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Ballerina (2023) | Full Movie Review / Ep. 56 · Daebak K-Rambles Podcast: K-drama Reviews

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  I'm Rico. And I'm Jessica, and this is the
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  Always The Critic podcast. And Tebak K Rambles podcast
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  where a couple of friends review the latest movies.
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  And Korean dramas, If you're wondering what's going on, we're
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  in the middle of this mini spooky season over on Tebak K
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  Rambles, and you're listening to a crossover episode.
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  Rico. I know.
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  Hey, Rico is the OG cohost of Tebak, and even though his work
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  schedule takes him away from being able to cohost, he's still
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  producing every episode. And we usually talk about movies
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  weekly on Always the critics. So, Rico, how have you been the
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  last time you were here? Was Sweet Home for that review?
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  Yes, Sweet Home, which would have fit perfectly in this
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  season that you're doing right now.
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  Yeah. So I've been doing pretty well,
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  just, you know, watching as many movies as I can.
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  Which if you look at my output, it doesn't really seem like a
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  lot. It actually seems like I'm not
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  really trying, but I'm actually making an effort in in trying to
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  watch movies, trying to get out there and, you know, put my AMC
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  A list to good use. Yeah, we went today and watched
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  Hocus Pocus in theaters, which was.
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  Super nice, I thought, OK, like whatever, Hocus pocus, it should
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  be fun. But then I walked out and I was
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  like, that was a really fun experience because the audience
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  was packed and. We had this dude that was
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  sitting in front of the row in front of us.
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  I don't even know why he was there.
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  He didn't come with any kids, any like spouse or anything.
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  He was sitting in between two older couples, which I was like
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  OK2 elderly couples sitting in the hocus focus.
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  But OK this guy was having the best time.
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  He was laughing at all the jokes.
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  He was into it. So it was a nice hot crowd.
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  That is pretty cool. I know I love when a crowd.
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  It's a good crowd, love a good crowd in movie theater.
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  And Speaking of hot crowds, next week, like I got to figure out.
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  I got to talk to Daniel Romero. He's a friend of the show.
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  He's been on the show and because he has tickets for the
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  the Swift concert movie, exactly.
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  So I need to get it from him. Oh, right, right.
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  Because you're going to get his tickets right.
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  I think I'm seeing it on next Saturday.
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  So for those who don't know, and maybe don't live in America,
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  we're talking about the Taylor Swift Eras Tour concert movie
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  which is coming out. In theaters and is single
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  handedly saving the movie theater this season because of
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  the dual strikes for WGA and SAG AFRA.
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  So we're glad to see Taylor doing a good deed here.
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  And not for, not for all of us, really, but excited to see the
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  show again because I did manage everything I know movie theater
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  she's boosting the. I know everywhere she goes, man.
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  I know, I know, OK, But this is like a huge tangent.
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  So anyway, we're here to review the Netflix original movie that
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  just came out. I had kind of saw the trailer
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  and I was like, ooh, this looks good.
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  And I showed it to you, Rico, And you were like, OK, like, it
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  looks pretty, pretty good. What?
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  What did you think when I showed you this trailer?
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  I thought, OK, it looks like a fun action thriller type of
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  movie, you know, where we get to see, you know when a female lead
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  kick ass you know. And so the movie that we're
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  talking about that is the movie Ballerina.
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  It's on Netflix. It just came out and I watched
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  the last night. You watched the last night, I'm
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  guessing as well. I.
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  Watched it a couple hours ago. Oh, a couple hours.
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  Oh, so you're even more fresh than I am.
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  Gotcha. So yeah, we're definitely gonna
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  supporter already, we really appreciate it.
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  So today, let's talk about the movie Ballerina Jessica.
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  What is that movie about? I got you, the IMDb synopsis
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  reads. Grieving the loss of a best
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  friend she couldn't protect, an ex bodyguard sets out to fulfill
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  her dear friend's last wish, sweet revenge.
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  It is directed and written by Ichung Hyun, who has done a few
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  other movies and one miniseries. But the movie that I have
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  watched is The Call from 2020, which also probably fits really
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  well with the spooky season because.
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  Yeah, and it also stars the same female lead, John.
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  OK, hope I don't mispronounce her name Jong.
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  I've already got it wrong. John Jong so plays Okchu in
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  ballerina. And she was also in the call,
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  which she was. I don't know if I want to spoil
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  it. I'll just say she was in the
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  call. She's in the movie The Call.
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  Yes, and it's really good. And it also stars Pakshene from
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  the heirs. OK, got it.
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  Memories of the Alhambra. So those are some of other shows
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  from Pak Shune. But this movie ballerina also
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  stars Kim Diyun as pro toy. I just made a TikTok about this
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  man. He's like ridiculously hot in
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  this movie. There is no like, no reason for
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  it, no. The shots that they have of him
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  like cleaning the car, watching the car.
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  Do you remember these? Like I was like, what is going
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  on? Why?
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  But OK, yeah, OK. OK, fine, so Kinsey and you
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  might have seen him in Flower of Evil, which we have also covered
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  on the Tebak feed. He is the I don't want to spoil
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  it. Anyway, he's in that show.
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  And he's maybe not so good for Jong so Oh my God.
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  Jong Jong. So the female lead.
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  You might have seen her in Burning as well.
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  The 2018 movie Do. You remember that movie?
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  Yes, she's doing it OK. She's in it.
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  She's the girl. Yeah.
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  Yeah. You know what?
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  I kept looking at her. I was like, where is she from?
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  And I couldn't quite place it. And there we go.
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  Now I have an answer. Yeah, there it is.
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  And we have Pak Yudim plays Mini.
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  And then we have a few other really noticeable or notable
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  people in here. We have Pak Hyung Su as Myung
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  Shik. He's the pharmacist.
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  We have Kim Moyol as the CEO. You might have seen him in
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  Forgotten Yeah, Forgotten with Kanganul, which is also like a
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  thriller that I just watched the other day.
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  Like, this is incredible because I was like, Oh my God, all these
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  people together. And then we have Kim Yongkok as
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  sort of a bit player. She's the gun dealer.
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  This is the grandma that we see in every single K drama.
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  Got it. I love her, actually.
