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S4 E12: Offensive Buffet · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Fifteen decrease.
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  Speaker 1: Tables and guitar.
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  Speaker 2: Would you wherese would you have to be?
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  Speaker 1: Saint to Ron Elvis in the ley Pancho the members
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  Speaker 1: that you need to know?
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  Speaker 2: I won't you out here now?
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  Speaker 1: Your family? Where's would you have be?
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  Speaker 2: Where else would you have be? Welcome into the Nicol
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  Speaker 2: City Crew. I am your host, Rob Crippen. Please like
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  Speaker 2: us for some of your Buffalo bills and NFL content
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  Speaker 2: again today and as always, these are my bills. Thoughts
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  Speaker 2: set out loud.
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  Speaker 1: It so ridiculous, thing was sick the show? I can
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  Speaker 1: let us.
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  Speaker 2: Where's would you want to be? All right, let's get
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  Speaker 2: straight to it. Really really excited for tonight's episode. A
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  Speaker 2: special episode tonight for me personally, because, uh, the gentleman
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  Speaker 2: that you see at the bottom of your screen is
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  Speaker 2: really one of my mentors and one of somebody I
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  Speaker 2: consider a friend now and somebody that really just gave
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  Speaker 2: me that final extra little push that I needed when
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  Speaker 2: I was getting ready to start Nicchol City Crew years back.
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  Speaker 2: Now it's crazy that it's been some years now years
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  Speaker 2: it has been a few years now. Man joining me
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  Speaker 2: tonight as always riding shotgun as we talk offense tonight,
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  Speaker 2: we talked defense last week, had a great time DT,
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  Speaker 2: and I let's talk about the offense because you know
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  Speaker 2: everybody wants to talk about that offense. Adam don't trup
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  Speaker 2: rupsicala at the crew DT. What's good? DT was good?
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  Speaker 1: Man, I'm about what's what's up? Nicol City. Welcome Jass,
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  Speaker 1: Nickel City. It's a it's ready to rock and roll
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  Speaker 1: baby offense. We we talked defense wins championships is the slogan.
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  Speaker 1: But I think you know we're on board. Offense lately
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  Speaker 1: has been winning championships. So we got a lot, a
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  Speaker 1: lot to get into tonight. Pumped up. It's almost here
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  Speaker 1: and you know I'm ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: But let's go. Let's talk about this offense tonight. Joining
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  Speaker 2: us tonight our special guest, uh a man that really
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  Speaker 2: needs no introduction, but I'm gonna give him one anyway.
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  Speaker 2: At Jay Spence M. King on Instagram, uh and Twitter.
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  Speaker 2: One of my good friends. I consider him, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: a good friend now and again he gave me that
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  Speaker 2: little final push when I was starting Nickel City Crew.
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  Speaker 2: I looked up to him, was really happy that he
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  Speaker 2: gave me his input in the beginning. And and here
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  Speaker 2: we are. Man, we had a nice episode some years back.
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  Speaker 2: King's Business. Check it out for those real crew lifers.
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  Speaker 2: But man, I mean, I'm happy to have you, Jake
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  Speaker 2: Spencer King, how at the crew? What's good? Man? What's good?
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  Speaker 1: Hey?
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  Speaker 3: Man, I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a minute.
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, it's preseason for me too, So I'm
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  Speaker 3: getting back into the swing of things. And man, I'm
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  Speaker 3: excited about I'm excited about the season. I'm excited about
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  Speaker 3: the direction of the team. I wasn't a month ago.
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  Speaker 3: So everybody listening, give me some grace and allow me
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  Speaker 3: to change, you know, as I see what this team
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  Speaker 3: is built of and the direction we're going in. But no, man, again,
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  Speaker 3: I just think, thank you for inviting me. Man, this
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  Speaker 3: is gonna be fun. Let's rocket, Let's do it, Let's
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  Speaker 3: rock it.
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  Speaker 2: And again shout out to all the people that are
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  Speaker 2: watching on all different platforms, Nicol City Group, Bill's Mafia.
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  Speaker 2: We appreciate you guys, over one thousand people last week,
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  Speaker 2: and again we are just so appreciative. I know DT
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  Speaker 2: and I can being locked up on that way. We
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  Speaker 2: just love the support. We appreciate the support, and let's
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  Speaker 2: rock now as we switch from defense to offense this week, Fellas,
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to get into a couple of things that
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  Speaker 2: have been on my mind. I know that this Everybody
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  Speaker 2: Eats thing has kind of been gnawing at me, and
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  Speaker 2: that's the reason that I named the episode that I
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  Speaker 2: waited that I did. But before we get to Everybody Eats,
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about the actual architect of that moniker that
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  Speaker 2: has kind of taken over this offseason, and that is
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  Speaker 2: new offensive coordinator Joe Brady. Now for Bill's BOFFI. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he came in last year about halfway through after the
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  Speaker 2: Bills were six and six, when Ken Dorsey was fired,
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  Speaker 2: and we described it Jay Spence. We described it basically
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  Speaker 2: as it was almost a situation where he was kind
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  Speaker 2: of just performing surgery and he was he's working with
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  Speaker 2: somebody else's utensils, so he's just trying to stop the bleeding.
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  Speaker 2: So the Bills did run a ball a lot, But
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  Speaker 2: I was wondering what you thought about it, because I've
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  Speaker 2: already posited this the DT before. But who is Joe Brady?
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  Speaker 2: Because I know that we've seen him back at LSU
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  Speaker 2: and then we saw him. I saw him down here
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  Speaker 2: close up in Charlotte with the Carolina Panthers, and he,
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  Speaker 2: you know, apparently got fired because you know, Matt Rules
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  Speaker 2: said that he wanted to throw the ball too much.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously we saw that LSU team that was one
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  Speaker 2: of the best in college football history of airing it
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  Speaker 2: out with Burrow and Chase and and and all those
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  Speaker 2: guys down there. So what who is Joe Brady? Because
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  Speaker 2: to me that I don't know really much about this
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  Speaker 2: guy in respects to what he wants for the Buffalo
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  Speaker 2: Bills offense. Because again, last year he was running Ken
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  Speaker 2: Dorsey Skien. Should we expect a heavy run approach. Should
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  Speaker 2: we expect that all over again like he did in
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  Speaker 2: the second half of last year. He's got a full
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  Speaker 2: off season, and I'm just interested because I just feel
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  Speaker 2: like I don't know him, man, I really do. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what to expect Well.
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  Speaker 3: The way I see it, when you look at it,
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  Speaker 3: I think the first question you asked me, who is
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  Speaker 3: Joe Brady, I'll tell you Joe Brady is a quarterback's
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  Speaker 3: best friend. Like that's who he is. For several reasons.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to protect Josh Allen from himself. He's going
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  Speaker 3: to put Josh Allen in a position to be the
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  Speaker 3: best verson. I know we say this now with Bill's
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  Speaker 3: content all the time, but when it comes to this
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  Speaker 3: case with this offensive coordinator, with this quarterback, it's the truth.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to allow Josh Allen to do the things
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  Speaker 3: that he's good at, while kind of I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to say handcuffing him, but he's going to kind of
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  Speaker 3: place some restraints on the things that we don't want
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  Speaker 3: him to get too crazy with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And when you look at the past and you
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  Speaker 3: look at teams that he's either had this role or
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  Speaker 3: a similar role, we go back to Cam Newton's best
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  Speaker 3: season of his career, his MVP year.
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  Speaker 2: That was the Joe Brady.
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  Speaker 3: You know that that offense that you saw, that version
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  Speaker 3: of Cam Newton, that was Joe Brady. Now, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that exact same offense when I think we're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be Obviously everybody's talking about how like we have like
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  Speaker 3: this you named it offensive buffet and we have like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a room full of wide receiver twos and
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff. I think while all of that is true,
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  Speaker 3: I think we're looking at it and I think we're
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  Speaker 3: actually looking at this from a perspective where we're undervaluing
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  Speaker 3: what's going to happen. I think this is gonna be
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  Speaker 3: one of the most offensive fun seasons as a fan
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  Speaker 3: that you're gonna be able to, you know, say wow,
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  Speaker 3: just as a Bills fan.
