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- 0:00And Tigers could win. Here, I could go Titans can give up a
- 0:05lead Tigers and come back for a non tackle. James, Why do they
- 0:12jump on him? What is this a podcast just because if he slays there,
- 0:17then it's penalties because you're not allowed talking about so much? Star Treking
- 0:41Get into Gate episode two hundred and twenty one talking Stargate SG one to get
- 0:46it A Gate team is here, Midge, Brandon, Maddie, how's its
- 0:50voice? Hello? You said your own name in there, introduce you are,
- 0:53like, my name's Mitch and joining me? But what happened to the
- 0:58waiting for us to say hi? I just like to change it up every
- 1:00week. I mean, I'm fine, Yeah, I have that question when
- 1:03I'm re listening. I wonder where does people still say I can't tell which
- 1:07one is Brendan and which ones? That's yeah, that's true. I should,
- 1:10you know, right, I should treat everybody to an extent, treat
- 1:12a podcast like it's got new listeners, just doing an air check just on
- 1:17the podcast. Yeah, okay, she confused. I'm the one with no
- 1:21enthusiasm and it's Brendon, right, and Mitch is the one. He's super
- 1:26enthusiastic, but sometimes it's about stuff I haven't even watched, like the episode
- 1:32we're about the talk Now. I have watched this, but occasionally I haven't
- 1:34go back to the last two hundred and twenty episodes and have a guest which
- 1:38ones other than the first ones, which we bring up all the time,
- 1:41and I still haven't. You aren't here for that, Well, you weren't
- 1:45even here for like episode two and three or three and four. It was
- 1:49two. I only talked about that the other day, like that. That
- 1:52still gives me shivers. We started this just we've walked in the studio.
- 1:56We talked about next month it'll be seven years since we started this. We
- 1:59did one episode. We're like, oh god, that felt great. It's
- 2:01such a fun episode to get back listen. We're nervous, we don't know
- 2:04what we're doing, but we're so excited to do it. Come episodes.
- 2:07I think we did two, three, maybe even four. That was that
- 2:12I think we did too. That's the shitty one. Yeah, sorry with
- 2:14theia No, no, thank you for saying that, though. What correct
- 2:20the guy that goes crazy that Carter was previously Commandment First Commandments episode four,
- 2:23I believe, Yeah, something like that. Um, I was definitely here
- 2:28for that one. So you're right, you guys do you for inpatient?
- 2:30You guys did that without me in the I honestly it just saying that it
- 2:36gives me shivers up my back. Then I'm I'm technically the Tilk of this
- 2:39podcast because I'm the only one that's never missed an episode. Mhmm, Yeah,
- 2:45that's true. And in that case, at that particular time, you
- 2:47were TILK and then all of a sudden, Hammond said, Hey, I'm
- 2:51taking off for the weekend. Here are the keys to the SGC. I'm
- 2:54not saying I'm as cool as Hammond, but as far as like, I
- 2:58let you into the building because I'm the only one it works here. And
- 3:00anyway, the more I sat at, the more I incriminate myself. And
- 3:04of course if anyone from works listening, obviously I'm joking. I got to
- 3:06point that out now. Obviously, Yeah, that was a completely different management.
- 3:09Oh, I got so many different bosses. There were so many bosses
- 3:13since then. Anyway, we're talking to episode eighteen of season nine of SG
- 3:16one. Arthur's mantle Arthur can we call him Arthur for the rest of the
- 3:21episode. Let's go and see what the old snopsters read. That was the
- 3:24resounding no from the rest of the I don't care, peaky blinders, mate,
- 3:30you meant like, um, mother and sons? Oh ye old yeah
- 3:34crack Australian yep, sitcom. I guess it was. Yeah, I guess
- 3:38because there was laughter track. She's like Arthur, oh mum, oh mum,
- 3:43mummy. It's like slightly less creepy than when Prince Charles now King Charles
- 3:47used to say, mummy, was this guy? Oh yeah, that was
- 3:51gross. No, no, he'd say this guy said mum. Yeah,
- 3:54but he's a comedic genius. Australia's Charles. There was there was the Australian
- 4:00version, and there was the English version. There was there was a mother
- 4:02and son, you know, there was there was mother and son, but
- 4:05then there was like some mothers that's different. Yeah, Frank Spencer, Yeah
- 4:11that's it. Yeah, Pussy the whoops in a barrow that's the one.
- 4:15Right now, there are Americans listening to this guy. What language are they
- 4:19talking? Yeah? I mean he did whide in a vagina. If you
- 4:23want to get real wild, go and go and get Are you being served?
- 4:27That's that's the that's the one. The Brothers, Yeah, the great
- 4:30Brothers one Missus slocum in in a pussy ftatic highbrow gear. Sounds like the
- 4:42missus bucket bouquet keeping appearances. That's the one. I mean, there's so
- 4:48many great ones. Check them out where other than star Gate Where for recommending
- 4:55Great American make Australian TV great again? That's are they making the Australian office?
- 5:00So probably do we have to great again? We'll see Yeah, okay,
- 5:05we're making the Australian alone or they have done it yet they have made
- 5:10it, and apparently it's ship because they not allowed to hunt any animals.
- 5:14Really, they're all native or endangered, so what's the point. They're all
- 5:16fishing and they can't take him. We've just found a Tasmanian tiger. Don't
- 5:21shoot it, but I'm going to die. No, it's more important than
- 5:26you are, and the Tazzi tiger ate it obviously. I feel my own
- 5:30version of Naked the Fraid home alone every Friday night. Yeah, you dot
- 5:33after And I appreciate the FaceTime course. Yeah, pretend your boy get his
- 5:40face got use the air quotes for FaceTime? Yes, yeah, some face.
- 5:44Yeah, there's a head and faces albums the old one Eyed Soldier off
- 5:48as Mantle. Daniel finds Carter's laptop or what's in the history there hooked up
- 5:54to an unfamiliar device which shifts its users to have seen the Actually Tilk is
- 6:00investigating a planet of Jaffar warriors. Tilk believes that Volneck, a warrior may
- 6:04have been brainwashed by the right none of that's right, but finds himself in
- 6:10an amulemule in an intense match with the Violence Warrior written by Alan McCall,
- 6:16directed by Peter Delowis. I missed that in my watch. I actually didn't
- 6:18see that credit. So there you go a little bit of Arthur's man or
- 6:23he did he Crystal Skull two point zero, Hello, welcome back. They
- 6:28didn't mention it too, which I was like, uh huh, that's right.
