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AEW Dynamite | 250th Episode Preview · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for ignition with the
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a W fan Hub podcast team. This is Kelson and Alex is away today.
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He may come back sometime during this podcast, but for tonight, it
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looks like it's just me as the host instead of being a co host.
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But anyway, what we're gonna do tonight is we're going to talk about the
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two hundred and fiftieth episode of Dynamite. It's hard to believe that two hundred
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and fifty episodes have already been you know, it just seems like fifty weeks
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ago that we just had the two hundred wah wah Wahway. Well, look,
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I want to get into the matches, no preamble, Let's get into
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the matches. I want to hear your thoughts, the podcast team's thoughts on
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the matches. And we do have a new podcaster with us, and that
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is Red. Why don't you introduce yourself, Red? Thank you for having
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me. Kelson. I weekly reviews of AW Dynamite. I've been to AW
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fans since the beginning. I started watching Dynamite weekly in twenty twenty, and
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I watched it ever since. I'm super excited to join the crew. Thank
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you all for having me. Oh, we're happy to have you. So
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I'm gonna ask this question and Red, I'd like to hear your thoughts first.
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Let me get the My way of answer asking questions is very long winded.
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So I made a poll on the aw fan hub subreddit and on the
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aw fan hub YouTube channel asking who is going to win the International Championship match
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between will Ospray and MGF. Obviously, one of the choices was will Ospray.
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One of the choices was MJF. But a third choice was already on
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there too, and that was a no contest or a time limit draw.
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I kind of group them both together. At the end, I will give
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the results of those polls because we have quite a number of people. Answer
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to Paul, but what do you think? Red? What do you think
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is gonna happen? By night? And the will Ospray at MGF match.
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MJF has a particular flow he likes to use when he's building a program,
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and it's it follows simple story structure. It's rising action cimax falling action solution.
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Right now we're in the rising action where we're reaching the zenith of this
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for MJF. Typically that's like a match on television. People bemoan that he's
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giving away a main event or a pay per view match, and he's probably
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gonna win by using some underhanded method and take that title from Osprey, So
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that that would be my prediction, and I think it'll give Osprey something to
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rustle for at in Wembley at all in, so well, you do think
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that m JF is going to win there in a national title tomorrow night?
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Boy almost said that where it was legible almost, Yeah, I think he
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is. I think he's going to win tomorrow night, and I think Osprey's
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going to his win back it all in, so well, that's what you
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think is destined to happen. What about everybody else it's gonna I think it's
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gonna come down to what they plan to do for all in, I don't
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necessarily think that that. I mean, I could see what Red say happening,
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but I'm not sure that that's going to happen to Tomorrow. It's a
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big enough show to happen on I just don't know if they're going to run
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it back that like that at all in. I agree with Red myself.
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I think Will is better off chasing that title and taking it back from from
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MJF, expectally getting it back when he goes back to his home country.
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It'll be a spectacular Matt, and I think he's gonna use either as five
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head law like he likes to do, or he is going to use that
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ring. Okay, what about you, Dad, what do you see happening?
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Because I do have a follow up question for everybody here. I think
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MJF will use his underhanded ways to win this, and I actually hope that
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he does win because I'd like to see Osprey chase for his title back or
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the title back, and maybe Osprey show us a little bit of his bad
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side, get angry and all fired up, and it will be great.
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If he goes home and beats mj and gets that back, it will be
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all all the much better. So I think MJF will likely win this tomorrow
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night, and it's gonna set up some really good storytelling, and as you
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all know, I love storytelling, so I'm looking forward to it. Well,
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one thing that nobody here mentioned, and it's directly related to what happened
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last week with will Osbury. Remember last week, Will Ospray left to Don
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Kallis family. So Don Kallas and the family, I mean, even Kyle
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Fletcher was looking a little miffed. So do you guys think that the Don
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Kallas family will somehow get involved in this match tomorrow night? I don't think
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it'll be Don Kallis's family. I think it's gonna be Daniel Garcia. Really,
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Okay, that's interesting. I think that if they don't have MVF win
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the title tomorrow night, it's gonna be because he's attacked by Daniel Garcia.
