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- 0:08Pregnant migrant girls are being
- 0:09sent to a South Texas shelter where
- 0:11both the region and the facility
- 0:13lack the necessary care.
- 0:15The decision from the Trump
- 0:16administration was made against
- 0:18objections from officials inside
- 0:20the administration.
- 0:21That story is a collaborative effort
- 0:23between the Texas newsroom and the
- 0:24California newsroom, and we're gonna
- 0:26have more from their reporting
- 0:27coming up on today's show.
- 0:29The Austin Signal is a production
- 0:31of KUT News, hosted by
- 0:33Jerry Quijano.
- 0:34Plus, a new housing project in East
- 0:36Austin is combining affordable rent
- 0:38with support from musicians as
- 0:40they try to do their part to allow
- 0:41artists to afford to live in the
- 0:43city, what they've got going on, and
- 0:45how this could lay out a path for
- 0:46future projects.
- 0:47And new class times for students and
- 0:49staff in the Georgetown School
- 0:50District. The bell is about to
- 0:52ring. Do not be late, because
- 0:54Austin Signal is coming up next.
- 1:06Howdy out there.
- 1:07Thank you for tuning in.
- 1:08This is Austin Signal,
- 1:10and we are coming to you from
- 1:12listener-powered public radio,
- 1:14KUT News.
- 1:16I'm your host, Jerry Keconnell.
- 1:17It is Wednesday, February 11th.
- 1:19We're glad to be part of your
- 1:21day.
- 1:23Our top story, the Trump
- 1:24administration is sending pregnant
- 1:26migrant girls to a shelter in
- 1:28deep south Texas.
- 1:29The shelter is flagged as
- 1:31medically inadequate.
- 1:33And advocates for the children
- 1:34inside are worried that they're
- 1:35being concentrated here in Texas
- 1:37because of the state's abortion ban.
- 1:39This story is a collaboration
- 1:41between the Texas newsroom and the
- 1:43California newsroom.
- 1:44Mo's Bouchelle has been covering
- 1:45immigration for the Texas Newsroom.
- 1:48He reported on this story and he's
- 1:49with us today on Austin Signal.
- 1:51Welcome, Mo's.
- 1:52Always a pleasure, Jerry.
- 1:53So this is a collaborative story
- 1:54between the Texas New Room and the
- 1:56California news room.
- 1:58Tell us a little bit about how this
- 1:59story came together.
- 2:00How did you hear about this?
- 2:02Yeah, so I was working with a
- 2:04reporter for the California
- 2:04Newsroom, a guy named Mark
- 2:06Bettencourt, who's actually based
- 2:08in D.C., who started
- 2:10hearing from people within
- 2:12the Trump administration,
- 2:14within the Office of Refugee
- 2:15Resettlement, that there was
- 2:17concern there over
- 2:19this new policy of concentrating
- 2:22pregnant unaccompanied minors
- 2:24at one particular
- 2:26shelter in South Texas.
- 2:28Now, obviously, we are in Texas here
- 2:30in Austin.
- 2:31Uh... The uh... Did the policy shift
- 2:32is coming out of dc and
- 2:34so it seemed to make sense to kind
- 2:36of work together to try to try to
- 2:37get to the bottom was happening here
- 2:38and you actually made a visit down
- 2:40to south texas yeah i went i went
- 2:41down to the real grand valley uh...
- 2:43Uh... Talk to a bunch of folks down
- 2:45there and visited uh...
- 2:46San benito texAS where this
- 2:48particular shelters located
- 2:49This shelter is at the heart of your
- 2:51story. Can you tell us about the
- 2:52policy that's sending pregnant
- 2:54minors to this shelter?
- 2:55Absolutely so uh...
- 2:57What started last summer was a
- 2:58directive went out in the office of
- 3:00refugee resettlement is the agency
- 3:01responsible for the care of
- 3:03uh... Uh... Kids uh...
- 3:05In you know immigrant kids in the in
- 3:06its in its custody uh...
- 3:08The policy went out to concentrate
- 3:11all pregnant minors
- 3:13in this one particular place
- 3:15uh... It's uh...