- 6:30It was a real different It was one of they didn't throw back that
- 6:34far in the previously on because it really just sort of cherry picked a bunch
- 6:38of different things from the last sort of season and a bit going, hey,
- 6:41this will be relevant when they mentioned this person's naying this is what he
- 6:44looks like, and okay, moving on now. But so Volneck. Right,
- 6:47he was the one that Mitchell thought he killed was taken back to the
- 6:50base. Right, that was him? Or he was the brother. He's
- 6:53the brother the guy, the guy that took sorry, the guy that took
- 6:59care of Mitchell in the village was the one that just was dead prior to
- 7:01this, he'd been killed off screen. I thought he was the bad guy
- 7:05zombie. Okay, I couldn't tell you. I mean because of the I'm
- 7:10not gonna no, I don't want to say it. But they look similar
- 7:14with the maker. Well, they're brothers in real life. Yeah, and
- 7:17his hair grew because he just knew one of them was long hair, one
- 7:21of them the short hair. Yeah, we can. We're allowed to say
- 7:24all of that. We just don't touch his hair. Yeah, Doctor Lee's
- 7:29eating blue Jellow for breakfast. Yes, I did notice that. Actually that
- 7:33was That was one thing that very much that stood out. I love spotting
- 7:36a Jellow reference. But I guess that that should have told me that it
- 7:39was a Delawies episode, but breakfast. But didn't he say where's the other
- 7:43colored jello? Was that later? That's a different episode. Like I said,
- 7:47I watched these a long time ago. That might be for when you
- 7:50watch next week's episode. Yeah, that's your memory is so good for something
- 7:54you haven't watched so long. No, obviously, because like at the start,
- 7:58Cam walks in and he's like, you've been here all night. We're
- 8:01supposed to go get breakfast, right, we're talking about this episode. Yeah,
- 8:03we're going on We're on Earth this time. I like the Honey I
- 8:07Shrunk the Kids reference. Oh my god, I wrote it down because it's
- 8:11such a good phrase. I've calculated the distance that they can travel on tiny
- 8:13legs, just tiny legs, because so good. It was such a weird
- 8:24I guess you could calculate it because they would have to be so small that
- 8:26you can't see them with the visible eye. Yeah, so you could say
- 8:30the maximum length of their legs here is x. Yeah, distance travel time
- 8:35equ was why. Yeah, I mean sure, I'll won't go to Commercion
- 8:39dot com for that. But today, like I jumped on my GPS on
- 8:41my phone because I wanted to get fuel, like on the way here,
- 8:46and I'm like, if I divert this way, i can go to this
- 8:48fuel station that I like because I'm a CD And when I went to sort
- 8:50of click it in for some reason, it had been set to walk,
- 8:54not drive, and what was like an eight minute drive was a five hour
- 8:58walk. And I'm just like, what what the actual So like, yeah,
- 9:05it'd be that same thing. It's like you just judge, like,
- 9:05okay, well send them in this minute of time. They can maps.
- 9:09Yeah, Google Maps just just like just like pinching the phone, heats all
- 9:15the way into shy In Mountain, into the black square that is shy And
- 9:18Mountain, just like the way that they revealed his theory, because like what
- 9:22else could it be. And he's just sitting there like it's just come to
- 9:26like they shrunk. But then all of a sudden, he goes, okay,
- 9:28doctor said it to this, and they've already got like a caution tape
- 9:33sort of circle around the desk, and I'm like, said, were you
- 9:35only just thinking about that, like prior to the fact that you're just revealing
- 9:41it to them, like you're waiting for like a dramatic setup or something.
- 9:43He's already knew, he's already working the problem, he's already halfway through it
- 9:48before he tells hithing is. I was actually impressed that he did that no
- 9:50joke, because if they did shrink, you'd be like, you're an idiot,
- 9:56you're stepping in them, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah,
- 9:58yeah, And the fact that that like they all looked at him strange.
- 10:01It was only just because of the way he worded it, Like he
- 10:03could have said, this is the first theory. I want to get out
- 10:07of the way. But if they were shrink that's small, would they would
- 10:11they've ended up on the ground, or would they've ended up on the table
- 10:13where the device is? Like I think that was It was like, well,
- 10:18shrinking makes no sense because what benefit does that give to an ancient to
- 10:20shrink them down where they can't then reach the machine that would then unshrink them.
- 10:26Well, they didn't know what it was, did they. I know
- 10:28it was something. Yeah, they knew that the machine had done something.
- 10:31No, no, but I mean they had a theory about what it was.
- 10:35I thought, didn't they get that they got that device? It's been
- 10:39a long time since I've seen that. They got it from Glastonbury Festival.
- 10:43Yeah, that's right, Yeah, because it was just in with all the
- 10:48treasures when like when Vala was there, like the sword, all the gold
- 10:52coins all over all over a titty's giving herself a golden shower and stuff that
- 10:56was just in the background somewhere, Okay, Yeah, and then they've been
- 11:01they've been working on it off screen this whole time. Speaking of Doctor Lee,
- 11:03when he first I guess we could all take a wild guess as to
- 11:07when he came into the show for the first time. But when he when
- 11:09he popped up, I remembered him. It was early too, wasn't it.
- 11:13Wasn't it like there was one appearance in season four or five. I
- 11:16think it was a prodigy with the little light bugs on that moon. Okay,
- 11:22then come back like eighties. He didn't come back to like seven.
- 11:26I think when he and Daniel went searching for the col war de Yeah,
- 11:31that was like his first big episode in a long and he was Was it
- 11:35him that it was in the episode where Mayborne and Jack went off the world?
- 11:39Was it? No, that was a different scientist. No, I
- 11:39think that might have been him, like Carter was yelling at him or whatever.
- 11:43Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure he was there for that was whenever
- 11:46he popped back in, and I just remember thinking, oh, yeah,
- 11:48I know this guy. I like this guy. Like the way that the
- 11:50actor performs and how they fit him into the stories, blah blah blah.
- 11:54But I feel like I'm still in this rewatch waiting for the episode or the
- 12:01story that gives me that memory that I've held onto because I just especially in
- 12:05this episode, because they just kept coming back to him without Carter there.
- 12:09He's the next smartest guy on the base to try and work this out,
- 12:11or is he? I just felt like they just they keep making him out
- 12:15like an idiot, like he just doesn't you know the way that Daniel Jackson
- 12:18and hates doctor Yeah, just flat and it's hilarious. So I get what
- 12:22Michael Shanks is doing it, but it just makes Jackson feel like an absolute
- 12:28douchebag. Yeah, he's just so mean to him all the time. Yeah,
- 12:31And I don't know if it's just like you know PTSD from like their
- 12:35time in Nicaragua or wherever. It was like oh yeah, no, it
- 12:39totally is, you know, like he just always forget about that because in
- 12:43captivity together, Yeah, just dripping with this saying hilarious. I agree with
- 12:48you. Yeah, you know, I've never really made their connections like Okay,
- 12:52yeah they'll captured because SG one get captured constantly. Yeah, so you'n't
- 12:56ever really think about that. But because Doctor Lee and they're in like real
- 13:01scenario situation, I feel like I feel like, in a way, he's
- 13:03like the Zelenka of SG of he doesn't smell as bad. Yeah, but
- 13:09also it's like I feel like, like we had doctor Lene, he was
- 13:13just like random doctor number seven. Then they did the other guys in Avenger
- 13:18two point zero and they're like, oh, this is actually great to have
- 13:20like a civilian. Yeah, dumb probably couldn't get that other act like couldn't
- 13:26get Felder back again, and Billingsley was overdoing enterprise. So they're like,
- 13:31Okay, who we'll talk about next week one week, Um, I'm ruling
- 13:37it. I did as a solid reference to what we're talking about me and
- 13:41I didn't have to say enterprise. I didn't. I didn't say the words
- 13:45though. He said something they don't even they don't even have those words in
- 13:48the title for the first two seasons enterprise. Yeah, but we know where
- 13:52enterprise is from. Yeah, but the show doesn't. Where's the enterprise from?
