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- 0:00Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell was very evasive in her deposition. That was
- 0:05Speaker 1: to be expected. Did anyone really think that she was
- 0:08Speaker 1: going to get up there and incriminate herself? In her hubris,
- 0:14Speaker 1: in her arrogance, she never thought that she was ever
- 0:17Speaker 1: going to have to answer for lying in that deposition.
- 0:21Speaker 1: She never took it serious. Look at the way she
- 0:23Speaker 1: referred to Virginia throughout that deposition. Look at the way
- 0:29Speaker 1: she got angry and smashed her hand down on the table.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Look at the way she went about answering these questions.
- 0:38Speaker 1: So she was never going to be up front. She
- 0:44Speaker 1: was never going to tell the truth here. But it's
- 0:49Speaker 1: a huge piece to the puzzle, right? Her own words
- 0:55Speaker 1: denying all of the things that we have tons of
- 0:59Speaker 1: circumstantial evidence for. And if we have circumstantial evidence for it,
- 1:04Speaker 1: how much evidence do you think the federal government has compiled?
- 1:10Speaker 1: And the people who were named in this deposition are
- 1:14Speaker 1: people that are names that have been thrown around in
- 1:18Speaker 1: this case for quite some time. Like I said, I
- 1:20Speaker 1: was not expecting any bombshells, but with the deposition out,
- 1:27Speaker 1: things like this article we're going to read tonight begin
- 1:31Speaker 1: to occur. And I think it's important that these kind
- 1:35Speaker 1: of outlets like Business Insider talk about Les Wexner and
- 1:40Speaker 1: the relationship he had with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.
- 1:45Speaker 1: It's something that is not talked about nearly enough. Now,
- 1:50Speaker 1: I'm not one of these people that's going to run around.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I don't think that Wexner was in charge of the
- 1:54Speaker 1: whole thing or anything like that. but he was certainly
- 1:57Speaker 1: part of it. He was most certainly an enabler and
- 2:00Speaker 1: he most certainly was financing the operation. And he had
- 2:06Speaker 1: a lot of friends who were in intelligence as well.
- 2:10Speaker 1: So when I look at Les Wexner in the grand scheme,
- 2:16Speaker 1: the big picture of this thing, he is definitely one
- 2:19Speaker 1: of the key financiers of Jeffrey Epstein. That is without
- 2:23Speaker 1: a doubt. He was one of the main people to
- 2:27Speaker 1: get Jeffrey Epstein up and going, one of the main
- 2:30Speaker 1: people to fund this decades-long crime spree. He was very much,
- 2:39Speaker 1: very much involved with Jeffrey Epstein personally, and he is
- 2:44Speaker 1: somebody who has intricate knowledge of what was going on.
- 2:51Speaker 1: And that's just going on the circumstantial evidence that we have.
- 2:56Speaker 1: I haven't even brought up the fact that he is
- 2:59Speaker 1: also being credibly accused of partaking in the abuse himself.
- 3:05Speaker 1: So Les Wexner is a figure that definitely needs to
- 3:09Speaker 1: be aired out. Definitely needs to answer some really hard questions.
- 3:14Speaker 1: And he is somebody who most certainly was in the
- 3:19Speaker 1: upper atmosphere... Of Jeffrey Epstein's circle. Very powerful man. Very
- 3:26Speaker 1: well connected. Here and abroad. And somebody. Who just thought that.
- 3:34Speaker 1: Out of the blue. Jeffrey Epstein would be a good investment.
- 3:38Speaker 1: That Jeffrey Epstein. This college dropout. Would be the kind
- 3:42Speaker 1: of guy. That you want to give. Complete power of
- 3:46Speaker 1: attorney to. Well that's what Les Wexner did. And just
- 3:51Speaker 1: like with Leon Black. I am hard pressed to believe.
- 3:56Speaker 1: That of all the people. That Les Wexner. Could entrust
- 4:01Speaker 1: his money to. His companies to. His life to basically.