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  You've seen her because she was also the old housekeeper in Boys
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  Over Flowers. Oh, OK.
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  Yes, flowers. Oh my God.
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  I know we can't rehash it. We can't.
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  No, no, no, no. We don't have to.
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  We don't have to. But if you want to hear our take
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  on Boys Over Flowers, you got to scroll all the way back in your
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  podcast feed on the Tebak feed. It's episode one.
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  I'll go ahead and give the the critics consensus because the
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  Rotten Tomatoes score based on 7/7 reviews.
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  So far is 100% and then the audience score is also 100%.
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  Oh my God. This tickles us because we're
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  constantly looking at the Rotten Tomatoes score for our weekly
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  movies. That's always a critic, and it's
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  never 100%. Even great movies.
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  Yeah, never 100% the best movies ever.
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  No, like 98 is what you can hope for, right?
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  No. Like, Rotten Tomatoes has its
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  own issues and like, I don't know, whatever.
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  Yeah, but yeah, 100%. So, Rico, what did you think of
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  this movie? So I was watching the movie,
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  right? I saw the runtime of an hour 33.
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  I was like, oh, I was like. Blessed, yes, and somehow it
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  still felt long. Get out.
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  I think this is a bad movie. Get out.
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  This is a bad movie. I think so here's why I think
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  it's a bad movie. I think the reason why it's bad
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  is that the movie does not really give us full reason to
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  care for the lead character. I think that they do not such a
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  great job of making you care for the relationship with her best
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  friend. They do flashbacks, you know and
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  the way the movie kind of treats it like you you can't tell if
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  it's a best friend or if it's like a lover like the way you
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  know they they kind of dance with that.
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  I think the the surrounding antagonist or the villain I'm
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  talking about like the CEO and like the gang related stuff
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  doesn't really like integrate itself well into the movie.
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  I think that they do it kind of haphazardly.
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  I feel like this movie is all style, no substance, because you
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  know what it feels like. And the I kept getting this
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  feeling is that the movie looks like it was shot as a music
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  video. A lot of the movements, a lot of
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  the lights, a lot of the types of things that you would see
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  like in today's current iteration of music videos.
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  That's how this movie was shot, which in a lot of cases it looks
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  cool. You know, I think that it left
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  me wanting more in terms of the action.
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  I don't think there's enough action in this movie.
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  That's feels it's supposed to be a revenge action movie and it
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  kind of falls short on that. There's not enough of that
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  either and with the action the way the way it's it's shot, it's
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  way too many movements. So it's like you can't even
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  appreciate like the full line, like fight scenes all the way
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  through. So overall, I was having a hard
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  time enjoying this movie. I was like looking for reasons
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  to really enjoy it. And I could point here and
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  there, but for the most part I just sat here and I was like,
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  well, that was a movie and So what?
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  What did you think, Jessica? OK, so when you said you didn't
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  like it, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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  But then I kind of just agreed with everything that you said.
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  Because I think it's really. Beautiful to look at, and it
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  reminded me a lot of the recent John Wick movies.
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  Yes, we had like a lot of that neon binary lighting.
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  Oh for sure. And they're definitely drawing
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  stuff from John Wick. But when you start drawing stuff
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  from John Wick, you naturally draw the comparisons as well,
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  because you. Have this sort of invincible
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  central character. With a bone to pick, right?
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  Yeah. And I think that her performance
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  is so like stiff, like she, she doesn't.
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  She gives us maybe one or two moments of like emotion, but for
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  the most part she plays it like very flat in terms of she's not
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  going to give us anything in the face like in terms of like
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  emotions emoting her, her demeanor as a character is just
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  no intimidation at all. And that's by design in the
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  movie. But even after the audience
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  knows that she is like a badass killer, even then it's kind of
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  like well, I want to see more of her being this badass killer and
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  we don't really get it. So, so that's one of my
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  complaints. I think for me, I was hoping
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  that she was the ballerina, Yes, that's another thing that was.
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  Really hoping. And I thought, what I thought
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  that she was the ballerina going into it.
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  But she's not. She's not.
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  She is getting revenge for the ballerina.
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  Correct, right. There is an element to this that
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  is real. I can't remember what
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  documentary it was, but I watched this documentary in
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  South Korea from South Korea. Not that I was in South Korea
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  and watching this documentary, but it was from South Korea and
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  it was this serial killer who was doing what the villain was
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  doing in this movie who was like a well off dude he was.
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  You know, maybe this is spoiling it.
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  I'll just leave this. I'll just leave this for the
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  spoiler section. Like what?
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  The real life story that I watched and I was like, this is
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  very similar. I'll leave that for the spoiler
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  section. But anyway, I felt like it had
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  roots in reality. But, but bringing in the gang or
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  cartel or whatever you want to call it was a little bit jarring
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  because you're like, oh, he's. Not this one off, dude.
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  He's got this whole infrastructure behind him and in
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  my mind, I was expecting it to get way more intense, like, oh,
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  now the the hunt is on. Because he's not alone.
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  It's not this one off dude who she's trying to get revenge on,
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  It's everybody else that's backing him.
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  Like, she has to dismantle the whole thing, right?
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  The movie kind of wants to lead you there, but I don't think it
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  really. Has a It's just underwhelming.
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  Yeah, exactly. It's underwhelming.
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  It's not a satisfying way of getting there.
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  And also, with what you're saying, his character, once it's
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  revealed that there's like an entire cartel.
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  I thought, like we were being introduced to like the big bad,
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  and it doesn't really go that way.
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  But we'll talk more about that in spoilers, though.
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  Did you like the inclusion of the high school student?
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  The high school student Her name is.
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  How do you pronounce it? She didn't say Hui.
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  Yes, that's her. Real name, right.
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  That's her real name. Yeah, I see.
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  What they were trying to do is that they were trying to
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  integrate like a naive, helpless type of victim type of character
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  for the bodyguard to be in charge of and to look after.
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  But it it didn't really no amount to anything good or
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  anything. Well, like you think that's
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  going to let us a fire in her to really dismantle this cartel,
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  human trafficking gang or whatever.
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  And she's just kind of chill about it, like there's no
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  reaction from her. No, it's.
