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Pete Garcia: Turning Points, Cycles, Upheaval & Revolution · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Welcome friends and family in Christ is the death of Charlie Kirk, the brutal assassination.
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  Execution. Was that another turning point that happened in our time?
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  Today, we're going to talk about cycles, upheaval, revolution, and bringing in our guest
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  former aviator and author Pete Garcia, the website is rev310.net. Rev310.net. Pete,
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  thanks so much for being on again. Appreciate your time, brother.
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  Thanks, Sam. It's going to be back with you.
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  Yep. Good to have you. So, I want to direct people to your Facebook page because I really like a
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  post that you put up on September 14. So, friends, scroll back a week or so. Go back to that and
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  you talked about Charlie Kirk's just the way he lived fearlessly and that he was willing to
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  cross the political aisle and this boldness that he had now stirred a new generation of believers
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  and we're seeing as we're recording this podcast, we're seeing a little bit of, I don't know if
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  I want to call it fruit, from the effect of his life and his teaching and his respect and love
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  for people and his concern about the nation and free speech and his ability to reach out and
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  ask people questions and not get defensive and angry. He was just an amazing example for a lot
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  of people. His clips are going viral. So, just overall, I know you wrote about it on Facebook
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  and we'll talk more about it but your overall sense of where we're at now because this is a very
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  fascinating time. This was not a politician but this was like you and me out in public.
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  Only he had a massive audience there and it was now we have social media on top of it. So, Pete,
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  another turning point, right? Yeah, definitely a turning point, not the first, not the last,
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  in my opinion, but definitely one of those moments in time we're never going to go back to the way
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  we were and certainly his fearlessness and boldness should be a point of, I don't know, say envy,
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  but a point of, he should have sparked some type of envy with the pulpits and the pastors
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  and the ministers that he was willing to go and do these things in such a public form against
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  and usually a hostile territory where many of the pastors refused to go out. They wouldn't even
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  stick their toe out into these crowds because they're used to the standing behind a pulpit and
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  they've got a pretty receptive audience of their congregants that go there every day and kind of
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  believe what they believe but it's a different story when you go out into a hostile world and there's
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  people that are going to shout, try to shout you down, they're going to get ugly, they're going to
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  get in your face and Charlie was out there for years. I mean, he was constantly out there
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  doing what pastors and preachers should be doing yet he never claimed to be not there.
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  And you know, that to me, I think, is a point of issue that modern pastors are really missing
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  the mark on. They are supposed to be the ones leading the cultural change in their communities
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  and by cultural change, I mean, to biblical values. Just think back to the black
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  robe of pastors back in the revolutionary war. Yep. I mean, these guys were the ones that
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  were leading the charge against the tyrannical King George and all of the abuses that they had
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  suffered under that that brish empire then. But now pastors, and I'm not picking on pastors,
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  I mean, certainly God has called them to speak to, you know, many of them feel like they're
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  speaking to, they're being called to do something. But I feel like a lot of them are hirelies.
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  You know, they're not the shepherds that God called. Instead, they're sitting back and they don't
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  want to go out there because it's uncomfortable. Well, that's what Charlie thrived. He thrived
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  in the uncomfortable areas and he made a difference and I think in his death is going to bring even more
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  movement in his belief that this turning point USA movement in ways that his life probably
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  never could have. And you know, certainly young kids, kids that grew up on TikTok don't know
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  anything about Charlie Kirk, know about him now and they're listening to him now. And it's terrible
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  that it cost, you know, this movement cost him his death or cost him his life. But it's certainly
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  God is going to use that for good, even though it was a terrible event. He's going to bring something
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  good out of it. Well, if it's fascinating in such a short time, we're already seeing some of this
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  good. We're already seeing a lot of young people watching this video is going to church. They're
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  putting out on videos. Hey, I've never been to church before, but I'm just sensing now is a time I
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  need to go and get my life in order or whatever. We're seeing so many of these testimonies plus
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  tens of thousands of requests for turning point USA chapters in highs from high school students
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  and college students. We're hoping hopefully they'll be able to be administer all that and be able
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  to handle all that new traffic and hopefully they'll have a crew and they'll have enough staff.
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  Whether they're going to be hiring new people, I'm sure because this is really going to grow
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  Pete. But like you said, it's another turning point we've had many will probably have another.
