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Introducing: Last to the Party · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Hey, Hallmark fans, what you're going to hear next is
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  Speaker 1: an episode from our other podcast, Yes, we do talk
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  Speaker 1: about things other than Hallmark Last to the Party. This season,
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  Speaker 1: on Last to the Party, we are discussing every episode
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  Speaker 1: of the new Bravo series in the City. If you're
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  Speaker 1: a fan of Summer House, you need to be watching
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  Speaker 1: this show. So enjoy this episode and head on over
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  Speaker 1: to Last to the Party to.
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  Speaker 2: Subscribe for more.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Last to the Party. Last to the Party
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  Speaker 1: used to be a rewatch podcast. I was new to Bravo,
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  Speaker 1: Wendy knew everything, and we were catching up on what
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  Speaker 1: everyone else had already seen.
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  Speaker 2: That still in our DNA.
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  Speaker 1: But we've evolved. We're not rewatching anymore. We're watching in
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  Speaker 1: real time and we're both figuring it out as we go.
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  Speaker 1: Wendy selves the context, I solve the fresh Eyes, but
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  Speaker 1: and the city is brand new to both of us,
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  Speaker 1: so that changes things a little bit. This is a
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  Speaker 1: reaction and commentary podcast. Now we watch, we talk, we
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  Speaker 1: have opinions. That's the show, that's right, so we are
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  Speaker 1: doing it. We're talking in the city. Quick little orientation
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  Speaker 1: for anybody who's new here. Last Summer we did a
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  Speaker 1: full rewatch of Summer House season one. That was a
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  Speaker 1: good time. Yeah, I'd never seen it before, obviously you had.
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  Speaker 1: You can go back and give that a listen. I
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  Speaker 1: think it's a very interesting concept given where we are
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  Speaker 1: totally in this universe of people, especially Lindsay, Kyle, and Amanda,
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  Speaker 1: all three of them. I think there's references to who
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  Speaker 1: they are in that beginning scene.
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  Speaker 2: But we're here.
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  Speaker 1: We did do a first impression preview episode based on
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  Speaker 1: the trailer that dropped of in the City.
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  Speaker 2: We'll discuss some.
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  Speaker 1: Of that, and now we're here episode one dropped.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen it. I got some thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: Before we jump into that, some quick housekeeping. You can
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  Speaker 1: follow us on Instagram where we are Last to the
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  Speaker 1: Party Pod, your hot takes, your theories, your thoughts on
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  Speaker 1: the cast. Last to the Party Pod at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 2: Are you ready? I'm way ready.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk our preview episode predictions versus the reality of
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  Speaker 1: this show. You said it gave you. Valley season one
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  Speaker 1: vibes absolutely like I don't want to watch forty year
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  Speaker 1: old's navigate life as adults. I think there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of similarities to the Valley, but I think it's better. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I think the players in this show know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: They know how to make good TV. They know how
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  Speaker 2: to make good TV.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and I think that's where the Valley has struggled.
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  Speaker 2: So that's my initial thought. I will I want.
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  Speaker 1: To say now after seeing this first episode that I
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  Speaker 1: think the preview undersold this cast. Oh, because I was like, nah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not really interested in anybody outside Lindsay, Kyle and Amanda,
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  Speaker 1: and I take that all back.
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  Speaker 2: So that's interesting because in the preview.
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  Speaker 1: We were like, these other cast members are taking out
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  Speaker 1: of space, and perhaps there's too many of them.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, are you rolling that back a little bit? Yes? Interesting? Yes, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: not everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I still have a lot of thoughts and I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to get to them eventually in this episode. But all
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  Speaker 1: of these people feel very interconnected. There feels like there's
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  Speaker 1: history there, but there's also new players and I think
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  Speaker 1: a majority, not everyone, a majority are going to.
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  Speaker 2: Make good TV. Yeah. I think we are in for
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  Speaker 2: a good season. Here.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk structure a little bit, because this episode does
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  Speaker 1: something a little bit different based on recent events. The
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  Speaker 1: show opens at the end, Kyle and Amanda are saying
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  Speaker 1: Goodbye at Summerhouse, and we roll right into flash forwarding
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  Speaker 1: to their breakup announcement, Watch what Happened? Live clips about
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  Speaker 1: like what's going on with Amanda and West, and then
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  Speaker 1: ultimately the Amanda and West confirmation, and then we fast
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  Speaker 1: forward to Kyle and Amanda post confirmation of the Amanda
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  Speaker 1: and West relationship. Right, basically Kyle checking in on Amanda. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and he's like, I care about you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm struggling with Amanda. I think we'll talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's kind of like I wanted to work
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  Speaker 1: so badly with you, which I don't believe. In the
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  Speaker 1: preview episode, we had said like they're going to say
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  Speaker 1: the divorce drama for in the City.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that feels accurate.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So I have a lot of thoughts here.
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  Speaker 1: I think that Bravo could not pretend that the fans
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  Speaker 1: didn't already know what happened between Amanda and West. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and that stuff, So the headlines were way too alloud.
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  Speaker 1: They had to insert all of that stuff. They couldn't
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  Speaker 1: just let the season roll out as previously planned because
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  Speaker 1: Amanda and West all that up. Yes, right, they had
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  Speaker 1: to pick up cameras and film this one off scene.
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  Speaker 2: They had to.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think it absolutely saved the premiere of it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, there's no way that I would have
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  Speaker 1: I would have watched the show otherwise if they just
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  Speaker 1: kept it as previously planned, but I would have been like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: looking for like all the little things to rip it
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  Speaker 1: all apart, do you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad they acknowledge, like, hey, we're going to rewind here,
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  Speaker 1: but we know you know what you know, Let's get
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  Speaker 1: it out there and then let's watch it all play
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  Speaker 1: out exactly basically exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Do I think we had talked about it in the
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  Speaker 1: preview episode? Do I think Amanda and Kyle purposely saved
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  Speaker 1: their breakup for.
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  Speaker 2: In the City. Maybe?