- 4:06Speaker 1: He would choose Jeffrey Epstein. It's not because they were
- 4:10Speaker 1: such good friends. It was about the business. It was
- 4:15Speaker 1: about moving things forward. And all of these people. That
- 4:20Speaker 1: were in Jeffrey Epstein's close atmosphere. In my opinion. All
- 4:24Speaker 1: had their part to play. Be it Bagman. Be it Gopher.
- 4:30Speaker 1: And Paper Pusher. Like Indyk. Or be it one of
- 4:35Speaker 1: the core four. And their roles. Within the criminal enterprise.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Everybody had a role to play. That was around Epstein.
- 4:45Speaker 1: And Maxwell. And Wexner played his role. To a tee.
- 4:51Speaker 1: So let's jump into this article by the Business Insider
- 4:55Speaker 1: and talk a little bit more about Les Wexner. Headline,
- 5:00Speaker 1: unsealed Ghislaine Maxwell deposition appears to show attorneys questioning Jeffrey
- 5:05Speaker 1: Epstein's mysterious relationship with Victoria's Secret founder, Les Wexner. And
- 5:12Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything too mysterious about it at
- 5:14Speaker 1: this point, right? I mean, we don't have all of
- 5:18Speaker 1: the details, but I think enough... of the story has
- 5:23Speaker 1: been written here in front of our faces for us
- 5:25Speaker 1: to understand that these dudes were deeply connected these dudes
- 5:30Speaker 1: were very close the townhouse the keys to the kingdom
- 5:39Speaker 1: the ability to use Victoria's Secret as a carrot to
- 5:43Speaker 1: get girls into positions where they're vulnerable so he could
- 5:48Speaker 1: take advantage of them all of this was done Because
- 5:52Speaker 1: Les Wexner allowed it... All of this was done... Because
- 5:56Speaker 1: Les Wexner... Enabled Jeffrey Epstein's behavior... This article... Was authored...
- 6:05Speaker 1: By Kate Taylor... Attorneys appeared to probe... Jeffrey Epstein's relationship...
- 6:12Speaker 1: With Victoria's Secret founder... Les Wexner... In a deposition of
- 6:15Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell... Which was unsealed on Thursday... So... I'm sure
- 6:21Speaker 1: most of you have read the unsealed documents by now.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I put two and two together and understand obviously who
- 6:29Speaker 1: they're talking about when they're mentioning Les Wexner in that deposition.
- 6:34Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious. And the relationship between Wexner and Jeffrey
- 6:44Speaker 1: Epstein is one of the most least explored aspects of
- 6:48Speaker 1: this case, in my opinion. The legacy media has not
- 6:51Speaker 1: done Nothing, nothing in regards to uncovering the truth of
- 6:57Speaker 1: this relationship. The deposition of Maxwell, Epstein's confidant, co-conspirator, fellow
- 7:05Speaker 1: child abuser, general all-around scuzzbag and bipedal serpent, is linked
- 7:10Speaker 1: to a since-settled civil case that was brought against her
- 7:13Speaker 1: by Virginia Roberts. Roberts accused Maxwell of aiding Epstein in
- 7:18Speaker 1: trafficking her for sex with rich and powerful men, including
- 7:23Speaker 1: Epstein himself. And those accusations sure look like they're pretty strong, huh?
- 7:30Speaker 1: If you needed any more prodding to think that Virginia
- 7:35Speaker 1: was telling the truth, well, all you have to do
- 7:38Speaker 1: is read the deposition and then decide for yourself why
- 7:42Speaker 1: prosecutors would bring those charges... If Virginia was lying in
- 7:46Speaker 1: that deposition. It just. That doesn't make sense. The prosecutors
- 7:51Speaker 1: don't do that kind of thing. They have to really believe.