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  They tried to take Trump out twice that we know, you know, probably more than that in many
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  different ways, law fair and then the assassination attempts. Would you care to speak to that and
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  just wear our cultures at as we're in this cycle of, I don't know why I'm just called political
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  violence, but I would say intolerance of the biblical worldview and maybe conservative politics.
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  So, I talked a little bit about how we were in right now the fourth industrial revolution.
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  So there's a lot of different layers of where we are in time right now because these cycles that
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  happen, they're not just technological or industrial, they're sometimes their societal, cultural
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  and they all overlap each other. So in many regards, we've been told that we're in the fourth
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  turning point, which is coincides with the fourth industrial revolution moving from the
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  kind of the standard electronics and the standard devices and things that we'd be an under for,
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  you know, 30 or 40 years prior to that, moving into the cyber physical, moving the internet,
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  artificial intelligence, all that stuff into these systems and then moving these systems into
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  everything that we have. If it can be plugged into the internet, it will be and up to and
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  including the human themselves. So we're moving into that direction. Underneath that, we've had
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  these other cycles, Strauss and Howe had this generational theory about how every 80 years there is
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  kind of a reset point, the fourth turning where everything crashes and we start over again kind of
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  in a way. And those cycles are broken up in the 20 year periods and, you know, there are like many
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  movements within the overall revolution of it as well. So cycles within a revolution.
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  And each generation 20 years or so, you can see this looking back to the World War I with
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  the Boomer generation or not World War I, World War II. The Boomer's and then the, I'm trying to
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  think who came out in the 60s and 70s, like a generic generation X, then you have millennials,
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  Gen Z, etc. We kind of categorize these people by the years that they're born in. And you can see
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  them take on these kind of flavors that Strauss and Howe were talking about whether you're the
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  profit generation, the artist, the, you know, the nomad, the artist, and the hero. And these all fit
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  within these turnings. And certainly within the United States history, we can see 80 year cycles playing
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  out in the major events, 80 years from the Revolutionary War to the Civil War, 80 years from the Civil
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  War II, World War II. And we're in that time now where we're in that 80th year. And a lot of people
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  would have thought that was 9-11. But line 11 was a turning point. 2020, the pandemic, that was a
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  turning point. I would even include October 7th, 2023 with Israel is a turning point. Yes.
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  And all of these things are some of them are zeitgeists. And they're just a spirit of the
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  age kind of thing. But they're also kind of all flowing together. And it gets very complicated,
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  very quickly. The point is, is that I think looking at scripture, where Jesus talks about the
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  last days, one of those signs was that the love of many would grow cold. And we're seeing that
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  reaction now from many of the left and the progressives and socialists that are just so hardened
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  against the biblical truth and biblical standards that there's almost, we're getting to that point
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  where there's no, you can't reason with them anymore. You can't reason with somebody that's
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  the one that we possessed. You literally just have to pray over them, pray about the situation
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  and walk away because the only person that can deal with them is the Holy Spirit. And logic,
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  reasons, arguments, all that stuff, none of that matters anymore. And they've taken it to that
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  next level with this public execution of John Kurt. And so friends, that's a good reminder to
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  revisit 2 Timothy 3 when you have time because we're seeing this played out. But some of the
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  information we're talking about that people be sharing is from a video he did on September 15
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  on his YouTube channel Rev 310 on YouTube Rev 310. Just labeled Monday Night Live 915 25. So look
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  for that one. He explains it much more in depth than we can go in this short podcast. But what
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  you were talking about Pete, before we move on, I want to share some stats with you. We are at a
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  very different place and things I don't see a way to go back from here when people are celebrating
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  openly the death of anyone. I'm talking about teachers and people in the medical profession on
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  college camps is every day Americans and they're getting fired some of them rightly so. But liberals
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  are four times more likely than conservatives to celebrate the deaths of their political opponents.
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  And in 2022 just three years ago 82% of Democrats said political violence in the US was a problem.
