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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Friday, December fifteenth. I'm your host,
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Cotton Bowl game against Missouri in fourteen days, Yes,
- 0:08just two weeks, That doesn't seem possible. The game against Michigan in
- 0:11three hundred and fifty one days. When the Black guys play that Cotton Bowl
- 0:15game in two weeks, they are likely very likely going to have Devin Brown
- 0:18as a starter for them at quarterback. First time start for Devin Brown in
- 0:23his career. And so when I went back to look at his stats for
- 0:29his career so far, I thought, Hey, this would be a pretty
- 0:34interesting show to do with Tony Gurderman. Okay, that's not what happened.
- 0:37Tony Gerderman had sent me an idea for a show, and I said,
- 0:41I'm going to steal it and take credit for it. And here we are,
- 0:43Tony Devin Brown's career stats. Will he go over or under them in
- 0:49the Cotton Bowl game? Because I think Devin Brown has been around a while.
- 0:53You've heard a lot of talk about Devin Brown and then you look at
- 0:56his career stats and it's like, oh, he really has not played a
- 0:59whole heck of a lot Yeah, he is going to get more action than
- 1:03he's ever gotten as first start, as he said, excited for a top
- 1:07ten matchup in the Cotton Bowl, if he might be the most excited guy
- 1:11to be playing in the game. So it's good that your quarterback is that
- 1:15guy, and we're going to get the first really really sustained look where he's
- 1:19not the change of pace quarterback, he is the pace and I'm interested to
- 1:23see what kind of pace he sets. All right, So let's run through
- 1:26his career stats right now, just for folks who maybe don't have them right
- 1:30in front of them, and why would you Twelve completions, twenty two attempts,
- 1:34fifty four percent completion percentage, one hundred and ninety seven yards nine yards
- 1:40per attempt, and two touchdowns, one interception, long pass of fifty eight
- 1:46yards, sacked three times. And I guess, Tony, the first thing
- 1:49that jumps out to me on those on that list of stats is everyone remembers
- 1:55probably the long bomb that he threw to Brandon Innis in the Purdue game.
- 1:59Fifty eight yard touchdown Brandon and this is only catch of his career so far,
- 2:02longest pass of Devon Brown's career that is thirty percent of his career yards
- 2:07on that one pass. That was there were a bunch of these numbers that
- 2:12I looked at. I went, that can't be right. That seems way
- 2:14too low. But didn't really didn't play last year, didn't run any passes
- 2:17last year, and then you know, played some in the early going,
- 2:22and then didn't play a whole heck of a lot, and then got hurt
- 2:24and missed a bunch of weeks and it just and then you know, went
- 2:28right when you thought he was coming back, he reaggravated the ankle injury.
- 2:30I think that was before the Michigan State game, you know, another game
- 2:34where he would have played a lot. It's just it's it feels like we've
- 2:38been talking about Devin Brown for so long and you haven't really seen anything out
- 2:43of him, good, bad, or indifferent for the most part. So
- 2:46all right, We're going to start with a very easy one tony twelve career
- 2:50completions for Devin Brown over or under twelve completions for Devin Brown in the Cotton
- 2:57Bowl. I'm going to go over that one time. I feel pretty good
- 3:00about that, just because I think you'd have to go back a long time
- 3:02to find Maybe you'd have to go back a while to find the last time
- 3:06on Ohio State quarterback completed fewer than twelve passes or completed fewer than thirteen passes
- 3:12in a game. And I think there's a chance that he's not the only
- 3:15quarterback that plays for Ohio State in this game, which will factor into these
- 3:19numbers as well. But the condition should be okay. I don't think it'll
- 3:23get too windy there in Jerry world, So I don't think you have to
- 3:25worry about a Northwestern situation. No, no hurricane force wins or anything like
- 3:30that. You know, you close up the ceiling, you close up the
- 3:32windows, and you should be okay. So I feel like twelve over twelve
- 3:38might be I think that might be the safest bet in any of these numbers
- 3:43today. Yeah, I think you're probably right there. He you know,
- 3:49if he starts and if he plays more than a half, I would certainly
- 3:52expect him to complete at least twelve passes. The fewest passes completed by Kyle
- 3:58McCord this season as a starter for Higher State was fourteen. That was against
- 4:01Youngstown State, and that was, of course a game where Devin Brown played
- 4:05a bunch, So Devin Brown was the you know, the only the only
- 4:08reason Kal McCord only completed fourteen passes against Youngstown State was that Devin Brown was
- 4:13playing a bunch of that game. So so there's there's the first one.
