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- 0:00Coming up on this week's episode of hip Hop Now podcast, def Jam West
- 0:06S, MC boss passes away, Rhapsody announces a brand new album called Please
- 0:14Don't Cry, and Royceter five to nine believes that Jay Cole is the only
- 0:20competitive rapper today. We're gonna talk about it for sure. Let's do it.
- 0:29Welcome to Hippop Now Podcasts to you from the future. You know what
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- 2:23Now. But because we are trying to push the channel and viewership to the
- 2:31hip Hop Now podcast YouTube channel, that is an exclusive now. It's not
- 2:38gonna We're not producing them at the rate we did before, but we do
- 2:44have seventy plus episodes because of work we put it in the past. So
- 2:50I would say maybe twice a month, maybe once or twice a month for
- 2:55this year. You know, we'll go in and you know, win the
- 2:59topic makes sense we're doing. And the first one we came back with was
- 3:04Raucous Records, talking about the history of that record label, the artists that
- 3:07came out from that record label and whether or not they would ever be another
- 3:13label like Raucous Records. Some say they already exists. I say, not
- 3:19really, but check it out. But coming up we are doing on the
- 3:27next episode, we are basically looking back at the nineteen ninety seven sophomore album
- 3:34double album from Wu Tang Clan Wu Tang Forever. And when I tell you
- 3:39one of the things, like when with any content I create, when you're
- 3:45going back and listening to an album that had an impact on the hip hop
- 3:51game, it's always dope to press play again and just you feel like you're
- 3:57getting transported back to that time because I probably listened to thirty six Chambers on
- 4:02a regular basis. Then I do Wu Tang Forever, Wu Tang Forever.
- 4:06You know, we hear Triumph all the time, and every now and again
- 4:10I may hear another song, but it had been a while since I just
- 4:14listened to Wu Tang Forever, which is a very dope album, So stay
- 4:16tuned for that. It'll be right here on the channel and all that good
- 4:19stuff. And the other thing before we get into it is the cassette tape
- 4:28series I have going on right twelve episodes in taking a quick break, then
- 4:32I'll hit you out with another twelve. But it's basically, if you're watching
- 4:36on YouTube, there's a bunch of cassettes behind me. There's some cassettes hear
- 4:41in my garage, and what I do is I pull out a tape,
- 4:45pick up the phone. So yo yo, tell of the tapes. I
- 4:48tell you the story about when I purchased it, what I thought about that
- 4:53album, and what I think about it today. So albums featured were like
- 4:57X Clans, Exodus, the That's the Biz Moncky, Bookie Monster's debut album,
- 5:03the jay z Ken Knocker Hustle remixed single. And I have a lot
- 5:11of tapes because back then in the early mid nineties, I didn't have a
- 5:16CD player, So you know, I would go and just buy a tape.
- 5:20Like every week if I had money, I was going to the record
- 5:24store. It didn't matter if nothing was out. I was doing like research,
- 5:29reading sauce and all of that good stuff and just trying to exhorb as
- 5:33much as I could as far as information on album. So when I went
- 5:36to the record store, I was like I knew what I was looking for,
- 5:40or I knew what I wanted to get so this series, there's plenty
- 5:44of these cassettes are from a specific era in the nineties. I do have
- 5:48some from the late nineties, because you know, we're still rocking tapes.
- 5:53But I did have a CD play about it, So that's on the channel.
- 5:58Check it out. Twelve episodes is pretty now. The other thing and
- 6:05this is the last thing. But for those who followed this podcast for years,
- 6:11let's just say, and those who don't know, I wrote a book
- 6:15back in twenty eighteen basically doing the same things I do here as far as
- 6:21content creation about albums and classic albums in particular in my experience when I first
- 6:31heard them and when I purchased them. So whereas the tape series is a
- 6:35quick hit, y'all, I bought this, blah blah blah, some of
- 6:39those tapes or the classic versions, like let's just say, like the chronic
- 6:44are flushed out because I tell the complete story of me going somewhere and buying
- 6:50it, what I was feeling in the situation and what the time was and
- 6:54how I felt. So I have a sub stack and I'll probably link that
- 6:59here where I'm gonna start to release those stories, those chapters piece by piece,
- 7:08So what I posted recently is a prologue to the book, so you
- 7:13can check it out kind of see what my angle is. And then after
- 7:17that I'll start releasing chapter after chapter. So the link to read all of
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- 7:54bit. I see y'all, y'all getting better and a couple of places where
- 7:58I get some of these stories from us in right to the business stuff.
