00: Like they're very well-educated, like well-bred ladies.
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SPEAKER_00: Sort of the backstory is that um Jourdain was the author of several textbooks and she ran a school of her own.
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SPEAKER_00: Um and after the incident, she actually became the vice principal of St.
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SPEAKER_00: Hugh's Hughes College.
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SPEAKER_00: But before that, uh it was decided that the two women should get to know each other because they were like kind of like colleagues.
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SPEAKER_00: And so um Jordain owned an apartment in Paris, and then she tutored English children, and Moberly went to stay with her.
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SPEAKER_00: So they kind of got connected, you know, like hot in sort of academia.
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SPEAKER_00: That's basically their background and how they the two knew each other.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is the claim.
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SPEAKER_00: Um they recounted that they had decided to visit the Palace of Versailles as part of several trips around Paris.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: And then they traveled by train to Versailles.
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SPEAKER_00: They remembered not thinking much of the palace after touring it.
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SPEAKER_00: So they said they decided to walk through the gardens.
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SPEAKER_00: They recall they recollected traveling with a guidebook, but said that they became lost after missing their turn from the main avenue.
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SPEAKER_00: Um, they entered a lane where they bypassed their destination.
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SPEAKER_00: Moberly reported that she noticed a woman shaking a white cloth out of a window, while Jourdain recalled noticing an old deserted farmhouse outside of which was an old plow.
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SPEAKER_00: At this point, they described a feeling of oppression and dreariness coming over them, after which men who they thought looked like palace gardeners took them to the told them to go straight on.
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SPEAKER_00: Moberly decided the men or described the men as very dignified officials dressed in long grayish-green coats with small three-cornered hats.
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SPEAKER_00: Jordan recalled that she noticed a cottage with a woman holding out a jug to a girl in the doorway, describing it as um a living picture, much like uh a wax work.
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SPEAKER_00: Moberly did not observe the cottage, but remembered that she felt the atmosphere change.
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SPEAKER_00: She wrote, at quote, everything suddenly looked unnatural, therefore unpleasant.
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SPEAKER_00: Even the trees seemed to become flat and lifeless, like wood worked into tapestry.
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SPEAKER_00: There were no effects of light and shade, and no wind stirred the trees.
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SPEAKER_00: They reported reaching the edge of the wood and coming across a man seated beside a garden kiosk wearing a cloak and large shady hat.
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SPEAKER_00: According to Moberly, his appearance was most repulsive, its expression odious.
34:38
SPEAKER_00: His complexion was dark and rough.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh Jourday noted the man slowly turned his face, which was marked by smallpox, his complexion was very dark, the expression was evil and yet unseeing.
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SPEAKER_00: Um and as though I did not feel that he was looking particularly at us, I felt a repugnance to going past him.
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SPEAKER_00: They said that the uh that another man, whom they described as tall, with large dark eyes, and crisp curly black hair under a large sombrero hat, came up to them and showed them the way um back.
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SPEAKER_00: Moberly said she noticed a lady sketching on the grass who looked at them after they crossed a bridge to reach the gardens in front of the palace.
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SPEAKER_00: She later described the lady as wearing a light summer dress and a shady white hat with much fair hair.
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SPEAKER_00: Moberly reported that she thought she was a tourist at first, but the dress appeared to be old-fashioned.
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SPEAKER_00: Moberly came to believe that the lady was in fact Marie Antoinette.
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SPEAKER_00: Jordain, however, did not see the lady.
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SPEAKER_00: At their return to the palace, they reported that they were directed round the entrance and joined a party of the other visitors.
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SPEAKER_00: They said that after they toured the house, they had tea at the hotel to um before returning to Jordain's apartment.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh, that's crazy.
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SPEAKER_00: And so then after that, apparently, um, according to Jordain and Moberly, neither woman mentioned the incident to the other one until a week after visiting Versailles, when Moberly, in a letter to her sister about their trip, started um writing about the afternoon of the Versailles incident.
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SPEAKER_00: She reportedly asked Jordain if she thought um that the area was haunted, and Jordain told her she thought it was.
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SPEAKER_00: Three months later in Oxford, the pair said they compared their notes and decided to write separate accounts of what happened while also researching the history.
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SPEAKER_00: They thought they might have seen um some events that took place on August 10th, 1792, only six weeks before the abolition of the French monarchy.
36:48
SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: When the when the palace was besieged and the king Swiss guards were massacred.
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SPEAKER_00: That's fascinating.
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SPEAKER_00: According to their narrative, they visited the gardens again on several occasions, but were unable to trace the path they took.
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SPEAKER_00: Various landmarks such as the kiosk and the bridge were missing and the grounds were full of people.
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SPEAKER_00: Trying to come up with an explanation, they wondered if they had stumbled across a private party or an event booked that day.
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SPEAKER_00: However, they found that nothing had been booked that afternoon.
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SPEAKER_00: Through their research, the thought um, they thought they recognized the man they reportedly saw by the kiosk um as a friend of Marie Antoinette, who herself Moberly had claimed to see.
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SPEAKER_00: Convinced that the grounds were haunted, they decided to publish their book, um, their story in a book, uh, under the pseudonyms of Elizabeth Morrison and Francis Lamont.
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SPEAKER_00: The book containing their claim that Marie Antoinette had been encountered in 1901 caused a sensation.
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SPEAKER_00: However, many critics did not take it seriously on the grounds of its implausibilities and inconsistencies that it contained.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so it goes on to like talk about the um reviews and such.