- 4:15Yes, I agree with you. There, that's a pretty easy over.
- 4:19Twenty two attempts. So I guess let's just make these twenty two and a
- 4:23half, twelve and a half. All that twenty two and a half attempts.
- 4:27This is another one where the only time in the high state quarterback did
- 4:30not go over twenty two and a half attempts was again in that Youngstown State
- 4:34game, calm accord was fourteen for twenty he complete attempts to only twenty three
- 4:39passes the following week against Western Kentucky. This to me feels like another probably
- 4:44relatively easy over. Yeah, I'm thinking over as well, and I'm just
- 4:47like looking back at c J. Stroud his lowest number of attempts. He
- 4:54had twenty two against Rutgers in twenty twenty two and twenty two against minnesot and
- 5:00his season debut in twenty twenty one. So it is possible that you only
- 5:03have twenty two but if he's only if he's only throwing the ball twenty two
- 5:11times in this one, that tells me they're running the ball pretty good.
- 5:14And I don't know that you necessarily need to. Let's focus on the run
- 5:17in this game. Let's make sure we established the run. I think you
- 5:20want to see what you've got in Devin Brown, so you let him throw
- 5:23it around and it may be it may end up being like a seventeen for
- 5:28forty nine, but you're going to find out if he can throw the ball
- 5:30or not. I'm not expecting seventeen for forty nine, but I am expecting
- 5:33over twenty two. Yeah, I think, you know, unless they really
- 5:39are splitting the reps fifty to fifty with him and Lincoln Keenhols, and I'm
- 5:42not expecting that. I would assume you're going to get over twenty two and
- 5:46a half pass attemps. Comccord had, as I said, only only one
- 5:50game where he did not hit that mark. Then, in terms of total
- 5:54yardage passing Devin Brown one hundred and ninety seven yards on the season, there
- 5:58was only one game where Kyle McCord did not hit that number this season,
- 6:00and that was the game at Rutgers for one hundred and eighty nine yards in
- 6:03that one. I guess this is this is the first one to me where
- 6:08you could you know, you could see him not getting to one ninety seven.
- 6:12Yeah, And if there's no Marvin Harrison, I think maybe that impacts
- 6:16some things as well. So I feel less confident about this, but also
- 6:25only throw it for one hundred ninety seven yards. And maybe if we go
- 6:27and look to see how often, what does that what does that Missouri pass
- 6:30defense look like in terms of how easy how many yards are they giving up
- 6:35routinely against I'd say moderate pass offenses. You look over what they've done in
- 6:45the past, and you know they haven't given up. They've given up one
- 6:47three hundred yard game this year, so I think that's pretty good overall.