- 7:56Speaker 1: They're going to get a conviction. If they're going to
- 7:58Speaker 1: go after people like this. And they obviously believe. That
- 8:01Speaker 1: they have a very strong case. And two of the
- 8:05Speaker 1: hold charges. That we have her. Under right now. Well
- 8:09Speaker 1: two of those are because of. A direct result. of
- 8:13Speaker 1: her being dishonest in this deposition or the prosecution believing
- 8:19Speaker 1: that Virginia's story was authentic and Ghislaine Maxwell's story was fugazi.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Wexner's relationship with Epstein has been under the microscope since
- 8:31Speaker 1: Epstein's arrest in July 2019. Well, under the microscope by
- 8:36Speaker 1: independent content creators and people who are interested in the case,
- 8:41Speaker 1: investigative journalists, but not by the legacy media. Have they
- 8:45Speaker 1: done a full court blitz? Have they done a full
- 8:48Speaker 1: court press? I mean, of course not. We haven't seen
- 8:52Speaker 1: somebody chase down Wexner and demand answers. In fact, we
- 8:55Speaker 1: saw a few puff pieces written about him. So I
- 9:00Speaker 1: don't know under the microscope, I think that's going a
- 9:03Speaker 1: little bit too far considering we haven't seen a real
- 9:06Speaker 1: expose on the guy yet. The deposition appears to indicate
- 9:11Speaker 1: that lawyers were probing the relationship between Wexner and Epstein
- 9:15Speaker 1: in 2016. Yeah, of course. Definitely. Everybody knew what sort
- 9:22Speaker 1: of role Wexner played. At the very least, everybody understood
- 9:25Speaker 1: that he was enabling Jeffrey Epstein's behavior and enabling these
- 9:30Speaker 1: crimes because he was financing him, was basically bankrolling this
- 9:35Speaker 1: whole thing, him and Robert Maxwell. And that's certainly what
- 9:39Speaker 1: my opinion of it is, that it was Robert Maxwell
- 9:42Speaker 1: and Les Wexner were the main bankrollers of Jeffrey Epstein.
- 9:47Speaker 1: And if a real investigation was underway, and if they
- 9:53Speaker 1: really wanted to get to the bottom of all of
- 9:56Speaker 1: this and really shatter this at the nexus... they'd be
- 10:00Speaker 1: going after People like this. They'd be looking into Wexner
- 10:04Speaker 1: with a team of forensic accountants. And again, they might be.
- 10:08Speaker 1: I don't know. None of us do, right? Anyone who
- 10:10Speaker 1: says they do, who isn't directly involved in the case
- 10:14Speaker 1: on the prosecution side, really is probably lying to you
- 10:18Speaker 1: unless they have a good source, which is possible. But
- 10:21Speaker 1: for the most part, nobody knows who those sealed indictments are.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Nobody knows who's going to be next. But if everything
- 10:29Speaker 1: was fair... And they really wanted to prove that it's
- 10:33Speaker 1: about justice and not about letting the rich get off again. Well,
- 10:38Speaker 1: people like Wexner and Black and Dubin and the rest
- 10:41Speaker 1: of the scoundrels, well, they would be caught up in
- 10:44Speaker 1: the financial portion of this at the very least. All
- 10:49Speaker 1: names in the deposition have been redacted except Maxwell's and Epstein's. However,
- 10:55Speaker 1: a number of clues indicate that a certain person referenced
- 10:58Speaker 1: 10 times in the 418-page document is likely Wexner. And
- 11:03Speaker 1: we discussed that in the Slate article. And it's definitely Wexner.
- 11:07Speaker 1: Not most likely. It's Wexner, okay? That's who the redacted
- 11:10Speaker 1: name is. No doubt about it. And when you look
- 11:13Speaker 1: at it in context, you understand that. We didn't even
- 11:16Speaker 1: need to have it unredacted for us to understand when
- 11:19Speaker 1: we look at it in context. And why is that? Well...
- 11:23Speaker 1: because we've been following this story for so long, we
- 11:26Speaker 1: know the ins and outs. We know who gave Jeffrey
- 11:29Speaker 1: Epstein the townhouse. We know who ran Victoria's Secret, etc., etc.
