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  Speaker 1: on Bloomberg Radio. At the Democratic National Convention this evening,
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  Speaker 1: as Heath Brown Assistant Professor of Public Policy at John
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  Speaker 1: the speakers at tonight's uh scheduled convention and what that
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  Speaker 1: tells you about the effort of the Democrats to get
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  Speaker 1: out the vote. Yeah. I think there's so many interesting
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  Speaker 1: things that will see tonight that build off of what
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  Speaker 1: we saw Monday night, highlighted by the participation of some
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  Speaker 1: of years, including the former president Bill Clinton. I think
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  Speaker 1: that what we're going to see is the way in
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  Speaker 1: which those figures can help to start to move the
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  Speaker 1: campaign from the phase that we've been in, which is
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  Speaker 1: choosing the candidate, to starting to turn out the vote.
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  Speaker 1: And sometimes that's done with the motivation that comes from
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  Speaker 1: seeing people like Bill Clinton and some of these other
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  Speaker 1: very visible leaders take the stage and announce how they
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  Speaker 1: see this election and why they see it as so important.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that's some of what will see tonight.
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  Speaker 1: M hmm. Well, I'm sure they want to ignore the
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  Speaker 1: n C. But uh, to what extent does that somehow
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  Speaker 1: have to be dealt with? To what extent does it
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  Speaker 1: sort of linger? Um? And is it best just to
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  Speaker 1: ignore it? Move on? Get Bernie Sanders supporters to your
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  Speaker 1: supporters to not boo and Hillary Clinton's names mentioned? Um?
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  Speaker 1: How do they deal with that part of it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I think what we're learning is conventions are not always tidy,
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  Speaker 1: but they certainly can be exhilarating, and I think we
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  Speaker 1: saw that demonstrated on Monday with the untidiness of the
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  Speaker 1: afternoon and in the exhilaration of the first ladies. Can
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  Speaker 1: I just champion there though, because they're reporting The media
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  Speaker 1: reported on their Republican National Convention bedlam when there there
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  Speaker 1: was a role call vote that was overwritten, and I
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  Speaker 1: thought to myself, doesn't anybody watch political conventions? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: to me, it is exciting. It's interesting to see in
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  Speaker 1: a way the discord in a and in both parties,
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  Speaker 1: some real, active, active actions. That's I couldn't agree more.
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  Speaker 1: I think think what we're what we saw last week
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  Speaker 1: and what we're seeing this week is the Democratic Party
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  Speaker 1: and the Republican Party last week trying to reconcile all
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  Speaker 1: sorts of internal conflicts over the chosen candidate and also
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  Speaker 1: policy in real time on television. I think this shows
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  Speaker 1: us a side of politics that we don't often get
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  Speaker 1: to see, which is some of these disagreements. I think
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  Speaker 1: this is one of the reasons why I think simply
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  Speaker 1: watching these conventions is good for our democracy, even if
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  Speaker 1: they're not exactly they don't play out in the scripted
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  Speaker 1: way that we have come to a spect of political event.
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  Speaker 1: I think those disagreements that that you're just you just
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  Speaker 1: described make conventions a very very interesting part of the election,
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  Speaker 1: and they they the messiness and the reconciliation of the differences,
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  Speaker 1: including things like the wicked LEAs emails, is exactly what
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  Speaker 1: makes them so very interesting. To the appearance of speakers
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  Speaker 1: such as us a senator from New York, a Democrat,
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  Speaker 1: Chuck Schumer, as well as former Secretary of State Madeline Albright,
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  Speaker 1: a video message from a video message from former President
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, and then I believe also an introduction by
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  Speaker 1: Meryl Street. This is designed to give people in a sense,
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  Speaker 1: speaking lines when they go out and try to get
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  Speaker 1: people to the polls. Yeah, I think that's so interesting
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  Speaker 1: in some ways. I think what we see at the
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  Speaker 1: convention is the the largest and most visible focus group
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  Speaker 1: that a party can hold. And so they know they've
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  Speaker 1: got a number of months before their election and they
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  Speaker 1: have to do political advertise eismans, and they have to
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  Speaker 1: write stump speeches, they have to create the content of
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  Speaker 1: their argument to the American people. They have this opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to try out lots of different lines, different angles of attack,
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  Speaker 1: different images that they might want to put put into
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  Speaker 1: those ads, and I think we see that we've even
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  Speaker 1: testing it with the amount of applause that comes from
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  Speaker 1: the convening, from the reaction on social media, from the
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  Speaker 1: response of pundit, and I think that for that reason,
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  Speaker 1: exactly what you suggest is right. We see what might
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  Speaker 1: work and might what might ring flat, and over the
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  Speaker 1: next couple of months, we'll see that replayed numerous times
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  Speaker 1: as the actual candidates go out onto the stump trying
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  Speaker 1: to win votes. You entwers have made my question, Heath,
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  Speaker 1: we saw Donald Trump getting a post convention bounds, moving
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  Speaker 1: ahead of a CNN pull the last couple of days
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  Speaker 1: for each candidate, what is the number one issue that
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  Speaker 1: they are going to hammer on to be the one
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  Speaker 1: that wins the race in November. Well, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: really two too early to see that, but I think
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  Speaker 1: in the convention, in the convention this week, we see
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats starting to play a couple of these out.
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  Speaker 1: I think that the repetition of the video and the
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  Speaker 1: image of Donald Trump apparently making fun of a reporter
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  Speaker 1: during the campaign is something that seems to be uh
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  Speaker 1: an issue and an angle that the Democrats appear to
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  Speaker 1: care about. And I think one of the interesting angle
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  Speaker 1: aspects of that is that this connects to another thing
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  Speaker 1: that was going on last night and we'll go on
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  Speaker 1: again today, which is the Democrat taking credit for some
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  Speaker 1: of their policy victories, like the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act.
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  Speaker 1: That's something I think they're going to hit back on it.
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  Speaker 1: Keith Brown, thank you so much for joining us, Assistant
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  Speaker 1: Professor of Public Policy at the City University of New York.
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  Speaker 1: That's tuney looking at the Democratic National Convention for US today.
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