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Erica Campbell: I Refuse to Let Fear Have Access to Me · Love You Moore with Willie Moore Jr.

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[SPEAKER_02]: next on the love of your worship.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So now when you see this world, how do you not walk in fear?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no way.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Never.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I mean, I mean, being honest, I looked at the studies now with the global climate, current administration, economic, all the things that's going on like our job on radio has become so
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[SPEAKER_05]: encouraging and they call and they my inbox is filled with people with so many things Yeah, if you like literally lock yourself into this culture like it's just perpetual fear Yeah, like how does Erica make sure that she doesn't bring that for your home or even letting get stuck on her
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[SPEAKER_06]: No way, God didn't give me a spirit of fear.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He gave me power, love, and a sound mind.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If I believe he's sovereign, and he probably might come to, he's the solution.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And he pit, again, and he brings me out of.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And he thing, I lose.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He gave it to me in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He'll give it back to me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And he illness that tries to knock on my door.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He will heal me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Or if I go through it, it will serve a purpose in my life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I refuse.
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[SPEAKER_06]: to let fear punk me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I refuse to worry about my kids when God took care of me and all my siblings moving nine times.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Parents being married in divorce three times on welfare.
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[SPEAKER_06]: All I refuse to let fear take anything that God has promised to me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I will not go to bed wondering if God is God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He is God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Even if I have to wait, He is God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Even if it takes longer than I think, I refuse to let fear have access to me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Someone asked me that, what are your afraid of and I said nothing and they
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, some guests just make me excited for different reasons.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And today, this guest makes me excited because this is one of my most saved experience.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This friend of mine, the one thing she's gonna do, baby, she's gonna pray.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You hear me?
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you, you know how you call somebody sometime and you've got a pray for me, she's gonna pray for you right then on the spot because you don't feel like there's no time need to be wasted.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Come on, she doesn't sing every stage across America in the heat group, Mary Mary.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Her solo career took off and she ended up having the largest radio show in America.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And of course now, she's an actress.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The one and only, Erica, Campbell is in the building.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Come on, Black people, make noise.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She's back.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you, Willie.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, my brother.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How you doing?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I never had it this good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You are the first person to come back a second time in this studio.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And this is so cool.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm honored.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for having me back.
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[SPEAKER_05]: it is such an honor to hang out with you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I want to really be politically correct, but I think I'm going to be talking and I'm going to forget that this camera is here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I want to talk to you a little bit about this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Girl, your weight loss looks great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You and one look amazing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Major love to your husband.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I want to know smoke what you want.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You look good to brother man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Praise God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, what happened?
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[SPEAKER_06]: What was the change?
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[SPEAKER_06]: What was the difference?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Want to be healthy?
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[SPEAKER_06]: We just want to look good for my man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I want to look good for me, but I want to look good for him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_06]: We're out in the world, or we're busy, and you know, especially being an entertainment.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I just want to make sure when he come home, you know, I've no reason to look nowhere else, but mostly this is for me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I want to look good when I look in the mirror.
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[SPEAKER_06]: As I get older, you know, I don't feel like I have to subscribe to everything has to ache and pain.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I'm old, now I can't do it, like I don't, I don't feel like praising my pain, I don't want to.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Come on, no praising your pain, no praising.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll acknowledge it, but then I'ma do something about it, you know?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because if I can have a sore and it's scab can come and allow it to heal, then why can't my internal parts of my body be healed?
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[SPEAKER_06]: If I do the right things and put the right thing in my body, so.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's how to air the cable.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So crystal your oldest daughter 21 21.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She's 21 now And baby girl is 13.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and little one is 15.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Come on friends.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was trying to remember right you did good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Come on
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[SPEAKER_05]: So you are finally pushing baby's out of the nest.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, Christ is in college, she's exploring life and learning a lot more.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then you all come up with a church that the Lord has birthed.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And Kelly worship his becoming a thing.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What does this like feel like now?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like empty, kind of empty nested, but now you got this baby in 500 new babies?
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[SPEAKER_05]: She, did you want to be the first lady?
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[SPEAKER_06]: They're what in the car that you thought.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, I used to say Lord, I want them to be safe, but a little hood, because I want them to love Jesus, but also know how to fight, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I got that, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so, you know, we start doing Mary Mary's good.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He says I want to go to seminary.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, okay, he started hanging with preachers.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then he tells Bishop Kenneth Omer that I believe I'm called.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I said, kuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh
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[SPEAKER_06]: I, we listened, we had just started the solo career, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I had just started radio.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I had to travel a lot.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So that was the reason I wasn't there a lot, but I saw it's coming with my luggage from a concert or something and, you know, I was still kind of doing Mary Mary, we had just started filming with just come to the end of the reality show.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So it was just a lot going on.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I just hadn't wrapped my mind around that level of surrender and service.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It really wasn't so much about the car.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was you have to be surrendered and I've seen it done well.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I had a great amazing wonderful first lady who just recently went on to be with the Lord my Aunt Theresa.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so I just didn't take ministry lightly.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so I didn't.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't want it, but it was one Sunday I realized you're not saying no to him, Erica, you're saying no to God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because if he called you, then you are his support, you're his help, then you have to be there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You have to be supportive there, you know, when he's going through all he has to go through to become the pastor that he is now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So instead of being mad at him, I ask God to regulate my heart.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I realize I don't have to be like every first lady in the world.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't have to subscribe to all the things that people say, you know, people want my man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I've never had to deal with that in my church, never plus I'm too.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then I got my sister's go to church.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It wouldn't happen the same way you think.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They might think it's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I didn't have to worry about that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, just fine.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, no.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So what would happen?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Praise the Lord.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, I do have to ask me if she could be my armor bearer.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I said, no, Lord, Tina's still against it, though.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Listen, I see her face.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I said, she's a little Lord, but she's a soldier in the army of the Lord.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And she might cut you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But she loves, she loves her sister.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Really not, it's really protecting what God has done in us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's so amazing to have this church and have this career and the support that I get from my family is just, it's unmatched.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was on the line with the tears and he was like, yeah, I was out there and I was doing my, you know, doing doing something out there and he said, yeah, man, I messed around and met my wife.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I said, well, hey, a lot of money need to get out of the Kelly version.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If that's what they, they drive a wild dog on that drop and walk.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He's like, man, if you mess it, we got some beautiful women like you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't want to do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: go here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just telling me, okay, the Lord is good.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I come with a lot of four children.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not like the weekend.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They're like, they're full time mostly.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's like, yeah, you go have to be a different type of woman to be able to work with a man who might not go to the movies every Wednesday for sure.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's why I tell all these women with this list and all these things that they have, like you don't have to meet somebody for real and get into real life and not what you're seeing on TV or what you see on social media or even your favorite reality show.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's not what real life is or what it requires to really stay in love.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So what does it require now that you, I mean, the radio shows a stateless, you're now taking on a new opportunity, which will talk a little bit about today, but of course we can't get into the minutiae of it because of legalities, but like, what does that look like as a wife now?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like 90, Chris is 21.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What are those conversations like with a husband who's now not just the producer, not that that's not great.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But now he's following his call in the past, as a pastor, like what are those conversations?