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  Speaker 2: I believe I did not expect you to come and
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  Speaker 2: hit me with that, because d T, you already know
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  Speaker 2: where I stand. And when it comes to Joe Brady DT,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like I said, he was with you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's like going into somebody else's kitchen and it just
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  Speaker 2: you're just kind of thrown off, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I can cook you the same meal, but I'm just
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  Speaker 2: a little bit thrown off. DT. I'm not really used
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  Speaker 2: to your kitchen and I'm not used to your your tensils.
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  Speaker 2: And I kind of gave Joe Brady the pass for
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  Speaker 2: last year when it comes to how much he was
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  Speaker 2: running the ball. I think the Bills were like top
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  Speaker 2: two run heaviest teams in the league when he took over,
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  Speaker 2: you know, calling the plays down the stretch, and I
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  Speaker 2: just said, Okay, he's running Kendorsey scheme. He's got a
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  Speaker 2: full off season. It's going to be different. I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to see Josh Allen handcuffed. I definitely want to
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  Speaker 2: see him, you know, run when he needs to run.
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  Speaker 2: I want him to be smart about a DT. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm worried that maybe it's like a situation where this
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  Speaker 2: guy thinks that leaning on Jimbo and leaning on that
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  Speaker 2: run game is is overly important. And I understand that
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  Speaker 2: it's important and it has its place, especially late in
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  Speaker 2: the year, but DT, I'm I'm concerned just because I
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  Speaker 2: just don't know him, and I'm just I'm still searching,
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  Speaker 2: basically for the answers, because I don't think last year
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  Speaker 2: gave us all the answers.
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  Speaker 1: We spoke a little bit about this, you know, this
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  Speaker 1: spring of you know was the running game, and the
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  Speaker 1: kind of the the mindset of last year was that
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  Speaker 1: the actual offense of Joe Brady was the emergency surgery,
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  Speaker 1: right we're breeding out on the table let. Whatever we
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  Speaker 1: have to do to keep us alive, keep us moving forward.
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  Speaker 1: And he did that and was successful with that. As
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  Speaker 1: Jasmons mentioned just earlier, he was he was kicked out
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  Speaker 1: of Carolina because he wanted to pass too much, right,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, and then and going back to the
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  Speaker 1: recent history of him at LSU with a high powered
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  Speaker 1: offense and Joe Burrow, you know, they were very pass
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  Speaker 1: happy as well. So I don't think in his core
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  Speaker 1: he's looking to run more or more than pass or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. When you have one seven, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a pass first offense. That's just how it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be, no matter what type offensive coordinator you are.
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  Speaker 1: But I think the truth is, you know, he is unproven, right,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he LSU team with studs in the collegiate level.
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  Speaker 1: Then you go to Carolina where you really didn't have
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  Speaker 1: a roster and you know, kind of a college coach
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  Speaker 1: and a college mentality coach, and you know, coming up
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't work in the NFL. We see the
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  Speaker 1: time and time again. So now you're here, you have
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to actually have a decent you know, at
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  Speaker 1: least quarterback one under you. When a franchise player who's
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  Speaker 1: eight seven years into his career, like he's going to
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  Speaker 1: help you just as much as you're helping him.
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  Speaker 2: Right, he's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Doesn't have to do as much. Joe Brady doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to do as much as the offensive coordinator like Dable
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  Speaker 1: did back in you know, the twenty nineteen season when
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  Speaker 1: we were running all over everybody and he kind of
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  Speaker 1: drew everything up and it was just Josh, show it here,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be open. Now Josh knows what's going to be open,
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  Speaker 1: and Brady can kind of they can work together, So
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  Speaker 1: it takes a little more pressure off Joe Brady. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not scared that he's going to be a conservative
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  Speaker 1: coach by any means he's going to use one to
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  Speaker 1: seven as a weapon, which I mean, you'd be.
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  Speaker 2: Dumb not to, right, Yeah, I guess I guess that's right.
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  Speaker 2: I guess that's true. I'll concede on that. As we transitioned,
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  Speaker 2: Jake King, I have to get I just I have
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  Speaker 2: to get this off my chest, and I have you
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  Speaker 2: already alluded to it a little bit, but I had
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  Speaker 2: to get this off my chest, and I want your perspective,
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  Speaker 2: because I appreciate your your points, and you've heard me
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  Speaker 2: on some Twitter battles with those guys that do those
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  Speaker 2: live audios and just me just going at it with
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  Speaker 2: cats Man, and then Twitter's been one of my favorite places.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought I would say that, but Twitter has been.
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  Speaker 2: I just love a good argument, love, I love to
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  Speaker 2: battle man. This everybody eats thing, man, I swear to
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  Speaker 2: God that I promise you it. Sometimes it sounds to
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  Speaker 2: me like coping, and I can explain what I mean
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  Speaker 2: by that. A lot of times. What happens is that
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  Speaker 2: when when situations change and they're not really favorable, what
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  Speaker 2: one of our own mechanisms is a human thing, it's
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  Speaker 2: not even just a sports thing. Is that we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna cope with it, and we're gonna find ways
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  Speaker 2: to be okay with it. When fourteen left, I thought
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  Speaker 2: that what I hear with Joe Brady coming out with
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  Speaker 2: this everybody eats thing is like that sounds like some
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  Speaker 2: shit that a team that doesn't have good offensive weapon says.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, that's how it That's how it
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  Speaker 2: comes across to me. Now, I know that everybody wants
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  Speaker 2: to hold up the Green Bay Packers as an example.
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  Speaker 2: I read a great article some weeks back on that
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  Speaker 2: exact topic. I know everybody wants to hold up the
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, which it just doesn't make any sense
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  Speaker 2: to me because they don't even want to be that way.
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  Speaker 2: They had a horrible offense last year and their defense
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  Speaker 2: carried them to that Super Bowl, So that really doesn't
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  Speaker 2: hold too much weight with me. When I see the
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  Speaker 2: wide receiver room, you already alluded to it, Jay Spence,
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  Speaker 2: I see I see a room of c's or B minuses,
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  Speaker 2: and then everybody wanting to convince me that this everybody
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  Speaker 2: eats approach is going to equate to a better wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver room than when it was with Digs and Sanders
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  Speaker 2: and Beasley and stuff like that. And I just I
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  Speaker 2: just have a hard time buying it, and I chalk
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  Speaker 2: me off the ledge. I guess, give me your perspective,
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  Speaker 2: because I don't buy it. I just don't buy this
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  Speaker 2: everybody eats things at all ways. It just sounds like
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  Speaker 2: like coping. It sounds like we don't have a wide
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  Speaker 2: receiver one, so we've got all these different weapons that
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  Speaker 2: maybe will equate to a wide receiver one, but they don't.
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  Speaker 2: So everybody eats as the moniker and I just, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, starting to get on my nerves until these
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  Speaker 2: games start. That's fair.
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  Speaker 3: There's one hundred percent fair to have that perspective, especially
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  Speaker 3: after going from you know, we've had now four seasons,
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  Speaker 3: you know, seeing Stefan Diggs play at a very high level,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean, So going from having an
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  Speaker 3: all Pro wide receiver to now you're questioning whether or
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  Speaker 3: not we even have a legitimate wide receiver one on
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  Speaker 3: a roster. And that's not a shot. I'm not taking
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  Speaker 3: a shot at Kean or anybody. But this is what
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  Speaker 3: the media, this is what the conversation is. There are
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  Speaker 3: legitimate questions as to who's the wide receiver one, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, so I understand where you're coming from. But
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  Speaker 3: I think the difference this time, I'm not at all
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  Speaker 3: like trying to defend what everybody's saying about to everybody
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  Speaker 3: each thing. What I think is, though, I think this
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  Speaker 3: is the first time as a Bills fan, you're finally
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  Speaker 3: going to see the Buffalo because we kind of caught
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  Speaker 3: up to modern football when Brian dave Ball was here, right,
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  Speaker 3: But now I feel like there's been a new wave
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  Speaker 3: of football that we've seen in Miami, We've seen it
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  Speaker 3: in San Francisco. We've seen kind of like a position
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  Speaker 3: list all offense, and I feel like everybody, each thing
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  Speaker 3: is really gonna be that versus it being everybody East.