- 8:05So recently this week, Deaf Jam West pioneer recording artists Boss passed away.
- 8:16Her real name was Michelle Marie Laws and she was the first female rapper signed
- 8:22to death Jam. Her album debuted in nineteen ninety three called Born Gangsters and
- 8:33she's I believe she's from Detroit to be honest, but well, hold on,
- 8:41let me just make sure I get the situation before I get over the
- 8:43place. This is coming from hip hopdx dot com. While no cause of
- 8:46death death has yet been released. Boss was known to have struggled in the
- 8:50past with kidney failure. So it's kind of what I thought. I know
- 8:54she had some issues, some health issues over time, and there was some
- 9:00scares like in recent years, but she passed away. I believe she was
- 9:05only something like fifty six, I think, so I can't remember, and
- 9:11I don't have that in front of me. She was fifty four. If
- 9:18you were outside, if you were old enough to know hip hop back in
- 9:22the days in ninety three, like I said, I you know, that
- 9:28was my time for getting tapes born. Gangster Boss was like the first hardcore
- 9:37West Coast style female EMC. Just for context, when you look at the
- 9:45eighties, you had Queen Latifa, you had JJ Fad, you know,
- 9:50you had you had MC Light of course, Antoinette, you had all these
- 9:56moony Love all these female MC Salt and Peppa had a particular style that reflected
- 10:03the times right and one thing that always stood out was that, you know,
- 10:07they kind of always had like a crew that was like a cold sign
- 10:11in some regards like a crew of males basically, whether it was I'm a
- 10:16part of the Juice Crew like Rocks and Chante or you know, Flavor Unit
- 10:22with like Queen Latifa and stuff like that, even though she was kind of
- 10:24one of the heads of that. But there was always this typical mc right,
- 10:33you know, not really that feminine, you know what I'm saying,
- 10:37except for like Nikki D. Like Nikki D y'all, y'all just be sleeping
- 10:41on. Nik was nice. I remember seeing her battling dudes, battling dudes,
- 10:46you know, But what the boss it was different, right, because
- 10:54this is nineteen ninety three. West Coast hip hop is everything you remember,
- 11:01Like all you gotta do is just pop in what is it? Grand Theft
- 11:05Auto San Andres. That was everything West Coast back then. The movies were
- 11:11that, the music was that, the rappers were that, you know,
- 11:13it was like gangster music, and you didn't usually when you saw the ladies
- 11:18it was different. It was like the ladies, right, you know,
- 11:22the way the hair were done, you know, the dancing, if they
- 11:26had some kind of tomboyish with them, a situation with them, it was
- 11:31like like empty light like a you know, like a B girl, but
- 11:35with Boss, she was like the equivalent of Easy but a lady, you
- 11:39know what I'm saying, the equivalent of ice Cube but a female. And
- 11:45I think that's what made her stand out amongst the ladies, because I know,
- 11:50at least initially, I didn't know who she was tied to, so
- 11:54I just saw her video and I was like, yo, who is this
- 11:58And the beat dope and the way she was rhyming was dope. It was
- 12:05different, you know what I mean at that time, And I think she
- 12:09had a huge impact on hip hop alone, because you know, in other
- 12:18ways also, like look at somebody like Little Kim or Foxy where they brought
- 12:22They really brought the sexuality to the forefront in a blatant way. You know,
- 12:28Salt and Pepper did too, but these were more so, you know,
- 12:33little subdued Little Kim and Foxy was just like, no, some of
- 12:37us ladies feel exactly just as vulgar as the men, okay, Whereas Boss
- 12:43was that but for the hardcore version of a female MC of being. Like
- 12:50if Nikki d was equivalent to a spitter from New York, that was the
- 12:54same thing for Boss. When it came to the West Coast as far as
- 13:00j and the type of music that was being made. And I think she
- 13:03only had one album, I believe, or at least that's the one that
- 13:09everybody remembers, her debut album. But you know, again, she she
- 13:16had an impact. You could see everybody from eminem you know what I'm saying,
- 13:20from Snoop Dogg to everybody you know, paying homage to her. Because
- 13:26when she came out, you know, people talked about it. You know,
- 13:30people bought it, People dug her. People liked the fact that a
- 13:33woman was doing this and not flippity gool glibbity gool. Sorry, MONI love.
