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Barbara Bound Bound Bangor Management Fantasy Hockey
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Podcast. Woo woo woo.
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Big eyes there, Kevin. Yeah, I know.
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I was like, I gotta look into the camera.
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Not that we're on YouTube, Woo. Welcome in one and all the
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Bangor management the fantasy hockey podcast with Jake hockey
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shirtless no shirt hockey list Josh, I guess if you will and
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Habs jersey Kevin. I point that out because I got
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me my Hockey Hall of Fame shirt. Kevin is Kevin.
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I didn't get the memo. Rocking the best team in the
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league out here. I'm just gonna order this shirt
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every time we record. My mom got me this so.
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I don't need to. Brag yeah that's worth something
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that's that counts that's not feel bad for making fun of you.
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But anyway, today is gonna be the day.
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OK, sorry. Today we are OK.
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We could literally do this all episode and I'm honestly
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tempted. But let's get down to business
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to defeat the Huns today, Week 5 News update and would you rather
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Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts, rate US five stars and
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subscribe to us on YouTube. Woo.
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The comment leave a like we've gotta get in the habit of saying
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that now. Yes, yes, it's true.
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It's true. We're this is new territory for
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us. So now we're gonna be
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referencing stuff that we're doing on video or happening on
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video. So if you're audio only, you can
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become a double banger and bang on video and on audio.
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So listen, the more the merrier. After being on video.
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Not use those specific words at all.
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That's not what I said. Don't put words in my mouth.
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Way to go, Kevin. Politically, politically
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correct, OK. And the link to all of our
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socialists in the link tree in the podcast description.
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Yes, I could still. Say that.
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Great. All right, enough lollygagging
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Josh. Why don't you start us off with
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Tidbit News story #1. All right, Shane Glass despair
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has an abdominal injury and has no timeline to return.
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So fun for me as an owner. Sean Walker will be properly one
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in his place until counter Miller returns in a few games,
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in which case he should take it. God is very literally came back
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for maybe 2 shifts and then got a tummy ache and it's now out
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indefinitely. It's going to come out of
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something super messed up and I'm gonna feel.
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Terrible. Like Boo Hoo.
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Yeah. Exactly, Yeah.
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Anyways, yeah, no, it sucks as a Gospar owner because he was
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doing so well to start the season, but he just checking
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back on IR Plus and wait, I'm not too excited about either of
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the power play one quarterback replacements, whether it's
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Miller or Sean Walker. The thing I like about both of
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them or more Walker is that they have the back Cats.
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So it's back cats with maybe a straight puck will hit him on
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the power play and it'll be an assist, you know, but they're
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not the most offensively minded players and it's not a very good
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power play. So nothing too exciting there
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when it's not gospel on there. Writing off location yet not I
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know it's I'm trying to manifest destiny.
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We're gonna get into that in the mailbag episode, so I won't
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bring that discussion on just yet, but we could discuss that
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more. So stay tuned for that.
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No sport. Yeah, I mean, mail backups will
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be the next episode, so stay tuned for when that comes out.
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But also I will say I'm also not ruling out Nikishin from that.
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I just really got some point. They're gonna try it.
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I think they're gonna try it at some point.
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I just think it's. Not might not be in a few weeks,
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maybe it's in a month or two, but I think it's inevitable as
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long as costs. Spending maybe next year.
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If you're maybe. This league, but.
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If we see him on PB2 and it does and it goes well, maybe.
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That's OK, we'll get into it on the mail bag episode and I'll
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explain why you guys are wrong. But on the topic of the Canes,
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Kochetkov is back from injury and Carolina will be holding on
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to 3 goalies for the foreseeable future.
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Because that pussy is so good. Whoa, saying to bang on YouTube
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and to bang on audio, but you just said somebody's name in
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that profanity way. That's his name.
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OK, anyways I think that is. Actually a catastrophe.
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It's not my fault, that's what the name is like.
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No, not that there's a video. People can tell when we're just
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being dumb or or audio funny. Well, honestly, now that now
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they can tell. When I'm in the gym and I'm
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listening, sometimes I'm just like Dang, I wish I like laughed
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more so that people know I'm joking and I wasn't too serious.
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I feel like that's another thing that the podcast is live lacking
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is more laughter. Yeah, yeah, definitely.
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We're pretty good on that. Yeah.
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Anyways, this just sucks for all three of the goalies.
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I mean, obviously, but no one's rostering bossy.
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But could Chekov and Anderson, both are probably rostered in a
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lot of leagues, and now they're like not even 50% starts.
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They're like 4545 and 10 probably.
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So I don't really have any interest in any of the Carolina
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goalies unless you're pretty desperate.
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I'm pretty desperate and I own Freddie Anderson.
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I'm gonna bring him on the road trip.
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They're like we've got 3 goalies.
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He's not playing this game, so let's he just chills at home.
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The road trip is 1 game and he wasn't starting this game so.
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He's no, no, I know, but it's like.
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Honestly that's kind of good for him though.
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Like he's the type that needs Nadine.
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The rest and the travel is just extra extra stress on his body I
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guess. But.
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I don't know if he's gonna turn into the blitz.
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But all I'm saying is I, I expect at least one start from
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these guys on a weekly basis and there's probably one of these
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guys that gets two starts I think at some point.
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On a four-game week, sure. If it's a three-game week, I
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just expect 111. I think it's gonna be Kochetkov
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and Anderson kind of splitting 5050 and I think if they can
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avoid Freddie going on A1 game road trip and they just take
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busy to be the backup. Like I don't I don't think
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that's the worst idea. Like he was gonna play the game
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anyways, right? So I I wonder what they do but I
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don't think I can hold 3 goalies for the longest time and I at
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some point I think pussy just gets sent down and when they get
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healthier and actually need more skitters scatter slots just
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like. Hold on to him just to be like a
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warm, like a seat warm for the backup goalie every time that
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you take a little short road trip so Freddie doesn't have to
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travel because he's holding frail.
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Like defenseman and forwards are pretty valuable.
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People are always making different line combinations.
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Like you can't just call 3 goalies.
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Yeah, well honestly this sucks because it's still a question
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mark, even though it is going to be the lion share split between
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Kochetkov and Anderson. It's just going to be so
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annoying, yeah. I will say though, I just people
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I feel like are super hype on Kochetkov is like he's back from
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IR. Who do I cut?
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And like people's goalies are like it's like damn cover Melka
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and Aiden Hill. And I'm like, I'd rather have
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all those guys over there over Kochetkov, to be honest.
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Yeah, he's definitely overrated. I think top tier tandem guy
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though. But the tandem, like Josh has
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said it before in the podcast where they don't get many shots
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against. So if he's letting in two goals
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on like 22 shots or 20 shots, it's not the it's not like a
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huge maker break save percentage.
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And Carolina isn't the team that's like winning every game
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either right now. Like they're they're obviously
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not playing at the potential. But he only plays one game a
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week. Yeah, I'd rather a goal.
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He's gonna play three games and only wins has a chance of
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winning, like two or three of those.
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Games. I was answering questions score
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today and somebody asked me if they should start or they should
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keep Kochetkov or Spencer night and their stats heavily heavily
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influenced. Like it was 5 points for a win
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and I think it was like -2 for a loss or something.
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And saves were .1 and goals against were .5.
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So it was 5 saves equals one goal against pretty much.
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And obviously Caroline is a way better team than Chicago and I
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expect Caroline to get significantly more wins.
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But if she's playing one game on on any given week and that ends
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up being a loss, like you're just holding a spot, that's not
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gonna get you any points when Spencer and probably get at
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least two to three stars. Maybe they might not all be
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wins, but given the quantity of saves he's gonna get and also
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like the odd win here or there too, I just think it's, I don't
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know. I don't think Jacob is that
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good. I I would rather a lot of
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goalies ahead of him. Agreed.
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OK, onto the weekly segment called Injuries on Kevin's Team.
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Yay, I love. This part William Eckland is
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day-to-day with a lower body injury.
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Alexander Wennberg takes his spot on power play 1 and the
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team is considering to put him on IR.
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So I don't think it's a long term. 1, if they're considering
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putting him on IR and not immediately putting him on IR,
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that means you know, it's probably not too long term.
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But if it's even a possibility, it could be like a full week.
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Yeah, I mean, this episode is gonna go live on Wednesday and
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he is not playing the Wednesday game confirmed.
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So it might be the game after that.