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I think I'm leaning towards like, yes, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: I could see, and I don't have any facts on this,
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  Speaker 1: but I could see being a couple that you've been
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  Speaker 1: together for ten years, you have built this franchise. You
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  Speaker 1: could have a conversation off camera and say, look, I
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  Speaker 1: know we are headed for separation, but we have this
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  Speaker 1: commitment that we have to do this show. This is
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  Speaker 1: our primary paycheck. Let's go into the summer let's do
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  Speaker 1: it and then we will revisit separation for in the city.
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  Speaker 2: Sadly, I think it was.
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  Speaker 1: Obvious watching Summer House this last season that Amanda was done. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's my question, because Amanda says I gave everything I had,
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  Speaker 1: but things gotten messy because I was so afraid of
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  Speaker 1: losing you as a friend. I don't buy it. That
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  Speaker 1: was not the Amanda I saw. I don't buy it,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't blame her for being done in a
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  Speaker 1: relationship that wasn't working for you. There is some question here.
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  Speaker 1: Kyle's like, can you be fully honest with yourself and
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  Speaker 1: tell me like nothing was happening with West before we
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  Speaker 1: had officially officially announced our split. So let's move into
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  Speaker 1: that scene. Yes, when Amanda comes to visit Kyle at
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  Speaker 1: the apartment, Yes, like you mentioned earlier, they start out
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  Speaker 1: in the kitchen. Kyle does seem concerned. He's like you
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  Speaker 1: look then, and then they go to sit down on
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  Speaker 1: the couch. They have a very amicable dynamic, it seems here.
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  Speaker 1: I don't blame him for being like, Yo, give me
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  Speaker 1: the timeline here, like, be honest with me.
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  Speaker 2: People are talking, man, be honest with me. I think
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  Speaker 2: you owe it to your spouse. Hear me out. I
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  Speaker 2: have two opinions.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, this from Kyle's perspective, I would be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: be honest with me, tell me what the timeline is,
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  Speaker 1: because I just need to know what I was working with.
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  Speaker 1: I was under the impression that we were going to
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  Speaker 1: work on getting back together, coming into the city, being
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  Speaker 1: in therapy, et cetera, et cetera. But now I have
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  Speaker 1: to wonder all this stuff with the West, even if
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  Speaker 1: you were having like an emotional affair, Like, tell me
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  Speaker 1: if that now Amanda is very defensive, very in this
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  Speaker 1: moment and shouts at him about the allegations that he cheated.
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  Speaker 2: During their marriage.
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  Speaker 1: Could I see that Kyle might be trying to save
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  Speaker 1: face here a little bit, like make him self feel
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  Speaker 1: less guilty if Kyle did have like a outside marriage things, yes,
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't make him feel like they're on level playing field.
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  Speaker 1: If she said, yeah, I was emotionally into West during
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  Speaker 1: this time, because Kyle has been painted as the villain
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  Speaker 1: in their relationship for a long time, A long time right. Honestly,
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  Speaker 1: up until the West and Amanda accusations came out, people
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  Speaker 1: were so team Amanda.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh, and I thought it.
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  Speaker 1: Was really interesting because as soon as he's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: were you having an emotional affair? And she's like, don't
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  Speaker 1: accuse me of being unfaithful and then turns it right around.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, there's a video of you making out O.
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  Speaker 1: Kyle goes, okay, what did you make of that reaction
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  Speaker 1: of his? Like did he seem guilty or did he
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  Speaker 1: just seem like.
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  Speaker 2: Are we doing this again? A little bit of both?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's why I think he was asking the questions
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  Speaker 1: so much. I really think he wanted a level play field. Well,
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  Speaker 1: and I do like that he says, you're not a
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  Speaker 1: bad person, but your behavior was reckless and thoughtless. I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad he said that because I do think that's accurate.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think he's referring to that her actions are
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  Speaker 1: reckless and thoughtless to Kyle or to her best friend Sierra?
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  Speaker 1: I think both. But I think the assuming she was
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  Speaker 1: not unfaithful and all of this happened after their marriage ended,
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  Speaker 1: or at least they were separated, I think the bigger
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  Speaker 1: crime is what.
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  Speaker 2: She did to Sierra. Yeah, I agree, I was a
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  Speaker 2: girls girl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if things were starting while she and Kyle
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  Speaker 1: were still in an unsure state of mind, then I
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  Speaker 1: think they could go either way. Yeah, I gotta tell you, though,
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  Speaker 1: those scenes don't feel performative to me.
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  Speaker 2: They both truly look very.
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  Speaker 1: Upset, emotionally upset. Kyle crying, Amanda crying, What did you
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  Speaker 1: think of I'm sad someone else gets the version of
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  Speaker 1: you that I fell in love with. Kyle still seems
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  Speaker 1: to genuinely care about Amanda. I mean, he says he
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  Speaker 1: does in this scene. He's like, I'm not trying to
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  Speaker 1: like say these things to rekindle things with you. I
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  Speaker 1: genuinely care about you as a person. And for me,
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  Speaker 1: that's very It's kind of hard for me to wrap
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  Speaker 1: my head around that as someone who's been married twenty
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  Speaker 1: five years this summer, if my spouse and I separated, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I do love and care for this person still, but
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  Speaker 1: there's got to be a little bit of resentment and
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  Speaker 1: animosity I think so too, to move that needle to
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  Speaker 1: a separation. So it's interesting to me that that Kyle
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  Speaker 1: is so generous with his caring.
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  Speaker 2: I think so too. I think I think that's I
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  Speaker 2: think that's true. I think that's true.
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  Speaker 1: So then part of me starts to starts to question like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: is this performative? Is Kyle really pissed under the skin here?
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  Speaker 1: But he's like, uh, I'm gonna look like the good guy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to come that to interesting quote winner in
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  Speaker 1: the situation, I think two things can be true. Though.
