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• Michael: Is it at zero yet? It's at zero. Okay. We're we're zeroed. We're zeroed. We're zeroed in. We're zeroed in. Zeroed in. Doing good. Pat, it's hot out. It's yeah. It drives me fucking. All I could do is walk outside and be like, I can't wait for winter. All you assholes that love summer so much. Is this really that much better than walking in 30 degrees? I I can't I can't really say it is. No, I have to like. Walk with my hands out in front of me so I can cut through the humidity, you know? Yeah. I'm s I'm swimming out there. Yeah. You know what's also pretty ⁓ overlooked when it comes to the summer attire? What's that? Lack of pockets while walking. Dude, yeah, I know. You it looks weird to just have your pockets in your jeans walking around, you know? Yeah. I like pockets. ⁓ yeah, but it looks oddly suspicious if you're not whistling. So then you gotta whistle while you have your p hands in your pockets and I can't whistle so it just looks weird. Right. ⁓ boy. Yeah. No, I've never I guess I never really got that far with it. Yeah, man. I'd miss my pockets 'cause when you're wearing a coat, you always got pockets in your coat. You got multiple got multiple options. Fall is fall and spring are my best like attires. Like my best wardrobe, you know? Get to kind of bust out the flannel, but hey, is it it's still gonna be like sixty-five today? Cool. I'll roll up the sleeves, still look a fly as fuck, you know? Exactly. Instead of ⁓ everything shoved into my two pockets on my shorts. Just bulging out. It looks ridiculous. Right? ⁓ bulging out. We got we got a little sidetrack, but we were we were talking about Tupac. Tupac. I got I got stuck on one of the ⁓ the YouTubes ⁓ they actually have like three or four full-length documentaries about this on YouTube. On Tupac? Yeah, on the Tupac Biggie murders specifically. There's one about the cover up. There's one from like Sug Knight did it. There's one about Keefey D who did it, and like the the blood crip thing. Who is Keefy D? So this is new. So setting the scene a little bit. Just a little investigative detective work, right? So when Pac was murdered, as you know, it was the night of the Tyson fight, the big Mike Tyson fight. Yeah. He was in Las Vegas. After the fight, Tupac got in that tussle in the casino. After the fight? I think it was after the fight. I thought it was before the fight. Yeah. I can't remember in the timeline if it was before or after. But it was it was that same evening, right? And what was his name? Orlando something or other. I forget his last name, but it was Orlando, was one of the guys in the fight who was a I think he was a Crip affiliated. Uh-huh. So they get into the big fight and then Tupac and Sug leave the casino. And there's like he's got his entourage, right? There's what his car, two cars behind him. Yeah. In like the left lane. On the right lane, there's the dark, what they think is a dark green Impala. And then there's the white Cadillac behind that. The shots come from the white Cadillac. It's like five bullets. They all go through the door and the window. Shoot killing hitting Tupac. And then Suge had like one graze off his head or something like that. The white Cadillac takes off, the Impala takes off as the Cadillac turns right down. I think it's Flamingo Boulevard. Yep. Yep. Yep. the Flamingo and Colville. Yep. The Impala is there also. But the car, what was it, behind Tupac, or maybe the one in front, follows the Cadillac. And there's another shootout where they're kind of exchanging gunshots. And the poor girls in that green impala. There was just passengers in there. They're just along for the ride. Yeah. Just a couple of girls leaving the fight, you know? And they were just like caught in the whole fucking middle of this thing. God. So I haven't they written a book yet. They had to, right? Yeah. I think I think this was after the fight and ⁓ obviously the shootout was after the fight. I think the scuffle in the casinos was before the fight. No, you're right. It was after. It was all after. Okay. This is all after. Yeah. So Tupac's last words were fuck you or fuck the police or something like that. ⁓ so that and that's like a big issue of why it's like a quote unquote unsolved mystery, right? Or an unsolved murder. Because like it's street rules, right? You don't talk to the five ⁓ Yeah. Fuck you. Yeah. And what they kept him alive for six days. He ended up dying in the hospital ⁓ from his gunshot wounds. Supposedly. We'll get into that later. Supposedly, I I heard a new one about that. so Keefe D was the leader of the I think it was the Southside Crips. That Orlando character that was involved with the tussle at the casino was his nephew. Yeah, baby Lane. Orlando Baby Lane Anderson, rival game. And then there was two other guys, like a T Brown and like one other guy, ⁓ in the car. Keefy D in so what this happened ninety-six, I think it was. Yep. Keefy D s said in I think it was like two thousand five, I wanna say, five or six, came back and like revisited it and said it was him that ⁓ either order like Was it ordered it or was in the car and Orlando was the one who actually pulled the the trigger? Did they know it was Tupac? Yeah. Because the entourage and they knew that he was gonna be coming out like in these three g ⁓ like escalades. They wanted to mess with Tupac. No, they they knew that it was Tupac because all of the people in the crowd saw Tupac drive by. And all the girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I get it. But like so they got in a fight with Tupac, and instead of walking away and being like, Yeah, Tupac's an asshole, but man, he makes him fucking bangin' music. They just said, Let's go kill him instead. So this is where things get a little weird, right? So couple months before that, Puff Daddy was in LA and this was kind of like the height of the ⁓ East West Coast rivalry because what I think if I have my timeline right, a couple months before Tupac's death was an attempted shooting on Biggie in New York. No, no, it was attempted shooting on no, it was attempted shooting on Big E ⁓ on Tupac and Tupac blamed Biggie 'cause it happened at Big E studio. Right, right, right, right, right. And there's ⁓ and there's some people are starting to murmur that ⁓ that that was that was P. Diddy that put that one together. Yep. But Tupac never never like never let it go and always put it on Biggie that it was his fault. Because then he had that sh song. ⁓ that's Yeah, that's when they started singing about like both of ⁓ man. ⁓ my god. Like you kiss your mother with that mouth. Like Jesus Christ. I fucked your bitch. That's the first line. And then it gets worse from there. Right. He was he was a