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Furness Show 1-7: Stewart Mandel, Tod Leiweke, Mike Holmgren · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Anders, Jess, how are you guys?
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  Speaker 2: Great?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Doing great? Uh crack and win points in nine straight
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  Speaker 2: looking for ten On Thursday, Let's do it Berkeley caton.
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  Speaker 3: Man, Yes, the Catton was on with the Chuck and
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  Speaker 3: Buck this morning, cracking fans. If you missed it, go
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  Speaker 3: take a listen to the podcast. He was fun, Well,
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna be I don't want to put too much
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  Speaker 3: on I think he's going to be a dude here.
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  Speaker 1: Man, he's going to be.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a go to guy,
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  Speaker 3: someone that you can just look at and say, maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Put him on the podium.
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  Speaker 3: He's Berkeley's the kind of guy that I think is
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  Speaker 3: really going to capture this city in the next couple
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  Speaker 3: of years. All right, that's coming up later. Let's get
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  Speaker 3: into mont Williams. I'm gonna tie something in here in
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  Speaker 3: a second, and believe it or not, there is wait
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  Speaker 3: for it, there is a tie in to the Sonics
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  Speaker 3: lawsuit against the City of Seattle back in two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and eight.
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  Speaker 1: This is insane. I'll get to that at the in
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  Speaker 1: just a minute.
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  Speaker 3: They had so many thoughts on Demon Williams, and I
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  Speaker 3: know people are gonna say off for nas cougar fan.
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  Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. Yeah it was. Did I laugh and
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  Speaker 1: smile one hundred percent. I'm not gonna lie to you.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna I'm not taking a high road here.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's hysterical, but there's bigger picture issues here.
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  Speaker 3: Let me do this first. If you want to yell
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  Speaker 3: and scream and vent at the process, at the kid,
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  Speaker 3: at whatever, I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: We'll take your just you. You haven't had a talk
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  Speaker 1: back in a while, right, No, we haven't.
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to hear the voices.
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  Speaker 1: Tell people how we do that. Oh, let's see.
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  Speaker 4: There's a little red microphone on the iHeartRadio app, which
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  Speaker 4: is free, by the way. So you open up your
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  Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app. But then you tap the little red microphone
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  Speaker 4: and then you speak. It even gives you a nice
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  Speaker 4: three two one countdown. You have thirty seconds to share
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  Speaker 4: your thoughts and we will play them at two thirty.
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  Speaker 4: And remember I have to do all the editings. So
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  Speaker 4: I love a little PG thirteen works. But if you
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  Speaker 4: make an oopsie, I can beep it out.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, if you want to, you know, blame the kid,
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  Speaker 3: you want to blame the parents, you want to blame
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  Speaker 3: the agent, you want to blame the schools, you want
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  Speaker 3: to blame Lane Kiffen, you want to blame the process,
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  Speaker 3: or you're just upset. And I think this is what
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  Speaker 3: I kind of I am hoping to hear today. If
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  Speaker 3: you're just upset about college football and the state of
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  Speaker 3: college football, then fire away you want to vent, We're
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  Speaker 3: here for you today. Text as well, four nine, four
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  Speaker 3: or five one I mentioned. I got a lot of thoughts. First,
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  Speaker 3: dub fans, welcome to the club. Yeah, welcome to this exclusive,
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  Speaker 3: non exclusive club that we call college football.
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  Speaker 1: And the reality of college football today just knows this well.
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  Speaker 5: Ye.
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  Speaker 1: We are on our.
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  Speaker 3: Third coach in three years in Pullman. Guess what all
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  Speaker 3: of them had a contract? Mm hm, third coach in
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  Speaker 3: three years. We will be on quarterback. If I take
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  Speaker 3: Jackson Potter out of it, we will be on quarterback
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  Speaker 3: three and three years. Cam Ward transfer, Jeometeer transfer, Zebby
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  Speaker 3: ends up graduating, graduating, but Jackson Potter's transfer. So we
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  Speaker 3: know this well. We lost a starting linebacker to wait
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  Speaker 3: to wait for it Washington last year yep, as well
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  Speaker 3: as other players. Wazoo also has plucked other players had
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  Speaker 3: actually had a Kirby Bares had a hell of a successful.
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  Speaker 1: Portal run so far.
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  Speaker 2: It's including retention.
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  Speaker 3: Retention, and going out. And I just read it in
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  Speaker 3: the headlines, getting guys that were officially in the portal.
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  Speaker 3: Now I know there's a nuance here of he signed
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  Speaker 3: an NIL deal apparently and you know had that contract,
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  Speaker 3: which I'll get to the contract part in a second,
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  Speaker 3: in a moment. Guys, there are no rules in college
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  Speaker 3: football and we all know that. I understand the outrage.
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  Speaker 3: But is the outrage because he signed an NIL deal
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  Speaker 3: and hasn't played it down yet he signed it in
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  Speaker 3: the offseason for next year. Is that the outrage or
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  Speaker 3: is the outrage just you guys had what happened to
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  Speaker 3: everybody else in the country finally come to you with
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  Speaker 3: a big player.
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  Speaker 1: I'd be more upset, not more upset.
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  Speaker 3: I'd be as upset about Adam Mohammad now I know
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  Speaker 3: again entered the portal, didn't sign the NIL deal. I
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  Speaker 3: get that, I understand that, But that kid's a stud.
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  Speaker 3: That's a stud running back that you've lost too. I'd
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  Speaker 3: be bummed about that big time. But again it happens.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the better You want a little silver lining it
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  Speaker 3: could have been worse. I watched John Matti Jesse you
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  Speaker 3: want and I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to get in trouble.
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  Speaker 3: You watched, You watched John Matteer and Ben Arbuckle basically
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  Speaker 3: mail in the final month of the season last year
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  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Four, the writing was on the wall.
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  Speaker 3: They bailed that thing in our buckle had already under contract,
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  Speaker 3: had already agreed to go to Oklahoma. And why were
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  Speaker 3: they gonna get our buckle? Because they got John Mattier
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  Speaker 3: as well. Watch they watched the last game of the
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  Speaker 3: year in which Wazoo scored one touchdown on the first
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  Speaker 3: drive and shut her down. And oh, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: all those guys bailed on the bowl game as well.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody fulfills these nil contracts anyway. They all leave before
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  Speaker 3: the end of the season, because the end of the
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  Speaker 3: season is when your season ends, not the end of
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  Speaker 3: the regular season, bowl game, college football, playoff, whatever. Welcome
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  Speaker 3: to the club, NL NIL, n L I. Remember the
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  Speaker 3: NLI National letter of intent? Did help me out here?
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  Speaker 3: Did Jed Fish not get Demon Williams to get out
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  Speaker 3: of his NIL or nl I deal? His national letter
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  Speaker 3: of intent with a certain Lane Kiffin before Okay or
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  Speaker 3: Joana Coleman.
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  Speaker 1: It happens. This is college football.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 3: I listened a little bit to the podcast with Softy
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  Speaker 3: and Dick yesterday, and I understand the anger. I understand
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  Speaker 3: the frustration everyone's going through it.
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  Speaker 1: Guys.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is simple. We've been saying this forever, but
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  Speaker 3: nobody wants to do anything about it. The system is broke.
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  Speaker 3: The sport and how it's run is a joke. Right now,
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  Speaker 3: the product's awesome. Can't wait for tomorrow. We're gonna talk
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  Speaker 3: to Stuart Mandel coming up at one twenty. By the way,
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  Speaker 3: just in uh full transparency. We talked to Stewart yesterday
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  Speaker 3: because we wanted to preview the two college football semi finals,
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  Speaker 3: the playoff games. He's traveling today to the Fiesta Bowl,
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  Speaker 3: so we couldn't do it today, so we had them
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  Speaker 3: what we taped it yesterday. But we will talk about
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  Speaker 3: the actual games on the field because I still am
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  Speaker 3: a huge fan.
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  Speaker 1: Of the games.
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  Speaker 3: I understand people that are done with the sport. I
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  Speaker 3: completely understand people that are done with the sport. Guys
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  Speaker 3: sitting blow me last night, a longtime Husky fan right
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  Speaker 3: above were our purchase for the cracking games. The climate Plagerina,
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  Speaker 3: him and his wife come walking up the nice little
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  Speaker 3: caps off and I go, hey, were you guys drinking
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  Speaker 3: no nice cab?
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  Speaker 1: I said, NIC's awesome. I'm jealous. I'm doing her show here.
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  Speaker 3: And we started talking and the guy's like, Manny, and
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  Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, I'm a I'm a Husky alum,
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  Speaker 3: graduated and I think he'said two thousand and three or four,
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  Speaker 3: because I've been a season ticket holder since. And you
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  Speaker 3: know what, I went through the rough times, the worst times,
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  Speaker 3: all those times, and I went through those times with
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  Speaker 3: you know, Tyrone Willingham, and I'm still a season ticket
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  Speaker 3: holder because I'm not anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done with the sport.
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  Speaker 6: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: And I said to him, I said, listen, I understand.
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  Speaker 3: And while my job's not to support you all, I
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  Speaker 3: work for the Husky flagship, but I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: sit there. And you know, Raw, Raw Washington, I would
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  Speaker 3: just tell you you probably still love the Huskies. You
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  Speaker 3: probably still love going to college football games at Husky Stadium.
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  Speaker 3: I understand your frustration today, but don't give up on
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  Speaker 3: the sport. Don't give up on the sport. But the but,
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  Speaker 3: but the thing is is that you know what happened
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  Speaker 3: to Washington and Jedfish Jetfish is done. I don't have
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  Speaker 3: to go into it again. But Jane DeLaura, Okay, come
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  Speaker 3: on like you want.
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  Speaker 7: You want.
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  Speaker 3: What Lane Kiffin I think has done here is done
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  Speaker 3: on a daily basis across the country. But Deman Williams
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  Speaker 3: wasn't preparing for a bowl game and lying about where
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  Speaker 3: he was and stuck in Hawaii and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: That's what happened.
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  Speaker 3: So this it's greasy, but greasy is only way you
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  Speaker 3: succeed in college football now is by being greasy by tampering.