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  Speaker 1: I think he can be hurt and also still show
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  Speaker 1: up for Amanda. I have always gotten the impression that,
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  Speaker 1: whether or not Kyle's behavior suggests it, Kyle has always
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  Speaker 1: seemed very into Amanda. Now, if you throw back to
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  Speaker 1: Summer House season one, he didn't act like it. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a good boyfriend, and you've had plenty of times
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  Speaker 1: where he hasn't been a good partner. But I think
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  Speaker 1: he has always really cared about Amanda. There's something that
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  Speaker 1: draws these two together.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. I felt for Kyle when he cried too.
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  Speaker 2: I did too.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to be clear to the listeners here
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  Speaker 1: and to you, like, yes, while as we record this
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  Speaker 1: on May twenty, First, I am team Kyle in this
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  Speaker 1: scenario here. But Kyle is not without fault. No, We've
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  Speaker 1: seen him be an absolute asshole even this season, so
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  Speaker 1: and I think that has empowered Amanda the way that
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  Speaker 1: the internet kind of rose up behind Kyle and his
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  Speaker 1: behavior before she was taken down. I think she was
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  Speaker 1: very empowered by people saying, thank god she finally left him.
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  Speaker 1: Live your best life, Amanda. I think she lives like
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  Speaker 1: the person who's like the people love me. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think she thought the fan reaction would have been more
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  Speaker 1: positive about her and West?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I'm shocked that she didn't think through. I think if
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  Speaker 1: it was anyone outside of the Summerhouse universe, people would
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  Speaker 1: have been shipping them like, totally live your best life,
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  Speaker 1: get some Amanda, like whatever it takes. But people write
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  Speaker 1: hard for Sierra. Yes, and I just think she do.
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  Speaker 1: She overestimated her popularity. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Now
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  Speaker 1: we rewind to September twenty twenty five, and I think
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  Speaker 1: this was designed to be the genuine introduction of this
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  Speaker 1: episode because this show is Linday Hubbard's vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. I have that exact did you
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  Speaker 2: copy my notes? This is Lindsay's vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: And so we start in Lindsay's enormous, beautiful apartment.
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  Speaker 2: In the city. Must be paying the big books. She
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  Speaker 2: got all that Summerhouse money.
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  Speaker 1: Summer House money, I mean that murmurs beautiful and interestingly enough,
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  Speaker 1: we do get some on camera Gemma. Now, Jemma's not
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  Speaker 1: on camera in Summerhouse. Listen, Jemma is a Bravo legend already.
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  Speaker 1: Yes in my eyes, when they actually show baby Jemma.
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  Speaker 2: I went, oh, oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Now I went on to watch watch What Happens Live
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  Speaker 1: after this episode and Lindsay was on it and she
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  Speaker 1: and Andy talk about Jemma's appearance on the show. She said,
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  Speaker 1: she said her and Jemma's dad have an agreement that
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  Speaker 1: Jimma will not appear on social media, but the show
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  Speaker 1: is about her being a mom, and they had an
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  Speaker 1: agreement that Jemma can be on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Got it. So while she's not on Summer House. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe this agreement came into her post films.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's a fair compromise for her to say,
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  Speaker 1: Summerhouse is.
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  Speaker 2: Not my show.
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  Speaker 1: I am one of an ensemble and it's not about
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  Speaker 1: Summerhouse is not about my life as a mom. So
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  Speaker 1: it's perfectly reasonable for Gemma to not be in that show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, how am I going to make a show
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  Speaker 1: about me being a mom? In this new stage of
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  Speaker 1: life without showing my kid. Yeah, I get that. I
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  Speaker 1: get that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Lindsay lays it out on the line.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, I haven't had sex and nine months I
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  Speaker 1: used to shoot rainbows and butterflies out my vagina. And
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  Speaker 1: the editors respond with a.
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  Speaker 2: Gift top tier editing in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like a highlight reel of various Lindsay getting
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  Speaker 1: it on scenes with her various dudes over the years.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, thank god, we have ten years of Summerhouse content.
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  Speaker 1: People from right, we meet Liz and Nanny and Jemma's face.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, she was so excited. Oh she loves her.
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  Speaker 2: I loved it. I loved it. I'm telling you, Jemma
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  Speaker 2: is great. Jemma is great.
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  Speaker 1: When when Lindsay's like, this isn't my child, she makes
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  Speaker 1: the same like the split screen the mean mugs. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And then they would show Jema this one I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: about top tier editing. And then they would show Jemma
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  Speaker 1: like side eyeing her at different spots in the episode. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I freaking loved it. It was so funny.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's an icon. I loved it. What's your read
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  Speaker 2: on Lindsay as a mom? I think she's very involved.
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  Speaker 1: Me. I think she's very hands on. Even though Jemma
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  Speaker 1: was so excited to see the nanny, I think Lindsay's
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  Speaker 1: very hands on. Yeah. I don't think Jemma being excited
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  Speaker 1: to see the Nanny as a knock on Lindsay at all.
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  Speaker 1: I I have more people in your life who love
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  Speaker 1: you as a blessing, not at all. Lindsay Hubbard was
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  Speaker 1: made to be a mother. She has talked for ten years.
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  Speaker 1: That's all she wanted was a baby. So yeah, she
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  Speaker 1: wants to right the wrongs of her past.
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  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it as I love her.
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  Speaker 1: I say something that might be kind of controversial, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I think it works for Lindsay's life that she's co
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  Speaker 1: parenting with someone she's not in a relationship with. M
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  Speaker 1: because she has this life, especially on camera, and it
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  Speaker 1: allows her to be like, yeah, I'm gonna go to
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  Speaker 1: the bar. Now. That's not to say she couldn't get
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  Speaker 1: it babysitter, but it does seem to kind of work
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  Speaker 1: for her life, and it allowed for her to go
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  Speaker 1: to summerhouse for the weekend. Yeah, like Gema's with her dad.