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  Speaker 3: We gonna spread the ball around. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna look like a traditional spread the ball around type deal.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be very creative. I think you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna see Curtis Samuel is going to have the second
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  Speaker 3: most snat like handoffs on this team.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna run the ball more than.
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  Speaker 3: So that's my I don't know if it's a hot take,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm telling you, like the offense
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  Speaker 3: is going you're gonna see a couple of years back,
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  Speaker 3: Isaah McKenzie had like the little gadget trip play thing
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  Speaker 3: that they use him for. Curtis Samuel is gonna get
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  Speaker 3: a lot of that. But he's also I think I
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  Speaker 3: think we kind of underestimate him as a receiver because
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  Speaker 3: we haven't seen him play with an elite quarterback to
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  Speaker 3: this level. But Curtis Samuel was like that, it's just
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  Speaker 3: that he's been in situations washing you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: But but when you really look at his attributes and
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  Speaker 3: you look at him as a player, he's one of
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  Speaker 3: those ones like he's not he's not.
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  Speaker 1: He's not.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to take I said nobody, so I won't.
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  Speaker 2: But he's not, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But but he's somebody that you can do that Josh
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  Speaker 3: will depend on every week, like he's going to depend
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  Speaker 3: on him every week. So I just you know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: very like I said at the top of the show,
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  Speaker 3: I'm very excited about the direction of the offense. I'm
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  Speaker 3: more concerned about defense and Sean McDermott than I am
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  Speaker 3: at all about the offense. Like to me, the Office,
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  Speaker 3: James Cook is on the show that he's a top
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  Speaker 3: three running back of the season. You're gonna have Khalil
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  Speaker 3: Shaker kind of step up into a road that's going
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  Speaker 3: to it's gonna be reminiscent of like a Bobby Trees
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  Speaker 3: that Robert Woods row where he's like a great security
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  Speaker 3: blanket and he also he's short handed and he that's
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  Speaker 3: what we're gonna get out of Khalil, but a little
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  Speaker 3: bit more because I think he's a better receiver. So
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  Speaker 3: just overall, I just think, you know, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: look at it and it's like, we don't have a
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  Speaker 3: wide receiver one. So we as as a fan base
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  Speaker 3: be like, man, this but yo, it's gonna be nice.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be nice.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna look like the Warriors when they when it
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  Speaker 3: just was positionless.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna look like wow, wow, DT, you hear this,
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  Speaker 2: This is this is interesting DT, because I don't I
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: don't know where do you stand on it? Everybody eats
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: thing I always thought was sounded like a coping thing.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: But you know, Jay Spence lays out some good points
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: that I haven't really heard before. I do respect Curtis Samuel.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: I do respect Curtis Samuel, and I know that he's
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: played with some shitty quarterbacks. I think one of my
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: biggest I think.
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: One of my biggest keeping Punky Man.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: We keep it punking here, Nicolas City Crew DT one
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: of the biggest things. And I know that Jay Spence
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: has to bounce, so I want to get his opinion.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: But DT, one of the things that I was worried about.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: He already alluded to it. A lot of guys DT
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: are getting ready to step into a role that they
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: have never had. They are getting ready to carry weight
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: that they have never had to carry before. That that
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: goes from Samuel, that goes from Shakir, who we love
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: to talk about. We'll talk about the tight ends at
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: the end, but I mean, there's got a lot of
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: guys that are getting ready to step into a role
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: that they have not had to carry before. And that's
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: I think is one of the biggest things that worries me.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: When I see a bunch of guys that I would
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: classify as or B minuses, then I'm just like, you've
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: never done this before. Mccollins, you've never done this before.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: You're you're gonna have to step into a bigger role.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: DT There's more, of.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Course, but the way of the world is Jason said,
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the way of the world the positionless football. I don't
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: think it's everybody eats in the in the form of
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: everybody on this offense is gonna have equal share of
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: targets and runs n type. I think it's everybody eats opportunity.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: It's an opportunity to be a leader, to be the
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: one to be the guy who gets the most touches
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: on the offensive end. I think that's what everybody eats.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, equal opportunity offense, Okay, to get to the top.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: Like it's set up for somebody to lead. Somebody will
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: be the leader in touches, somebody will be the leader
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: in touchdowns. It has to be. I mean, so the
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: way I think it's it's moving in that direction of yes,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: everybody eats until somebody kind of falls into that one role.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is real glass half full mentality, right Rob.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: But yes, nobody's done it, but it's opportunity for someone
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: who hasn't done it to do it. And people that
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: never did it always stepped up and did it. You
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: know that Von Diggs never did it till he did it, right,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: So that's kind of the to get out of jail three.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: You knows, cliche answer, I can give you the that
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: like it's set up to kind of be trending that
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: way we talked about it in the offseason in the
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: world is the incremental uplifts of everybody on this offense.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: A lot of them very conservatively can take upswings and
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: then open the door for somebody to have a breakout
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: season be the one be the leader of that receiving corps.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Running back corps, whatever it is that creates the catalyst
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: to that offense. On the other side of it, you know,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: we look at the schedule and when you play stud
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: after stud after stud every week, other teams have prime receivers,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and the Chiefs wouldn't be going and getting prime receivers
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: if they didn't think it's important. So the very least
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: this does, this experiment, if you will, the very least
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: this experiment does, is if we get to the end
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: of the year and it is a we needed the
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: number one guy and it was a complete disaster and
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: we missed the playoffs or barely make it in a
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: while beet or whatever the case is, then we know
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: exactly what the answer is. I don't want that. That's
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: a horrible way behind it. But at the very least
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: we have our answer with what we need to do
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: moving forward with a ton of money next year. Hate
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: looking forward. It's win now for sure, but at the
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: very least we still have an answer at the end
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: of the year.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting what you got to king and what you
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: have to.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Well, I want to agree with what he said, but
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: I also want to add, you know, Okay, so one
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: of my favorite movies and now I'm gonna forget the
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: dog on name of it just because I want to
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: talk about it. But you know the basketball movie from
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: what was it now like? And they were in California,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: the high school team and then later no, no, it
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: was the high school team and they won States and
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: coach had a son on the team and he ended
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: up longs story short, the two leading scorers on the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: team didn't like the way he came and he came
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: in contracts and stuff, and we just wanted to change
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: the culture. The two leading scorers walked out and they
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: and he said, coach Carter, Coach Carter, coach car Man,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: those were our two leading scores. And he's like, well,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: that just means were gonna have two new leading scorers.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: So just to back up what my man here was saying,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: it's like that and you're missing Digs, you're missing Davis.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: Somebody is going to get that production. And the thing
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: is too. I also just kind of want to reiterate.
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I know we're talking about the wide receiver room being
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: full of like be's and c's. No, No, I'm not
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not just well I'm not with you. I'm actually
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I will back you on that like I will I
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: will say that we have an underwhelming group of receivers.
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: When you look at the collection of talent around the division.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I think Miami's wide receiver room is insanely talented. I
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: think the Jets eat and they just got Mike Williams
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: off of you. So it's like the very man like
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: they have a very Both teams have very talented wide
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: receiver groups. You got the Patriots, who is looking to
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: try and get Brandon Ayuk he didn't want to come.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is like, when you look at that,
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: it's like wide receiver groups, it's just not there. But
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: kin Kid is technically our wide receiver one. So like
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: I don't want to forget, like like like we really
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: like that. So I just oh, he is looking at it.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: But it's like, so I just gotta want to remind
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: everybody listening. It's like, while we're talking about you know,
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: the Curtis Samuel's stepping into a row he has and
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: or here or whoever, you know, if Klaypoo somehow makes
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: this roster with the injury that he has right now,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: and Coleman, so whoever is in that role, I just
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: you know, Kinkaid is really that one, Like he's that guy.