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  Speaker 3: And you define tampering for somebody defined tampering for me,
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  Speaker 3: you cannot define it. You cannot define it.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 3: The most egregious part of what happened yesterday was the
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  Speaker 3: fact that the rumors come out. And I'm assuming because
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  Speaker 3: the rumors were there and the reports were there, and
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  Speaker 3: someone had leaked it, probably LSU had leaked it. Then
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  Speaker 3: the demon Williams camp in quotations decides to release the
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  Speaker 3: Instagram story, which was certainly chat GBT or whatever the
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  Speaker 3: help we call that stuff now because he didn't write.
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  Speaker 1: That Ai ai. Yeah, there's one hundred percent that was
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  Speaker 1: because they're all the same, the same template.
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  Speaker 2: It seems to be like an agent. Who did it?
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  Speaker 1: Now your phone? Every one of those things is the same. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's the same, you know what they are.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so after careful consideration, want to thank everybody, uh
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  Speaker 3: you know best for my family owner in the port whatever.
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  Speaker 3: The worst part about it is it came out during
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  Speaker 3: the Miyahamant memorial service. Yes, I mean that part of it.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who you root for, is gross.
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  Speaker 4: A service to that of the coaches and his teammates
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  Speaker 4: were at.
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  Speaker 3: And even if all of them weren't all they weren't there.
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  Speaker 3: It's on the campus at Washington for the athletic department,
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  Speaker 3: a beloved student athlete who courageously fought cancer and lost
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  Speaker 3: that fight, and you do it during that memorial service.
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  Speaker 3: It was disgusting and sickening it that the timing came
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  Speaker 3: out that way. I'm guessing that they whoever did it, it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't the kid himself. It was probably you know, people
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  Speaker 3: not affiliated with Washington had no clue what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't excuse it. It was wrong. Four nine
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  Speaker 1: four five.
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  Speaker 3: One give me your comments. We want to hear your
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  Speaker 3: voice today too. And I don't care what Husky fans.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to scream and you on you're mad,
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  Speaker 3: fire away man, that's why we're here.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do that.
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  Speaker 3: Two thirty after my clnwork, I mentioned this the litigation
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  Speaker 3: and what's going to happen. Here's the key. Here's the
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  Speaker 3: thing that I'm really interested in. I think it's really
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  Speaker 3: rich that the Big Ten wants to get involved the
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  Speaker 3: conference that decided to destroy the PAC twelve after one
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  Speaker 3: hundred and ten plus years of being in business, that
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  Speaker 3: they're now going to be the social content. It's a
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  Speaker 3: college football that's pretty fun. Like, that's an interesting one.
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  Speaker 3: Big Ten, you guys are involved, like you're the social
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  Speaker 3: conscience of college football. But maybe just maybe what comes
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  Speaker 3: out of that is this, Maybe there is a correction,
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  Speaker 3: Maybe there is a fix. Maybe that does happen. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: Demon Williams is the impetus to get college football figured
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  Speaker 3: out and write. Maybe it does come out that way
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  Speaker 3: and maybe we get maybe make some pure progress. You know,
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  Speaker 3: even though I chuckle with the irony of who might
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  Speaker 3: lead the charge, maybe this does fix things. As for
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  Speaker 3: the Sonic tie in, you're ready. Washington's trying to enforce
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  Speaker 3: this contract, or at least that's the reports, correct, that's
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  Speaker 3: what we're hearing. Yes, I talked to a lawyer who
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  Speaker 3: was involved, and we'll probably get them on later this
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  Speaker 3: week with the same of our Sonics group. There's something
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  Speaker 3: called a specific performance clause when when the city sued
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  Speaker 3: the Sonics owners Clayton Bennett and Company to keep the
• 11:03
  Speaker 3: team here. That's when the City of Seattle filed that
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  Speaker 3: lawsuit went to Judge Marsha Peckman back in two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and eight. At the base of that lawsuit, specific performance clause,
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  Speaker 3: force them to perform the duties.
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  Speaker 1: That's the gist of the lawsuit.
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  Speaker 3: The feeling is Washington will try to enforce the quote
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  Speaker 3: specific performance clause, force them to perform the duties. Maybe
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  Speaker 3: they should go before Marsha Peckman and get it figured
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  Speaker 3: out because it's the exact same wording that this will
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  Speaker 3: happen with them on Williams as will happen or as
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  Speaker 3: did happen in two thousand and eight. The difference is
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  Speaker 3: we never had a resolution in two thousand and eight.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe we will now. We'll get your thoughts four nine
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  Speaker 3: four to five one. Want to get that talk back going.
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  Speaker 3: Stuart Mandel tucking all things college football playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome back thirty two bar and groarly in Fornace with
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  Speaker 3: you today. Good to be out here. We get Tomlin
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  Speaker 3: Wiki coming up, by the way, one for five lost
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  Speaker 3: to discuss with him obviously. Demond William's story is huge.
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  Speaker 3: Stuart Mandel is our weekly guest talking all things college
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  Speaker 3: football from the Athletic in the audible podcast. He's traveling
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  Speaker 3: today to go to the Fiesta Bowl tomorrow. We caught
• 12:47
  Speaker 3: up with Stuart yesterday to get just check in with
• 12:50
  Speaker 3: him and find out about the college football payf because yes,
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: despite the fact there's a transfer portal issue and all
• 12:55
  Speaker 3: that stuff, there's two massive games, the semi finals come
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  Speaker 3: this weekend. We want to talk about that with Stuart Mendel.
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  Speaker 3: We caught up with him yesterday. I first started talking
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  Speaker 3: to him about how you do. It's been a long time,
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  Speaker 3: so we caught.
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  Speaker 1: Up with him.
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  Speaker 9: Happy New Year.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate you jumping on. We've got games coming up
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  Speaker 3: in the next couple of days. Miami Ole miss on Thursday,
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  Speaker 3: Oregon Indiana on Friday, the semi finals of the College
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  Speaker 3: Football Playoff, and there's a lot of things to discuss,
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  Speaker 3: including the teams that are no longer there before we
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  Speaker 3: get to games, teams, story lines, all those things. Teams
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  Speaker 3: that aren't there anymore, Big ten versus SEC, what about
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  Speaker 3: the Big twelve in Texas Tech, lack of offense, all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff. In general terms, what have you thought of?
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  Speaker 1: What have you heard? What are you thinking about?
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  Speaker 3: How the College Football Playoff with this bigger format has
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  Speaker 3: gone in year two, this twenty twenty five season.
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  Speaker 9: I think it's been awesome because it has done what
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  Speaker 9: hasn't happened maybe ever in college football and flatten the
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  Speaker 9: field and brought us some new blood in the semi final.
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  Speaker 9: I can remember, you know, middle of the previous decade,
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  Speaker 9: right twenty fifteen inch to eighteen. We got four straight
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  Speaker 9: years of Alabama Clemson in the fourteen playoffs, right, and
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  Speaker 9: three of them were in the National Championship Game, and
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  Speaker 9: people were pretty exhausted by it by the end. It's
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  Speaker 9: a big reason why the commissioners originally began the discussion
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  Speaker 9: about expanding the playoffs, because it had just become dominated
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  Speaker 9: by a small handful of programs and a lot of
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  Speaker 9: parts of the country just never got to be a
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  Speaker 9: part of it. And so in the second the first
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  Speaker 9: year was very blue blood heavy, obviously the SEMIS. Last
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  Speaker 9: year you had Ohio State, Texas and Notre Dame Penn State,
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  Speaker 9: and those are great games, don't get me wrong. But
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  Speaker 9: I find myself more excited for this year SEMIS because
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  Speaker 9: it just has such a fresh feel. I cannot believe,
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  Speaker 9: like I, you know, signed up to cover the guest
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  Speaker 9: of a few weeks ago, thinking of from the Ohio
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  Speaker 9: State Georgia and instead of don't listen Miami so and
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  Speaker 9: then of course Indiana being Alabama thirty eight to three
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  Speaker 9: in the Rosewall something I never in a million years
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  Speaker 9: thought I would see. So I think this is something
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  Speaker 9: that a lot of people wanted and now they're getting
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  Speaker 9: it well.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, you know, listen, there's still that subjective
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  Speaker 3: nature right to the to the field with some at
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  Speaker 3: large bursts and things like that that comes into play.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the same thing with college basketball with March
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  Speaker 3: madis there's a subjective nature to it's. It's but having
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  Speaker 3: the twelve I'm with you. I it's funny because I
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  Speaker 3: have talked about that on my show in the past,
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  Speaker 3: just to someone who loves the game, like loves watching
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  Speaker 3: college football and has always enjoyed college football and so
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  Speaker 3: forth is for so long. You know, one of the
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  Speaker 3: problems in the Major League Baseball and the NHL face
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  Speaker 3: is they're very regionalized sports, and college football I think
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  Speaker 3: you agree Steward is kind of that same way. But
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  Speaker 3: when you get to this level, if every year it's
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  Speaker 3: only one part of the country, and you just mentioned it,
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  Speaker 3: for for a lot of years it was the Southeast period,
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  Speaker 3: Like if you're in the Midwest, if you were in
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  Speaker 3: the West, or if you're in the Southwest, you weren't
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: part in the Northeast doesn't care about college football, so
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: we don't worry about that. But seriously, like you just
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: didn't worry. You were a non factor and you tuned
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: out when your team season was over.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: You're right.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, we got two teams from more or less
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: the southeast Miami and Ole Mess. You've got a team
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: from the northwest or west coast in Oregon and midwest
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: team in Indiana. College football the networks.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Hell.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: They couldn't ask for anything better, could they.