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[SPEAKER_06]: We are so committed to each other.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We are each other's first ministry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And he knows that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We both know that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That I'm his first ministry and he's my first ministry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We know that one day the kids will leave.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I know some people like you got to put your kids above everything.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, they don't drive me so fast and listen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so our commitment to one another is strong.
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[SPEAKER_06]: To our friendship, our commitment to being honest.
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[SPEAKER_06]: with each other, our commitment to our level of intimacy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: All of that is super important to us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I was a tardic today.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, come on, she was tardic to the party because she was hunched.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I haven't seen my husband in a month.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I applauded you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And he landed today and I said, babe, I'm not the late one.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He said, I love you so much.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I said, Willie's my friend.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I totally understand.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But you know what, there's a commitment, a lot of times people don't realize, y'all just disconnected.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's not, you know, sex is not about orgasm.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's about this, yes it is.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I don't say, I'm sorry, God forgive you, I said, I quit cuz.
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[SPEAKER_06]: What it is about bad dude.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It is, but there's this connection that takes place that is literally otherworldly when God is also in equation.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There's just, you know what, and I say, if God created it, why do we think the devil perfected it?
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[SPEAKER_06]: If God made the art and the parts, then how dare we think somebody who don't God God the anointing the Holy Ghost living on Sunday won't give me everything I need to bless this man from the crown of his head to the soul of his feet and then him to me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like I'm in that book and it's all the time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't get over that much nowadays if you give me a drug.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Don't come right on back to it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You say in Galatians, I think, I'm over there with Paul Paul saying, yeah, it is better not to marry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You see, don't go down any hope.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I do have to ask you this.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, since we just had a warm moment.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What does it look like now for Erica with a 21-year-old daughter away from the house?
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, okay, I'm gonna throw the bridge so Khalil's 22.
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[SPEAKER_05]: He's away from the house, he's in college, he's grown, he's making his own decision.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And so, you know, I've been 21 before.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll have a different 21 in use, so I'm not putting my 21 on you, but there were certain things I wanted.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And maybe, who knows?
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[SPEAKER_05]: You are from England.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just saying, you know, I don't want to put my plate on your phrase.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I don't want to look at the, you know, it's like, I'm on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But how do you navigate those conversations with a young woman who may feel the pressure of having to live up to the standard.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Not of God, but the standard of the family name because they're so, you know, into God publicly, how do you navigate that with a daughter?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I have to tell myself, I cannot, she cannot avoid her testimony.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I can't keep her from her testimony.
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[SPEAKER_06]: My mother would always say, there's some brick walls that shall I go hit and all I can do is be there with a band-aid.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I can tell her what I tell her, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I toggle between coach and mom, friend and mom, and, you know,
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I let her make her decisions and I try not to guilt her what I tell her is I love you regardless Nothing you will ever ever do in life will ever make me shame to be your mom or stop loving you nothing I don't care what you do what I would never stop loving you and never stop being your mom And that gives her the freedom to say because I love my mom.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm gonna do certain things now She's and my please do everything she does.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, no
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you have a hard time keeping a poker face, Erica.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I don't.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You do not keep a poker face, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I do.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You don't.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You make them pray before they go out to have fun.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And make them do declarations there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They did.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So tell them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So tell them a child of God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I did.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She was on her way out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She was going out with her little cousin.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I did not love the outfit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So our first, I pray for them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Speak it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I am a child of God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I told her to say it before they was what I prayed for when it was walking out.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I said, say I'm a child of God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Mama said, I said, and keep playing on Mickey's standing and speaking tongues for five minutes before you go.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And warms like, all right, enough.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So it's morning like a warm, more like kind of chill.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They're gonna live, they're gonna do what they do.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But you got to harass them a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You got to do that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: My mom, my dad harassed us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, what did your dad do without him daughter?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Is that he had?
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[SPEAKER_06]: When he would meet guys that I was dating, he would shake your hand and he said, how you doing, sir?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Are you saved?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Do you the Holy Ghost?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let me hear you speak.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And Tom?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_06]: One guy came to the door.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I remember he was a guy named Johnny.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was in high school.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And he came and he said, he knocked on the door.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He was like, I'm here to see Erica.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He said, did you ask my permission to see my daughter?
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[SPEAKER_06]: He was like, no, but I go to school.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Where am I, Daddy?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Slam the door in his face.
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[SPEAKER_05]: To Old Johnny.
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[SPEAKER_06]: To Old Johnny.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, man, Johnny broke up after that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then there's where it's free at the school.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Don't talk to Eric or her daddy crazy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Mission accomplished.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Shout out to all the fathers out there, skinned.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I got a lot of them in the Marines.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But did you have a little bit?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Did you have the sneak a little bit because of your dad being so strict?
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[UNKNOWN]: No.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You didn't.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So my dad, he didn't make guys bad.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He just wanted to let them know there was a standard here.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Like I remember being an elementary school coming home going and said, I have a boyfriend daddy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He was like, you do?