- 3:16Shelter run by uh...
- 3:18For-profit company called urban
- 3:19strategies in San Benito, Texas.
- 3:21And this is a policy that
- 3:23breaks with long-standing practice
- 3:25at the Office of Refugee
- 3:26Resettlement. What was that old
- 3:28policy? So traditionally,
- 3:30the idea has been if you have a
- 3:31pregnant girl in US custody,
- 3:34she will be sent to whatever place
- 3:36might best accommodate
- 3:38her, a part of the country
- 3:41and a center that has
- 3:43the capacity to deal with
- 3:44potentially high-risk pregnancies,
- 3:45which if you are a minor and
- 3:47you're pregnant, then you are by
- 3:49definition high risk.
- 3:50In this case, the directive
- 3:52went out to say, no, actually we
- 3:54want all of the detainees
- 3:56who fit this description, all
- 3:57pregnant girls sent to this one
- 3:59particular place.
- 4:00That was a break from long standing
- 4:01practice.
- 4:02And why San Benito, I mean it's
- 4:04this tiny town in the border,
- 4:06in the valley of Texas,
- 4:08why San benito of all places?
- 4:10So a lot of the people that
- 4:12we've heard from within ORR
- 4:14and people outside, I should
- 4:16say as well, state with
- 4:18great confidence that this has to do
- 4:19with access to abortion.
- 4:21In the first Trump term, there was
- 4:23an ongoing effort to deprive
- 4:25detained girls access to abortions
- 4:27while they were in U.S.
- 4:28Custody.
- 4:29And in this case, they believe
- 4:31that by sending these girls
- 4:33to Texas, which has some of the
- 4:34strictest abortion restrictions
- 4:36in the country of almost complete
- 4:38ban, you will eventually
- 4:41kind of deprive
- 4:43them of access to abortion by
- 4:45having them here.
- 4:46Now, this will require other changes
- 4:48in rules at the federal level, but
- 4:49they see this as a step in that
- 4:51direction.
- 4:52Did these immigrant children who are
- 4:54in custody of federal officials, did
- 4:55they have any kind of protections
- 4:56prior to this policy
- 4:59change?
- 5:00Yeah, I mentioned in the first Trump
- 5:02term, there was an effort to stop
- 5:04them from getting abortions
- 5:05and that was litigated
- 5:08in 2017.
- 5:09There was a lawsuit that led to
- 5:11it's kind of a long story, but
- 5:12essentially led to a what
- 5:14you might call an agreement that
- 5:16then was translated into policy
- 5:18under the Biden administration.
- 5:19The policy was no,
- 5:21if there is a minor in custody
- 5:23that wants wants an
- 5:25abortion, she she has the
- 5:27right to that access no matter where
- 5:29she's kept in the country.
- 5:30Currently, it appears the Trump
- 5:32administration is changing those
- 5:33rules. Once those rules are changed,
- 5:36and you are detained
- 5:38in Texas, many
- 5:40people fear that will restrict
- 5:42or end their access
- 5:44to abortion.
- 5:45The article is over at KUT.org.
- 5:47It has a couple of photos of the
- 5:49shelter.
- 5:50One thing I wanted to ask Moe is
- 5:52that as you've been covering
- 5:53immigration for the Texas newsroom
- 5:54for the last few months, you have
- 5:56been working or trying to get
- 5:57information from federal officials
- 5:59more often. I feel like that is
- 6:00something that's happening across
- 6:02our newsroom.
- 6:03How difficult was it to build
- 6:04sources to be able to report out a
- 6:06story like this?
- 6:07Uh... We had a lot of trouble
- 6:08talking to people you know multiple
- 6:10emails and gotten went on answered
- 6:12uh... Eventually we did get some
- 6:14uh... Kind of boilerplate uh...
- 6:16Answers uh... In email from from
- 6:18federal agencies.
- 6:19I went down in person to
- 6:22this shelter just to kind
- 6:24of knock on the door after getting
- 6:26no reply to our emails for a
- 6:28long time.