• 16:19
  Speaker 9: Yeah. You know, as much as people like to say
• 16:22
  Speaker 9: that the ESPN is in the bag for the SEC
• 16:24
  Speaker 9: and they want to get as many SEC teams as possible,
• 16:27
  Speaker 9: I always say, no, no, no, they want four teams
• 16:30
  Speaker 9: from different parts of the country. Now, if you put
• 16:33
  Speaker 9: truth there, I mean they say, we'd rather have Ohio
• 16:35
  Speaker 9: State in Georgia. Right, they name teams, but they do
• 16:38
  Speaker 9: want it to be spread out across the country. And
• 16:43
  Speaker 9: I think it's I mean, the Indiana story in particular,
• 16:47
  Speaker 9: but I would also put Ole Miss in this category
• 16:48
  Speaker 9: since they were, you know, not traditionally one of the
• 16:51
  Speaker 9: better programs in the SEC. I think the most important
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: thing about all of this is that it gives everybody
• 16:57
  Speaker 9: else hope. Indiana chur signety got there last year with
• 17:03
  Speaker 9: the losing its power Corp program in the country. I
• 17:05
  Speaker 9: think they've moved up a couple of spots, right, But
• 17:08
  Speaker 9: so if they can get to be the number one
• 17:10
  Speaker 9: team in the country and possibly win a national championship,
• 17:13
  Speaker 9: then that gives hope to everybody. It's you no longer
• 17:18
  Speaker 9: have to feel like, well, if I'm not a fan
• 17:20
  Speaker 9: of one of the you know ten schools that recruit
• 17:23
  Speaker 9: all the five stars, then the national championship is just
• 17:27
  Speaker 9: not even on our radar, No it is. I think
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: now this isn't just because of the twelve team playoffs, obviously,
• 17:34
  Speaker 9: and I L and the portal have a lot to
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: do with this, but this was kind of always the
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: thought is that if you give more teams access to
• 17:41
  Speaker 9: the postseason, you might see some different results.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Suetmandel join us from the Athletic and the Audible podcast.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Let me just quickly touch on a couple of teams
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: that aren't there right now. Ohio State. I fully expect
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: to see them next year. You Like, they've got dudes
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: coming back, there's no doubt about that along the way.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: But the other one, I'm wondering about what's your what's
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: your read on Alabama and our old friend Klen de
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Bor from up here, because we all know, I mean, listen,
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: you're taking over.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: You never want to be the guy that takes over
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: for the guy. But he did.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: And even though they get to the College Football Playoff
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: in year two, just missed last year. Alabama not used
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: to being out this I guess we'd say early at
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: least not getting the semi finals. What's your read on
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: what's going on down there?
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it's just it's not going well for
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: Kaylen to Bor And I think we all know that.
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: You know, he was going to be held to an
• 18:27
  Speaker 9: impossible standard. And I thought, you know, if he even
• 18:30
  Speaker 9: if they had gone ten and two both years and
• 18:33
  Speaker 9: made the playoff and maybe lost them right around where
• 18:36
  Speaker 9: they lost this year, people would be pretty mad at him.
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: But it's been worse to lose four games in each season,
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: to get blown out in the SEC Championship game, and
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: then you know, Albama fans still think Indiana is traditional Indiana.
• 18:50
  Speaker 9: They cannot comprehend that their team got blown out by them,
• 18:54
  Speaker 9: so it really puts them in a bad spot going
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: into year three. I also think you know, you mentioned
• 18:59
  Speaker 9: in Ohio State they'll be Georgia will be fine. They
• 19:03
  Speaker 9: they'll be right back next year. Alabama has I think
• 19:05
  Speaker 9: bigger picture issues. I think they were very slow to
• 19:10
  Speaker 9: adapt to the new era. And listening to Nick saban
• 19:13
  Speaker 9: Beomone how the state of things every week on game day,
• 19:16
  Speaker 9: it's like, oh, okay, I see why they fell behind.
• 19:19
  Speaker 9: And some of that's out of Calen divorce control obviously,
• 19:23
  Speaker 9: but I you know, there's clearly he was hired because
• 19:27
  Speaker 9: of the success he had, especially on offense obviously at
• 19:30
  Speaker 9: Washington with Panics and those receivers, and you're just not
• 19:33
  Speaker 9: seeing that so part out Manton.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm you know, de Bor's resume is is
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: really good. But yet I look at as I look
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: at Bryan Grubb a little bit in this regard like
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: he he failed.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: You know, in the NFL.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: NFL is a different beast obviously than than NCAA football.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: But I mean Calen, Calen de Bor and Ryan Grubb
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: kind of got their magic and their real true mojo
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: with Michael Pennix Junior and three the NFL wide receivers,
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: two of which maybe all three were first round draft picks,
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: right like, I guess, I guess that's kind of what
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I wonder sometimes it's it's the old Bill Belichick was
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: great until Tom Brady left, right It Like you kind
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: of wonder.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: I just I'm I'm curious because and heck, I didn't
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: even look at it now, it was a very small
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: sample size. Was Ty Simpson the right guy at quarterback ers?
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Should he have gone with the guy that came with
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: him from Washington and Austin Mac. I mean, there's a
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: lot of questions in Alabama Hi Simpson.
• 20:29
  Speaker 9: I'm a little puzzled. He keeps being talked about, like
• 20:32
  Speaker 9: right now, they're all waiting to see if he's going
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: to turn pro. And I'm like, really, based on what
• 20:36
  Speaker 9: you saw this season, you know, he's one of these
• 20:39
  Speaker 9: guys who physically is really impressive to the NFL draft people.
• 20:43
  Speaker 9: But I don't think the performance was there. But it's
• 20:46
  Speaker 9: not just that. I mean, I think the biggest problem
• 20:48
  Speaker 9: for them is they just couldn't run the ball. And
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: you know, while like you said, right, Washington had had
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: all those receivers and they had Pennix, but they could
• 20:57
  Speaker 9: run the ball when they needed to. I can remember
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: of them winning the pastoral championship game that way. So
• 21:04
  Speaker 9: Alabama just couldn't and they became one dimensional. And you
• 21:07
  Speaker 9: just saw Oklahoma, you know, down the stretch right Oklahoma, Georgia,
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: even Auburn game. They won the Auburn game. Their offense
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: wasn't very good in that game, so it wasn't encouraging.
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: But now they already got like portal open this week,
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: and they already got Hollywood's Smothers from Etsy State, who,
• 21:26
  Speaker 9: in addition to having a great name, is probably one
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: of the more underrated running backs in the country. So
• 21:31
  Speaker 9: that's the positive of this is that, Okay, a running
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: game wasn't very good, let's just go upgrade it in
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: the portal. So that was a good start.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Let's look at the games Miami, Ole miss the game
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: you're going to see at the Fiesta Bowl coming up
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: tomorrow on Thursday, Miami. I mean, it's been a long
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: time since the U was the U, all right, it's
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: been twenty plus years. But they're the only one in
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: this group that's kind of like the old guard, and
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: they're not a blue blood for sure, but they at
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: least have they know what a national championship is, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: an old Miss continues to be such a great story.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I say for the players, not because of the coach
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: that left that still wants to be the center of attention,
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: but because of these players.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: That's that's hard.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: Chamberliss, Lacy, the guys on offense, stribbling, and what they're
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: doing all the way around. Uh, just some thoughts on
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: this game and how these two teams matchups to.
• 22:23
  Speaker 9: It's a top up game. I don't really have a
• 22:25
  Speaker 9: strong lean one way or the other. But you know,
• 22:28
  Speaker 9: Trinidad Chambliss is the hot quarterback right now for Ole Miss,
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: and he's just one of these guys who you saw
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: in the Sugar Bowl. Can improvise, can extend plays, and
• 22:37
  Speaker 9: that's going to be important because Miami's pass rushers are
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: so good. You know, you saw them pull Text and
• 22:43
  Speaker 9: m three points. You saw them hold Julian Say and
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: you know they get up a lot of the arts
• 22:48
  Speaker 9: to it's a Jeremiah Smith. But no shame in that
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: they got after the quarterback. So I think that gives
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: Ole Miss a little bit of an edge that maybe
• 23:00
  Speaker 9: some other offenses haven't had against them. But Miami is
• 23:03
  Speaker 9: really good and you're seeing a team that's peaking at
• 23:07
  Speaker 9: the right time. You know, it's it's kind of funny
• 23:10
  Speaker 9: to go back to all the controversy over the end
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: of the you know, the way the selections went down,
• 23:16
  Speaker 9: where you know, Notre Dame won ten games in a
• 23:19
  Speaker 9: row and got left out for an Alabama team that
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: really over the last month of the season was not
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: that great and Miami almost didn't make it. And Miami
• 23:28
  Speaker 9: they almost didn't make it because they struggled in the
• 23:31
  Speaker 9: middle of the season and started really low in the rankings.
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: But that team over the last four games was dominant
• 23:36
  Speaker 9: and you're seeing that now.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they kicked a couple of games middle of the year,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: but after that and before, I mean, yeah, they're they're
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: They're always always looked like a playoff worthy team. You
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: can't say that about Alabama and Notre Dame looked like
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: a playoff worthy team, and that's the team that would
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: have the complaint. But now you move on the drama
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: with Ole miss and the coaches stud I I look
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin to me is one of the most unlikable
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: people in sports unless he's coaching for you and then
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: leading your team to great success or some success in
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: that regard, but with the coaching situation. People don't know.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: You know, all these coaches he took with him, they
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: have been what loaning them to ole Miss? And now
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: there's only two left, including the offensive coordinator for this game.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: And I'm curious what would happen if they win? Do
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: those does Charlie Weis junior? How is he forced to
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: go to LSU and miss the national championship game? What's
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: the story there?
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: It sounds like Charlie Weis Junior is good. I think
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: Blane Kiffin is merciful enough to realize how badly that
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: would mess with them up. But yeah, it was like
• 24:36
  Speaker 9: as soon as the portal opened suddenly he wasn't so
• 24:41
  Speaker 9: leaning about it. But it's kind of from what it
• 24:44
  Speaker 9: sounds like, it's kind of up to those assistants. The
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: running back running best coach was originally reported to not
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: becoming or not staying with ole Miss, and now he
• 24:52
  Speaker 9: is a couple others aren't. I just think at this
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: point in the season, like, as long as Charlie West
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: Junior is there, all the plays they should be Okay.
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: I don't know that the position coaches are that essential.
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: I mean, they would frankly be more missed in practice
• 25:08
  Speaker 9: and in games. Yeah, but even there, these staffs, you know,
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: used to be a limit on how many assistant coaches
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: could coach. It was pretty strict, like you can only
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: these nine guys the only guys that can coach on
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: the field during practice. And they've gone all rid of
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: all that. And these staffs have a million, you know,
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: assistant coaches. So as long as Charlie Weis junior can
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: keep doing it, they should be okay.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Stuart Madiel join US Athletic the audible All right, Friday,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: it is a rematch Oregon Indiana, two teams from the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: Big Ten that met in Eugene this year. Indiana frankly
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: dominated that game on a lot of levels. In fact,
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: one of Oregon's touchdowns came on a pick six, and
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: just it was all Indiana. Kurt Signetti and the Hoosiers
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: and the Heisman Trophy winner against Dante Moore and Oregon
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Stu a fun I would say a classic Big Ten matchup,
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: but there's nothing classic about this since one team's been
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: the Big Ten for two years and the other team,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: as you mentioned, is one of the worst teams in
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: college foot all history. But we got a classic Big
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: ten matchups too, and the game is.