angry boy. Yeah. Rightfully so. But I mean, if if it was proven anyway. so so Keefe D was at a party with P. Diddy, and this is all alleged. Now Keefy D is actually in prison because of his affiliation, which is another cop cover up we can talk about. But ⁓ Keefy D went to prison. Because all this, but he was at a party where he heard ⁓ Diddy say he'll give a million dollars to whoever kills these guys. And how much baby oil? Two palletfuls. so that's what Keefy D said is that it was actually Diddy that like ordered the hit, quote unquote. This baby oil motherfuckers got a lot of money. Right. ⁓ okay. so so yeah, they did that and then so they Keefy D is the one who was actually tried and actually like ⁓ in jail with what is it? What is it called? ⁓ an accessory. An accessory to the fact. Sure. Before diving into all the the avenues here, should we just explain the normal timeline of what was going on here? Yeah. So 1990s, obviously rap is is the is the new rock, I guess you could say, really, taking over the sound waves. Then WA coming out, like you said, there was a huge rivalry between West Coast, East Coast rap. Biggie and Tupac were the two biggest names, Tupac from the West, Biggie from the East. And they were actually starting to become civil. You know, they were trying to get rid of this this ⁓ east east west thing. But in the background you have ⁓ you have fucking what's Suge Knight on the West Coast side, who's I don't want to say he's definitely not a producer, but he's he's the muscle, kind of ties or whatnot. And then on the east you do have producer slash baby doiled up. P. Diddy, who at that point was Puff Daddy. Sorry. I just can't not picture him like totally dressed. I just like to picture people going in for a handshake and just slipping and sliding. It's like, ⁓ Fucking wiping their hand on their shirt. But with the cartoon noise, like they're slipping on the banana peel. Wee wee wee weo. Yeah. Fucking telling them to s Puff, keep your fucking hands off the dashboards here, man. Fucking up the soundboard. Do you know how much I spend in dry cleaning because of you? Stop with the hugs. Can't sit down there. Sorry. ⁓ sorry. Anyways. Anyways. Then ⁓ Tupac gets shot while his while he's in New York, which really starts a fire because he always blames it on Biggie. Was it shot or shot at? Did he get he was shot? He was shot at. I believe he was shot. I believe he was shot. Don't I would check that. But I believe he was shot. maybe just shot anyways, so he goes back to California, fucking fire really starts, they're distracking each other left and right, feud's never been bigger. They're actually talking about how they're gonna fucking kill each other. And then in September of nineteen ninety-six, Tupac is at that Mike Tyson fight at the events we described, and he dies ⁓ like a week later in the hospital. Mm-hmm. And Biggie does show remorse. He said that I had nothing to do with this. This is this is terrible. Excuse me. I had to put a little bit more liquid IV in my in my wine. But any sorry. It does both. It hydrates and dehydrates. It keeps you neutral. At the same time. Same, same. Liquid IV. And then from the please please ⁓ let us promote your product on our podcast. Sorry. And then from there, ⁓ Biggie comes out with his newest album, the hypnotized album, and he is promoting his C D ⁓ over on the West Coast, thinking that it's safe, even though a lot of people were warning him not to go. And he is shot at ⁓ leaving his party in a drive by and he dies right there in the scene. And both are cemented in history at that point. Weren't they both like twenty three? Twenty four, twenty five. Yeah. Dude, children. Yeah, I always think they're like fifty. I always think that they're way older than me. Yeah. What humanizes it is there there's that ⁓ there's that series where it's actually the McPoyle brother plays the ⁓ plays the main detective, Russell Poole, who's a pretty big player in the whole thing. But ⁓ they show ⁓ running around the backyards, like shooting guns at each other, like play like pretending to shoot guns at each other, like geez, these guys were like children. You know? Mm-hmm. so that's like that's the first one. The first like theory is that that's not a theory though. ⁓ sorry. That Diddy's Diddy ordered like the hit because of that whole rivalry thing that ⁓ Diddy was getting the the Southside Crips to do something. So it look like a blood crip thing. Sure. Yeah, but I think that's kind of new. I think for I think for a long time the narrative was that Suge was the mastermind behind everything. For sure. And he had the track record behind him to prove it too and support it because Suge was like, he's a awful dude. Suge Knight is a bad person. Yeah. Like he's a bully. There's there's only a couple people that you could like definitively say they are bad people, just from like media attention. Suge is one of them. Yes. ⁓ ⁓ but there was also a reason why he would do it too. Because of the albums, right? What do you mean? So I heard that Suge was worried that Pac was gonna leave Death Row. That ⁓ Pock had signed like a kind of a handwritten contract with Suge and ⁓ Death Row that he would do three albums, a minimum of three albums. And then he would be free to like do his own thing. And he had put out All Eyes on Me, which is a two album record, and he was planning to do his third and then dip out. So so Suge was already kinda like angry at him. That was a new thing I kinda heard today. I the story also is that he had a bunch of unpaid royalties that he owed Pach. That obviously those albums did very, very well. And ⁓ Tupac wasn't rightfully paid for him, so that he was gonna leave also just because of not getting paid for for his work. And so then he got Biggie killed because just to be like, ⁓ no no, see it wasn't me. It was fucking Biggie. ⁓ Put the blame over on the See that's where I like stopped doing the homework though, is like, ⁓ I know this is in correlation to Biggies, but who who killed Biggie? ⁓ like the person, like the KPD or that or who he was associated with. I just didn't know like if it was like a direct retaliation or if it was like timeline related, you know, like a cool I don't know. It it's a it's a weird coincidence if it is. I don't think it is, but there's the thought that I mean, cause Biggie was over in California when he got killed. So there just was Tupac's people that were there just knew Big E was there and they retaliated. Yeah. So that's the theory. Yeah. Yeah. Now, this is a little bit of a sidebar. Do you think that because Tupac and Biggie were now no longer in the rap game, rest in peace, that it opened the door for Wu Tang? Do you think Wu Tang would have been as Tup was already around. But what