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[SPEAKER_06]: What's his name?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Demetrius.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He said, hi, you know, you know, he your boyfriend.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I said, because he pushed me on the swing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He said, okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He didn't go down the laundry list of how terrible guys were.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I only want one thing, like, he let me think in dreams.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was always in love with love.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I was always aware.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And very attentive to the things that people said to me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If I got played, it's because I made a choice.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And once I recognized, I was getting played.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, all right, you got me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You won't give me again.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I wouldn't.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I think everybody can get played for sure and did yeah, but not twice not twice no and I would let you know that I know that you Played me, but you won't do it again So when I came with the I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I had to mean I was like, yes, you did you Man, what you mean, but you just won't never get another chance to do it again
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[SPEAKER_05]: Someone says, over with you, it was over with you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, I don't go back.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You don't go back.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, you're in the cell.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You don't never turn into that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I ain't looking back.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I ain't lots of life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I got to ask you this though, like, so it's this age-old thing in the hood.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And forget me though.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But that was just like, man, come on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know what them church burials on.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I hear it right now like when I'm talking to my young guys because of course I used to be a youth pastor So I will hear a lot.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So now a lot of my young guys say nine and a 20s And my man, you keep in the holy bread like man, you know how these add to get up out that church and girls and keep in the Hold.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So, like, what can we do for this next generation to make sure that they see their value in Christ's version is always thinking that the men are the aggressors?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think that we need to teach girls how to hear no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Young girls hate hearing no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They, someone, and not all.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Young girls hate hearing no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you say you don't like it, she gonna make you, like or tell you, are you gal?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Young like me, you must be, you know, they go all down the line instead of just accepting the no.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But when she feels valuable within herself,
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[SPEAKER_06]: She knows if you don't like me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm still like a bowl, this just is not the situation.
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[SPEAKER_06]: When you feel like I'm a treasure, when I am top tier, when I'm top shelf, when I'm the special thing, I'm not the sale item, I'm the back shelf that you got to put down a ID before you can come to the back to see this piece of jewelry because when you look at yourself that way, then everybody doesn't have access to your body, to your temple.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I think a lot of our young girls equate self-worth and value with who wants to touch my body, who wants to.
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[SPEAKER_06]: be with me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And when you feel like that, then you open doors that shouldn't be open for the enemy to manipulate and allow someone to experience you who go walk away anytime they get good and ready.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I just think that it's not a, it's not a, it's a different kind of mindset nowadays.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I was raised where sex was the same before me, it just for us.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I know in the Bible, you know, the people who try to rationalize and well, it don't technically say that, well, technically, so that you around here sleeping with anybody and everybody.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So this is a lesson
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[SPEAKER_06]: from a youth leader.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She said, okay, just say you get married at 22 and you marry to to Darrell, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And you married Darrell, but at 17, Johnny blew your mind.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And in the 18 years with somebody else, and Darrell is a nice, young, safe guy, but he won't do all in tricks.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So because you didn't get those two guys out of your system, you're struggling in your marriage, because you didn't get free or delivered.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You just walked into marriage, going, marriage is going to cure me from this lustful thing that I have to be with whoever I want, whenever I want.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was never trained or taught the power of disciplining and saying, no to my flesh, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I never was taught to fast and pray.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Never bring your mind in a subjection.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Whatever I feel, I can go with however I feel whenever I feel, which means I'm not surrendered to God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm surrendered to my flesh.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So if your flesh takes the lead,
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[SPEAKER_06]: then your flesh takes the lead.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And when you try to get into a committed relationship, you don't know how to say no, because you so used to sing and yes to your flesh.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so how you do one thing is how you do everything.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Come on, you talk all right now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you're not disciplined here, you're not disciplined here, here, or here, and you can't even expect yourself to be.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Your body follows your patterns and the rhythm Satan follows your patterns and your rhythms.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Satan knows what you listen to, he knows what you like, he knows what you say when no one's listening, so I don't care what you say in church, he knows what you say last night, so what is going to tempt you with right after church?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You can shout and pray and all of that, and then after church what we're doing, you're going...
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we won't go, we
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[SPEAKER_06]: But that's the implication, I'm saved, but not like that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think the implication is, I'm saved, but I'm not judging you for what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I don't think that's that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's my implication.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, people want to be cool with all my heart, bro.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But you do you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But my mentor and pastor, he told me he was like, you got to realize you can't keep giving them a pass because the Lord is Convicting them because of your presence, because I wanted to be so relevant that I was neglecting the avoidance that was on my life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So I always give that like, man, you know, I love God, bro.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What you do, you, I ain't really like that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Y'all can keep doing what y'all doing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But then then Pastor Brum was like, nah, they don't even see you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That's your pride thinking that they're doing it because you there, spirit of the Lord has not entered the room.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And everything in that room has to now become holy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, all right, so you know, stop giving that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: But I, you know, I kind of understand when people say, I used to be foolish enough to say that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, I mean, you know, I get it when me and I remember when me and Tiana first started and we were in nothing but R&B and hip hop circles.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We didn't want to be, you know, the odd girls out, you know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so we would say things like that, but I realized that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: the more they will pull us to side and say, hey, can you pray for me or my grandma said to you hello or whatever, that it was a it was a level of honor.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It didn't mean that I wouldn't cool the relevant because I was in a room.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Most times I was being played on the same station.
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[SPEAKER_06]: It was being played on at the same award shows that they would be played on.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not going to do it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was on the same R. B.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So I could be fully saved, fully filled with the Holy Ghost walking the room, shake hands to be a light.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Marvel wine is told me I'm never intimidated in those rooms because I have something that they need.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I got the Holy Ghost.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You got the power of God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Our job is to win souls, not make friends and be cool with those that don't know Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He put us in those places to draw people.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So back to the conversation about the young girls.
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[SPEAKER_06]: When you have young girls who are beautiful and know who they are, they're out being a light drawing people to Jesus, not just to them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So my aunt would always tell us that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You guys are beautiful girls.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Be beautiful.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Look you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Y'all scarred is cute.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Just don't sleep with them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Tell them about the Lord.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let them know that God loves them, let them know that they can change.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let them know they don't have to be in the streets.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Let them know, let them imagine what a wife would look like.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's this beautiful and in church.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Not so okay for them to imagine.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She said, you just switch up so cute self-right past that you just don't sleep with them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She would say all the time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Now how many of you I was obedient today?