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: In Atlanta, right, yeah, absolutely nothing nothing about the Big
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: Ten's roots. I mean, I'm not taking against Indiana at
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: this point. They've they've done absolutely nothing to look vulnerable.
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: And really the story of the first game was that
• 26:20
  Speaker 9: I think Oregon was really caught off guard by how
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: physical Indiana was. They don't Atlantics teams don't get get
• 26:25
  Speaker 9: pushed around like that very often. But then you watch
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: the Texas Tech game, and you know, the Texas Texas
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: offense was inept. So they won twenty three nothing and
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: it looks great on the scoreboard, but it was kind
• 26:37
  Speaker 9: of the same deal. Like Texas texts pass rushers just
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: dominated Oregon's offensive line. So we'll see if they can
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: find it a way to change it up in this matchup.
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: But you know, I do not consider that a top
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: five game. I frankly, if you remember at this point
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: in the playoff last year, two rounds in, everybody was
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: already of the opinion that Ohio State was going to
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: win it. Why are we playing the rest of this
• 27:01
  Speaker 9: of the Ohio States and the national team. And I
• 27:03
  Speaker 9: feel the same way on Indiana right now. That might
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: sound crazy to say, with Indiana. But man, they're fourteen
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: and oh they've beaten three top ten teams. They just
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: kicked the crap out of Alabama there. They look like
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: the best teams.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Well, Stu, I mean if you if you put if
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: you took Indiana's roster and put a you know, put
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Georgia helmets on their heads or Ohio State helmets on
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: their heads the same personnel, I think we'd be saying that, right.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's just that's the thing with college football.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: We can't get past the fact that Indiana's Indiana, and
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: yet this coach, this coach has done something that is historic.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, we just talked about Kaitlyn Deborr and Ryan
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Grubb and kind of you know, we'll see if they
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: were one hit wonders at Washington for two years with
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: you know, four first round picks on offense and actually
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: the best offensive line in the country, which a lot
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: of those guys outside of Penis were still you know,
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: we're kind of there already, so we'll see if that's case.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: You know, Signetti just comes in and rolls. I'm with you,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: I Oregon, though. I guess the one thing is as
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: much as was made of how great Texas Tech defense
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: was going into that game, and they are and outside
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: of Miami they've got you know, maybe Indiana they got
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: as good a defensive line, edge rushers, the whole thing, Bailey,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: all those guys in the country. But Oregon's defense was
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: no joke in that game. And I don't know if
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: Texas tex offense is truly that bad or if Oregon's
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: defense was that good that game. I guess we'll find
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: out against Mendoza and Hemby and the rest of Indiana.
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: I will say Mendoza didn't have a great game up
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: at Oregon. No, they won the game, but like you said,
• 28:32
  Speaker 9: he had a pick six, It wasn't really you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: the highs and one of the highs and winners finer games.
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: So certainly if they can slow him down, maybe force more,
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: that would certainly help to your point about we can't
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: get over being Indiana's uniforms. I do think the last
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: two games have been a turning point if you're somebody
• 28:51
  Speaker 9: who just refused to believe that they're for real. And
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: then they go and remember Ohio State was rolling all
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: season long until the Big Ten title game, so they
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: they held them to what ten points and beat Bio
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: State Indianapolis, and then they beat Alabama thirty eight to three. Like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: I don't think people need to be convinced at this
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: point if they're for real, it's just more, you know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: every time they play one of these teams, like Oregon
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: has more five stars and more probably more guys that
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: will be high round draft picks. And the same will
• 29:22
  Speaker 9: be true if they play Miami in the National Championship Game.
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: But it just it doesn't seem to matter. He he
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: is getting the absolute sign anything, the absolute most out
• 29:31
  Speaker 9: of this roster.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: I'll wrap it up with this.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: There was I think it was Will Leech wrote on
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: the had the great article in the Athletic about not
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: trying to find the next Nick Saban If you're in
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: college football? Are teams going to try to find the
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: next Kurt Signetti? And how do you do that?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Who is he?
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: How do you find that guy?
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: Nah?
• 29:50
  Speaker 9: You know, I try, But I do think he's a unicorn.
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: It's the best. It's the most amazing coaching turnaround I've
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: ever seen. And Pat forty Actually, I have a story
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: up today about with all these stats about like Indiana
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: hasn't lost a fumble since the first game of the season.
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: They have by far the fewest penalty yards of anybody
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: in the in the playoff field. It could just really
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: well coach, there's there's sometimes it's hard to quantify that,
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: but I think in this case you can see, like, yeah,
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: it's it's the coaching now, I do that. I've been
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: saying for years that you know, these schools get caught
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: up in getting the big, flashy hire see Bill Belichick,
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: the Brian Kelly, right, Lincoln Riley, and there's just so
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: many good coaches at the lower levels. In fact, you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: last night Montanna State won the national championship and Oregon
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: State had a chance to hire that guy as their
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: head coach, and they chose Alabama's co offensive coordinators. You know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: it's just there's such a disrespect still for STS coaches
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: and low level coaches. And I think Kurt Signetti is
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: a great example of that guy won every talent to board.
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: Was a great example of somebody who won at the
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: lower levels. And it translate, it really does. If you're
• 31:01
  Speaker 9: if you can win in Division three, Division two, whatever
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: it may be, you can win at the highest level.
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: And UCLA just hiring a Bob Chesney who also came
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: up through that route. So I do think schools are
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: more open to it than they used to be. I
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: think you are seeing more low level coaches get hired
• 31:18
  Speaker 9: at the Powerpour level, but it's not the default. And
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: so Indiana for will forever get the credit for looking
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: past all that and hiring the coach of James Madison.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Tell people what the audible podcast What do you guys
• 31:30
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• 31:32
  Speaker 9: We've got another episode on Wednesday that will hit your
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  Speaker 9: will come back Saturday morning, not Sunday morning, Saturday morning
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  Speaker 9: to recap the semi finals.
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  Speaker 3: Ah, yes, that makes sense. That makes a ton of sense.
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  Speaker 3: All right, my friend, great stuff. Enjoy the Fiesta Bowl
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  Speaker 3: and uh, we'll see what happens. We'll talk to you
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: next week because we head into a national championship game
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: on Monday the nineteenth, which is MLKA Day.
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  Speaker 1: My friend, Thank you so much, Stuart.
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  Speaker 9: All right, thanks guys, All right.
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• 32:02
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  Speaker 1: Sports Todd la Wiki is here with us. How are
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  Speaker 1: you very good? Good to see you.
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  Speaker 7: Happy holladay to you and all of your great listeners.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Well in a happy new Year to you as well.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: It is a happy new year. Let's I want to
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: right off the get go. Let's talk about your hockey team.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about this hockey team that is sitting right
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: in your first place. And it wasn't that long ago.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Three weeks ago, this team was on the verge of
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: being out of the playoffs in a lot of ways.
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: What's going on, Well, I think there's good chemistry in
• 33:20
  Speaker 7: that locker room. You know, we might not have a
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: quote unquote superstar on this team, but we have heart
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: and the players like playing together. And I was just
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: down in the locker room and it's amazing. I never
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: get tired of hanging out with the players. But you know,
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: Jordan Eberle's in a pair of shorts and walking around
• 33:40
  Speaker 7: holding a hockey stick.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: There's a day off of them, by the way, he
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: loves it.
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's walking around, he was holding his stick, and
• 33:48
  Speaker 7: you know, Groovy is down there. And if you want
• 33:51
  Speaker 7: to learn about never giving up, his career took him
• 33:56
  Speaker 7: all the way down to Coachella Valley. He was the
• 34:00
  Speaker 7: finalist for the VESNA, but the year before he came here,
• 34:04
  Speaker 7: he was fundamental to the incredible run year two. But
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: he hit some rough patch there, but he never gave
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: up and he never lost the faith ultimately in himself.
• 34:15
  Speaker 7: And since November he has I think the best goals
• 34:18
  Speaker 7: against average in the NHL, and it's really amazing. And
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: when you have two goalies, we're actually carrying three, but
• 34:25
  Speaker 7: those two guys specifically playing that well, that's how you
• 34:31
  Speaker 7: win games. And Joey Decord has played outstanding against you know, Boston.
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: He made some big, big saves, but you know I
• 34:41
  Speaker 7: went up to that game in Vancouver and you know
• 34:44
  Speaker 7: he played great there. Grooby and Calgary's It's really fantastic
• 34:49
  Speaker 7: and fun to watch, and it's why I've loved sports
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: all these years.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: Todd lightwike you with us on our Daily power Play
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: and we're gonna actually we'll play some of this today.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: We'll have some more Daily power played more with Todd.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: But I want to get to.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: You and I had a cop I think one of
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: the first conversations I ever had with you when you
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: were at Seahawks and I was critical on the air
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: after Jim Moore got let go after one year. You
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: came up to me and I told this story in
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: the air. A number of times you came up to
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: me and city and you know why you were. You
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: were in the press conference the a little mar I
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: think there's times you got to make a tough decision
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: to change. You did that the last couple of years
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: with two other coaches. You brought Lane Lambert in coaching
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: makes a difference. We see that across the lake at
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: your old employer with the Seahawks, with Mike McDonald. Coaching
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: makes a difference. What did you guys see in Lane Lambert?
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Because there's no doubt he has made a difference this year.
• 35:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he's you know, and you don't really know until
• 35:38
  Speaker 7: you're getting into the trench with someone and and that's hard.
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: And you know, I must admit that I went when
• 35:44
  Speaker 7: I hear about, you know, our first coach leaving, our
• 35:49
  Speaker 7: second coach who took us and you know Dan Biosman
• 35:53
  Speaker 7: coach Hella Valley two years to the finals, there's thirty
• 35:56
  Speaker 7: two teams and that's everybody's competitive at any league in
• 35:58
  Speaker 7: the world. And so that was hard. But you know,
• 36:02
  Speaker 7: then we looked around and there was Lane Lambert, who
• 36:05
  Speaker 7: had been a part of winning programs. He was the
• 36:08
  Speaker 7: associate head coach in Toronto, and he just sort of
• 36:13
  Speaker 7: stood out as a guy who knew what the pieces
• 36:16
  Speaker 7: were to win and the approach he was going to take.
