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- Mark Hayes (00:01.55) All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another edition of Two Men in Black and White, an Honest Conversation. We are just a couple of yahoos with computers that try to look through the world in a black and white lens. Of course, my lens is brown. Brock's is a little bit lighter. It's got a little bit less melanin in his complexion than I do. But welcome to Two Men in Black and White. Brock, let's get right into it. We've got to fight just about everywhere. First of all, can we, I, I apologize. I know I'm going to veer off track from our pre-production meeting, but I want to talk about Hope Walls, breaking the fire. I just love it. I hadn't seen this clip until you brought it to my attention in the meeting today. And this is the way we got to talk to Donald Trump and his loony tunes. Exactly the way Hope Walls responded to the nasty and disgusting names. that they are calling her brother and father. Brock Ganeles (01:05.282) Yeah, was 80 seconds of fire and it's like fantastic. This is the way that we need to address MAGA, not with protocols and pleasantries because that doesn't resonate with them. Like this needs to be a blunt force instrument coming back at them on every topic. And I think the memo has finally gotten around. Mark Hayes (01:08.11) you Brock Ganeles (01:33.74) because the young people don't aren't wimps about it, right? They're, they're just, they're going to fight harder, right? So Hope Walls is just like today's star of the day. But if you went down the list, Ilhan Omar had a, you know, a great comeback to Stephen Miller, basically calling him a Nazi, which is that's flat out what he's doing, right? He's a Jewish Nazi in America. So Mark Hayes (01:40.078) night. Mark Hayes (01:50.734) Yep. Mark Hayes (01:58.572) Me? Yes! Brock Ganeles (02:01.664) She called it as she saw it. Don Lemon went out and ripped Trump a new asshole for his comments on the Somalis. Right. And it's just like this, this is the way we need to engage and it has to be with energy. But no one better than Hope Walls this morning. You know, kind of defending her family, but really talking for, for everybody. Mark Hayes (02:02.412) amazing Mark Hayes (02:08.91) Yeah. Mark Hayes (02:15.331) Yes. Mark Hayes (02:20.48) Absolutely. Mark Hayes (02:25.312) Yeah, you know Brock, it's interesting too because you know here in Georgia, very well, we're purple now, but there are some really red segments of the state. And when you look at the news coverage here, you can tell it's got a clear, clear leaning toward the red contingent of the population here in metro Atlanta. I remember when I was working for the Fox affiliate, you know, our quote unquote viewer was outside the perimeter. It was a white woman with, you know, some education, you know, the high school education, some college, 2.1 kids, blah, blah, blah. But that was a white woman that we were talking to in the suburbs. And so our coverage... you know, locally still seems to be aimed at that person because we cover crime, lots of crime. And then when we cover politics, we always cover it nicely, right? And we talk to these people like the Andrew Clydes of the world, as if you're dealing with some sort of normal politician and you're not. That's see now Don Lemon wouldn't have been able to go on CNN and do what he did, right? And that's the blessing of YouTube. Right? That's the bonus of YouTube is we can say what we actually need to say about these people because they started it. Right? Hey, remember Donald Trump came out here and called NFL players sons of bitches after the whole Colin Kaepernick thing. Get those sons of bitches off the field. You know, he started it when he was, you know, running in 16. We're not going to treat these people nice. Remember the African-American woman walking up the steps who got punched in the face by some 90-year-old decrepit lunatic? I mean, this is what MAGA responds to and understands. So you've got to speak their language to them. Brock Ganeles (04:40.384) It's a white supremacy movement, right? So it's looking to entirely reshape American society and advantage some and disadvantage others. The extremes in the movement don't even want democracy anymore. They're all about autocracy. Someone came on our message board and said, Hey Brock, go read some Peter Thiel and this guy, Yarvin, which I did. And it's like, these are like the real, you know, fucking Mark Hayes (04:42.89) Exactly. Mark Hayes (05:04.397) Good. Brock Ganeles (05:07.63) Doctrine errors behind the project 2025 like shit. They want to revamp the entire American society like