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I guess we'll have to see. But I mean, we have three IR
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spots in our league. I'm at 6 injuries so that you
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can do the math. I don't know.
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I do not have a lot of. Players honestly just post your
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team online so everyone knows who's gonna get injured and then
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on discord and they can all trade away those guys before it
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happens. Maybe somebody did get rich
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bidding on the under on some of these guys.
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Yeah, exactly. Anyways, yeah, so I'm hoping
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it's not super long term. It just feels like I'm a week or
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two away from being serviceable as a fantasy.
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Team, but I wonder if there's any chance that Chef takes one
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big spot. On power one gonna say I'm way
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more just encouraged right now than Weinberg.
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Yeah, I anyway I. Picked up.
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We all regret robbing him on time.
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That guy on Boston and at the time of this recording I missed
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out on like 3 points over 2 games.
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Insane minutes, game-winning goal.
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Not that our league counts. That just shows how pudgy is big
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disaster. Wenberg is just not a guy who's
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gonna be on PowerPoint one for long.
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There's just no way. I mean he's just a fill in for.
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Yeah, but I do think Kurshev is good enough that at least in the
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time being, he'll take it. Yes back, no question he's gonna
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keep it. But for the few games, however
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long it is, I'd expect Kirsh have to be there sooner than
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later. Do you think there's a chance
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that when Eckland comes back if Kershaw keeps a different spot
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on the P1? Yes, jumping off like. 2 little
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ones. Yeah, I mean, it's not going to
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be Celebriti, it's not gonna be clean because they want the
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defence, it's not gonna be kind when he comes back.
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So then there's Smith and Toffoli, Only it's gonna be
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Smith. I think he's, I think he's still
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a doesn't have enough tenure to get to the P1 spot like I.
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Don't think he gets it. And honestly, Jackie, to make
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you feel better about not picking him up, I think this is
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a really good hot streak he's on.
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But any guy who's line 2 power play 2 I don't think can sustain
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this level of point product. Well, any guy who's a relative
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nobody and is lying to power play too is not going to sustain
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this long term. So you're not gonna be beating
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yourself up all season about missing out on this.
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Especially because Marat insert last name here on Boston is
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about to pop off. Yeah, exactly.
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Yeah, we've got a bunch of Vancouver news because they are
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one of the most injured teams in the league.
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Rock Besser returned to the lineup and took his spot back on
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line on power play 1 and then a great 3 point night.
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So overtime winner baby, let's go.
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Yeah. Maybe with one second left in
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the game. Yeah, I think it was 2 seconds
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against Nashville, which is also OK.
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If we're rounding then it's 2. That's the same thing happen
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with the housing for two seconds left against them.
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Anyways. Maybe a light at the end of the
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tunnel for some sort of offence from the Canucks.
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Speaking of light at the end of the tunnel, Quinn, he was also
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returned to the lineup and bumped Chronic off power play 1.
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He actually got no points in the there.
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Five goal win last night but not too worried he's gonna bring the
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offence. Also, I just want to say
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something to monitor with Vancouver if you're playing in a
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deeper faceoff wins league because I know Besser is
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available and I think like 70% of leagues right now he is
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playing online 2 with Rachel and Debrusk, which ended up having
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like good chemistry last game. I don't know if that's going to
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stick. Patterson is playing with Kane
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and Sherwood, which is just kind of wild because I mean, it just
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feels like those. Yeah, for sure.
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But it just feels like those two guys.
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Yeah, but it feels like it doesn't suit Peterson.
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If I. Don't know I was.
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Thinking that maybe because. Peterson is like so soft these
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days, having to like, enforce her bodyguards on his leg line
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to kind of createspace for him to do what he does.
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I don't know. It could work.
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I mean, they're gonna keep blending the lines on.
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This is sick. But what kind of like in my head
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I was like, that's a fun thought.
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But just relevant news is that Better was taking face offs
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online too with Rachel censoring dot line.
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So maybe like a pure centre? No, he's not.
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Before he got traded. So maybe some extra viability or
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maybe imagined Bresser gets centre eligibility.
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That would be fun for me because I have one on my team.
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So I just wanted to throw that out there.
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I was like, why does better have 5 face off?
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Yeah, I was. Like, OK, yeah, it's good to
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keep an eye on for sure and on. The do you know way before we go
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on, you know, stranger things like.
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Another show? No, never heard of it.
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You know, in the first season when like, you know, she's
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hanging out with with the guys and then like, there's like
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something that they try to bully them.
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Like they're like there's a school bullies who are like
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attacking them. And then 11 just like comes in
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and saves the day. And then like Dustin's like,
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yeah, she's our friend and she's crazy.
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I feel like that's Peterson was sure.
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Wouldn't these guys get 10 hits a game sometimes and he's just
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like chilling there having the best time at this.
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Sherwood bodyguards. Evander Kane had.
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Two. Come on man.
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I don't know how that flipped out.
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Do we know how to bleep with video?
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Hopefully though, I know that's good enough.
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On the train of Vancouver Canucks getting healthy, Connor
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Garland is expected back in the next few games and he should
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bump Sherwood off Power play 1, so just more.
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Probably line 1. Lineup, yeah, more guys coming
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back to the lineup. It'll get the line blender going
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again. I don't.
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I wouldn't count on anyone's deployment on the Canucks being
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stable or safe. So.
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The only one that's stable and safe is Arshdeep Bains who
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exactly heated up power places. People mentioned it in the
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discord. They were like, he did
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something. I got excited.
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You like tackle on to what you said.
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Yeah, I think we've spoken into existence.
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I think exactly. I feel bad about it was like, is
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he even a real person or we just, we made it up that way
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somehow on the Canucks and it's happening.
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Did we literally invent a hockey player?
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Anyway, I think we. Did back to the Kevin's team
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injuries. Zach Benson is out about a week
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with a lower body injury. Isaac Rosen takes a spot on
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power play 1 and had a good first NHL game.
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Not too interested in picking up Rosen because Vincent should be
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out back soon. I think Buffalo may be another
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one of those teams that's like extremely depleted with injuries
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right now is pretty bad. Like Josh Norris, Benson,
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Zucker, Kulik. Yeah, a lot.
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No, yeah, but they just got Kesselring back.
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They got tagged. They've got the goat, Josh
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Stone, so. Their offence is, I want to say,
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just like I'm worried about their it's fun, their success.
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I don't know, It's fun, but it's like when Jordan Greenway is
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filling in on like your top six, it's like something's wrong.
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Yeah, for sure, for sure. I don't know why they just move
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on up to the first line. I think they just like the
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chemistry of that second line of Don McLeod and Tuck.
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So that seems to be staying together.
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But I'm fine with Thompson moving to centre for a bit and
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getting me some face off wins. Anyways, finally some good news
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for Kevin's team. Vincent Trocheck has been
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practicing in a non contact jersey and should return within
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the week. Expecting to bump Laugh off
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power play 1 and have a top six role at even strength.
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I don't know what you consider line 1 and line 2 on that team,
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but I would expect it to be true track with Panarin and then
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either Laugh or Cooley. And then it'll be Miller with
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Savannah, Chad and the other one of Laffer Cooley, and they're
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both line 1.5. I can also see them just keeping
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Panarin, ZIB and NJT together after they stacked that top line
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and just have which I play with Laffin Cooley.
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Like, I guess we'll see what the options are, but JT and Project
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are going to be the two centres and then we'll see how the
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wingers shake out. Yeah, I think whatever, whatever
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has any sort of success, they're gonna roll with because they've
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struggled so much early in the season, I will say.
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I holding like a Rangers guy like a Panarin has advantage ad
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like AJ and to a lesser extent Cooley and laugh.
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I'd be interested. I have laughed and I'm like so
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close to dropping him. I think life is really
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struggling right now. I do not like the outlook for
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him. I really wanna see what it looks
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like when Trocheck is back before I drop him because
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obviously losing P1 is bad, but he hasn't been doing anything
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with it anyways and if it could pump his even strength
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production then it's something to keep an eye out on.
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So that is something because that's one of the big player
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like that comes back and the lines get shaken up a bit.
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Definitely something to keep an eye on.
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Yeah, there's like a real chance that it ends up being, you know,
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Zib Trocheck and laugh, which I mean, offensively I like more
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than Cooley. And then Cooley may go and set
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as a bandage on the. Top I don't know if you've
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looked at Cooley, but cool he's been really hot yeah and also
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like the coaching staff loves him for whatever reason.