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Because Daniel Garcia he left him beating up pretty good. So well, the
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only thing with Daniel Garcia, you know, and I don't know if you
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guys will agree with this, is that Tony Kahn is well known to have
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a slow burn booking style and Daniel Garcia just left so to be compialescing if
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you will, and maybe it's too soon, and what else does everybody else
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think? Well, maybe Daniel Garcia will come back and he's just that angry,
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but he won't be that healed. And if the Callous family does try
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to intervene, it's possible that Daniel Garcia pop up from somewhere, even not
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at one hundred percent and keep them from, you know, messing with Osprey.
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So I think anything is possible. I think Garcia needs to still that
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meeting a little bit more before he comes back. I have to agree with
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you. Let me throw another name out there. Maybe Redd wants to address
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this. You know, we've talked about Daniel Garcia. What about Ricochet?
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Ooh, I Ricochet may be coming out to help Osprey or well, in
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my in my thought Red is that Don Callus family is going to get involved
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in some way, whether it's the entire group or maybe just Kyle Fletcher,
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maybe it's somebody else TAKESHTA or whatever. You know. Of course attacking will
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Ospray, why not have Ricochet come out the way will Ospray and it's dynamite
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two fifties. So something may happen. I mean, you got to give
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it to Tony Kahn. He does know how to do a special show.
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MJF has been known to solicit the services of other factions and not necessarily align
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himself with them, So it's possible he could have hired Don Callis to come
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help him that. I think that would be maybe something he would do.
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I in terms of Ricochet, I think what I expect to happen. Is
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I think they're gonna pretend like Hologram is Ricochet for a while. That's what
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I would expect, But it's hard to say. I mean, I definitely
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think nothing just canna win clean up with it that way. I don't know
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if anyone's getting inter fear. I mean, he could use the ring,
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he could use brass knuckles, a blow that he could use it for an
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object under The ring doesn't have to come from outside or red. Did you
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see Collision on Saturday night? I did, yes, Well, you know
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that they did say that Hologram is going to debut well this week. They
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didn't say whether it was going to be Dynamite or Collision, but I'm going
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to assume that they meant collision because it seems like Hologram is going to be
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a collision guy. Uh. They may very well make it to where Ricochet
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is teased somewhat as Hologram, but pretty much everybody knows that it's aramis from
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U Triple A. That is that is Hologram. So and I'm excited about
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that because he's a he's a special town. I would personally like to say
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the Arabys or hologram paired with Commander. He's Erbis is a little bit bigger
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than Commander. He's like two inches taller, about maybe fifteen to twenty pounds
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heavier, but they have very similar styles that I am a big Commander fan,
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and he has jobbed so much. He's done, He's done the job
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so much for AW I'd like to see him get a push because he's so
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damn good. I agree, there, Calson, he deserves a push.
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He's very good. You need to see more from him. He's Commander,
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the one who does the rope ju He's the one who does the rope walks
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and does the flippity floppity ship. Yeah, I don't like more power to
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him. Wow, do you have something in sudden No, it's just the
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flippity floppity shit. No, I mean I can see, so that's to
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call it. I guess that's what it's cold. I mean, that's that's
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I guess that's what it is. But the good thing about it is being
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that it is dynamite two fifty. It is something that is I think most
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of the matches have a little bit of uncertainty to them, so well,
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No, I'm just saying that. That's why there's there's so many different things
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that could happen in this match. You know, you could there's like we
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we said, you know, maybe ricosiate come out and help. You've got
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Don Callus maybe coming out. Maybe Don Callous will show up before the show,
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before the match and try to make it look like he's working with MJF.
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Who knows. I mean, that's the really awesome thing about tomorrow night.
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It's gonna be one of those shows. Maybe it's just a draw,
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time limit draw. Well, let's let's delve into the results of the polls
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that we did on YouTube and and Reddit. When it comes to picking the
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winner between MJF and Will Osprey was dead even it was fifty to fifty.
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It fluctuated a little bit. It may be fluctuated now, but as of
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beginning of this podcast, it was dead heat. But those two only got
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thirty three percent of the vote. Sixty six percent of the people that voted
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said it was going to end up in a no contest or draw. So
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I think people were either expecting a time limit draw or some kind of outside
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interference. That means that this batch ends in a no contest, which I
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think is interesting because that's what's expected. Let's see what Tony Kahan has up
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his sleeve. So let's I mean, I want to move on now because
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we have a couple of really interesting things going on here. We have swer
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Strickland versus and I know I say it wrong, but I have so much
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fun saying it that I gotta say it the way I say it. Kazu
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Chica Okata bitch? Did I say bitch out loud? Oh? Man?