this. They are fighting a race war So when you're in a war, it's not about pleasantries, right? It's about energy and stamina and how hard you're willing to fight and it's I'm just you know granted it's December, right? So it's taking us all year to get here Mark Hayes (05:17.773) Right. Brock Ganeles (05:37.378) But once again, it's come from the bottom up. It's not come from the top down and the leadership on the the the Dem side still has to change because they ain't coming from Chuck Schumer or even Jeffries. Right. It's coming from younger people. Many of those outside the system that are bringing the real energy to the to the resistance movement. And the change has to happen. It has to happen fast. Either people some leaders need to either step aside or they have to totally revamp. Mark Hayes (05:57.677) Right. Brock Ganeles (06:06.306) They're tactics. Mark Hayes (06:07.962) Absolutely. Because, and look, I get it. You've been used to operating within the bounds of institutional norms, let's call them. We're not operating there anymore. January 6th changed all that. Right? When people died trying to sack the Capitol, everything changed. And our politicians should have turned up the volume at that point. Of course, then You know, we got an inactive Merrick Garland who was not up for the moment. Joe Biden was not up to pressuring Garland to get up to the moment. And so we're stuck with this same brand of lunacy, the same racism, the same policies, only this time he's got people willing to carry this crap out. And that's the frightening part. Brock Ganeles (07:06.072) What norms are we playing to? We're bombing boats in the Caribbean, right? There's gerrymandering mid-decade just to try to maintain some semblance of control in Congress. There's massive voter roll, scrubbing of voter rolls to get black and brown people off the voter rolls. I mean, where, we have masked agents running around the country knocking on people's doors. Mark Hayes (07:07.787) Exactly! Brock Ganeles (07:35.246) and tackling them in the streets and throwing them in the back of vans, we have fucking 6,500 detainees currently in ICE facilities across the country. I mean, it's fucking out of control. So what norms are we playing to? We have a Supreme Court that's rubber stamping shit that's so out of bounds to what sort of rule of law and how society has functioned in America for like a century. Mark Hayes (07:38.925) Right? Mark Hayes (07:46.176) Right. Right. Brock Ganeles (08:04.886) and they're just peeling us back to, you know, to an earlier age in America, less enlightened age in America. So there's no norm to play to like, this just has to be defeated. Like this is a fight that has to be won. Mark Hayes (08:17.314) Yeah. And, and, know, it's, it's pretty sad that it took us a year to get to this point where we've got enough gumption to get up and say, yo, you people are fucking nuts. Like we watch four years of it, right? Like the damage that's been done just in the past year, Brock, how long will it take to correct? We got to totally revamp the department of education. They've torn that thing down. And I swear they've torn it down so they can privatize it. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (08:49.164) Yeah, of course, vouchers and all that shit, private schools. It's all racism is totally behind it. We have to we'll have to rebuild the Department of Justice. We'll have to rebuild trust in the populace that rulings are going to be fair. We're going to have to roll back all this fucking climate change disaster that, you know, back we're back to an oil economy. Right. And we've like pulled the plug on all the green energy initiatives that have gone on. We're going to have to rebuild that. Mark Hayes (08:57.869) Yes. Mark Hayes (09:02.029) Yep. Mark Hayes (09:12.109) Right. Brock Ganeles (09:18.21) that entire industry as it goes backwards in the Trump era. mean, there's so much work to be done. This can take decades. Mark Hayes (09:24.918) Right, right. And that's the sad part, Right, right. And here's the thing. So many lives are going to be impacted, not for now, but for a generation or two to come. Because think about how Brock Ganeles (09:28.268) That's if we started today, but it's going to get worse. Mark Hayes (09:52.867) Black America fought its way out of institutional racism. It was through education, right? And now we have these Project 2025 Heritage Foundation jobs trying to take away, right, the educational institutions that provided opportunity for Black America. And I'm talking about the HBCUs. We already know that the only reason that black athletes are accepted in the Southeast Conference