• 20:25
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• 20:28
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• 21:03
  Speaker 2: it's funny you stole my notes. Jay Spence the King.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I mean it's funny because DT they talk about this
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: guy like he is the next coming. He is quickly
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: a fan favorite. I think that Honestly, I heard something
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: on WGR this week and have had to agree with
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: it that I think that his coming, along with the
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: fact that they've got this other kid in camp, that
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: maybe Dawson's Knox's days are numbered in the future, you
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: know what I mean, Because he's getting that big contract
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Dalton Kincaid, and it's right here on my notes. Is
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: he ready for his close up? Fellas? I'll leave it
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: with you DT, and then I want to get Jay
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Spence on it as well. But is this guy ready
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: for his close up? Because I feel there are so
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: many people like Jay Spence that he's really our number
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: one ride receiver. I think even Joe Brady last week
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: addresses the media actually called him a receiver. I mean,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: they've just got big plans for this guy, it seems like.
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: And I think that the spotlight's going to be right
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: on him. I don't think there's anywhere to hide. He's
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: going to get some targets for sure.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Well, that's it's got to be right. He's got to
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: be ready for it. If he's not, we're going to
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: know quick and it's going to be a parent his
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: health if he's not ready for it. But you know,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: where were the Bills and Josh Allen most successful offensively
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: back in a couple of years ago. It was across
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the middle. It was the cold Beasleys of the world.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: It was the you know, the those guaranteed pickups that
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: they he gave one seven confidence and let him cut
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: loose to the outside, to the boundaries, and then he
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: could hit over the middle and pick up those first
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: downs to move them down the field and not stall
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: drives what we saw. We want layups, right, we always
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: want these three layups, and Joe Brady creating these niche
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: kind of across the middle. Dalton k K. You know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: isn't just a crow route guy. He can run up
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the scene. He can beat your safety. So there's I
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: think that middle aspect of this offense is just something
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: that's not just comfortable to one seven, but something that
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: gets us out of stalling, gives us those layups we're
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: kind of looking for. So, yes, the opportunity will be
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: with him. He asked to answer the bell. We'll know
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: if he won't, but I think he's going to get
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of opportunity to do so with some easy
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: if you will looks. I mean, Travis Kels, he has
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: opened every single play they do. It's not that fast,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: you know, but he's not that fast, fast, and just a athletic.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: If Travis Kelskon can be opened every place, so can contained.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: And that's just confidence booster all the way around this offense.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Jay Spence. They talk about this cat like he's the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: second coming. They love him. I mean, he's he seems
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: to be a fan favorite already after one year and
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you know, some some pretty good production. I know he
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: was one of the most prolific tight ends in Bill's
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: tight end history. But what do you see for the
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: future of this guy. You've already alluded to it a
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: couple of times. He's a receiver. Joe Brady does the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: same thing and talks about him as he's the big slot.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's got to be ready for his close
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: up because I think that Josh is going to lee
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: on him big time this year.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: I mean I think he was. I think he had
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: his close up last year, you know, like if we're
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: honest about it, like like you even like just go
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: back to I mean, I'm looking at his game logs
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: right now. He had a game Cincinnati. He got eleven targets,
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: he caught ten catches, ten passes against Miami, had eight targets,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: seven receptions. You know in the in the laws to
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Kansas City and the playoffs, five targets, five receptions, Like
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: he's a short handed receiver. He Josh trusts him, he
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: depends on him. And one of the things that are
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: now when we go back to the everybody each thing,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Josh isn't gonna be trying to force feed a Stephan
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Diggs to keep them happy. So now you're going to
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: get these opportunities where Kincaid, you know, the other tight
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: ends of the room. Now, I know, I do want
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: to say, you know, you mentioned that there's some talk
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: about maybe uh Nax's time kind of coming to an
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: end here. I don't think that's the case.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I think the Buffalo Bills have.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Been trying for three years now to go heavy tight end,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: to have two, you know, and so I think what
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: they're gonna do is they want to have three, three
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: good tight ends on the roster, and I think they
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: will probably sacrifice one of the wide receiver spots for it.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: I think we're gonna see a heavy tight end team
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: versus a heavy wide receiver team, and because of Kincaid's
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: ability to kind of play receiver and but but no, man,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I think I think Kate is gonna be that guy
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: for for years, and he's gonna be the guy that
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: is breaking records with Josh so like the tight End
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: records for Buffalo and all this stuff. He's about to
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: go through the record books and just destroy Like you're gonna, like,
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: go and look at the record for Bill's tight Ends.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: I promise you he's gonna destroy it by like he'll
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: he'll he'll multiply that list, like all the numbers that
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: are on there together, he and Joshu multiply it. But hey,
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta run on out of here. I
• 25:27
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• 25:30
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• 25:34
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• 25:37
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• 25:40
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• 25:43
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• 25:45
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• 25:48
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• 25:49
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• 25:51
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• 25:52
  Speaker 2: So again, I just want to thank you man, I
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: love y'all.
• 25:55
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• 25:57
  Speaker 3: I don't have another unfortunate obligation. But I love y'all.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: Man, have a good show.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Thanks for stopping by.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: It's interesting, DT, because you know when I when I
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: think about it, you know, Ken Kaid is so he's
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: that polarizing. It's not even the right word. He's just so.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: He he seems to just get so much attention, and
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if if he's ready, That's what I
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: mean when I say if he's ready for his close up.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I know Jay Spence said he already had his close
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: up last year, but it was it was a moderate year,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: you know. We you know, we had to compare in
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: the Sam Report, and Sam Reporter won all the records
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: and stuff like that and and did all the tight
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: end stuff. But I feel like there's just there's just
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: gonna be so much more on his plate. I think
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: that that's the theme for me for tonight's episode, is
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: that with this Everybody's eats, there's just gonna be so
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: much more on his plate. There's gonna be he's gonna
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: be relied on even more next season, and he's got
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: to be He's got to be everything that you described,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: everything that Jay Spence described. He's gonna have to be
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: that for Josh Allen. I think they're going to need it.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I really do.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Nobody nobody else had the opportunity to get this type
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: of attention. Khalil Shakir, right, who else was going to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: get this attention to be the guy? Right? I mean
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: khalilsion here, that's true budding and growing, But there was
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: no other choice. True was eighty six, and so it's
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: just naturally eighty six and hopefully, you know, it's a
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: natural talk. We talked naturally and it's a perfect fairy
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: tale and he fits into it and he's the next
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: bigger and better Travis Kelsey, the gronks of the of
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the Brady era, the you know, all these tight ends
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: that that go down in history and on these Super
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Bowl running teams. So that's what we hope for that.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: And I think it's just not by choice. Well it
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: is by choice because there was no other choice. If
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have a choice, Hopefully he steps into that
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: role and you know, takes it takes it.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Takes, Yeah, it takes the buffalo by the horns for sure. Now,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: as we transition and move around the offense. Again. Shout
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: out to Jay Spence the King for joining us tonight.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: He had another engagement meeting, and we appreciate him spending
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: some time with us. But you know, it's interesting because
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I know that DT love Jimbo and you're one of
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: his biggest supporters. And then I heard Jay Spence just
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: you know, old Jimbo's gonna be a top three running back.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I know one thing that I do know about this
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: young man is that I keep hearing about this motherfucker
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: dropping the ball all the time. So what I need.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I heard Sal talk about it the other day, you
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: know on WGR when he was giving his camp update.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: I know that I keep hearing that he's having these
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: drop issues and fumbling and just ball control in general,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: whether he's running with it or whether he's trying to
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: catch it and secure it. Boy, I need him to
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: clean it up. And we talked about that earlier in
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the offseason, and it still seems to be a thing
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: as recently as of yesterday, you know, the second last
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: day of camp. DT man, like I don't we just
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: the margin for error when you lose fourteen and when
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: and when you condense everything, and when you grab and
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: you embrace us, everybody eats approach. Everybody's got to just
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: step their game up just a little bit more. Everybody's
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: got to do a little bit more. And that includes Jimbo.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: James Cook has got to stop with this dropping the ball, fumbling.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I think that it's something that can really bite them
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: in the ass. It really didn't bite us in the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: ass too much last year. Most of his drops came
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: when games were already winning and stuff like that, so
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: it was nothing that really hurt us truly. But I
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: think we've already talked about the margins are going to
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: be thinner this year. You can't. You can't have it, man,
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: I need this guy to get his ship together. I'm sorry, Well, Rob,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: this is deep, deep rooted. You know, this is deep rooted.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: In his first touch as an NFL player, he put
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the ball on the ground, uh you know, the first