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  And it's not even like they don't even do a good job of,
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  like, making it so that she sees the ballerina in her, like, you
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  know, drawing comparisons. Right, yes, because that would
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  have been good to do, you know. That she maybe reminded her of
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  her friend, but they don't do a good job of doing that.
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  I wish they would have. And then you you get more
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  sympathy for her relationship and the way she's dealing with
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  everything going on with her friend, her old friend, the
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  ballerina. So one thing I will say that the
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  the acting in this movie kind of ranges like there's good
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  performances. Like I would say, Pro Troy, the
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  character as a villain, he's menacing like he.
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  Like, you like that dude. Yeah.
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  I think what he did really good at being what he is, just like
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  this, a sadistic, like into some weird and legal and crazy shit.
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  And he he does it in this terrifying way.
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  When he looks at like women, he has like this really disgusting
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  like look about him that was very convincing, like as a
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  villain. So shout out to him.
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  I did not like me and Chick the pharmacist.
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  You didn't like the pharmacist? No, I didn't like the
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  pharmacist. Bro, you didn't recognize him.
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  That's one of the brothers, the evil brother from Crash landing
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  on you. Yeah, it was, wasn't it?
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  Yeah, I was trying to play some and I was like, I know this
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  dude. But like, yeah, that performance
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  was so like, I don't know. It kind of felt like over the
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  top, just like. Oh, really?
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  OK, yeah. Well, ooh, there's here's
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  another question about the way we watch the movie.
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  In terms of watching it, how did you watch it?
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  I know Netflix, but like, subtitles dub.
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  What? How did you go about?
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  It, bro. So I don't know why, but like,
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  Netflix is constantly pushing dubs on me, yeah.
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  Every. So I press play and I watch a
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  lot of Korean stuff on Netflix. It knows me.
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  I never do anything dub. I never choose dub.
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  I always choose Subs. And it started talk like the guy
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  in the convenience store started talking and it was dubbed in
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  English. And I was like, what the hell is
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  this? I had to stop, put on the sub,
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  make sure it was good, and then play it again.
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  Did that happen for you too? It did, but I did not change it,
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  no I. Left it and you watched the dub.
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  I watched the dub with subtitles as well, which was hilarious to
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  me because they would say something, but you would read
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  something different. So that was fun killing me.
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  I'm not, you know, taking points away from there.
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  I'm not because that. And they just dumped it it, but
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  it was, it was so funny to me that some of the things that
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  they said didn't quite match, like the subtitle itself, like
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  they would change around some words or stuff like that.
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  So so I just wanted to get that out of the way.
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  Jessica watched it the correct way, which is no dubs with
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  subtitles, and I watched it with a dub and subtitles.
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  I cannot working mistake by me. I was working mistake by me.
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  But yeah, there's a couple things that like just kind of
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  don't really make sense to me as to why they happened in the
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  movie. And we'll talk about that in
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  spoilers as well. But what's what's something that
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  you wanted to mention? Before we get into that, though,
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  I think it reminded me a lot of other movies.
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  And maybe that's the biggest crime I think of this movie is
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  that it is extremely derivative. And sort of, even if it's
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  derivative and it's doing similar things as other movies,
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  I think it's just not doing anything different, original,
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  memorable. I agree with that because when
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  you look at some of the movies that it kind of.
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  Remind you of, like, you know we're talking about stuff like
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  Atomic Blonde, Columbiana, Peppermint.
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  God, I forgot that. Do you remember Peppermint?
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  Peppermints, yes. With Jennifer Garner, yes.
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  You know, the villainous Lady Vengeance.
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  There was like quite a few movies where we have a female
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  protagonist who is, you know, an assassin, a trained killer.
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  Also, you can kind of draw some comparisons.
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  Obviously we said John Wick taking the man from nowhere.
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  Like there's a lot of movies that it's kind of drawing from
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  but not doing it. Like you said, not really
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  changing up the cliched manner of these type of movies and also
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  just doing a poor job. Of copying some of those cliches
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  because if you want to do a copy of something you're you got to
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  do it at least at the same level of the thing you're copying.
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  And I don't think this movie quite does it.
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  So I don't want to lambast this movie fully.
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  Like I think that there's some innovative stuff and watching
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  like some of the fight scenes are are cool.
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  I think there's a sense of a threat and.
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  You can feel like the griminess of like the villain and I think
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  it's very effective. That's really good for the
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  movie. You need someone that you just
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  hate and just cannot stand in a role like this and they did a
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  good job of portraying the villain like that.
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  So, so I want to say that before you know, we get into spoilers
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  and all that, I think if you're looking for a similar movie
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  where you know you got this really cool, interesting, very
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  silent and stoic fighter, you know, assassin what have you
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  going after, a larger cartel like system, something like
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  that, It's the man from nowhere. I adore that movie.
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  I don't have a single bad thing to say about it.
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  It is amazing. And if you like, Oh my God,
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  maybe like a combination of Taken and Leon the Professional.
• 24:52
  Ooh, OK, that's what the Man from Nowhere is.
• 24:55
  Yeah. There.
• 24:56
  OK. That's that's actually that's a
• 24:59
  good combination to have, yeah. That's a really good
• 25:02
  combination. I know, I know.
• 25:03
  And it's not that you can't have a stoic like main dude, because
• 25:07
  that is the man from nowhere. He's barely cracking any sort of
• 25:12
  emotion. Same with John Wick.
• 25:14
  John Wick is like a robot for a lot of the movie.
• 25:18
  Yeah, right. Like, he's not really OK.
• 25:21
  So I'm not, I don't think that necessarily her being this cold,
• 25:28
  unfeeling, like central lead is the issue because they do it in
• 25:33
  other movies. I just think maybe they just
• 25:35
  didn't build her right with the writing.
• 25:40
  Yeah. This is probably, and it's
• 25:43
  usually this goes against how I feel, but this is a movie that I
• 25:48
  think needed just a little bit more time in terms of like just
• 25:53
  establishing her character a little bit more the movie, you
• 25:58
  know what I like to, you know what I like is that there's
• 26:02
  usually a person in one of these movies that hypes up the
• 26:08
  central. Person like the protagonist,
• 26:11
  right? They haven't.