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  Speaker 1: We meet a couple more people in this opening package,
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  Speaker 1: we meet Lindsay's two she calls them best friends. Everyone's
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  Speaker 1: a best friend, Yeah, Vonn and Georgina Yvonne Lindsay's longtime friend,
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  Speaker 1: and they're both really intent on telling this story about
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  Speaker 1: how after Lindsay's breakup with Gemma's dad, she went to
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  Speaker 1: her and Yvonne helped her manually express breast milk. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like they both have to tell the story there. These
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  Speaker 1: are writer die friendships. Oh yeah, honestly I thought would
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  Speaker 1: I do that for Mega? I think you and I
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  Speaker 1: are a way past our past those dage child birthing stage,
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  Speaker 1: but you know you can family went in a middle
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  Speaker 1: of a hot flat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: What are your first impressions of Yvonne and Georgina we
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  Speaker 1: talked about We didn't really talk about Georgiana yet, but
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  Speaker 1: Georgina she, like you said, she's a mom friend, successful,
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  Speaker 1: but hanging on by a thread is what I wrote down.
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  Speaker 2: Georgina is my favorite of the new character Me too,
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  Speaker 2: Me too. She's a dermatologist.
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  Speaker 1: She's got this kick ass business, but she admits like
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: she's kind of a hot mess. She talks about like
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: one of her kids eating dog food. She's like there's
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: protein in it, right, But she's also dropped heat gorgeous. Also,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: she's single, her baby daddy left while she was pregnant
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: with the second baby. She's got a lot going on. Yeah,
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and she's interesting to me. She's my new she's my
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: new favorite. She's my new favorite. No, what about Yvonne.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I'm on the fence about Yvonne.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: I like Yvonne. This is what I'm worried about. Though.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: This is the all season long. We're gonna watch the
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: I want kids slash. He's hesitant storyline. This is classic
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Bravo storytelling. We've seen it on Housewives, We've seen it
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: on The Valley. Yeah, I'm okay with Yvonne as a person,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: but like I, I don't think I'm gonna love her storyline.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: And you know, a little bit later, she tells this
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: story about like I left and he didn't even notice,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and I was like, what are we doing?
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I'm doing.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: And also we got married and I just assumed we
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: had had kids. You were adults when you got that.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: You never had that conversation. Yeah, I don't love that.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I just thought, oh, I'm not brutin for this relationship
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: at this very moment, I gotta tell you, Okay, Amanda
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: and Lindsay go grocery shopping. This is where we learned
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Amanda came home from the summer house and checked into
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a hotel. She and Kyle are and couples counseling. They
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: hate each other like counsels, like you guys hate each other.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: And then in a complete non sequitor, am Manda goes, oh,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: some fruit, and Amanda, this is just another one of
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: those like, yeah, you're retelling the story of your failing marriage,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: but U dgaf Yeah. Amanda says that Kyle told her
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: she should move out. Then they cut to like a
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: scene of Amanda and Kyle fighting in the park and
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: he's like, I can't be around you like this, right,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: Which is interesting. I bet the greatest takeaway from this
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: scene to me obviously one I feels like it's very
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: producer guided to me, like they I don't catch us
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: up on what's going on with you and Kyle. Yes,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: But what I was really impressed with is that Lindsay
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: says to Amanda, it might be too late for you guys.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: You haven't been partners for a long time, yes, And
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh, that's interesting because later on we have
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: a scene between Kyle and Lindsay and she says the
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: same thing to him basically, and I thought, Oh, that's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: kind of a good friend who's telling both these people
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: separately the same thing. Yeah, like she's not playing one
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: side or the other. Now she's known Kyle a lot longer,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: and considering in current day, we know Lindsay's team Kyle.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I I thought she's being a really good friend to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Amanda in this scene, Like, I think, so very honest,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: saying some things that I don't know if I would
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: even say to you. You know, you and I have
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: been friends that long time, but I don't know if
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: I would be like especially about it like a relationship,
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: like oh, I don't think it's going well for you, but.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: It's not my place.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: We have such good we're such good friends. I just
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: don't know if I could bring myself to like say
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: something so honest that might.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Be hurtful anyway. M hmmm.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Well, we're going to meet some new faces now, some
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: new couples. Yeah, we start with Andrea and Lexi. These
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: are new faces to you.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Yes, these are new faces to me, and they haven't
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: been in the.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Current summer House like Circles, although they did come in
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: at that last party in Summer House. They're like, oh
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: my Huad's like, who have the people on? Like, oh,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: they're on in the city, so we gotta yeah, you
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: gotta meet them, sprinkle them in. We just kind of
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: learned the basics. Andrea and Lexi got married at a
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: castle in Italy and twenty four they're still very much in.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Like the Can I give you some backstory?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you know that Andrea and Page war thing?
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: They showed a brief flash of it in this Yeah,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: this was pre Craig, and it was at the time
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: it was kind of a little bit of a triangle.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: She was torn between Andrea and Craig. Got it. How
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: did Page meet Craig? Winterhouse? Got It? These are shows
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: you need to watch, Yes, And then eventually Andrea was like,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: I'm in love with Lexi. We used to date. She's
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: the love of my life.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I'm going to get back with her, and they do
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: and they get married. Now I have I think I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: might have said on the preview that I was concerned
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: about Lexi being on the show, and I stand firm
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: in that opinion. Lexi is beautiful and sweet, and seems lovely,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: but reality TV requires chaos delusion. I don't think she's
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: made for reality TV. Yeah, we fairytale wedding is not
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: all that interesting. Like I wanted to get me married
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: to Dneyland Castle and I got married out of real castle.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: That's a lovely story, but yeah, is it? Is it
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: driving the narrative? No? The reason Lindsay Hubbard is so
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: successful on reality TV is because she she moves the needles.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: She knows how to forward the story. I don't see
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Lexi doing that. You don't see a tagline coming out
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: of Lexi this season. Now it's gonna go on a
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: C shirt. She could surprise me, but I don't see it.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: We also meet up with Danielle and Owen. Now can
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I ask you, are you have you reached a Summerhouse
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: season where Danielle was on it yet?