- 11:34Speaker 1: It's not a mystery at this point, is it? Do
- 11:38Speaker 1: you know why redacted Les Wexner sold the New York
- 11:42Speaker 1: house or gave the New York house to Jeffrey, if
- 11:45Speaker 1: you know? An attorney asked Maxwell at one point in
- 11:48Speaker 1: the deposition. And again... why would you just give away
- 11:52Speaker 1: that sort of house? We've all seen that house now.
- 11:55Speaker 1: We're all familiar with the dollar signs attached to it.
- 11:58Speaker 1: So you just give that house away? Or was that
- 12:02Speaker 1: house part of the operation? Was that house part of
- 12:06Speaker 1: the whole entire enterprise? And that was just another way
- 12:11Speaker 1: that Wexner could contribute. Like I said, everybody had their
- 12:15Speaker 1: part to play. Jeffrey Epstein had his part, right? He
- 12:18Speaker 1: was the guy who was the front of the operation.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Then you had Ghislaine Maxwell behind the scenes manipulating shit,
- 12:26Speaker 1: making sure that they were able to access all of
- 12:29Speaker 1: these social circles. Then you had the core four. Well,
- 12:33Speaker 1: their job was grooming. Their job was procuring. Their job
- 12:37Speaker 1: was setting these girls up to come and go from
- 12:41Speaker 1: the mansion and elsewhere, right? Well, You don't think Wexner
- 12:46Speaker 1: had a job? Of course he did. His job was
- 12:48Speaker 1: to provide this massive amount of fundage and a place,
- 12:52Speaker 1: a base of operations for all of this to take place.
- 12:59Speaker 1: Wexner purchased a mansion in New York City for $ 13. 2
- 13:01Speaker 1: million in 1989. He later sold or gifted the house
- 13:03Speaker 1: to Epstein. It was rumored that Wexner gave Epstein the
- 13:10Speaker 1: house for a single dollar, but the New York Times
- 13:13Speaker 1: reported in 2019 that Epstein had paid $ 20 million for
- 13:18Speaker 1: the home, citing a person with knowledge of Wexner's finances. Yeah, okay, sure.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Nobody believes that. This was an operational move. This was
- 13:28Speaker 1: all part of the ongoing criminal enterprise that they had underway.
- 13:35Speaker 1: in my opinion anyway, that's where the evidence has led me. Again,
- 13:38Speaker 1: like usual, I am most certainly willing to follow the
- 13:42Speaker 1: evidence wherever it leads. But as of now, there is
- 13:48Speaker 1: no way in my mind and there is no way
- 13:52Speaker 1: that Anything that I've seen so far can lead me
- 13:56Speaker 1: anywhere but the fact that Wexner was just playing his
- 14:00Speaker 1: part here, folks. Just playing his part of Daddy Warbucks.
- 14:03Speaker 1: Here's a couple of bucks. Here's a house. Here's this.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Get shit going. Remember, we have people that are counting
- 14:11Speaker 1: on us. And all of these people that were involved
- 14:16Speaker 1: with Epstein, again, in his orbit, his very close orbit,
- 14:22Speaker 1: They're all suspect, especially when you look at the whole
- 14:26Speaker 1: story in context, especially when you follow the evidence regarding
- 14:34Speaker 1: Wexner and Epstein. There's no other logical way to go
- 14:38Speaker 1: about it other than these two were very, very deeply connected.
- 14:47Speaker 1: While the name of the person who sold or gave
- 14:49Speaker 1: the New York home to Epstein is redacted, The deposition's
- 14:53Speaker 1: glossary provides further evidence that the lawyer was likely referring
- 14:57Speaker 1: to Wexner. The alphabetically ordered glossary places the redacted term
- 15:01Speaker 1: between we've and what's. So again, it's definitely Wexner. It's
- 15:07Speaker 1: not even a question because when you know the story, well,
- 15:10Speaker 1: you don't need the decoder ring. You understand that when
- 15:13Speaker 1: they're talking about the mansion being passed, that that's Wexner.