• 26:13
  Like the consider Rambo. The Colonel comes in and he's
• 26:16
  telling everyone in the town and the police force you don't know
• 26:18
  what you're doing. You need to back off.
• 26:21
  Now he's going, he's trained here, he's trained there.
• 26:25
  He grew up in the dirt. You don't understand.
• 26:26
  He's going to, he's going to mess y'all up and he's hyping up
• 26:30
  Rambo. And you don't really understand
• 26:33
  what Rambo's capable of until this person comes in and says
• 26:38
  you're gonna die if you keep coming at this person.
• 26:42
  Yeah, and I think that. And there wasn't a hype person.
• 26:45
  No, there wasn't in this movie at all.
• 26:48
  Even with something like taken, right?
• 26:51
  Once the authorities get involved and they start looking
• 26:55
  into the past of like, Liam Neeson's character, they do the
• 26:59
  whole profile of like, Oh my God, this guy is X.
• 27:02
  That's the same for the man from nowhere.
• 27:05
  They start looking into his background and they're like, the
• 27:07
  files are stealed, like, that's that sort of stuff that's builds
• 27:10
  him up, right. Plus John Wick, you have John
• 27:13
  Luguizamo. That's like, whose car did you
• 27:15
  steal? And it's like John and then he's
• 27:17
  like, Oh no. No, he slaps the kid, he talked
• 27:20
  on the phone with the dad and he says, well, your son stole John
• 27:25
  Mick's car and the the mafioso goes oh like all that is
• 27:31
  character building. Yeah, and like the way they
• 27:34
  would talk about him and like call him the Baba yaga.
• 27:37
  And just like all this crazy stuff, it builds A mythology,
• 27:41
  you know? Lore and mythology, that's what
• 27:45
  was missing from the character. Like if we would have known
• 27:49
  like. Oh like, oh shit.
• 27:51
  Don't mess with this person, you know.
• 27:54
  But like they kind of just toss it in in a in a brief
• 27:57
  conversation of like, oh I work security detail.
• 28:01
  You know it. That's not impressive.
• 28:05
  You know what is impressive is like if we had a character like
• 28:10
  are you hanging out with so and so do you know who she is?
• 28:16
  And like you know, like if they would have done something like
• 28:18
  that. Then you kind of get a sense of
• 28:21
  like, oh, that's all they had to do to put the hype person in
• 28:27
  there is have the CEO character who's like the opposite of the
• 28:32
  villain, right? The other hat coin, the other
• 28:34
  side of the coin be like who did you, who are you trying to kill?
• 28:40
  And like, it comes into view that it's this girl and he knows
• 28:44
  about her, or he's seen her in action or something like that.
• 28:47
  And he's like, you don't know what you've done.
• 28:48
  You could jeopardize everything, everything we've built, blah
• 28:52
  blah blah, like that's all you need.
• 28:53
  Yeah, exactly. You need someone who is afraid
• 28:57
  of the character before we know why you should be afraid.
• 29:01
  Yes, I think I've. I think I've caught something
• 29:05
  there. Plus, you just fix all the fight
• 29:07
  scenes because the fight scenes were very Nolan.
• 29:10
  Yes. Oh my God.
• 29:11
  Let's talk about this in spoilers for sure.
• 29:14
  Okay. So what we're gonna do now is
• 29:18
  we're gonna go ahead and we're gonna talk spoilers for
• 29:21
  Ballerina right after this. You wanna come in?
• 29:32
  All right, let's go ahead and let's talk spoilers for
• 29:34
  Ballerina. We left off on mentioning
• 29:38
  Christopher Nolan taking a stray here.
• 29:41
  Just randomly, but there, yes. So the big moment was the fight
• 29:47
  in the hotel, you know, between our hero and our villain.
• 29:53
  So Ox Joe versus pro Troy and bro, like the cameraman was.
• 30:01
  I hope they paid him well. With the amount of just like
• 30:03
  following all the different directions that every every
• 30:07
  single punch and kick had to have a camera movement, right?
• 30:12
  Yeah, it was too much because, like you, it was not cohesive
• 30:16
  enough to be able to be like, oh, what, what the hell are they
• 30:20
  doing right now? It was disorienting.
• 30:23
  Like I was having a hard time. Like did that punch lent I?
• 30:26
  And by the time like I thought that thought of, did that punch
• 30:29
  land? You know, they're doing
• 30:30
  something else. And I'm just like, wait, what
• 30:33
  happened there? And like, he was having a hard
• 30:34
  time with it. I know.
• 30:35
  But the one thing that I liked about that fight is how it
• 30:38
  started. Because he's like, groping her.
• 30:41
  She's supposedly drugged and she's pulling a knife out from
• 30:46
  under the pillow and they don't show, like what happens when she
• 30:50
  lunges forward. Right with the knife media
• 30:54
  thing. And they show his face in the
• 30:56
  mask because he's wearing a BDSM mask and he's got crazy eyes.
• 31:01
  Oh my God. And you see some blood fall on
• 31:03
  the bed, on the white sheets of the bed and you're like, oh, did
• 31:07
  she get him? They pan over.
• 31:09
  It's his hand. He caught the knife, which is
• 31:13
  and you're like, oh shit yeah. Yeah, see?
• 31:16
  Like, that's a cool. That was a good start.
• 31:19
  That's a good start to it. Then you know that entire fight,
• 31:24
  like, there's a couple of moments that I was like, oh,
• 31:26
  that looks cool. But then at the same time
• 31:28
  there's like too much that is just disoriented.
• 31:31
  Then we get like, added characters come in like where we
• 31:34
  get the guy with shotgun, like the with the weird haircut, like
• 31:39
  what was I thought it was like a worthy bro.
• 31:44
  Toward the explorer bro. Seriously, can you say shotgun?
• 31:49
  But like, he comes in and starts shooting up the bed and, you
• 31:54
  know, there's some cool moments where he's able to, she's able
• 31:57
  to, you know, take him out and then OK, so he's with the
• 32:02
  chainsaw. Yeah, the guy with the chainsaw,
• 32:04
  he comes, he starts running and there's a moment where the
• 32:09
  camera is like. Like from the outside looking in
• 32:13
  as they're running towards each other in the hallway, it kind of
• 32:16
  reminded me a little bit of like something that you kind of would
• 32:20
  see like in Scott Pilgrim when they do like a surreal look at
• 32:23
  at like the, you know, whatever is happening.