is because they can help bring in so much money. Brock, when you look at the Southeast Conference, right, and look at the schools and what people had to do to, know, Bear Bryant didn't want a black athlete until he got roasted by one, until USC came to Alabama and eat the breaks off of Alabama with Sam Bam Cunningham. Okay, that's our lifetime, bro. Brock Ganeles (10:27.66) as they can play. So much fun. Mark Hayes (10:52.642) But they realized they couldn't compete without the black athletes. So they went and got a whole bunch of them. Now they're dangling hundreds of thousands and millions of dollars in front of them. And you know why? You know what drives the economy in Baton Rouge, Brock, know, six, seven Saturdays out of the year, right? Same thing in Starkville, right? Same thing in Oxford. Same thing in all these little towns. There's nothing in Tuscaloosa besides the University of Alabama. And it generates millions. And now that their basketball team is off the chain, right? You got more money being generated over and over and over again, year in and year out. And it's big, due to the black athlete. Now you can come here and play for, and I'll always revert to the sign that that... This African-American man held up during the George Floyd protests. I wish America loved me like they did when I played college football. Right? Because you're seen one way in one lens when you're an athlete balling for the school and you're seeing a totally different way when you walk into the same store as that individual without a football uniform on and without a very nice suit. Right? You become a suspect. in his eyes. And that's the problem. They're taking away the opportunities that we once had. My father went to college on the GI Bill. Right? That's how he paid for college through military service. Right now we're not wanted in the military and you're taking the money away from our HBCUs. Where's the opportunity? How do we climb? Brock Ganeles (12:43.564) Yeah, even earlier in the process, they're taking money away from the public schools, right? All these voucher programs and all this shit, right? It's like, we don't want integrated schools. It's like it's this de facto segregation is what we're moving back to. And the lead is to America, right? Where money drives everything. You know, it's always drove in most of things. But now, you know, this, you know, project 2025 is pushing that to the extreme, right? That's the America they're trying to build. Mark Hayes (12:47.724) Exactly. Exactly. Mark Hayes (12:55.852) Yep. Yep. Brock Ganeles (13:13.13) a less democratic America, right? They want a ruling elite that has most, if not all the money. And that's where all the tech bros come into play. That's why they've jumped on the MAGA bandwagon. Cause they have a vision of, you know, of in essence, you know, a monarchal type system where they're at the top of the heap, right? When they talk about having not believing in democracy, they don't Mark Hayes (13:35.275) Right. Brock Ganeles (13:39.608) They certainly don't think it's them that are going to get hurt by it, right? They see themselves as the ruling class. So they're like, wow, why does all these people get one person, one vote? You know, that's, that's not how you, you know, you know, maximize society. And that's like the methodology behind, behind all these thinking. And it's the methodology behind all these policies that are being put in place that are going to have to be unwound, right? All the way down to the CDC and RFK, right? Mark Hayes (13:43.652) Right. Mark Hayes (14:07.619) Right. Brock Ganeles (14:08.386) There's racism underneath all of it. He's like a eugenics guy and a master race and best genes and it's all white supremacy thinking put into play because who's going to get hurt the most by the policies? It's the people of color and people, you know, people of color and white people with no money. Mark Hayes (14:21.324) Yep. Yep. Mark Hayes (14:31.65) with no money, Rural, white America that's steady voting for Trump and his cronies, you know, that Tennessee seven district voted for Trump. Yeah. Yeah. And, know, and what are you going to get for your vote? You're going to get heartache and despair, you know, you, better figure out how to eat those votes because your snap benefits are going to go away. He's doing it again with the snap program. Brock Ganeles (14:40.94) I was gonna say they're still voting for her. Still voting for her. Mark Hayes (14:59.704) trying to figure out ways he can withhold benefits from democratic led states and cities. So, if we're not gonna stand up and fight back right now, not for ourselves, but for our generations, I