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: play of the game against the Broncos this last year,
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: and when we go six, when we you know, are wheeling,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: he turns the ball over. They they had some big drop,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: had the big drop against Philadelphia in a game went
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: to overtime. That that touchdown by you know, secured us
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: the victory and might even put us in a situation.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: So did you say it kind of did hurt us
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: at that Broncos game. Even though it didn't the actual
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: it wasn't didn't come at the end of the game,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: it definitely messed with the whole mojo of that game
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: at home on Monday night against me. Yeah, exactly. So
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: it's deep, it's beet rooted, you know, it's something that
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: isn't just popping up. But that also means, like we
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: just talked about with Concave, that the spotlight is just
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: a lot more on. Yes, the margin of air is thinner.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: And last year the Chiefs come in on the road
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and play the Bills and the Ravens and have zero
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: pre snack penalties. You talk about details and game of inches,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and it really is a game of inches, and the
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Chiefs you know, have that culture and discipline to not
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: make mistakes down the stretch. And ball security is a
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: huge thing down the stretch. Josh Allen gets hit on
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: his turnovers all the time, except he goes to the
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: playoffs and he doesn't turn the ball over. James Cook
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: definitely has to tighten it up. The spotlight is on
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: him more so it's being noticed a lot more. But
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: if he noticed it, they're not just making it up.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: He is dropping the ball, he is bubbling, you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: So he is doing those things. And this is where
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: we meet John and Dermot kind of go back to
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: his old not so much bench to do for you know,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: ridiculous amount of quarters or anything like that, but the
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: presence of ball security and then kind of that old
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: school badass of Sean mctermott that we criticized him for,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: show him a little more of that. Get this dude
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: in check. That's why, you know, I'm not saying that
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: this is going to solve all problems, but I was
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: clamoring in the in the off season, bringing his brother
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Delvin for a few months and you know, force him
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to kind of what are you, you know so ship
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: like that's it going to pump him up, But you
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: know it's you got to come. You got to answer
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the bell. Like you said, the margin of mayor is
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: a lot slimmer. Everybody on this offense is going to
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: have to step up to fill the boys that are
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: gone and putting the ball on the ground and doing
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the same shit you've been doing for a couple of years. Yes,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you've been productive in other ways and increase your career,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: keep doing that, but now you've got to tighten it
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: up on the back end because it really is a
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: game of inches, rob the game of you know, a
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: fumble could literally lose this Super Bowl and deep into
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the season. So it's things that really matter. And and
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: when you're in a prime back and you want to
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: be considered a top back, the top backs in the
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: league don't do that. So, yeah, you have potential to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: be a top back. You have to talent to you're
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: putting up the yards to do it. But you fumble
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: the ball. You know, you have to complete your game
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: as a player, for your legacy, for everything. So I'm
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: not super worried about it. I think the lights on
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: him more. And so you're you're hearing stuff that might
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: not be an issue per se. It just he kind
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: of was you know, dropped it down the sideline. But
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: it wasn't pulls leader. You know, we don't know the context.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Right, that's true.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: At the same time, it's if you're being looked at
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: on it, and if you're still doing it people are
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: talking to you about it, you got to tighten that
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: shit up.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree. I mean I think Sale said
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: that one of them was Demorrow Hamlin poked it out
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: right at the goal line, so he's like, you know,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: it was debatable if it was already a touchdown or not,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: but why even leave it for chance? And I agree
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: with that because we saw how that works with plays
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: right there on the goal line. So and then another
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: one just you know, straight up just dropped it or
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: or just a fumble. So Basson care is going to
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: be important. I guess Ray Davis has had his issues
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: a few times as well with that, so I expect
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: to see him. I expect to see Todd Johnson when
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: he gets back for that running back room. It looks
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: like it'll be those three, to be honest, and maybe
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Frank gorg Junior can sneak in, but for now, Todd
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Johnson healthy, Todd Johnson when he gets back, along with
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Ray Davis the rookie, and and Ray is almost you know,
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: like a rolling bowling ball, you know, with knives sticking out.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: He's he's one of those types of backs. And even
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: though he's small, he's you know, he's thick, So I
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: expect some things out of him, and he can also
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: catch the ball out of the backfield when he does it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: So ball security, I think for sure, if we were
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: playing that word association game like we were last week,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: that would be it for the running back room.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: It goes all the way to the top. One to seven.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: You know has gotten a lot better with ball security,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: but you know he gets a little flimsy with it
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: sometimes and that's what team's key on him. Have film
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: on him. You know, four is getting to get that
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: ball because it's going to be out and about. So
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: ball security's got to start with one seven. Preach it
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: to these running backs, Preach it to your receivers. It's
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: got to be a team culture thing.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, it's got to be an offensive focus for sure.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Now as we transition before we get to one seven
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: to end the show, we've got to talk about DT's
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: favorite group to talk shit about, which I have no
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: idea why, because these guys really were remarkably consistent last
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: year and healthy and really that was really one of
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: the weirdest things. I think Dion Dolphins missed one play
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: when he cut his hand, and literally the entire offensive
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: line was healthy the entire season, all played together, which
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: is just unheard of. In today's NFL, really in any NFL,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: the offensive lineman and those defensive linemen are the guys
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: to go out first because of the fact that they're like,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: like you always say, DT, a car crashed every single play.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: So as we transition to this offensive line, the one
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: major change is really the only major change. Four out
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: of five starters will return for the Bill's offensive line
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: from left to right. Mitch Morris again, we talked about that.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: When he leaves and he goes down to Jacksonville on
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: that Red Tuesday or whatever day it was when Brandon
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: being fired, everybody, Connor McGovern slides over from left guard
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: to center DT, a job that he hasn't done since
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: his Penn State days. He even really get an opportunity
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: to do it in Dallas. I've heard some stuff out
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: of camp talking about, you know, you know how Josh
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: likes it. I guess he likes it, you know, snapped
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: almost to his left hand and then he can can
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: you know, get his laces right and go and let
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: that thing sling. He was they were having some some
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: back and forth and having some trouble with some bad
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: snaps and low snaps, different things like that. Obviously, everybody's
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: hoping that they get that under control. But I think
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: that that's one of the biggest things really when you
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: talk about the offensive line, because other than that, the
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: continuity is there. Aaron Kromer coming back with his scheme again,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: obvious they're gonna have to meld that with whatever Joe
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Brady is looking to do. But you know, Aaron Kromer,
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: his second stint here, he's proved that he's a great
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: offensive line coach. He knows how to coach those guys up.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: And now it's a situation where you're only changing out
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: one guy at left guard and then everybody else is
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: staying the same. You really would like to see that
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: kind of same type of production, that same type of consistency. Again,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: the health thing we knock on wood. No team ever
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: really just has all five starters play every single snap.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: But that's how it was for the Bills last year. DT.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're probably in the probability says we're not going
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: to have that again, right, So, but our depth, I
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: like our depth kind.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: All the way around, very good.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Invested in it, We drafted in it, we got free
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: agents in it. There's you know, in all five spots
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, with McGovern, we'll figure that out.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: With Josh. That's just gonna take reps comfortability, and that's
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: what that's that's what they're doing right now. That's what
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: they're probably taking hundreds of after practice to get right
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: so they don't have those you know, situations happening. And
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: when it comes to real game time, McGovern it's his
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: natural position played at Penn State, you know, so it's
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: not like he's never done it before. And I think
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: if it was a big issue, they'd be signing a
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: vet to come in, you know, during camp, you know,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: if it was an issue. I know they have severate
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: vampere granger from Georgia. He's not even running with the ones,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: you know, so or the two's excuse me. So if
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: it was, you know, a real concern with the team,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: somebody would be in there competing for that job. I
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: think it's just something that he's got. It just comfortability,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: getting used to Josh, getting used to where he wants it.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: The line as a whole, I am critical of them
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: because their job is so black and white, right Rob,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: If you protect the merchandise or you don't you protect
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the merchandise, or you don't you seventeen upright, or you
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: don't it's a it's a bitch, and people are in
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: his face all day and we can't get a good
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: flowing offense because of it. Or he's up, he's clean
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and he's throwing darts and killing the defense and losing
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: them aroule on the defensive side because we're picking them
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: apart all day. So the offensive line had their best
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: year together last year. Healthy is part of that, as
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you mentioned. Going into this year, I challenge them to