• 32:27
  And then it's like completely cut short with the door opening,
• 32:32
  the door open. Yeah.
• 32:33
  And then insert our high school student who is a victim of
• 32:38
  trafficking and who is like, basically stuck as a as a sex
• 32:43
  slave, right. Hotel, right?
• 32:45
  Which this is something that we should talk about real quick.
• 32:49
  Is that the the big thing about this movie is that the villain
• 32:53
  is part of this cartel that, you know, they deal in drugs, but
• 32:58
  they also deal in sex trafficking and Pro Choi in
• 33:03
  particular. He's basically like using the
• 33:07
  girls for his own fetishes and his own thing that he's doing.
• 33:13
  And not only that, he's into BDSM, he's into whips chains.
• 33:20
  They excite him. As Rihanna would say.
• 33:22
  I was waiting for it, not the Rihanna reference.
• 33:27
  But like you, were you you mentioned this earlier.
• 33:31
  In just the conversation when she opens the drawer?
• 33:35
  No, because when he. So I wanna make it clear that if
• 33:39
  you're into BDS, I'm fine. That's your thing again.
• 33:43
  But Rihanna gave you permission. So Rihanna gave you permission.
• 33:48
  So she's investigating in his house when he's out of the house
• 33:53
  and she opens this big armoire and it's full of BDSM toys with
• 34:00
  collars and all this stuff. And you're like, OK, like me, I
• 34:04
  think us as Westerners, we're like, all right, so he's into
• 34:09
  BDSM. Right.
• 34:10
  Like, he's so happy to agree. I don't want to speak for an
• 34:13
  entire country, but perhaps that moment is really shocking for
• 34:18
  Korean audience. It could be.
• 34:21
  I don't know. I'm just talking out loud.
• 34:25
  It was for me. It was when she opened the
• 34:28
  drawer and it was an organized, labeled row upon row of USB
• 34:37
  drives that I was like. It's like the air got sucked out
• 34:44
  of the room. Yes, yes, so.
• 34:48
  So the part that he was recording these women, drugging
• 34:52
  these women, you had to know at that point that it was without
• 34:55
  their consent that it was, you know, he was sexually assaulting
• 34:59
  these women. How often do you run in a movie?
• 35:03
  Do you see when somebody has a flash drive that it's a good
• 35:07
  thing, right? Right.
• 35:10
  It's always this like, terrible thing.
• 35:12
  Like what's on the flash drive, right?
• 35:14
  Right. It could be like the secrets
• 35:17
  that a government doesn't want to get out.
• 35:19
  There's never been a good USB drive.
• 35:22
  I don't think so. I do not think so.
• 35:25
  Anyway, so so anyway, this, his crime of drugging these women
• 35:32
  and videotaping them reminds me of a of a it was either a serial
• 35:38
  rapist or a serial killer, and it might be a combination of two
• 35:42
  different criminals that I'm thinking of.
• 35:45
  One had taken video like it was videotapes.
• 35:50
  At that point when I watched this documentary, they were
• 35:53
  saying how all of the police force had to sit there and watch
• 35:57
  these videos and try and identify the victims.
• 36:00
  And nobody wanted to come forward because then it was very
• 36:05
  similar to how they were enticing or coercing these young
• 36:12
  women into being sex slaves. It's like, oh, well then we'll
• 36:16
  show all of this footage that we have of you to your friends and
• 36:21
  family and it's going to ruin your life, which is so, yeah, so
• 36:27
  that was the impotent that was the big hang up in the case.
• 36:32
  In the real life, case was no, but no victims wanted to come
• 36:37
  forward because it would ruin their life.
• 36:39
  They had kids. They had a whole family.
• 36:41
  They had no recollection that this happened to them because
• 36:44
  they were drugged at the time. So it was very jarring and
• 36:48
  shocking and traumatic for them. And they didn't want to press
• 36:51
  charges because then their name would be out there.
• 36:54
  And I don't know if you had ever heard of this type of, you know,
• 37:00
  exploitation. Not like I think the only thing
• 37:04
  that comes anywhere close to something like that here in the
• 37:08
  United States that I've heard is just usually what we deem as
• 37:14
  revenge porn. Which is kind of a guy will
• 37:19
  release like videos and pictures of you know stuff that was sent
• 37:24
  to him by a by a girl. And then you know, as an act of
• 37:28
  malice, as an act of revenge for whatever stupid reason he deems
• 37:36
  that it's yeah, I should do this.
• 37:39
  That's the only comparison that I have.
• 37:41
  And and that's super embarrassing for.
• 37:44
  The girl in that situation, because, you know, those weren't
• 37:49
  meant for everyone. That was meant for the person
• 37:52
  she sent them to. But in the case that we're
• 37:55
  talking about in the movie and in the case of real life
• 37:57
  circumstances, this is something that was against their will, you
• 38:04
  know? But even in that case, it's
• 38:06
  still, you know, shocking and traumatic to have that video go.
• 38:13
  Public for everyone to see, you know, Right.
• 38:17
  So that's why that high school student was like, that's why I'm
• 38:20
  here, because otherwise they would send this video out.
• 38:24
  Like it doesn't matter that she's a victim.
• 38:29
  It doesn't matter. Like it was like, you know, this
• 38:32
  victim blaming, this part of victim blaming that is very
• 38:37
  evident throughout this movie and throughout real life.
• 38:41
  Like in in real life this happens too.
• 38:43
  And I wish that I knew the name of the serial killer or the name
• 38:47
  of the documentary. I feel like it was the, I feel
• 38:51
  like it was the Huasong serial murders that I watched the
• 38:54
  documentary on. And the serial killer's name is
• 38:57
  Eton J, and he was in his 20s when he was committing those
• 39:01
  murders. Yeah, but don't quote me on
• 39:06
  that. It might sounds terrible to say,
• 39:08
  but it might have been another. Might have been another serial
• 39:11
  rapist killer, yeah. So I was wondering if you had
• 39:15
  seen that before because it felt so familiar to me.
• 39:18
  Not specifically that interesting.