what year did thirty six chambers come out? Like ninety three. Was it that early? I always thought it was much later than that. Nineteen ninety three. Yeah. ⁓ tango, yeah, they were already out. My bad. My bad. No. What if Sug Knight and Diddy were actually working together? I mean, with everything that's been coming out about Diddy and the parties and you know all that kind of new shit, even like Michael Jackson might have been framed as a pedo. Right. And like all this kind of like speculation or skepticism, right? About what we thought was true. I wouldn't I wouldn't be too surprised if Suge and Puff were were working together on it. I don't know, man. Maybe Charlie Sheen really did drink tiger blood. Maybe. ⁓ Maybe that's a true one too. I don't I don't know what to believe in anymore. Because I thought the same thing about Michael. I was like, you know what? Maybe 'cause all young kids, like the celebrities, the Codies and stuff, were saying that he was the only one trying to protect him. But still kind of weird to have him sleep over. There's a lot of still still a little strange. I actually just watched that whole verdict. He made it on Netflix pretty easy to pick the you know, the scapegoat. For sure. Now, in in Michael's defense, right? The only thing that I could like see from like a fucked up psychological perspective is that Michael didn't have a childhood, you know. I don't think at the height of the Jackson Five he was having friends over, you know. No. And in like a weird way he was having those kids come over and hang out to Again, this is a psycholog like obviously he was fucked up. I mean, there's a grown man hanging out with children, right? There's a time and place, right? Go home at the end of the photo shoot. You know, like go go back to your own house. Right. High five and get out of here. Right. Exactly. Here's a picture and an autograph. You could sell that in four years for half a million dollars. but I think of like a weird psychological thing, right? He might have been like trying to be a kid again. I mean, look at Neverland Ranch, right? I mean, that whole thing was an amusement park, right? I mean, if I had that much money, I'd have a monkey. Yeah, for I'd have a couple. I'd have a couple. And a little roller coaster. Petting zoo. Why would I not have a petting zoo? That's I mean, that's beyond fuck you money at that point. Yeah. Which he had. Right. That was that was fuck it money. I've also heard that he was castrated as a kid, which is why he was always able to sing so high. Because it also I mean, if you look at his brothers, they all look like fucking football players. Mm-hmm. Like they are they are big burly men. Yeah, and then Tito? And then you have kind of frail dainty Michael. Right. Yeah. I mean I still sing high. Right. And then I mean, if you get castrated to be able to sing high, right, I'm sure your frontal lobe's not developing, so your, you know, right and wrong isn't going to be developed. I don't know enough about castration to say I know how how it affects the brain and frontal lobe, Michael. Yeah, neither do I. I would like to think it has something to do with like ⁓ not having enough testosterone to kind of like level I d I don't know. I don't know. That's not physiology. But I mean it's still developed enough to know that petting zoos are fucking awesome. ⁓ And so are monkeys. And so are monkeys. They wanted me to play in Argentina. I said, No, you're gonna give me that monkey. ⁓ but yeah, I mean I don't think I don't think it's outrageous to think that maybe Suge and Buff were behind it, right? If we kill these dudes, they're gonna be cemented in history as the greatest rap artists of all time, which they are, right? And then we're just gonna reap the royalties from it. I don't know, man. I think that's just our generation. Do you think? Yeah. The younger generation Puts ⁓ Tupac and Biggie on their Mount Rushmore. Cause like they make fun of Eminem. So what's them to stop making fun of Tupac and Biggie? Yeah, I don't know. I think I don't know. I mean No respect. I didn't one, I didn't know that the young generation makes fun of Eminem. Better watch your mouth. I didn't know that. so that's surprising. I'm processing that. But I I would I would think so, you know. Like 'cause the the albums that they did release, which is another weird thing we should talk about, right? I mean, are like I I don't think it matters who you are, what generation you are, I think those are still some of the best rap albums of all time, right? Hell yeah. But now ⁓ Go ahead. Go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say, speaking of albums and songs, there was a lot of songs where Tupac was talking about faking his own death. Yep. And the whole Machiavelli thing, right? Yeah, pal. ⁓ huh. Yeah. So so this is one I wanted to mention when I was talking about kind of like the timeline earlier, is that supposedly in the conspiracy theory r world about ⁓ Tupac's death, is that they paid off the hospital, the coroner, and then the cre the guy who cremated his body, supposedly. To to say certain things so he could escape to Cuba. And now what within the last I think it was like last what six, seven years or so, there's been videos coming out of somebody who looks suspiciously like Tupac hanging out in Cuba. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. There's a lot of people that look a lot like other people. Exactly. And if the If the monkey was out of the bottle that I was in Cuba, I wouldn't stay in Cuba. No, you'd have to move every couple of years, you know. Exactly. Like you'd have to constantly you'd have to be like G B's dad in Angel has fallen, you know? Yeah, exactly. so that was one kind of theory. Now the other thing about like the ⁓ the murders in and of itself was the detective Russell Poole. Originally when he was investigating in ninety-six, he was saying that the feds and then the local LAPD were paid off by Suge to give false information about who actually killed Tupac and Biggie. Or at least Tupac, because nobody was talking, right? The LAPD were known for ⁓ doing security. For Death Row and their shows and like their offices. Really? ⁓ yeah. ⁓ so they yeah. So it I think it was disproven though in like 2000, I think it was, where like somebody reopened the case and then he was like, No, this guy was full of shit. But that was like one part of like the cop cover up portion of it, is that they didn't actually want us rat on who it was. So there was a rat in the police, like the LAPD is what you're saying. ⁓ no, the LAPD were not being rats. And they were purposely misguiding the detectives. Yep. They didn't want to spill the beans on who actually did it. So they could not surprise. Yeah. I mean and I think