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: don't make don't have to other people have to be
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: good for you to be good, be good so others
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: can be good. It's your kind of turned down the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: steps in the role of the leader of this offense.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: The offensive line was looked good last year and was
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: good last year because once we've gotten that run scheme
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: later and we're able to move the ball, the defenses
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: were kind of all over the place and it wasn't
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: like a firm hand in the ground pass rush at
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: us every play like you can get. Once you get
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: cut a couple of times, the defense gets back on
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: their heels and it makes the offensive lines drab a
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: lot easier, you know, So if they come out and
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: set that. We always talked about tempo and setting the
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: trench tempo and everything like that, but this is a year.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: You had a confident building here last year. Go in
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: and start taking games over right out of the gate.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: You know, we come down, we're scoring on our first
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: couple of series because you're keeping Josh completely upright. And
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: if he stays upright and doesn't have to whip around,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: he's gonna find the open die. It's just inevitable. So
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I challenged him this year to kind of take that step,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: like you were good last year because the Josh kind
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: of helped you out and made you look good a
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: little bit. Now make him look good and stut the
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: tempo and come out in the beginning and put the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: defense back on your ears or stuff. Don't let Josh
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: have to do it, you know, to burn them.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny that you said that to end it,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: because you know, like offensive line is one of the
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: you know, the most thankless jobs on you know, in
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: an NFL locker room, won the NFL field. And it's
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: funny because you never noticed that they're fucking up until
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: you know, until they're fucking up, until your quarterbacks on
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: his back or like we saw the season come down
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: to that pass, the shakier you know, against Kansas City.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: We were right there in the stadium watching it, and
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, he gets rocked back Deon Dawkins,
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: who had his best year as a pro last year.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I thought he was an All Pro last year. So
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: it's it's funny how you know, you get the praise,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: but you know what I mean, it's it's almost a
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: thankless job because nobody really is talking about the offensive
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: line until they're not they're not doing their job. So
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: it's interesting that you ended it that way, because yeah,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: you're absolutely right. I mean, if they mess up, you
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: know everybody, everybody's gonna notice. So again, they had a
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: great year. Dion Dawkins for sure had his best year
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: as a pro in my opinion. Again, what a wonderful
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: you know. Just so it was just awesome to see Cybo.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, like I've never seen a rookie come in
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: and just fit right in from literally from training camp
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: all the way throughout the season. Didn't miss a snap
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: and it was completely healthy and even Spencer Brown on
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: the right side DT even played some good football. After
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: people were wondered about his back and wondered about if
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: he was going to be able to bounce back and
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: become the guy that the Bills drafted him to be
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: with all that potential coming out of a small school.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: He even played really well last year, so it was
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: all around good. I would like to make sure that
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: McGovern McGovern knows what he's doing. I know that you
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: said he played it in college. It's been a long time
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: since he's done it, so I just don't want any
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: snaps in the dirt and stuff like that. That's I think.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: I think it's critical.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Josh is playing Saturday. I think it's a big part
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: why Josh is playing Saturday. I said that earlier in
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: this week. Josh playing Saturday is a big part to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: do with McGovern getting game reps for Josh behind him.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. If you didn't hear it, Sean McDermott
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: today did in his press conference talk about the fact
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: that the Bills starters will play, so Josh Allen will
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: be out there. I think, what do you say, DT
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: about a quarter or so something like that, give or take.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: So Saturday night, Saturday, excuse me, afternoon one o'clock at
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: the Ralph Bills against the Bears. The Bears will come
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: to town. And it's funny because I just watched the
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: first Hard Knock episode last night about the Bears, and
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: then I'm sure that the next one next Tuesday will
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: have all the stuff with Buffalo in it. But they've
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: got their new shiny toy in Caleb Williams as the
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: number one quarterback. He'll make his NFL debut here at
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: the Ralph on Saturday DT. We have our own shiny toy,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: and as we wrap up tonight's episode, it's funny because
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: we have talked about everything around Josh Allen. We've talked
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: about out you know, fourteen at Nausea, and we talked
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: about the trade. We talked about you know, everybody eats
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: and and different things like that, and we've argued and
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: gone back and forth. And it's funny that it's all
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: coming into a head because it's something that you had
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: actually picked up on. And I give you credit. It's
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: been since like last year. You've been talking about the
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: fact that you wanted to see seventeen assume a different role.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: You wanted to see him take on a different role,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: and I'd be damned if I didn't find that article
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: that Terry Ogula himself excuse me, had been asking Josh
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Allen and telling listen, telling Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: To make sure that you are imparting on Josh Allen.
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: You know that he wants he wants to take more
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: of an executive approach, and I know that Tim Graham
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: had to go on Twitter and kind of clean up
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: what he said to make sure that everybody understood that
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: he wasn't calling out Josh Allen or anything like that,
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: but it was more of the fact that he wants
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: to see him separate himself, not be one of the guys,
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: but be the guy, Like don't yeah you love Dawson.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, you guys play cards, and yeah, everybody
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: hangs out and yeah, everybody goes to dinner and we
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: love all that type of stuff. And we love that
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: about you, Josh, but we also want you to be
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: above them, not in a negative connotation. And I think
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: that's why Tim Graham had to go on Twitter and
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: kind of clean it up because it's not in a
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: negative People took it as a negative connotation like he's
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: better than everybody else, but it is like he's better
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: it's it's just a different he's it's like working with
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: your manager that you're close with. You guys were close
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: together when you guys were in the same position. He
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: gets promoted the manager. You got to act like a manager.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: You can't just be the buddy buddy the entire time.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: You've got to be more executive. And I think that
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: that's what Terry mcgola is literally calling for. So I'll
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: give you props. DT. You called this shit like last year,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: so I'll give you props on that. Man.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I believe Josh Allen will go down as one of
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: the greatest quarterbacks of all time. I think you're with
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: me there on that route. You look back in the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: past of all the greatest quarterbacks of all time, and
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: they all have that similar trait, that similar attribute. They
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: are the alpha. They are everything that franchise is. They
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: are the lead dog. That doesn't say they can't get
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: along with their teammates. But like you said, the pecking
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: order is clear. One seven is the top. Everything else
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: is under and and that is you know everything everyone
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: agrees with it. That's the way it is. This year
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: coming in he you know, we kind of give the
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: opportunity all right, you're not a kid anymore. One seven,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: you're not a kid anymore. We know you're an athletic
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: freak and you can make all these plays and you're
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: poised and this and that, but this is your team,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: this is your control. And what we talked about earlier
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: with Joe Brady kind of having a nice scrutch to
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: lean on. It's Josh Allen as the quarterback coming in
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and kind of running his own deal. Whatever he says,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: goes type thing, and you know there's gonna be a
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: learning curve for him with that. You know he's gonna
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: walk down the hall way he then he shouldn't have
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: went down He's gonna, but then he's also gonna walk
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: down the right hallways, you know, I think more than not.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: And that's what we have to lean on going in
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: with the opportunity to everybody needs mentality or picking somebody
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: you know who's gonna give you that juice, giving them confidence,
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Throwing it to one guy to get going because you
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: know he's he's gonna block for you better if he
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: gets a catch. And knowing these things about your you know,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: your your team and your offense, and that's what the
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: leaders and the Helphitts do. And that's what Tom Brady
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: bait Man, what Patrick Mahomes does, you know. So that's
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: what we have to get into and and and hang
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: our head on. And the opportunity is there. As we said,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: everyone has.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: Call and sometimes calling guys out, you know, like it.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Sometimes exactly that's kind of what you know. But if
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: you're not up to expectation, you need to hear about it.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: And and because it is, the the margin of error
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: is so slim anyway, and now it's more slim than
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: ever because there there's all those spots to fill in.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: But again we keep calling back to glass half fole, opportunity, opportunity,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: rob opportunity for Josh Allen to be that, And so
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: far it sounds like he is kind of me and
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: that they're saying one of the best, his best camps ever.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: They probably say that everything right, I'm not, I'm not,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: But the fact that he embraces it comes out. It's
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: not getting stale, it's not getting bored. He's not turned
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: into the Philip Rivers of the world, you know, the
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: the always going to be okay but never gonna get
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: over the hull type of type of vibs. You got
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: to be the outplay, you got to put it in
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and yeah, it's getting in somebody's assess it's got to
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: be and I think he has the comfort to do that.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: That was the biggest thing with Diggs. Could he yell
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: at him? Could he not?