look at my granddaughter, I got another one on the way, my grandsons, and I'm scared for the America that they have to grow up in, And you know what? I've never felt. As many warts as America has, I've never really, you know, considered it all that bad. Right? But man, you know, look how far we've turned the clock back. I always said, man, I don't know, I don't know if I could have made it back in, you know, in the forties and fifties. You know, my dad used to tell me stories about their college baseball team pulling up to restaurants and have to go around back to pick up the food. Brock Ganeles (15:57.666) Yeah, separate water fountains, right? Like, through segregation. Mark Hayes (15:59.341) Yeah, all that shit. You know, my mother told me she would never go back to South Carolina because of the way a white man treated her on the bus one day. And so, and she's never been back except to visit. And so, you know, you hear these stories and you're like, man, I can't imagine living, we're living in that right now. Just go on social media, right? And you can see people carrying on with this. You know, why in America so ang- what are they so angry about? Brock, please tell me! They got everything, y'all! Everything! Yeah. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (16:32.974) Too many brown people, too many brown people around them. That's what they're so angry about. They don't like that the company, the country is shifting. They're not in control of shit in the same way that quote they used to be or they used to, their fathers and grandfathers used to be. So they don't like the changes. So they're fighting back against them. This has all been a reaction to the demographic changes in America. mean, some people say it's a reaction to Obama, but I think it's bigger than that. I think it's more of a reaction to Mark Hayes (16:47.799) Right. Brock Ganeles (17:02.818) you know, not being a majority white American, not being in a majority anymore and the fear that comes with not running anymore. But getting back to your point of your, your, your, your your father and your mother's stories, they were allowed to be treated like shit with impunity because it was endorsed by the government. No one was going to come in and arrest them for harassment. Mark Hayes (17:08.396) Right. Mark Hayes (17:22.764) Yes. Right. Yep. Brock Ganeles (17:30.99) Right. They had no recourse. There's no lawsuit that they were going to be able to put forward. Right. Now, that's the way society worked and they had to get in line or it was going to get worse for them. Right. They'll get a beat down instead of just harassment. And that's sort of where we are because you got ICE agents running around giving people beat downs. Right. And it's government endorsed beat downs. And you got people, yeah, driving by Governor Walz's house and yelling shit at his young son that Mark Hayes (17:32.952) Right? Mark Hayes (17:36.865) Right? Mark Hayes (17:53.421) Yep. Mark Hayes (17:58.403) Yeah, I'll end. Brock Ganeles (18:00.706) you know, which is why hope is going ape shit. And with impunity, that's just allowed now, not even legally allowed, but accepted by a good chunk of society. Mark Hayes (18:12.492) And can you blame Hope Walls for having that kind of reaction for the way they're treating her brother? Her... Dude, you know, you can tell, like, remember when I told you it starts in the home? Remember when I said that? This is exactly what she has learned. And listening to the other clip that we listened to from her, talking about how rich she was because her family... finds joy in each other. That's what I'm telling you, man. It starts at home. Racism is taught. You put toddlers in a little playpen, they're going to play with each other. They don't care what color the other toddlers are. They're going to play with the toys. They might fight over their toy or two, but they're not going to hate each other. They don't start hating each other until they're taught to hate each other. They don't start hating each other. Brock Ganeles (19:06.936) But it meant... I mean, just think about what a massive piece of shit you have to be to drive by the home of someone with learning disabilities to heckle them. Like, what the fuck are you getting out of that? Like, what? I mean, that is what you feel the need to do to like, feel better in your society. I mean, can you, can you know... Mark Hayes (19:18.862) Right. Mark Hayes (19:22.285) Right. Mark Hayes (19:27.662) Right. Brock Ganeles (19:33.56) I always say, right, a society is judged by how it treats its, you know, its neediest members, right? And that's how MAGA treats needy members. And