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[SPEAKER_06]: We were doing our best, honestly, I mean, my friends were still friends to this day.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We were laughing about it when we were young, but like you still on the island, the Virgin Island.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Home of you still on the island.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You still, I don't know, I was left the island.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You still on the island.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How long are you going to the island?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You all up in my business.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're on the island for a minute.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it was 18, 18, 19.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I was too young on that, and I forgot all for that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Try for it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You didn't know what you're doing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I did not.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I thought, I didn't get back on that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Get back on that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was 17.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_04]: My life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I did not like that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: it was preparation and I'm still mad at y'all for the ball that, you know, you know, a lot of I got to see a pressure.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, men, men are taught and that's why my young boys, I'm in a clip that went viral and people were going mad at me getting mad at me because I told my children how valuable your boys, how valuable they are.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I said, you are also a prize as well.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You shouldn't think that a prize.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I said, let's stay out.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You say whatever you want about your kids, but my boys have to know that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Most is like, because I have a girl there's like, I know you got your shot gun ready.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, no, because,
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know shotgun.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm gonna teach her what she needs to know and I wish some daddy would have a shotgun but my child I'm raising real men with real discipline with real hearts with real integrity real favor.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Tell them boys look here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I can't listen.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Y'all not getting divorced but alcohol and drugs ended with me so you not gonna go to that but y'all got divorced but I'm letting them know what's in our bloodline and I'm telling them they're value and so I'm gonna start using are you still
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because Lord knows I'm looking at these people in my driveway.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like on the cameras like who is that because these little boys are so handsome And they have shivery and they open the doors and all the parents call like oh my god There's such a great kid.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like you got to watch him.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was a good kid
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[SPEAKER_05]: Don't put that on your voice.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I thought you were a good guy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They know what they do it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: The smart cute passenger is here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, hey, you've been... Don't bring no babysitting.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Don't bring no babysitting.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I know that's right.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And then I thought, I said, I sound like Erica.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Don't do that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You do.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I like it's a bad thing.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not strict.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not strict.
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[SPEAKER_06]: X my kids.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't think I'm strict.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Massing Christopher face where you was like, you're going to do it, you're going to do it, well why not gospel it No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, ma'am.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I love her.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sorry, Chris.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I love you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I love you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So now when you see this world, how do you not walk in fear?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no way.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I mean, being honest, I looked at the studies now with the global climate, current administration, economic, all the things that's going on, like our job on radio has become so encouraging and they call and they, my inbox is filled with people with so many things.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And if you like literally lock yourself into this culture, like it's just perpetual fear.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Like how does Erica make sure that she doesn't bring that for your home or even let it get stuck on her?
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[SPEAKER_06]: No way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: God didn't give me a spirit of fear.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He gave me power, love, and a sound mind.
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[SPEAKER_06]: If I believe he's sovereign, and he probably might come to, he's the solution.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And he pit, again, and he brings me out of.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And he thing I lose.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He gave it to me in the first place.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He'll give it back to me.
27:08
[SPEAKER_06]: And he illness that tries to knock on my door.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He will heal me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Or if I go through it, it will serve a purpose in my life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I refuse to let fear punk me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I refuse to worry about my kids.
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[SPEAKER_06]: When God took care of me and all my siblings moving nine
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[SPEAKER_06]: Parents being married in divorce three times.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I want welfare.
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[SPEAKER_06]: All I refuse to live fear take anything that God has promised to me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I will not go to bed wondering if God is God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He is God even if I have to wait.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He is God even if it takes longer than I think.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I refuse to let fear have access to me.
27:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Someone asked me that.
27:39
[SPEAKER_06]: What are your afraid of?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I said nothing and they chuckled.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like no literally nothing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, not that I don't get angst, I'm not saying that I'm not saying that I'm not human and I'm not normal, but everything has to be subject to what I believe God is and I've seen him do and be too much in my life for me to doubt him to come to this, 53-year-old position in my life and start questioning if he's going to take care of me and my kids and what he's called me to, I refuse, I give the devil no space in my life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I felt that, am I just got hot all of that?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I felt the Holy Ghost wing up in here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Don't be a favorite.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you felt that, put the number two in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, put the number one in the chat.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're gonna do one right there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Hallelujah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Hallelujah, mom.
28:28
[SPEAKER_05]: And I couldn't even bring a joke after that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: When I hear,
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[SPEAKER_05]: just your heart posture towards God during this time.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's the heart posture that everybody has to take.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was intentional with that question because I don't know what the enemy's doing right now would believe us because they'll say like we've been practicing for the war and not at the war is here.
28:54
[SPEAKER_05]: It's got like forget about all the tools.
28:56
[SPEAKER_05]: We got to use the simulation and now the game is on.
28:59
[SPEAKER_05]: It's like okay cool, let's go ahead and really work our tools and
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[SPEAKER_05]: I know that it's so easy for Christians to use their words and the wrong direction.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And the way you use your words is literally what I've been preaching for the last five weeks already.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We got to use our words correctly.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We got to remember what God did.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Look at the empirical data in our personal life.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We got to read that Bible and we got to say, okay, this is not a history lesson.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This is a toolbox.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And so you're telling them you're telling, but I think you have now shown us a beautiful example.
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[SPEAKER_05]: of what it looks like to let the world live in you and execute it on a high level in a natural.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, sometimes God is living on you, sometimes he's resting on you.
29:38
[SPEAKER_06]: We started prayer at Cali worship, noon day prayer, Tuesdays and Fridays, and I was just praying and pouring my heart out to God and pouring my heart out to God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I felt the Holy Spirit rest on me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: The moment I start saying God, I only want to give glory to you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So what I'm really trying to do is give Lord to you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I want people to see you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't want them to see me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I want people to see Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There's so many people sing about Him and they don't see Him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We go to church.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We got brands and all this stuff.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And then we're fearful.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We don't love nobody.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We don't love ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we gotta get back to God.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So more than anything, I just,
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[SPEAKER_06]: I want to show people Jesus, man.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's why, and I'm a proud Jesus girl.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You love Jesus?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, like that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You pray yes, like that fast.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
30:32
[SPEAKER_05]: So, I think we've done your conference on this particular show.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We've laughed.
30:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Hail.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm crying.
30:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Laugh crying?