- 15:16Speaker 1: You understand when they talk about New Albany, well, that's Wexner.
- 15:20Speaker 1: You understand when they talk about the prince or, you know,
- 15:24Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. At this point, we all understand
- 15:27Speaker 1: the players on the stage and we all understand the
- 15:30Speaker 1: context for which they were performing. Other references to this
- 15:38Speaker 1: person as listed in the glossary reinforced that attorneys and
- 15:42Speaker 1: Maxwell were likely referring to Wexner. For example, an attorney
- 15:46Speaker 1: asked Maxwell about the business relationship between Epstein and the
- 15:50Speaker 1: person Wexner. I believe in the 90s, when I was there,
- 15:54Speaker 1: they had a business relationship, Maxwell said, adding that the
- 15:58Speaker 1: only relationship between the two that she was aware of
- 16:01Speaker 1: was the business relationship. Yeah, you mean the money laundering
- 16:04Speaker 1: operation you guys were running? Yeah, that's probably considered a
- 16:08Speaker 1: business relationship in your world. So Maxwell has no idea.
- 16:14Speaker 1: I mean, come on, guys. She had no idea who
- 16:17Speaker 1: Wexner even was, really. Just, you know, just two strangers
- 16:21Speaker 1: passing in the night. Nothing to see here. We don't
- 16:25Speaker 1: know each other. Meanwhile, we know Maxwell's dad and Wexner
- 16:29Speaker 1: knew each other. We know they had all the same contacts.
- 16:33Speaker 1: We know that they ran in the same circles. So please,
- 16:38Speaker 1: for Ghislaine Maxwell to act like she doesn't know about
- 16:41Speaker 1: the relationship between Wexner and Epstein is laughable at best.
- 16:49Speaker 1: A representative for Wexner declined to comment beyond what the
- 16:53Speaker 1: former executive and his attorney said in publicly available documents.
- 16:58Speaker 1: Of course they did. They're never going to respond. They
- 17:00Speaker 1: never do. It's the mum's the word crew, right? Let's,
- 17:04Speaker 1: you know, we'll start with a marathon trying to distance
- 17:07Speaker 1: ourselves from this. And then when the fallout really starts
- 17:11Speaker 1: to come, it's time to go into sprint mode and
- 17:13Speaker 1: we'll go and hide at Balmoral or we'll go and
- 17:16Speaker 1: hide at our huge mansion somewhere. Meanwhile, they're not understanding
- 17:24Speaker 1: that this isn't going away. They're not understanding that they're
- 17:28Speaker 1: not going to be able to sweep this under the
- 17:30Speaker 1: rug this time. The wheels of justice turn slowly, but
- 17:35Speaker 1: when you get caught up in the turning, boy, is
- 17:38Speaker 1: it a grinding experience. Wexner, who founded Victoria's Secret parent company,
- 17:47Speaker 1: L Brands, in 1963, had a close personal and professional
- 17:51Speaker 1: relationship with Epstein beginning in the 80s. For years, Wexner
- 17:56Speaker 1: was Epstein's only known client. Yeah, that's not weird. That's
- 17:59Speaker 1: not like, well, you know, the Corleones and Tom Hagen
- 18:02Speaker 1: type shit. Nah, not at all. Just par for the course.
- 18:07Speaker 1: One client? That's it? If Jeffrey Epstein was so great
- 18:11Speaker 1: at his job, he was such a financial wizard. Why
- 18:14Speaker 1: did he only have one client? Why did he only
- 18:18Speaker 1: have maybe a couple of clients, Leon Black too? And
- 18:22Speaker 1: why is it always these people that are in the
- 18:24Speaker 1: financial world or these magnates that are around Jeffrey Epstein?