it's like, it's, it's a disgrace and it's why we're in a fight and it's why we can't play soft and why we can't play to norms and certain protocols. Unfortunately, you got to go down and, and wrestle it to the ground and then rebuild something better. But you can't, you know, we can't take the high road. Mark Hayes (19:38.21) Yep. Yep. Mark Hayes (20:03.52) At all. No. Brock Ganeles (20:03.726) We can't go high ever with this group. We're going to have to go low for years, probably next three years. Mark Hayes (20:09.39) No. And you know, I love Michelle Obama, but she was wrong when she said when they go low, we go high. What she should have said was when they go low, we go fuck that shit and fight back. Right? Because going high is not a language that they understand. Right? Speaking to them, you know, in education, Remember I talked about the value of education. What's Trump's famous quote? I love the poorly educated. Right? I mean, that's where it lives. that's, Brock, why do you think we have people showing up at pizza places shooting people? That's why we have these rabbit holes and people being, you know, radicalized online. Right? Because they're not searching for truth. They're searching for some sort of connection. Brock Ganeles (21:08.782) They're not searching for truth. We had a guy come on the chat board, I think it was just yesterday, seeing him being like, you you libtards getting all your information from the fake news media, you know, proved to me Donald Trump is racist. I'm like, well, just 24 hours ago, we called Somali garbage. Like I was like, my argument back to him was like, stop trying to convince yourself, pretend that Trump's not racist. Just acknowledge you don't care. Mark Hayes (21:23.63) Thank Right. Mark Hayes (21:36.738) You're right. Brock Ganeles (21:37.23) Like don't like, I could have given a laundry list. I didn't want to bother with the argument, right? Like, of course he's racist. He would admit he's racist in a private conversation. He think wasn't going to get out, but he got sued in the seventies for being racist. fucking guy has been racist for 79 years, right? He was taught to be racist by his Nazi kuklitz clan attending father. And that's who he is. Why argue he's not racist? Mark Hayes (21:42.35) Alright, waste your time. Bye. Yep. Mark Hayes (21:50.785) Hey! Mark Hayes (21:56.473) but it's in the family business. Brock Ganeles (22:06.092) Like that's not even, don't even put your energy there. Just say it doesn't matter to you. Mark Hayes (22:06.122) It's in the family DNA. Right? Right. Right. I'm sorry. It's not in the family DNA because Mary Trump is a normal human being with good sense and a good brain and a good heart. It's so sad that Mary Trump had to endure what she did from Donald and the way he was treated. Brock Ganeles (22:25.868) Yeah, but she's slightly in a different part of the tree. If you go down directly from Donald, you got a bunch of fucking yahoos. I mean, maybe Tiffany's not off the rails, but we will never know it. Mark Hayes (22:29.132) Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. But you know, it well, didn't he didn't didn't the dad called her pudgy or chubby or something? Not too long ago. So, yeah. Brock Ganeles (22:43.694) Yeah, he's she's not good. She's not good enough looking for him Mark Hayes (22:49.462) Yeah, yeah, he doesn't want to date that daughter. But yeah, you know, we've got to hit them where they live. But in terms of speaking of fighting back, got Mayor Mondani, Mayor-elect Mondani, who's giving out information and has recorded a video on how to thwart ICE. So we've got ICE confrontations and fighting back all over the country. LA, Chicago, New York. Louisiana, New Orleans, every place ICE is showing up, they're meeting resistance because it's wrong, it's unlawful. You know, they're grab at American citizens. It's a fucking joke. And you know, we need to put some people in prison when this regime is gone in 2028. Brock Ganeles (23:41.55) Yeah, I love that we're making their lives miserable and I respect the people that are out there. You know, I saw them with like bull horns and cowbells in Louisiana, you know, telling people not to open the door because they don't have to legally unless there's a warrant. And I love that Mondani is doing it. Let that leadership come from the top. And because New York's gearing up to push back the ICE raids, right? They embarrass the first big raid. Mark Hayes (23:45.417) Yeah. Mark Hayes (23:53.996) Yep. Mark Hayes (24:00.494) Right. Brock Ganeles (24:08.184) But that's not going to end this fight, right? It's going to be a lot of skirmishes on the streets. So, you