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  Today it's just 58%. My friends, that is a 24 point drop in just three years. And finally,
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  so I'll get your response to this Pete. A job dropping one in four very liberal Americans believe
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  political violence is justified. That's 25%. That's a quarter of American liberals. So Pete,
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  we are at a different time. We are at a different time of maybe intolerance and hate. But what they say
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  we talk about the biblical worldview truth from scripture, that's hate to them. And so that's
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  what they seem to be coming against and they justify violence to take people out. This is probably
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  just going to grow, isn't it? Yeah, well, a couple of things. One is that I think when we talk about
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  second to three, the perilous times we live in, I look back to the time just before the Civil War,
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  late 1850s and how polarized society was over the issues of states rights and slavery.
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  And we got to that point then that words were just not cutting anymore. Action was something
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  that had to be taken. And I think we're at that point now, but multiplied by a thousand and,
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  pump full of steroids because it's everybody is so angry, but there's so many issues right now
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  that are dividing people. It's not just between Democrats and Republicans. We've got Republicans,
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  even within the magham movement, there's a huge divide over what to do with Israel or where you
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  stand with Israel. And that's just one facet. I mean, Charlie was a barometer out there feeling
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  what the culture was like. And he was exposing it to everybody. He was live streaming these debates.
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  He would have to show how far removed many of these college students are from reality.
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  We would watch these clips, shorts, or whatever. And we'd think, oh my goodness, how
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  woke these people are? How broken they are mentally. But it is so when you just talk to people that age
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  in these college areas, just a lot of them think like that because that's how they've been
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  programmed. That's how they've been conditioned. And they've never lived in a that's different
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  than the way it is today. So there's no wonder that they are thinking the way they think.
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  When somebody comes in and speaks truth to them, it's like completely foreign. And the first
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  thing that Satan does to those who are not born again is he fuels anger and fear and anxiety and
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  all these things into them so that their reaction is fight or flight. And that's what we've seen
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  with these debates and how fiery. Not just with him, but like Ben Shapiro and Michael are all the
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  different folks that go out and speak on these speaking tours, Dinesh D'Souza, etc. And we laugh
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  and we get it, you know, in the titles say conservative takes down our own liberal blah blah blah.
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  And that person that is in the other receiving end of this, getting the response back from
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  a Dinesh D'Souza or Ben Shapiro, Charlie, are it broken in a lot of ways. There's certainly
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  every time they get that aha moment and they think, oh, wow, that makes sense. You know,
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  that very rarely happens. It doesn't happen. All the time they walk away and that anger has no outlet
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  other than what they turn to and what the Democrats, the left, I mean, the Democrats going all the
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  way to John Wilkes Booth have no other recourse with the Turner violence. Yeah. And I think that's
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  and I think at this point we're probably going to see the demise of the Democrat party altogether.
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  They may rebrand themselves into something else, but I think there's so much baggage and toxicity
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  with the Democrat party that I don't see how it survives next, either the midterms or the elections,
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  the next elections. So you used a lot of different words in your presentation on that Monday night
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  live. Upheaval was one word, crisis. They didn't really create this crisis, but I think we're in one
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  when it comes to intolerance or free speech. That's a constitutional crisis. And there's a very
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  real battle being played out. I want to just ask you about this. And we didn't talk about this
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  before we got on the podcast, but I've been interested in hearing reports about these chat rooms
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  on different websites that the murderer, the killer, the assassin, Tyler Robinson was a part of.
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  Some of it took place weeks, days and or weeks before. And there's some things that are actually
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  shocking on there. One person said, it'd be funny if someone like Charlie Kirk got shot on September
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  10. Another one, now this is a different person in this chat said, September 10th will be a very
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  interesting day. So there's things like this. And then we did it. Another one said after Charlie
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  Kirk was assassinating. And here's another one. I have something big coming soon. Just be sure to
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  check the news. You'll know when you see it. So this is concern. And I could read more and more
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  and more. I'm sure you guys have heard some of the reports on this, but this was from the Washington
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  Free Beacon exclusive FBI investigating social media accounts that appeared to indicate for
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  knowledge of Kirk assassination. So this is very interesting. And then I've heard at least 20
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  are being looked into. Pete, what are what are you hearing or what do you know? We're not talking
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  about conspiracy because this is open now apparently to the public knowledge.
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  Well, of course, we're seeing the public backlash against, you know, entertainment, entertainment
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  figures like Jimmy Kimmel and other professors and teachers and nurses and doctors and people that
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  are a professional world that are getting fired because of their expressing their joy at the
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  assassination of Charlie Kirk. And like you said, early rightfully so they should be fired.