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Right? So now there's no question there's not anybody on
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: this team that can give one seven attitude for for
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: getting their askering out of practice.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. I mean and sometimes I wonder,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: you know, I think back to Obama Monday, and I'm wondering, like,
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: is that is that is in his DNA? Is he?
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Is he not? You know, confrontational that type of thing
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: is Are we asking him to be somebody that he's not?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: That type of thing? But I think that when it
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: comes with quarterback, there's just a different level of responsibility
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: that comes with that position. It's just different. There's really
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: no way around it. So I understood what what what
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Goola was looking for. You know, I didn't need Tim
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Grammer to clean it up, he goes. I understood exactly
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: what he was talking about was that it is cool
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: to be close and it is cool to have guys
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: over your house. Jim Kelly head guys had fucking parties.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: I mean every every week he had a party in
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: his house, and that all the bills, you know, players
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: went to, especially on the offense. So I understand that
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: you could be one of the guys, but there has
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: to be a level of separation. There has to be
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: some type of line of delineation, like like, hey man,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: he's up here, this is that's Josh fucking Allen, like
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then and then it,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: like you just said, everything kind of flows down from there,
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: and I need him to embrace it, even if it
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: may be uncomfortable for him to do, because this is
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: really his show. This is one of the biggest things
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: that we'll talk about, and we are going to get
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: ready to have an episode about Josh now that we're
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: getting ready to wrap up and head into the regular season.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: But one of the biggest things that I'm looking for
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: him maturity wise is just I not it's not just
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: necessarily yelling at guys. That I understand, and you know,
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: everybody talks about Peyton, Manning and Brady and getting people's asses.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: I understand how that works. But more like correcting things
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: to get them perfect, like be a perfection you know, seeker,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: and I know that there's not going to be a
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: perfect game. I understand, you know. Perfection in the park
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: was the closest thing we'll ever have to it for
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Bill's Mafia. But but you should always be trying to
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: obtain it. So it's not necessarily yelling at guys. But
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: it might be just hey, man, you ran this route
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: and you did a seven yard stem. I need you,
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, to get to five yards
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: or I need you to get to this depth. You
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: know what I mean? And shake or did? The case
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: may be like pointing out things that he needs. You know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: what do they say about Rogers is that he's maniacal
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: out there a Jets camp about getting things right, and
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: he'll get in Garrett Wilson's ass or get anybody's ass.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: That's that's messing up in practice because he wants it
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: to be perfect and he knows that his time is
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: running out. I don't know if Josh feels like his
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: time is running out, but I do want him to
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: kind of assume that role dt of just listen, man,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: I need it to be as close to perfect that
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: you can make it and and and demand it. And
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: that's my only thing is is Josh Okay demanding that
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: type of thing? Is that his personality? And I guess,
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: Mama money, he'll be able to tell us better. But
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know if he's comfortable doing it. But he's
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: got it. He's just got to do it. He does.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Practice doesn't make perfect rob perfect. Practice makes perfect right.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: And so that's that's what it's got to get to.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: It's got to be the leadership roll of no mistakes,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: like no mistakes. It's we can't do it. We keep
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: going back to this. We're there, We're in the game
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: against the best team with chances to win, and the
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: difference is a mistake here, a mistake there, a hitch year,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: an inch there. We can't have it. It's the NFL,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: it's the big leagues. It don't get bigger, rob, It's
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: what we pay thousands every year. It doesn't get bigger
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: than this. It doesn't get bigger than this. So the
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: details have to be you know, touched on, and as
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: the alpha and the leader of the team, you have
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: to do that. Again, this isn't a knock at stuff
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: on things by any means. Or you know, anything like that.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: But the fact of like that was a question, you know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: going into who was doing that until now now we
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: know who's doing it, and we'll know we talk about answers,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: black and white answers here will know if he's not
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: doing it, you know, we'll know if Dalton Kinka isn't
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: stepping up to the hike. We'll know if James Cook
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: still has a fumbling problem. We'll know if we need
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: a number one receiver. We'll know if Josh Allen isn't
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: stepping into the alpha role.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: So it's it's gonna be a lot of a lot
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: of no shield no high places.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no way to high.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: At the very least, we'll see success or we'll have
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: answers of how to get success.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, I agree with you on that one. As we
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: wrap up tonight, you know, it's it's interesting because you
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: know the offense. I'm I'm you know, I'm I'm just
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I'm patiently waiting and I'm going to be watching obviously
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: like everybody else, and I'm just I'm nervous about some
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: of the decisions that they made. I know that Jay
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Spence earlier in the show had talked about you know
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: how he's very excited about the offense. He's very excited
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: about what's to come. And I have to leave room
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: for that because I don't know what's going to happen.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: So otherwise I'd played the lotto last week and I'd be,
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: you know, to being a millionaire. Like, I don't know
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: what the future, so I don't know what's going to happen. However,
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: I'm watching with just a close eye. You know, we
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: talked about the defense last week. Unlike Jay Spence, we
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: are not really too concerned about the defense. As long
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: as everybody can stay healthy. We think that Scheau mcgdermam
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: will be able to do his thing, and obviously Bobby
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Babbage will take his first crack at call and plays.
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: But outside of it that, like I mean, Josh Allen
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: seems to be the one thing that holds everything together.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: He is the glue and I understand that. So because
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: of that, they've kind of pushed in all their chips
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: on this whole moniker of he is going to elevate.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: He's going to be the elevator. We talked about that.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Oh you know, I remember us being on the k
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: Gun report. They're talking about the elevator, like, listen, that's fine,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: it sounds great, and I would just love to see it,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: you know, come to pass and come to fruition because
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: of the fact that it's it's sometimes it's tough. Even
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: the best guys need their weapons, even the best guys need,
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: you know, their security blankets and stuff like that. Now
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: you've already talked about it. Jay Spence talked about Dalton
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: k Gade. He'll probably be some of that. You guys
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: have also talked about the fact that somebody's going to
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: step into that role. So I understand where everybody's coming
• 50:44
  Speaker 2: from them that I just want. I want it to
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: be a situation where the offense is not struggling. What
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: was it like last year watching Dorsey? Everything was was
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: hard and we talked about layup lines and we talked
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: about all those different things, and I'm lamenting and wishing
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: for Dable to come back like all the I don't
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: want that. So that's why I started the show the
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: way that I did, because I don't know Joe Brady
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: and I and I and I'm still wondering. So I'm
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: going to be watching really really closely because of the
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: fact that this is his show. It's obviously Josh Allen
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: driving the car, but Joe Brady can do a lot
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: to help out Josh Allen. And that's what the offensive
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: coordinator is supposed to do. Tt They are supposed to
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: draw up things, you know, that make things easier for
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: the quarterback, those layups, those those plays and those designs.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: What makes Mike McDaniel so good down there in Miami
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: is that he is a wizard with these play calls.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: What makes Andy Reid so good. He makes Patrick Mahomes
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: his life easier, even though Patrick Mahomes doesn't need it
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: easier life, but he makes it easier with some of
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: his schemes. So if we've got a great offensive coordinator
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: that can make life easier for Josh, I think it
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: goes a long way. As we conclude tonight, I think
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: it goes a long way.