- 13:58For the first two seasons, it's just enterprise. It's ironically, but
- 14:01you bring it up. We're talking about it longer like, yeah, I'm
- 14:03just waiting for I'm enjoying them. I had to see it for fifteen minutes
- 14:11before you guys record. Were you guys banging on about these guys over here
- 14:15on the field. We should be home watching this, but instead we're here
- 14:18to record because you're going away. Hey, I was free last weekend and
- 14:22the weekend before, standing around by myself and my house holding my dick,
- 14:26waiting for you to to get shit every weekend and nothing happened. Did happen
- 14:33Star Trek two weekends in or I'll watched Star Trek before we got here.
- 14:37Good press, that's sitting here. I mean this shit, Mitch, what
- 14:41are you doing to me? Bullshit? Absolutely bullshit. That one's under protests
- 14:48and I'll tell you what you guys, you can work it off. I
- 14:52feel like you should be allowed to work it off. Game on Game Motherfu
- 15:01in the sci fi podcast spectrum, too equally popular. It's not even a
- 15:09bit, Maddie'll argue against that. We can't. We can't open you up
- 15:11to say that it's not as popular as the other one that's even in that
- 15:16franchise as a vast contrast of popularity isn't name Maddie. He wouldn't know because
- 15:22he wouldn't He wouldn't dare commentate. I'm just I'm just blind and deaf with
- 15:28rage right now, so I don't even know it. But yeah, I
- 15:33feel like it's probably a good um comparison with Zelenka. But I feel like
- 15:37in that show, we know that he's not as smart as Rodney, but
- 15:41if we just gave him a chance, he probably he gets just he gets
- 15:45frustrated because maybe people don't listen to him as much, and Rodney's a piece
- 15:48of shit to him. But if we gave him a chance, he would
- 15:50be able to show that he's just as good as Rodney. But we don't
- 15:52think about him that way. Whereas Doctor Lee. So far, I keep
- 15:56I'm like, this guy's great, this guy's really smart. He knows what
- 15:58he's talking about. But I feel like he's kind of fodder at the moment
- 16:02where it's like, oh, there's some comic relief, like not that he's
- 16:04out there being funny, but we can ever like the fact that Daniel seems
- 16:08to hate him. We as an audience, we're going to sympathize with Daniel.
- 16:12He's been there since the movie. We're going to sympathize with everybody an
- 16:15SG one and if they don't like him, and like Carter's like, oh,
- 16:18that's cute that you don't understand that, and then Mitchell's new to it
- 16:22and he's like, mate, you're not as good as Carter, like know
- 16:25where your places. Jackson's just like, you're a piece of shit. Why
- 16:29are you breathing the same air that I am. We're gonna go directly in
- 16:33the eye. Yeah, we're kind of going to judge him because of them.
- 16:36So I mean, to be fair, ze Link has actually done some
- 16:38stuff where he's actually been correct, like certain times where Roddy's had to go
- 16:42you're right, Okay. I don't think doctor Lee's ever actually been right,
- 16:47except for maybe that Sam argument where Sam was getting too emotionally invested with Mayborne
- 16:52and jack b yeah, missing and stuff, But especially in this episode where
- 16:57it's like he gets yelled at by Jackson and then heis up again by well,
- 17:04I mean it helps, but hes up by thinking he's solving the problem.
- 17:07It makes Jackson invisible slash intangible as well, and then right at the
- 17:11end of the episode, but he actually did a good thing in my opinion,
- 17:15now that's what I mean. He didn't mean to, but yeah he
- 17:18stop, but it actually ended up helping them sort of fix it. But
- 17:22then at the end as well, like Landry doubles down and he's just like,
- 17:25if you make me invisible, there won't be a dimension safe enough for
- 17:27you. Like he's actually going to just punch him with good old like angry
- 17:32Landry. So yeah, I just yeah, I don't think doctor leever got
- 17:36a moment to just be like, hey, I actually got something right for
- 17:38a change. Yeah. Yeah, they haven't given him his chance, So
- 17:41I'm wondering whether there was just some weird hangover that character that I've remembered him
- 17:47as being something that maybe he never gets to. But I mean saying that
- 17:51he's got it, He's got another season. Didn't he fix the plant issue?
- 17:55Was that back in hinting a season eight? Yeah? When no,
- 18:00didn't he cause it though? Oh someone brought him back. Yeah, And
- 18:03he was the one that kept giving Jack updates. They're like, oh we
- 18:07found out that it's lights awesome. Yeah, he might have actually your energy
- 18:11not just light. Yeah. Yeah, Like I'm actually surprised every time he's
- 18:15on screen. They don't play like the Ergo music. That's what I'm feeling
- 18:19like, is that, Yeah, he's, Oh, here's this guy to
- 18:22say something stupid again and to like not further the plot because he's not fixing
- 18:26anything. So I kind of I kind of feel for him. Yeah,
- 18:29Although the flip side of that is I loved that moment early on where Carter's
- 18:33in the gate room and like Walsh is there and there's the other no name
- 18:36scientists and they're trying to figure out like detect stuff and she's just like yelling
- 18:41in their ear being like the color efficient is see it. It's like,
- 18:45come on, you're gonna do Oh no, you didn't do it. I
- 18:48love that. Yeah, that's good. I did like the fact that there
- 18:52are two things going on in this episode. It's not just like, hey,
- 18:56Mitchell and Carter they've they've disappeared and that's our episode and nothing else important
- 19:02around it happens like the idea that they've disappeared, Hey, well we've got
- 19:06to find them. Where are they? Hey? Off world activation unscheduled off
- 19:10world activation. And then it's we're we're getting a message from the Saddan some
- 19:14ship's going down. We've got to go over there and we've got to figure
- 19:15out what, Like, just because two of our main characters out of commission
- 19:22doesn't mean the rest of the Galaxy stops rotating. So I like that,
- 19:26Well, hey, we've got half our team, but we've still got to
- 19:29go and fix this mess. We're going to try and investigate it. So
- 19:32like, obviously those two were destined to come together at something. I mean,
- 19:34yeah, the end of the day was super Yeah, it was super
- 19:38easy. Barely an incommunition. Yeah. Yeah, that the Sodan cloak works
- 19:42on the same wavelength as the ancient thing. Yeah, I think that,
- 19:47Like if you look at this, okay, the mcguffin, I guess in
- 19:51a way that that the how or the why of the Carter and Mitchell thing,
- 19:53the device and then their problem. That's two things in itself. They're
- 19:57both fine. The the how and the why of TILK. That's great.