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Well, Danielle was on last season of the Summer Oh
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: that's right.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you don't know the whole like you have
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the whole trajectory.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: Okay, Danielle.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: After last season, I was not Danielle's biggest fan, let's
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: saycause Danielle came for Sierra and I'm like not interested
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: in that. Okay, let's talk Danielle and Owen. We just
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: get the basics of their relationship. They have a nine
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: year history. I'm putting this some quotation marks somewhere in there. Oh,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and got married. Yeah, I think she kind of left
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: that out right. Yeah, they don't talk about it. They're like, yeah,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: we went our separate ways and then we reconnected six
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: months ago. We've been dating, we've been living together for
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: a month. And I'm like, this is a really quick
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: timeline because she's like, I want to get married, I
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: want to have babies, I need a ring like you guys.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: It feels quick to me. It feels quick to me.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: But then again, I was engaged in six months and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: married six months later. So what do I know? For context?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: In present day, Danielle has announced to pregnancy. She is
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: actively pregnant with this omen Yeah, yes, mass child. Yes,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: So that story does have somewhere to go. We do
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: learn a little bit later own still married, separated like
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: in the process, not like he's having an active affair
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: on TV.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, did you imagine? Oh my god. We also learned
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: that Lindsay doesn't even know about Owen.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And Danielle's take is that Lindsay has ghosted her or
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to come okay.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I have a couple thoughts. First of all, I enjoy
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Danielle on reality TV.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm glad she's on this show. She's very much cut
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: from the same fabric. She knows how to move the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: story along. She's chaotic. U. I enjoy that again, a
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: nod to top tier editing putting founder slash influencer under
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Danielle's name is a deep cut summer house reference. I'm
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a founder. I thought that was so freaking funny. I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: love how we're going to talk. We will eventually talk
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: about Danielle and Lindsay and like sort of the same
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: sort of unfolding of relationships and getting pregnant.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: They are very similar. Good point, So.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Interested to talk about that. But also I thought Owen's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: discomfort whenever Danielle was like, I'm on a timeline. I'm
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: on a timeline, I'm on the Lindsay Hubbard timeline, he
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: looked uncomfortable.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: He did.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Could have been editing, but he did look uncomfortable.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, especially because he's like, I'm still married, can't get pregnant.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: I'm still married. I'm saying that out loud. I know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: I know nobody's saying that out loud. Let's meet Kenny.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: This is also the first time we've seen Kyle in
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: this official episode. Kyle and Kenny are having lunch because
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Kenny is an investor, and Kenny drops the bomb, I
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: haven't seen a financial update in a year, and Kyle's like, yeah,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: things are not great. First of all, I actually find
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: the back end stuff of lover Boy business talk very interesting. Well,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: he lays it all out. He's like, I'm on the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: brink of financial disaster. I've laid off employees, I've put
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: in my own money. I need a partner or I
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: need to sell it. Yeah the end.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of loved it actually, and you know
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: who else. I kind of loved Kenny. Oh, I love Kenny.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: I did not think from the preview. I was like,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: I don't like Kenny.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Kenny the dude, not Kenny the partner. I don't like
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Kenny the romantic partner. I got issues. Okay, I got issues.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: We will talk about that. But I like Kenny here.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: He seems like a real straightforward businessman, kind of seems
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: like a good friend to Kyle. I think he's very interesting.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Do think he's enough boy. But I like Kenny.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I found him very interesting.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw his conversations with Kyle were super mature
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: in terms of the lover boy conversation, and then I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: thought it was a nice natural segue to the conversation
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: about Amanda. And he was honest, like lindsay, like, yeah,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: like optics show that like things are not great.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Thought he threw a.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Little shade though, He's like, uh, she's kind of like
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: not fun, She's not on your energy. And he's like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: you know, I got Whitney. She's a good time all
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: And I was like, first of all, yeah, don't make comparisons.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: That doesn't help you. Guys are new.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: There's a difference in the energy and a brand new
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: relationship in a ten year relationship. But also I do
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: have a little bit of an issue with Kenny putting
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: his relationship up as like the model relationship, because I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: don't think that it is. And we'll get into it.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: But Whitney from the Midwest, she was on The Bachelor,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: she has moved out here to be with him. Talk
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: a little bit more about that in a minute. But
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm intrigued by Kenny. I would say maybe
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: He's my second favorite of the new the New Folk,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Kay says, I think in a confessional, my biggest fear
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: is hurting her or not working out. And I got
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to tell you the red flags on that play. My
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: biggest fear is hurting her. Is the classic like anti
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: commitment dude comment like I just don't want to hurt you.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you. Did I hear that in college?