• 39:21
  I've definitely heard of stories of like, you know, sex
• 39:24
  trafficking rings and and stuff like that, but I've never heard
• 39:28
  details of that where they're kind of.
• 39:33
  Blackmailing the victim, right, Right.
• 39:36
  They were blackmailing the girls into staying in this world, in
• 39:41
  this life, which is really sad. I don't know if they maybe try
• 39:47
  to do too much in the movie like they had.
• 39:51
  So they had this guy who was serial.
• 39:57
  What do you even say? It's it was a sexual assault.
• 40:00
  Slash taking video of them. Yeah, drugging them.
• 40:04
  I mean, what is that like 4 different, three or four
• 40:07
  different crimes? And he had so many of them.
• 40:12
  And then on top of that, he was in charge of the human
• 40:17
  trafficking. Right.
• 40:19
  Or a portion. Of the human trafficking for
• 40:21
  this gang. Which crazy stuff when they when
• 40:26
  they introduced that in the movie?
• 40:28
  I was like, oh, this is like something, some, this is more
• 40:34
  and I thought that it would lead to something bigger towards the
• 40:38
  end, which. So I I want to take this as a
• 40:42
  transition into how the movie establishes the villains, but I
• 40:49
  don't think it does it very well.
• 40:51
  So pro Troy is not the big bad. No, the big Bad is like the
• 40:57
  cartel, the mafia of this group led by Joe, CEO Joe.
• 41:05
  And he, you know, he has like this menacing, he's very cold,
• 41:11
  businesslike type of leader, you know, where it's like, you know,
• 41:16
  I'm going to take over that for you.
• 41:18
  And he's like, what? What do you mean?
• 41:19
  And he's like, like, he laughs stuff off because you think it's
• 41:25
  unclear what he was doing. Like Pro, Troy was doing drug
• 41:31
  business on the side outside of the regulation of the gang.
• 41:36
  Right, exactly. Then what was the drug he was
• 41:39
  producing with Myung Sheik, the pharmacist?
• 41:43
  Was that those little fish shaped?
• 41:45
  Ones that's exactly what it was because they they show inside
• 41:49
  the fish shape. They never say.
• 41:52
  They never say what it is. OK, OK.
• 41:53
  I thought I had missed it. So I think it was like a like a
• 41:59
  reefer. Like, you know what I'm saying?
• 42:00
  Like. Right, because the best
• 42:03
  inclination, right, the best inclination that you get is
• 42:07
  towards the end when she walks into the lab where they're
• 42:11
  growing the stuff and the plants there.
• 42:16
  Some of them look like weed, but.
• 42:19
  It could have been a little bit more.
• 42:21
  It could have been something along the lines of some type of
• 42:24
  hallucinogetic, but I think it's more along the lines what you're
• 42:29
  saying, which is some type of date rape because a lot of the,
• 42:35
  you know, just tying the two together you you have these
• 42:39
  drugs because with the sex trafficking that showed up for
• 42:43
  the drug drop on the bridge. Yeah, they they did not look.
• 42:48
  They just look like, yeah, due to, like, just trying to get
• 42:52
  some drugs. Like one guy was on a bicycle.
• 42:55
  Yeah. So no, they don't look like they
• 42:57
  showed up in a nice like vehicle or anything.
• 43:02
  They look like, I don't know. And then I think he threw out
• 43:07
  one of the plastic fishes after he had used it right on her,
• 43:12
  presumably her drink when all two goes to the the hotel with
• 43:16
  him. Yes.
• 43:18
  So yeah, so then I believe that it is a date rape type of drug,
• 43:23
  which what the hell does that say?
• 43:26
  That there he's producing a date rape drug in the shape of like a
• 43:29
  little plastic fish and advertising it as sushi.
• 43:36
  Right. Yeah.
• 43:38
  Like because? He asked.
• 43:40
  She asked, I think in the DMS and insta DMS.
• 43:44
  He asked her how many soy sauce packets do you want indicating
• 43:49
  like how many what? What's your order?
• 43:51
  Right, exactly. And she just says, oh, I just
• 43:54
  want one soy sauce packet And he like, leaves the chat.
• 43:57
  He leaves the chat. He's like something about the
• 44:00
  one soy one date rape fish packet that was like, OK, this
• 44:06
  is, this is not a real yeah. Well, what triggered me to?
• 44:11
  That being more like a code word was when you go to the page and
• 44:17
  he's like, I'm doing sushi orders, I only take Bitcoin.
• 44:21
  I was like, Oh yeah, there's some shitty shit here.
• 44:25
  Like anybody who's like, I only take Bitcoin.
• 44:28
  Red flag. The red flag.
• 44:30
  Yeah, red flag. OK.
• 44:33
  So I want to talk about the gun dealers that we meet in this
• 44:40
  room before we do. Oh no, you know, let's talk
• 44:43
  about the gun dealers and then we'll circle back.
• 44:45
  Let's circle back on the romance.
• 44:47
  OK. Yeah, we definitely have to.
• 44:49
  So when it comes to the gun dealers, I found it to be
• 44:55
  somewhat superfluous the way they introduced these
• 45:01
  characters. A bit kooky, like it was kind of
• 45:05
  fun. I.
• 45:06
  Liked it? It's a little fun, but I will
• 45:09
  say that. It is an easy way to explain,
• 45:13
  like checkoffs, guns and flamethrowers.
• 45:17
  Yes, the yes. Yes.
• 45:19
  And I was just like, oh, OK, so we're gonna get a flamethrower
• 45:22
  in the end somewhere. I died laughing when this little
• 45:27
  grandma, Kim Yongk, they had her with a flamethrower.
• 45:31
  Yes, she's like this was meant to kill Wasps, Wasps.
• 45:34
  And I'm like what is going? I have still had so many
• 45:37
  questions. And then she just fires the
• 45:40
  flamethrower and it's going like 100 feet farther than they are.
• 45:46
  I was dying. Apart I couldn't help but think
• 45:49
  of the line from Once Upon a time in Hollywood when Leo's
• 45:55
  testing it and he's like anything we can do about this
• 45:58
  heat and the guy's like it's a flamethrower.
• 46:01
  But that is, is it true that that was an improv?