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Wow, Wow, you've bet up this podcast for all these munch and you're
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surprised. No, it's not that. It's just that the bitch has infiltrated
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our podcast and now it's being said every week. He's gotten to you.
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Man, Well, look at my break capacity. This is true. This
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is true. Don't agree with them, don't agree with me, So go
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ahead and that save me. Where there's wrestling fans everywhere. Like I meet
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a wrestling fan at work in a doorway, I say can I help you?
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So? Or somebody opens the door for me, I say, can
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I help you? So? It's not just the bitch. I'm glad somebody
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doesn't hold the door open to you. As you walk by, you say
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bitch. But anyway, that's this is a champion versus champion match, but
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there's no belt or anything up for grabs here, so it's more like a
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battle for pride. What do you do? Do you have any idea?
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What's something's got to give in this match? I mean, there's got to
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be a purpose behind it. Obviously, swear Strickland did you know, put
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his name in the hat as part of Team A W four Blooded Guts,
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which is next week, isn't it? And so obviously we're gonna probably get
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some kind of interference between Elite and maybe somebody else comes out to confront the
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Elite when they come out to confront Swerve Strickland and possibly Mark Briscoe at the
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same time, and they declare for Team A. W uh, Because Team
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Elite has already filled out, we still got what two empty slots, well
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three technically, but I think everybody kind of expects Darbi Alla to be to
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be one of them. So what are you guys thinking about this match?
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I mean it seems to be like the purpose of this match is just to
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set up blood and Guts. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I was
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gonna say the same thing. I'm assuming Darby will come out because it's two
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fifty. He'll be there. The Cleian haven't aligned with this yet. For
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Blood and Guts, they not officially. Okay, not officially because I wouldn't
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see them not being in it since it's the tag. Well yeah, because
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of the tag titles. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting. I think
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it'll be a hell of a match if it goes to the distance. And
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I don't know. A Car hasn't lost yet, has he? I don't
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believe, so this will be his first loss. I think it'll be his
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first loss. I think this is gonna end up in a brawl. They're
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all going to try to uh, they at least gonna try to keep their
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way into winning it. I don't see a purpose of having Ocauda's first loss
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be on a regular Dynamite. I think his first loss needs to be in
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a pay per view and be in a big way. So I'm wondering who's
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going to be on Team a W I know, I thought I saw where
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SDR was back, so I don't know who's all joining. I know Darby,
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But then if they do that, it's just going to be a remix
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of what they had last time, so I was hoping for new people,
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So I don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah, I mean, do you
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claim who have thrown their ring? You know their hat in the ring.
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But now FTR is back? Who would you rather see? MKA? Would
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you rather see FDR in this match with you know, meaning blood guts?
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Or would you rather see do you claim I would rather see they claimed?
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I love FDR, don't get me wrong, but I've seen f tr rthy
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jumbucks so many times that I want to beat my head against the wall,
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So I think the faces in there would help. What about you, Red?
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Would you rather see f t R? Would you rather see the Acclaimed
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in this match? And what are your thoughts on this match? Definitely rather
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see the Acclaimed? I think you know shy have Mark Briscoll obviously. I
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think we all expect Darby to join again sort of kind of a new team
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a W or all younger wrestlers other than Mark Briscoe, who you know.
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I mean, he's new to a new ished a W I suppose, right,
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but I think you know you expect to see people swerve his wrestled with
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before he's worked with the Acclaimed, He's worked with Darby Allen, so I
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think it would fit for the sort of story arc he's been going on.
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In terms of the match this week against Okada, I think Darren belts on
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the line, so you'd think that that means Okada might win. That's I
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think what conventional booking would say. Tony Kinson always a conventional booker, but
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I think it's probably more likely this ends. Uh, this match is thrown
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out. It's going to become a fuster cluck if they claims you're going to
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come in. I think the young bucks are going to come in the ring.
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I think Jack Perry is going to enter the ring. I think Darby's
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going to enter the ring and probably hang in in. Mark Briscoe, uh,
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and Richter, don't forget Cindy there you go? Yeah, yeah,
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I mean that. What are your thoughts? I don't know. I think
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that as far as Swear been Okada go, I'm I don't know where I
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am with that one. I really don't know who's gonna win there. I
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mean, I like them both, but I don't know. I kind of
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think that Swerve might come out ahead and that they're saving Ocada's, like someone
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else said, saving Ocada's loss for somewhere down the line or I don't know,
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but I think with the with the Young Bucks that they are probably planning
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some kind of big, ridiculous celebration considering, you know, they haven't really
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celebrated their belts and maybe when they're you know, coming out there and talking
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about themselves, they'll get jumped by either FTR or more than likely the Acclaimed.