30:40
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like I'm being healed.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This conference that you have, where you're creating an environment for all three, how did this come about and what transformation has happened since you started?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm glad you asked.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This was started from a place of brokenness.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This started from, I was very proud to say that I didn't cry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You go through a number of things, losing my dad, even though I grew up in a church where everybody got healed of cancer.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Go on through things, you know, in church and career and ministry, wanting certain things and not getting certain things.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I know people think as artists, I get everything, I get told, no, so much.
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[SPEAKER_06]: People would not believe.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if you know the business, you know, businesses, it's ups and downs.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But I still never lose my faith, right?
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so, every time God brings me something, I get stronger my faith.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, then you can't get stronger in your faith if you don't go through anything, right?
31:40
[SPEAKER_06]: We want to miracle.
31:42
[SPEAKER_06]: But there has to be some kind of chaos or issue or problem for him to perform a miracle.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_06]: We want to bring us through and we want to experience victory, but we don't want the battle.
31:52
[SPEAKER_06]: And so I've been through some things.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I've had my heart broken.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I've been in charge lifting my hands because I was supposed to, not because I wanted to.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, all of that family issues.
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[SPEAKER_06]: life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I've been through life just like everybody else.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But once you get on the other side of it and I look back, I'll go, oh wow, there was purpose in that.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You taught me something, I grew a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You didn't leave me in that situation.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You did forgive me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You did extend grace to me.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So how dare I when I get to a...
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[SPEAKER_06]: a bump in the road now, or fork in the road, and I'm trying to crowd dare I go, is God going to, yes, he's going to, I just don't see it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: He absolutely will, because he's God, and sometimes the valley is a part of the purpose, sometimes the pain and the problem is a part of the purpose, how in the world do you get stronger?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You live ways, right?
32:41
[SPEAKER_06]: You ain't gonna get none of the muscles without lifting heavy weights consistently until it hurts, until there's fatigue in the muscle, to rip and shred the muscle so it can get stronger.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Sometimes God got to tear you down just to build you up.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And when you learn to accept that, you don't think he left you just because you're going through.
32:58
[SPEAKER_06]: My uncle would say, when all hell is breaking loose in your life, you better start looking around for your blessing because the enemy is trying to stop it.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You're trying to stop you from...
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[SPEAKER_06]: When I mean when everybody, everything that could go wrong all when wrong or wrong time, I'm shackles.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You better know what's a miracle around the corner.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Stay focused, stay diligent, stay on your knees, keep listening to God, don't get messy, don't act like God is petty.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Just keep never right and watch God show up in your life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That does not mean everything is going to go.
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[SPEAKER_06]: But when I say stuff like that and when I take this position, I say, she's she don't understand, she ain't been through nothing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I really like, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I just choose God.
33:38
[SPEAKER_05]: Has it always been that way?
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, uh.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No, I was backstage mad.
33:43
[SPEAKER_06]: I had to sing Can't Give Up Mel yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Mad.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because you were going through your life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, like this ain't fair.
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[SPEAKER_06]: God, I'm working for you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm singing for you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Why does it feel like everything is falling apart?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Why are these things happening in my family?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Why?
33:57
[SPEAKER_06]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_06]: But it's life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: People make choices.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They make good choices.
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[SPEAKER_06]: They make bad choices.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Tell me one person in the Bible who's life is pristine and clean.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Tell me one of our heroes in Scripture who had the easy path and a beautiful family and a wonderful home.
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[SPEAKER_06]: No issues and no one got sick, not one.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And we're gonna love them and celebrate them.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_06]: We wanna be David, what do we really wanna be David?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, we wanna be Ruth, but do we really wanna be Ruth?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Really not saying it?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You wanna be Esther, but do you really wanna be, you know what I'm saying?
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[SPEAKER_06]: But if you learn to go through, you can walk in victory and have a wonderful testimony and story.
34:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Nobody wants to watch a movie where they start in everything's great and it stays great.
34:36
[SPEAKER_06]: You need arcs, you know.
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[SPEAKER_06]: You need an enemy, you need an antagonist, you need all these, you need curves and torqued.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's what life is.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What happens when the antagonist is somebody that you love so much, like, I think that's the hardest part when you have to use these Christian, I call them Christian discipline, but those people who don't speak Christian ease, I say listen, we just have a certain level of discipline from the Word of God.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So
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[SPEAKER_05]: whatever your metaphysical orientation is, these are our Christian disciplines that we would gentle, we give a gentle answer to turn away wrath.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We don't fight back and forth with you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We do our best to mourn what our brothers want these mourn.
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[SPEAKER_05]: These are just principles.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, when it be somebody so close to you.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, the book of cuss, I'm going to come to the fore for sure.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How does it, how does the believer lean on his disciplines when the hurt cuss deep because of somebody so close?
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[SPEAKER_06]: You cry and allow yourself to feel all the pain that's there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you know what I mean?
35:40
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't tell people to act like they're okay if they're not.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Even when people ask me, are you okay?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll go know, but I will be.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so I allow myself to be mad, or sad, or upset, or frustrated, and I don't penalize God.
35:54
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I'm not working for you because I'm mad this went through my life, this went on in my life.
35:59
[SPEAKER_06]: And so sometimes when we go through those situations, we penalize God, I'm not going to church.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not praying.
36:05
[SPEAKER_06]: I've been there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I get it.
36:07
[SPEAKER_06]: It's just for like, I was doing this and this and this was supposed to equal this, right?
36:12
[SPEAKER_06]: Our math and God's math ain't the same math.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That math ain't math.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That math ain't math.
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[SPEAKER_05]: This don't even make sense.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Mm-hmm.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm not trying to be easy, but I start to get excited when it don't make sense.
36:24
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, because I'm glad I'll even do something more of it.
36:27
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was about to get even crazier.
36:29
[SPEAKER_06]: When I want to see a shift in my life, though, I start fasting.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I start really, I start getting my body in shape.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Because I feel like every action sends a message to heaven.
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[SPEAKER_06]: every action since the message to heaven.
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[SPEAKER_06]: When you start studying, when you start reading your word, when you start cutting out things that you know are not pleasing to God, those actions send a message of heaven to whether you're ready or not.