- 18:28Speaker 1: People that can, you know, do something for him. Wexner
- 18:34Speaker 1: may soon be forced to share more about his ties
- 18:37Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein. Attorneys also tied the person to allegations
- 18:41Speaker 1: that Maxwell groomed Roberts and other teenagers for sex work.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Did you ever provide Virginia Roberts with an outfit, an
- 18:49Speaker 1: outfit of a sexual nature to wherefore redacted an attorney
- 18:54Speaker 1: for Roberts asked referring to the same person? So we're
- 18:59Speaker 1: talking about Wexner again. Maxwell responded categorically no, denying various
- 19:06Speaker 1: other questions about providing sexually charged outfits for girls who
- 19:09Speaker 1: visited Epstein. Wexner has denied ever meeting Roberts. Yeah, of
- 19:14Speaker 1: course he has. So did Prince Andrew. So did Prince Andrew.
- 19:19Speaker 1: You know, I only wish this was like back in
- 19:21Speaker 1: the day. I wish it was like now with all
- 19:24Speaker 1: the cell phones and everybody taking pictures because there would
- 19:26Speaker 1: have been no way people wouldn't have been snapping sneak
- 19:29Speaker 1: shots of these scoundrels all together. I mean, we even
- 19:32Speaker 1: got a few pictures with the old school kind of
- 19:34Speaker 1: cameras like Virginia used for her picture. But imagine if
- 19:38Speaker 1: we had cell phone cameras back then? Boy, forget it.
- 19:41Speaker 1: These people would have been in big trouble. Allegations that
- 19:46Speaker 1: Wexner and Roberts have met have become an issue in
- 19:49Speaker 1: another recent lawsuit. between the lawyer, Alan Dershowitz and Roberts.
- 19:53Speaker 1: As part of the suit, Mr. I kept my underpants
- 19:56Speaker 1: on Dershowitz is attempting to force Wexner and his lawyer
- 20:00Speaker 1: to testify to bolster his case against Roberts, whom he
- 20:04Speaker 1: is suing for defamation. And we've talked about that a lot.
- 20:08Speaker 1: You know, it was, uh, Dirty Dersh made a very
- 20:12Speaker 1: bold attempt to try and get his hands on some
- 20:15Speaker 1: documents in Preska's courtroom. And thankfully, Judge Preska gave him
- 20:19Speaker 1: a nice forearm shiver to the face and told him
- 20:24Speaker 1: to kick rocks. He wanted to really get into those documents.
- 20:30Speaker 1: He tried to get Wexner involved. And I said at
- 20:32Speaker 1: the time, and I still believe him pulling Wexner into
- 20:35Speaker 1: it was a way to get the spotlight off of him.
- 20:38Speaker 1: and focused on another so-called member of polite society. Mr.
- 20:46Speaker 1: I-kept-my-underpants-on Dershowitz alleges Roberts attempted to shake down Wexner by
- 20:50Speaker 1: claiming the retail executive had sex with her when she
- 20:53Speaker 1: was underage and that she had knowledge of his sexual hang-ups.
- 20:58Speaker 1: Another allegation Wexner denies. So Dershowitz says that boys and...
- 21:05Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts, they were all trying to extort Wexner. And
- 21:09Speaker 1: Wexner says, that's absolutely incorrect. Once again, you're lying, Mr. Dershowitz.
- 21:15Speaker 1: That's what Wexner's saying, basically, right? And it sure looks
- 21:19Speaker 1: that way to me. It certainly looks to me that
- 21:23Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz will do anything to get the spotlight off
- 21:27Speaker 1: of him in this case and put it somewhere else.
- 21:33Speaker 1: Dirty Dershowitz said in a mid-August filing that Roberts' attorneys
- 21:36Speaker 1: described in detail the alleged sexual encounters between Roberts and Wexner,
- 21:41Speaker 1: including an alleged demand by Wexner that Roberts wear Victoria's
- 21:45Speaker 1: Secret-type lingerie during their encounters. Such an accusation, if made publicly,
- 21:52Speaker 1: could have massively damaged Wexner and his company, Dershowitz said,
- 21:56Speaker 1: alleging that Roberts attempted to extort Wexner based on his
- 21:59Speaker 1: recollection of a 2015 conversation between himself and Wexner's attorney,
- 22:05Speaker 1: John Zeiger. And Zeiger came out and said that never happened.