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I would rather see them and the Acclaim go head ahead. I'm very
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tired of FTR at this point. I think Darby Allen is gonna get involved,
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and that's gonna make Jack Perry get involved. So I don't know.
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It leaves me with a lot of questions. I'm just looking forward to it
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to see what happens. Yeah, I'm surprised that they didn't announce Jack Perry
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versus Darby Allen match for tomorrow night. I do want to move on because
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we've got more champions and matches. We've got Mercedes Monett, who's this two
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belts right now against forber aw Women's World Champion Nyla Rose. Now, the
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TBS title is up for grabs on this match, and that's the only title
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that's up for grabs in this match, and you know what, I haven't
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seen it out on it. It would make perfect sense for Nyla Rose to
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win this match. But then again, for me, it made perfect sense
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for me to sheer Kawa to win her match at Forbidden Door. That didn't
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happen. But it does make sense that Nyla Rose can win this belt,
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and I actually would like to see that happy because as everybody knows, I
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am not a fan of a wrestler holding two belts. I really am not,
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and Nyla Rose would be a terrific a w TBS champion. What do
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you guys think about that? I miss Nyla Rose. I'm not gonna lie.
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Uh. He's fantastic face. Uh, fantastic deal. He makes me
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laugh quite a bit. And I don't think the Britt Baker uh Monette needs
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a title belt and balld, so I think that could be a benefactor to
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a benefit to Nyla and maybe have h Britt Helper out and win. I
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don't I don't know, very unlikely to me that she probably will win,
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but I would have no problem with Nyla winning go ahead. In all honesty,
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I really don't see now how Nila loses this match because she is.
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To me, she's such a better wrestler than Mercedes is. And I've said
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it before and I'm not going to keep saying it, but it makes no
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sense for for for Mercedes to win a match that she's out matched. She
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doesn't have the power. There's there's absolutely no she has no way of defending
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against now the power, and it would be nice to see now to win
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the title. And we have a wild Alex just arrived at the chat.
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How you doing, Alex? Yeah? Great, I arrived perfect time to
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hear Elf trashing Mercedes on that I it's literally been doing it for the last
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half hour. I'm glad you came here to shut them up. Anyway.
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I thought that was being nice because you know, even though we normally don't
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do this, because it's died of my two fifty. We are going through
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the matches. You've already talked about the swer Strickland and Cousin Chico Kata match,
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We've already talked about the NJAF and Will Osprey match. We are currently
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talking about the Mercedes Monet and Nyla Rose match, and Alex, I'll just
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throw it to you. Do you see any chance whatsoever of it's for the
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TBS Championship only. Do you see any chance whatsoever Nyla Rose walking out of
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this match with the TBS belt tomorrow night. No, I think there's like
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a zero percent chance. I like Nyla, She's a lot of fun,
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but yeah, it seems like they don't really care about her. They don't
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feature her. She gets she shows up every few months on TV, it
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seems, and loses a match or wins the match, and then loses a
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title match right after. Yeah, I think there's zero percent chance in Nyla
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winning here. Does anybody else have any opinions on this? I guess not,
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So let's us move on. I'll just take care of this entire segment.
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Alex, you can kind of look and see what you want to talk
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about next. Let's move on to the Mariah May speaks. I mean,
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we just had. As Alex said last week, he gave him chills what
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happened at the end of Dynamite last week, and now we're finally going to
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hear from Mariah May. I hope that Mariah May comes out and only Mariah
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May comes out, because I really want to hear Mariah May talk. I
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want to see what she can do. I want to hear what she can
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do. I want to see we already know she makes great faces and she
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gives good bosom. So what do you expect? What do you want to
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see from Mariah May tomorrow night? I think yeah, like exactly like you
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said, I don't want it in like her starting to speak and Tony Storm
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comes out. You want to see a good five to ten minutes of Mariah
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May just telling us why she did what she did, laying out her evil
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plan. Yeah, I'm really excited for this. This is was such a
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great way to end Last Dynamite, and I think this, even with the
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awesome matches that we're getting tomorrow, this is kind of what I'm most excited
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to see. Really, Okay, fair enough, Yeah, I think it'll
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be interested. Go ahead, Okay, So I'm interested in seeing where Mina
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Shirkkawa place in this, if she was helped behind it, or if she
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or if she stands with Tony a little bit and she's surprise. I know
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on Twitter she well or one of the platform she was surprised by it.