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: And you know, our media guy said, the locker room
• 36:22
  Speaker 7: last night was postgame, was as good as any any
• 36:25
  Speaker 7: locker room they'd ever been in in our world. And
• 36:29
  Speaker 7: so I think he's done a good job. And I
• 36:31
  Speaker 7: think that, you know, there's still work to be done.
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: We played by the Way last night with arguably what
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: some people think are two best players. You know, Jaden
• 36:41
  Speaker 7: Schwartz was out and I saw many down his hand
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: as a rapt he he's been out skating and I'm
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: telling him, don't shoot, man, don't shoot, and it's so
• 36:48
  Speaker 7: tempting for him. But you know, it's it's why people
• 36:53
  Speaker 7: love it is because sometimes players do things that no
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: one thinks they can. And I go back to GROUPY.
• 37:00
  Speaker 7: A lot of people thought his days might be over.
• 37:03
  Speaker 7: And you know, they say of the humming bird that
• 37:07
  Speaker 7: everyone knows, you know, all the scientists and physicists know
• 37:10
  Speaker 7: that the hummingbird can't fly. It's winging mass is not
• 37:13
  Speaker 7: large enough to support its body weight. Everyone knows that,
• 37:16
  Speaker 7: but the humming bird. And I've always thought of like,
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: you know, if you have in your mind you can
• 37:20
  Speaker 7: do something, anything is possible. And I think that sports,
• 37:24
  Speaker 7: and let's talk a little bit about the Seahawks. Yeah,
• 37:28
  Speaker 7: you know the Mariners. There's a lot of winning that's
• 37:30
  Speaker 7: happening in this town. And this town is is I
• 37:33
  Speaker 7: think the greatest sports market in our country and arguably
• 37:37
  Speaker 7: the greatest sports market in the world per capita. No
• 37:41
  Speaker 7: one has a better sports market than we have. And
• 37:44
  Speaker 7: when you look at what the Mariners did and how
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: they've rebuilt that and you know they're GM Jerry, we
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: don't have a bigger fan. He is just an incredible supporter.
• 37:55
  Speaker 7: But you know, John Stanton a year ago has taking
• 37:57
  Speaker 7: a lot of heat, and boy, that team and they're
• 37:59
  Speaker 7: built and they're going to be good for a.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Long time to come.
• 38:02
  Speaker 7: John Schneider reinventing that, the ownership having the belief in
• 38:07
  Speaker 7: John that he'd do it, and they didn't rebuild on
• 38:11
  Speaker 7: the fly. Look what happened. And I'm here to tell
• 38:14
  Speaker 7: you they're going to the big game because I just
• 38:19
  Speaker 7: think they have it going. They're hitting at the right time,
• 38:21
  Speaker 7: and you know, and what they did this past weekend
• 38:26
  Speaker 7: was incredible. The score should have been even greater than
• 38:31
  Speaker 7: what it was, but they went into the other guy's
• 38:32
  Speaker 7: building and that game was even more important for San
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: Francisco than and it was just fantastic. And if you
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: look at that roster top to bottom, they've got everyone
• 38:43
  Speaker 7: playing with passion and purpose and it's an incredible thing.
• 38:46
  Speaker 7: The players are proud to pull that jersey on.
• 38:48
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  Speaker 3: We got more with Todd tomorrow. We kind of split
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  Speaker 3: First and foremost, Mike Holm Grin. Happy New Year to you.
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  Speaker 6: Happy day, Same to you. It has been a while,
• 41:35
  Speaker 6: so same to you. I hope you had a.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Great one I did.
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I hope you had a great time with your big
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: family as well and all the grand kids and all
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: of that. It's a fun time of the year. So
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: hopefully you got some family time with there. Hopefully you
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: got to see everybody then. Know they're kind of spread
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: out around the country, right, Yeah, No.
• 41:50
  Speaker 6: All eighteen we went over to sun Katia. I spent
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: a week over there in the snow and it was fun.
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: It was really fun. And all eighteen showed up.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Wow that is that must have been a big house.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: It was, you know what, Oh, that's significant.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: Now my kids found my kids founded Oh okay, and
• 42:11
  Speaker 6: I paid for it. Yeah, that's weird, so you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: but it was well worth it. It had a theater
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: and a full gym and a swimming pool. Oh, it's unbelievable.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: That is absolutely awesome. Well, it's great to have you on. Yeah,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I mentioned the schedule's been odnest. So we had what
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: the last two weeks we had New Year's Eve, we
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: didn't have a shows, we were doing bowl games, and
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: then the week before was Christmas Eve.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: So obviously we were off.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: So it's been at least three weeks since we've had
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: a chance to talk to you, but a lot to
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: get here. This is why I love having you on
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: because I love the insights into how things operate in
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: the NFL, and I've got a couple of things off
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: the field, but on the field, let's go on the field.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Two thousand and five, you guys clinched the number one seed,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: home field advantage and all that in the playoffs, so
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: you were able to In fact, you guys did it.
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: We laughed the whole time that there's only one time
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: in the French history. This will be the fourth time
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks have been the number one seed going into
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: the NFL playoffs and this there's only been one time,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: and that was two thousand and five with you guys,
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: where you were able to rest starters in a week
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: in the final week of the season. Pete's two times
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: they had to play till the bitter end, and of
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: course last week Mike had to do the same. But
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: the end results the same. Mike, it's a top seed,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: it's a bye week. What do you do as a coach,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: how do you balance staying sharp and how do you
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: balance keeping guys rested or getting guys rested? What's the
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: balancing act?
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: Like, well, you know, that's that's a good question, and
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: it's so important because I've been on both ends of that.
• 43:39
  Speaker 6: You know. The first one when I was an assistant
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: coach with the forty nine ers and we were in
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: that position. We had the first round by and coach Walsh,
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: who was brilliant. But our practice schedule, we prepared for
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: two teams, you know, it was like that, and we
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: had two weeks. You have two weeks to prepare, and
• 44:00
  Speaker 6: we just went at the whole time and we wound
• 44:03
  Speaker 6: up playing Minnesota in San Francisco and they beat us,
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: and we were very sluggish, very We played a bad game.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: And so that I remembered that, and so when I
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: had the chance, I just wanted to I wanted to
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: time it out. So so the players, you know, you
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: got to give them some time because at that point
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: in the season, you know this guys are banged up
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: and they're sore and they're hurting. Let them heal up.
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: You're still doing practicing, but it's a little bit lighter
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: that first week, and then when you get into the
• 44:35
  Speaker 6: actual week of the game, it's more like a regular schedule.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: I don't know what Mike's going to do, but that's
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: how we did it.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: He is see.
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: There's practice today I'm just looking at because I said,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: wait a second, and I want to make sure they'd
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: actually sent something out looks like practice today, practice Thursday, tomorrow,
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: and then I think they're off until next week.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: They're off Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: So yeah, that makes sense. You know, that makes sense
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: to me. They and if you've lived through something like that,
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: you know how the players need that time. And you're saying, well,
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: way I can get a lot of product, you can
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: get a lot of work done. Yes you can, but again,
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: I think it hurts you in the long run. So
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: I think he's doing exactly the right thing.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: You work all that the entire year to get a buye,
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: and if you don't use it as a buye, then
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I guess what's the what's the point, right, Mike?
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: No, that's exactly what I mean. That's exactly what I'm saying.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: And you know, but the thing was, you know, I mean,
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: coach Walls didn't make many mistakes, he really didn't. And
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: but he afterwards, afterwards, he got the staff together and goes,
• 45:37
  Speaker 6: that's on me. You know, I've you know, we approached
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: it to say well, we won't do that again and
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: so you know, and we had a chance to go
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: to the Super Bowl again the next year and then
• 45:46
  Speaker 6: the year after that as well. So we did it differently.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: I Mike Holgroan with us the I want to before
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I forget, I'm to come back to the playoffs in
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: a second, but the before before Mike McDonald the best record,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: and I think actually Mike's number two. Mike McDonald's best
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: road record over the first couple of years for a coach,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: you know is George Seiffert. And you were on that staff.
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: You were on that staff, so you understand how difficult
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: is it to do what both you guys did with
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: Seafford and the forty nine ers back then, and what
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Mike's done the first two years by having that incredible
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: road record.
• 46:23
  Speaker 6: No, it's really something because if you're if you're with
• 46:26
  Speaker 6: a team on the West Coast, you know you're going
• 46:29
  Speaker 6: to put in Typically at the end of the year
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: when they tally up the miles, you're leading, I mean
• 46:34
  Speaker 6: you are leading, or you're right up there and there
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: the top, and so it's hard. I think now you
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: might know better than me. I think now because of
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: all the science in it and the different people telling
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: you what to eat and how to sleep and all
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: these rules that they probably have a better handle on
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: it than we did, but that that's remarkable because one
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: you're playing in the other guy stadium, that's hard. Then
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: you're traveling, that's hard. But the idea of going in
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: Friday with a cross country trip, that's what we did
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: Saturday for a little shorter flight. But no, it's it's
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: remarkable and blensed is hard. I mean, he's done a
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: great job all over, but that one really sticks out.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: Mikeel you're joining us weekly visit. I'm at the thirty
• 47:27
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• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Todd l Wickie says, Hi, We had him on earlier today.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: So Todd says hi.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Mike, Mike, what what you said? Preparing for multiple teams?
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: How do you do that?
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: Like?
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: What?
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: So?
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: What's the coaching staff doing this week? Players are off
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: this weekend? So games are Saturday Sunday. The two of
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: the NFC games are Saturday and the other one, the
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: forty nine ers game against Philadelphia.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Is Sunday.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: So what do you do? I guess by the time
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: you get to Sunday you might know who you're going
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: to play. But how do you prepare?
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: Well, the thing is, I think again, it's you have
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: two weeks to prepare. So the real down in derby
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: work and preparing for the team you're going to play
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: happens in the second week. So this first week, though,
• 48:10
  Speaker 6: you know, it's it's kind of a fun exercise you have.