- 20:02We're were to go over there. There they're being attacked, these warriors.
- 20:03People don't even know where they are. They wouldn't know how to find them
- 20:07at something they haven't they've killed everybody. But the reasoning the that was the
- 20:11weakest part. It was like, oh, okay, so one of them's
- 20:14zombie and it's Oh, it's that guy that was kind of a part of
- 20:17another episode, wasn't The part of the reasoning that's the worst is the fact
- 20:22that they're getting attacked by one of their own and they go quick, go
- 20:25and call SG one yea earth. Yeah remember that guy, he was here
- 20:30for a bit. Yeah, them why yeah, like that, We literally
- 20:34they don't know any of our history, what we've accomplished, apart from Mitchell
- 20:37said, and he doesn't even know because he wasn't part of the team.
- 20:41So to me, that was the biggest stretch of the whole thing. I
- 20:45mean, I guess you could say, like maybe things have thought a little
- 20:48bit after the whole Fourth Horseman thing, where like we used their village and
- 20:52the prior and stuff like that, so you reckon we are just we saved
- 20:56them from priors. Now, yeah, I guess, yeah, I forgot
- 21:00about that. Yeah, yeah, definitely I forgot. No, I didn't
- 21:03forget about that, but I forgot that it was in that village. Yeah.
- 21:07Yeah, it's still it's still smacks of it should have been Tilk storyline,
- 21:11not Camerons. And yeah, at least it's like, yeah, if
- 21:15you go back to Crystal Skull like it kind of made sense, like Daniel
- 21:18and Nicholas Ballad both got zapped by the same thing, or like, you
- 21:23know, there's three skulls that connected or whatever it was, so that's why
- 21:26Nicholas could see Daniel, and it's like, well, the only possible connection.
- 21:33And they briefly mentioned the episode is you know this was Sodann Cloak is
- 21:38obviously, like, you know, ancient technology because the transport pillar that transports
- 21:44you to the Soda And village is ancient as well, So that's ancient technology.
- 21:48But wasn't the skull met Oh the skull was that's like ul Coddle or
- 21:52whatever it was. Remember there was the big giant aliens. But then it
- 21:59does kind of poke a hole in the fact that it's like, okay,
- 22:00well, they say the whole point of Arthur's mantle was so that Mirden could
- 22:06hide from the ancients to do his research to develop this weapon to kill other
- 22:11ascended beings. But then he's just phasing into an area or space where they're
- 22:17they're giving away these so Dan cloaks for free to these Jabarah and those guys
- 22:22could have actually stumbled across. Yeah, Merlin's device and technology and everything like
- 22:27that. So it's like it's find a different area, dude, Like,
- 22:30come on, Merlin, like find a different, you know, different dimension
- 22:33to hide in or whatever. Yeah. So yeah, but having it like
- 22:37I don't care because this episode is so much fun. I don't care about
- 22:41any of that. Yeah, I agree, it doesn't. It doesn't ruin
- 22:42the episode for me. It's just aren't okay, it's fun. Like just
- 22:45that moment where Tilk like obviously Cameron just appeared out of nowhere, when Tilk
- 22:51cactivated his cloak mid conversation and Tilk did not even believe it's so weird,
- 22:55Yeah, and just suddenly starts responding to him. Yeah, Yeah, I
- 22:59didn't like that. I think he should have done a double take at least
- 23:03would that have been in Til's character though, Well, for me, the
- 23:08fact that when he was on an entirely different planet, he was in a
- 23:11space that they could only transport too, but not away from right like from
- 23:15the gate to get there, and he was in his casual clothes from the
- 23:19base, like he's walked around the sleeves all rolled up, and yeah,
- 23:25till while Invisible saw him and just didn't think anything. I thought that was
- 23:27a little bit weird. I suppose till did leave very early on before they
- 23:33figured out any of that kind of stuff, So yeah, he probably would
- 23:36have been would have been good if he was around the base a little bit
- 23:37longer to sort of know what was going on with I mean, I liked
- 23:41I liked the fact that he wasn't surprised, But if he had, if
- 23:45Mitchell had have spoken and he turned around and didn't react, I would have
- 23:49been fine with it. But I think the fact that he he just heard
- 23:52his voice and then just spoke to him without him and looking at him,
- 23:56I was, I don't know, I just didn't like. I don't know,
- 24:00there's something that I didn't like. Yeah, I did like Cam's little
- 24:03line though about he's like, oh we need a whoopee excuse me, ladies,
- 24:07nuns, sisters? Is whoopy gold broke around anywhere? If I had
- 24:10a nickel for every time I heard that one game on Bitches and Gather you
- 24:17do you do? I was that, Yeah we deserve that. Yeah that's
- 24:21fine unless we deserve it. Well okay, yeah we don't deserve it.
- 24:26No one deserves cancer, but people still getay, you're the one that caught
- 24:30it. Cancer mate. Yeah, when you say it's fine, I think
- 24:34about just the nature. You know, it's always fun to say, you
- 24:37know, two characters walking together and like you know, like one phases through
- 24:41another and then trying to navigate that and also try and predict how much effort
- 24:45the filmmakers are going to go to show that, like the idea that they
- 24:49sort of you know, walked through. Um it was the Doctor, right,
- 24:52it was Lee at the start like that, yeah, Carter and like,
- 24:56oh my god, And you have to show that when I first phase
- 25:00into another dimension to say these are the stakes. But then when they go
- 25:03to the gate room or no, they go to find Daniel. So they're
- 25:06going to find Daniel to get him to help because they figure, hey,
- 25:07he's probably still going to be able to see people in a different dimension even
- 25:11though he hasn't done that since the only time he's done it. Then against
- 25:15a big galaxy, what are the chances let's go and find him. And
- 25:18as they're walking through, part of it very much is Mitchell. He's so
- 25:21used to if someone's walking toward him, having to dodge them and not run
- 25:25into them. But I'm like, oh, that's just them being like it's
- 25:27let's just save us some editing time and some cgiing and layering the different shots
- 25:33so that we don't have to continuously to show him walking through other characters.
- 25:37But then they did throw it in where they didn't need to as well,
- 25:41so it wasn't like they would trying a distance themselves. It was just like,
- 25:44let's not overdo it because then it will become a gimmick that people won't
- 25:48appreciate once we've done it more than three or four times. He could have
- 25:52gone, oh that was gross. Yeah inside you now, Yeah, yeah,
- 25:57I would have liked it if Daniel had a just at least being like,
- 26:00head, I've got I think that happening ghosts. I think they did
- 26:06that. Yeah yeah. Other thenning in you that you could also take over
- 26:08people's bodies in that one, so that's a little weird. Um there was
- 26:12like obviously because all the writers of the show are all massive sci fi nerds,
- 26:17and there is a quite famous episode of another popular sci fi show where
- 26:21two characters, yeah are in are intangible, um you know, in a
- 26:26different dimension like out of phase with with you know, everything around them,
- 26:29but they're on a spaceship, you know, zooming through the through space.