- 6:29And that also, maybe not
- 6:30surprisingly, didn't yield great
- 6:32results.
- 6:33But we do have all the replies we
- 6:36got in our story online,
- 6:38what we did receive from them.
- 6:40We quote them in their responses and
- 6:41we quote our named sources
- 6:44within the government who often
- 6:46who in many cases might
- 6:48contradict what the official
- 6:50responses might be is
- 6:52there anything else that I haven't
- 6:53asked you about that you I mean I
- 6:55know it's hard to just jump into a
- 6:56really well yeah I mean the only
- 6:57Oh, yeah, I mean, the only the only so
- 6:58so another part of this is just the
- 7:00fact that there's a lot of concern
- 7:02we have heard within our and then
- 7:03also experts we talked to outside
- 7:05of the agency, that this
- 7:07is not in the best interest of
- 7:09these kids in many cases,
- 7:11you know, if you had your choice of
- 7:13anywhere in the country to send
- 7:15pregnant minors, who
- 7:17are again, medically vulnerable by
- 7:19definition, why choose
- 7:20a part of the country that Struggles
- 7:23with some- Some healthcare access
- 7:25issues already right you know you
- 7:26could send them to a city in texas
- 7:28that has better access to
- 7:30specialized care or you can send
- 7:31them. To any other part of the
- 7:33country that has a better access two
- 7:35specialized care so you
- 7:37know the the deep concern on
- 7:39the part of many people is that
- 7:41whatever is happening is on its
- 7:42face.
- 7:43Bad for these kids that is not in
- 7:45their best interest when it comes to
- 7:46health and safety.
- 7:48We've been speaking with Moe's
- 7:49Bouchelle. He has been covering
- 7:50immigration for the Texas newsroom.
- 7:52His latest story was co-reported
- 7:54with Mark Betancourt of the
- 7:55California newsroom, you can read
- 7:56their story at kut.org and
- 7:58we're gonna have a link in our show
- 8:00notes for today.
- 8:01Moe, thanks for talking with us.
- 8:02Thank you, Jerry.
- 8:10As school districts across the state
- 8:12continue working to find creative
- 8:14ways to save some money, one
- 8:16district north of Austin is
- 8:17considering doing so by rearranging
- 8:19its school day.
- 8:21KUT's Kaylee Hunt reports a
- 8:23new bell schedule for Georgetown ISD
- 8:25is the district's attempt at cutting
- 8:27down on transportation costs.
- 8:30Georgetown ISD's newly adopted
- 8:32Bell schedule includes earlier
- 8:34start times for the district's
- 8:36elementary and high schools.
- 8:38Middle schools will also start
- 8:39later.
- 8:40The district superintendent, Devin
- 8:42Patteville, says the idea is
- 8:44to make enough of a gap between
- 8:46start times so the same bus can
- 8:48serve all three school levels.
- 8:50So by spreading out with
- 8:52about 45 to 50 minutes between
- 8:54each level of schooling, we're able
- 8:56to reduce bus routes, which saves
- 8:58us close to a million dollars.
- 9:00Right now, the district runs on a
- 9:02schedule that has 60 minutes between
- 9:04elementary and high school start
- 9:06times.
- 9:07High school and middle school start
- 9:08time are only 20 minutes apart.
- 9:11That means most bus routes are only
- 9:12able to service two schools,
- 9:14either an elementary and a high
- 9:16school, or an elementary and a
- 9:18middle school.
- 9:19And that's expensive, says Clint
- 9:20Pruitt, Georgetown ISD's Executive
- 9:22Director of Support Services.
- 9:24He recently spoke at
- 9:26a meeting of the district's board of
- 9:27trustees.
- 9:28Each route equates to
- 9:30between $70,000 to $80,000,
- 9:33so you can see the potential savings
- 9:35are considerable if we're
- 9:37able to implement a balanced
- 9:39three-tier system.
- 9:40Superintendent Padaville says the
- 9:42new bell schedule and the resulting
- 9:44savings means the district will
- 9:46be in a better position to offer
- 9:47teacher and staff raises next year.