- 22:10Speaker 1: We know that. And we know that Wexner has denied
- 22:13Speaker 1: it as well. So it's like pick your poison here, right?
- 22:18Speaker 1: Who do you believe? Mr. I kept my underpants on
- 22:21Speaker 1: or less the dirty rat Wexner? Robert's attorney, David Boyes,
- 22:26Speaker 1: has said no such shakedown or settlement of any kind
- 22:29Speaker 1: was ever made or discussed with Wexner. Wexner has denied
- 22:34Speaker 1: ever meeting Roberts and said no such extortion attempt ever occurred.
- 22:38Speaker 1: In July, Zeiger said in a filing, no extortion demand
- 22:43Speaker 1: was ever made, no settlement was ever entered into, and
- 22:47Speaker 1: not a penny or other consideration was ever paid. And
- 22:53Speaker 1: that pretty much right there shot Dershowitz's story to shit.
- 22:57Speaker 1: And you try and bring that kind of nonsense in
- 22:59Speaker 1: Preska's courtroom, and she's not having it, obviously. Despite denials
- 23:05Speaker 1: of the alleged shakedown on all sides, Dirty Dershowitz has
- 23:08Speaker 1: requested Wexner turn over documents that he said would bolster
- 23:12Speaker 1: his case against Roberts. In August, U.S. District Judge Loretta
- 23:17Speaker 1: Preska said the court sees no reason for that correspondence
- 23:21Speaker 1: to remain under seal. Zeiger has agreed to testify in
- 23:25Speaker 1: the case, but attorneys for Wexner have said that the
- 23:28Speaker 1: former CEO does not possess discoverable information. So in layman's terms,
- 23:35Speaker 1: get effed. You are not talking to Wexner. No chance.
- 23:39Speaker 1: You could talk to the lawyer, but Wexner is not
- 23:41Speaker 1: going to be deposed unless it's court ordered. Wexner said
- 23:46Speaker 1: he cut ties with Epstein more than a decade ago.
- 23:50Speaker 1: Wexner led L Brands for nearly six decades before stepping
- 23:54Speaker 1: down in February. And it wasn't a coincidence. He stepped
- 23:57Speaker 1: down because of his relationship with Epstein. He stepped down because, well...
- 24:02Speaker 1: the public was no longer willing to sit by and
- 24:06Speaker 1: let this slimy, smarmy bastard run these companies. So the
- 24:13Speaker 1: public outcry was so great that Wexner had no other
- 24:16Speaker 1: choice but to step down. Roberts described Wexner as Epstein's
- 24:21Speaker 1: best friend and mentor in her unpublished memoir, which was
- 24:25Speaker 1: unsealed this summer. Look, They were very close, right? There's
- 24:29Speaker 1: no doubt about that. I don't know one way or
- 24:31Speaker 1: the other about a friendship. Virginia would know better than me, obviously.
- 24:35Speaker 1: But from what I can see, it was just another
- 24:39Speaker 1: business relationship with Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein was using him as
- 24:44Speaker 1: just another tool to further his criminal enterprise. And that
- 24:50Speaker 1: was Wexner's role in this whole entire thing, right? Like
- 24:52Speaker 1: we discussed, he was the bag man. The New York
- 24:57Speaker 1: Times reported last year that Epstein attempted to involve himself
- 25:00Speaker 1: in recruiting lingerie models for Victoria's Secret. One model, Alicia Arden,
- 25:06Speaker 1: filed a police report in 1997 saying that she was
- 25:09Speaker 1: attacked by Epstein, whom she met with after he identified
- 25:13Speaker 1: himself as a talent agent for the brand. Epstein had
- 25:17Speaker 1: significant control over Wexner's finances, philanthropy, and private life, the
- 25:22Speaker 1: Times reported, citing people who knew Epstein and Wexner and
- 25:25Speaker 1: court documents and financial records. Yeah, it's not even disputed.