- 6:54But I mean Florida three for two hundred and thirty nine yards, So I
- 6:58mean, if Florida could throw for two hundred yards on you'd think Devin Brown
- 7:00could. But to me, this also comes down to choice, and I
- 7:04think they will choose to do so, Tom, I'm wondering, what are
- 7:10the chances, what odds would you give me that Devin Brown would be all
- 7:15three of these numbers in the first half. In the first half, Oh,
- 7:18boy, first half would be plus four hundred something. You know,
- 7:23where are we? Yeah, I mean that that's a lot for the first
- 7:27half. So I mean he'd have to go thirteen for twenty three for one
- 7:30hundred and ninety eight yards in the first half. Yeah, like a plus
- 7:36four hundred is probably not a bad guess. I'm just looking at the the
- 7:41game by game stats for Missouri. The only three teams failed to hit one
- 7:46hundred and ninety seven yards passing against Missouri this year. It was South Dakota,
- 7:49Kentucky, and Arkansas. But you know, as you said, only
- 7:54Memphis went over three hundred or three hundred yards against Missouri. So yeah,
- 8:00boy, one hundred and ninety seven yards in the first half, that's that's
- 8:03pretty close to what most teams did. I might even say plus five hundred
- 8:11there, because I mean, you gotta remember you're basically functionally doubling those numbers
- 8:15to get to your game total, and that just that seems very, very
- 8:18very high. But we also know Ryan Day likes to be aggressive out of
- 8:22the gate. If this is not c J. Stroud, but if this
- 8:26is c J. Stroud, you'd be like, well, I mean not
- 8:28quite even money, but it wouldn't shock me if they were. I think
- 8:33that the toughest part there is are you going to throw the ball twenty three
- 8:35times? Because if you've got two hundred yards passing, you probably did it
- 8:37in like fourteen attempts or sixteen attempts something like that. Yeah, I think
- 8:43that would be pretty surprising to get to that number and a half because I
- 8:46mean c J. Stroud like, I mean, what did happened the Rose
- 8:50Bowl? Five hundred something yards or four hundred and something yards in the Rose
- 8:54Bowl and six touchdowns? That was you know, similarly perfect condition, but
- 9:00also a Utah team playing a running back at defensive back and you know,
- 9:05and so yeah, I think the more the longer we talk about this,
- 9:09the less I think he's going to do it. In a half. I
- 9:11do think he's going to probably hit all three of those numbers for you know,
- 9:16for the game. If you're going to parlay all three of those going
- 9:18over, I think that's probably pretty close to even money that he's going to
- 9:22go over all three of those. Next up, Tony is touchdowns two touchdowns
- 9:28passing on the year for Kyle for Devin Brown two, So two and a
- 9:33half this is this is the first one that I'm kind of going all right
- 9:39now, this is I think a very very interesting number. Three touchdowns or
- 9:43more, or two touchdowns or fewer. I think this is. If you
- 9:48said it at two and a half, I'm going under. You said it
- 9:52at one and a half, I'm going over. And since we're we're going
- 9:56a half on all of these, I would say under because you obviously don't
- 10:03have the free space of Marvin Harrison. Perhaps maybe they will, and if
- 10:07they do, then I'm gonna, you know, I'll take take the over
- 10:09on everything. But it's it's difficult to expect a guy to throw for three
- 10:16touchdowns in a game that is just playing starting his first career game kind of
- 10:22accord this year, how many three touchdown games did he have? I look
- 10:26real quick, he had one, two, three, four or five.
- 10:31And you know, I don't know how many of those came against quality top
- 10:35ten opponents, none of them, in fact. So it's much more difficult
- 10:41to do it against a fighting foe than it is just a random Joe.
- 10:46So I will say under. But also I think they're gonna want to throw
- 10:52it around and just see what happens. I think one thing that might lend
- 10:56me to or lead me to pick the under there is where did we see
- 11:01Devin Brown When Devin Brown was playing after the first couple of games of the
- 11:05season, he was coming in in the goal line to run the football.
- 11:09So you know that that either is you know number one. I think that
- 11:13makes it more likely that they're going to try to run the ball more in
- 11:16the goal line. But of course, the flip side of that is what
- 11:18do you do during the course of the season. You show something and then
- 11:20you build off of it. And I don't think you know, he threw
- 11:24one pass down at the goal line at one point against Purdue and it was
- 11:28incomplete, but you know, maybe you've got a maybe you've got a throw
- 11:31off of the run that you've been setting up. So you know he will
- 11:37either he's going to play in the goal line. We are pretty sure of
- 11:39that. And then the question is are they going to run like they have
- 11:41or are they going to throw like they've seemingly been setting up. So I
- 11:46think, you know, he might vulture one of his own passing touchdowns with
- 11:48a rushing touchdown, So that that's one more thing that I think would lead
- 11:54me to the under there, but we'll see interceptions through one pick all season
- 12:00and so over under one and a half interceptions, Donty, you don't ever
- 12:05want to be that guy that picks. I think you're gonna throw two interceptions.