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I think every time I see you look at Rangers news, the fans
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hate them. They think he's like, so the
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fans hate. They keep saying is overwritten
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and should be in the top six, but the coaching staff keeps
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talking about him so positively and he's who's on the ice too.
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And Cooley on my team. And every time I look at the
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game lot like the games at the end of the day, I'm just like if
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I just swap their production, I'm happy with where I drafted
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these guys. You know, like if Cooley stat
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line look was what Panarin got me on that evening, then I'm
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happy. No clues and Aaron was putting
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up the hits. That cool he was then.
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That would be the best pick in the track.
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Literally. My thing here is that there's
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six good players and Trocheck is going to fill in for lava and
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laugh. I don't think he's getting
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bumped off line one or two. His spot there should be.
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Life does not look good. I will say that's the thing.
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It just doesn't look good. And the coaching staff does not
18:16
put out positive news about him. They're just kind of like they
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they just talked. They just had a whole segment on
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how like he's not generational. Like nobody asked for that, but
18:23
they were just what do you think about your first?
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First of all, we're all picked Alexis Lafreniere.
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Like the future of it is just like, well, everybody thinks
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that the first overall pace going to be generational.
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Like clearly this is not what this is.
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But like you're just like, OK, like this is not what the
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kidney. See here is so brutal.
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That's great. Yeah.
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So I'm just not enthused about having laugh.
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And I would say, like, if the Rangers are really like, you
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know, going through in your deadline, I could see Panera
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getting moved. I can see Laugh getting moved.
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Like it's not out of the question.
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I don't think laughs getting moved but I definitely think
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Canarians 90% getting traded. If.
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They're not. This will be mentioned in our
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hot topics so we won't get into. It but last but not least on
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this, I just think that Trocheck has amazing standalone value.
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I. Have points leak.
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Yeah, I haven't been a points league where his value is not
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nearly as intense as it is in the Bangers league.
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And even there with like 60 something this last year he
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ended up ranked like 5th overall.
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He hits all the categories, especially if you're in a
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faceoffs league. Like buy him absolutely big time
19:27
because he ends up being so important for your team.
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My expectation is for him to be back Saturday of this week, so
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Saturday, whatever, November 9th or 10th, whatever it is.
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Yeah. And his value becomes like
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instant because he just covers everything.
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So yeah, you got traded for that.
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If you can, I drafted him in the third round without the
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expectation of PPU one. That's just how valuable he is
19:48
because really specifically also shorthanded points are are
19:51
valuable and he had the most shorthanded point last year.
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So yeah, alright, let's move on to the next.
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One, Elias Lindholm is week to week with a lower body injury,
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Victor Arvidson taking a spot on power play 1 and Marat Kunov
20:03
taking a spot online. One, just throwing that in there
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to make you happy. But.
20:06
Obviously the more the more relevant 1.
20:08
Is Power play 1? I mean this is a pretty big loss
20:13
especially if you had Lindholm and we told you to sell him high
20:16
and you didn't sell him high and now his values in the toilet.
20:20
So I hope you sold him if you had the chance.
20:24
He'll come back at some point in a few weeks and he won't be as
20:26
good as he was at the start of the season but he'll still be
20:29
serviceable. But in the meantime Arvidsons
20:31
guy would put on my watch list, but I'm not like dying to grab
20:33
him either. Zaka has also low-key been
20:37
pretty good for this team and last year they really expected a
20:40
lot out of him, but this year I feel like he's just quietly the
20:42
two see and like he doesn't have the best wingers but somehow he
20:44
still producing. If you have to own a centre on
20:48
this team right now for a Bangers league, who are you most
20:50
excited? About Zacco, Sure.
20:53
OK, Yeah. Cause to me, and I know I picked
20:56
up Marat cuz I'm still hoping for good things but I've been
20:59
decently high on Minton for a while and I think that he could
21:02
be good and bangers. He's yeah.
21:05
You just have to have the points upside that being in the top 6
21:08
and exposed to P1 has. Yeah, I regrettably think that
21:13
even by the time this episode drops, there's a chance that our
21:16
boy Marat is not on line 1. So convincing gets bumped into a
21:20
top six role. I'm like, not heavily
21:22
interested, but watch list for sure.
21:25
He could produce. I don't think getting bumped to
21:27
that easily. I don't know if you remember
21:29
like a week ago before Linton got injured, they actually tried
21:34
putting Marat online one as a winger and bumped Geeky down to
21:37
line 3 because they're like, this guy has seven goals in six
21:39
games, Obviously we should move him to line 3 anyway.
21:41
Plastic coaching. The coaches, yeah, exactly.
21:43
Sometimes I don't understand them but anyways I think they
21:45
the coach said he likes he likes Marats in the top 6 so I don't
21:48
see him getting a spot. But Minton also something that I
21:52
like doing with these lineups as well is I like looking at who's
21:55
on the special teams and specifically the penalty kill.
21:58
When a guy's on the first penalty kill unit, it just means
22:00
that the team trusts this person as well to be on the ice in
22:03
crucial moments. Like you're trying to prevent a
22:05
goal at that point and Minden is the centre on the 1st penalty
22:08
kill. So just definitely if he gets
22:11
bumped in the top six, I'm actually more interested because
22:13
he has like the banger profile that he can hit shots and hits
22:16
too. But like Josh said, like I don't
22:18
expect more out to get bumped too easily unless they're really
22:21
going bad. Yeah, OK, you're Mats Zuccarello
22:25
is expected back sometime this week.
22:27
Expect him to bump Tarasenko off Power Play 1.
22:30
I think there's some interesting stuff going off on with
22:32
Minnesota, especially with their Power Play 1 unit.
22:35
Again, I keep saying this, but this is another one of our hot
22:37
topics in the next episode. Well, you won't get into it too
22:40
much just yet, but. Here's an episode that we're
22:42
gonna tell you about all you talk about on the next episode.
22:44
Yeah, exactly. It just has a lot of the news
22:47
coincides with the stuff that's interesting to talk about.
22:49
But no, Zuccarello, he's always underrated.
22:52
Last year I got him super late in the draft.
22:54
He's always good for .8 points per game with maybe two shots.
22:58
It's not the flashiest thing, but it's better than you can get
23:01
on waivers and most leagues. So I think that he could help
23:04
the power play. They've been struggling and I
23:07
definitely would pick him up at least on your IR and then see
23:11
what he does for a game or two. I think the gorilla will is
23:15
going to have more value than people expect.
23:17
I just think it's always like that, even when he's healthy and
23:19
and drafted later in the draft. The question is do you think he
23:23
slots right away into the line 1 and he bumps markets to answer?
23:27
Line 1, I mean, he's going to be top 6.
23:29
I don't know if he's going to be line one, line 2, even strength,
23:31
but I'm sure he's going power play 1.
23:33
OK, over terrorists and clear 100% certain.
23:36
Yeah, easy. OK, I've there's also a chance.
23:39
I'm not the coach, right? I don't have a Direct Line to
23:42
John Hines, right? Now, but that's what 100% means,
23:44
Josh, are you 100% certain? 99% certain.
23:48
OK. But I know the gorilla in the
23:50
past has played either with Kaprizov or with Hartman.
23:53
So it kind of feels like it's either line one or line 3 in my
23:56
opinion. So we'll see how that goes
23:58
because I can see them running like a fully no Hartman
24:01
Zuccarello line. The identity of a line 3 he's
24:05
not like a a strong. Defence.
24:07
But if you have a Hartman and Folino together, I feel that's
24:10
enough. And then you need like a you can
24:12
have a more attacking kind of presence on that.
24:15
Line too unlikely that he's not in the top 6.
24:17
I'm just putting it other that is definitely not impossible,
24:21
but because your answer has been good on line one, that's why I'm
24:23
just like, maybe they wanna just keep rolling with what's working
24:26
and then I'm just putting it out.
24:28
I'm not saying that's gonna happen.
24:29
But yeah, they can come online too though.
24:33
Tarasenko, I. Don't think yeah, I don't have
24:35
any allegiance to Tarasenko. I think he can easily be Line 3
24:37
power play too. Yeah, I I don't see a world in
24:41
which he doesn't get top 6. Maybe the power play isn't going
24:45
to come instantly, but it's gonna happen at some point.