- 13:39I know that's kind of you, but it's not, you know what
- 13:41I mean. Like it was. It was different, it was hard to
- 13:43edge, it was reality, and people liked it and she was dope.
- 13:50So rest in peace to Boss Staying in the lane with the ladies. One
- 13:58of my favorite Rhapsody has a new album on the way. It's called Please
- 14:05Don't Cry. She recently announced. So actually it's been five years. It's
- 14:11been five years since her last album, which I think is so so slept
- 14:20on, so slept on, like Rhapsody can kind of be slept on as
- 14:24an artist in general. But I feel like they were giving her a lot
- 14:30of props for Layla's wisdom, whereas her last album Eve was like an in
- 14:37an early situation, like early nineties or whatever, this would be. It
- 14:45would be a classic if you asked me. She had different flows, She
- 14:48showed range, you know, the beats were there, you know, the
- 14:52concepts was crazy, was all dedicated to women. But now she's back.
- 14:56The album's called Please Don't Cry. It's supposed to drop on May seventeenth,
- 15:05so we got some time before it's out. She did drop a new single
- 15:09that I thought was pretty dope, so that's exciting right to get started.
- 15:15But this album also has a lot of features on it, big time features
- 15:20Lil Wayne, Erka Bado, hit Boy on the Beats, Baby Tait,
- 15:24I don't think I know. That is Alex Eisley and it's going to be
- 15:31about twenty two songs. Wait, let's see Anderson Fox on here. Also
- 15:37Felicia Rashard from The cosmby Shure Young It's on here. So yeah, it's
- 15:43a thing where in general, you know, Rhapsody is a very dope artist
- 15:48who doesn't get the props she deserves, at least to me, not on
- 15:52the scale. She deserves it for having skill and also doing it on the
- 15:58highest level. I was messing with Rhapsody when you know she was working with
- 16:03ninth and had sort of like the independent I guess they're independent. I don't
- 16:07know albums, but mixtapes also where I thought she was dope, And I
- 16:14think the best part about her was the fact that she could she could talk
- 16:19about relationships from a female perspective and not have dudes tune, now you know
- 16:26what I mean. Like, most dudes back in the nineties were big fans
- 16:30of Mary J. Blige, right, and obviously she's talking about dudes.
- 16:36Dudes was fans of Little Kim. Obviously she's talking her about her sexuality from
- 16:41a from a female perspective, and for some dudes. It's for people in
- 16:48general. You when you like music, it's because you can relate to the
- 16:52person who to the artists, right, and the lyrics, and sometimes it's
- 16:56difficult to relate to a woman's side of a relationship when you're basically always going
- 17:03to be the male in it. Right. So the album itself is basically
- 17:08as far as concept goes, it's basically going to describe the discovery of her
- 17:15journey, self discovery, self acceptance that she is, you know, basically
- 17:21put into this album a lot of time to reflect between albums on herself and
- 17:26to be honest, and Rhapsody fans already noticed this is when Rhapsody is at
- 17:32her best because she's never too you know, bar King or Queen to show
- 17:41her vulnerability on tracks. She's an excellent songwriter, you know what I mean,
- 17:45Like a rapper can write about drugs and being the best MC and all
- 17:51this other stuff all the time, and after a while, it's just becomes
- 17:55something you do. But it's very difficult for some rappers to truly take their
- 18:03art or take their technique and apply it to their real life or real life
- 18:08situations and convey it in a way that connects with people, connects with the
- 18:14listeners. And that's what I mean about Rhapsody. She is very good at
- 18:19doing that. And with these guest appearances or the high level quality of a
- 18:26production which she showed on her last album, for sure, I think this
- 18:32could be one of the best of the year if done right. And the
- 18:37first single just let me know that, Okay, I'm liking what I'm hearing.
- 18:41The production the first single was with her and hit Boy. I'm like,
- 18:45I'm liking what I'm hearing. This might be crazy, so we'll see
- 18:49what happens. And lastly, so Royster five nine appeared recently on the Joe
- 18:59Budden Pie and he said J Cole was the only competitive rapper today. Before
- 19:07we get into that, let's look at some quotes. I haven't taken a
- 19:12real deep look out into the landscape, but from where I'm sitting, it
- 19:18looks like J Cole the only one being competitive. He's the only one who's
- 19:22rapping with the kind of conviction that says I still value the number one spot.