this was like after the whole Rodney King thing too. This was way after Rodney King. Yeah. That was like ninety one or ninety two. Yeah. So I'm I made six years after a major event like that, I'm sure some of it's still kind of running around that ⁓ they just didn't want to talk, you know, and they're not gonna talk to any cops about it. You you know how I like to picture my Tupac and Biggie? ⁓ I like to picture my Tupac and Biggie where ⁓ one of them found out that Suge and Diddy were working together to kill them and they found this out beforehand. And so they've both faked their own deaths. They b and now they hang out together and they ghostwrite for for ⁓ country artists. For country artists. They're ghostwriting for Taylor Swift. That's why she's so popular. I like I like to think that my my Tupac and Beggie did did the same thing, but they they groomed some body doubles to be a part of it. So now they're living in Barbados doing fishing charters. Fishing charters? Yeah. I like to picture my Tupac and Biggie, ⁓ obviously same situation, but going out to like a small place in Tuscany and, you know, working like a nice little olive tree farm, something along those lines. They're the ones that created the Carlos Rossi jugs of wine, 'cause it only makes sense. Thank God. Thank God. Yeah, so there was what? That, the Sugnight thing, P. Diddy, those were all kind of like hanging out as like the the causes of it. There's another big one. Hit me. so again, nineties really changed like rock and roll was the major genre of music for a long time. Yep. And then the nineties you see a complete switch of of rap really overtaking the sound waves. ⁓ yeah. And so some people if you wanna get real kooky, ⁓ Tupac and Biggie were plants for the CIA. ⁓ Because you've never heard that one? No. Yeah. They could have been plants for the CIA and things went haywire from there. But I mean, 'cause if you really believe in ⁓ the CIA going controlling music and you kind of can follow it from the seventies. Eighties everyone was on cocaine, so who knows what was going on then. But then the nineties with rap taking over, 'cause the CIA wanted to mess with that kind of stuff, so Yeah. Yeah. Well again CIA. That kind of tracks because right the CIA were the ones that introduced crack cocaine in the late 80s, right? Exactly. ⁓ to under Reagan, I think it was, right? ⁓ I think it was Reagan or Carter. Anyway, it might have been the first Bush. It could have been too. Yeah. ⁓ anyway, I mean, but the fact is first big Bush. Not not the little Bush. That's a little bush. Did some fucked up shit in his own right. But ⁓ they introduced crack cocaine, which was decimating urban areas. Like and I think decimating is the right word to use there because it ran rampant, right, through both New York and LA. And then you had these two major African American like idols, right? Kind of pulling people out off the street. I think ⁓ NWA were able to avoid it because they were Talking about how they didn't want to reference gang life. And then ever like you can see them in interviews, how mad that they get at reporters saying, like, you know, are you affiliated with anybody? And it's like, we don't we don't want to talk about this, right? Yeah, but they kind of do sing about it. I know they just singing about what they're seeing in the streets. Right. But but they don't you can't make a song called Gangsta Gangsta. Right. And and not be like Man, why are you asking me about this stuff? Yeah. I think it was maybe the other thing is is that they didn't use that like bloods and crips to like prop up their image. Now you could argue because cause Dre did get involved with Death Row Records at the very beginning, which was a very blood oriented organization. Yeah, but Tupac was never a blood. He was just honorary. Yep. Now was was Biggie a blood or a crip? I don't know. I wanna say like some of what was it, Mob Deep Junior Mafia? I forgot Junior Mafia stands for ⁓ Masters at Finding Intelligent Attitudes. ⁓ I did not know that. I didn't know that was an acronym. ⁓ but I wanna say that they had or at least that's what the media was propping up anyway, right? These gangs, right? And the music is so dangerous and stuff like that. That I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA was weasling around in there, you know, trying to keep things from getting too popular or word getting out. I mean, because when you're as big as Pock and Biggie, I mean you got the whole world at your fingertips. You can kind of say whatever you want, you know? Yeah, but it's not the same reach because I mean it's not like they had social media back. You gotta understand there was no internet back then. So if you weren't listening to a record or Reading an article, you didn't have to you wasn't like front and center, like how it is now, where you just get a fucking notification. How how crazy is that though? Like you put out a disc track, right? And it's like what six months of music production to put a album together on the on the quick end of things? Yeah. Are you even mad by the time it gets released? I forgot about that song. Shit, I put it out like six months ago. ⁓ dude Dan and then they're just hearing about it, you know, like I just had dinner with him and his wife last week. ⁓ God, this is gonna blow up in my face so bad. I better call him. I'm sorry, man. It's not what it looks like. Man. Supposed to go to a birthday party next weekend again. ⁓ this is gonna be awkward as fuck. Yeah. I I wouldn't be surprised if the CIA had their ⁓ their their dirty little paws in in the whole operation. Also again, it was a time before internet where whistleblowers weren't nearly ⁓ as big of a predominant thing as they are now. So I kinda wonder 'cause really back then the media could do whatever they want. We would have no fucking idea. Right. ⁓ that that was like the very tail end of like media integrity, you know. Until the internet Well, we are like we'd like to think that, but we don't know. Right. Yeah. Y yeah. No, you make a very good point. Like That's that's all we had to rely on. We didn't have any of that third party, you know. No. So we just assume it was good because that's all we got. Mm-hmm. Yep. And then you have Nancy Grace and everybody was like, All right, this is totally full of shit. Like she's definitely making this shit up. Yeah. I've always kind of thought about that when it comes to ⁓ like old ancient text that they find, you know, or just like different tablets or whatnot. And it's just like this these people easily could have been fucking with us. I just like to picture them all around a circle, just getting hammered, just chiseling away, telling a ridiculous story. Yeah. There's a Norm McDonald joke that I really