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But I want I want Mariah's pet fire basically and say why she did it?
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You know, the old villain, the old villain soliloqually type thing,
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and she really needs to stand out and I think she has and I think
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she could. Yeah, she does a great promo. I think she's well
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on her way to being World Women's Champion. There's there's no stopping here at
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this point. It's her to lose. She has the momentum, right,
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but what do you got? Yeah, so you know, I expect her
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to come out do all that, and then you know, Tony is gonna
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come out tomorrow night. Hopefully we can get it a good ten minutes,
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but she's got to come out. But it'll be interesting to see what she
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looks like when she comes out. Is she gonna be stitched up? Is
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she gonna be wearing a bandage? Is this going to affect her demeanor?
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Is she gonna start down that dark path to the darkness that we all expect
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her to in the end. So, I mean it's gonna be a very
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interesting thing. It's one of the ones that I'm looking forward to tomorrow too.
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Well, right, what do you expect from Ariah May tomorrow night?
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How do you expect Tony Storm to also show up? Or do you think
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it'd be better. Maria Age was alone oftentimes in wrestling, less is more,
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so I think you just you let her go out there five to ten
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minutes, let the segment breathe, let her live on its own, let
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her explain her motives, what she's been doing, why she's been doing it,
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and obviously the end goal is all in, so address that. And
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I think, you know, we have I think six more episodes of Dynamite
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after two fifty until all in. That's plenty of time to grow in Mina
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Shirkawa, let Tony Storm respond and go on from there. So I hope
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she comes out tomorrow and has her moment five ten minutes and gets to just
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got a great promo because she's capable of doing that. Red. There was
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a question that I asked last week on the podcast, and I want to
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present it to you because you weren't here last week, and I want to
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see what your thoughts are on this. Mariah May has Mina Shirakawa in her
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corner. I really believe that. I don't think that that is going away.
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I think Mina Shrikala will be in Mariah May's corner as her friend.
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Who does Tony Storm have? Do you see anybody coming to Tony Storm's a
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not even physically, but even as just a motivation. No, I don't,
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because Tony Storm has made nothing but enemies, whether that's Thunderosa when they
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were friends, whether that's the outcasts. Uh, She's made nothing but enemies.
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And I think she's only trajectory and has been that. She's a starlet,
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and I think the Crash is going to be as great as the Rise
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was, and I think I do expect her to lose that title, and
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I think that she's going to be alone, and I think we're going to
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see her evolve into someone who's even crazier than she's been so far. And
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I think it's going to be great. Right, Yeah, we're all looking
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forward to the meltdown, which I think is inevitably coming. Matt, what
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do you think on this? What are you looking forward to Mariah May doing
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tomorrow night. I'm looking forward to her explaining why she did what she did
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and talking about where she is going to go from here. Is she just
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going to be more censored on herself? Does she plan on joining Mira and
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becoming you know, women's team partners? But I I mostly want to hear
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why she did what she did, and and why she chose that moment to
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do that to Tony because there were a couple of other times where I thought
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that she might turn on Tony and she didn't. So I was starting to
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get the feeling that she was never going to and I was surprised that she
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actually did it. So I'd like to hear about the why and the how.
30:29
And I also would like her maybe to just go wild and threatened Nigel's
30:36
life once and for all. So, oh that would be sweet. The
30:41
threatened Nigel. We don't want Yes, I'm the biggest. Well, this
30:52
will get him involved in a story. Yeah, see, it'll be good
30:56
for us all and the versus Nigel will get Mariah May versus Nigel all out.
31:03
Oh god. But look, so there's only one section segment left in
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uh Dynamite, and we'll just briefly cover that, and that is the learning
31:15
Tree. Sorry, guys, that's the end of the segment. We've got
31:22
to move on. That was the horn, Alex, what do you want
31:26
to talk about next? Oh? Man, that was the last segment.