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my final thoughts here, I mean tonight, we've come
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: up with a lot of solutions. If you will right,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: you're in a way we're kind of presenting a problem
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: of right, the offense has lost a lot of key players.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: What's the answer to it? And we've come up with
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: some solutions, right or wrong. We've come up with solutions tonight.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: You know, whether it be Joe Brady kind of getting
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: into the mode of his first season with a good quarterback,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: whether it's Josh Allen taking over the alpha role, whether
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: it's you know, Kincaid stepping up for Curtis Samuel getting
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: more touches, and James Cook living up to a top
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: running back in the league. The line kind of taking
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: that step of being dominant, you know, having another strong year.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: So we've come up with all these solutions, and you
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: know what, we haven't said the word Keon Coleman, Rob.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: So this is a this is a very positive point.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: This is the point in my eyes, because we are
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: we are through solution you know, five, six, seven, and
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: eight before we're even talking about what we hope to
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: be a superstar wide receiver for us in the future
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: of this franchise. Keon Coleman.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: So we talked about there's too.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: Much pressure on one person, there's too much pressure on
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: this but we're we're down to the superstar guy, that's
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: the rookie, and we haven't put any pressure on him
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: in this episode, right and come up with a lot
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: of solutions of how this offense can be successful. You know,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: even if he is kind of just middle of the
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: row rookie, we can still be successful with it. So
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I think that's a very positive point with you know,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: gr and everything else is all they talked about is
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: ke On Coleman. We didn't get there our show and
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: a ton of solutions for with how this offense can
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: still be good. So that gives me confidence.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Wrong, Oh yeah, that's interesting. That's a good point, you
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: know what I mean. I didn't even think of it
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: that way because I don't want to put too much pressure.
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: It's funny. I listened literally listened to Jereby White this
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: morning on g I. He was like, I don't I'm
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: not expecting too much from Keon Coleman because it's hard
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: for rookie receivers and stuff like that. So I'm the
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: same way. I don't want to put more on his
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: plate right now. I just want him to get the
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: plays down, get the offense down, get that chemistry with
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen. You're absolutely right, that's that's a good point.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: You know, there are ways for it to work, and
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I'm not and I'm definitely not trying to be a
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Wie downer saying that. It's you know, like I said,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know the future, so I would never say
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: that it's not going to work. I just know that
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: it's going to It's going to take everybody raising their level.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: And I think that that's the best way to summarize
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: it as we close tonight, is that everybody's got to
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: step up. Now, everybody's got to do a little bit more.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Everybody's gonna have a little bit more on their plate.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: If you got your fork, everybody eats. So I I'm okay, okay,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: by the end of this. It took an entires show,
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: but okay, I'll sit back. I have my plate, I'm
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: at the buffet, and I'll just figure out what I
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: want and I'll put it on my plate. If I
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: don't like it, it's okay, because that's how that's what
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: makes Buffey's great. I can just put the plate to
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: the side and go get another one to try again.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: So that's nice.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: With the Nickel City crew, everybody.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. I love it. Listen.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody, Bill Sbaffia and Nickel City crew
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: checking out the episode tonight. Over six hundred people watching
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: tonight DT again, we really appreciate you guys. We're back
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: on our regular schedule program on Thursday nights. We like
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: those Thursday nights and and really we are just we're
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: just so excited for this season. I know that DT
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: had talked about Quinn City Vintage and we're gonna be
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: doing some new things coming out with some giveaways and
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: different things like that for this twenty four Buffalo Bill season.
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: So we're really excited to be with you guys. Really
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: appreciate your support. I know DT had told me a
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: cool story from last week that a friend of his
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: sister brother in law like mentioned that they listened to
• 55:07
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• 55:10
  Speaker 2: cool for DT to hear, and like, I love hearing
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: stories like that because that means that the crew is growing.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: That means that people enjoy our content. And we really
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: do appreciate you guys being a part of it because really, honestly,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: it would be pretty you'll be pretty boring if you
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: weren't a part of it. So we we do appreciate
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: you guys joining in with us as well. DT. I mean,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: preseason is getting ready to start. They're leaving Saint John
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: Fisher today. I mean, it's it's it's inching closer, brother,
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: Like it's it's getting closer. I mean before you know,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: before you blink, it's gonna be home over and I'll
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: be right there with you. Man.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nice little, nice little deal here with the Summer Olympics.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I can't you know, there every four years,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: so you can't really remember four years ago, Like was
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I this into it? You know four years ago? But
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I'm into these Olympics, Robert, don't tell. Don't tell the
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: employer about you know a lot of street time, you know,
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: checking out all the events as they're going all day.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: But you know, so that's kind of gearing up and
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: giving you that athletic you know, you know, competitive spirit back.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: And then Saturday, Caleb Williams coming into town, probably gonna
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: play Josh Allen playing Kids Day a good one to
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: get out there to the stadium and you know, kind
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: of see these boys get loose and see what's in
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: store for this season coming up. And then you blink
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: a couple of preseason games, college balls right there, Labor Day,
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: all your fantasy drafts are teeing up, and then we're
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: into it. Maybe, so yeah, I can't wait. It's it's
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: you know, basically the second Christmas Day is this September eighth,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: when we're when we're gonna get that lot, you know,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: together the co City crew getting ready for the openers.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: So it's gonna it's it's a month away, a month.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: From the day. I know. It's wild, it's wild, it's wild. Yeah,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love it. You're absolutely right, second Christmas.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: I like that, you know what I mean, I'm gonna
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: steal that for sure, because then it is it's a
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: bill I always call it a Bill's Holiday, Mafia hollow Day.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: And it absolutely is like a second Christmas for sure.
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: So we can't wait for it. And and DT's right,
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: it's only a month away. We will be all together
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: at the Ralph or wherever you consume your Buffalo bills
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: across the world. And and I know that I can't
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: wait for the twenty twenty four season. I've already took it,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: taken my pledge. Nickel City Crew already said I'm gonna
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: enjoy this year. I'm not looking ahead to the playoffs.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna kind of just take it in and
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: and and go for the ride. And I'm excited. I
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: am excited. I can get with Jay Spence, and I'm excited.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I just the offense. I don't know. I'm just a
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: little bit fucking worried with people Twitter and they're like, what, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: I agree with people on Twitter sometimes yes, yes, but
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: but DT again, he's always glass half full and I
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: can appreciate that because he helps me out a lot.
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: So we really appreciate you guys joining us tonight. Again
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: shout out to our special guest, Jay Spence the King.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: He had to dip out a little early, but we
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: do appreciate him stopping by in the beginning of the show.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: Again we talked. We covered defense last week, we covered
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: offense this week. Next week we'll dive into seventeen. No,
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: I already know the guest that's coming. There's no better
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: person to have one here. DT already knows whom getting
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: ready say. I'm not gonna give it away, but there's
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: no better person to have on here to talk about
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: some seventeen than Jaya seventeen m VP. That's your only
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: clue that you get. But next week, we can't wait.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: We'll see you guys next Thursday. Listen, spread love out there,
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: not hate. These are my bills S thoughts, set out
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: loud to hit them with the Gold Bills DT and.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: Hey one and on this weekend, one and all.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I love preseason one and though but I wit you, Man,
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I wit you, Rap, Josh Allen and bubble Wrap get
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: his ass off the field as soon as possible, along
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: with all the starters. Man quit playing Go Bills. I
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: love it.