like. He said, Thankfully for us and history, the good guys have always won. ⁓ Where it's literally a customer complaint. Is it really? Yeah. They archaeologists found one and they like deciphered it. It's like, ⁓ this guy is just bitching about something he bought. You know how pissed you have to be to chisel that out to a rock. So funny. To whom it may concern. But also if you find something that ridiculous, imagine like all the stuff that we'll never find. Right. If they were actually that meticulous about things where you were carving out notes about you being pissed off, mm-hmm. You got sold a bad donkey. ⁓ Died on the walk home. What the hell? No returns. All sales vinyl. Yeah, well, I mean, l going back to the crack thing, right? That was at the same time, they introduced crack cocaine, right? And they're and the CIA was flying it in. Which is a proven thing. Look at the movie American Made. ⁓ fantastic Tom Cruise movie. But they flew it in, they would create crack, they introduced it into urban areas, right? And at the same time, the president's wife, right? Nancy, Nancy Reagan, starts the ⁓ just say no campaign. So you get this like exactly what we're seeing now, the two-faced aspects of it, right? We're telling you one thing, but doing another thing. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Well we didn't Rick Ross was going on. The real Rick Ross. We've talked about this and I thought last time you were talking about the the rapper Rick Ross, but there's an another real Rick Ross. There's a there's a drug dealer there's a real real Rick Ross. Yeah, who is that guy? He was a drug dealer that was in LA and actually he was like a super good tennis player when he was a kid, but not good enough to go pro and really just he didn't do anything in school, so ⁓ got into selling drugs. and became super successful, like one of the biggest drug dealers in LA, but actually it was the CIA that he was giving him the drugs to be selling. So yeah. So he got huge and then I forgot how they got him, but so then after working with the CIA, I don't know what happened, but they put him in jail. Okay. And he got put in jail and that's where he learned to read and he started to ⁓ he started to study law. And he got himself out because he was put in jail under not false pretenses, but it's his ⁓ sentence was because this super long because he had three felonies, but it's supposed to be three separate felonies and they put they gave him three felonies on the same incident. And so that's actually just counts as one felony. Okay. From a from a sentence perspective, I guess. So he got out ⁓ Got out much, much earlier and he just he tells a story, makes T shirts like real Rick Ross. ⁓ I re sells books, all that stuff. ⁓ shit. Talking about yeah. But he had a crazy life because he was slinging drugs and w working with the CIA and he had no idea. Yeah. Well, I mean by proxies, so was ⁓ Biggie. Because he was slanging drugs before he became a rapper, you know? Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know if it was the CIA that was handing it to Biggie. This was yeah, it was from way down the line. He was a he was a little guy. Yep. Yeah, man. It's so weird. It always doubles back to the CIA, you know? If you had to be a drug if you had to be a drug I know, right? ⁓ if you had to be a drug dealer, what what would be your your drug to sell of choice? ⁓ boy. That's a good question. I wanna say cocaine. Yeah? Yeah. There's a lot of money in heroin, but I feel bad just too many people die. Right? Yeah. Too many lives are ruined. I don't I don't like the the meth heads. You know, yeah. They and they're just they're weird, they pick their face. I would imagine that stuff stinks. You you got a big audience for cocaine, you know? Everybody from partiers to people on Wall Street, you know, to weekend war there's there's a big market for that. And they are probably gonna have a lot of money. Right. Usually. You gotta have the bankroll for cocaine, that's for sure. Sure. I wouldn't say weed, but I mean weed's legal now. So like And also you gotta raise a family. I don't think the weed's gonna do it, you know? Mm mm. You really gotta be pushing. Anybody's ever sold weed's probably getting high on their own supply anyway, you know. So I think you put it aside for a little bit. You put some aside. Well, how about you? What would be your drug if you had two? You know what? I would probably ⁓ well I'd do two things. ⁓ I would go I'd be a bootlegger in the winter up in Canada and Alaska 'cause ⁓ they're not allowed to sell liquor during the the dark months up there. Really? Yeah, because it's because of seasonal yeah, because of seasonal depression. So I feel like the only thing keeping me not depressed would be booze. Yeah, you know I I think I'd be a bootlegger. Up up in the ⁓ northern Canada, Alaska in the winter. ⁓ and then I probably have no idea that there was prohibition for four months out of the year, you know. At least I'm pretty sure. It sounds right. I don't I'm pretty sure. It makes sense, yeah. I mean that's just ⁓ That's a And then also Utah because yeah, in Utah because they're not allowed to drink. So I feel like there's a market for some higher percentage stuff. And then I'd make my way down to Mexico, probably pick up some Viagra and sell that all the way down to Brazil. Sure, sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I would do. You got a whole whole plan. Want to see the world, man. If I'm slinging drugs, want to see the world. If that is true about ⁓ the the alcohol in the Arctic Circle, you know, and I I know it's really expensive in Alaska, everything is. But ⁓ you would hit you'd have a crazy, crazy margins. You know, yeah, exactly. You but I would box of forties for three bucks, you know, and then sell ⁓ for thirty. Some Crown Royal? Right. I mean you know fifteen bucks a shot? A a ton of money on that. Exactly. A huge markup. Exactly. I mean, relatively socially acceptable, you know. I guess I guess not so much in the winter months, supposedly. Maybe maybe that's what maybe maybe Pac and Biggie knew ⁓ how to how to slang too much, so the CIA had to tamper ⁓ down. Maybe they knew something. I don't know. I mean, to support the fact that Pac is still alive is the the other releases of his music that were coming out after his death. Like suspiciously had a couple albums come out. Like the other Machiavelli stuff. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, ⁓ he just had so much material that he just ⁓ was just able to do that. I don't think so. Yeah. I don't know. Cause like, well, and then then it all got spurred up again by the hologram. You remember that at ⁓ Coachella, what 2016 or something like that? T Pox hologram. In a hologram? Fuck off. This isn't a goofy movie. ⁓ So there is different seasons. They have damp damp season, wet season, and dry season. So it's like the goofy movie. It's a great movie. Wet, dramp, damp, and dry season. Yeah. Yeah. They have a sale of alcohol is highly restricted or banned. But you can have personal possession just like. Just like prohibition. Interesting. Yep. I didn't I had no idea that that was still like a a thing. Well it's not a state thing. It's a regional thing, I guess. Yeah, it's not a state thing. Sure. What what part of like is it just like super north Canada, like Arctic Circle and and upward or I mean probably Alas I mean Alaska. Yeah. It's probably gotta be that. Yeah. Were you the one that was telling me that we got Alaska from the Russians after the Civil War? Were you the one that was telling me that? ⁓ yeah. Well, it was because of the Civil War. Yeah. ⁓ yeah, I saw I saw I saw a 45 second YouTube clip, so now I know all about it. I have a subject matter. Six brew. Yeah, I'm a SME in it. ⁓ so Russia helped the north somehow really smother the south and in that. And they couldn't just pay it back. Like it was something weird where it would have they could've they had to do it under the table in some regard. And so they're like, Listen, just ⁓ they had to pay back Russia is what it was. But they couldn't just give them the money and say like, Hey, we owed Russia, sorry South, we never told you about this. Right. And so and so Russia's like, Look, just give us the money, we'll give you the shitty piece of land that's right next to Canada and we'll both go our separate ways. Call it not knowing yeah, not knowing it was a bunch of oil. That sucks. You're telling me there's what? And you just gave it to him? Yeah. Son of a bitch, Yuri. What next? Do you want to bring down the rest of the USSR? Yeah, seventy. When did we get ⁓ When did we get Alaska? When when did we get eight eighteen sixty seven? ⁓ gosh. ⁓ wow. So that really wasn't that far off after No. Like two years. Why did I thought that we got him in like nineteen fifty three? ⁓ that's when it became the forty ninth state in fifty nine. ⁓ wow. So we've had a lot so what were so it was just like ⁓ a territory? I guess, yeah. Huh. Just a territory. Just The thing kind of hanging out up there. How did how did we get Puerto Rico? That was I want to say World War II related. Why why we got Puerto Rico. We got him from nope, not even close. No. The US acquired Puerto Rico from Spain in 1898. ⁓ Following the Spanish American War. ⁓ okay. Yeah, yeah. That's the one that ⁓ Teddy Roosevelt ⁓ led a charge up a mountain being legally blind. Really? Yeah, Teddy Roosevelt was legally blind. And he's got actually Teddy Roosevelt's got like a crazy story. He was when he was born, he was like a super sick, right? Like a sickly little kid and his dad basically told him, like, listen, either you get smart or you get strong or you get both, but Really the way you're going right now. Get out of here. You got nothing going for ya. So like he gets really strong. He starts running for politics and like he can't see for shit. And that's why he's always squinting. He's got his glasses on. He's like legally blind. Anyway, like his wife and his mom die on the same day, an hour apart from each other, moves out west and kicks a bunch of ass out there. And then he comes back and volunteers. ⁓ for the Spanish American War. And he like really wanted to be famous. So he like lied about which company he was with so he could get his Rough Riders onto a boat to go to Puerto Rico. And then he just kind of found himself in this shitstorm. And he's like, well, the only way out of this is to charge up this hill. Right. But he's fucking legally blind. So he told everybody We're gonna charge up this hill. And that's what they did. They ended up taking it. And that was like a a big turning point in the Spanish-American War. And then we got Puerto Rico out of it. Fucking do anything with confidence, my man. Right. Wait, you're telling me that this blind guy is who we gotta follow up? ⁓ Okay. They probably didn't even know till after the battle. Be like, you you you didn't know. Did we win? How do we do? ⁓ he just screamed, they're coming right for us, and they just sprinted up the hill. Yeah, Teddy Roosevelt's really interesting. I don't know if he ever did crack cocaine. Probably not. I mean maybe probably Harry. It's good enough for Robin Williams to play him. I understand it's gotta be a good guy, right? I think that was Robin Williams' last role, I think, was playing him. That's such a fitting last role. I know, right? Poor Robin Williams. ⁓ did you watch okay, so two things. One, did you watch Michael Jackson's The Verdict on ⁓ Netflix? It was Teddy Roosevelt. Yep. Was Robin Williams. Okay. ⁓ sorry. ⁓ no, I did not watch it. I just think it's really interesting that MJ has this movie come out about his life, and all of a sudden they bring this thing back up again, you know? Think it's really odd. Also, they alter a lot of the footage in that to make Michael Jackson look worse than he really was. There is one particularly that I saw another 30 second YouTube short. But in the in the verdict that's out, it shows this kid going, No, me and Michael were arguing, and he says, if you love me, you'll sleep in the bed. Right? Making it look like Michael Jackson said you will only do this if you love me, right? Yeah, that sounds horrible. If you go back to the original Martin Bashir ⁓ documentary about it, the full clip is the kid saying, No, me and Michael, we were arguing about who takes the bed and who sleeps on the floor. You take it, no, you take it, no, you take it as as friends do, right? Me and you have argued about who sleeps on the couch, right? So and then he says At the very end of it, Michael said, If you love me, you'll take the bet or you'll sleep in the bed. So that was the full clip, but they altered it in in this verdict documentary to make Michael Jackson look even worse. Yeah. Not surprised. No. Also, the crash, the one that you told me about last week with McKenzie's gorilla. Yeah. Okay. I know I texted you this, but seriously, who was the architect of the building that they ran into? Dude. Yeah. I know. I mean she did hit a cor she she hit a cornerstone though. She hit a foundation. Like she hit the corner right there, you know? Right. But still, like that build I mean, like in the the body cam footage of the accident, right? When they did show the building, like no real noticeable damage of roofs collapsing or any real brick work, you know, like Do you think that they use that as advertisement afterwards? Probably. Just like how good their structures are? I don't want to brag, but Mackenzie's gorilla ran into one