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SPEAKER_00: So then it says both women claimed many paranormal experiences before and after their adventure, and one of them Moberly claimed to have seen the Louvre in 1914, uh, or in the Louvre in 1914, an apparition of the Roman Emperor Constantine, a man of unusual height wearing a gold crown and a toga.
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SPEAKER_00: He was not observed by anyone else.
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SPEAKER_00: During the First World War, Jourdain, the dominant personality of the pair, who had uh succeeded as principal of St.
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SPEAKER_00: Hughes, became convinced that a German spy was hiding in the college.
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SPEAKER_00: After developing increasingly um autocratic behavior, she died suddenly in 1924 in the middle of an academic scandal over her leadership of the college, her conduct having provoked mass resignations of academic staff.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh wow.
38:54
SPEAKER_00: Moberly died in 1937.
38:56
SPEAKER_00: That's crazy.
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unknown: Wow.
38:58
SPEAKER_00: So that is um, and then it goes into like explanations and critiques, but we don't want to we don't want to hear that.
39:03
SPEAKER_00: You can do that on your own time.
39:04
SPEAKER_00: I want to hear more about Versailles being haunted.
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SPEAKER_00: That's I love that they just are academic ladies and then they saw something weird and they went back and and wrote their own separate accounts and researched.
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SPEAKER_00: Like very, very well done.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: That is wild.
39:23
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and so no episode would be complete without a story of Bigfoot.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: This is from the book.
39:30
SPEAKER_00: If you guys are new here and you've never heard me talk about this book, it's called Skating with Bigfoot by Renee Decare.
39:37
SPEAKER_00: I absolutely love it.
39:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, she does an incredible, yet again, another lady doing incredible research.
39:43
SPEAKER_00: Um, so this is called this this encounter is called Carrying Bigfoot Helped Injured Child.
39:51
SPEAKER_00: While not a newspaper account, this encounter is published on a website, bigfootencounters.com, in which people write and share experiences.
39:59
SPEAKER_00: It is rare to hear of helpful Bigfoots, and most reports have or most reports have reported indifference or aggression from the creatures.
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SPEAKER_00: However, a woman who identifies herself as Jaina M.
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SPEAKER_00: writes on the website that in 1975, when she was five years old, she was rescued by a Bigfoot.
40:19
SPEAKER_00: Her family was camping at Salt Creek Falls in the Willamette National Forest in Lane County, Oregon.
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SPEAKER_00: After falling down playing with her sister, the five-year-old Jaina got a gash on her head.
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SPEAKER_00: Her sister had runoff.
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SPEAKER_00: She recalls something that was hairy and clothes less picking oh and clothes less picking her up and carrying her to camp.
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SPEAKER_00: She writes, Someone or something picked me up and carried me like a baby.
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SPEAKER_00: He or it carried me back to the campsite and placed me on my cot.
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SPEAKER_00: My parents weren't there, and when they came back from looking for me, they asked me how I found my way back.
40:57
SPEAKER_00: I told them a bear carried me back.
41:00
SPEAKER_00: I told them that he or it walked carrying me in its arms.
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SPEAKER_00: See, look, what if Bigfoot's really nice?
41:16
SPEAKER_00: In Daniel 5, when the hand writes on the wall, no one in the palace can interpret it.
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SPEAKER_00: Not because the they lack intelligence, but because discernment is not the same as intelligence.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel interprets the writing not with excitement but with gravity.
41:32
SPEAKER_00: You have been weighed, you have been measured, you have been found wanting.
41:37
SPEAKER_00: Prophetic revelation in scripture does not entertain, it exposes.
41:42
SPEAKER_00: And this is where the warning comes in.
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SPEAKER_00: We are living in a time when supernatural claims multiply, disclosure narratives expand, prophetic voices compete for attention.
41:56
SPEAKER_00: But prophetic gifting in scripture was never a brand.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel did not use revelation for profit.
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SPEAKER_00: He did not leverage it for influence.
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SPEAKER_00: He did not dramatize it.
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SPEAKER_00: He obeyed.
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SPEAKER_00: The spirit in him was described as excellent, meaning stable, grounded, steady under pressure.
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SPEAKER_00: In a culture fascinated by mystery, stability becomes rare.
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SPEAKER_00: The phrase the handwriting on the wall has survived for centuries because it speaks to something universal.
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SPEAKER_00: There are moments when reality reveals itself, and not everyone can read it.
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SPEAKER_00: The writing was visible in Babylon, but only one man could interpret it.
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SPEAKER_00: Today, mystery is visible everywhere.
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SPEAKER_00: Images, dreams, anomalies, strange encounters.
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SPEAKER_00: The question is not whether we live in mysterious times.
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SPEAKER_00: The question is whether we are discerning.
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SPEAKER_00: Because prophetic weight without discernment becomes chaos.
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SPEAKER_00: Mystery without grounding becomes spectacle, and revelation without obedience becomes corruption.
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SPEAKER_00: Daniel did not shine because Babylon was mystical.
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SPEAKER_00: He shone because Babylon was dark.
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SPEAKER_00: And perhaps in our own age of disclosure, when so much feels unveiled and unstable, what we need most is not more mystery, but more people in whom an excellent spirit is found.
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SPEAKER_00: Steady, discerning, unmoved by spectacle, faithful under pressure.
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SPEAKER_00: The handwriting may be on the wall, but discernment determines whether we read it rightly.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for listening, guys.
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SPEAKER_00: Until next time, remember, the truth is out there, God is with you, and everyone always ends up in the kitchen.