- 9:50So we're carrying a balanced budget
- 9:51into 2026, 27,
- 9:54but that doesn't allow us to
- 9:55increase teacher pay.
- 9:56In order to increase teachers pay,
- 9:59I have to lead the district in
- 10:01essentially eliminating more
- 10:03expenses or
- 10:05going with the deficit budget.
- 10:07There's no more new revenue.
- 10:09Pataville also recently announced
- 10:11a delay in opening two new
- 10:12schools until 2027.
- 10:15Elementary school number 12 and
- 10:17middle school number 5 were supposed
- 10:19to open this August.
- 10:21But Patavilles says the district is
- 10:22seeing slower than anticipated
- 10:24enrollment growth.
- 10:25Right now, the cost of opening the
- 10:27schools outweighs the benefits.
- 10:29When we look at student
- 10:31enrollment, it's pretty
- 10:33much tapering off in central Texas
- 10:35because of the state of economy and
- 10:38homeowner interest rates.
- 10:40Everything's staying real stable.
- 10:42David de Matthews is a professor
- 10:44in the Department of Educational
- 10:46Leadership and Policy at UT
- 10:48Austin.
- 10:49In his role, he helps train district
- 10:51administrators like Pataville.
- 10:53He says
- 10:54In a lot of districts across the
- 10:55state, people are looking everywhere
- 10:58to tighten their belts
- 11:00because there's just not enough
- 11:01money.
- 11:03DiMathias says saving a million
- 11:05dollars might not seem like a big
- 11:06deal when you consider the overall
- 11:08budget of a school district like
- 11:10Georgetown ISD.
- 11:11Last year, its budget was just over
- 11:13$260 million.
- 11:15But he says every bit counts.
- 11:18$1 million is equal to 10
- 11:20or more teachers' salaries.
- 11:22I'm Kaylee Hunt in Georgetown.
- 11:25And this is Austin
- 11:28Signal. We are listener-powered
- 11:29public radio.
- 11:31We're gonna take a break, but after
- 11:32the break, we're gonna talk a little
- 11:34Texas music history, a little Austin
- 11:36music history.
- 11:37And then we're going to talk about
- 11:38an affordable housing, a project
- 11:40that is being set up to keep
- 11:42those musicians here in Austin,
- 11:44hopefully for the foreseeable
- 11:46future.
- 11:47We've got more about those stories
- 11:49coming up after this break.
- 11:50This is Austin signal.
- 11:58This is Austin Signal,
- 12:00welcome back.
- 12:01Well, many decades and many moons
- 12:03ago, a set of historic
- 12:05recordings were created right here
- 12:07in Austin, caught on tape by
- 12:09a 21-year-old kid.
- 12:11Here's Jason Mellard from the Center
- 12:13for Texas Music History at Texas
- 12:15State University to tell us
- 12:17a little bit about it.
- 12:19In our listening to the five soul
- 12:21souls of Houston, Texas, we are
- 12:22singing in Austin, Texas on
- 12:25February the 12th for the
- 12:26Library of Congress in
- 12:28Washington.
- 12:33This week in Texas music history, a
- 12:35Houston gospel group stirs things up
- 12:37in Depression-era Austin.
- 12:39On February 12th, 1936,
- 12:41the Soul Stirrers made their first
- 12:42recordings.
- 12:44The influential gospel group didn't
- 12:45do so with a record company.
- 12:46Rather, it was 21-year-old
- 12:48folklorist Alan Lomax, who first
- 12:50captured their music for the Library
- 12:51of Congress.
- 12:52The Houston-based group was in
- 12:54Austin for the weekend, and Lomx
- 12:55took time off his studies at the
- 12:57University of Texas to set up the
- 12:58session. Lomax participated in
- 13:00thousands of such sessions in his
- 13:02career. And he described the four
- 13:03songs of these initial soul stirrers
- 13:06recordings as the most incredible
- 13:08polyrhythmic music you've ever
- 13:09heard.