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: You ask your coach, okay, who are going to play?
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: Figure it out? Someone tell me, some smart guy, tell
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: me who we're going to play. And so we play
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: that game with him and have kind of some fun
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: with it. But basically you're you're not You're you're looking
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: at both teams or teams that you think you have
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: a shot at playing, and you're you're putting things on
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: paper as much as anything else. Then when you practice
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: on the field, like Mike's giving him the weekend off Friday, Saturday, Sunday,
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: so I don't you know, and he had to give
• 48:43
  Speaker 6: him rest, you know, and things like that. But you know,
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: so that's what you do, and then you put some
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: things together in a very modified way for both teams
• 48:53
  Speaker 6: and uh, and then you get to the next week
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: and you tear up whatever you put for that team,
• 48:58
  Speaker 6: and now you're playing a regular game.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's four pots that they could play the Rams,
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: they could play the Panthers, they could play the Packers,
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: they could play the forty nine ers. I mean, and
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: in that regard, they played them, right, So you've seen
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: all those teams.
• 49:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but you think that, you think that the Panthers
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: aren't going to beat the Rams. I don't, right, right,
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: So I would be thinking, Okay, we're gonna put the
• 49:17
  Speaker 6: Panthers over here. We played them already, we kind of
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: know what they do. We have a little bit of
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: a game plan already because we just played them. Yeah,
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: but I think the Rams are gonna win that game.
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: And then the Packers are playing who are the Packers playing?
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: They're playing the Bears, They're they're playing the play and
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: then and then the set. They're the Packers of the
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: seven seeds. So if they win, that's the that's the
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: late game on Saturday. If they win that game, then
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: you know you're playing the Packers. It's done, right, So
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: you're playing the Packers and that and you saw them
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: in training camp, you had a joint practice in a
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: preseason game. But that's the one team that you haven't
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: seen play. I would assume that's the one that's the
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: heaviest lifting in terms of preparing.
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: That probably is. But you know they have a breaty
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: to handle on it. So you're gonna get and the
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: coaching statt now in. You know, they had twenty six guys,
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: so you you got you go these ten guys, give
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: me you guys go work on this. Yeah. The rest
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: of the guys are over here doing whatever they do.
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: But you know, I think the Packers, the Packers are
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: struggling just a little bit. Their quarterback's been injured. Yeah
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: they haven't, they had. Their record isn't what we thought
• 50:17
  Speaker 6: it could be or should be. And I think la
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: Fuller feels the same way. But the Seahawks will play
• 50:24
  Speaker 6: the lowest seed. Is that correct?
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: That's correct? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: So for forty nine ers, Packers, or you won't play
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: the Eagles, you won't play the Bears, but everybody else
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: could be in play. I mean, how much do you
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: do like if you see the forty nine Ers again
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: or you see the Rams. You've seen those two teams
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: your last two games, and I guess they mixed in
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: with the Panthers game in between, right, I mean, but
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers in the in the Rams. I mean,
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: if you've got to play one of those, more than
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: likely you're going to see one of those two teams again,
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: whether it's next week or the week after, you're probably
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: going to see one of those two teams again. Sure,
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: that's so three times in one year. I think you
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: guys went through that with the Rams, the Saint Louis
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: Rams maybe and some other teams along the way. Like
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: how challenging is that for for either team or is
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: it just the equal challenge for both?
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: Well, I think it's an equal challenge. I think what
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: you do is what you got to be careful of,
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: is you don't get too nutting, too crazy. You know
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: that you want to do what you do best. You
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: know them, they know you. So I'm not going to
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: change everything, but I'm going to have some wrinkles in
• 51:25
  Speaker 6: there that they haven't seen perhaps in the games. And
• 51:28
  Speaker 6: then it boiled boiled down to what it always boils
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: down to, you know, executing and playing well and playing
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: with a lot of fire, which the Seahawks have going.
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: But when I was in with the forty nine ers,
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: we played the Rams four times. We played them in
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: the preseason, two in the regular season and then in
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: the NFC Championship game we played him four times, and
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: if memory serves me correctly, that's how he went about it.
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: That's how Coach Walts went about it. You know. He
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: we had some new stuff. There was always new stuff,
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: but you always had your really good stuff. And you
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: might change formations, changed some motions, so it looks a
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: little different, but basically, yeah, you're always going to keep
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: your good stuff.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Mike.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: I've never asked you this, but I'm just don't don't worry.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go down the road that's going to
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: make you it uncomfortable. I don't think, because I know
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: you think I do that on purpose sometimes.
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: I no, No, I know you don't. Yeah, every time,
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: go ahead.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: You got here in nineteen ninety nine, and this organization
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: had had a handful one, two, three, four, five playoff
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: appearances before you got here. You got here in nineteen
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: ninety nine. Paul Allen and I talked about this the
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: other day. Paul Allen made the decision, We're going to
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: go out and we're going to get Mike Homwran. He's
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: won a Super Bowl and I always I know a
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: lot of fans understand this. Some are maybe a little younger,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: like if my son was listening, green Bay hasn't all
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: wasn't good for a long time, like Green Bay, the
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: Green Bay you see now with Brett Faarr of Aaron Rodgers,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Jordan h That wasn't the Green Bay when michae homerings
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: out there. You turned that franchise around and you got
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: and then you came to Seattle and did the same.
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: It's it's been a long time. We're looking about twenty
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: six years, I guess right, since you got here in nine.
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: But since you got here, other coaches, gms, executives, et cetera.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: This organization has made the playoffs far more often than
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: they have it since nineteen ninety nine. Do you take
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: a little bit of pride deep down and knowing that, hey,
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: you kind of established the culture. You kind of established
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: the baseline. This is what the expectations.
• 53:31
  Speaker 6: Are, you know what I do. That's that's the fun
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: part of looking back on it is that we had
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: some tough times and it took us just a little
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: while to get going. But then establishing the culture, if
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: you will, that's term is used all the time. But
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: the players getting used to winning and getting used to
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: doing a certain certain things a certain way. Every coach
• 53:56
  Speaker 6: has their way of doing things. Every coach does, and
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: so the players either buy in or they don't. And
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: we took us a while to get some of the
• 54:04
  Speaker 6: players who didn't buy in, who had been here who
• 54:07
  Speaker 6: didn't buy in, and then you know, their their contracts
• 54:11
  Speaker 6: were such so we couldn't do it right away. But
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: then eventually your team is full of people that know
• 54:18
  Speaker 6: you and know what you want. And so I think
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: that happens, and I take pride in that. I think
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: I love my players. We did a lot of good things,
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: and yeah, and then set the table a little bit,
• 54:30
  Speaker 6: I think, for you know what Pete has done and
• 54:33
  Speaker 6: now what Mike has done as doing. And then the fans,
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: you know the twelve, I did the twelve. Todd l
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: Wickie came in and did that. But that was huge.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: And now this is a tough place to play and
• 54:49
  Speaker 6: everyone in the league knows that.
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: And that's that's why I bring it up, because we
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: had a conversation on Monday, and I know black money
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: comes around for coaches around the league. I'm sure for
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: guys like you, you look at it and you're like, man,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: this is just every year, you know, and John Harbaugh
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: getting fired. I don't think many of us saw that
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: coming necessarily, right, you know, and a guy that had
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: great success for all those years in Baltimore. And it's
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: just there's no there's no job security for guys anymore.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: And I may mention this, I said to me, what
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: comes out is you've got to have it. You can
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: have the best coaches in the world. You get an
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: incredible coach along the way if you don't have the
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: players first, But the support of ownership in front office,
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: none of that matters, right, None of that matters. And
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: I guess that's why I go back to not that
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: Paul and Jody and Bert haven't made mistakes. We all
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: can look at a couple of years towards the end
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: of the whole rontenure when there were mistakes made, But
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: by and large, the culture still starts at the top,
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: does it not. I look through the league. I mean,
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know how the Jets will ever win. They
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: just don't have any of those things we're talking about.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: And there's a few teams like that, you know that
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: just I don't know if they can ever get over
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: that hump unless something changes at the very very.
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: Top, mic No, And that's you said it perfectly that
• 56:04
  Speaker 6: you have to have a blend and a communication between
• 56:08
  Speaker 6: ownership and front office and coach and whoever is assigned
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: the responsibility. The beauty of Paul for me was that
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: he was the owner, but then he stepped away and
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: watched and just wanted to help, just wanted to do,
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: you know, what he could do to help. He didn't
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden make a football to city. He
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: didn't do any of that stuff. And then in Green Bay,
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: we didn't have an owner, so it's just Ron Wolf
• 56:35
  Speaker 6: and me, and Ron said, you know, Mike, we're kind
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: of owners here, you know. And so I didn't have that.
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: In San Francisco, Eddie de Barlow, you know, loved his team,
• 56:45
  Speaker 6: loved his players, and was a great owner. So but
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: then now you see organizations that the owner comes in
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: doesn't know a lot about football. He was he was
• 56:54
  Speaker 6: a billionaire and made his money doing something else, but
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: thinks that that he can just transfer that to football decisions.
• 57:02
  Speaker 6: And it's hard. You can't do that the owner, and
• 57:05
  Speaker 6: that's owners front office. If you can get a front
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: office person like I was lucky with Ron. And then
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: in Seattle I had Ted Thompson and Mike crime Fell
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: and those guys with me. No one pointed the finger
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: said I did this. You didn't. You know everyone it's
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: it's no one got ramped up about who got the credit,
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: you know. And and you see a lot of that
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: in the league now. And so you got to have players.
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: And I would say, like anybody, you know, sometimes the
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: coach is in a position he's you got to play
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: the cards you were dealt and maybe maybe shoot, maybe
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: that didn't they didn't give you good cards.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and but if you don't have that support
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: and it doesn't matter. And then I you know, I look,
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: you know, I asked you, if you take pride, you
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: got to love with John Schneider's then the last three drafts,
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: these guys, I mean you look at that roster. Yeah,
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: then even the free agent pick ups to Marcus Lawrence
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: making the decision no more Geno, no more Russ.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Sam Darnold.
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: I mean, what your young protege way back in the
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: day has done.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Todd Lowicke had an interesting point.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: He says, you know, like he you know, when he
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: worked at Green Bay and then he goes to Washington
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: and didn't work there, had kind of his ears clipped
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: a little bit. Right, he comes back and he remakes himself.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if there's a better executive in
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: the league right now than John Schnetter. I'd be hard
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: pressed to say there is no.