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I absolutely did. I don't want to hurt you. That
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: sounds like smooth. It's not like I don't want to
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: hurt you therefore we can't be together.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: No, I don't want to hurt you, putting it out
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: there like I'm not really a commitment kind of guy. Yeah, like,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: let's make out. Let I put it out there that
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hurt you. Can't come back and
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: get mad at me when that happens. Gotcha, got rights.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: That's my vibe that I get there.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Gotcha? We got our first group hang at the Garrett.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: Is this funny that like you have to access it
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: through the five guys. I love it.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Speak easy you and I have been to New York.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Seeing all these shots of New York, I was.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm dying to go. I want to go. I
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: want to go hang out in a bar and have
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: these New Yorky fall vibes so badly.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Here's one of the things I like about this show
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: is that every time they do a new scene, they
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: tell us what they're like, Chelsea.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: What central borrow they're in, or maybe yeah, it's cool.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I love it.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I love it. A lot going on here Kyle and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Amanda on their way to the party. I guess we're
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: supposed to assume they've just left therapy, they're not doing good,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: and he's like being critical and she's like, I'm slating.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: He's like, well, you're wearing a raincoat. She's like, it's
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: not a raincoat. And I just thought, that's not the
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: hill to die on here, Amanda. And then of course
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the edit cuts to like she's in jeans and long
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: in the summer in New York. Yeah, and September humid. Anyway,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: I loved it, and Amanda's like, I don't know what
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: you want. And then she's like, I'm gonna go PM.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I can't pretend to be happy in front of our friends,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: which just furthers the narrative. They're like, Amanda never goes
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: hang sat with Kyle. Amanda's not fun. Yeah, the city
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: should be fun. Can you imagine being the husband who
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: always shows up to the event and being like, oh, yeah,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: she's not here. She or I not always have to
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: make an excuse for yourself, Like, yeah, two.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Big things I want to talk about. Tell me what
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: you want to talk about first? Okay, Kenny and Whitney,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: h or Lindsay and Danielle. Let's talk Kenny and Whitney. Okay.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I really liked the vibe of this friend group, like
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: when Kenny and Lindsay and they're all they're I liked
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: their vibe. I like their banter. I thought it was fun.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: But Lindsay's like, excuse me, she moved across the country
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to be with you without a ring. Okay. I have
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: two immediate thoughts. First of all, the preview made this
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: scene look like it was confrontational, and I thought it
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: played out as they were playful. They were poking at him.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: He's like, it's giving I hate men vibes. She's like,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I don't trust men, you know. But here's what irked me,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: because they're talking about the trajectory of their relationship and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: he was like, we've been dating for a year. But
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: then he like kind of turns around. She's like, so
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: you've been together for a year, and he kind of
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: like turns around to look where she is.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't see that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: And then he's like, wow, like I had some other
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: stuff going on, like my mom was dying.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, whenever, I'm a hard time here.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, the f boys stage one of the
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: stages of grief. Love it. And then he's like, so
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: we've been officially together for six months. It seems like
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: maybe she doesn't know what he was, Like he turns
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: around to check.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Her notion, and she doesn't know that he was messing
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: having fun styll with other women. I just thought it
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: was interesting.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Look, I don't think it's so far fetch that a
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: woman in her thirties would move to New York for
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a guy. I don't think people are old enough to go, Okay,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: this isn't going to work out, then I can pivot.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: It's not a twenty two year old dropping their entire
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: life to move to somebody somewhere for somebody.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I agree with you.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's that crazy, and I do think
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I think there's some value in like it's fine if
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: they're not engaged. They've never lived in the same place together, Like,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: you should live in the same city to see if
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you are compatible.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I don't fully know how all.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: In I am on Kenny's commitment to this relationship and Chip,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I'm bringing some twenty year old Meghan Baggage.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: She's okay, all right, okay. Lindsay and Danielle. Danielle shows
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: up and Lindsay like runs from hers.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: She's not one. They are on two different wavelengths. Danielle's
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: like Lindsay ghosted me, and Lindsay's like, I hate Danielle.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Lindsay pulls up for the producers. It's giving.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Here's an itemized list of thirty years of Grievance's Sweet
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Jesus timelines receipts.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Whatever it is from. Yeah, they showed the screenshot of it.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: It was fan. Lindsay knows how to make good TV.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love great period. She did Carl
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: a hand job in the back of it uber.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: And my favorite is when she's relaying this to Kyle.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Kyle's like, angels aren't one great. She's like, oh come on,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: She's like, He's like, I pay good money for a
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: hand job. But the thing I didn't like is like
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: he's like I was like, the lecherous laugh gave me
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the creeps. I did think it was funny, though, I
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: did think it was funny. I the Lindsay Danielle situation
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: is interesting because if I was Lindsay, I'd be like,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Danielle is trying to take a page out of my
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: playbook here with the whole timeline of it all and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: wanting to get pregnant and having a baby and all
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: this stuff and moving at rapid speed. Because Danielle was
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: so critical of Lindsay and Carl moving at rapid speed,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: so then critical of Lindsay being like, you're not living
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: with the father of your baby exactly. So if I'm Lindsay,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I could I see where she's coming from. I'd be like,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I'm tired of you. What I missed, though, is Lindsay
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: and Danielle that duo, the ones that had so much
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: fun on Summer House. So do I hope that they
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: can get to that place again?
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I kind of.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Do you know Danielle thinking about it now, like, is
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: there a part of you that thinks like Danielle maybe
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: wants to ingratiate herself with Lindsay because she'd knows this
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: is Lindsay's show, and if she and Lindsay you aren'
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: name good. Danielle's not going to whether or not she's
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: on the cash, She's not going to be in it
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: like scenes with Lindsay and.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: They make show. I think so a rose. I know
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: you don't know what that means. I don't. I mean,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: I know what it means, but I don't know the relevance.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: The listeners know what it means. Okay, I'm gonna have
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: to look it up.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: It just means that like they were, they they were
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: so close, like they had their nicknames or a roast
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: comboyo and they wore necklaces that said it like that's adorable.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Quite nice accent you did right there, thank you. It
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: was very awkward when Danielle's like, hey, can we get
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: coffee or a lunch.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: And Lindsay was like, hmm, can't I think about it?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: About it? Awkward?
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: It was as awkward as Carl's mom talking to Lindsay
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: at the Softbar launch, Like so awkward.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: But you know, maybe Lindsay shoul try some boundaries here, right, Yeah, And.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Like Carl's mom was not nice to Lindsay, so Lindsay
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: doesn't really owe her warmth. Oh but that made me
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: so uncomfortable, so uncomfortable. Ohne also made me uncomfortable.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Me too, Me too.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Hey, let's take a good break and come right back
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: and talk more. In the City Shenanigans, we have a
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: girl's night out. Yeah, but this is the scene that
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: made me fall in love with Georgina.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Tell me more.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yvonne and Linday show up with Georgina's office and they're like,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: we're going out, do you have anything to change into?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Like it's obviously staged. She's like, look at my closet, which,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: of course in her office. She's got stuff to go out,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: and she pulls out the cutest floaty black dress I've
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: ever seen a look.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: When she comes out, I was like, hot, damn.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I felt like she's got like Jeane's gonna going out
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: top up there, like she's ready to go.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: The woman is stunning. I agree. Amanda meets up with them.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: This is when we learn some things. Let me stop
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: you there.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Before Amanda even gets to the bar, Lindsay's spilling the
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: tea to Yvonne and Georgina here that she has learned
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: that Kyle has demanded back pay rent from Amanda for
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: three years. She's a tune of one hundred and seventeen
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars dollar in the screen wows, and she's like,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I paid it.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: And I was like, first of all, why were you
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: not paying rent? Yeah?