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  Yeah, and I would even go so far as to say that if there are soldiers or people in the military
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  that have expressed the same sentiments, they should be let go immediately because they clearly
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  have some mental and emotionally issues going on. I don't want them in the ranks, you know,
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  next to when I was in next to me here next to somebody that I know because they're mentally
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  unstable, emotionally unstable. And so there's that there's that backlash for that and it's probably
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  a lot more coming. As far as the what that means in terms of where we are right now, I just feel
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  like whatever happens, if we're talking about the Hageleon dialectic that there is a thesis,
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  antithesis and synthesis, the thesis is from this is from Satan's standpoint, how do I get the
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  total control of the world, right? The antithesis is you create all these problems and the people
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  cry out and demand for more security, more peace, more protection. And that has to come at the cost
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  of something and that comes at the cost of personal liberty, at least in the United States. And so
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  it doesn't matter if it's the left pushing it and they're pushing the lawlessness to promote
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  their agenda and stay in power or it's the right's reaction and trying to combat that lawlessness
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  and bring law in order back into being, there's always there's you know, it's always moving the
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  goalpost, the change forward, right? It's never going to go back to the way it was, just like 9-11
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  changed the way we travel forever. This is going to change, social media, this is going to change
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  what people can post and even in these chat rooms like on Discord and other places that you know,
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  telegram and stuff, there's no, but there's not going to be a safe place to have these kind of
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  discussions apart from the dark met I guess, but even that is probably you know, covered like ants
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  with by the CIA and all these other different agencies in NSA, etc. And it's just a furthering
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  of what I think is going to eventually become the beast kingdom. That when the antichrist comes
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  into power, he has total control, he just takes over, it's not like he has to build this stuff.
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  So this stuff has to come in stages and we're seeing the stages, we're seeing the infrastructure
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  for the beast kingdom being built regardless of the reason whether it's by the left or by the right.
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  It's always moving forward and it's unfortunate that a lot of Christians don't see this as the way
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  of what's happening. They just kind of think, oh, it's you know, it's a terrible tragedy. Don't
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  we think about it and they go back to the lives. In the meantime, there's legislation, there's other
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  things being pushed behind the scenes that are strengthening the government's control over the
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  populace. And the last point to this is that for me, the Charlie's death is not the last turning
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  point. We've had many turning points in the past that that has been very detrimental to mankind.
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  The death of our our Duke Franz Ferdinand, Trigger World War I. We saw the deaths of JFK and MLK
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  kind of sparked the counter, counter revolution movements in the 60s and 70s that have still,
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  we're still feeling repercussions from those things today. And then the growing distrust of the
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  government in general because of the way they've handled the information and how they've chosen
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  to conceal and seal up these documents for so many decades now. It's the last turning point is
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  going to be in my honest opinion, according to scripture, it's going to be the rapture of the
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  church. And when that happens, that is going to be the final crisis that basically inacts all of
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  the stuff that's been built up over these last 20, 30 years. It's now going to come in full force.
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  And after that short period of chaos, the world's going to come back to the government's are going
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  to come back and they're going to be able to clamp down. It'll be like martial law across the world
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  and it's going to be a really terrible time for those people that don't go up in the rapture.
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  Brother, we've got a little bit of time left but that's a good way to direction to take it now
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  because as believers, as Christians, we know the Bible is true and that very well could be
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  one of those last turning points. They're talking about going into a crisis after that with millions,
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  millions and millions of people gone. I can't imagine what Earth or what the United States would look
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  like in that scenario. But is it an interesting piece? If you look back, you and I are old enough
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  to remember before barcodes and technology and the internet and now what we're seeing here, chips,
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  microchips, computers, you know, revelation, just the Bible is just an amazing, an amazing
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  book, an amazing true book that just tells us so much that most people couldn't have imagined.
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  But now we're seeing some of this getting, we're getting so close to some of this, right?
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  We are and it's amazing that 2000 years ago, John was given this information, particularly like
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  Revelation 13 where the world is at some point where it is controlled, they're able to be controlled
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  by a single government led by a single man. And, you know, for, I don't know, the last, you know,
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  1950 years of that 2000 years the church has been around since revelations was written. That was
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  a mystery. They didn't know how that could happen and now we can see how easily that could happen.