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: You're exactly right. And one of the nice things you
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: said about reflecting back on what we did, when before
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: they played the forty nine ers, John texted me. He
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: was at the hotel and he said, I just want
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: to say happy New Year, first of all. Secondly, i'men
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: sitting in the hotel. I'm about ready to go over
• 58:43
  Speaker 6: to the stadium in San Francisco. And I reflected back
• 58:46
  Speaker 6: on thirty years ago today when Green Bay came in
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: and played San Francisco and you and Ron had invited
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: me to go along, and he was a young, upstart guy,
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: you know, he was on the team plane. And he
• 58:59
  Speaker 6: just reflects on that and he just thanked me. It
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: was it was just a real nice letter and and
• 59:05
  Speaker 6: or text. And I just I you eiled him back
• 59:07
  Speaker 6: and just thanked him and whisked him well and keep
• 59:10
  Speaker 6: it going, and you're doing a great job that kind
• 59:12
  Speaker 6: of stuff, and he has he's now the guy, and uh,
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: he's still he's done a great job.
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: Well here by the coaching trees all the time, but
• 59:20
  Speaker 3: there's other trees too, I think, you know, for all
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: of us, no matter what we do in life, hopefully
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: you leave a legacy a lot of times, and most
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: of the time it's your children and who and what
• 59:27
  Speaker 3: they are. But in the professional world, there's no doubt.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: That's why I brought it up. I think, you know,
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: I look at John Schneider. I know there's a Mike
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Hong Grin Rob Wolf connection. There's no doubt there's a
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: connection there. And watching the success or having is a
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: ton of fun. And next week Mike will talk about
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: an actual football game coming up.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll do that next time.
• 59:44
  Speaker 6: I know. Yeah, I got to ask you one thing
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: real quick, though.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: What do you got? Yeah? What do you got?
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: Did the what did the what young Washington quarterback really leave?
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Well he's trying to. I don't, Yes, I think he will.
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: I think, oh boy, No, you know, Mike, you know
• 59:59
  Speaker 3: there's no rules in college football. There's there's no rules
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: in college football. I mean, they're just all I mean,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: I don't listen. Somewhere Lavelle Edwards is rolling over right now,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: just shaking his.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: Head, saying, right, you know you knew him?
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you like, there's no way that Lavell Edwards
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: or Mike hombrid could coaching today's college football.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to tell you that right now.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 3: You didn't like agents, and when you were in the NFL,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: you didn't like who had who had a cut and
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 3: dry job as an agent in the NFL. You didn't
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: like those guys. Can you imagine dealing with teams of
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: people for an eighteen or nineteen year old kid?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: No, I don't know. It just blows my mind.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Actually I would like to see it just because for
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: the entertainment value. Good, just you know, to talk about it.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Does it? Does? Ah?
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: You know what, do me a favor. You're alm with
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: Softy tomorrow, right Thursday tomorrow?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, bring.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: It up with him, just you know, hey, what's going
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: on with your quarter anyway?
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going to just if there's a lull in
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: the program, I'm going to bring that up and then
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: watch the fireworks just off.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: You can just take your head set off and go home.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 3: At that point, you'll be home early for dinner. Okay, because.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: Michae I'll talk to you next week. Have a great week, sir.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: All right, buddy too.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: That is Mike Homer and the Great Mike holmber In
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  Speaker 1: What an absolute travesty.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 10: How dare somebody leave some thing he's been committed to
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 10: to go make.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Some more money?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 9: Hold on, and that just happened.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 7: To the pac twelve.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: Hmm.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: I guess if you're not a part of the solution,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: you might just be part of the problem.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 11: Okay, Well, he's short the cat process. What's the big deal?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 11: I honestly, there were a couple of games. I'm like,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 11: we're better off if he doesn't play here. Good riddans.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 11: I wish you nothing but failure.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 10: I love the fact that that happened to you, Dub.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 10: The day that Dick Fane was talking trash about Wazoo,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 10: the football gods called for karma, and.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: I hope it happens again.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: All Right, we got a lot more to get to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: as far as the talkbacks. Let me let me hit
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: on a couple of those, and there may be some
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: more of the same tone coming.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: It's a similar vibe, the one.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: That I love because I see it on the text
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: line too. I see it on social media. The Mount
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: Williams is not any good. He's short, doesn't process defenses,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: Da da dah, blah blah blah, et cetera, et cetera.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: Now all that, I'd leave it for a Hugh Millin
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: er somebody to kind of fill me in on how
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: good this young man.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Is as a quarterback in terms of the things we
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: just mentioned. I know this.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: He's an electric athlete. I mean electric athlete that is.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: I mean he's special, got a terrific arm, accuracy in
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: the Michigan game, turnovers all that, But the man is
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: he dangerous?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Well, if he wasn't, why would anybody going after him?
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 11: You know?
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: And Jessamine, therein lies the point I'm gonna make you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: talk about. This is the inevitable. We did the same thing.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: I'm sure I did the same thing with cam Ward.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: I know I did it with Mattiir. Now in my
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: defense with Matiir, do you think Oklahoma got what they
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: paid for?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Nope, not a chance.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: So I understand the bitterness. And the first reaction is
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: he sucks anyway, and I'm here for all of it.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: What you guy? Fire away? Yes, the portal sucks.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 12: Kids are gonna leave and there's nothing you can do
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 12: to stop them. The problem with this one is that
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 12: he signed a deal a few days ago and then
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 12: wants to leave. If you want to make big boy money,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 12: you're gonna get big boy.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 9: Rules as well.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 12: So he kind of has whatever's coming to him.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 12: Kup fans are not gonna feel any sympathy after losing
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 12: their guy to Oklahoma last year, But he didn't sign
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 12: a deal three days.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 13: Or I'm pissed about demand leaving, but he they have
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 13: just screwed himself. If Washington truly gets to choose the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 13: buyout price. What school is gonna pay Washington ten plus
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 13: million and then turn around and give them on four
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 13: more like he's.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 14: Screwed, Afternoon New Clowns.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: So here's the deal.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 14: I'm still gonna watch my football. I'm still going to
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 14: root for Washington, but I shall not contribute money to
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 14: the athletic department. I will not buy a single purse
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 14: of merchandise that is hawked promoted by any student athlete.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I certainly will.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 14: Not buy any more Husky gear with a name on it.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: I'm pissed.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 14: I want to go scorce to Earth, and to me,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 14: this is a sign of integrity, nothing else.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: Thanks guys, well as John McClain said so eloquently, and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: die hard.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the party.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 8: Pal.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: Andrews, can you play not the last Welcome to the
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: party one, the second one, the second and last one
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: again for me again, that is that's the problem that
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: we're gonna look at. Tell me when it's ready, because
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: that's the one that's the interesting dynamic here.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: That's an interesting Okay, fire.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Away, Afternoon New Clowns.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: So here's the deal.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 14: I'm still going to watch my football, still going to
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 14: root for Washington, but I act will not contribute money
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 14: to the athletic department. I will not buy a single
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 14: purse of merchandise that is hawked promoted by any student athlete.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 14: I certainly will not buy any more Husky gear with.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: A name on it.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 14: I'm pissed. I want to go scorse to Earth, and
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 14: to me, this is a sign of integrity, nothing else.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 14: Thanks guys.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm going back a year ago right now, and
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: I just I just had PTSD because because that is
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: what all of us in Crimson Gray were saying a
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 3: year ago. And I still kind of tend to believe
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: a little bit about what that guy said. You know,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, here's the problem you as a as a fan,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: doesn't matter what school, doesn't matter if it's purple, gold, green, yellow,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Crimson Gray, Crimson and cream does it doesn't matter, doesn't
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: matter Oregon State, where every day.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: Is helps should be something we can all agree on.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what you are.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: If you are being asked as a fan to pay
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: your players of your favorite team, that's what you're being
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: asked to do with By donating to whatever nil fund
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: that particular school has in return, what you get is
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: zero return. On your investment long term, maybe you get
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: a year. And when I say maybe you get a
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: year half the time you don't eat for top guys.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: You're not gonna get that because dudes are gonna opt
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: out of the bowl game. They're gonna opt out, they're
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: gonna tap out, they're gonna do whatever. And so when
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: I say I've got PTSD a year ago, guess what.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: That's exactly what I heard from Wazoo fans. And I
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: have a problem with it. Why would I want to donate?