- 26:33Yeah, and everyone's like, well, why aren't they, Why aren't they
- 26:36if they can't if they can walk through walls, why aren't they falling through
- 26:40the floor? Yeah, and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah,
- 26:41yeah, So that conversation was also brought up in this episode, like
- 26:45the in the writer's room when they're trying to break the story and that kind
- 26:48of stuff. They're like, well, you know, if they if they
- 26:49can like reach through the cup and all that kind of stuff, well,
- 26:52then whyn't they just you know, they're on level what twenty six of fifty
- 26:56or whatever, So it's like, well, what's happened should be in the
- 26:57ground. And we never saw them have to open up doors at any point,
- 27:00like when they were from scene to scene they had gone through blast doors
- 27:06or down lyfts yea or whatever. So we never had to see them convened
- 27:10like waite for twenty minutes for someone to come and press the button to go
- 27:12up the elevator. So this is the conversation that they had, and it
- 27:15was something that made it into one of the early cuts, and then they
- 27:18sort of pulled it out in the last minute and actually in the wh when
- 27:22this story was pitching and even made it to my first draft. I had
- 27:26written in a scene where where we hang a lantern on the fact that they
- 27:30aren't going through the floor because Mitchell, you know, Mitchell's actually says,
- 27:33so, I don't get it if you're out of you know, in another
- 27:37dimension, why aren't we going through the floor? And he looks down and
- 27:40he's half on the floor, and Carter says, either think the line was
- 27:44something like, it's better if you don't think about it, and yanks him
- 27:47back out, and then and then we just sort of dispense with it right
- 27:48right from there and make a joke out of it. But that line,
- 27:53maybe I think Brad cut it or you know, it didn't make it to
- 27:56the second draft. It was you know, it was there was a dispute
- 28:00over whether it should be in there at all. I think I could go
- 28:03with the way on that one. They couldn't. They could have just been
- 28:06able to touch things, but then it wouldn't have made like communicating too easy.
- 28:12Well, I mean they went with the button thing. Yeah, but
- 28:15obviously that was like the keyboard is the only thing that's tangible in both dimensions,
- 28:22so it's like if they could touch things in that dimension, well,
- 28:26then are they they're just invisible at that point then, aren't they so they
- 28:30could touch and write and you know, just write, sit down and yeah,
- 28:33because they weren't they walking through tables and ship. Yeah, I'm like,
- 28:37oh, that was dumb. They could have walked around it, you
- 28:40know. And there's the whole through line of like Cam being like, I
- 28:42can't eat, I'm hungry, I can't so what's gonna happen? So that
- 28:47I think that was introducing the pail, whereas if they were just invisible and
- 28:51could interact with stuff, it'd be like that scene from or maybe it's maybe
- 28:56it's two hundred where like Jack's invisible, they do that. They did like
- 29:00the cut the thing where they all this time that was invisible when he wasn't.
- 29:04Yeah, yeah, I was wanting to know more about that, like,
- 29:07because he didn't actually say that he was hungry. It was mostly just
- 29:11that what they were eating was something that he had been asking for, the
- 29:14roast beef. He was he was hungry because they were about to go and
- 29:17have breakfast, of course, sorry, and hungry from that, Yeah,
- 29:19and then they became you know, in the other dimension and yeah, and
- 29:23then it cuts to lunch and they're like, oh, they're serving rose beef.
- 29:26I was asking for roast beef. And yeah, I think I was
- 29:29waiting for someone to make a comment like they weren't he like Carter still wasn't
- 29:36hungry or something, or she neither of them had been thirsty, or they
- 29:40hadn't needed to go to the bathroom. I feel like, yeah, maybe
- 29:44they didn't even get tired in that dimension. If he was going to that
- 29:45dimension to work on this device, maybe it did something to like the energy
- 29:51or whatever. It just sort of almost put his body functions like that in
- 29:53station. Yeah, Merlin's trying to work on this. And this is obably
- 29:57the first mention of iagine geeks being able to play World of Warcraft without having
- 30:03to go to the toilet or even just like it probably up the peril of
- 30:07being stuck there, like if you couldn't die from malnutrition or something, the
- 30:12idea that you could literally be stuck there forever with no need to sleep,
- 30:17no need to eat or drink, couldn't interact, No, that would like,
- 30:21that's that is hell on limbo. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah,
- 30:26where to bring it down, Mitch, Yeah, they start seeing dead
- 30:30people that'd be cool, like Kawawski's there with no head. Yeah, well,
- 30:33I mean there was there was There's plenty of dead people on the Sodan
- 30:37planet that were just sprawled every im pretty like I can't remember precisely, but
- 30:41there was like a line about how some of the villagers were like trying to
- 30:45beam away and stuff like that early on. So I don't know whether they
- 30:48got away or whether Haikon is literally just the last member of the Sodan and
- 30:52the rest of them are all dead. That's kind of the field that I
- 30:56got from him him, like when he really pushed it saying no, like
- 31:00he killed it. He killed his own brother, he killed all these warriors,
- 31:03the women and children started running and he chased after them and he slaughtered
- 31:07them or as far as I know on the end, and like, yeah,
- 31:11that is a great line. As far as I know, I'm the
- 31:14only one that lived. But at the same time, and I'm like,
- 31:15how do we need you guys anymore? At this point, Like you were
- 31:19a cool thing to have found earlier on this season we got this hidden Jafar.
- 31:23What could you possibly offer us in the way of some hidden tech or
- 31:26something, But by this stage, I don't know do we need you on
- 31:30going a nice way to develop Cameron Mitchell's character. Yeah, exactly what I
- 31:33said is like that's the reason they were brought in some cool combat and they
- 31:38paid a bunch of money to build that village, which I think I did
- 31:45here in this audio commentary, And it might have had something to do with
- 31:47the idea of them getting rid of the sodan is that was all being that
- 31:51land was all being developed. So I think in the same way, we
- 31:53don't go to abdose anymore because that desert literally doesn't exist anymore. That's like
- 31:57condominiums now it's ascended. Yeah, like that that desert doesn't exist anymore.
- 32:04Wow, Yeah, it's all like it's a metropolitan area now, sit Um.