31:32
I can see. Well, no, Darby Allen promised that he had something
31:40
planned for Jack Perry and the elite. I guess that segment. Yeah,
31:45
we already talked about. Okay, so the Learning Tree. Yeah, I
31:49
just hope book somehow is not involved. But I don't know. I don't
31:55
have a lot to say. I do like the Learning Tree, but I
32:00
just want them to be doing different things instead of the FTW hook Taz drama.
32:07
Yeah, but if it is another reason to keep Taz off commentary and
32:10
replace him with Nigel another week, I'm all for that. No for goes
32:19
off again. Oh gosh, anybody else have anything to say about the Learning
32:23
Tree? I was I thought it was cool how they how they took out
32:30
Samoa Joe and a nice way for him to go do his twisted metal stuff
32:34
again. It's a good segment. I just once again, I want to
32:38
er annoy that I'm tired of the FTWI belt and hook not needed again.
32:45
They need to find a way to get rid of it and make I don't.
32:50
I just don't like the belt. I never have and it's a waste
32:52
of time to me. Wow. Yeah, anybody anybody here to like the
33:00
FDW belt? I mean, Red, We've not heard from your your thoughts
33:02
on the FDW belt. I think it's kind of safe to say that we're
33:07
not like you don't. Some of us may not hate it, but some
33:10
of us don't think it belongs. I guess the title doesn't mean anything unless
33:17
it's being used effectively and being held by someone who's doing great things with it.
33:22
I think when Ricky Starks had it, it was I'm not going to
33:24
say prestigious, but it was interesting because it gave him a good reason to
33:30
wrestle good opponents. I fortunately, while I love Hook and I love his
33:37
character in the way he's portrayed, he's not the best inn ring worker.
33:42
He's very limited. He's got like five moves that cannot be used in rapid
33:47
succession, so it's hard for him because he can only work with so many
33:52
guys, and often he's been putting on rampage and things like that. So
33:58
I don't know if Jericho's the that I would have hold it because he's pediatric,
34:05
but he's not gonna. I'm not gonna say we should throw it in
34:08
the garbage, because I think it could be used effectively. I think if
34:12
someone got it and said that this is a world title and tried to make
34:15
it seem like it was important, that'd be interesting. But mm hmm,
34:21
anybody that could do that. Okay, I said, isn't that what Jeric
34:27
was trying to do is make it a little more relevant? I mean no,
34:30
no, not at all. He's making fun of it, I think
34:37
more than he's made than he's trying to make it relevant. But I don't
34:39
know. There's a bunch of guys I could think that they could do Wonders
34:44
with that title, and and I kind of agree with Red. It was
34:50
great back before Hook got involved with it, and then that kind of it
34:54
kind of dimmed it down and took away from its momentum. I have no
35:00
with the FTW belt as long as it's on somebody that can use it.
35:04
I would like to see someone like big Bill maybe get it and then have
35:09
him go up against some of the bigger guys that aren't really being used a
35:15
lot. The only way that I think that the FTW bell could be relevant
35:20
is we put it on MJF and that would be stupid. So I I
35:28
kind of like it as the trash like not trash, but it's like it
35:31
is the lowest wrong belt that there's a place for that. It's always hardcore
35:37
matches. That's fine, it's just just it just has to be Hook and
35:46
Taz and them involved in it so much as that's what I don't like about
35:51
it, Like, if they were going to get rid of a belt,
35:53
I would rather one of like the Internet International or Continental. Those seemed kind
36:00
of redundant at least the FTW belts just the hardcore low cart belt. Well,
36:08
we're Alex. Let's let's move on. I know that you had a
36:13
topic that you had said that you wanted to talk about, So let's talk
36:15
about that. What do you have Forrest Bell? Yeah? So Willow Nightingale
36:21
is the new CML Women's Champion, and it's pretty wild that she kind of
36:30
came out of nowhere to do that, being as that we saw Stephanie Vacour
36:37
I think just two or three weeks ago on Forbidden Door she was the champion,
36:42
she had a match against Mercedes Monet and now and we discussed i think
36:47
last week at one of our podcasts about her potentially joining aw Now we know
36:52
that's not the case. She's joined WWE, and there was a lot of
36:58
drama around that because how it happened, and I know there's there's definitely been
37:05
some backlash towards Stephanie Vacour from CMLL in New Japan for not leaving on the
37:12
best of terms. But then there's also this all this drama with Stephanie Vacour,
37:19
And I know I'm brutalizing her name. I think I've heard of say
37:22
it said many different ways. Yeah, and I know I'm not doing it
37:29
right, but probably not the worst rendition anyways. So she left CMLL not
37:36
on the best terms, but there's also all this drama with her, an
37:40
abuse of X who's now in jail in Mexico, who was an ex CMLL
37:45
wrestler. He has friends in CMLL, his friends even in AEW that we
37:51
know of. So it's tough to blame Stephanie Vakour for leaving CMLL, knowing
37:58
that there's probably a lot of backstage tension and maybe it's a toxic environment for
38:05
her. So the fact that she wanted to get out of there quickly,
38:08
I don't think we know enough to get upset with her for maybe handling things
38:15
that way. And now she's joined WWE, so I'm happy for her.