of our buildings. Not a scratch. Nothing. Fucking crazy though, right? Dude, that was a crazy thing. Like, do you do you think do you think it was intentional? Do you think she's Yeah, you think so. 100%. There's not a there's no way it wasn't. You can't You can't go down an S curve road going a hundred miles per hour and not stepping on the and and not crashing at all. Right. And staying perfectly. And ⁓ and not do that or like not be ⁓ unconscious. Be conscious. Yeah. Yeah. Well I also thought that was kind of funny, her like whole pots thing. Yeah, I just black out sometimes. Like Yeah. That's really convenient, you know, for for the the case and the situation. ⁓ Yeah, I think well, and also when they were going into like how crazy she was, how she was like grabbing the steering wheel while they were going down the highway and like how and then I saw it. The crazy eyes. Yeah. Like as soon as I saw the crazy eyes, I was like, Yep, she did fucking do this thing. And her not see him help at all either. Her mom during the trial, ⁓ yeah, Davion was just a new friend. And the judge interrupted her. Well, what's that supposed to mean? Like he's not as Not as good? Like, ⁓ no. No. Yeah. Like you that was bad. Fucking idiot. They didn't help. Apparently Go ahead. No, you go. ⁓ I've been now since I've watched that in my YouTube recommendations there's been all like the the follow ups about her, like and her life in prison. And she seems like a real difficult person to work with. She's a fucking narcissist. Yeah. She's ⁓ like Constantly getting in trouble. Her and her mom are like trying to get Kim Kardashian to like help her get out of prison or some shit. It's the wrong person to be asking. Right. Like and and like still trying to sign up for like ⁓ clothing deals and modeling deals, like while she's in prison. It's like, bitch, you're gonna be in there until like you're you're fifty. Fifty five. Yeah. Serving all all what she got a thirty year sentence, I think it was thirty five year sentence. I think it's fifteen to life, depending on she's not up for pro she's not up for a hearing until like twenty thirty seven. Okay. She she got tried in as a doll, right? She was already over eighteen. Yeah. She should be. Yeah. I think so. She killed two people. She did. Intentionally killed two people. Yeah. Like ran right into that. It was funny 'cause when I was watching it, Turned it on Lil's ⁓ yeah, I already saw this. It was the ⁓ the body cam footage that they had on YouTube about all this. So I was like, ⁓ so you know, don't spoil the ending for me. I want to know. But also, man, like the balls on her, because I wouldn't be able to just drive a hundred miles per hour nonstop into a brick wall. Right. That's like that takes commitment to not step on the bri to not step on the brakes at all. Yeah. And so th the thing that was like chilling to me is when they were looking through the black box of the car and how they saw it go from ⁓ drive to neutral back into drive, back into neutral, like showing that Dom was like trying to stop the car. I was like, ⁓ yeah, fucking throw the key away on this bitch, no way. Like she definitely did this intentionally. Yeah. But also she weighs like 90 pounds soaking wet. Why didn't you just like take the wheel from her or something? Right. I'm not in that situation. Like I would I would definitely punch her in the face if it meant crashing into a wall at 100 miles an hour, right? Or domestic batteries, you know. But at least I'm alive, you know? Like I would definitely hit that anything to like get out of the the inevitable in that situation, you know? Yeah. Fucking wild. Folks, if you haven't seen I highly recommend it. It was a great show. It was a it was a great hour and a half kind of watch. And it just kept like snowballing. Like at first it was, ⁓ you know, they were all besties. And her one friend, like, she was pissing me off in the show too. Yeah, she sucked. She wouldn't do this. She wouldn't do this. She did it, girl. I'm sorry. She did. And she's in jail because of it. You know. Yeah, I don't know. Should we ⁓ should we start the Midwest goodbye? Should. Are you ⁓ you gonna watch the World Cup? I would like to. I'm in it. I gotta see how Cucurero does. ⁓ yeah, you are playing. Yeah, I'm playing. Playing for Spain, baby. That's right. ⁓ have you seen anything about the US? In what regard? In in the World Cup and like specifically our chant that we have. No means no. No. Yeah, the chant that we have is being ridiculed on a a a global level where everybody that is like posting it trying to like cheer on the US, everybody's like, just please pick something else. The best we support the US, the US, the US, and that's the way we like it. We like it. We love it. And that that's it. That's the whole chance. Well ⁓ that's not fair though, because soccer's not our our number one sport here. So you have a very select culture of the soccer group here, you know? Yep. That that's not a fair representation of of how we are with our sports. True, true. but every time somebody tries to post it like a video like our our chant isn't that bad. The the comments are always You're like a millennial teacher trying to hop into like the cool nude trends, you know? Like Snapbidden. No. Your your chance sounds like it was made by AI. So there's ⁓ the Stanley Cups going on right now. And there's a guy on ⁓ there's a guy on I think it's the Carolina Hurricanes where he ⁓ he got in trouble a couple of years ago for ⁓ sexual allegations. ⁓ boy. And he ⁓ he was found innocent, but people still don't think that he is, which is fair. And and when he's at the other opponent in Vegas at the other opponent, ⁓ the the crowd chants when he has the puck, no means no. Just just to get under his skin. That that's That's raw, dude. That's so those those are USA. Those are those are USA chances what I'm getting at. Like England, whenever they play Germany, they say two world wars and one World Cup. You know? Like there's that's what you're supposed to do. You're supposed to make it like offensive. Self deprecating or offensive, you know, is like your two options and ours sounds like the the McDonald's jingle. At least make it rhyme. Come on. Yeah. ⁓ it's so bad. But man, there are so many funny videos about like the ⁓ who the starting lineup is for each country. For China, it was Jackie Chan, Yao Ming, Shane, the website, ⁓ Dim Sum, Kung F Kung Fu Panda. There's a couple of them. Scotland was like Connor McDavid, ⁓ Gerard Butler. Gerard Butler, the ⁓ William Wallace, Lightning McQueen. They're like, who how did they get these guys? Who who signed these guys up? I'm England would have a pretty England would have James Bond, Austin Powers. They did Harry Styles. Harry Potter. ⁓ Harry Potter. Hagrid. Right. As goalie. Yeah. Though there's so many funny videos about that. Like the the potential lineups. And the Brazil's making fun of Ronaldo right now because Ronaldo is a renowned flopper out on the field. Like he'll fall down and just really be tremendous. He does, yeah. But they make they make fun of him. They put him in a ⁓ like a kitty stroller. You know, like one of those things where the kids could walk around without like falling over. They like put him in one of those and did an AI of like him running around the field in one of those. ⁓ Like this is our starting this is our starting lineup. This is our guy. Yeah. I'm I'm kind of excited about it. Did it start yet? ⁓ yes. The the friendlies are going on right now. So the friendlies are like your I love that name though. It's the exp expedition. Exhibition game. Exhibition. Yeah, exhibition. That's why I said Is this when you're playing your like your division? K yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think so. I think that's what it is. ⁓ so like when Japan showed up in Mexico, because the World Cups in Mexico, US, and Canada, yeah. When when the Japanese showed up to Mexico, they gave them all cowboy hats. Thought that was pretty funny. I don't know. They just got off the plane and they started handing them cowboy hats. And they were very confused. Yeah, I am too. wouldn't you get sombreros? You would think so. Yeah. I don't know. but yeah, they're doing that right now, and then the group phase I think starts Friday or Saturday. Okay. Brazil plays Saturday against Morocco. Okay. I think USA plays Paraguay. Paraguay. And it's nice it's like normal times, you know? Uh-huh. Yeah. It's not gonna be like I think Brazil plays Saturday at like two PM, three PM, something like that. Mm-hmm. But the the there's kind of like a theory going on right now that the last th two or three World Cups that Brazil won, the Knicks have been in the NBA playoffs. Really? And the Knicks are in the playoffs this year. Yeah. They certainly are. So there's starting to murmur. about it. And did they did they win? The Knicks win the last time the Knicks won? No, the last time the Knicks won, did they win? Yes, they did. Okay. I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Yeah, Brazil's got like some crazy stats around the World Cup. They're like the only team that's been in for all fifty years of World Cup existence or something like that. They mean business down there. Yeah, the Brazilians to World Cup is like the Yankees to baseball. They just kinda or at least the Yankees when I was growing up, I haven't played paid attention to a one baseball game in maybe ten years. But that's the big thing going on in our household. What are you doing this weekend? It's a great question. going up to ⁓ to Wisconsin for a little golf outing. ⁓ yeah? On Sunday. Yeah. Nice. I got a last place trophy to defend. So You feeling the pressure? A little bit, which so we've it's ⁓ my buddy's brother, well also a great friend of mine, not just ⁓ my buddy's brother, but a great friend of mine. His company puts on a company golf outing every every year in Wisconsin. So we go up there and you know have a great time. And the past couple of years we've won trophies 'cause we're the the last place out of the of it. It's a scramble too. But I'm calling bullshit because I'm not trying to judge. people but I saw one group that they were all in jeans and t shirts and I was like there's no way that that group beat us. There's not a chance in hell. Lied. Lied. I don't think they know how to keep score because this doesn't make sense. And the other thing too, get this. So this is up in Wisconsin. Mm-hmm. Golf course in Wisconsin. And they don't sell liquor at all. There's no tequila, no bloody Marys, no tequila or nothing. And it's just like, what? You c this is fucking Wisconsin. This is the alcoholic capital of the world. What? What do you mean I can't have a bloody Mary while I'm swinging my clubs? Are you gonna tailgate? Maybe. Yeah. ⁓ might be on the docket this go around, actually. Bring your own beer bong. You know what? That would be 'cause that can go one of two ways. Either my buddy gets a talking to on Monday of why were you idiots tailgating at a company outing or We're gonna do that again next year and we're gonna do it even bigger. Why was Kukarela ⁓ shotgunning beers in the parking lot when he's supposed to be playing for Spain? Yeah, exactly. A lot of questions. Yeah. You can go one or two ways. ⁓ you'll just do I I'm not gonna be playing golf anytime soon, but so if you wanna take my bag and shove it full of beers, you're allowed. I might have to take it on the I just got ⁓ we can put ice in it, right? Keep it cold. Yeah, I I'm I'm pretty sure I have a cooler pocket on the side of it. You can just shove it. Genius idea. Yeah, and these are my See that's how you make that's how you make fucking money, dude. You take an item like that and you just you just make it better. Right. You know? Yeah. Just put it Right. Are you gonna make ⁓ You can make some jungle juice and put it in a ⁓ a water bottle like college? I'd like to think that I'm past that at this age, but yeah. It's it's a it's a potential. I'm not saying no. I'm not saying no. I I'm just thinking about even just like the loss of income that the golf course is losing out on. You're telling me you're bringing in a bunch of people from maybe the tri state area, right? And they sell beer, wine, and And ⁓ you know, seltzers. ⁓ okay. It's just the just the hard stuff. The the hard stuff they I I bet I would like to ask the owner who did it? Who's responsible for this call? You know? Tell me the story. What I need to know. You know? They drank the whole county. The the owner of the company ⁓ like drank your last Pappy Van Winkle or something like this. ⁓ no, dude. No No, all golf courses in the county. So who was it that did this at every single golf course in this county? Got a a serial drunk just going from golf course to golf course. Drunken Bigfoot just going all over the place. Jeez. No, that's a funny image of drunken Bigfoot. Hey, where's a beef jerky? There's some of those brats you guys were cooking up. There's nobody in any of these campgrounds for me to plunder. ⁓ boy. Well, I'm gonna go find my Brazil jersey, I think, and maybe start making some pastels now that I've inherited the Brazil soccer team. I'm gonna look up some more recipes for that that jungle juice you were talking about. All right, we'll reconvene. You inspired me. I gotcha. Any time. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Common Professionals Podcast. All music, content, and media used in this production are original creations and are owned by the Common Professionals.