- 19:26As a lyricist, see a lot of the younger generation not really hanging
- 19:30their hat on just the lyrical part of creativity at all. They're finding different
- 19:36ways to impact and resonate with people, which is fine. That's when the
- 19:41elder statesmen like myself start learning. I want to make myself understand why is
- 19:47this touching people like that? I can't even understand what they're saying. It's
- 19:52definitely moving away from lyricism being the caveat which I'm cool with because there's a
- 19:59lot more things I can do without being lyrical lyrical. So before you get
- 20:07up in arms about who's nice you know, and who he's overlooking or ignoring
- 20:14or not paying attention to, think about this when you say J Cole,
- 20:21J Cole is not in the same lane as far as as far as status
- 20:27as Griselda, you know, west Side, Thanny Conway, Stove God,
- 20:36other rappers like Mickey Fax and even Loop a Fiasco right Like, these are
- 20:41people who I'm naming who could spit, you know, RJ Payin, people
- 20:45who who could spit. They're not in the same lane as J Cole when
- 20:51it comes to status in the hip hop game. So when you hear him
- 20:56say something like that and say he can't even understand what they're saying, you
- 21:00know he's not talking about those rappers because, whether you like it or not,
- 21:07J Cole competes with other rappers who aren't even lyrical at all as far
- 21:15as status. He competes for the same fans. He competes for a similar
- 21:21spotlight. And what's dope is you know he has been on the song with
- 21:27like Benny the Butcher, you know. So I think in a lot of
- 21:30ways I agree with Royce the five to nine from that standpoint, because even
- 21:37Royce, Royce and j Cole are not on the same status level. They're
- 21:42not right, we're checking for Royce. This is the difference, right us
- 21:49heads are checking for all those people I name, including j Cole. The
- 21:56fans that really probably make up J Cole are checking for Ja Cole and not
- 22:02checking for any other people I name. They're checking for the yachtis and the
- 22:06Gucci's and you know what I'm saying, and the you know, the lills,
- 22:10all the lives or put them all together, all the lills, all
- 22:12the big babies, little babies, all of them, put them together.
- 22:17That's what they're checking for. So that becomes his competition, and he's the
- 22:23only one who is like aggressive in trying to prove that he is the best
- 22:32one spitting on this level. Now some would say, well, of course
- 22:36you're the best one spending on that level one, that's your competition. But
- 22:40it's the truth. It's really just unfortunately showing what roy said that people don't
- 22:52really care about lyricism like that, because if they did, there would be
- 22:56more than just Jake Cole on that level. Once upon a time, kids,
- 23:03everybody on that level was a spitting But now it's almost like Jake Cole
- 23:08is maybe he's not being the most competitive, but maybe he's the only one
- 23:12trying to keep it alive on that level. That's the point, right Royce.
- 23:18He knows that there are plenty of people included him, who are just
- 23:23as competitive, but Jake Cole is the only one because Kendrick not really concerned
- 23:30about that. Kendrick is more concerned about making music that resonates with people,
- 23:36and every now and again he might give you a bar, or he'll give
- 23:37you a song where you you know it's the play of skill. But he's
- 23:44not who he used to be. Drake gotta be in a beef or somebody
- 23:48get mad at him or say his album for you to even get some sort
- 23:52of competitiveness out of him. But j Cole is actively actively trying to keep
- 24:00the hip hop casuals thinking bars matter. He fighting a good fight, that's
- 24:11what they're doing. He fighting a good fight. So now let's talk about
- 24:15it from an other perspective. Okay, let's just say everybody rapping, is
- 24:21he the only one being competitive? Nope? I think I think Royce,
- 24:26even though he hasn't dropped the joy in a while, but apparently working on
- 24:30Prime three with Premier, I think we'll see, like, yep, he's
- 24:36still spit. I think Benny and Conway and Stove God and r J Pain
- 24:40and cast like that, who you know, the bars or something else like
- 24:47that's what they care about and yeah, shout out, I am God man
- 24:49like casts like that are like technicians with the wordplay. But the unfortunate part,
- 24:57and going back to the main point, is when you look at the
- 25:03mainstream level, on a mainstream level, J Cole is above a lot of
- 25:11those guys. No, he's above all of them on a mainstream level,
- 25:15and everybody else in that mainstream level is either on a different path or subpar
- 25:22lyrically. And he's the only one that raps like lyrics still matters. And
- 25:27that's just what it is. Man. So I don't know. You tell
- 25:32me what do you think about Boys to five nine's comments? Do you remember
- 25:37Boss from back in ninety three? You know what I'm saying. Leave your
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