24:48
He's. I wanted to raise a question for
24:50
the power play. Do you think there's any chance
24:52
they run 5 forwards because they do not have a a guy that's like
24:57
cemented in that position? Let's not get into it too much
24:59
because there's one of my topics.
25:01
It's actually OK. Yeah, but I don't think they're
25:05
gonna do that. But.
25:07
Jakey raised his hands. Yeah.
25:11
I agree. Next point.
25:12
OK, Robert Thomas returned from injury and regained his spot on
25:16
line one power play 1 and then put up a two point performance
25:19
with four shots such as double his average shots.
25:21
So that's exciting, exciting for Blues fans and for Jakey cuz
25:26
hopefully this could spark some offence and get them some sort
25:30
of relevance both in real life and in fantasy.
25:34
And I think it's probably too late now, but Thomas would have
25:37
been a great blow while he was still injured.
25:39
He comes back, puts up a two point game.
25:40
That's hard to hard to buy. At that, we mentioned Thomas as
25:43
a biologist. Yeah, I think the window might
25:45
have just shut immediately. Yeah, this Central Division
25:49
though, is way crazy right now because the Avalanche, Jets,
25:54
Mammoth Stars, Wild and Blues to me can all be playoff contending
26:00
teams. It's a loaded division.
26:02
Whereas the Blackhawks and Predators.
26:05
Sorry, I don't. I don't think Wild and Blues
26:07
could contend. Really.
26:09
Yeah. The Blues are are super good at
26:12
fooling everyone that they're horrible and then being amazing.
26:15
So that's why I was. Yeah.
26:17
No, it's every year though, right?
26:20
They love doing. For four weeks, I fell for it.
26:23
But there's no way that they're going to be this bad for this
26:27
long. Thomas is the biggest point
26:29
producer on that team in both IRL and fantasy.
26:33
You want them. So to me, there are finishing
26:36
out of the Blackhawks and Predators for sure.
26:39
And yeah, they're gonna have to do something.
26:41
And I think it's gonna happen sooner than later.
26:43
And he makes the whole team better.
26:45
For sure. That's what happens when you.
26:47
Get your best player back from injury.
26:49
Yeah, and you super under the radar, right?
26:51
So I feel like guys like Holloway Buchnevich, who he's
26:56
been nothing and it's just going to get better for the whole
26:59
team. Are you worried about Jordan
27:01
Cairo at all? No, he was on like an 18 point
27:05
streak. I know, but then now we just
27:06
playing like 14 minutes tonight. I don't know.
27:09
I'm not too concerned at the end of the day that he's one of the
27:13
top three players on that team so.
27:16
A really good he gets disrespected a lot.
27:18
He does for sure, but I think I'm not worried about him.
27:21
I would buy him honestly. I tried.
27:23
Nobody. Nobody on the blue.
27:25
I also tried. I know we always get the same
27:28
people. Yeah, he just didn't want Morgan
27:30
Riley back. Yeah, OK, Jake Ottinger just had
27:36
a baby. Super inconsiderate and will
27:38
miss at least one game. Casey Desmith will get one or
27:41
two starts in his absence. He didn't even ask his fantasy
27:44
managers. Well, you know what we thought.
27:46
About this is my pet peeve is like they do this is a thing.
27:50
Hockey players and athletes in general, they plan when they
27:52
have they conceive the babies that the baby can be born in the
27:55
offseason. OK, so when they have a baby in
27:58
the middle of the season, it's their fault.
28:01
Are you worried about Holland's performance now that you have a
28:03
baby waking him up at 5:00 AM every morning or 3:00 AM?
28:07
Honestly, he's rich enough they can get a night nurse or
28:09
something and I think. He can sleep just fine.
28:11
He's not gonna go through what I'm going through.
28:14
You you think that having a kid would soften up your perspective
28:17
on this, but not at all. How dare you do this to my
28:22
fantasy team? Yeah, you on my team, but I'm
28:24
just like. If we just started, we should
28:26
start our website about like you know, tracking pregnancies for
28:29
pregnancy players. These are the advanced.
28:33
Metrics that you know most podcasts don't have.
28:36
Trade this guy because his wife is in the final championship.
28:42
Literally. There's glorious level.
28:44
Groinindex.com of, you know, NHL.
28:48
Yeah, exactly. Pregnancy tracker 101 feel like
28:52
it just. Can't be legal to track this?
28:54
I don't. Know.
28:56
Not be. Let's move on before we get
28:59
canceled. William Neyland.
29:01
We're gonna get sued or something.
29:02
Yeah, William Nylander is back from injury and bumped Domi off
29:05
power play 1 and then put up a three-point night.
29:08
Nothing surprising there. Yeah, and the Toronto Maple
29:12
Leafs came back, They were down big and then they came back in
29:16
the third, which is pretty surprising.
29:17
I mean, good for the team. Like they've been struggling a
29:19
lot and they just stacked line one.
29:21
Nice Matthews Nylander so. Yeah.
29:24
That's going to be interesting to see if it sticks the wheels.
29:28
Are starting to fall off on the Tristan Jarry redemption arc and
29:32
I think Archie she loves could start emerging as a more of a
29:35
starting as a tank than a tandem after that performance.
29:38
Look, it was just one performance, but as someone who
29:40
drafted Jerry in the last round last year, this is this what
29:44
happens. And if you're like, if the
29:45
Penguins were sucking anyways and they were taking, it's like,
29:47
OK, keep tossing them in there, but they're like near the top of
29:50
the standings. They can't mess around if
29:51
they're going to try and actually make the playoffs.
29:52
So just putting this out there, but our tours, if he's not
29:55
owned, I might go pick him up. Yep.
29:58
And also on the leaves, like at practice today, we saw OEL
30:02
quarterbacking power play 1 instead of Morgan Riley.
30:04
So something to mention because. Only someone could have
30:08
predicted this. Well, if you look at the bigger
30:11
management, we predicted it, all of three of us.
30:15
I don't know which direction his box is, but in my camera he's
30:17
right. Above me on the boat goes up.
30:21
Kevin was saying Kevin was saying that Morgan Riley was,
30:26
you know, the second coming of Jesus.
30:27
So we'll. See what happens?
30:29
Five shots and two of his first like 5 games so and.
30:33
That's why no massive sample size was this.
30:36
He has three points in his last two games.
30:38
You guys listen, he's not. He's not cooked.
30:40
You should definitely trade for Morgan Riley.
30:44
Anyways. Kevin said Morgan Riley is so
30:47
good that he can make boats fly. That's what happened.
30:50
I did not say that. I did not say that.
30:53
And we just did that to Morgan Riley when I was in the basement
30:55
and he told me that this power play one thing is just a phase.
30:58
He's gonna be back on there, guys.
31:00
Like just one more thing, Nielander on line one.
31:04
His sky is actually the limit with him.
31:06
It's crazy. He's, I think they don't,
31:07
Michelle. So I just don't see it lasting.
31:10
I think it's gonna be like he's gonna be really good while it
31:12
does last. But there's not everything that
31:15
sticks for like a long term. That's like we need a quick, I
31:18
mean. Right now because.
31:19
We're not reading enough offence but.
31:20
It's not impossible that Like Knives gets down to line 2 and
31:23
Matthews, Nylander is just. The thing yeah, yeah, I just.
31:26
Don't think that's. Imploded like 3 guys online and
31:28
just leave to various like to himself.
31:30
I know Bobby Mcmahan slander is not tolerated in front of Jake,
31:33
but it would. Pretty much scratched.
31:35
Yeah. And then he scored the
31:37
game-winning goal. Yeah, but yeah, no.
31:39
You should not have gotten. Scratched.
31:41
Yeah, exactly. I don't need an Alaska.
31:42
But for now, at least, if leaders with Matthews, they need
31:45
to get both guys going and. Yeah, it's gonna Matthews has
31:47
been underperforming so. Other than his bloggers nuts.
31:50
Are you leaving? Are you looking to trade your
31:52
Toronto assets away if you have them on your fantasy team
31:55
because they also have the worst playoff schedule?
31:58
Like they're one of those teams that has.
31:59
It's a 333 at least. Yeah, Which is game.
32:01
Weeks, it's the worst compared to all the other teams.
32:04
Some teams have like a 23443. Two.
32:06
Yeah, they're the least games over the course of the three
32:09
playoff. Weeks I'm just I'm just
32:10
splitting year one. I like when you split feathers.
32:14
Yeah, I'm never gonna sell low. So if my Toronto guys
32:17
underperforming, I'll wait until he performs.