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: What? They drop tidbits like this, and I'm like, what
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: is the financial situation here? Like if you had all
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: that money, why didn't you invest in softbar for Carl,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Like if you had one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you could have given him ten k totally. Why weren't
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you paying rent? When Kyle is clearly struggling.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: When he's not taking an income from lover Boy and he.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Had to DJ to make ends me, Yeah, you know,
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I think there's it's not obviously it's not black and
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: white with these two. You know, Okay, maybe Kyle had
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: to take a second job to make ends meet. He
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: probably doesn't have to go out until five o'clock in
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the morning, A right loved Lindsay spilling the tea. But
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: then Amanda shows up. First of all, she's got bangs.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh you know banks, I thought about you. Actually,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: she's like, these damn banks, I only thought about you.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: And then she's like, I do not want to talk
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: about myself. Let's talk about some other people. And she
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: goes in on Danielle.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Yes he is married, and then Lindsay freaks out. She
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: loves it, likes it.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that Lindsay is is she's either unaware
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: of this information or this is like the greatest acting
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: reaction I've ever seen.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: She was like, you have to stop. I can't believe
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: She's got some great facial reactions. There's one.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I think it's in the next episode. It's always like
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: the screenshot for this, Yes, like mouth the greatest of
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: the thing. Yeah, this is also when we learned like
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Nick's not ready to be a dad. Evonne flew to
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: San Diego.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: For a few days. He did not notice she was gone.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Of course, they edit in Nick in the house being like,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: where's mommy? Obviously that that's obviously not when that happened.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: But I was like, would you freak the f out
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: if your husband didn't realize you were.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Gone for days?
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it would make me reevaluate our entire marriage. You're
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: also telling me I.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: Just don't have each other on fine, we absolutely do.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, Yvonne doesn't come on, come on, okay,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Kyle and man is anniversary dinner.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: So physically uncomfortable watching this scene.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, of course we're going
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: to celebrate, and I'm like, really, I mean there have
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: been years where I'm like not happy with my husband,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: but we still go through the motions of like celebrating.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I just thought you thought it was weird.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was a little weird. Especially they're
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: like so in the thick of it, they're like happy anniversary,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and I was like, what is this sham? And then
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: a man is like I'm moving.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Out, dude.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: For her to drop that bomb at dinner, I honestly
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: felt so bad for Kyle because it seemed to me
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: like he's like we're in a good place, like yes,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, I'm gonna move out. And first
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: of all, I can't help but think, baby, you wouldn't
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: have gotten there if Sierra didn't say to you one
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: month earlier, maybe you guys should take some space, right.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I don't think she would have done it on her own.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Sierra pushed her, Yeah, but there's also a place.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: In time for these things. This either don't go to
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: the dinner, but don't don't do it like this. It
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: was in poor taste. Agree, and I thought Kyle took
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: it like a champ. Oh my gosh, oh my.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Gosh, and everything that comes out of her mouth is
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: just bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: I want a date. I'm doing it for the relationship,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: not to end it like.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Let's she doesn't like. They go to therapy, they come home.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Kyle's able to transition into real life mode. He's got
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: to get work done, they got to take care of
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: the dogs.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: She can't.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: She's still stuck in all the resentment from therapy. She
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: can't separate that. She doesn't know how to do that.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: And I get that. I understand the reason for a separation.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I don't think she's wrong to want that. I think
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: they need it to figure out.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: I even miss this guy.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the timing sucked.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: And Kyle says, I don't.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of anybody separating to help the relationship.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I think there are times when a separation can be
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: for the good of the relationship. Take some space, think
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: about your life, what you need, what you want, but
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I don't buy what Amanda is selling. I want our
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: relationship to work. I want us to figure out who
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: we are. I don't buy it.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I think Amanda wants out and this is phase one.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I need to know.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I need a freaking timeline. Their anniversary is September twenty fifth, Okay,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: so this is very okay. Someone else ends like Labor
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Day weekend, So we're talking like three weeks.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: After they've been home. Yeah, it seems like that. It
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: seems like that now.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I wish here's the timeline. What I needed to know,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: like when things started like really happening with west Right
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: because Kyle in their kitchen, see he mentioned something about Thanksgiving.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: He's like, were you having an emotion like a round Thanksgiving?
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And she, of course gets defensive and she pushes them off. Yeah,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: if they were taking space after September twenty fifth, that's
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: a real fast timeline that she had because he's wondering
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: if Thanksgiving was when something happened with her and west Right.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: That's a real fast.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Unless you believe the narrative that people are looking at
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: all the clues on Summer House that something was happening.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I do believe that narrative? Interesting, you don't. I have
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent on the fence. I could believe it.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: I could believe it.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: To add ansel to injury. These dudes next to them
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: are like, hybri universary, bro. And he's like, yeah, it's
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: been smooth sailing. And then Kyle is poor Kyle. He's like,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: don't worry. This is this We're going to dinner out.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: This is just appetizers, Like, I want.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: To do it right? Did you notice that I did?