- 32:07I think this area might have been the same, like it was getting
- 32:10developed and stuff like that. So I think they were losing access to that
- 32:14set, yeah, that they'd built, So I think that might have been
- 32:15why they they got rid of the soda. But it also does kind of
- 32:21make the ore I look like dickheads, because imagine if this had been the
- 32:27plague from Full of Horsemen, whereas like instead of just getting really really sick,
- 32:30you turn into that zombie that kills everyone. Yeah, problem solved,
- 32:35guys like you can't be killed. That one guy took out the entire Sodan
- 32:39village. Yeah, imagine if just like ten people on Earth got infected and
- 32:44it was a full zombie apocalypse. Like you if you bit someone, you
- 32:47know you passed it on because I guess I mean not that you know,
- 32:52we're trying to explore all those kind of tropes in SG one, but we
- 32:57we haven't had a zombie type read out there before. Have we haven't had
- 33:00zombies? Like there's only that one where the the Doctor Lee episode. I
- 33:08was seeing about the one where Daniel goes crazy and he's seeing the zombies but
- 33:13their ghosts. Oh yeah, I was thinking, remember um the Evolution episode
- 33:16where Daniel and Doctor Lee had taken pretty Yeah, that's where it's from.
- 33:20And then there's the Nicaragua guy who remember them they had to blow him up,
- 33:23Oh yeah, helicopter and stuff like, yeah, yeah they had well
- 33:28they mentioned that Daniel Daniel or the other guy I mentioned that oh in this
- 33:34episode yeah oh yeah, like the reanimation device. But I just mean like
- 33:37he was technically zombie because it's like we killed him and then he came back
- 33:38to life. He wasn't like the Fountain of Youth. And then that's why,
- 33:44yeah, we've seen this before, but this Sodan guy definitely like with
- 33:46the makeup and stuff they gave him, looked very zombie, like yeah,
- 33:50I like Carter bringing out with Mitchell like oh my god, you really did
- 33:53read all of our reports, like, you know, every all of our
- 33:55old missions and him making the reference of you know, we're doing like an
- 34:00interdimensional phase. And then there was what was the second one that he said,
- 34:04um, and he's like, oh, if I'm going to get a
- 34:06time travel adventure coming up, I can just knock off. It's it's like
- 34:12we came in mid mid conversation the same way we did back with um,
- 34:15we're in Caldwell a few weeks ago. He's like, oh, so that
- 34:19this is altered dimensions, but Ripple Effect was alternate reality. Yeah yeah,
- 34:22yeah, I think yeah. That's when he was then like oh, okay,
- 34:24if I can do a time final. I just sort of catch up
- 34:27really quickly within that conversation because I'm like, oh, this is becoming like
- 34:30a chat on the podcast, Like no, no, no, you don't
- 34:32mean dimension in like a like a vast space reality like you know, points
- 34:38in time, Like we're talking literally about phases of like one dimension to yeah,
- 34:45yeah yeah this reality, yeah, this is universe or something whatever is
- 34:51the right one. And I'm okay, coo cool, yeah this still makes
- 34:54sense. And even the eleven, I'm like, oh eleven, yeah,
- 34:57I I don't know what I've been aware of or whether we forgotten some note
- 35:01had a problem with that. I was reading someone trivia and I couldn't give
- 35:04She's like, someone's like, it's actually only nine. But the other two
- 35:07from this other thing would know that when Carter mentions that there's like eleven dimensions
- 35:12that we know of, and that's why they're like, oh, Daniel must
- 35:15have been to one of the other eleven and that's why you can't see us
- 35:19in this one. But someone with lup was actually only nine card would know
- 35:22that the other two don't actually count. Because of this reason, I was
- 35:23like, oh my god, I'm so bored. And I like the idea
- 35:28that also, how would he know? Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah
- 35:32what Carter knows. Yeah, she's been to other planets. Yeah, and
- 35:36she just discovered two new ones. Were talking about Crystal Skull and this one
- 35:38that's eleven bitch. She's like, if I had the opportunity to travel back
- 35:43in time, which sometimes i'm presented, I will teach you how this eleven
- 35:46dimensions? Great? Well, oh shit, I don't really need to read.
- 36:00Watched that another popular actress from another Oh good points. Oh shit,
- 36:07it could be three. You brought her up, not me. That was
- 36:10a little rascals, mate, So I brought her up. She's an actress.
- 36:15Sister Act was one of the great sister Act two even better. It's
- 36:19one of those ones where there's one of those few films where the sequels better
- 36:22than the original. That's yeah. Yeah, there was like stray too far
- 36:27away from what the you know what I mean. Like the first one you
- 36:29had Lauren Hill singing in it. Oh, it was great. I watched
- 36:31it. I watched it many times. Yeah Lauren Hill. Yeah, I
- 36:36watched that movie so many times. The kit number two. But I feel
- 36:38like it's like they're like, oh, the first one was, hey,
- 36:42she's on the run from the mob, and it's not that it was a
- 36:44drama, but it was kind of the fish out of water theme, whereas
- 36:46the second one was just like, hey, remember the gimmick that was funny
- 36:49from the first one. Now it's the whole film, so it's like it's
- 36:52a completely different story. Oh yeah, but still it's like the Michelle Gangster's
- 36:59parents. Yes one, yeah, Dangerous Minds. Dangerous Minds with a nun
- 37:04Yeah yeah, yeah, except except Michell five is an actual qualified teacher's leather
- 37:09jacket and she and she's not pretending to um yeah be a nun. Yeah
- 37:15for the kids. Still lives lives in my mind, rent free as they
- 37:19say, whoopie, God were working into that movie. Just hands on the
- 37:22chalkboard. Yeah, well, oh God destroyed me and Dangerous Minds. Fat
- 37:28Anubis Fat and Nubis. Remember Fat Anubis from the UM right, Yeah,
- 37:35yeah, yeah, that's a that's her teacher friend in Dangerous Minds. I
- 37:39think you meant like the actor who played at Nubis was a fat kid.
- 37:45The actor who played a Nubis was the fat guy. Mind I was like
- 37:49the fat kid and sister Act two. You're like the father in Bloody Big
- 37:54Fact Greek. Ready, Like, give me any movie or TV show and
- 37:57I'll show you how it relates the Stargate. Like you've just like what a
- 38:00guest did you say? Gate? Yes, I can do it to Gate,
- 38:04I can do it to other things. That's why I love the Kevin
- 38:07Bacon game so much. Yeah, yeah, I love what the inter connectivity
- 38:12the Kevin bake. I don't even know what the Kevin Bacon so Kevin baking.