32:19
But yes, I'd I'd have don't have much interest in having Toronto
32:22
players this year. So I would wait until the guy
32:24
starts popping off and then I would try and trade him.
32:27
Yeah, same wavelength. PLD has an LBI and is expected
32:31
to miss an extended period of time.
32:33
Chickens power play one spot should be even safer now.
32:37
I honestly, I feel like I'm the highest on Chicken out of all of
32:39
us. I've had them in my team in the
32:42
past when he was on Arizona. And I just think that he has
32:45
great category coverage in him. Like he has the ceiling of like
32:48
the shots and the blocks. He's not really a big hitter,
32:51
but I've seen what he can do. I remember, I mean the team won
32:54
the league last year, had Chicken on their team and he
32:56
went off at the end of last season or multiple months.
32:59
So I I know he has that in his bag like with anything when he
33:01
has the mind if I. Play I like him a lot without
33:05
power. Play one.
33:05
I'm not a fan at all, but now he's got.
33:06
It it's also like Washington last year was all systems go
33:10
over, you was chasing the record.
33:11
Now OV sucks and Washington there's less points to go around
33:14
the fields like so. I know saying this, but if only
33:16
someone could have seen this coming.
33:18
I've never dropped it over, so yeah, putting that out there.
33:22
It was great last year. The one year where you broke the
33:25
record and they worked so. Yeah, it was.
33:27
You know, there was nothing there saying he's gonna be
33:29
chasing the record all year and he's gonna be sick and, and he
33:32
was right. OK, as much as I want to keep
33:35
the compliments going, I do have a question.
33:37
Yes, I didn't. Raise my hand, apologies.
33:38
But anyways, Ryan Renard, we don't, we don't think that he
33:42
can infiltrate power play one at any point.
33:45
Zero. I don't.
33:46
It's just so strange to have a right winger, a defenseman
33:50
playing right wing. Like why?
33:52
It doesn't, but it's not right wing on the power play.
33:55
The way it works is way different.
33:57
It's not right wing, he's just one of the flank slots where you
33:59
can take a shot. Exactly.
34:01
And defences usually got cannon some of them.
34:04
Do also, I know you may be too young to remember this, but back
34:08
in my day there were two defensemen on every power play
34:10
unit, you know? So I don't remember that, I
34:12
don't think. Pepperidge Farm remembers, Yeah.
34:14
Exactly. But.
34:17
Yeah, I don't think that crazy. I think the next guy up is
34:20
McMichael over Leonard anyway, so I don't see Leonard getting
34:22
it. The best Connor Mick in the.
34:24
Game Yeah, alright, alright, Kevin, do some yeah, would you
34:27
Rathers our favorite. Boy, alright, don't beg, don't
34:31
peek. I thought Jackie just peaked.
34:32
I saw his cursor in Google Docs. You fool.
34:36
You think I could, man? Anyways, alright, get your
34:40
comparison apps ready because I'm about to.
34:43
What are you writing? OK, alright.
34:48
I don't know who that player is. Alright.
34:52
So this segment is the best segment in all of Menger
34:55
management. All the segments of all the
34:57
segments. Ever across all podcasts, the
35:00
Bangor management Would You Rather segment is the best
35:02
because we look at one guy against another one for every
35:06
position. Centres, left wing, right wings,
35:08
defensemen, goalies. And we're going to make you
35:11
think, and I'm going to try to split the difference between
35:14
Jackie and Josh and see if I can get them to.
35:18
Kevin honestly, yeah, China, see if he can split us.
35:22
It's not always easy, let me tell you.
35:23
I can make it difficult on myself.
35:25
But all right, let's get started with #1 the centre position.
35:31
Would you rather Sebastian Aho or Nico Hesher?
35:38
I mean, I don't even need to look at the stats.
35:40
I have my my preference right off the bat and.
35:42
That's already know issue no? Question.
35:45
Yeah, I mean, look, obviously there's the the Carolina stink,
35:50
but I think both have been underperforming.
35:53
And I mean, who do I trust more to perform better?
35:58
Definitely he sure. I think the power play is just
36:01
such an insane difference. New Jersey is one of the top
36:04
power plays in the league and Caroline is one of the worst
36:06
power plays in the league and he just got consistent linemates.
36:10
It's going to be Meyer and Mercer, which are very solid.
36:12
I know it's not Brad and Hughes, but you know, we'll have to make
36:15
do with some other very solid, even strength line mates.
36:17
And then he gets to play with those guys on power play 1.
36:19
To me, it's a no brainer. Whereas Aho can't even get
36:22
Jarvis to stick on his wing without Rod being like, you know
36:25
what, Jarvis, even starting the season 2, well, we're gonna put
36:27
you on line 3. So yeah, no, easy.
36:29
He's here for me. Even even with I just want to
36:33
throw this out there before Jake makes his decision, but holds
36:35
the point per game currently this season.
36:37
Yeah, it might be. It might not feel that way
36:38
because it's been sold tumultuous, but he sure has has
36:44
not been a point per game. And even though the power play
36:46
is clicking more for New Jersey than it is for for Carolina,
36:49
like even last year, he should put up more power play points,
36:52
average more power play points than Aho and Aho finished with
36:54
more points, average more points.
36:57
So if the power play does do better in the near future, I can
37:02
see the ceiling staying higher for AHO.
37:04
I think it's really close. I think AHA has better category
37:07
coverage. It doesn't have the I think you
37:09
have several points, but he doesn't have the face off when
37:11
seeing that he should does. Yeah, I just think in face off
37:15
when links especially he shares one of the elite, elite centres.
37:18
But take face off wins out of it.
37:19
Who are you taking cause not most leagues don't have face off
37:24
wins so I feel. Like power play points, every
37:26
league has power play points. Yes.
37:28
So I'm taking Heather still. I think that's actually the
37:32
difference maker for me that in faceoff win leagues I would take
37:36
hesher splitting feathers though it's so close and then in non
37:39
faceoffs I would take. Because we're these would you
37:43
rather some talking non face off?
37:46
Because everybody that's listening, most of them don't
37:48
play in face off win leagues. Yeah, alright, cool.
37:50
So you did it. You split it.
37:51
Yeah. So if you think about it, the
37:56
only person who's a staple on the line, one on Carolina is
38:01
Idaho. And it doesn't really.
38:03
Gonna be like a line for it. No, that's never a thing.
38:07
Like everyone else gets shuffled and it doesn't really matter
38:10
what line 1 is because, you know, line 3 right now has
38:13
Jarvis and I'm pretty sure they're gonna have a lot of
38:15
minutes, or at least he will. So it's crazy.
38:19
It's a disaster. We've spoken about the woes of
38:23
owning players on a Rod team. That being said, who's such a
38:27
good player in his own right that I think he's the safest
38:31
asset there. So I'm just going to pick him.
38:34
But it's very close. I just think that it's a little
38:37
bit more reliable to get more points and more shots on goal
38:41
with Aho, but very slightly. I think I'm going Aho as well.
38:47
Wow, I know brutal, but honestly, it's it's so ask me
38:51
tomorrow and I'll probably say he sure like I I also love he
38:54
sure. He's one of my favorite centres.
38:55
Like again tomorrow so. OK, OK, perfect.
38:58
Yeah, that one was like sad. Like it was so difficult and so,
39:03
so close that I mean, it was good, but I don't feel happy,
39:06
right? Now, and I think this next one,
39:08
though, I think people listening to this also will can get a lot
39:12
from that first question, because I think Aho and Hisher,
39:15
they've been good. You look at the stats, but if
39:18
you own them both, people like you've been disappointed if.
39:20
You streaky? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:22
Like we saw people trying to in the Discord trying to get
39:25
feature off their roster because they're kind of like, not happy
39:28
with the production currently, yeah.
39:30
You're starting with your best too, that I think you've had all
39:33
year. Honestly really excited for
39:34
this. Has a pretty good ones last
39:36
year. Let's get what's coming.
39:38
All right. This one is, I guess, spicy
39:41
because we're talking about one of the hottest players to start
39:45
this year, and I think he blew everybody away.
39:48
I don't think anybody was expecting this level of
39:50
production. I just know this is gonna be 1
39:52
of Kevin's. Players, there's not.
39:54
I wish maybe, but would you rather of the Anaheim Ducks,
39:59
Cutter Gautier or Matthew Nyes? Well, that's a really good one.