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I thought it was nice.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: They ordered is cargo and like caviars fine and had
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: nice fancy cocktails like that would have been enough for
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: me to be quite.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, if my husband ordered dinner at the house,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: it would have been enough for me. But likely, Yeah,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: that was plenty, Yes, plenty. I wasn't like, oh, he's
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: phoned it in because they're just having drinks.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: No, I'm like why and why does he have to
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: explain it to these rando guys who are like, what's
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: this camera doing here? I know they didn't say that,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: but I'm sure that was what was happening, And.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: They're like, like a toad, it's been smooth, and I
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: was like, Okay, that was weird.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: That was weird. Yeah, I thought this whole scene was
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: brutal but also incredible television. Absolutely, I'm trying to understand
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Kyle and I and I feel like I'm giving him
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of credit here because I feel that past
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Kyle would have spun out, freaked out at this, and
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: he just took it like I'm trying to be a
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: good partner and be supportive and I'm a little bit
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Do I one hundred percent believe his reactions here? I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: that's a good question. Before do you think he's really
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: trying to hold onto her? So he's like really raining it.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: In so he doesn't even get emotional.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: And what kind of pissed me off is he's trying
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: to understand the boundaries because he was he was like,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: if we do this, and she's like not if. I'm like,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: let him finish. He's not saying if I give you permission,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: He's saying what does this look like for us? And
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: she never gives him a chance to ask that question.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: She just like, it's fine, Amanda, you do have the
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: right to do this. You don't need his permission, but
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: let him finish the question, which is What does that
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: look like? Are we calling each other every night to
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: say good night? Are we planning a weekly what does
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: that look like? Why are we dating other people? I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: feel like he was trying to understand the parameters as
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: she understood them. I found it suspicious that he didn't
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: have any reaction, particularly given we saw that scene in
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: April where he's emotional.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So do you think this was a this is
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: it staged? Yeah? Do you like, is he able to
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: be that cool that I'd be like, it's all smooth sailing.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: My wife just told me she's moving out. Yeah.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they filmed this and what do they
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: call a pickup scene? I wonder if this is a
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: pickup scene that they did and then they put it
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: in there. Oh, and so therefore he's kind of disconnected,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Like he appears to be like totally cool with the situation,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: but it was filmed at a later time. This is
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: not actually their anniversary here. That's a good question. I
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't reading it as it's a pickup scene. I was
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: reading it more that it's just staged, that they're telling
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: the story of their breakup and they need to get
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: it on camera.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Not too I have a question for you.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Sure, given that we know that we are going to
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: see the dissolution of Kyle and Amanda's relationship, and given
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: what we know about reality shows where people no longer
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: like each other, like the Real House as a Beverly Hills,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and how they become unwatchable. If this show gets a
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: season two, it seems obvious that if one of them
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: doesn't come back, the person who doesn't come back as Amanda,
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: I think so. I don't think Amanda's coming back on Summerhouse.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I think Amanda and West are done. I think so too,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: because I don't see a world in which Cierra so's
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going back to Summerhouse with Amanda and West there,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: and they're never going to let go of Sierra.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think they're gonna let go of
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Kyle either. Kyle is Summerhouse. I think so too.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Honestly, it's fine, right, it is fine. Like I think
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: West is funny. I'm not team West at all. I
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: think he's funny. I think he brings some like humor
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: to Summerhouse, especially him and Jesse. Sure, but I'm okay
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: with those two being gone. Me too, Jesse, Kyle and
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Sierra Bailey, Carl occasionally lindsay, mm.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Hmmm, I have a question. Okay, do you think Carl
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: and Sierra should be on this show? Yes? I think
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: so too. And I had some thoughts because I am
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: watching The Valley. You don't watch do you watch The Valley?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, so up until last season, we're in season three
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: of The Valley. They this season they have brought in
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Tom Schwartz and La La from vander Pump Got It.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: They are regulars on the show. Now. It makes me
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: believe that, oh, there is a future for in the
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: City where Carl and or Sierra is brought into the show.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: If Bravo spart they're going to bring Sierra in. They're
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: going to pay her top dollar and bring her in
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the show because the fans are so ride or die
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: for her right now?
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Don't you think so and she should do it?
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: They are missing I kind of would like to see
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: like a soft bar situation, like I want to see
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: some more about Softwar two. But I know a lot
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: of people don't like Carl. I love Carl, so who
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't like Carl. I have a couple other little moments
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: or things to bring up. We kind of talked about
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: it before, But I just thought the episode structure and
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: the pacing was really good, considering they probably had to
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: restructure the entire episode.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: It's a nice overview of this cast.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they did a really good job in
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: like forty five minutes or whatever. I also feel that
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Lindsay has fully evolved. In fact, at one point I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: was looking to see if her name as a producer
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: on the show, because I feel like she is operating
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: in this sort of producer role.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Is she credited? I don't think so.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: The woman understands story architecture, and I think this is
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: her show, and I fully believe this would have one
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: hundred percent have been her show with her friends if
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: the whole West Amanda Sierra Kyle thing didn't implode.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: You don't think Kyle and Amanda would have been on it.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: I do think they would have been on it, But
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: Lindsay would have been on Carn.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: Georgina and Vonn and all these other couples. It would
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: have been like Lindsay at the Peak of the Pyramids.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. They're not credited as producers on IMDb. They
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: should be.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Finally, we talked about the comparisons to the Valley I do,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and my comments in our preview episode, I was like,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to watch these people in the early thirties, like, yeah,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: try to adult. I think we're beyond adulting for the
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: most part. For example, the Yvonne Nick's storyline of should
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: we have kids or shouldn't we have kids, I'm not
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: interested in, mostly because I'm pastassage in my life. What
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: I am interested in is I'm interested in the relationships.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not interested in the romantic relationship same I'm interested
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: in the relationships these people all have with each other
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: as friends.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: And it's the same way for Summer House too.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Write like, yes, at Summerhouse a like party, and here
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: they're like functioning like adults and nobody lindsay yes. But
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like that's most evident in Kyle's behavior, because
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: you know, my number one complaint about Kyle in Summerhouse
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: is that he's always drunk. Oh, he was not giving
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: drunk buffoon Kyle at any point in this when him
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: and Kenny went out to dinner and like, I think
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: they had a cocktailer where Oh, it was funny that
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Kenny was like, yeah, Kyle's kind of a lush thought
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: that was funny too, but Kyle seemed very level headed.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: I wonder if he just keeps it real straight during
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the week and then let's loose maybe on the weekends.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: Are in the summertime.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know, or maybe it's an intentional choice and
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: he's like, I got to be grown up in this show.
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: Totally.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Finally, before we or totally wrap it up, I just
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: want to say that I'm fully in on this show.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Me too.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: It is more than I expected.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Uh huh, I agree. I thought it was a really
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: good episode. I'm in too, and give me more, baby, Jimma.
• 48:25
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• 48:27
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• 48:32
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• 48:43
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