- 13:17Though Lomax was ostensibly
- 13:18recording them as an example of folk
- 13:20culture for posterity, he surely
- 13:22recognized their popular potential.
- 13:28When singer R.H.
- 13:29Harris of Trinity, Texas joined the
- 13:31group in 1937, their style
- 13:33gelled, and their move to Chicago
- 13:35positioned the soul stirrers to
- 13:36influence the next generation of
- 13:38gospel performance and even duop.
- 13:40The commercial success grew in the
- 13:411940s, but it would be another
- 13:43addition to the group that took them
- 13:44to the next level.
- 13:50You gave me water, you gave me w-
- 13:53When singer Harris left the
- 13:54Soul-Stirrers in 1950, a 20-year-old
- 13:56Sam Cooke took his place.
- 13:58Their biggest hit to date came the
- 13:59following year, Jesus Gave Me Water,
- 14:01and Sam Cook's smooth, lilting style
- 14:03and harmony with the Soul Stirrers
- 14:05set the standard for 50s gospel.
- 14:07So much so that the larger
- 14:09commercial gains and creative
- 14:10freedom of secular music beckoned
- 14:11CooKE. In a move controversial with
- 14:13some of their gospel fans, CooKe
- 14:15left the soul stirrers in 1957
- 14:17and crossed over into pop and R&B.
- 14:19The genius of you send me,
- 14:21bring it on home to me.
- 14:22And of course, a change is gonna
- 14:23come on the horizon.
- 14:25And all of it traces back to an
- 14:26Austin weekend where a Houston
- 14:28gospel group crossed paths with a UT
- 14:30student and the Library of Congress.
- 14:36You can hear music from the Lone
- 14:37Star State 24-7 on the
- 14:39Texas Music Experience at tmx.fm.
- 14:45He gave that woman
- 14:47water, gave a livin'
- 14:49a lovin' lastin' water, and
- 14:51was not in bread.
- 14:53Well, on that woman he had
- 14:55pity, she ran back
- 14:57to the...
- 14:58Rising rents are not just an issue
- 14:59for one set of industry workers here
- 15:02in the City of Austin, but for the
- 15:04live music capital of the world,
- 15:06getting musicians housed in Austin
- 15:07remains an ongoing issue.
- 15:09However, a small East Austin
- 15:11nonprofit has stepped in to
- 15:13help out.
- 15:14For more about that, we are talking
- 15:15with Chad Switecki.
- 15:16He wrote the story for KUT's
- 15:18Artbeat, and he's joining us now on
- 15:20Austin Signal. Chad, thanks for
- 15:21being with us.
- 15:22Thank you.
- 15:22So tell us a little bit more about
- 15:24this non-
- 15:25So Blacklands CDC is
- 15:27an organization that's been active
- 15:29in the Blacklands area of East
- 15:31Austin for decades now.
- 15:32And they're all about housing
- 15:34preservation and creating affordable
- 15:36housing for that community, that
- 15:37area, which we all know is being
- 15:40gentrified practically out of
- 15:41existence. So they're doing as much
- 15:42as they can to create new
- 15:44housing opportunities for folks.
- 15:46And what we're talking about here is
- 15:48they've got a tiny project
- 15:51that's gonna be called Arts Village
- 15:52that is going to
- 15:54eventually provide 10 Small
- 15:56homes, not apartments, but
- 15:58standalone small homes of
- 16:00about 500 square feet
- 16:02or less, specifically for musicians
- 16:04and priced at an affordable rate
- 16:06because as we all know,
- 16:08there's not a lot of money in music
- 16:10and living in this city
- 16:12becomes more expensive by the
- 16:13millisecond and so they are
- 16:15trying to step in and just see what
- 16:17can we create here that would maybe
- 16:19provide a tiny solution
- 16:20for some of these folks.
- 16:22You talked with one musician who's
- 16:23been a fixture around town, Thor
- 16:25Harris, and he talked about the cost
- 16:26of living here obviously, but the
- 16:28cost losing what makes Austin
- 16:30Austin, right?
- 16:31The musicians, the people who have
- 16:32been able to afford to live here and
- 16:34work here. What else did he have to
- 16:35say about this project?