40:06
We were high on Matthew Knight going into this year with, you
40:08
know, tied to Matthews. He has the Bangor profile where
40:12
he's hitting a lot and he has been hitting a lot.
40:14
Yeah. Exposed to elite talent Cutter
40:17
Gotti, I think we were kind of like low on him this year,
40:20
right? I wanted my take was I wanna see
40:22
it before I believe it with Cutter and I'm seeing it right
40:25
now, right? So you have to kind of change
40:27
your perspective. Yeah.
40:30
I mean, I went from, I feel like one of the guys that was super
40:32
not in on cutter until like one of the guys that I'm one of the
40:36
guys the type of person that I'm really in on him now.
40:40
And one of the guys that it's funny.
40:45
Anyways, I think that I really like both these players.
40:48
We were high on nice before the season started and I think we
40:51
were dead on. Like we were absolutely right
40:52
that he's killing it and then go to it.
40:54
Like you said, I didn't have him on my radar as doing this well.
40:58
I thought he would be a bit more buried in the lineup than he is.
41:00
I think he got a bit lucky with some timely injuries that helped
41:03
his already flourishing breakout breakout even more.
41:06
The shots on goal to me is just absolutely absurd.
41:09
Despite all that, I think I still got to go.
41:11
Noise. I think noise.
41:13
The fact is that Dakota is like 1 .1 points per game, like 4.7
41:17
shots and a hit which is just. On the season, that's not like a
41:21
recent production, that's like on the season.
41:23
But then noise is like 1.2 points per game, 2.2 shots and
41:27
2.5 hits which is also insane. Double.
41:29
Double. Exactly.
41:31
And I just think that noise is deployment other deployments.
41:35
He got great nice, got bumped down to PB2.
41:37
Like that's in the realm of outcomes, now that we know.
41:39
That but then he immediately got bumped up back up.
41:42
So it's definitely something to consider.
41:44
Also, Anaheim has a bunch of injuries.
41:46
Will be interesting to see how things shake out with the Goatee
41:49
once they come back either. These are both guys I'm super
41:51
excited about, but I'm gonna go with Nice because I like his
41:54
bangers a bit more and I just think that as great as good as
41:57
shooting has been, I just don't. See, it's been insane.
42:00
I don't see I could possibly maintain a 4.7 shots on goal per
42:03
game. He's also like the type of
42:04
player that he's young enough that we don't actually know what
42:07
his true production should look like, right?
42:08
So he's kind of finding his groove in that way, yeah.
42:12
I mean. Yeah, fair enough.
42:14
But nice has been the line up more often, where Cutter is
42:16
like, this is his first year, like cemented in the lineup and
42:19
yeah, he's getting a chance to play.
42:21
Look if the question. Is you can average five shots by
42:24
accident. For sure, no, I don't think it's
42:26
a fluke or anything like that. If you're asking who's the
42:28
better draft value, I mean go to I'm sure got drafted like 10
42:31
rounds later. Than 9 might not even have
42:34
gotten drafted in most of your. Life, yeah, he's definitely more
42:36
value for the draft spot. I still think Nice has the edge
42:39
over him, but I think it's super close.
42:42
Yeah, I mean, you know, Gautier had tons of hype coming into the
42:45
league. He was drafted this Lefkofsky
42:47
year, which I don't know if we're going to be calling it
42:50
that for much longer after after seeing his new production this
42:55
year. I mean, he's amazing.
42:57
And the other thing is that he's a goal scorer, so the shots
43:00
aren't really surprising. And that's like the one
43:01
encouraging thing to see that it may not that the goals would
43:06
necessarily be so elite, but that the shots are going to be
43:08
kept up. Right.
43:09
Yeah. Because right now he's seven
43:11
goals, 5 assists at the time of this recording, whereas noise is
43:15
4:00 and 12:00. So I mean, they're both.
43:19
Matthews Matthews goal score, so that adds up.
43:21
Yeah, they're both super good. The thing is that when it's all
43:26
said and done at the end of the year, I expect them to be
43:28
similar points and go take to get almost twice as many shots
43:32
as nice. The hits are gonna be closer
43:35
than I would say the shots are relative to the category.
43:41
I'd say now is going to be 2.25 something like that and go to
43:46
it's going to be like 1, maybe 1.2.
43:49
So that's great. I mean, you're happy with the
43:51
Bobcats for either. When it comes down to it though,
43:54
I'm going to go noise, which I hate to do because God is going
43:58
to be more fun. And the reason is because it's
44:00
gonna come in streaks with Gozier.
44:01
So there will be weeks where you going to hold them or it's going
44:03
to be like nothing. I think with Anaheim coming back
44:06
and being a good team and we'll see the line shuffling etc.
44:10
Plus young players are streaky so it is what it is.
44:13
And then noise is going to be stapled to Matthews or to Virus
44:16
and power play 1 all year. So even though let's say they
44:20
both get around 80 points this year, which would be amazing and
44:24
the back categories are a little bit more outstanding.
44:27
Slush fund for Gautier. Why I'm choosing now is because
44:30
those 80 points are going to come like once every two games
44:35
he will get one or two points, whereas for Goodyear it's going
44:38
to be like 3 points in a game and then no points over three to
44:42
four games type thing. That's the way I see it shaking
44:46
out. Yeah, I'm also going nice since
44:51
nobody asked. But no, I just, I just think
44:55
that I like the floor of the double double.
44:58
I feel like that's a guarantee. It feels like Yeah and.
45:01
Something like go to your shots like they're unreal and I don't
45:04
think it's gonna stop shooting, but 4.7 is just unsustainable
45:06
for anyone. Even like McKinnon doesn't shoot
45:09
4.7. Or he can hover, I think go take
45:12
in the season. Not like a 3.5 or 3.8 type of
45:15
thing. Yeah.
45:16
And that's also enough to be like an extreme value.
45:19
I do think right now for looking at his game log and looking in
45:21
the stats that sell high, absolutely.
45:24
I do not think he ends the season.
45:25
As a point per game they can return honestly.
45:27
Absolutely. For sure, for sure.
45:29
I mean you could be tempted to trade for like a Panera and I
45:34
feel like is the buy low right now.
45:35
Everybody wants to buy Panarin and the Panarin owners,
45:38
everybody wants to sell Panera. So I feel like it's a match
45:39
didn't have. Everybody wants to buy and
45:41
everybody wants to. Sell.
45:42
So I don't like that one. Yeah, that's crazy.
45:46
Anyways, next one talk about right wingers here.
45:48
So whole Cofield or Jason Robertson?
45:54
This one's. I didn't want to put Jason
45:56
Roberts in here. I wanted to find a different.
45:58
I wanted to find a different name.
45:59
But I feel like I used him somewhat often by someone often.
46:02
I feel like I've used them already once this season but.
46:06
OK, let's see what's going on with these guys.
46:09
Taking I'm going to go with go with Caulfield here.
46:13
So firstly, I actually think Caulfield to sell high, which
46:16
pains me to say as a Habs fan, but he's just been so crazy good
46:22
that it's just ridiculous. That being said, even if he is a
46:25
sell high, it's because I think you get something like better
46:28
than Robertson and Robertson. We know this with Dallas,
46:32
they're a little bit all over the place with their lines etc.
46:36
And they've both been, as we said, Robertson is sort of
46:40
surprised to the upside. But I just think that ball field
46:43
ceiling this year is is much more elite.
46:48
He's gonna like he's gonna be that guy to be in a position all
46:52
the time and overtime, which apparently the haves loved
46:54
playing in, which distressful yet yet great for fantasy
46:59
because it's more time on ice. He's gonna have the most shots
47:02
on the team. And you know what?
47:03
More than anything, I don't think that Robertson's, and I
47:07
can't believe I'm saying this, but I think Robertson is playing
47:09
with a playmaker as good as Suzuki.
47:11
And I know ratings. Elite Suzuki, Suzuki.
47:14
Suzuki is the most points in the NHL, most points in the NHL
47:18
since the Four Nations face off. Do you realize that?
47:22
That's nuts. Like he's so, so elite and he's
47:25
feeding the puck to Caulfield for goals.
47:28
So I'm gonna have to go with Caulfield here.
47:31
Yeah, I'm trying to take out the homerism and trying to take out
47:35
the Kevins nudism. But despite all that, I still
47:39
think I gotta go with Cofield. Look, I looked at their two
47:43
averages and Cofield over a point per game right now with .4
47:46
power play points. Robertson's at like .85 points
47:49
per game with also like .38 power play points.