36:54
[SPEAKER_06]: If you're complaining all the time, if someone else is the blame all the time,
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[SPEAKER_06]: If you're saying, I could get this if it wasn't for someone else, so now they're blessing and I got like when I start talking different, when I start speaking the language of expectation, when I start speaking the language of having what he has already said to me for me about me, I literally start seeing getting different phone calls.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is so cool.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this phone call for the movie that I'm going to lead a first of all, I always wanted to act, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Audition for many things went to a very big director.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I was auditioning for one of his projects.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And first of all, he never looked up at me the whole time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was singing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sometimes I'll do it.
37:34
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
37:34
[SPEAKER_06]: And when I finished, she was like, now you don't got it.
37:38
[SPEAKER_06]: I was waiting for something else.
37:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, maybe more tried another song than it.
37:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Now you don't got it.
37:43
[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, thank you.
37:43
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I have to 23 people.
37:45
[SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of like, all right.
37:46
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
37:46
[SPEAKER_06]: And so I left the fast-forward years later, he was promoting the movie, and he came on the radio shelter, promote his movie, and saw a reminder to him.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was like, you remember when you told me that I didn't have any, he said, well, clearly I was wrong.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I love that moment.
38:03
[SPEAKER_06]: So did you hear it, you again?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I was too busy.
38:06
[SPEAKER_06]: I was too busy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was too busy.
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[SPEAKER_05]: They do it here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I was too busy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So that's another way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, so fast forward to now.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I got this phone call from Dr. Holly Carter.
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[SPEAKER_06]: OK, let's rewind real quick.
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[SPEAKER_05]: OK, OK. All right, so guys, listen.
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[SPEAKER_05]: My friend is actress, not.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Now listen, this is a great movie, and she is not the first lady.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She is an actress, a lesbian.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She's not playing Erica Campbell.
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[SPEAKER_05]: She's playing the role of Cassie Davies.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Got it.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And so how did you get this role?
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[SPEAKER_06]: Starwood, Dr. Holly.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Dr. Holly gets me calls.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She was like, I have this role for you.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I think it'll be perfect as the series that I'm doing and it is a woman who is complicated.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
39:02
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, she's cheating on her husband.
39:04
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, happens.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And she said, this ain't like a faith base, like this is like this is not killing the business.
39:13
[SPEAKER_06]: No, this is just back.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Great movie, though.
39:16
[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, she asked me if I would do it.
39:18
[SPEAKER_06]: So I talked to my husband about it, because I talked to some friends who have done movies.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I just think that you have to be careful with certain subject matters, what you open yourself to, because if you're going to get into it, you got to get into it.
39:29
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
39:30
[SPEAKER_06]: So I had to get into it.
39:32
[SPEAKER_06]: And the filming process was interesting.
39:36
[SPEAKER_06]: So I had to tap in and remember moments and remember mistakes and remember redemption and remember forgiveness and remember being exposed and remember all those feelings in order to give out the intensity to this character.
39:51
[SPEAKER_06]: You tell your acting glasses, huh?
39:53
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I was with an acting coach.
39:54
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah, acting coach.
39:55
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, acting coach.
39:56
[SPEAKER_06]: So that's that with just about who she was and why she did what she did and what she comes from and what she's thinking and all this kind of stuff and her position.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So she is an ego and and all these things and.
40:12
[SPEAKER_05]: And so, so, so do you kiss in the movie or you just hug or what you don't kiss?
40:18
[SPEAKER_05]: What did Warren say about your kiss in that movie?
40:21
[SPEAKER_05]: Did he tell you to do some bodies?
40:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Law, I have mercy saying that he's so first lady.
40:25
[SPEAKER_05]: You don't kiss, too.
40:26
[SPEAKER_05]: So much will help, I guess you had to kiss your husband.
40:29
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, they were, first of all, the casting was intentional.
40:33
[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody's believers, a producer, both of the guys are believers.
40:37
[SPEAKER_06]: Believers, yeah, both of them are married.
40:39
[SPEAKER_06]: Super, super kind, very gracious, very gentle with me.
40:44
[SPEAKER_06]: And if I was okay with certain things, you know what I mean?
40:47
[SPEAKER_06]: Here, not here, here, not here.
40:49
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, Lord, she said, here, not here.
40:50
[SPEAKER_06]: What not, what?
40:50
[SPEAKER_06]: I still don't know, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not, what not
40:58
[SPEAKER_05]: No, so listen, they are very well out of the first lady.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, you listen.
41:02
[SPEAKER_05]: You're not gonna look at me if you know you is the, you know, you my sister.
41:06
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't, you know, I don't look at you like that.
41:08
[SPEAKER_05]: Then for I knew you, let's get that out of the way.
41:11
[SPEAKER_05]: I did, you're just Mary Mary.
41:13
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, on the city for I was Mary.
41:15
[SPEAKER_05]: And I was the five guys for girls.
41:18
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what this is gonna do to the middle guy who knew you before the end.
41:22
[SPEAKER_05]: But that's gonna be all right.
41:23
[SPEAKER_05]: But no, I'm so happy for you.
41:25
[SPEAKER_05]: When you told me about this, I was like, oh my God, this is perfect.
41:31
[SPEAKER_05]: And then when I got off the farm with you, I sang your age, 53, 5 plus 3 meaning 8, 8 meaning new beginners.
41:42
[SPEAKER_05]: And God gives you a brand-new role, a new runway,
41:46
[SPEAKER_05]: and a new look on life as Christa's growing here.
41:50
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, things are settled at the house of being everything staff, and now gives you something else in your tool bill to still keep that thing going.
41:59
[SPEAKER_05]: And that's so dope.
42:00
[SPEAKER_06]: That's so cool.
42:01
[SPEAKER_06]: That's so good.
42:02
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just always trying to figure out how I can reach more people.
42:04
[SPEAKER_06]: How I can be like.
42:05
[SPEAKER_06]: But we love and I show other young...
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[SPEAKER_06]: believers, women and men that is possible to step outside of the church doors and still represent God, to the fullest capacity, whether it's arts in entertainment, sports, media, finance, politics, wherever.
42:26
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, God opens doors for us.
42:28
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, we just have to be prepared for them.
42:30
[SPEAKER_06]: Did I think it will come?