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  It's not that it can happen but which way is it going to happen because there's so many different
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  options now that we don't know. We went from having no options and now we have just so many that
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  hardly sure how this is going to play out. But just that act alone of being able to control the
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  governments, the economies and whatnot through central bank digital currencies, you know, basically
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  any type of digital currency that the government has a hand in is going to be able to be manipulated
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  in such a way that they could control buying and selling and they could control
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  who has access to the economy based on your political beliefs or your religious beliefs or whatever.
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  We've seen that happen in Canada. We're seeing that happen in places like the United Kingdom
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  and other and across Europe where the government says, hey, you're an enemy of the state,
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  you're could be in cut off. And we've seen increased political violence and I think the thing
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  that we should keep an eye on in Germany, for example, they had like 15 or 14 or 15 members of
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  this AFD or what they call far right. The political party were assassinated just in the last couple
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  weeks and it's too statistically impossible for that many members of a political party, the same
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  political party to all suddenly die of heart attacks and natural causes. But I think that's speaking
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  to the what's coming is there's a hardening and there's a militarization of everything and
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  there is a increased polarization. There's no the idea of status quo and things just kind of
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  being the way they work. Those days are gone. And that's what I think what people don't realize.
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  Now those days are gone. They're not coming back and what we're going to see eventually after
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  the rapture, when you move the Holy Spirit, the restraining ministry of the Holy Spirit from the
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  earth and remove the Christians from the earth, there was going to be a hardness to people
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  and a viciousness and a violinist that the world has never seen.
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  I agree brother. Great thoughts. And one word that I always had a problem with because it was over
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  used since COVID was unprecedented. Well we're going to continue to use that word but another word
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  that I've really had a problem with is normal. So many people saying well we're just trying to get
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  back to what's the new normal. Can't get back to normal. Think about it though what was normal in
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  our lifetime. Look at abortion. Look at the LGBTQ. Look at Marxism. Look at our government. Look
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  at what you were saying, the control. Look at our public schools. What's normal? Why don't we
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  want normal? And there will never be a new normal. Whatever that means. So we've got to change the
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  terms. I'm tired of that. But in the last two minutes, Pete, give our listeners and viewers a
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  little encouragement that these cycles are historical. We've always had you said 20 years, 80
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  years, there are going to be turning points that we just have to be ready and be prayed up and
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  know the word of God. Just share your final thoughts. When Jesus was asked about the last days by
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  his inner circle of disciples, he gives them, I call this a divine outline. He gives them the
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  outline of what's going to happen in the last days. And it's filled with about 14 or 15 specific
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  signs, but they're kind of generic. So you had wars, rumors of wars, earthquakes, pestilences,
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  etc. But the interesting thing, talking to cycles with Jesus said that they would come like
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  birth pains. And so we know that in the normal pregnancy stages, you have three trimesters.
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  And it's really in the last trimester that the woman begins with the Braxton Hicks contractions.
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  These are the fake contractions. They're too early to be the real thing, but they still feel,
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  you're starting to feel in their painful. And then you start moving into the real contractions.
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  And I think right now we're in that transition between the Braxton Hicks and the actual real
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  contractions that are going to start happening. And they're not going to lessen. They're going to
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  intensify. And they're going to become more frequent. And they're going to become more painful.
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  But know this as a believer that we are not going through the tribulation. We're not going,
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  we're not stepping one toe inside of that 70th week. Not one toe. We're going to
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  revelation three tenses that we will be removed from the hour of the time that this trial is
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  going to come upon the whole world. So that we're going to remove you from the time. Remove out
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  from the time before it ever happens. So right now is the time to really cling to the bless of
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  hope. Titus 2.13 that I'm hearing of our Lord for the church. And I think for us, we've always
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  been accused of being doom and gloomers, but we're not. It's the exact opposite. We are very
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  hopeful because of what lies just very soon right in front of us is the Lord coming. Amen, brother.
• 27:52
  Thanks be to God. We have the victory. God always causes us to triumph. We need to persevere.
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  And one day to time, friends, be encouraged. Pete, thank you again for coming on today.
• 28:04
  Thanks, David. Thank you, friends. God bless you. And as always, keep speaking the truth about
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  things that matter.