know, I'm looking for New York to make a big, big showing. And I guarantee you that Trump will have a fair with Mondani is going to real fucking quick. I think I told you that two weeks ago that I didn't buy it for a heartbeat and I still don't buy it. And once Trump sees that fucking PSA he put out, he's going to blow a gasket. And when he sees New York fighting back against ICE, Mark Hayes (24:23.551) very quick. Yeah. Brock Ganeles (24:36.846) You know, it's going to be it's going to be game on, but. That's what we're to have to do. Mark Hayes (24:39.532) Right. And you when you think about ICE coming to New York, I mean, we have a part of New York that we've known all our lives as Spanish Harlem. We have a part of New York that we've known all our lives as Chinatown. We have a part in New York where our Hasidim lives, the Hasidic Jews. We have parts of New York that are dedicated to immigration. We have Ellis Island for God's sake. And you're going to defile and come in here and piss on our city because you're a hateful piece of garbage for politics, control and money. Because you suck as a businessman, you're gonna loot the federal government and go along with the racist loony tunes that are propping you up. Brock Ganeles (25:50.594) New York is most diverse and international city in America. mean, it's me, you know, arguably probably in the world. Yeah, in the world. I mean, it's a bad, you know. Mark Hayes (25:50.818) This is the end. Mark Hayes (25:55.107) Right. In the world. Right. Eight million stories. Brock Ganeles (26:05.076) I ice life could be made miserable and should be and I think New York's ready for the fight and I'm glad Mondani won because he's the person for the fight and he'll message it properly and he'll bring a youthful energy to those to those encounters and hopefully he's going to do what Minneapolis did which is remind the police also that they should Mark Hayes (26:08.162) Yes. Yes. Mark Hayes (26:25.634) Yes. Brock Ganeles (26:34.1) should and will not be cooperating and should be making arrests when they see unlawful ice activity. So, you know, that was the message in Minneapolis and that's where shit gets, you know, it gets contentious, but that's where it's going to have to go. Mark Hayes (26:50.348) Yep. well, you asked for it. Now you're going to get it. I'm surprised ICE agents haven't been shot and shot at. Nothing yet. But you know what? You keep barking up that tree and somebody's going to get pissed off. know, somebody's going to pull a gun out of their car. You see, they're not in Atlanta. Everybody in Atlanta has a gun. Brock Ganeles (26:59.852) Nothing yet. Yeah, been pretty good. Mark Hayes (27:17.91) Right? Everybody in Georgia is packing heat. You know, I heard they were down in an area of metro Atlanta where there's a huge Hispanic population, but I didn't hear about a whole lot of arrests. And I saw a bunch of protests out there at the same time. you know, I look again, you know, they want cheap labor and they also want to be racist as fuck. Like you can't have both. You can't have both. Brock Ganeles (27:49.742) Tough mix. It's a tough mix unless you can get a bunch of white people out there working for nothing. Mark Hayes (27:53.999) There you go. Yeah, and that's not gonna happen. No. You know, the white guy that I know wants benefits, he wants a pension, he wants a retirement plan, you know, and he wants a good salary. So, they ain't paying that, you know, to put tiles on roofs in 107 degrees. They're just not doing it, just not paying it. So, you know. Brock Ganeles (27:57.088) not going to happen. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Mark Hayes (28:22.574) You know, it used to piss me off, you know, when I'd ride around the neighborhood and see people getting new roofs put on the, you know, seven, eight guys on the roof, right? You know, one white guy standing there drinking a frosty cold beverage, right? Making all the money. $15,000 for a brand new roof. And, you know, he's paying out pennies to the help, you know, helping them do a roof a day, right? You know, they'll turn around a roof in a day, take it off in one day, put it on the next. Brock Ganeles (28:48.632) Mm-hmm. Mark Hayes (28:53.544) ridiculous. But yeah man, alright before we get out of here what do you got for me for a quick hit? Brock Ganeles (29:05.742) Even Kristen Collins fought back. University of Alabama Crimson Tide Kristen Collins. Even she pushed back because Trump called her stupid because she asked him some questions about what the fuck's going on with his ballroom and why it's over budget and behind schedule and the workers are quitting and the like. she