- 12:09So since I don't have to say I think he's gonna throw one,
- 12:11I can just say I think he'll go under. But is anybody going to
- 12:16be shocked by a guy throwing two interceptions the first time he's out there really
- 12:22on a big stage, And say what you want about the cotton ball,
- 12:26it's a big stage for him, it's big stage for the players, first
- 12:28real action month off of action from the well, shoot, he didn't play
- 12:35since like what Penn State October, so he's he's been gone for about seven
- 12:39weeks at that point, so or nine weeks from that point. So two
- 12:43interceptions would not shock anybody. But I will take the under Tom because I
- 12:50am not a hater. Yeah, I think the odds that he goes over
- 12:54one and a half interceptions, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna take the under
- 12:58two. Just be clear, the odds that he goes over one and a
- 13:00half interceptions is probably the same about the same as the odds he goes over
- 13:03two and a half touchdowns, where you know you wouldn't you wouldn't be surprised
- 13:07at all to see either side of either of those. Under is probably the
- 13:11safer bet for both of them until you see it, but that's you know,
- 13:16so I think I think those are both both You could you could make
- 13:18an argument either way, but I'm gonna lean with you under on both of
- 13:22them. Sacks tony three sacks taken by Devin Brown this season. I'm going
- 13:28to tell you Missouri's defense only had more than three sacks once that was against
- 13:33Middle Tennessee State, three sacks against Georgia and Tennessee and two in all of
- 13:37the other games, or fewer over under three and a half sacks. I'm
- 13:41going to go under because although you know, again it wouldn't be a shock
- 13:50for somebody to take a little bit longer to process when this is new for
- 13:54them, and you know the defense is going to come up with some stuff,
- 13:56so maybe there's some paralysis by analyst type of stuff, but also you're
- 14:00gonna want to call some dial up, some quick stuff so that that doesn't
- 14:03happen. Maybe some QB draws to where they have to. Maybe the defense
- 14:07has to be a little bit cautious on that pass rush so that they don't
- 14:11lose contained and give some stuff up. So I'll say under three and a
- 14:18half sacks. You. Yeah, I'm going under as well on that one.
- 14:22And I was all excited to make the point that I bet they kind
- 14:24of try to keep things relatively simple for him in his first game, and
- 14:26you beat me to it. But yeah, a lot of you know,
- 14:31you might have two reads and take off kind of plays lined up for him.
- 14:35You use the you know, use your legs where you know. House
- 14:39State fans are used to being on the other side of this right now,
- 14:43where the rush can't get too aggressive because if the edges, if the edges
- 14:46get behind the quarterback, then that opens up some real rushing lanes. That's
- 14:50usually some of the House State fans have been worrying about when they were on
- 14:52defense. But now WHU State may have a quarterback they can make opponents worry
- 14:56about that a little bit more. So, Yeah, I will go under
- 14:58on that as well. So this is gonna be I think we're gonna learn
- 15:01a lot about Devin Brown in this Cotton Bowl game. You should have most
- 15:05of his weapons and most presumably most of his offensive line, and all that
- 15:11against a pretty decent but not all world defense where there's a reasonable chance for
- 15:16some success, not a guarantee of success, but also not a guarantee of
- 15:20failure. So it's gonna be probably a pretty good barometer of what Devin Brown
- 15:24could look like for the Buckeyes moving forward. We will be there, boy,
- 15:31two weeks till the game, so we're like a week and a half
- 15:33away from getting on an airplane and going down to Dallas. Tony and Kevin
- 15:37and I will be down there covering the game. Got the early signing day
- 15:41coming up in just five days now, next Wednesday, the twentieth. A
- 15:43lot of recruiting news coming out transfer portal. Buck Guy's looking to add a
- 15:48couple of folks. Who knows if anyone else is going to go in the
- 15:50portal at this point. Lots of stuff to do, lots of stuff to
- 15:54talk about, lots of stuff to read about, lots of stuff to chat
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