- 16:36Well, you touched on a great point,
- 16:38because culture grows slowly and
- 16:40disappears quickly, right?
- 16:41Under bad circumstances.
- 16:44And so his point is, you
- 16:46know, no shade thrown at San
- 16:47Francisco or New York, but it is
- 16:49tough to exist there in those cities
- 16:52as an artist, as a musician.
- 16:54And for decades, both those cities
- 16:55were known as
- 16:57meccas for creativity and
- 16:59music.
- 17:00And Austin, much the same way.
- 17:02And we're, you now, in the process
- 17:03of losing that. I don't think we're
- 17:05at risk. We are in the process.
- 17:06Of losing that.
- 17:07His message or statement
- 17:09that he made to me was,
- 17:11we don't want to become the next
- 17:13Manhattan or the next San Francisco.
- 17:15And so there's the
- 17:17possibility that you can have a
- 17:19great little curative community
- 17:21that can be started by all these
- 17:23folks living in close proximity.
- 17:25As I understand it,
- 17:27these homes are going to be kind of
- 17:28oriented toward a common area so
- 17:30you're going to have
- 17:32you know, like jam sessions of sorts
- 17:34possibly kind of out in the open.
- 17:36That's a really great, cool
- 17:38idea. The Blackland CDC is
- 17:40actually gonna be creating a
- 17:42tiny stage behind
- 17:44their own building.
- 17:45That's gonna be part of this
- 17:46eventually.
- 17:47That's separate effort, but
- 17:49related.
- 17:50And so, you know there's just on
- 17:52top of the good vibe is just from
- 17:54housing. You could also have just
- 17:56a really cool interaction
- 17:59of creatives and people who, you
- 18:01now. Thankfully, they don't have to
- 18:02worry about losing their
- 18:04homes and having
- 18:06to scrape together every nickel
- 18:08possible. They can be a little more
- 18:10freewheeling, I guess you might say,
- 18:13and embrace their
- 18:15creativity rather than having to
- 18:17function like a
- 18:19business person, like a creative
- 18:20entrepreneur, which has its
- 18:22benefits, but also some of these
- 18:23people aren't wired that way, and we
- 18:24should embrace that and allow
- 18:26for them to live good
- 18:28and decent lives.
- 18:29You mentioned that this is
- 18:30a tiny project what is happening
- 18:32here at 10 homes is the
- 18:34stated goal but this isn't meant to
- 18:36be kind of a cure-all right it's
- 18:38supposed to maybe lay out a plan for
- 18:40a way that to
- 18:41possibly move forward.
- 18:42So one of the individuals I spoke
- 18:43with in my story is
- 18:45higher up at the nonprofit housing
- 18:47opportunities for musicians and
- 18:49entertainers and they said
- 18:51that this is a good
- 18:53potential pilot program
- 18:55that you know just again it
- 18:57is happening on its own but
- 18:59it kind of happened very quickly and
- 19:01is still happening.
- 19:03They're still in the fundraising
- 19:04phase but it's something that I
- 19:06think everyone kind of sees
- 19:08a lot of potential in and you know
- 19:10not that it's going to be modeled
- 19:11exactly but
- 19:13what do they say uh
- 19:15success has many fathers and and
- 19:17failures and orphan and if this
- 19:19thing is successful then we could
- 19:21hopefully be seeing more of
- 19:22them sprouting up in other parts of
- 19:24the City.
- 19:25Yeah, you mentioned a little bit
- 19:26about, we're gonna have a link to
- 19:28your story in our show notes for
- 19:30today and at kut.org
- 19:32slash signal. In the story, you can
- 19:33see one of the homes already that
- 19:35has been built, but you
- 19:37mentioned there that they are still
- 19:38at the fundraising process.
- 19:40What stage is this?
- 19:41Process in.
- 19:42They've secured about a $200,000
- 19:44grant from the St. David's
- 19:46Foundation that I think is more just
- 19:47geared toward architecture,
- 19:49planning, design, and that sort of
- 19:51thing. And then the estimated cost
- 19:53is going to be about $2 million,
- 19:55which for ten homes in Austin,
- 19:57frankly, that's quite modest.