- 25:30Speaker 1: The Wexner family doesn't dispute it either. The King of
- 25:33Speaker 1: Columbus definitely does not dispute it. They were great friends.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Epstein was in charge of all of his finances and
- 25:41Speaker 1: the falling out stuff. Yeah, pretty sure that's a cover
- 25:44Speaker 1: story in my opinion. A representative for Wexner said last
- 25:49Speaker 1: year the executive had cut ties with Epstein more than
- 25:53Speaker 1: a decade earlier. Wexner condemned Epstein in a letter to
- 25:57Speaker 1: his foundation in August 2019, saying that his former financial
- 26:01Speaker 1: advisor misappropriated vast sums of money from him and his family.
- 26:06Speaker 1: You see the pattern here? All of these guys have
- 26:09Speaker 1: to send them. First, it starts with sending the emails
- 26:11Speaker 1: to their investors, right? First, it starts with sending emails
- 26:14Speaker 1: to the board members. And then comes, well, I'm stepping
- 26:18Speaker 1: down because I have to spend more time with my family. No,
- 26:21Speaker 1: we know the deal. We know why you had to leave, Wexner.
- 26:24Speaker 1: We know the fact of the matter is you were
- 26:28Speaker 1: under pressure to do so. You would have never left
- 26:31Speaker 1: that company of your own accord. Please, your hand was forced.
- 26:39Speaker 1: I am embarrassed that like so many others, I was
- 26:42Speaker 1: deceived by Mr. Epstein, Wexner wrote in the letter. I
- 26:46Speaker 1: know now that my trust in him was grossly misplaced
- 26:49Speaker 1: and I deeply regret having ever crossed his path. A
- 26:53Speaker 1: representative for L Brands did not respond to Business Insider's
- 26:56Speaker 1: request for comment on the newly unsealed documents. Yeah, they
- 27:00Speaker 1: definitely don't want, they have their hands full as it is, right?
- 27:03Speaker 1: The retail industry is on its way out, as we
- 27:06Speaker 1: know it, brick and mortar anyway. And L Brands and
- 27:09Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret especially is at the forefront of getting shattered
- 27:13Speaker 1: in that realm. So yeah, they got bigger problems. And
- 27:17Speaker 1: Wexner himself, he's not going to answer shit. He doesn't
- 27:20Speaker 1: feel like he has to. He'll send his lawyers out.
- 27:24Speaker 1: He'll maybe, you know, his lawyer might give a canned
- 27:27Speaker 1: statement if the pressure gets turned up too hot. But
- 27:32Speaker 1: Wexner is never going to go under oath about his
- 27:36Speaker 1: relationship with Jeffrey Epstein willingly. So they have a lot
- 27:41Speaker 1: of financial history together, right? With Jeffrey Epstein's criminality. It
- 27:48Speaker 1: would be easy I would think. To tie them together. Financially.
- 27:54Speaker 1: And then. Once that's the case. Slap Wexner. With a
- 28:01Speaker 1: criminal indictment. If he was involved in moving. ill-gotten gains
- 28:07Speaker 1: if he was involved in receiving ill-gotten gains if Jeffrey
- 28:10Speaker 1: Epstein was in charge of his money and Jeffrey Epstein
- 28:13Speaker 1: was using his money for his crimes and to cover
- 28:18Speaker 1: up and to pay off these girls and witnesses and
- 28:21Speaker 1: whatever have you well that makes Wexner certainly part of
- 28:26Speaker 1: the conspiracy from a financial perspective and under let's hear
- 28:31Speaker 1: from the back folks RICO laws well he'd be facing
- 28:36Speaker 1: severe criminal penalties again. The question remains, will the authorities
- 28:46Speaker 1: and the prosecutors have the backbone to do it? If
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