• 46:05
  Like, not improv. But that was him, his character
• 46:08
  talk like Leo DiCaprio asking the person what can we do about
• 46:13
  this heat? Cuz it's so hot.
• 46:15
  Yeah, apparently that was anything we could do about this
• 46:19
  heat. It's a flame.
• 46:20
  Just talking in character. Oh my God, I love it.
• 46:24
  It's a flamethrower, OK? But yeah, I think it's a clever
• 46:27
  way. It's it brings some levity to a
• 46:31
  dark topic that was happening in the movie in terms of everything
• 46:34
  going on. So it was nice.
• 46:35
  Do you know why it's so kooky? I think.
• 46:38
  Why do you think? Well, you know that guns are
• 46:41
  illegal in Korea. OK, you didn't.
• 46:45
  I didn't quite know that no guns are.
• 46:48
  That's why everybody got knives. Oh, that's why does that make a
• 46:55
  lot of sense? Pulling out knives?
• 46:58
  Yeah, got it. Got it.
• 47:00
  Got it. Even the gangsters are pulling
• 47:02
  out knives. Knives, because this is
• 47:05
  ordinately difficult to get a hold of guns in Korea.
• 47:08
  OK, OK. So which is the fact that these
• 47:10
  people have like these old guns and everything, right?
• 47:14
  OK. It's clicking.
• 47:16
  It clicks, it clicks. OK got it right.
• 47:19
  That's why I didn't find it that like out outlet.
• 47:22
  I mean, it was outlandish, but I didn't find it out like outside
• 47:27
  the bounds of this really can't happen in the story about this
• 47:32
  revenge that's been about that's about to happen, so.
• 47:36
  Got it. OK, let's go ahead and circle
• 47:39
  back to what we wanted to mention because we I mentioned
• 47:42
  this earlier. Yeah, I agree that the girl
• 47:46
  Mans. I thought they were lovers.
• 47:48
  Or at least Oktu thought that they could be more.
• 47:53
  That she maybe loved her. Loved me Me the ballerina.
• 47:59
  The movie kind of dancing with it.
• 48:02
  Dancing with it, yeah. Yeah, because maybe it's just
• 48:06
  the way it's viewed in Korea. I don't know if samesex
• 48:11
  relationships are something that is as prevalent as it is in the
• 48:16
  United States. I would say no.
• 48:19
  Probably not So probably not showcasing that in a movie, you
• 48:24
  know, maybe it's not their priority, but they they
• 48:31
  definitely hint at it. The color scheming whenever
• 48:33
  they're together of you know, dancing between blue and red,
• 48:39
  making it purple. Binary lighting.
• 48:41
  The the Yeah, exactly. The binary lighting.
• 48:44
  Like it's. It's really obvious that Oak Jew
• 48:49
  has an emotional and somewhat romantic attachment to the
• 48:56
  ballerina. Yeah, but then you know, the
• 48:59
  movie knows when to pull back on.
• 49:01
  Like, we're not going to show you anything.
• 49:03
  You know, we're not going to confirm or deny.
• 49:06
  Exactly. We're not even going to show
• 49:08
  them, like, really hug that much.
• 49:10
  Like they're going to get close in a photo and you know, yeah.
• 49:16
  That that's as close as we'll get.
• 49:18
  Yeah. Photo Booth stuff.
• 49:19
  Like Photo Booth. When you think Photo Booth in a
• 49:22
  movie, that is like romantic stuff happening between 2
• 49:26
  characters usually. Yeah.
• 49:28
  Or the beginnings of a romance. So the fact that these two
• 49:31
  characters did that, and you're telling me, oh, you know what it
• 49:37
  what it is, it's those women who later in life.
• 49:43
  They're constantly traveling with their best friend.
• 49:47
  I put that best friend in quotations.
• 49:49
  Get out. I was like, yeah, this is my
• 49:51
  best friend Nora. We've been, we've been friends
• 49:53
  for 10 years and we go everywhere together and it's
• 49:56
  like HM, stop with the means. Yeah, you guys are very close
• 50:03
  now and friendly. HM.
• 50:06
  OK, so I fully believe that I saw a meet.
• 50:10
  Cute. For sure 100%.
• 50:13
  Yes, the bakery when you get the cake.
• 50:15
  Yeah, the cake. Choc That's a be.
• 50:16
  Cute. That's a be.
• 50:18
  Cute. That is easily something that
• 50:20
  you would see in a romantic comedy.
• 50:23
  She goes in for a cake and the ballerina recognizes her.
• 50:28
  She's like, we went to middle school together, whatever,
• 50:31
  whatever class, and is excited to see her.
• 50:35
  And she's like, oh, like kind of taken aback.
• 50:37
  They eat. Afterwards, they go out.
• 50:40
  They go celebrating your birthday.
• 50:42
  Celebrating the birthday. They go to like art exhibits
• 50:45
  together. They go to the beach together,
• 50:50
  they go swimming together, You know, like, yo, you're telling
• 50:57
  me they're not a couple? Like, come on, come on.
• 50:59
  Best friends, my ass. Anyway, so the movie dances with
• 51:05
  it. I think I would have enjoyed the
• 51:07
  movie more if they had just said, oh, they were lovers.
• 51:10
  Yeah, I've been like, yes, yes. She's avenging the loss of her
• 51:15
  love, yeah. Like that, but then they don't
• 51:18
  make it make sense of why. How long were they out of touch?
• 51:24
  What the hell was Ochu doing? Why did she quit her job?
• 51:28
  Yeah, like they don't go like John Wick is the same way.
• 51:31
  Like, what is he doing day in and day out?
• 51:33
  Nothing. No, but.
• 51:36
  Because he quit his job, right? He quit his job.
• 51:38
  He retired like you understand why he did it as well.
• 51:42
  Like he found the love. By the time you get to the end
• 51:44
  of the movie, you understand like what his job was.
• 51:47
  But in this movie, you still don't fully comprehend what was
• 51:51
  she doing. What was she doing?
• 51:52
  How did she She was guarding VIP's.
• 51:55
  OK, Kevin Costner, tell me more. Yeah, like, I want to know more
• 51:58
  about the world that you were in.