42:31
[SPEAKER_06]: Now in my life, no, I was literally resolved that it'll be for
42:35
[SPEAKER_06]: Christel, or my young nieces who are acting and singing, I just assumed that it would be for them.
42:40
[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't think that this will come.
42:42
[SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, it's one movie, and I'm super excited.
42:47
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, if the role is right, if I don't know, I may.
42:50
[SPEAKER_06]: What will Erica say no to?
42:53
[SPEAKER_06]: What will Erica say no to a lot?
42:55
[SPEAKER_06]: It can't go against my.
42:56
[SPEAKER_06]: It can't go against my faith.
42:58
[SPEAKER_06]: The reason I'm okay with this movie is because of the redemptive qualities in it and the thing I'm excited about is to have a conversation about how easy it is to fall.
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[SPEAKER_06]: the role that your ego plays when you fall.
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[SPEAKER_06]: How you rationalize what you tell yourself.
43:14
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm missing this 20%, but I'm ignoring this 80% and how allow 20% to destroy my life.
43:21
[SPEAKER_06]: You know what I mean?
43:22
[SPEAKER_06]: But there's also the role of husband who are so focused and so driven that you don't see the softness that your wife needs.
43:29
[SPEAKER_06]: From you, me and my husband have had lots of conversations about this movie, the subject matter, what it means.
43:34
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, how we'll use this, I'm excited to use this as a tool to have conversations for women and men to look at relationships differently and how easy it is for the enemy to manipulate.
43:44
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, it takes one decision to destroy your life.
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[SPEAKER_06]: One decision to say yes.
43:50
[SPEAKER_06]: One decision to entertain something that you know you shouldn't.
43:52
[SPEAKER_06]: Once you start having to hide something, once you have the delete detects,
43:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that delete takes us when you... Once you got to walk out the room to take the call, you better check yourself.
44:02
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
44:02
[SPEAKER_06]: It won't be too long before you...
44:04
[SPEAKER_06]: It just doesn't have a call.
44:06
[SPEAKER_05]: That's true.
44:07
[SPEAKER_05]: You're gonna slid up on that room.
44:09
[SPEAKER_05]: Now, my daughter called to get out of the room, too, because she's like... Ha ha ha!
44:13
[SPEAKER_05]: Daddy, where are you?
44:15
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm where I'm at, baby.
44:16
[SPEAKER_05]: Where are you at?
44:18
[SPEAKER_05]: No, where are you?
44:19
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, I am where I am.
44:20
[SPEAKER_05]: Where are you?
44:22
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm grown, you six.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
44:27
[SPEAKER_05]: six, seven makes me sick.
44:29
[SPEAKER_05]: So Eric, yes.
44:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I know that the clock went out, but I do got it just, I just got one more question.
44:35
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
44:36
[SPEAKER_05]: Coming up here, you know, you got radio, you have acting and you have these children.
44:44
[SPEAKER_05]: I know people always ask you about balance, but here and all this word, like, what do you, like, in the future, like, do you have visions that you kind of see for your husband?
44:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I see him going here.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I see the girls going here.
44:57
[SPEAKER_05]: I see more going here, a little more going here, and I would like myself to be here, like as mother bear, like, what do you see for your family?
45:05
[SPEAKER_06]: So, uh, probably during the pandemic, me and Warren started writing a prayer for our family and what we wanted to see for our children.
45:12
[SPEAKER_05]: That's good.
45:13
[SPEAKER_06]: And literally just praying God, show us and speak to us, let us be able to write it down and pray so that it may manifest in their lives, right?
45:21
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, he is guiding them, right?
45:26
[SPEAKER_06]: But speaking it over them is very important.
45:28
[SPEAKER_06]: So I definitely tell my son that he is a gentle warrior because he's such a calm, peaceful kid.
45:34
[SPEAKER_06]: Like he's the one that all the aunties like it.
45:36
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, he is there.
45:37
[SPEAKER_06]: We are good.
45:38
[SPEAKER_06]: Like he's the one that all the mom was in the church.
45:41
[SPEAKER_06]: Like he did such a sweet boy.
45:42
[SPEAKER_06]: He really, really is a sweet kid.
45:43
[SPEAKER_06]: But I tell him you are a gentle warrior.
45:45
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't have to be loud or super aggressive just because you're a boy.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Be who you are.
45:50
[SPEAKER_06]: That gentleness is going to work.
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[SPEAKER_06]: and your favorite.
45:52
[SPEAKER_06]: And I tell Zia, she's a warrior, she ain't just ain't got no king to get.
45:58
[SPEAKER_06]: She thinks she's a queen.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Press this.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm developing you, but there's greatness inside of you, and you have to yield to that.
46:06
[SPEAKER_06]: This personality is not an accident.
46:07
[SPEAKER_06]: This fight's steepness is not an accident.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I will never try to take that from you.
46:11
[SPEAKER_06]: I just want to mold it into what got once it to be.
46:14
[SPEAKER_06]: Christa is just a star.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She just is, yeah, she's beautiful.
46:18
[SPEAKER_06]: She's well-spoken.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She makes me cry every time.
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[SPEAKER_06]: She sings what her journey is her journey.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And she has to have all these ups and downs in order to become who she's supposed to become.
46:28
[SPEAKER_06]: So, you know, I know you playfully saying I'm a, you know, a hard mama, but I'm just, I'm joking, you've got to try to gently, we have real conversations with our children about who they will become, I just want them to know the Lord and tell the world about Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Wherever you go in your life, that should job.
46:44
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you have to be a preacher?
46:45
[SPEAKER_06]: No.
46:46
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you necessarily have to be a gospel singer?
46:48
[SPEAKER_06]: I would like that because I am, but you don't have to, you know.
46:51
[SPEAKER_06]: I believe Broadway is in our future.
46:53
[SPEAKER_06]: I believe there's so many more things that are in our future.
46:57
[SPEAKER_06]: My son's producing in these, this music is crazy.
47:01
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going, okay, I need my son's track on my next record.
47:04
[SPEAKER_06]: I know you usually do the record.
47:05
[SPEAKER_06]: You got to scoot over, let just son have some.
47:07
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm just excited about what God is doing.