- 38:15The traditional Kevin Bacon game is seven seven degrees of Kevin Bacon, and
- 38:20it's I give you, and I say, Tom Cruise, this is an
- 38:24easy one. You've got seven moves to get to Kevin Bacon. So like
- 38:30a movie that Tom Cruise was in, it was with someone else to get
- 38:34to Kevin Bacon. Good once you've done it once. That's why it was
- 38:37easy one. I went in two, I went how it would it be
- 38:40too? I went Tom Cruise in Top Gun Maverick with Ed Harris and Harris
- 38:45in Apollo thirteen. Kevin Bacon, Harris, how good is he? He's
- 38:51so good? Okay, Yeah, So that's the Kevin Bacon game. But
- 38:53I can do that with pretty much anybody, okay, like you, especially
- 38:58in the sci fi realm, like I can get I can get Lincoln in
- 39:01like four moves to like Captain Janeway, like it's yeah, yeah, it's
- 39:06ridunculous. Seven degrees of separation. But yeah, and that's that's where it
- 39:12came from. Kevin Bacon. Yeah, because the premise being that Kevin Bacon
- 39:15has been in everything. Yeah, they should make it Samuel Jack. Yeah,
- 39:21Everywhere's one star. Oh yeah. I think the biggest issue I had
- 39:27in this episode, apart from why the Sudan like us so Dan so similar
- 39:35but different play, what's going on? Roseanne Tilk is using two P nineties,
- 39:40but he's really clumsy with it, Like I feel like every time he
- 39:45needs to touch something, he has to put it in both hands. And
- 39:47I thought, like, what would be cool as having those kind of strap
- 39:52or rip chord things, you know how you have those swipe access cards and
- 39:57comes back to your side and you can. He just needs to be helpful.
- 40:00The Color Warrior wristbands is what he needs. Yeah, of course we
- 40:05should. We've said that now. Apparently apparently it's a thing because it's like
- 40:09they kept giving Mitchell sorry Cam, they kept giving Cam the big gun like
- 40:16the saw or the peple whatever, and so tells, yeah, whatever it
- 40:22was. So it looks like, well I want something, and they're like,
- 40:25well, i'll give you two P nineties. And I think he liked
- 40:28it because remember back in Off the Grid when he beamed in and he did
- 40:30in that same post, so I think he's feeling bad ter. So they're
- 40:34like and he didn't have P nineties that time, he had something a little
- 40:36bit smaller, but this time they decided to Yeah, but I just looked
- 40:39to be clunky. He was to walk around and keep like he did three
- 40:44or four times. It was we had like hold two P nineties in one
- 40:46hand while he was like tapping the transport device and all that just feel like
- 40:50the strap like even if yeah, like an elastic band or something, Yeah,
- 40:55it would have been nice. But yeah, but like he we've said
- 40:59that many many times, could have had that Cole Warrior bands that would he
- 41:02Also, he also didn't keep the Sodan cloak like he Yeah, he didn't
- 41:08keep it on like that should have been his like he doesn't use it like
- 41:12this episode going anything that could have become his singnature thing. We never tire
- 41:16you here. That That was my other note, Like Cameron Mitchell, he
- 41:22shouldn't have been able to be seen for at least five minutes. Oh yeah,
- 41:25the Carter should have been like I can't find him hard, I'll meet
- 41:29you i'll meet you in the gate room. I'm going off world. Yeah,
- 41:34I just want to see how how far this bodily function thing. But
- 41:37the fact that he said the words bodily functions, I'm like, oh,
- 41:39I know exactly, Doctor Lamb on shift today, I'm like, Oh,
- 41:45it's the man's locker room is about to turn into the women's one in five
- 41:47minutes. I'll be right back. I didn't love the moment where where he
- 41:52and Tilka are, you know, trying to figure out the problem and he's
- 41:55like and Cam's like, oh, okay, I'll be the I'll be the
- 42:00I'll be the bait. And he's like, you know, because he can't
- 42:01even hurt me, gone try, And before he even got the word out,
- 42:05yeah, Tilk took a swing at him, backhands him with the gun.
- 42:07Yeah, you would have killed him. It's a running theme, like
- 42:10you go back to like the start of Theason watch through, there's a running
- 42:13theme of Tilk hitting Mitchell a lot. But I just love the fact that,
- 42:16like just the I think it was the line read more than anything where
- 42:20Cam was just like you even think twice and just the way Tilsa goes I
- 42:23did not as he's walking away. I was like, I get still walking,
- 42:29didn't turn his head. I don't care if you're following me. I'm
- 42:31tilk on a mission with two guns. Bitch, get out of my way.
- 42:34Yeah. And then the only thing I thought was a little bit convenient
- 42:37was the fact that Mitchell became corporeal again or back into had to mension again.
- 42:43Like they're like, oh, we assume it hopefully has a subspace connection.
- 42:47He's like on a different planet on the other side of the world.
- 42:49And then I'm looking at gun. That thing looks like it's made of plastic.
- 42:52I don't believe that it can beam there connections ever thing across the galaxy.
- 42:57I just yeah, And I feel like, wouldn't that wouldn't that be
- 42:59a problem for Merlin because he's like, well, if you think about if
- 43:05he's out of phase or what if you want to call it, goes and
- 43:07does something somewhere, then leaves that thing there out of phase, and then
- 43:10just takes his keyboard and goes to another planet. If he then deactivates it,
- 43:15everything that he's done or all he's there is out like comes back,
- 43:20if you know what I mean. Like, if you think about, like
- 43:22Cam got out of phase on our planet, went to another planet. The
- 43:29keyboard was back on Earth. Yeah, we turned it off. Yeah,
- 43:32and Cam came back. So imagine, imagine comes just on all the walls,
- 43:37is what you're saying. Yeah, basically, so imagine like, Okay,
- 43:40so Merlin's on Earth, he cloaks or goes out of phase a little
- 43:45bit, goes to the planet, does some tests and some stuff and an
- 43:47out of phase thing, that's all out of phase. Yeah, he goes
- 43:52back to Earth, turns the machine off. But wherever he was another planet
- 43:55comes back into this reality as well. So it's like the only the little
- 44:00only thing you could hide from the ancients is the information inside that machine,
- 44:04which you can see but you can see in this reality anyway, no keyboard.
- 44:10Yeah, you can see the device, but you can't see the screen.
- 44:13You only see the screen. Oh, by the way, just to
- 44:17bring up a long running disagreement slash joke with us, did you notice when
- 44:23when they're reading all Ancient the ancient guy Merlin, they're really they're like going
- 44:29through his device and Carter's like, oh, I don't need to know ancient
- 44:31to know what that is. And it's a stargate address. Yeah, with
- 44:36the triangle point of origin. Yeah, the circle. Yeah, well that's
- 44:43Merlin's original home Gate which they brought back. You idiot. I'm really disappointed
- 44:54because I was trying to find them. I never could find it where you
- 44:59said cam Mitchell wanted to be the bait, and so many times in Fastcape,
- 45:05John Crichton was the bait. And my favorite one of all was when
- 45:08he tied a rope to himself and was bait for the alien let's get it
- 45:15tasty human goat and man and he's like mat, yeah, man, he's
- 45:21like whipping his own asks with the exactly that was fully see it was that
- 45:28not a thing on YouTube surely, um if anyone cares the prior that we
- 45:34saw in this episode. Briefly, he was the one that just like turned.