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: We're being asked right now. We've got a really good
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: freshman basketball player Ace Class. That was, Oh, we got
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: to donate to the nil got to keep it. We
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: ain't keeping Ace Glass there. First of all, he probably
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: don't want to play for that coach. But second of all,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: he's gonna stay. He's good, he's really good. You think
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: you think that we're gonna be able to keep him
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: in Pullman when Kentucky or Kansas or whoever else is
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: going to ask for him. Hell thos, So what are
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 3: we investing in?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: May just finish? What are we investing in?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: We're investing in a team that's going to be you know,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: fifteen and fifteen this year in basketball, and we're investing
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: in that kid, so, you know, so we can watch
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: fifteen wins and not even a sniff of the postseason
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 3: and then he leaves after this year? What did you
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: invest in with Demon Williams? He got you the damn
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 3: LA Bowl. He got you the l A Bowl. Okay,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 3: and in softy men to this yesterday. I think it's
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: important they paid him a ton of money last year.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: He got you the Lable. I know it's team sport
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: and all that. To get you the Lable?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: What was your So you're they're gonna come back and say,
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 3: hey man, hey man, we want more money for quarter
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: for whoever your next quarterback is gonna be, Like how
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: how much of an appetite do you have, as any
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: fan of any school to spend that money?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: Like I have none. I got none, not into again.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: The only thing that comes out of this thing that's good,
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: well outside of my own pure entertainment because I'm a
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: petty individual. Outside of that, is that maybe just maybe
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: that there's some rules, regulations, things change and there's actual,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: you know, restrictions. I just don't you guys are all
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: I think you're living in a dream world thinking that
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: someone's gonna have to pay at ten million. This isn't
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 3: a coach's contract. Guys, It's not gonna happen. It's not
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: gonna happen. And the whole tampering thing's a joke. Everyone tampers.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: You tamper, I tampa, we tamper. We all tamper, We
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: all tamper.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: You got a couple more? Yep, fire away. How's it going, Ian,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: I'm good.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 15: I'm pretty frustrated right now as a U Dove fan. Uh,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 15: it just sucks that we can't have homegrown football in
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 15: college anymore. Like it's not the same at all. You
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 15: know we used to as a growing up a U
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 15: Doah fan. You know, it was always Chris Polk and
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 15: Keith Price and you know even the Jake Browning and homegrown,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 15: you know, even Buddha Baker, you know from Bellevue homegrown.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: We don't have that anymore, and it sucks. I can't
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: stand him.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 10: On Dumont Williams did the same thing to Dave that
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 10: you Duve did to the Pac twelve. I think it's
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 10: funny and ironic and the football gods called for karma.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 5: Hither I j justman Chris Emberien. You know, football fans,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 5: welcome to the Gone Show, where there's less loyalty than
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 5: a Clay Benett promise. Jed Fish stole to Mom Williams
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 5: from Lane Kiffin an ole miss. Then when Fish got
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: the job at you dub stole him Demon Williams from Arizona.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 5: You know what, they're both pukes, Damon Williams and Lane Kiffin.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 5: They deserve each other. Suck it much, go kods. Nobody
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 5: cried when we lost matear So.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 16: I really need someone to explain to me what the
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 16: point of the contract is when it doesn't bind you
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 16: to anything. The contract has made I agree to pay
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 16: you a buttload of money to coach or play for
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 16: my team. You agreed to do that job for the
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 16: duration of the contract.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 12: But apparently you can sign a contract and walk away
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 12: from it two minutes later.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. Go back and told you get
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: a start.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: I talked to the lawyer it was all of the
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: Sammarsonic stuff earlier, and he said that the specific performance
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: clause forced them to perform the duties. That was the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: gist of the lawsuit in two thousand and eight, And
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: that sounds like that's how Washington's going to go after
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 3: Jimon Williams specific performance clause. But yeah, I don't know
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: a Husky fan that wants him back. I don't know
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: how you could ever come back. Now, there's no chance
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: that with scorched earth has happened. That the gentleman that called,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: I think the second talk back we had there that
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: that kind of goes back to what I was talking
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: to the gentleman last night at the Climate pagerina at
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: the hockey game who said kind of the same thing.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: You know, we grew up.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: I'll just give you example. I'm old enough. I remember
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: when the class came in with Steve Vetman and Mark
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: Brunell and those guys for Washington. Yea that ended up
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: being the national championship team. And those guys were Steve
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Tmon was one hundred and ninety pounds coming out of
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: Cheney High School like he and Steve Emtman that you see.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: Now we could all go into why, but let's just
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: say he wasn't the same guy. They developed him over
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: the next three four years, next three years, I guess
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: it was. That's how it used to work. You'd be
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: excited about your freshman class, maybe a couple of those
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: guys get on the field. The next year is sophomores
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: and they start to play. They're playing on special teams
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 3: or maybe they're they're making some contributions here there. And
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: then by year three they're starting and they're huge contributors.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: And you've watched them grow and you've been excited, and
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: then you can't wait for their senior year. Maybe it's
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: a red shirt senior year. That's how it used to be.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: It was a ton of fun, right, That's how we
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: did things. That's how that's how college sports work. That's
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: how college football worked. It doesn't work that way anymore.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: Now I just mentioned I use I'll use Ace Glass again,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: terrific basketball player. I can't get excited for a second.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: Not for a second.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Can I get.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: Excited about him or that program because I know he's
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 3: gone next year one. We had a ton of texts
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: we gotta get to a break. The one text, by
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 3: the way, that this is not the same as you know,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Washington losing all their players Andrews and I got to
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: chuckle out of that. And when Kaln de Borr left
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: a your coach didn't leave b Your best players all
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: went to the.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: NFL that year.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, right, like it always in the NFL, Like it's
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: not going quarterback in my mind, should have won the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 3: Heisman in in Pennix. You had three first round draft picks,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: a wide receiver, you have the best offensive line in
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: the country, et cetera, et cetera. A different time, that's
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: a different deal. Okay, I'm sure he's in a great mood,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: soft field, join us now. Alrighty, alrighty, alrighty, alrighty.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Uh, alrighty.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Then I got one for you. You're gonna like this
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: from back in the day, from the archives.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, what do you mean?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: What is tampering? What is tampering? What is tampa?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 17: Well, that is a great question because nobody in college
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 17: football or college basketball seems to know or give a damn.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 17: So I don't know if the word tampering even exists.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 17: The word tampering the true definition. If you go to
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 17: NCAA dot com, the word tampering means a meatball sandwich.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, honestly, like what the hell man?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: First of all, first of all, is there a better sandwich?
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to eat, it's messy, but meatball.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 17: It depends on the It depends on the roll, depends
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 17: on the bread. You gotta have a soft bun. I
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 17: think a soft roll. And I'm going to tell you
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 17: right now, by the way, and I thought about this
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 17: here day driving home. I've thought about this for many,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 17: many years. And you're gonna laugh at me instantly. So
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 17: what I would like to do is I would like
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 17: to have the room just give me a second of
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 17: silence after I make this proclamation, and you just give
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 17: yourself a chance to consider it.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, just consider it.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 17: I believe that one of the more underrated meatball sandwiches
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 17: is it Subway.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I don't disagree, Okay, I knew you were going to.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: Say that, anybody.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, anybody.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's the best, recent enough to really know.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's the best.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 17: I'm just saying I think a good six inch foot
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 17: long meatball sub from subway six inch or foot long,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 17: foot long.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: Every time I meant six inch, I eat a.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 17: Six inch slash foot log six inch or foot long,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 17: six inch long.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yes, I agree with me.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: I'm with you.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: I'm on board with that. My issue with the subway
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 3: meatball sandwich is you have to be the perfect place
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: to eat it because it's going to be messy.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: A little bit, a little bit by So like if
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: Like I get if I go on subway, I'm usually
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: going to take to go and running like to the
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: like for us, we go to the root small studio.
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: I get there.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: I don't want to do that. Yeah, it's got to
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: be done right. I got to read a tweet from
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: your a poet X.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: What is a tweet?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: What is tamp? What is this tweeting? This came in?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: This came in sixteen hours of ago sixteen Okay, I
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: got it. It's from Dave Maller.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 17: You want to get to it already. We're all waiting
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 17: on pins and needles here.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 3: If I'm a big money donor, I'm not giving a
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: cent to a high school player. Why give money to
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 3: an eighteen nineteen year old who will then bolt after
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 3: a year or two, realize the potential with someone else
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: three or four year transfer players give me the best
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: year of their football, I'll consider it. Forget recruiting high
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: school players. Every scholar he's spent on the power of year.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: Let me take that a step further, because you'll be
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: shocked to know that what Washington fans are feeling. However,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: the dynamics are different with the nil contract sign it
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: would have it. We've we've actually been down this road
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: a couple of times in Pullman.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we guys materier Ward. You might have heard of him. Yeah.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: My thing is, I don't know why you.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: I think the Nile world is going to get a
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: lot harder for everyone trying to get nil money for
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: people because what are you paying for. You're not paying
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: You're paying for one year. You're not paying for an investment.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: So I'm like saying, hey, you know what, Steve vmans
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: a hundred ninety punds from Geni High School.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I think it's beal good.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: We should pay him some money because you know what, in
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: three years ago, nun a national championship, the guys being
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: the best player in college football. You don't have that anymore.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: There's no guarantee guys are staying. It's a one year,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: it's a one year contract. I just mentioned we have
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: a basketball player in Pullman, Ace Glass, an unbelievable freshman player,
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  Speaker 3: and we're hearing this, this is what I hear. Guys
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: got to donate keep Ace Glass in Pullman. He ain't
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: staying in Pullman. He and you know what, there's probably
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: ten programs he'd go to in the country and we're
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 3: not one of them. So why we invest? Why would
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: we invest?
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  Speaker 2: What are you asking me? Is there a what are
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: you asking me?
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  Speaker 3: So I'm asking you would you do? Why would you
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: invest in any nil? Because you guys just paid them
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: on you said it last night. You guys paid a
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 3: ton of money to de Mont Williams and you went
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: to the l A.
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  Speaker 2: Bowl, right correct?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: So what what's the investment for nil? Donor? Right now? Well?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 17: I'm I mean the the like I said last night.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 17: I mean to me, the investment would be to hire
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 17: a mercenary for a season. Go get me Corey Dillon
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 17: for three months. Uh, And I don't give a damn
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 17: what happens the next year, because I'm paying for this year.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: That's Jean Johnson at Chad Johnson at Oregon.
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  Speaker 2: All your time. Yeah, just get just get me a
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: guy for a year.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 17: I will, I will help bring that player to Seattle
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 17: for a season.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not committing past the current year.
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  Speaker 17: And I'm not investing in high school guys because I
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 17: don't want to develop somebody and then have somebody else
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 17: bear the fruits of my labor.
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  Speaker 2: Forget it.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 17: So I if I were a big money donor and
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 17: then had enough cash to actually influence this stuff, I
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 17: would spend my money on the transfer portal, not on
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 17: high school players.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 17: I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on right
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 17: now with Demon Williams that'll blow your mind, absolutely blow
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 17: your mind. I mean, this is a I was talking
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 17: to a guy today who had that. He's exactly right,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 17: this is a thirty for thirty. What's going on right
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 17: now with Demon Williams? I mean, you you think you know,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 17: you don't have any idea what the hell is going
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 17: on behind the scenes right now.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: It's what if I told you? What if I told you?
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  Speaker 17: What if I told you that Ian Furness enjoys a
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 17: good Subway meatballs sandwich. You know that's going to turn
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 17: into an endorsement for somebody arounder, don't you think? I mean,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 17: we just we just gave them a big, a big
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 17: freaking endorsement.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: And Ron cut that sound up and let's get all.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 17: Made of them, get us some free sandwiches. For God's sake,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 17: which I think is illegal. So don't just have a
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 17: very quick question.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 3: A very quick question one answered, what will demon Williams
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: ever play at Washington?
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 17: No, he's done, he's he's uh enemy number one. Goodbye,
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 17: take a walk, kid.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: So you what for
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  Speaker 2: The mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness this paddle day
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  Speaker 2: saying so long everyone,