47:10
[SPEAKER_06]: My husband already knows that we are going to plan for the next level of ministry, meaning succession.
47:17
[SPEAKER_06]: He was like, I'm not dying up out of here.
47:18
[SPEAKER_06]: We don't.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We're going to have our life and then we'll be able to oversee and watch someone else carry to the next level.
47:23
[SPEAKER_06]: I think a lot of preachers and pastors go beyond the point that God has for them.
47:28
[SPEAKER_06]: Because when you see these powerful ministries diminish, you're supposed to set up succession.
47:34
[SPEAKER_06]: Who's next?
47:34
[SPEAKER_06]: He's coming behind you, who's carrying the next generation, who's speaking to this young generation and so we're already, you know, thinking about that.
47:41
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
47:42
[SPEAKER_05]: That's so dope.
47:43
[SPEAKER_05]: To be able to think about.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, what's happening next?
47:47
[SPEAKER_05]: Has there ever been an opportunity or a season that you felt like I stayed here too long?
47:56
[SPEAKER_06]: Hmm.
47:58
[SPEAKER_06]: This is kind of a space that I'm question and now in my life.
48:02
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'm just waiting for God to just kind of speak, you know, something that I've been wanting that I think is supposed to happen.
48:12
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not happening the way I want it to, so I relinquish.
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[SPEAKER_06]: That's all I can do, you know what I mean?
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[SPEAKER_06]: I take my hands off the wheels and say, Jesus, Jesus, take the wheel and take it where you want it to go.
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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'll accept what you allow.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no doubt.
48:28
[SPEAKER_05]: Erica, you have always been a kind person.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And I just always appreciate that.
48:33
[SPEAKER_05]: I know you get a lot of people who may say great things, but I've got an opportunity to see you on and off the field.
48:39
[SPEAKER_05]: Even in some of the most frustrating moments, I've seen you attempt to be kind, and I really do appreciate that.
48:46
[SPEAKER_05]: You make it really, really easy to have hope for African-American women.
48:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
48:51
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I'm raising young men.
48:53
[SPEAKER_05]: And so, not that their mothers are on great women, but I believe it takes a village to raise a child.
48:59
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
49:00
[SPEAKER_05]: So, I'm always pointing at, hey, man, did you take a look at what she said?
49:05
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, because there's so many things that are out there.
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[SPEAKER_05]: four of them have a little baby girl.
49:09
[SPEAKER_05]: I got to be able to point the strong black women for humbling enough to also be wise as well.
49:16
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm blessed to say that I have one of the most amazing women in my phone and I get the sting privilege to call her sister.
49:24
[SPEAKER_05]: And I don't say that for the camera's man.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I really mean that from the bottom of my heart The way that keep going finding something new trusting God Supporting your husband being late for my interview because you was punching brazil law Hallelujah Friday and then being able to literally give a word So eloquently when you should be tired right now
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[SPEAKER_05]: You got a little girl with y'all.
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[SPEAKER_05]: You make me so much.
49:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love you, my brother.
49:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I love you so much.
49:53
[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, so listen.
49:55
[SPEAKER_05]: As I bring this camera here, let me tell you something.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Man, there's nothing more important in life than relationship.
49:59
[SPEAKER_05]: And many of you all have.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I wouldn't necessarily say you squander the relationship, but I think there's a beautiful opportunity for you to get in clarity with people because your next opportunity may be the relationship that is in question that you may have hinder.
50:12
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I believe this, that some people burn bridges because you thank you so on this high horse that you missed the opportunity to know that the same bridge you burnt may be the same path where you may want to attempt to get over.
50:24
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know why it's like only really, really hard for you to make a men's with people.
50:28
[SPEAKER_05]: and do your best to be a relationship that alone last thing, getting with people who see your future and being able to speak to it.
50:36
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that you'll humble enough at this season of your life to go out there and do some cool things that I've been doing.
50:42
[SPEAKER_05]: In fact, today, I just tell you this, y'all all in my business.
50:44
[SPEAKER_05]: I woke up this morning.
50:46
[SPEAKER_05]: I went to the gym five thirty in the morning.
50:47
[SPEAKER_05]: I got back to the house at 7.30.
50:49
[SPEAKER_05]: I thought my 16-year-old would be up and getting ready for school.
50:52
[SPEAKER_05]: He had 20 minutes before he would be late for school when he was still in the bed.
50:58
[SPEAKER_05]: And what that mean, um, I didn't turn to the book of cuts, but I was owned firecracker hot.
51:05
[SPEAKER_05]: And I remember the relationship when he got out because he ended up getting there all time.
51:09
[SPEAKER_05]: He rushed out and I had to text him and I apologize to my teenager because I said I handled that wrong.
51:16
[SPEAKER_05]: I was a little too up.
51:18
[SPEAKER_05]: And it wasn't even that serious.
51:20
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to apologize to you because our relationship is so much more than you being late for school.
51:27
[SPEAKER_05]: And you said, Dad, you know what's all good?
51:29
[SPEAKER_05]: I know, I know how it is.
51:30
[SPEAKER_05]: I said, no, I want to set an example for you as a man that when you feel in your spirit that you did something wrong, that you apologize quickly.
51:38
[SPEAKER_05]: If you feel like you offended Joe Brother, apologize quickly.
51:43
[SPEAKER_05]: And if I can be an example through this text message
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[SPEAKER_05]: that that's what I want to be, because I see greatness in you son.
51:51
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if you got to go that deep, but I do know that just in my spirit after you hear this type of fire, that fire comes because she was able to relinquish certain people out of her life in a genuinely great way, not like being mean and burning bridges, you don't get that type of fire fire if you're not kind.
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[SPEAKER_05]: So the word that I want you to put in the comments, just put kind, and I want you to meditate on that word.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I want you to meditate on that word.
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[SPEAKER_05]: What does kind look like for you?
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[SPEAKER_05]: Because I believe kindness is going to take you places that all of that negativity can never take you.
52:23
[SPEAKER_05]: Remember the past, the sister, the future, the mystery, this present that we have right now, this present moment is a gift.
52:28
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why I call it the present.
52:30
[SPEAKER_05]: Make sure you love yourself more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love you more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love you more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love you more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love you more.