- 45:38He's like done in flashback. He's on the turn, all made into
- 45:40the zombie guy that is Tanat from Prometheus Unbound and the Ties that Bind,
- 45:46the the green alien guy with the green tentacles that was like like a friend
- 45:52of Alas that he um oh yeah, that she was selling quarter too and
- 45:55Unbound. Oh yeah, he was incup. Yeah, like full full green
- 46:00alien with the big the big long um. Star Wars tentacles. So I
- 46:05mean in Cannon, I guess we could maybe believe that it was the same
- 46:09guy that he'd been turned into a prior I mean, that's that's that's some
- 46:15full on priorizing, Like just the tentacles just fell off. Yeah, and
- 46:21maybe they're like the military though whenever, and have the same haircut, you
- 46:23know, you know, in a way completely rearranged his face. Well sure,
- 46:27sure, sure yeah, these big bug eyes, Yeah that's true.
- 46:30Yeah, these big judge being size Yeah, okay, fair enough trans aliens
- 46:34speaking about ancient writings, like surely by now, I think you guys were
- 46:40saying as much a couple of weeks ago, maybe even talking about an episode
- 46:44that was coming up that was this one. I can't remember exactly, but
- 46:46the idea that Carter can't read Agent. Yeah, come on, dude,
- 46:52like in this episode. Yeah remember when remember when Carter and Jacob saved the
- 46:55universe, um last season? Yeah, by them like decoding all the ancient
- 47:00on that wall and turning those little discs and stuff. Like, sure she
- 47:04had notes, but she made like she stayed there all night playing with the
- 47:07thing that she didn't know what she was touching. She's like, I'm just
- 47:09gonna yeah. But she had the computer still connected with Christi's hello through osmosis.
- 47:15You'd think she'd know, Okay, well that button means yes, or
- 47:20that button little that button or that button's a bee or you know whatever.
- 47:22Like I know she did say, I'll look all this stuff's way over my
- 47:25head still. Yeah, I just figured she's a tie. Why you around
- 47:30with it? That would lock herself in the base over a weekend and you'd
- 47:34come back in Monday morning and she would be fluent in She's got the world's
- 47:37best linguist on her team, ya does kind of linguist. Yes, she's
- 47:45got the most cunning linguists. Yeah, and like easily when they got nothing
- 47:52to talk about walking five kilometers to the gap from the gate. Yeah,
- 47:55I guess Daniel that'd be you know, that would be his trigger word you
- 47:59made say hey, Daniel, can you just talk to me like like Mitch,
- 48:04like we've been doing this podcast for seven years. Yeah, like just
- 48:07through osmosis. You know a little bit about Star Trek just because of how
- 48:10much I talk about it, Like you, if I had some questions,
- 48:15you'd be able to answer them, like very basic questions, but you know,
- 48:19character name Like if I showed a picture you have a character, you
- 48:21probably able to name it. You know, things like that get a two
- 48:24out of like an accumulation of things that has happened. It's it's if we
- 48:30want time versus mentions squared. Yeah, I mean we're there. You could
- 48:35bring up fast cap before and that was fine. Yeah. Once this is
- 48:38if I say Crichton three times, cut my mic off. I mean,
- 48:44I will give that's too. He said Crichton at least twice, and I
- 48:47will like the fact that you said I could connect Lincoln two and out of
- 48:52every character in any franchise in the history of cinema or television. You said
- 48:57Janeway. Yeah, like I know, But you just proved my enterprise.
- 49:01You know who Jane Wait is an enterprise. See, you just proved my
- 49:05point. Goldberg, that's play get one. I just earned one back.
- 49:12I just earned one back because Mitchell proved my point. But you didn't.
- 49:15You said Star Trek fifteen times in this pric But he just proved my point.
- 49:20But he I said, Jane Way, and he knew who that was.
- 49:22Agreed, Please proved my point? Do it in post played in reverse
- 49:27I get one back, don't absolutely which needs to agree with that? A
- 49:32button that's tis brothers. And also I found this button for can you say
- 49:37again so Dan slowly please so dadda? I think Lossovich didn't have that ready,
- 49:47haven't got I can emphasize the dan so dan so d d d that
- 49:55was That was till kielling out too. Icon. I actually forgot that was
- 50:00his name, And when I was watching it, I was just watching on
- 50:02my phone, and I swear he's just like Icon. Hang on, the
- 50:07leader's name is Icon? What a boss name. It also reminds me of
- 50:13the last mayble Onne episode where that chick's going arc. I thought you were
- 50:20just going to be like, how ridiculously over the top, like unobtainium?
- 50:23Yeah, yeah, yeah, ridiculously obvious. We need a new substance that's
- 50:29unable to be obtained? What are we going to call it? Cameron's like,
- 50:31give me a weekend. I'll come up with something that, you know,
- 50:35what's unattainable? A good name for that? And what's the new one?
- 50:38In way of water? Impossibly, it can't be. It's idiots.
- 50:43It's not much better, doesn't it come out? It's plus plus on Wednesday.
- 50:51Yeah, yeah, I'll after worry I didn't get to it. Yeah,
- 50:54that's cinema, go check it out. Um what else is out?
- 51:01The Whale? He did watch the Whale? Yeah? I watch it on
- 51:04Netflix. Nice? Stan, stand God, that was almost in time,
- 51:13Stan, I mean great, people used to be better when they had start
- 51:15one. I mean I'm sure they fought tooth and now to keep it,
- 51:19but Bezos had to take it and put it on Amazon. Winker once he
- 51:23give us a new Stargate. Reese was right though, Like opening scene,
- 51:29just giant Brendan Frasier just whacking at the gape hoorn. Awesome. Yeah,
- 51:34that's not that's not a bit like that's that's that's how the that's how the
- 51:37show. That's how the movie opens a gaporn. Yeah, he's the character's
- 51:40gate. Come on, na, duck frad. He does it a lot
- 51:55of chick are you doing the Weasel's the jet doing it? I saw this,
- 52:07I saw this button about It's on my page. I never would it
- 52:09there, but it's there, and I'm like, father, good father.
- 52:13How many minutes for the burrito? Remember? One minute? Remember I used
- 52:15it for when um uh Jackson, when Jack and ye check Seal quick camping.
- 52:22Oh yeah, right, but I was just looking at it going I'm
- 52:25never gonna need that again. Twenty minutes later, there's absolutely a reason.
- 52:31So there you go. Check it out on stand. Let's just kids do
- 52:44it. The music really keep doing a whale. That's the moment where the
- 52:54character says the title of the thing, who are you you? I'm the
- 53:00Whale, I'm George of the Jugicle bitch. Oh man, wow, We'll
- 53:16go check that out. At the end of the next week, we're back
- 53:21the Stargate Atlantis. We had Talking Michael, a great John Travolta film,
- 53:25but also an episode of Stargate Glanis. Oh hang on, listen, this
- 53:30is is that edge hearing? Are you in here? Ed? It's back
- 53:36with a new sal Lego house on a mountain with a gay cowboy. We
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