• 52:01
  So it makes sense that you. Are this amazing killer in the
• 52:05
  world that we're watching but we don't get enough.
• 52:08
  It's I don't understand how, because here's the Also the rub
• 52:12
  for me is even if they find they don't admit that they're that
• 52:16
  they're a lesbian couple, Fine, but then how the hell does the
• 52:20
  ballerina know that Okhju can exact revenge for her on her
• 52:25
  behalf? How does she know?
• 52:27
  Does she know that she had all these skills?
• 52:29
  Has she ever seen her in action? Does Oak, do you ever open up
• 52:31
  and tell her about what she did as a bodyguard?
• 52:35
  I mean, maybe I think I was a bodyguard, but you don't see
• 52:40
  that. I don't get it, you know.
• 52:42
  This movie can be summarized with this sentence.
• 52:47
  We didn't get enough. And you you can say that about
• 52:52
  plot points. You could say that about.
• 52:54
  The action scenes, you could say that about quite a few things.
• 52:59
  Yeah, we did not get enough. And it's a shame because I think
• 53:04
  the movie has the potential to be like this, like cult classic
• 53:08
  following that you, you know, Pete, when people start saying,
• 53:13
  oh, have you seen this Korean movie?
• 53:16
  Like, it could be in that sentence.
• 53:17
  But, and here's my thing, too, is that when I saw the trailer,
• 53:20
  I was like, oh, this is that movie that they're doing in the
• 53:25
  John Wick franchise. I thought it was going to be
• 53:27
  that spin off the ballerina. Right.
• 53:31
  That was also confusion there. Yes, because they titled it
• 53:35
  after something we know is coming.
• 53:38
  You know, a movie that's coming down the line.
• 53:41
  A spin off for those who don't know.
• 53:42
  Yeah, John Wick 4 movies in the franchise, but it's getting a
• 53:46
  spin off called the Ballerina and it stars Anna the Adamus as
• 53:51
  the ballerina. And if you saw John Wick 3
• 53:54
  Parabellum, there is a scene where there's a ballerina in the
• 53:58
  I think. It was the theater in New York.
• 54:01
  It was like a Russian ballet. Yeah.
• 54:03
  Yeah, it was still in New York. OK.
• 54:04
  I thought he was in Belarus. Not yet.
• 54:08
  Not yet. At that moment.
• 54:09
  So anyway, that ballerina is the subject of the spinoff anyway.
• 54:14
  Right, So Long story short, I thought this movie was related
• 54:17
  to the John Wick franchise, and it's not.
• 54:21
  And so then when we found out that it's not, we thought, oh,
• 54:25
  they beat him to the punch by doing something similar and
• 54:29
  calling it ballerina, right? But like the main character is
• 54:35
  not the ballerina I wished. I could wish that she was the
• 54:39
  ballerina. And that's how they had their
• 54:41
  they started their lesbian romance was that they were both
• 54:43
  ballerinas in the same company. Like I would have been, you
• 54:46
  know, like Black Swan type shit. Yeah, some Black Swan stuff.
• 54:49
  Although I did get some like, you know, like hints of Black
• 54:52
  Swan, you know, early on, like the way the camera was moving
• 54:58
  around this, that central ballerina character.
• 55:01
  Like it it was like kind of intense.
• 55:03
  And so, like, you know, in my head I was like, huh, Black
• 55:06
  Swan, you know, So OK, that is perfect.
• 55:11
  I don't. I don't know if I have anything
• 55:17
  else. Do you have?
• 55:18
  Oh my God, we forgot to rate this out of five soldier
• 55:21
  bottles. Yes, yes, we did.
• 55:23
  This will be the last thing we do and then we'll get out of
• 55:25
  here. OK, So what did you rate it out
• 55:28
  of five Soldier bottles? I would have rated it A/C like
• 55:32
  on a grade level because we've been doing grade levels on
• 55:35
  Always A Critic on Always A Critic podcast.
• 55:37
  But like for soldier bottles, I guess 2 1/2. 2, 1/2 that would
• 55:42
  put it maybe three if I was, you know.
• 55:45
  Being he's so pretty, like it's so pretty to look at, right?
• 55:49
  Gotcha. I don't know.
• 55:50
  And the soundtrack was really good.
• 55:52
  Yeah, soundtrack was pretty good as well, I think.
• 55:55
  I'm doing it 1 1/2 Get. Get out.
• 55:58
  Yeah, get. Half.
• 56:00
  I have too many complaints about the movie, is the problem.
• 56:05
  Like, I saw the potential. That's why.
• 56:07
  Like I I had the first bottle and I was like, OK, we're
• 56:10
  rolling. And then, you know, because I
• 56:13
  like the intro sequence too. I was really excited after the
• 56:16
  intro sequence, which we didn't talk about the convenience store
• 56:20
  fight. Yes, great opening sequence for
• 56:23
  our character. I loved it.
• 56:26
  And the movie kind of just like slows down for some reason.
• 56:30
  Yeah, I don't know why. An hour and a half and some for
• 56:34
  some reason you slow down. You know, I have to say that I
• 56:38
  list. For some reason you slow down.
• 56:40
  I liked that the ballerina was at the end of the movie because
• 56:45
  they had that flashback scene where she was like, I want to be
• 56:48
  reborn as a fish after I die and whatever.
• 56:52
  And then at the end you see the ballerina under the.
• 56:54
  Water under the water in the sea.
• 56:58
  Very, very. I love that visual.
• 57:00
  Like, it's very poetic. And like, I don't know, it
• 57:04
  worked. That worked.
• 57:05
  So that is our review. Yeah, ballerina.
• 57:11
  We had too much fun with this. It's supposed to be spooky
• 57:13
  season and we're like laughing our way through this.
• 57:16
  Naked movie. Now something that is spooky is
• 57:22
  human trafficking. Totally.
• 57:24
  Oh my God. Absolutely.
• 57:26
  But this movie? Not so much.
• 57:28
  Not so much. Well, once they had like the CEO
• 57:31
  character with this severe middle part.
• 57:37
  Oh yeah, like his hair and it's like.
• 57:41
  Slicked back I was. I was like, that's a choice
• 57:44
  that. Is a choice for your hairstyle.
• 57:48
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• 57:52
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