47:52
Points when you look at the .4 and then you look at the shots,
47:55
Robertson had like 4.3 shots and Coffee is only like 2.9.
47:58
And if you, if I was convinced I was gonna stay, I would go with
48:02
Robertson. But I just have don't think
48:05
there's any chance Robertson keeps shooting at this.
48:07
I'd say he could end up let's say 3.5 and you're super happy
48:10
with it. And in the same vein, I think
48:12
Cofield should be shooting more than he is right now.
48:14
I think he should end with over 3.
48:16
So let's say their shots are end up much closer than they are
48:18
right now. I trust Cofield to get more
48:20
points in power play points. And it's like we saw with the
48:23
lineup where Cofield stapled line one, power play one.
48:26
There's no chance that that's getting changed.
48:29
Whereas Robertson recently they put Robertson, Johnston and
48:32
Ranton as line one. We'll see how long that takes.
48:35
It could be for like a game, it could be for a week, but it's
48:37
not going to be long term, especially once Hints comes back
48:39
and wants to Shane comes back. So it's all gonna get shuffled
48:42
for the most part. Robertson was playing with
48:44
Johnston on line 2/3, whatever you consider it.
48:47
But it's one of those things we mentioned a ton of times with
48:48
Dallas just having so many good lines that they don't need to
48:51
pack the top line with as much ice time.
48:54
Anyways, I'm going Cofield for all those reasons.
48:58
I'm also going Cofield. I wanted to raise the question
49:01
though, because. Fans all chose.
49:02
Cofield, surprise, surprise, but we we're used to seeing Roberts
49:07
and kind of hover around just slightly over two shots per
49:09
game. I feel like in recent years
49:10
that's kind of been where he's at.
49:12
So the fact that he's at 44, we're almost 5 weeks into the
49:15
season at this point. So you kind of want to try to
49:18
get a sense of like what the actual metric is going to be
49:20
this year for him. And I mean, I'm a Robertson
49:23
hater, you know that. But he's definitely been better
49:25
than I anticipated. I did not expect this kind of
49:27
production this season, but the fact that he's not only at half
49:31
his points are the power play, that's not sustainable.
49:33
So if the power play slows down, I expect this 535 production to
49:37
stay around the same. For the moment, I'm going coffee
49:40
list think the foundation is set and what we're getting now is
49:43
this floor and I think he can get like a point per game
49:46
whereas Roberts and I feel like you'll be more tough for him to
49:49
get there so. Yeah, that's and you know the
49:51
goals are insane, right? Like 10 goals in 12 games.
49:55
Yeah, that's not sustainable either.
49:58
Yeah, that's not the floor, but I.
50:01
Think the most goals in OT ever. Like that's how it feels like to
50:05
go to like alright, cold Cofield goal money, literally.
50:09
I was annoyed when New Hook scored that goal like you're
50:11
supposed to save it for. Coffee.
50:12
Yeah, exactly. This is the script.
50:16
Yeah, OK, I think, yeah. Yeah.
50:19
All right. Next one.
50:20
Talk about defensemen. This ones for Jakey.
50:23
Would you rather Mikhail Sergachev or Matthew Schaefer?
50:28
The current called her favorite question mark.
50:31
He's got to win the Calder. I loved it off.
50:33
But there's just, I mean, obviously it's.
50:35
Still think it's a race, but Schaefer right now, if you had
50:37
to vote right now, probably safer.
50:39
If you have to vote right now, I'd expect Shafer to get every
50:41
single first place vote. Yeah.
50:43
I think that's right now, but there's all.
50:45
Season ahead, I think you go first because he's more.
50:50
More yeah, because he has Sergeyev.
50:53
So I maintain that Shavers is still high and like he was, he
50:59
was my choice a few weeks ago. That being said, when it comes
51:04
down to it, I think that what you're seeing out of him is
51:06
like, it's way better production on a horrible team relative.
51:12
Shots are just. Doing are nice.
51:15
They are. I mean, Sergachev is honestly
51:17
such a good defenseman on a good team, but the surrounding cast
51:22
leads me to believe that. It's almost like when you have a
51:26
good player on a bad team, this is less good player on a better
51:29
team. You usually for offensive
51:32
players, I would say it's 5050, what you're gonna be happy with.
51:35
But like Philip Forsberg, for instance, you know, good player,
51:38
bad team, everything runs through him.
51:40
For defensemen, you usually need the surrounding CAS, but somehow
51:43
Schaefer is like defying the odds and making it like just
51:47
putting out absolutely insane production even by himself.
51:50
So The thing is, is that it leads me to believe that it's
51:54
not sustainable. Nevertheless, Sergachev just
51:58
doesn't shoot that much. And I think that when it's when
52:02
it comes down to it, I'm happier having like the floor, if you
52:06
will of Schaefers production, even though it's gonna be
52:09
inconsistent. So I'm going to give this edge
52:11
to Shafer very, very slightly. Don't expect it to continue.
52:16
The last 14 days average is at .71 with three shots in 1.14.
52:21
That's more reasonable that his season average which is .83 with
52:27
also three shots. So I'm expecting it to be in the
52:29
.75 ish. But considering the shot
52:31
discrepancy, which I think will continue, I'm happier with
52:35
Shafer I think. I'm going to go with Sergachev
52:38
on this one. I'll take that as a compliment
52:41
because it's on my team, but. Yeah, no, I just think that
52:45
there's no way in my mind that Schaefer ends with more points
52:48
than Sergachev. Just look at that.
52:50
You guys know I'm super high on Utah and they're proving me
52:52
right. And just that power play is
52:54
unreal. That entire top 6 is unreal.
52:57
Sergachev is the pretty much only offensive defenseman on
53:00
that team, at least when jerseys injured.
53:02
And even with Jersey back, it's not like it's remotely close.
53:05
So I think points wise, power play, points wise, easily
53:08
Sergachev shots. I think Schaefer has the edge
53:11
that three shots on goal average.
53:13
He had one shot game. That's not gonna you know that
53:15
definitely skews it when there's been so few games left.
53:17
I'd be surprised if he ends with more than 2.5 shots per game.
53:21
Circuit events at like 1.8. So it's like a .7 shot
53:23
difference, not the end of the world.
53:25
And then circuit blocks more on either one of them hit so much.
53:27
So I think the points in power play points and circuit gets
53:31
more pins if you're accounts that.
53:32
So for me, I'm going. I'm realizing that I
53:35
contradicted my he was a target Mikhail Sergachev, so I feel a
53:41
little bad about that, but at this point I think because of
53:44
the height you can get. Better the Shaffer owner and
53:46
tell him to send you that trade. Yeah, I don't even know.
53:49
I mean, it's like I just feel like at this point, like because
53:53
of the production has continued, you can even aim higher than
53:55
circuit chip. I also have Victor Hedman and
53:58
more cider there. I also have Mackenzie Weeger,
54:00
but I think that ship has kind of sailed.
54:03
But yeah, I mean, look, to me, Shafer still sell high because
54:08
he's young. And Hudson did this last year in
54:12
20. He's 18 Schaefer.
54:14
I mean, most people who are 18 are not playing in the NHL, let
54:19
alone producing at this level. But I still think that they want
54:23
him to succeed. They're gonna give him humongous
54:24
minutes. So that's why I think at this
54:27
point, there's a little bit of an edge to Shafer, but it's so
54:30
close. Real feather splitter today,
54:32
Kevin. What are you going with?
54:36
I mean it's pretty close for me because I do like the foundation
54:39
of that Shaper brings with the shots for your fantasy team and
54:42
from a defenseman also, that's really nice.
54:43
But I'm also going to Circuit Chef just because I think the
54:47
deployment, first of all is set. He's playing with better talent
54:51
around him. But I can see Sir Chef ending
54:53
this season with like .8 points per game and Schafer ending at
54:56
like .7, Shafer getting like 2.5 shots, Circuit Chef getting like
55:01
1.8. But the power play, I expect it
55:03
to be different at the end of the season as well, like which
55:05
could and would .4 I would not be shocked.
55:07
Schaefer, I'd probably be shocked if he ends up with .4.
55:10
Like I see that more as like a .25 kind of situation for me.