38:20
And it's also nice that AEW is able to lend out Willow Nightingale in this
38:27
situation and help them out and give them someone at last minute to carry that
38:36
title in the interim. Yeah, because well, if you look at the
38:39
CML roster to women's roster, they really don't have a huge women's roster and
38:49
so and when you look especially when you look at it with the New Japan
38:54
women's roster, because New Japan of course also own stardom, so they've got
39:00
that huge and talented starting roster with them. But CMLL is hurting just like
39:07
New Japan's men's roster. I wouldn't say it's hurting, but they're nowhere near
39:13
as solid as they were in the past. So it's interesting to see.
39:21
I'm really interested to see how Willow Nightingale is handled, how long she holds
39:27
the title, and if like CMLL, wrestlers come to AW to challenge Willow,
39:35
and if Willow goes to CMLL. And we've already seen Willow go to
39:38
Japan fairly recently, like three or four weeks ago, so could she go
39:43
to Japan and defend the cm CMLL title there Because CMLL and New Japan also
39:51
have somewhat of a good partnership going through AW, so this could really help
39:57
CMLL. James Notoriety in their women's division. Yeah, and to mention,
40:05
like, we've seen aw stock up on a bunch of men's free agents,
40:10
but we've also seen Stephanie Vcour and Julia recently sign with WWE, So they've
40:17
really been stalking up on the high end women's free agents. Right. Having
40:22
Willow with this belt, it's like, you know, now New Japan,
40:27
CMLL AW the women's division can all team up to make those divisions stronger,
40:34
just like you were saying. So it's interesting. It is like an arms
40:37
race on either side. Does anybody else have anything to say about the Willow
40:45
Nightingale with the CMLL title. I'm hold my tongue on this one. Nobody
40:54
anyone, But the only thing I can say is is I have no problem
41:01
with what the record chose to do. That's on her and that's nothing to
41:07
do with what happened. As for the use of these the people that have
41:14
gone to WWE's Julia hasn't been used very much. Well, she spent injured.
41:20
She just had batch back from injury this past week, okay, So
41:27
hopefully hopefully they'll use them better than because to me, the WWE's women's division
41:31
is not even close to the aw one. Well, that's arguable. Yeah,
41:37
I always I feel like their women's division is strong. Well, the
41:40
thing about it is they have well I guess Tony Conston is too, but
41:45
they have like four women that get all of the stuff. They get all
41:50
the matches on the main show. They may have a better one in NXT,
41:53
but it's not it's not the same thing. But again with Mercedes,
41:59
she can't from there. And like I always say, she has impressed me
42:04
as much as a W W E trained woman as it would be impressive in
42:07
the A A W the a W roster. I just she's not that impressive
42:13
to me. She's not here we go with some just we're talking about Willow
42:19
and all of a sudden with Willow. With Willow, she's been getting shoved
42:24
down everybody's throat lately. She's been given all these matches and I get that
42:30
that that they want her to be a star, but I just don't see
42:34
her that way. Well, the one thing that you have to give to
42:38
Willow, and I don't know if everybody else will agree with me on this,
42:40
is Willow has a tremendous worth work ethic. I was very vocal about
42:45
this when Willow was gearing up to her for her match with Julia Hart because
42:54
Willow seemed like she was getting gassed really really early in her matches, and
43:00
she has not been that way for several months now. So Willow has done
43:07
the work, and it's noticeable to me anyway, because she's able to have
43:12
a consistent match throughout the matches now and she's good. I mean, look,
43:19
we all know that everybody has different tastes. You know. There are
43:22
wrestlers that people like that I don't particularly care for Eddie k. Yeah,
43:31
and there are people that get paid a lot of money that Sutton doesn't like,
43:37
you know, Mercedes Bonet, and there are people and there are people
43:42
that everybody loves universally. Of course I'm talking about Sir Petico and you know,
43:51
and I just thought, I'm still waiting for Tony conn the book.