went after him. She came back. So hopefully Mark Hayes (29:13.13) Oooooh! Mark Hayes (29:24.994) you like everything else he's built. Brock Ganeles (29:35.266) that becomes a model for the media not taking shit. Cause for the most part, these women in particular have gotten chewed out and insulted by Trump and no one's really backed them. And we haven't really seen them bite back maybe because it's not endorsed by their organizations and they get fired if they bite back and they're told to just, you know, keep quiet, suck it up that it's part of the job. Mark Hayes (29:42.904) you Mark Hayes (29:47.47) Sure. Mark Hayes (30:02.989) Right. Brock Ganeles (30:04.844) But Caitlin Collins, you know, decided it wasn't part of the job, at least for today. So I'm glad to see that. I hope that becomes a trend as well. Because, know, basically the mainstream media sucks for the most part. You know, we got a couple people worth watching, but for the most part, they've rolled over. Mark Hayes (30:15.554) Right? Mark Hayes (30:19.638) Right. Awful. Mark Hayes (30:26.732) Yep. and Jake Tapper came to her defense. How about that? He's still alive. He's not, you know, working on another Biden book. How about that? I didn't know where he was, but he came to Caitlin's defense, which was interesting. Brock Ganeles (30:39.438) He did, okay. I mean I don't really follow what Jake's doing much anymore. He kind of lost his credibility for me. I thought there was some hope in him, no, he's kind of lost me. Mark Hayes (30:44.128) Yeah, and it's not worth it. No doubt. Mark Hayes (30:55.21) Yeah, and how about the World Cup draw that features the leaders of Mexico, Canada and Trump? Claudia Scheinbaum and Mark Carney will have, I'm sure, plenty of quiet conversations without the Donald present. And when you look at the contrast of those three leaders in their first face-to-face meeting that they had, because the World Cup draw, had the meeting at the Kennedy Center Friday afternoon, and the three of them were there. So they had to talk to this clown face-to-face. I would imagine they have so many questions for this Looney Tune, right? Because what are we going to stop all ice activity when the World Cup starts? So you basically said, Hey, you folks that like to travel and follow your football teams, can't do it here. Go to the games that are happening in Canada and Mexico, but you can't come to America because you might get scooped up by ice, right? And end up in who knows where, Somalia? Brock Ganeles (32:12.854) I don't know how we're going to have tens of thousands, up to hundreds of of people from all over the world coming here for these games and have ice activity floating around. mean, it'd just be a shit show. mean, is going to have to, I mean, it'll, Trump will just decide what makes them look bad, right? And I think the crackdowns during the tournament would make them look bad. Mark Hayes (32:23.406) comfortably. Brock Ganeles (32:38.368) So my guess would be that there would be a little bit of a standing down of ICE, certainly in any city in which there's a game. I just think Trump would look like a chump on the world stage and he doesn't like that. So I think maybe there's a chance that we just don't make a total disaster out of the World Cup. But there's a chance we do. Mark Hayes (32:38.645) off Mark Hayes (33:03.608) Yeah. But anything's possible with Trump. And we're hosting games here in Atlanta, too. And I'm interested to see how that plays out. Remember, the Secretary of State here recorded Trump's phone call. That case is still pending. So he was not happy with the Secretary of State and the Deputy Secretary. He's not happy with Kemp. So, you know, our current governor. you know, who knows what could happen in the state of Georgia when these games come here. Brock Ganeles (33:41.91) Who knows six months from now Trump's going to be so gone mentally. mean, holy shit. He's not even going to remember. He's not going to remember that he, you even might not even remember to wear that fancy little necklace they gave him for being there, you know, peace, peace prize fee for peace prize. Mark Hayes (33:45.688) my god, anything's possible. Mark Hayes (33:51.2) And he's president. He may not even act. Mark Hayes (34:00.486) It's one of the great honors of my life. It was an award that didn't exist until now. Frickin' clown. All right, buddy, that's it for us today. Let's rack it up and do it again tomorrow. Brock Ganeles (34:07.662) They had to come up with it just for him. He's so grandiose. Brock Ganeles (34:18.05) Alright Mark always a pleasure I'll talk to you tomorrow. Mark Hayes (34:19.758) That's good. Peace. you