- 19:59And when I was talking to Thor, he
- 20:01was very much of the mind that
- 20:03we want to get different builders in
- 20:04there or different designers.
- 20:06Maybe you can get the folks from
- 20:07Icon Homes to 3D Printo Home, but he
- 20:09wants them all be.
- 20:10Kind of different, kind of a little
- 20:11funky and have their own character,
- 20:13just again, so it doesn't feel
- 20:15prefabbed or anything like that.
- 20:17And so currently in the fundraising
- 20:19stage to get the
- 20:21two million dollars that it's
- 20:23estimated this thing could cost.
- 20:25So it's a thing that when
- 20:27you hear everyone
- 20:29in Austin liking to
- 20:31beat their chest about us being
- 20:33live music capital and as much
- 20:35money as we've got flying around in
- 20:37the city all the time on the tech
- 20:38side. You would certainly hope that
- 20:40two million dollars wouldn't be that
- 20:42difficult to scrape together.
- 20:45We talked to somebody earlier on
- 20:46Austin Signal this week about an
- 20:48affordable housing complex in Travis
- 20:50Heights in the Travis Heights
- 20:51neighborhood. And we talked about
- 20:52how sometimes the pushback
- 20:55to those kinds of projects is the
- 20:56neighborhood that it's going to be
- 20:58placed in.
- 20:59For this kinds of project, I wonder,
- 21:01is there any community interest for
- 21:02support?
- 21:03These sorts of ventures?
- 21:04You know, given that it's being led
- 21:06by Blackland CDC and
- 21:08they have such a good
- 21:10track record in that community,
- 21:12and again, you know, talk about
- 21:13Thor, he's been a musician and a
- 21:15member of that board for 40 years.
- 21:17So I think there's enough equity and
- 21:19enough trust built, I
- 21:21mean, and, again, they're going to
- 21:23orient these homes so that you're
- 21:24not going to have people getting
- 21:26blasted out by music in
- 21:28the surrounding neighborhood.
- 21:29So I think I think they're going to
- 21:30be very Intentional
- 21:32and thoughtful around this kind of
- 21:34thing. So, I mean, you never know
- 21:35until the rubber actually hits the
- 21:37road But it seems like you got the
- 21:38right people leading the charge
- 21:40on this to
- 21:42Get the buy-in and get the trust and
- 21:44get Acceptance of doing
- 21:46something a little bit different,
- 21:47but that has some really good
- 21:49intentions behind it
- 21:50All right, we have been speaking
- 21:51with Chad Switecki.
- 21:52We're gonna have a link to his story
- 21:53at kut.org slash
- 21:55signal. And in today's podcast
- 21:57show notes, Chad, thanks for
- 21:58chatting with us.
- 22:00My pleasure, thanks, Jerry.
- 22:01And before we get out of here today,
- 22:03you may wanna take advantage of this
- 22:05early spring-like weather and spend
- 22:06some time out at Barton Springs
- 22:08Pool, because it's about to close
- 22:10for about three weeks.
- 22:12Austin Parks and Recreation says the
- 22:13closure will start the week of
- 22:14February 23rd, that's the week
- 22:16after next, and continue until
- 22:18March 13th.
- 22:19The reason for the closure is
- 22:20removal of old creek flow bypass
- 22:22infrastructure that is at risk of
- 22:25collapse and that would threaten the
- 22:26habitat of the endangered Barton
- 22:29Springs salamander and that
- 22:30we don't want and that is
- 22:32it for us here today on
- 22:35Austin Signal.
- 22:35We have more from today's show at
- 22:37kut.org slash signal and
- 22:40in today's podcast show notes.
- 22:42Thank you to Rayna Sevilla
- 22:43and Kristen Cabrera for making
- 22:45today's show happen.
- 22:46And thank you to you for spending
- 22:48part of your day here with us.
- 22:50We will be back tomorrow.
- 22:51Talk to you then.