43:55
Sir Peteco all in, you know, should instead of zero hour zero Hour
44:06
Battle Royalit, Yeah, come out every big match and do his little finger
44:10
thing with the the Confettian just set it all off. Yeah, that they
44:17
should open the show with Sir Pentago every every week, but that would tick
44:22
off orgs Cassidy at John Moxley to no end, because I think they're contractually
44:27
obligated to share the opening match or opening segment in ninety percent of the shows.
44:32
So anyway, get him a great theme song? Be it all weird?
44:40
Well, I think Jane is available now. That would be very confusing.
44:47
Sir Pentico is very confusing to begin with these, John Cruise and Sir
44:52
Petico. Hey, you know what, his partner might be back soon,
44:54
because if if our women's champion goes off the deep ense, she might just
45:01
fire him, and Sir Pentacon might have his long lost buddy back. I
45:07
don't know. Poor Luther, Yeah, Luther, Luther. Luther is the
45:12
best butler on TV right now. You have to say wow. But anyway,
45:20
I digress. Does anybody else have anything to say about Willow Nightingales run
45:27
as a CMLL Women's World Champion? I'm sorry, I hope she gets to
45:38
work with thunder Rosa, who's expressed a lot of interest in working at CMLL.
45:45
When do you say work with thun Rosa? Do you mean as maybe
45:49
you know, versus thunder Rosa, or as a tag team partner with thunder
45:52
Rossa. Oh no, against thunder Rosa for the title. I was kind
45:58
of amazed that thunder Rossa was not the one to go to CMLL. I
46:06
mean, well, that's kind of a stereotypical thing to say, but maybe
46:12
they have bigger plans for a thunder Rosa. She's mentioned that she wants to
46:19
work in CMLL, something she's expressed interest in uh this year, and I
46:24
can't imagine they have answer her to be in a title picture. But I
46:30
could be wrong. Maybe she'll work with Maria made Well, you never know,
46:34
could have been visa issues even true true, you know, you just
46:38
never know. But anyway, you know what, I think that's gonna be
46:43
offered, and I think we'll wrap it up on that note. So you
46:49
know, glad that Alex got to get in here for a little bit red.
46:52
We loved having you, and uh, we will see you tomorrow night
46:55
for all the talk right after Dynamite. We're gonna see if any of the
47:00
stuff that we talked about for Dynamites two hundred and fifty episode actually comes true.
47:05
See who's been who is right in some of the things we said,
47:08
and who was way off? And of course when I say who is way
47:12
off, I am talking of course about myself, because when it comes to
47:16
predicting anything that has to do with wrestling. I am the worst. No
47:22
no, no, no, no, You're not worse than your buddy.
47:29
They can't pick the women's well, yeah, what ration binds picks a woman's
47:32
match? You just know who's gonna win because the opposite uh is have they
47:37
have they have they Nason over run tonight Tomorrow night. Yet it just seems
47:43
like they don't even have to announce it anymore. It's just gonna happen.
47:45
It's inevitable. I'm assuming that, I'm assuming that the Osprey uh I've caught
47:52
a match will be the final match there, Osprey and I caught a word
47:58
match will be the final man. I would assume that, you know,
48:04
I mean, yeah, although it could be Mercedes and Nyla Rose. If
48:09
Mercedes and Nyla Rose is the final match, then something's gotta happen. So
48:15
I'm just interested to see if, like there's got there's not that many matches
48:22
or segments already announced for Tomorrow night. I think we're gonna see some surprises
48:27
tomorrow night. So hold on to your hats, you know. That's all
48:30
I can say. I mean, it's gonna be an interesting night tomorrow night.
48:32
I can't wait but watch tomorrow night. I can't wait to do all
48:37
Lee Talk with everybody tomorrow night because I have a feeling we're gonna have a
48:40
lot to talk about tomorrow night after Dynamite. So for all Leak talk,
48:50
for all he talk, for Ignition and the aw fan Hub podcast team,
48:57
this is Kelson. H. Good night, everybody, Goodbye everyone, good
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night, good night. H.