55:14
So I'm going circuit chip. But right now the production is
55:17
honestly like undeniable from Schaefer and we'll see if we can
55:20
keep it up. Like it's hard to keep that up
55:21
for a whole season from a defence team, let alone a
55:23
rookie. So it's definitely worth raising
55:26
the question. I think right now you can make
55:27
that swap too if you have one or the other.
55:29
So all right, let's touch on this last one, the goalie
55:32
position. This is I don't want to shoot
55:35
myself in the foot, but this was my least citing one I think I
55:37
put on there. I want to touch on some goalies
55:39
that are not super high all necessarily or like super talked
55:42
about. So hopefully this is helpful to
55:44
the viewers and the listeners, But I'm asking the question,
55:48
would you rather Yakub Dobesh or Jeremy Swagman rest of season?
55:55
Wow. This is an easy one.
55:57
For me it's. Because it's the opposite one.
56:02
Go 1st. I'm going swimming for sure.
56:05
You're crazy and. I mean.
56:08
Like they're literally playing Montana tonight.
56:11
Swamin has zero competition for the starting job.
56:14
That's not true. Corporate Salo was actually not
56:17
awful in his starts and they even asked the question like can
56:20
you see corporate getting some run?
56:22
Here, said Nah. So there.
56:25
You go, they raised the question.
56:26
It means it was worth raising so.
56:28
OK. Let's say Corpus all is a 5%
56:30
risk at taking the starting job, and I'd say Montegos up like 70%
56:36
risk of taking the starter job. So I think that I'd rather have
56:40
the goalie who's gonna play more games and get me more volume.
56:44
At the end of the day, it's kind of similar we had mentioned
56:46
earlier with the Carolina goalies, right?
56:47
Do you want a goalie who's gonna play half the games, maybe less,
56:51
and he's gonna put up 6 stats in those games?
56:53
Do you want to go he's gonna play twice as many games but on
56:56
a much worse team? I always prefer going to the
56:59
volume because even a goalie on a good team could put up a
57:01
stinker 1 now and then. If that's the only game of the
57:03
week they're getting for you then it really screws you over.
57:06
Whereas with volume you can make up for a bad game over the
57:09
course of like many saves or time or many periods.
57:12
Yeah, so anyways, I'm going swam in even though the haves are way
57:15
better than Boston. Yeah, it's just the the reason
57:18
I'm going Dobesh is because I don't think Montavon's staple
57:21
there Like they want look, they they're giving it to him because
57:24
they want him to be the starting goalie.
57:26
And he won his last game, but barely.
57:28
Double has been an absolute. Monster.
57:30
They want to be the starter then.
57:32
The goal? Yeah.
57:32
Yeah, I I hear you. Outperform every step of the
57:35
way. Yeah, but also there's something
57:37
to be said about. Every step of the way.
57:39
There's something to be said about earning your playing time
57:42
to monties playing tonight, right?
57:44
Let's say they lose and he gets doesn't put up a good
57:47
performance. I want to get wrecked but or
57:49
they win despite his bad performance.
57:52
Are they going to go for him again when Dobesh is putting
57:55
nine 50s? I just don't see a world like, I
57:59
think Martha would have to play really awful and Dobesh would
58:02
have to keep up these numbers, which is impossible.
58:04
I love him, but he's talking about 950 and 100% win
58:07
percentage the whole season. OK.
58:09
So I think it's gonna be a lot closer.
58:11
And I think that if it's close, they're gonna lean with Montana
58:14
over Dobish. But like, Multiple does not have
58:18
some sort of amazing, impressive contract that they need to play
58:21
in. Like, you can't justify putting
58:23
an $8 million goalie on the bench, you know, if Quick is out
58:26
playing the way I see they're playing.
58:28
Shurkin, yeah. In the playoffs last year,
58:31
Montana was amazing and then Dobish came in and did not play
58:33
that well and I think when a team is.
58:35
Performing is also young, though.
58:37
For sure, yeah. But I think when a team is
58:39
performing as well as the Habs are, or just when you have a
58:42
team with leadership who has a good vision for the future, is
58:46
not thinking the term. They have to be thinking going
58:48
into the playoffs, who do we want to be our starting goalie?
58:50
And I think right now they want they're starting goalie to be
58:53
Montalvo. And if that's the case, you have
58:54
to give them Games over. The course, there's a difference
58:56
between who we want to be the starting going, who deserves to
58:59
be the starting goalie. Yeah, but I think.
59:01
It's definitely worth mentioning.
59:02
Opportunity. I think Dobesh could win it, but
59:05
Dobesh has an uphill battle or a swinging has no competition.
59:08
But then when Swamin plays, they're gonna lose and he's
59:12
going to have horrible rate stats.
59:15
Barely. I mean, he's off to a rough
59:17
start, but he also started off really strong.
59:19
Then you know, now is on like a bad streak, but he takes a
59:22
couple of good games and his averages get evened.
59:24
Out as low as I am on Lindhome for fantasy and as great as
59:29
Marat's about to be. TM for sure. 100% guaranteed.
59:32
Definitely not. I think that it's really likely.
59:37
Winner on their team. Yeah, no, he's OK, obviously.
59:41
Pasternak. Amazing.
59:44
So that is very funny, though. Obviously, like Boston's gonna
59:48
win a game here and there, but I think that with, you know, 70%
59:54
of the starts, like Dobesh versus Swamin, I think Dobesh is
59:58
gonna end up with more wins. Look, if you ask me who has the
1:00:02
higher ceiling, I'd go with Dobesh, because if he can't
1:00:04
steal that starting job, I'd much rather have the starter on
1:00:06
the haves than on Bruins. I'm just skeptical.
1:00:09
Would you rather have Dobesh? If he's guaranteed 50% of the
1:00:12
starts, he only gets 50%. It I mean I generally prefer
1:00:19
having a volume guy who puts up worse stats or worse raised
1:00:22
stats than a tandem guy who's on a better team.
1:00:25
That's just my preference and how I build my team.
1:00:27
But it really depends on your goalie, cats and who your second
1:00:31
goal you're pairing him with. What if you get penalized for
1:00:34
losses which. Is pretty changes things a lot.
1:00:37
If you get penalized for losses, I'll give you Dobish.
1:00:39
OK, OK, but you're starting your fantasy league.
1:00:43
You have the pick one between the two, I'm telling you get 50%
1:00:47
of the starts. So aim is getting 80% of the
1:00:49
starts, Yeah. Who are you starting your
1:00:51
fantasy team with? I prefer a guy who's going to
1:00:55
get more starts. I just hate rostering a guy
1:00:57
who's gonna play one game in a week.
1:01:00
He could play 2 some weeks. Yeah, I guess.
1:01:03
But like some weeks he's going to play one, every second week
1:01:07
he'll probably play 1. Game, but it'll be a really good
1:01:08
one. You don't even know that though.
1:01:10
Even the best bullies drinkers if that's the if it's on one
1:01:14
game week for him and he puts a bad game then he just only did
1:01:16
negatives for. You alright?
1:01:17
I'll wrap up this conversation, I think.
1:01:19
You've been in America too long. My my take is in the short term
1:01:26
I'd rather do best in the long term I I'd rather swim in just
1:01:29
because I do think women ends up getting more starts.
1:01:33
But I I honestly am very optimistic about Dobesh just
1:01:36
because how I'm seeing the situation right now is that they
1:01:39
want Monty to be the starter to coach keeps talking about Monty
1:01:42
being the starter but Dobesh is playing like the starter and at
1:01:47
some point you gotta give it to the guy deserves it.
1:01:49
I think Saint Louis is also like he's a players guide too right?
1:01:52
Like if Dobesh is not losing games, how do you just not play
1:01:56
him right? 100%.
1:01:57
Do I think Dobesh can be? Exactly.
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Do I think Dobesh is never gonna lose the game this season?
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No. Yes, I hope so as I have, but I
1:02:08
I think we have to be also realistic about the situation
1:02:11
and there's a lot of context that goes into it.
1:02:13
I don't think Monty will be this bad for for long periods of
1:02:16
time, but I think Dobesh may actually be a quality goalie
1:02:19
that forces them into more of a split playing time, which may be
1:02:23
bad for fantasy, better for the Habs that have two quality
1:02:27
goalies that can play. But we know that swam in I think
1:02:30
is going to get the bulk of the starts.
1:02:31
He was paid also recently. So it's just Boston is not going
1:02:35
to be good. Latina's going to be competing
1:02:37
this year. So Swamin Dobish and half half.
1:02:41
Yes, exactly split. The middle.
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